>what if we made a game that would only be enjoyed by failed melee players and not literally anyone else?why did they think this was a good idea?
>"Play Rivals 2." - Plup
>>732605561im starting to think even he hates the game. he only plays it because he can farm the failed melee players with ease because theyre all failed melee players. yes, that includes cakeassault (see his melee results)
>>732605627It's probably nice to play a game where you can just better-player everyone to death without having to worry about getting zumped by a jew
>>732605875that definitely is a plus although im sure the melee community will 100% come together to ban z jump. every top player hates it aside from the actual z jumpers and theyre currently trying to come up with an actual ban appeal
Combo Devil mogs btw
>>732606527does it actually? you could be experiencing what i call the honeymoon phase with a new, upcoming game.
>>732605461They should have stuck to the mechanics of the first game even if many of them were the result of a happy accident because Dan didn't feel like animating the sprite work for techs and throws at the time.
>>732605928i haven't played melee beyond with friends casually in like five years, what the fuck is z-jumping
>>732606758its when you use a mod that allows you to remap buttons. some are remapping jump to Z because it gives a huge advantage to anyone using it, especially fox players
>>732605461Better than melee
>>732606815Using Z to jump sounds kind of awkward to me, and I use right triggers in a few other games as a jump button. The one thing I can see being advantageous about it is being able jump out of shine without moving your thumb. Is there anything beyond that?
Does it have workshop support yet?
>>732607335In beta as of January 13th
>>732607441Oh sweet
>>732605461This game attracts the biggest seething retards I ever seen in a multiplayer game. It's a shame these morons became the loudest audience as the game bleeds players from lacking content.
>>732606527>>732606565>Melee game with stamina and wallsDo people want these things? Rushdown Revolt got shit on relentlessly for having stamina and being "sweaty".
>>732605461I boughted the first one because I was horny for the rat, barely played itBoughtedred the second one on release for the stupid rat, again. Never played it
>>732607782Rata chichona
>>732607782RoA1 is still better for casuals.
>>732606978I dont play fox so idk but according to top players it unlocks a lot of easy frame 1 aerials that changes how you have to play against fox players based on whether or not theyre using z jump and it ruins competitive integrity.
>>732605627>>732605875>>732605928>>732606815>>732606978>>732607514>>732608040Does anyone still play leverless on Melee? Theoretically, the best controller for Rivals of Aether 2 is keyboard.
>>732606947This, but meleefags aren't ready for that conversation
>>732608163They still can't accept there's better games than smelee.
>>732607782Why do all the female characters that aren’t Olympia look like guys?
>>732608538The only character I refuse to play fuck that tranny
>>732608538Absa and Fleet are feminine.
https://youtu.be/YOjBQP4evVo?si=GXpkvdfYQnwachpN
>>732608909How is Reina tranny coded?
>>732608136Box controllers are pretty popular in melee but they had to nerf them via firmware to prevent inputs that are physically impossible on a traditional gamecube controller. They're still really good but very few top players actually use them, and I don't believe anyone's ever won a supermajor with one. I think it's mainly a pride thing and tradition-based. Box players are kinda looked down on for the most part, and most of the top players have been using a gamecube controller for far longer than box controllers have been around so they're used to the gamecube controllers.
>>732606565Yes. Also, no CC/FH.>>732607602Nobody cared that RushRev had HP, it was disregarded for being associated with Icons. That and the lead dev made truly moronic business decisions.Of course, here on /v/ the only thing that matters is muh character designs so literally all platform fighters that aren't Nintendo or some licensed nostalgia shit is ignored
Besides Fox and Falco having an easier time with shine tech in Melee, what other benefit does having a leverless controller have? I guess for RoA2, it's less apparent because the roster is more balanced, and Zetterburn's shine is a 2-frame move. I still remember that Project M never really had notable Wiimote play and that counted as a leverless controller.
>>732609647Reply to this >>732609343
>>732608538I haven't even opened the second game yet, what the fuck am I seeing, who is the woman? The obese racoon? Or the roided bug?
>>732609712The roided bug is the woman, anon
>>732609738
>>732609519Let's see how the game matures. I hate the stage transformations in Pokemon Stadium because of the walls.
Is Rivals 2 still ruined by floorhug? Is Clairen still having the dumbest sweetspots in existence?
>>732609885Yes and yesThey fixed CPU performance, added GPU shader compilation, fixed dumb physics bugs and added peer-to-peer on lobby matches.
>>732609945I guess that's good for the game's longevity/preservation, but no point in preserving a game that feels awful to play
when is workshop leaving beta?
>>732610950Nobody knows
>>732605928>you WILL get handcramps and you will NOT remap buttons
>>732606947Melee doesn't have microtransactions
>>732609038Petty sure it's designed by a troon
>>732612327I believe it
>>732605461Ultimate>Slap City>Rivals II>Melee
>>732613993You have your greater than and less than symbols mixed up, chief.
>>732605627meleefags are just failed 64 players.
>>732605461Biggest mistake was using 3D character models. So now discordfags can't put their OC into the game as easily, Modding was like 70% of appeal of the first game.
>>732605461Still has a healthy player base and its not even on console. Whats the problem.
>>732608984Cute liggers. Too bad there's no Single player vs Bots mode or Adventure mode or some shit.
>>732612267anyone worried about ergonomics can use the b0xx. also its clear every top z jumper uses it because it gives an advantage, not because its more comfy on the hands.
>>732612327>he doesn't know about the Rivals of Aether 2 demo and custom mods for Melee7333427This is how every roa fan looks like. They're all fucking freaks who are too stupid to play the game with a controller.>inb4 muh custom characters and mods, don't care.It's still not gonna make you guys popular outside of your circlejerk7412515Melee has already been out for years. It isn't going anywhere.
>>732608937not with those shoulders and chests they aren't.
Snake and Moth when?
What would win, free to play mass shilled smash clone by multibillionaire company with Batman, Rick & Morty, Shaggy, and Bugs Bunny, or 30 dollar smash clone with generic furries?
>>732608538Fleet doesn't look like a guy, it's just that she's really thin.
>>732621425see >>732620801she does not have the body of a female at all
>>732621667She has a female design regardless, especially when you look at it outside of a static blender pose.To me at least it's very obvious that she's a female character.
>>732621846>female design>male chest, shoulders, arm length, etc
>>732624137Female eyes, expressions, silhouette, colors and general shape.If fleet were a male, then the character would be a faggy twinky male because there are inherent feminine qualities to the design.
>>732624354>silhouettewrong>general shapewrong. she just has a female face and is voiced by a female, that's literally it. every female character in this game is basically a man because they were designed by a gay furfag who was too afraid of women to model them as such aside from clairen. theyre all men, there is nothing female about their designs.
>>732624504I knew nothing about the game when I first played it and I could immediately see that Fleet was meant to be female.Also Olympia is pretty recognizably feminine too despite the muscles.
>>732608538This bitch is peak, unfortunately>Two thirds of entire moveset is command grabs, including aerials>Can do all command grabs on her own chair to turn them all into normal attacks with massive lingering hitboxes>Taunt poses are fast enough to weave between attacks
Chuds can't comprehend the existence of fictional flat women LMAO
>>732605461idk the idea sounds good on paper
>>732605461>>732627952There's no such thing as successful melee players.All active melee players are seen as broke ass sex pest apologists.
>>732628106???
>>732624820>I could immediately see that Fleet was meant to be femaleThen I guess that makes you a super special boy then, but ask anyone else and I can guarantee you they’ll say that’s a guy or a tranny
>>732624820Are you retarded?
>>732624820i know plenty of people that thought fleet was male when seeing her for the first time. if you like fleet despite her man body thats fine but normal people dont see stuff like that and think "oh this is clearly a girl"
>>732627903Which is weird cause this site literally loves lolis
>>732629150If it was Maypul I could see it. Maypul is the most androgynous and the most animal-like, on top of having an uncovered flat chest which is what typically says "this is a guy character".
>>732605461>>what if we made a game that would only be enjoyed by failed melee players and not literally anyone else?Holy fuck, you're STILL seething about this
>>732606565>does it actually?Has anyone ITT even been able to play Combo Devils? Do you get an alpha build for backing the Kickstarter or something?
>>732605561Plup actually called Rivals 2 his favorite platform fighter, which I found surprising.>I mean Melee is Melee, but... yeah, this is my favoriteI just wish he'd stream it more. Or at all. The charisma void in Melee in killing me.
>>732631180Backers got access to the closed beta since the Kickstarter got funded.
>>732607782Love me rat, simple as>>732608984I like the Maypul skin, but everything else is a pass from me. But if there's a primal Galvan skin, I'm stupid enough to buy it if it isn't shit.
>We've taken inspiration from Smash Bros, Street Fighter, Marvel VS Capcom, and many other great fighting games we grew up with.>MvCThis sounds horrible
>>732630096Pedophiles hate realistic women
>>732609647It offers more precision and allows you to more consistently perform inputs that are awkward to do on controller. But really, it isn't that big of an issue because no one uses them.
>>732624897I like her RoA1 version more. She hasn't clicked for me in 2.
>>732630096i dont like male bodies on women, idk why this is such a hard concept for you guys to grasp
>>732631448Come on, I love flatties but even IRL they're a minority.
>>732631385I'm still flip-flopping on whether to back Combo Devils or not, but it looks really fun except for some specific stuff.>because it's a fusion of 2D and platform fighters, it looks like a lot of your bread-and-butter strings don't really vary from combo to combo and take a few a seconds to perform with no counterplay>the super animations are really fucking long (seriously, why are they so long)It's like how Terry has a jab hit confirm in Smash Ultimate, and his jab is longer than any other character's, so any time you're jabbed by him you have to watch>jab jab>jab jab>input power dunkI'll definitely back it if I can trick at least one friend into backing it too, though.
I've played against /v/ in Melee. Everyone here, including me, is a fucking fraud - except for Morse, who only posted on /vg/. I have no idea why people spend so much time posturing about the purity of Melee when they fucking suck at it.
>>732620956Genesis, surely
>>732631890$30 USD to back, not that bad for a niche game genre.The super animations remind me of NASB2.
>>732632172It sucks being a casual enjoyer in games with Melee's physics.4 player games are so much more fun with Melee's mechanics.
>>732632172>posturingMelee is dead as an eSport. Just enjoy the game.
>>732632371Someone has to make a game where everyone has items and it's not Brawlhalla (weapon spawning is boring).
beginning to think OP is tsundere for rivals of aether>game gets 0 threads on /v/>game gets 0 discussion on /v/>he keeps making threads to seethe about it completely unprompted
>>732632694Just play Ultimatehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy7gxcMiS_A
>>732632732If you read the subreddit, you would understand why it gets dunked on relentlessly.
>>732605461Rivals 2 is actually for P+ players that are tired of the underground life style
>>732632945and those p+ players are.....
>>732632925so not only are you tsundere for rivals, you just admitted to being so obsessed with it that you read the subreddit for a game you hate
>>732632925>If you read the subredditGo back
>>732632925>If you read the subredditUnironically kill yourself, OP
>>732633167hey, i don't even use reddit. you have now learned more than one person hates rivals 2
>>732633167No, I'm not OP. I can understand why people react the way they do about this game, given how faggy the subreddit is.
>>732632821Where are the combos?
>>732632985>>732632945Troons and hasbeens
>just read reddit bro>check it>MU chart>clip>combo video>Why is everyone better than me?>Genesis seeding>rosterfaggotry>asking for help with Workshop>clip>Void and Marss playing teams>Loxodont main cryingI don't get it, what am I supposed to be seeing
>>732633557You got trolled into visiting Reddit.He got you good.
>>732633614NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
explain the difference between crouch canceling + ASDI down in melee and floorhugging in rivals
>>732633745Floorhugging is better
>>732633859you can't just say that
>>732633459Combos? Those are degenerate and lead to a worse gameplay experience for casuals, because casuals can't do them and competitive players who can will just beat them up. It's better this way.
>>732634004But Megaman is making any combos. That's so lame.
>>732634289Exactly, we took them out completely so no one can do them. It's better this way, trust us. You'll see.
Decided to play Etalus, having more fun than I expected toI feel like the ice armor isn’t doing a whole lot for me though
>>732631261It's not that surprising as the Smash community always treated Plup like shit.Ironic that how a community founded by autists, eventually phased all the autsts out of it. And now all that are left are a bunch of drunks, groomers, and/or pedos.
>>732634727Hottie
>>732621367There's 45 online in a game they've had the servers shutdown for longer than they were up for
I genuinely believe if this game just copied melee it would be 5x more popular than it is right now and everyone would be happy. You don't like admitting this is true, but it is for the best that games are hard to master, not easy. Trying to make games easier to get people to play them just leads to a game that doesn't have a lot of competition because it doesn't rake in competitors (it rakes in scrubs instead) and a game that feels a lot less satisfying to play as a result.
>>732634775>homer_cradling_moldy_sandwich.jpgi don't know what the deal is with MVS players. they're willing to die for... this.
>>732635069To be fair, it was made with 2v2s in mind.I always thought 1v1s would be weird.
>>732634897>leads to a game that doesn't have a lot of competition because it doesn't attract competitorsI feel like this would be a more valid argument if the top 8s for RoA2 weren't extremely consistent. When I watch US tournaments, I see the same players consistently top 8. In fact, the inverse of what you're describing ends up happening, because gimmicky players like Zeebee (the king of Kragg gimmicks), Cheesypotato (diet Zeebee), and Sophilo (carried by pre-nerf Zetterburn) always get better player'd out of bracket before top 8. Meanwhile, more rounded players representing these characters (Ion for Kragg, Beastly for Zetterburn) end up placing well.Anyway, the game shouldn't copy Melee, nor does it. It has ledges, shields, and grabs, but all of these function differently than they do in Melee or any other platform fighter with them. You cannot appease Melee players. They just want to play Melee. Even if you made a game that was identical to Melee but with a balanced roster, they wouldn't play it because it isn't Melee. You might think I'm being harsh, but it's true. Melee is Melee because of its flaws, and because those flaws have been adapted to for 20+ years. They are an integral part of the game that people simply accept.
>>732634897It would be worse, because nobody from competitive Melee would migrate to it and there's a bigger audience for a game like Project M/+ (regardless if they're shitters, troons and/or tryhards). The last chance for a game exactly like Melee was Pool Party, because Riot had the money to bankroll the transition. I would like a game exactly like Melee, but RoA2 being that game would be terrible.
>>732635532melee isnt the only smash game filled with actual competitors. there's also ultimate, which i would argue has far more competitors anyways. if this game actually required skill a lot of ultimate players (and some melee) wouldve flooded it and it would've made tournaments worth watching which would've brought even more people in. dan probably wouldn't need to fire 30% of his team if he made a game that would've been worth playing instead of making "noob easy game so people dont complain but is actually really boring because its a noob easy game"
>>732635532>The last chance for a game exactly like Melee was Pool PartyI'm already tired of the>imagine if we got Pool Party, thoughshit I've been seeing in 2XKO / Melee threads. Not saying you're doing this, I'm just saying that we already know from the same insider report that revealed Pool Party's cancellation that the game was suffering the same issues that are affecting 2XKO: in short, friction between the developers wanting to make a competitive game based on an existing one (MvC / Melee) and corporate wanting a more "casual-oriented" fighting game.It's just going to be this>bro but the grass would have been SO GREEN, trust!specter hanging over the platform fighter subgenre
>>732635679melee / ultimate players don't want to play rivals because it doesn't have nintendo characters
>>732635778melee and ultimate players dont want to play rivals because its boring and none of the characters are interesting to pilot.
I will literally never play anything else. Don't even try to pander to me. I'm set for life.
>>732635703The idea of Pool Party being that last chance of transitioning away from Melee is not my opinion, Hungrybox said it when criticizing NASB having Nigel behave exactly like Jigglypuff. It's more compelling to change games if the deal was mechanics like Melee with enough money to jump ship. Icons tried to shower Mang0 with money and nobody cared.In my opinion, Amazon should get their shit together and publish Fizzi's game copying Melee. Beyond that, who else with money would bankroll a transition away from Melee? Disney? Bandai Namco?
>>732635814I don’t think characters being interesting to pilot is a requirement for any Ultimate player.
>>732635520This is why the PM/+ approach is much better than copying Melee. People just don't care enough to pay for a Melee copy.
>>732635894Imagine the stink.
>>732636753lol
>>732635894Rivals girls owe me floor hugging.
>>732635679RoA2 has been mismanaged since launch. At the state the game is now, performance and physics issues have been solved and the game is more enjoyable now.
>>732635778>>732635814>>732636753Brawl players played PM before SSB4 launched btw
>>732637108everyone played pm when it was popular
>>732637029I didn’t actually know what updates the game has had but I have been putting a lot more hours into it.
>>732607335yes and it seems that no so many people are interested or is very hard to make characters for it because in a month only a few custom characters are "ok"
>>732636910>girlswhos gonna tell him..
I couldn't care less, only few characters and still in the beta, I'm sorry but this game is dead on arrival
>>732637029>performanceNo, BUT I will say that shader pre-caching is a significant improvement. I personally experience absolutely no issues with performance on either my desktop or laptop, so I don't know what's causing performance issues for other players.>physicsI assume you're talking about balance, since the game really never had any significant issues with physics. The closest thing I can think of is issues related to the input buffer which were resolved.I do think it is the most balanced platform fighter, and arguably the most balanced modern fighting game. I usually get really into it for a week or two at a time, and I rarely experience any annoyance beyond being rusty. I should really grind up to master one of these days.
>>732637316A lot harder to do 3D characters than 2D sprites
>>732621367I don't think comparing your game's numbers to a rotten corpse's is a good look specially since the difference isn't that big
>>732637316It's going to take a while for good Workshop characters to come out. It's more work than it was in RoA1 and people are going to need to develop the necessary skill sets. The bright side is that a lot of it is in-engine (within UE5), which is very user-friendly, and everything more complicated than that is LUA, which is an easy scripting language.On the other hand, stages and items will be pretty easy, so I'd almost expect to see those sooner than good characters.
>>732637447isn't that super easy if you just import the 3D models for another game?
>>732637721Yes, which is why there's already a Melee Marth and an Ultimate DK mod being worked on (unfinished)
hamir more like homir lmao
>>732637973>already 5 earth characters>sylvanos isn't inNEVER FUCKING EVER and that's perfectly fine by me because I want more water and fire characters, and Elliana
>>732637441Performance was bad because rollback netcode was too CPU intensive for this game. There were animations from recovery to stage that would bug out (iirc this is not netcode related) and the mentioned input buffer.
>thought galvan would be irredeemable dog shit>ends up being one of my favorite platform fighter charactersFuck you, Dan
>>732638270heavies or aether
>>732638487And that's a good thing because they're all bad except for Kragg and Etalus
>>732638595Is Etalus even considered good? He’s fun yeah, but good?
>>732605461>main reason people bought the original was workshop content>sequel has no workshop content and adds microtransactionsI've heard it's good but like still
>>732638892>sequel has no workshop contentUntrue
>>732638892>sequel has no workshop contentuhm..............
>>732638730He's flying under the radar. He's not top tier and he has a few polarizing match-ups due to his recovery, but he's easily the second best heavy behind Kragg, who himself is a top 2, maybe top 3 character.I'm thinking of learning him seriously, but he's one of the only characters in the game who actually hurts my hands to play.
>>732638961>>732638987has no workshop content yet*
>>732638730I play Etalus because Coney hates him.
>>732639040>but he's one of the only characters in the game who actually hurts my hands to play.Okay so I’m not crazy the jump cancel aerials make you work hard Like it’s fun to do but goddamn
>>732638961>>732638987gonna google this since literally one of the main things the devs said was "it wasn't going to have workshop support"...
>>732639128based coney mindbreaker
>>732639245OH THEY CAVED LMAO
>>732639245Rivals of Aether Workshop has been in beta since January 13th, anon
>>732639245You might be confusing it in your head with the>We have no plans for crossover characterscomment, although it is yet to be seen whether this will extend to skins.>>732639197Yeah, it's just the fact that you have to be constantly ready to hit confirm dash attack into either wavedash, RAR bair, or turnaround fair. It's exhausting, but rewarding.
>>732639245Retardmaxxing CHAD...
>>732609519No SDI is a little bit meh just because it leads to "set" combos more easily which is lame, but it makes multihits more consistent which is good.
rude mouse
>>732631261>>732634754Plup is also a furry, which kind of helps that.
>>732639508>No SDI is a little bit meh just because it leads to "set" combos more easily which is lameYeah, this is the mostly immediately obvious potential problem with Combo Devils for me. I like platform fighters because the defensive counterplay is so active compared to 2D fighters. I hope that I am completely wrong, though.
>>732639606Based
>>732639679This is why anime fighters are lame.
>>732639606Maypul is one lucky raccoon.
>>732639785
I love this man, in a platonic way of course, he's just fun to play.
>>732639679If they handle normal DI well enough, then it may not be a problem. The issue that Melee avoided due to meta not existing before patches is combos are organic rather than explored and designed around. What ends up happening is combos are made from the start and then as the meta refines, other stuff bubbles to the surface and you get very optimized setplay. Ultimate is a great example of this. Melee manages to still be jazz-esque despite a very, very mature meta and the most unpopular elements of Melee are those moments which are "set" in stone (ICs, a lot of the chaingrabs, etc). Also worth noting that SDI is important counterplay to otherwise very strong combo options such as drillshines. We will see how it goes, but to me it reeks of devs having too strong of a hand on what they envision characters to be able or not able to do.
>>732640018I’m stuck in the silver mines as I’m total dogshit and I have not seen a single forsburn player even once
>>732640132How often do you play?
>>732640132He's relatively rare for whatever reason. Even at a high level, the only person representing him is Cake, who's simply better than everyone else (except Plup).
>>732640182I dropped off for a few months but recently decided to pick it back up a couple weeks ago, around 1-2 hours each day that I’ve played.
>>732640018Super clone is the coolest mechanic in any platform fighter, period. It's such a shame that he's terminally retarded.I keep gravitating back to Forsburn as my "soul character", even though I'm objectively worse at him than I am at my secondaries. He's just so fun and rewarding.
>>732640375Sidenote: at the lower levels where I am, there are so many fucking La Reinas. People love this goddamn character and I am sick of getting command grabbed.
>>732640375I almost offered to faff about with you since I'm probably better fundamentally but don't feel like getting tryhard on ranked, but I doubt I could play often or consistently enough to make it worth your while. I'm an old fart with kids and the only vidya stuff I miss is playing Monster Hunter and platform fighters with friends.
>>732640515I’m posting from work while I have downtime so it’s fine
>>732640446At least she's not very good. But yeah, it's not any different where I'm at (diamond). A lot of La Reina players who switch off of her when they lose.I wish I liked her more, but I'm not feeling it.
>>732640393It's a clever way of doing something sort of similar to ICs without the total cancer aspect.
>>732640393This game looks and feels way more like ultimate than melee
>>732640617It just feels like PM 2 to me
>>732640018God I hate furry shit so much
>>732640635A lot of the playerbase is similar so it makes sense they would be pushing it towards that direction. There's something just not "tight" feeling about PM/Rivals to me that Smash and Slap City tend to have.
>>732640714Brawl can't be melee no more how much it's modded
>>732640868Matter*Fucking jeetcorrect
>>732640680The era of furchads draws near.
>>732640868That is correct and back when it was under heavy development the devs would lie about certain aspects of the game, claiming it was 1:1. Landing detection in Brawl is totally, utterly fucked and no amount of modding has properly unfucked it.
>>732640868okay
>Kraft went from one of the worst heavies to one of the best in the sequel How?
>>732605461Meleefags were existentially checkmated when Project M proved to be the better game on every level, they're on a spiral of hardcore denial ever since and would rather die than admit there's nothing to it without the nostalgia.Also, they're socially retarded enough to think they can get away with a game packed with furry porno artists and designs.
>>732641091What made him bad in the original?
>>732641178His recovery was bad as if you were knock far enough away the opponent would attack it the second you put it up and your second “recovery” couldn’t take you far enough back on stage
>>732641338Oh, well in that case his recovery is better, although i do think that the average player doesn't contest it as much as they should. He's one of those characters you just can't let get to the wall, because he's very good of playing off of it. He also escaped the diminishing return nerfs that hit other characters' recoveries, like Olympia's and Zetterburn's. I'm still waiting for it to happen to him too.
>>732640393God what a shit cartroony cel shaded art styleLooks like they failed to fix Melee's main problem of spamming so you can't do shit except spam yourself unless they get desperate and stop hiding and slip up running right into a an actual SMASH(remember those?)Like seriously you:>can't land>cant recover>can't wind up a smash move, fair, special etc. have to spam short hop or chain grab constantlyMy game is a shoe-in cause it's not furry slop and actually fixes this shit
It's all gay little air moves and a gay faggy off ledge at the ledge where the opponent falls to his death, so weak and cucked. Where is the testosterone?
Like no one gets mad and charges up a smash move out of fury and puts their emotion into the game, it's just soulless NPC minmaxxing.I'm glad my competition is so sloppy honestly, I'm glad Westoids don't understand Melee cause now I can add it's fighting physics into my game that originally didn't have it and was much worse off.
Even Japanese furries who are primarily physics based, fully clothed, have bionic legs and actually have moves that slap are still inferior to just normal human anime characters, why do people like that ugly weird furry design. It's disrespectful to pets, specifically the sexualization.
i hate rivals 2 with a burning passion
>>732635996You're not even playing the game right I bet. Spamming is not skill, a little bitch ledge hog resulting in a gay weak KO is not playing, it's just being the annoying kid no one wants to play with because he's too scared to try anything new
>>732644659Same, I've never played it and only am forcing myself to watch these gameplay webms to make sure my game is nothing like it.
>>732644663are you really trying to argue melee is the no skill game? do you really want to argue that?
>>732644659okay
>>732641048Samurai wanted to make a different game, people need to respect his design and stop looking for exploits like wavedashing to ruin the game.
The Smash schizo has arrived
>>732644780The tourneyfags are the ones with zero skill. In order to win a match you have to either:>meteor smash>sky high off screen KO>send opponent flying so far they literally cannot recover>use every single move at least once and have it hitAll of which happens at high damage which is where the game gets really fun due to the launch mechanic. Otherwise all you have is prevention, cuck shit. And that's not fun, it's gay.
>>732644898Why is having a non-mainstream opinion considered "schizo" now?This is why no one is doing anything about Epstein, they just want to move on and pretend conspiracy theorists were wrong.They have nothing else, not even two braincells to rub together.
>>732644898>smash schizo rambling to himself in a Rivals thread>doesn't even realize that there's a Melee thread up
>>732645252I want to talk about Rivals right now, is that allowed?Can people think outside of the box for once? Why is everyone so brainwashed into being conformist on a fucking contrarian website of all places? Man you guys really need your own platform.
>>732640565>has literal tranny colors for a skin optionlmao
>>732639245anon...
>>732646445I'm afraid to donwload this because I know Ultimate DK will never feel right to me again
>>732646647I understand
this games only chance at being worth playing is having smash characters ported over via workshop because they would be the only fun characters in the game
>>732647925yeah pretty much I hate that a lot of the rivals characters are forced around a retarded gimmick
>>732648415i was so excited for absa to come out. she appeared to be (at least to me as someone that didnt play pm or roa) a mix of melee mew2 with melee pika. i thought this game would finally get a cool character and it turned out she just throws some thunder thing and plays around it. doesnt even do cool combos. such a disappointing game.
>>732648571happens when you pander to compfags
>>732605461>shitty netcode>server infrastructure owned by an african companytroons here tried to defend this shit lol
>>732649356Haven’t had any issues so far
>>732649512Ignorance is bliss
>>732649512lol
>>732643271>Where is the testosterone?left in rivals 1
>>732646445>>732646890>>732647553Sweet. I hope someone makes a solo Ice climber character.
>>732650697why would anyone do that
>>732649905Both games are just soi
>>732650806because solo ice climber is fun
>>732650063Everyone cares about orcane, come on now
>>732649356Works on my machine, but then again I live in a first world country.
>>732637721Yes but then you need to animate it, or limit yourself to characters from similar games that already have the animations. A lot of what made Rivals 1's workshop so great was that 2D sprite animation is a lot easier to get into than 3D modelling and 3D animation which resulted in a lot of original characters, or at least characters using original sprites and animations. I doubt we're gonna see a faithful rendition of dark donald anytime soon.
This game is one of many instances where /v/ is unable to differentiate between>I don't like this thingand>This thing is objectively bad and I will dedicate hours of my life to attacking it on a Sudanese garage aquaculture board until everyone else agrees with meThe game's playerbase is small enough, especially on 4chan, that you begin to see the same shitposters posting about it: the homosexual furry obsessed with Forsburn, who deliberately tried to kill /roag/ by spamming gay fan art; Kassfag, who is an actually well-known /v/ schizo; and then there's OP, the only remaining shitposter, who's obsessed with the game despite despising it, and who loves to repeat that it's for "failed Melee players".
>>732652820I don't like /roag/ because everyone there is miserable and reddit like.
>>732639456>>732639393absolute revisionism
>>732656210i've been following the game's development since kickstarter, even though i didn't play RoA1. they were always promising workshop, you're confusing it with them being noncommittal about guest characters because shovel knight, ori, and tower of heaven were all products of circumstance. idk if dan wanted 2 to be its own things with only its own characters, but that's irrelevant speculation on my part.
New stages when?
>>732658516that would be interesting which is exactly why it isnt happening
>>732658516>>732658587No new como stages this year. All new stages coming are for casual play.
>>7326585161. there are 2 new stages hiding in the game files. one might be a test stage, while we don't know anything about the other.2. aether stages (in other words, stage hazards) soon, it's on the first half of the roadmap. probably the next big non-character update, if it isn't items.
>>732659052to be honest the game doesn't really need any more competitive stages than it currently has. tournament legal warioware (rock wall) and PM green hill zone (forest) are already peak, and the competitive stage list is much more varied than other platform fighters. ideally, i'd like to see the less popular stages swapped out, by which i mean hyperborean harbor. fuck that stage.
>>732659705Replace that thing with Fountain of Dreams Melee
bump
>>732637558the difference is significantly different when one was independent and the other was warner brothers, it had more player before Multiversus went offline too
i hate clairenevery clairen player is carriedthat is all
>>732664567skill issue
>>732605461i peaked at diamond in melee and got bored of the same 4 charactersat least the characters in rivals have stupid gimmicks to keep them somewhat interestinganyways combo devils is gonna come out and obsolete this flugging filled piece of crab
>>732664774>anyways combo devils is gonna come out and obsolete this flugging filled piece of crabhighly doubt it but we'll see
>>732634657ice armor is kind of a memeits better to just spread ice with up-b wavedashes between stocks than to try and use armor
>>732664820wishful thinking i know, but every time i've played it at an event it feels fucking amazingand with the kickstarter theres an actual growing interest in the game outside of a passing oddity
>>732664774>anyways combo devils is gonna come out and obsolete this flugging filled piece of crabcombo devils is releasing with a whopping 7 characters dude, if that. i want the game to do well, but i don't think that's going to be a tough sell considering it's even more esoteric than the average platfighter.
>>732665453>combo devils is releasing with a whopping 7 charactersgrim
man i wish stages in this game had stuff like walls or unique elements besides just moving plats
>>732666786soon™but really the game needs some sort of multi-queue system so you can queue the funs modes simultaneously
>>732666786>>732666806I hope they do it soon
>>732666786that would be interesting which is exactly why it didn't happen. i wish this game would just take notes from smash remix, they have some pretty cool stages
I'll never understand why they thought kragg should have all those recovery options... glad I didn't buy this shit, tried the beta way back when and nope'd outta there
>>732667914They should've removed wall jumping but it's too late for that
>>732666806>>732666786I like Rivals 1, but I think the casual stage list is kind of lame even with Aether variations. There's some fun gimmicks behind them, but they don't have the variety of layouts/scale Smash stages tend to have. If they're going to add casual stages, they need their own casual kino like a Hyrule Temple/Corneria equivalent that's real fun for free for alls or more casually oriented doubles.
>>732665453I think normies care more about singleplayer gimmick content than they do about roster size, and CD is going all in on rougelite coop crap. Its honestly surefire. Probably outsells Rivals 2.
>>732668236maybe. i do hope that smash run mode they mentioned eventually comes to roa2
>>732668473Smash Run sucks
>>732668984smash run is a great concept stifled by shitty platforming physics and a lack of customization
>>732668984die
>>732667801i just looked at smash remix holy shit that looks awesome>>732668028rivals 1 and now 2 both suffer from melee comp brain, no stage is allowed to cost anyone a set and that really sucks
>>732671364This is why I fellate Slap City since Ludosity actually went out of their way to make the game feel like it was developed like any other Smash title. Hyper compfag focus just leads to the dumpster fire that's Rivals 2's launch where they shoved MTX shit in before they added sounds and music to target test mode.
>>732671531I love Hurtland
>>732671531in the advanced defense tutorial they literally have a section for wall DI but not a single map in the game has walls to DI off, like why is wall DI even in the game then? Are they stupid?
