>Work on your fighting game for 10 years>This is all you can muster for your day 1 charactersIs this the weakest launch roster in fighting game history?
>>732734581>WAAAAHHHH WHY ARENT THERE 40 CHARACTERS AT LAUNCHHnigger you only end up using 1 or 2 characters, shut up
>>>732734581>Is this the weakest launch roster in fighting game history?Yes
>>732734581why is half the roster locked
>>732734581>That ekko pose
Sajam status?
>>732734581No, Smash 4 had a worse roster
>>732734581Other games have launched with less.
>>732735129It's a f2p game.
>>732735645Sajam already moved on to Deadlock. Leffen is considering getting a job.
>>732735645>already conditioning his audience to move to Deadlock>shits on Tokon>still seething and coping as hard as yesterday https://www.twitch.tv/sajam/v/2694382894Today's cope
>>732735902>>shits on TokonWonder how this game will do since MvC players don't like it but maybe that's good thing for the games success. 20 characters though does seem kinda slim for a 4v4 game.
>>732736468Is Tokon a $70 game? That's a crazy ask for 20 characters and being 4v4
>>732735902>shits on Tokonwhy? I thought he was all about ArcSys/Strive while Capcom had him blacklisted
>>732735902>shits on TokonLmao even the arcsys shill can't find anything good about Tokon
>>732736776He's now all into Deadlock with other FGC streamers like Diaphone and TKbreezy. Sajam is done with fighting games once the 2XKO circuit ends in October at the earliest.>>732736853He really hates Tokon, it made me curious if it's going to be good. Anything this guy touches implodes.
>>732737178>all into Deadlock with other FGC streamersReally into a hero shooter MOBA hybrid? I think deadlock is fine but what a jump in genre but MOBAs historical have offered some of the biggest reports scenes that eclipse the FGC so maybe that's why? I don't watch these dudes so maybe I'm offbase here.
>>732737557afaik, only Sajam played Deadlock off stream.Looking forward on Russians calling them nigger faggets
>>732734581>poorly advertise it to your community>focus hard on Arcane and spinoffs instead of legacy picks>game also dismissed Leagues style in favor of comic cell shading>also rebuild your game for 2v2 and have to redo most of your workBiggest monkey paw. I always wanted a League fighter, and we got modern esports slop with a league skin I barely recognize
>>732737757>Looking forward on Russians calling them nigger faggetsHe's in NA. He'll get spics at most.
>>732737816Whatever happened to the LoL fan fighting game? Heard there was some fuckery with Panda Global over going bankrupt.
>>732737557All the other active PvP games already settled down when it comes to content creators and streamers. It's this or back to SF6.
I'm one of the few people who actually played Ruined King.I didn't really need to see Ahri, Yasuo, Braum, and Illaoi again when they could have picked more interesting gameplay styles.
>>732737974I hope ASSFAGGOTS players stump these pussies in ranked hard and we get compilation of them crying.
>>732738107*compilation videos
>>732734581
>>732737557Sajam played Dota 2 years ago. I don't remember ever seeing him stream it, but I remember him talking about it. He was at least familiar with the heroes and how they played because I remember him comparing them to fighting game archetypes.
>>732735645Buckbroken
>>732738257Yes, Sajam has a few hundred hours on Dota 2.
>>732737969there's no money in the fgc and they died before the saudis came in
>>732735645Check from Riot for his shilling services? Cashed
>>732738343No, Panda Global went broke over a slap fight with management with Ludwig and Moistkritical. Twitch streamers (faggets) called for a boycott the Nintendo Smash circuit and Panda have to pay back the advertisers.
>>732734581>>732734981What an ugly ass art style.
>>732738493this is my main problem with it, the teaser they showed back in 2019 looked better, why did they settle with this ugly shit?
>>732738749>why did they settle with this ugly shitMuch like the rest of the game, they saw something in another fighter they liked and decided to cram it into 2XKO regardless of how well it fit the original designs. In this case, it was Guilty Gear's graphics.
>>732738749>>732738945The Cannon brothers scamming Tencent for a decade
>>732734581What a shit roster. How dare they have Darius and no Garen. Fuck them.
>>732738476>slap fightit was the other big TOs trying to tank the panda circuit on purpose so they could have their own circuit without having to go through nintendo.Lo and behold nintendo strangled them anyway and all of them either straight up went broke or severely had to downsize
>>732739108VGBC straight up lied about their application process.
>>732737841>good hombre righteously calls him faggetGOOD
>>732735645This guy's "disarming chillness" is so hollow. Also he got completely filtered by Rivals of Aether 2 which was funny.
I've never heard of this game. Not that I'm a Lolfag, but it just seems like I would have ran into it at some point. I even knew about Runeterra.
>>732738067ahri and yasuo are generally mass appeal and would be foolish to excludethey were also pretty much only the particularly good picks. teemo is a solid joke/humorous character pick, but other than that they should've stuck to very popular characters IF they were going to gamble on a roster this small.stuff like illoai, blitz, and braum would be much more at home if they were mixed in with 20 or so more characters that were a bit more generic.
>>732738213>wasn't in dev hell for anywhere close to 10 years>This is a 1v1 and not tag trash
>>732739731>filtered by consolebaby platform fighter HAHAHAHAHA
>>732738067>>732739868Yeah Ahri is basically the face of LoL right now (also thanks to Faker) and Yasuo is super popular. Overall the picks are fine since there's a good mix of popular and meme characters, but there just needs to be more of them. You can shove in Illoai and Blitzcrank, but not in a game with 10 fighters.
>>732738213Correct but also Incorrect.It was hated at the time, but over the years people came to love all those characters.
>>732739868Braum feels like the industry plant character of the game like Jeff does in Marvel Rivals
i wonder just how badly arcane fatigue hurt the game. after warwick i pretty much lost all faith that piltover/zaun wasn't going to represent most of the roster and just gave up on the game.
>can the cannon bros>can all of the lead everythings>bring in new leadership, californian hobos from under a bridge if they must>give them the clearance to do whatever the fuck they want to the game, including shutting it down and making a new game with the assetsnew leadership cannot possibly be worse at this point. this is the best possible path moving forward.
>>732740369I have more trust in hobos to make a MOBA fighting game
>>732740028the only potential that shit game had was the rising thunder base which they completely abandoned right at the start of development
I don't think this game is that bad outside of obvious balance problems, the roster, the lack of content, the artstyle, and the anti-cheat
>>732739868Blitzcrank is a good choice too, OG character with a lot of fans and a natural gameplay concept as an extendo arm grapplerI haven't played lol since like season 2 so I don't know any of the new characters but like half the OG cast were just better picks than Illiaoi and Braum, and Cait is probably one of the lamer OG character choices too. Imagine if it had had Lee Sin and Twisted Fate and Shaco instead.
>>732739909>consolebabyit's pc-only
stick to making netcode, tom & tony. you literally cannot make a fighting game to save your lives.
>>732734581They stole the paycheck from tencent for 10 years and dipped
>>732741074dream game dev job right there
I hopped back into Grub versus and enjoyed it way more now than I initially did, lots of characters too at this pointI bounced off of COTW despite wanting to like it sadly
>>732738067>imageI bet that painter, unlike Riot, actually drew her panties instead of a black void.
>>732740942Yes, there's PC games made for consolebabies. This guy is suppose to play Deadlock?
>>732741045>>732741074>>732741193DSP was right all along
>Be Cannon bros, approach Riot>We're gonna make a LoL game, it'll be for the casuals and cash in big time on Arcane hype and the "Golden Age of Fighting Games">Placate corporate with some retarded buzzwords like "See? No motion controls!">Somehow they leave you completely alone>Soon your staff is full of the most degenerate MvC players you could find, fuck around for the better part of a decade and come up with an extremely grimy and unapproachable tag fighter with a dreadful control scheme that appeals to the fringes of a fringe genre while raking in California dev wages>Game crashes and burns within weeks of its releaseHow the hell did they or anyone really get away with scamming two multi-billion companies? Mahvelniggers will forever be based for this, as much as it hurts to say. Fucking lmao
>>732741408Scamming Sony and Tencent is kinda based
>>732741408they scammed our time and attention too, though. and for that, they're unforgivable.
>>732734778The world doesn't revolve around me tho
>>732741545I'll forgive them if the right people embarrass themselves online for more amusement
Not a single one of my fightan autist friends was interested in 2KXO, it was a game for literally nobody not surprising at all it flopped.
>>732739781That's part of the issue. It wasn't advertised at all. People only knew it was in eternal beta from word of mouth. When it released I saw ONE ad on Twitch - if you had adblock you'd never know about it.
>>732734581Fighting games live and die by their characters and if your characters are unappealing personalities and characterization you will fail brutally. Why do you think no one speaks highly of the first Street Fighter, it wasn't until Street Fighter 2 that the series started to get good defined characterization for its founding characters. Bad characters leads to low interest from the customer.
>>732734778Don't you have women to sexual harass Rioter
>>732734581Yes. Smash bros 64 had more for God's sake.
>>732734581Which non fighting gaming series do you wish had a fighting game?
>>732741196I'm sorta in the opposite boat as you anon. I play CotW, but I've been eyeing Granblue for a while now. Heard that it's a super simple fighter though, there's shit like battle passes in it and I don't know shit about Granblue characters or lore.Is it worth trying anyways? What fighting game does it play like?
so what were they doing for 10 years? Blow and hookers?
>All the fucking faggots online standing behind the devs>This shit took 10 fucking yearsThere is no fucking way this wasnt some funny money bullshit with funds going to who the fuck knows what.Tencent probably figured out they were cooking the books and brought down the hammer.Fucking Silksong took less time.Cuphead took less time.
>>732741685Dota 2 and Fortnite Save The World
>>732739731>This guy's "disarming chillness" is so hollowbecause he's passive aggressive when he wants to be angry insteadI remember seeing him do that during some rivals tourney that he ended up in. I imagine he does the same in Deadlock.
>>732741767Riot is just incredibly incompetent. Every lol spinoff they make flops.
>>732741767The new Riot CEO before getting promoted, was responsible for Riot buying Hypixel (Hytale) and Radiant Entertainment (2XKO). This 2XKO layoffs mimic how Hytale got cancelled without prior notice before the quarterly earnings report. Bob Iger mentality
>>732741730Worse, paying his friends and Twitch streamers
>>732741815They're about to at this pace troons capture the game completely.
>>732741927I mean Im not saying the higherups dont have their blame in this but I think way too many people online just see "Devs laid off" and blindly stick up for them without realizing the game is terrible.I mean we are talking releasing an 8 mana roster and one of them is fucking Brawl Meta Knight tier.
>>732741685Just give me a varied cast of characters.Like give me a Boondocks fighter, or a Senran Kagura fighter, or a goddamn FGO fighter.Hell, I'd even take a Naruto/Bleach fighter.So many interesting powers could be turned into gimmicks or unique mechanics.
>>732741814>because he's passive aggressive when he wants to be angry insteadHow can such an unlikeable person be this accepted in any community? Is the FGC really this welcoming?
>>732742023This executive has a lot of blame and it shows in the final product.
>>732742105These are the same fags who befriend Sonicfox and Leffen btw
>>732742023Both management and devs can be equally shit at their jobs in this situation.
>>732742105Have you seen what the fgc is like these days? That type of behavior is welcomed in the current twitter fgc
>>732741685+1 on The BoondockZ
>>732742241
>>732741815lol
It's ugly and all the characters are lame and gay. This art style appeals to exactly nobody on the planet.
>>732741693It's simplistic but pretty solid feeling. I like how it's very footsies oriented and the movement is nice feeling without being "anime". COTW and SF6 feel stiff to me personally in comparison.>What fighting game does it play like?Maybe a little like the Alpha games? But where you can string big damage on confirms much more like a modern title. You have airblock, sidestep/roll and each character has a unique special skill.>there's shit like battle passes in it All the content in those that matter like costumes come back as DLC on steam. You can creaminstaller those anyway without issue.It's not perfect but I tolerate the weird stuff in grub more than the things that made me bounce off of COTW, you do have strange things like cooldowns for specials, the infamous 66L and the SPB-like "armored" move that lets you go into a braindead combo but at higher level play it's very suboptimal. Worth trying at least and there is the free version too.
>>732742241How old is this image
>>732740942>it's pc-onlyConsolebaby in spirit
>>732740675>I don't think this game is that bad outside of (everything that makes the game bad)
>>732742356>and there is the free versionDidn't know that. I assume the free version locks off most of the roster, can you just creamapi them in?
>>732735645>currently kneeling in front of a Saudi Prince to ask for forgiveness after converting to Islam.
>>732742626Prince MBS (pbup)
>>732739731>Also he got completely filtered by Rivals of Aether 2 which was funnygood times
>>732741408>How the hell did they or anyone really get away with scamming two multi-billion companies?Pre-Covid Riot and Tencent was swimming with money so they can take a hit and indulge their devs. Post Covid and post CCP children's curfew they were bleeding billions.
>>732742719Best balanced fighting game right now
>>732742818i genuinely agree
>>732742559Yeah I'm pretty sure it's just Gran (the basic shoto) and a rotation of 3 others? I think unlocking the full version through that was addressed by now but I'm unsure. It would at least let you get a feel for the game though if not anyway.
>>732742559yeah, real easy too
>>732739947Yeah? When has Necro appeared again?
>>732743129>>732743167Appreciate it anons, gonna go look into that now. I'll give Arcsys my money if I end up sticking with the game.
>>732743357Dont listen to grubblers game is shit and boring and also notice they didnt tell that yes creamapi works online Dont give cyganes any dollar
>>732734581>only 10 characters>you have to grind to unlock more than 5Wtf
>>732741770I'm surprised no one has tried to make a Dota 2 fighting game after that one joke mode thing happened.
>>732743510Gaben is huge slut for a team based online games not 1vs1
>>732743437>also notice they didnt tell that yes creamapi works onlineThe first reply to my first question said I could do that anon.
>>732742023Or you've just spent too much time on /v/ and are too quick to fully blame the devs. Especially when complaining about the size of a roster. I swear some of you people have no idea how much of a nightmare it can often be for a developer to make a game for someone else's IP as their bitch studio. It's not like you're just given full reign of the toybox and can do whatever you want with them. There's so many hoops to jump through just to get a character approved, and then a dozen more to make sure it's what they consider to be an appropriate and brand synergistic representation.
>>732737816I wouldn't say 2xko was poorly advertised, more that it was barely advertised for *years* because the game was in AAA early access. Remember when we were waiting 6 months between update videos? It was a terrible promotional model compared to basically any other fighting game.
>>732742023>I mean>I mean>Brawl Meta Knight tierbrown hands typed this post
>>732736468>>732736674Why act interested while still talking it up as being 4v4? Have you not seen any of the footage? It's basically just a 1v1 game.
Make a fighting game like this
>>732742818I feel like RoA2's balance gets undersold because it's a platform fighter, but it really is one of the best balanced games I've played. There are some hiccups, like Clairen and Maypul too good in the hands of passive players at low MMRs, but other than that every character is competitively viable and rewarding to play.t. Honda and Marisa player in SF6, god help me
>>732734778I'm never gonna play 2xko but the constant drama around roster sizes is so tiresome.You dont need a massive roster to have a good game
>>732743941>I love the balance!>posts big body gameplayah geez who could've seen that coming
>>732743902>still talking it up as being 4v4?Arcsys themselves literally calls it a 4v4 game
>>732742241Damn this is so embarrasing.
>>732743973I main midweights, though. It's not even my clip.
>>732744031Ok so your response is "I'm a golem that's sucking down marketing blurbs instead of actually looking at the game I'm supposedly interested in." That's an interesting one to have, and one that I will not entertain further.
>>732744160I accept your concession golem. Keep eating the slop
>>732743973Galvan and Krag are my strongfat husbando
>>732744215do not sexualize the beetle / MMX robot master rejecti don't even know how you would
>>732744191>concessionESL DETECTED
>>732744279>ESL calls other ESLlel
>>732734581>>732734778Another problem with the roster is that Darius is the only cool looking character. Ain’t anyone that’s worth picking as a second. Should’ve had Mordekaiser or Garen in too.
>>732741693It plays like degenerate nonsense except there's a few characters that were designed when they were trying to make an actually good game 6 years ago that got left behind and get shit on but will gaslight you into thinking the game has neutral if both are in the same match.
*saves fighting games*
>>732743510>>732743549Why not make a Dota 2 FG with an optional duos mode?
>>732734581>our netflixslop is so successful>let make fighting gameHow does this work
>>732744362Braum and Yasuo are cool
>>732744412Do black people only allowed for one hairstyle
i know they say hindsight is 20/20 but the moment i knew it's over was the reveal of the name and the fact they called the special buttons S1 and S2 instead of A and B. I knew right there that who's ever running this thing has no sauce.
>>732734581needed briar/gwen/female yordle instead of arcane troonslop
>>732743941IMO, the game is well rounded because it's a platform fighter based off Project M.
>>732734581>kills your fighting game>kills your highly acclaimed award winning show>kills his own spin-off gameIs there anyone outside of India that is a genuine fan of this corporate shill character?
>>732744612If only they released Vex with a bikini skin.
>>732744676Leffen, Sajam and Sonicfox
>>732744412>walls in a platform fighter
>>732744729So these threads are just going to be filled with desperate motherfuckers like you dropping those e-celeb names to feel like you're in the know from now on, huh.
>>732744819are kino
Dont care.Got my #ad bag
>>732744902>retroactively claims 2XKO was not good
>>732735680and? Dota2 is f2p and has 100+ chars for free. Riot is just shit company
>>732737557Deadlock is the only MOBA with movement mechanics and ultra high action. (excluding bloodline champions because its dead). Just the way source movement behaves is top tier. There is no game that is like deadlock not even close.
>>732744995Dota 2 also implements some of the most offensive microtransactions in the industry. They literally invented the battle pass with that game. 2XKO implements a mere fraction of the same sins.
>>732744995DotA is the exception and not the rule, and that's because Valve is private with unlimited money.
>>732745134Yes but they are all optional (ok dota + is fucking gay trash) RIOT locks gameplay behind payment
Reminder that 2xko is only a tag because they brought on Clockwork who convinced everyone to scrap everything and make it into a tag game.
>>732745173>cockworkEverything makes sense now
Running EVO doesnt make you a good video game dev?...
I find it funny Riot got robbed blind by the fgc people they hired
>>732745257Nope
>>732745257they made GGPO, gen alphie
>>732741767yeah it was 1000% a scam. When branching out into valorant, Riot brought in people who had experience with tacfps (e.,g. volcano, made basically all the good maps for CS), because they were a company that only knew ASSFAGGOTS. This ended up working out for them and they did the same with 2xko. unfortunately, fgc faggots are degenerate losers who dont actually play the videogames that they obssess over, and they ended up making a pile of dogshit. they should have been fired years ago, zero sympathy
>>732745087Source movement is so much fun in Apex Legends, TF2 and CS.
>>732745408Then why everyone is unhappy with 2XKO?
>>732734778Why tf is it a tag fighter? Instead of picking one of like 7, you pick two!? Idea just sucks. Incredibly high chance of symmetrical fight. i.e. uninteresting.
>>732740028great meme
>>732745598Clockw0rk convinced everyone at Riot to go all into tag team
>>732745343Based
>>732739943>>732740710Yeah they are so many obvious choices that are both popular and fit a good archetype that they just completely missed. How is there no fucking Akali or Galio or Zed or MF? What were the devs smoking, that Illaoi gets in over them. Such a boring choice, especially for a non OG character. Like fuck I wouldnt even mind a recent character if it were something that people acutally liked (gwen, briar)
>>732745858Arcane was a mistake
>>732745858Devs don't get to pick the characters. They get to pick from the approved list of characters, so only what Riot decides can proper cross-promote whatever else they have going on.
>>732745858There's an Illaoidev somewhere within Riot. She was in that Ruined King game too and had a strong deck in Runeterra.
>>732745858MF would actually fall under the repetitive group because she was in the RPG along with Braum, Yasuo, Ahri, Braum, and Pyke who also isn't part of 2XKO.
>>732741685Trails and Tales.
>>732734581clayton won
>>732746031Carolion designed her for 2XKO and got fired
>quotes tweet with player numbers while glazing itlmfao he's not being subtle
Oh man! I fucking slept! LUCK BUFFFFF!
>>732734581Should've had motion inputs, simple as.
>>732741196I dont know who to play anymore. I like percy in the vanilla version where things were straight forward but now with dashing moves and Ultimates I feel like im not playing the same game. Don't get me wrong, he's probably strong as he's always been.
>>732746129are you going to come to these threads and shill for fucking Clayton, huh
Just posting to say you're all dogshit and I would play tetris in your assholes with asuka in strive.>>732744160And this anon has a womb
>>732746316The most constructive post in /v/'s existence
>>732745967>>732745970I cant even blame them really for shoving in aracane shit even if I dont like it, since they are trying to reach people who maybe dont even play league. But that why the illaoi choice is so dogshit, nobody outside of invested league players knows her. And she's not particularly popular in league either
Imagine how much better the FGC would be if Mr Wiz wasn't touching little boys.
Can't wait for 2xko to plummet hard on the number of entrants after the layoff news so Strive and Granblue become third and fourth again.
>>732746316yeah we already know you want to play inside of mens assholes, you're a fgc fag
>>732746380Yeah like it or not Arcane is big with normies so it makes sense to throw Vi and Cait in there. Jinx is an obvious choice too since she's super popular.
>>732746389>railed up the FGC to drive away Dead or Alive because they brought booth babes>turns out to be child molester It's so over...
>>732746205I love Blazblue sprites.
>>732746589He never said what those Core Values were.
>>732744581S1/S2 to me reeks of realizing midway through development that 1 special move button isnt enough for their retarded characters. The entire game to me feels like they had a meandering, visionless development cycle, like they'd give a character fucked up stuff (like Ekko) and then add system mechanics to balance it rather than nerfing the devs' favorites.
>>732746707Clockw0rk didn't get fired and he's to blame the from this shit balancing.
>>732746412>rivals 2 that lowdire
>>732746652Those Core Values ™ were burn everything down and give all tournaments to trannies.
>>732746625Probably a weird thing to say but I like how imperfect the animations are, makes them look more handcrafted
>>732746256old capcomfags getting whats coming to them, it's just karma
>>732746783Not surprising, only cracks the daily peak of 1K concurrent players in a good day.
>>732746849Nobody cares about this schizo
>>732734581Unfortunately, i hope the game goes on for a few years to see if it can make a comeback>>732734778False, i fuck around all the time while only maining 2, also, I'd like it more if every match i fought AGAINST someone new>>732744362>Darius is the only cool looking character.Nah, braum and illaoi also look cool
>>732746412Invincible VS might be the surprise for Evo. Already these many players and the game is not even out.
>>7327445403 actually, braids afro or a fade
>>732735715Leffen should consider the rope.
>>732746412Get that 2XDQ out of the mainstage already holy shit.
>>732744676>not liking ekkoGay, he was awesome on release
>>732746783Not surprising at all, really.1.) Evo is expensive to attent2.) All the 2D fighting game brackets are propped up by people saying, "Vampire Savior, huh? Well, I know how to play Street Fighter, I can probably play this. :)"
>>732747035For sure it's getting all planned fighters for this year.
>>732747135Is Ekko suppose to be black male Tracer?
>no Tryndamere, Riven, Udyr, Shyvana, Lee sin, Draven, Fiddlefuckingsticks, any girl from the ultra popular K/DA group>instead we get arcane shillingNow it's too late and the whole project lost credibility.
>>7327471342XDQ will still have more players attending sets than Granblue
>>732734581>160 devs>1 character per yearabsolute madlads squeezed the riot paypigs for everything they couldBASED
>>732738067Didn't this game have Pyke? And he's the ine they dropped out from the fightan game?
>>732747219He's a punk who can rewind time, when he was released he had a mohawk, but I honestly don't know why it was retconned and made his True Damage skin his default look.
>>732747219I'm already Tracer.
>>732747443Pyke was in Ruined King, yeah. Does a shitfuckton of damage too, he was in my main party rotation for damn near half the game.
>>732747449>Ekko got revealed 6 months after Tracer is shown in OverwatchHAHAHAHAI guess this is fine, but hilarious regardless
>>732747128RIP Hax$
>>732741767Either they were fleecing the company or just grossly incompetent. Either way I find it hard to be sympathetic for a team to have such little to show for a decades worth of work
>>732737178Who actually is trying Deadlock for the first time? TKbreezy seems like he's been playing for a while.
>>732747758Diaphone showed interest, he quit his job last July hoping 2XKO would pop off
>>732734581>the team was supposedly cut from 160 employees to 80>the game took 10 years to develop because they restarted development 3 timesHow are they that incompetent? I'm starting to think cutting the dev team in half was the right move
>>732746823(Shhh! Don't let this guy know that Blazblue sprites are actually just rotoscoped 3D models)
>>732747631Grossly incompetent if we look at what happened to Multiversus
>>732747885oofis he not playing SF6, the actual esports fighter?
>>732747936Maybe he will stay on SF6, he's the most fucked out of them all.
Hey GBfags, I >>732741693 got this shit working now. Accidentally obtained every unlockable in the process which is kind of annoying, but I'll live.Who the fuck do I pick? Just to rattle off some mains, I use Blue Mary, Billy Kane, A.B.A, Anji Mito and Rashid.
>>732745134not one dota microtransaction affects gameplay, with this "game" the roster is tiny and half of it is unplayable, lmao. Did riot fire half of 2xk0s staff to afford more shills? you guys are fucking retarded
>>732748064Ironically enough, the fired staff were character designers, QA testers and the balancing team.
>>732747936I'm pretty sure he hedged his bets on getting saudibux from Fatal Fury, since that game had a 1.5 million dollar prize for first place and SNK World ChampionshipsHe did qualify for the event but tied for last place
>>732748126at SNK World Championships*whoops
>>732747890They might bounce back for Evo.
so are they still going to do that rework that was announced like 2 weeks ago?
>>732744676Nigger magic, Riot is learning the hard way they should be putting their money on hot blondes instead
>>732748287Yes
>>732748010Djeeta, Beatrix, Charlotta or any rushdown. I think Beatrix. Reminder that you play the f2p cracked means you have the demo mark of shame and no cheevos and you're part of the 20 people playing the f2p version.
2WeeksKO
OK K.O.
>>732748623Thanks, just getting an idea of who to try out first after I finish this tutorial since I didn't know the roster was this big now.I'm not worried about any mark of shame, and like I said, if I end up sticking with this I'll just get the full game, thing costs barely anything on keysites.
Does grub still ban you to the shadow realm if you play via the cracked free version? Remember enjoying it that first week or two where arcsys went full retard and released tbe full thing via the PC demo.
>>732748982>thing costs barely anything on keysitesAre you sure that's Rising and not the original Versus?
>>732748064Here was the question>why are characters paid in 2XKO when Dota 2 can afford to make them freeHere was the answer>because everything else about Dota 2 is soullessly designed around microtransactions Your post, then trying to justify such things, is irrelevant to the discussion. It wasn't "should it be free" or "should it be modeled this way," it's the question of "why isn't it like that," and the "why" was given: Valve gets their money elsewhere within Dota 2 with omega-whoring-out. The fact that you don't understand this, think that it's otherwise taking a side either way on the issue, and then calling anyone else "fucking retarded" is what is called "irony," you cum guzzling faggot.
>>732749289IIRC that was because people with cracked versions were using an outdated version of the game or some shit like that so the game couldn't match them with anyone besides other crackers, but it wasn't something done by Arcsys.
>>732749289Nope. The only downside on cracking the f2p version iirc is you need to replace the exe with a new one repeatedly everytime there's an update.
>>732748982
>>732734581This roster is so ass and I don't want to grind to find a character I actually enjoy
>>732740098This is funny because the FGC is suffering from active tag and simple input fatigue. They just pissed off both sides.
>>732742241what gender is this?
>>732734778when I worked on my first fighting game I was able to do a full set of animations for 2 characters in about 2 months. These mother fuckers barely made more than one fucking character per year of development
>>732749825basketball american
>>732746031She had a strong deck in runeterra for half a set and she wasn't even the most important part of her own deck. She was just a body bilgewater card in a strong Demacia deck.
>>732742241I generally don't care about community drama bullshit but them allowing umisho back is ridiculous.
>>732746193How do you teach a game to new players when you are a new player, is he trying to poach FemShep's customer base?
Should I even bother playing this? Don't want to invest time in a Doom eos game
>>732742241Expected troon behavior
>>732749961>in a Doom eos gamethat's every fighting game anon
>>732742241Every single fighting game has them it's not that surprising anymore now.
>>732749961Yes, worth it
>>732750020>>732750041At least riot didn't fired the shills
>>732734778but you play vs the entire cast>>732743959I don't want to have to fucking play a character I hate fighting every other game. A large roster makes it rarer to fight an unfun character unless they are ez mode meta. I really don't want to fight Teemo teams over and over.
>>732750108that's every fighting game anon
>>732750038It seems like it's just one community with the bulk of them
>>732750038gross freaks of nature polluting IRL events and hobbies makes me sad
>>732734581i really wonder how all of the people saying fighting games need to be f2p feel right now
>>732750136Ekko and Warwick kill Teemo quickly
>>732750313I don't want to play either characters. I really don't enjoy playing and/or facing 80% of the cast.
>>732749935TOs have brainworms for allowing this
>>732749825fried chicken
>>732749293Its Rising for sure, game is cheap as fug but I still don't like burning any money on a game I might not play.
>>732749960Sajam has been playing Deadlock off stream for a while. He already had hundreds of hours on Dota 2.
>>732737974>or back to SF6Did Sajam finally stop dick sucking capcoms slime rush slop? Fuck drive rush it ruined street fighter
>>732750297There's still a chance but attempts like 2XKO, Granblue, DOA and KI really makes the prespective about f2p greatly disowned.
>>732750590He got blacklisted LOL
>>732750616Why?
>>732750552>$15Come on, anon
i really like playing fatal fury but i hate not being able to talk about it ever because so many people are moral grandstanding faggots (or it's just the easiest way to not have to talk about the game i guess)
>>732745858Illaoi is le muscle mommy safe horny shit for normgroids, just without the actual sex appeal. So perfect to show off to suits
>>732750650>high appearance fees>personal dislikes from hiring staff>gets blacklisted from Capcom sanctioned events for SF5 HAHAHA
>>732750591Honestly this whole conversation boils down to questions about monetization and IMO Granblue probably does it best. There's a single game that you can buy, but they offer what's basically a demo version for free where the available characters rotate week to week. I do like how 2XKO makes all characters available offline as this means I don't have to worry about owning every character, and it is nice that you can unlock characters to use online reasonably quickly. Just anecdotally I unlocked Caitlyn in a few play sessions. Unfortunately the rest of the monetization is pretty bizarre and I can't help but wonder if that's what ended up dooming the game. $20 for a single character costume in an industry where $4-7 is the norm is insane. What's worse, you can't even guarantee that you'll be able to buy the skin you want unless you go for the outrageously expensive bundles.I really wonder if these price points and the rotating shop nonsense drove off people that might've been happy to spend $10-15 on blinging out their team, I know it did for me.
Chances that tekken season 3 fixes the game?
>>732750717CotW is great, don't let faggets dictate what you like.
>>732750846Yes
>>732750717>>732750863Nobody cares about that dead game
>>732750616How? He was their biggest shill last I played, did he really drop the act and stop pretending slime rush at round start is fun?
>>732750846Slim to none. I'm sorry to every Tekken fan out there but outside of a radical revision of the entire game's design it'll still be Tekken 8.
>>732750917that's every fighting game anon
>>732750846I wouldn't be so sure. They promised "Refinement" on the gameplay but all I see in the trailer is just giving new moves.
>>732750938He got blacklisted from SF5 events for being an insufferable fag and he's now pivoting to Deadlock. Won't even go back to SF6
>>732750842Granblue has the best monetization because it actually lets you earn any dlc for free by playing the game. Even the battlepass shit eventually gets put into the shop so you can spend 0 dollars to get the costume for your main.Meanwhile Tekken made the currency you earn completely worthless the moment they added a cash shop.
>>732750938In the 2xko video of today he said he was bored of sf6
>>732750552cheap in more ways than one, luhmao
>>732751074Checked cleared
>all my life I have always pick zoner characters >new fighting games basically made zoning impossibleIs there a worse feeling than being average?
>>732751267It's time to play granblue since the zoner is top 1.
>>732751049>Granblue has the best monetization because it actually lets you earn any dlc for free by playing the gameThis is true though it should probably be noted that actually gaining enough currency does take a long time. I did the math and IIRC it was something like half a year assuming you successfully did your dailies every day. Though this doesn't count weeklies or character level up rewards, so in theory it would be closer to a few months. But it is possible and I have bought characters with Rupees, they even basically gave away a character for Christmas last year.
>>732751404Looks nice I guess I give it a try
>>732751267wdym zoners? Like projectile zoners? Well every 2d fighter has plenty of those. Do you mean neutral zoning? You sound like a below average gamer at best. Like GiT GuD.
>Bamco fell off>Capcom half fell off but still undisputed king of fighting games>Eighting fell off>Riot fell off>Arcsys half fell off and half not(GBVSR and Strive)>NRS fell off>SNK fell off>Indie fighters? VariedThe future of fighting games people.
>>732751476>Though this doesn't count weeklies or character level up rewardsThe granblue friends I have all grinded other characters to 500 or something quickly by I think playing ranked. It's a free pass up to master now so it's easy to powerlevel multiple characters.
>>732751580More like>Bamco self-destructed for no reason>Capcom made a pretty fun game but forgot to balance it>Eighting relegated to the Kusoge mines (HxH was pretty fun though)>Riot didn't make a billion dollars in two weeks so they've decided to hang themselves>Arcsys surgically extracted all of the appeal from Guilty Gear but might bring it back with Tokon>NRS was never even good to begin with>SNK is being kept in the Saudi slave cages>Indie fighters basically don't existI saw some guy the other week saying this was the second golden age of fighting games. I fucking wish.
>>732751694This has to inspire the next generation of fighting games to not be kusoge
>>732751556he means projectile zoning. and it's much weaker in street fighter now that it's ever been... well outside of 3rd strike. fireballs are just not a good zoning tool anymore, they used to be the backbone of street fighter. >>732751267just play super turbo.
>>732751580>Arcsys literally has three current fighting games on the line including Tokon.Is it weird to say arcsys is the new Capcom? Capcom no longer have domination with having multiple fighting games now which I might be wrong. Someone please laugh at me.
>>732749289>>732749387Wait, the f2p+crack thing still works?That's hilarious
>>732751839
>>732751839SF6 is bigger than every game combined except Smash Ultimate
>>732751839I think it's a somewhat reasonable comparison. Capcom used to release a bunch of different fighting games even when they were more focused. I think of Tatsunoko VS Capcom in 2008, SF4 in 2009, then MVC3 in 2011. Since MVC:I they've only really had Street Fighter. Meanwhile from 2018 to 2023 Arc System Works developed Dragon Ball Fighterz, Granblue Fantasy Versus (And it's kind-of sequel Rising), Guilty Gear Strive, and DNF Duel. In the same time period, Capcom only released one new fighting game, Street Fighter 6. Hell, they're even the company with the Marvel fighting game license now.
>>732744540Come to think of it, I never actually see a nigger have that hairstyle in real life.
>>732751793>it's much weaker in street fighter now that it's ever beenJP and Dhalsim are still strong
>>732734581Oh good I was worried this was going to be about Shot One.
Rivals of Aether 2 is one of those games where I think>Do I REALLY want to play this?And then I end up playing for four hours straight. I appreciate that there are players who are willing to run 5+ sets, it's so much better than Bo3s on ranked.
>>732752054drive rush homogenizes playstyles a little too much
the whole 10 years thing is prob why it got trimmed10 years for jack shit and an already dwindling player base?ya gg
>>732752084Good game that needs to pop off this year
>>732747449Wtf is ten year long psyop to have every nigger have that hairstyle. Is this sort of secret gay-coded thing for niggers to give to there characters
>>732752054yea but there is so much mechanics to get past zoning now. not to mention every character has EX moves that they can just to just react to them anyways. like constantly fighting boxer with super. the game is not built for it anymore. which is fine. but i enjoy street fighter for the sweet science of the fireball war. without that it's not really something i care about
>>732752158I expect literally nothing until console release. Like maybe it'll receive attention thanks to Evo, but I doubt it. It just needs to end up in the hands of Switch 2 owners.
>>732751404Is this a mod?!Also, what controller do you guys use?Pad here desu
>>732752239Are Switch 2 dev kits even available? Nintendo is not sending enough dev kits to developers.
>>732752301Plenty of third parties and indies are releasing their games with Switch 2 versions so I imagine so, but before launch they were pretty hard to get. Maybe Nintendo is still being selective to who they send them out to, but more and more Switch 2 versions and games are popping up
>>732748010>Accidentally obtained every unlockable in the process which is kind of annoying, but I'll liveThis might actually convince me to try characters I don't usually, I hate having colors locked away, care to spoonfeed an anon? Would it work on the paid version?
>>732751404last I remember Metera was actual dogshit, what happened since then
>>732752736Like 5 straight patches of buffs. It just hit a critical mass of extra power on a character that definitely needed it to start with but somewhere along the line they went too far. IMO the breaking point was Version 2.00 where they reduced the startup of all of her horizontal projectiles, including her 5H. That and other top tiers got nerfed, many of which had favorable matchups against her.
>>732752736They buffed her everything over time. Ultimate Butterfly was the second best move in the game after Lowain's wheel and they just nerfed the wheel so now butterfly is the best.
>>732752736The game has kind of gone apeshit in terms of balancing. Lowain is literally one of the biggest menaces in the meta right now and Nier is bottom tier trash, it's ridiculous.
>>732748010Grimnir is the game's resident tornado homo. He's OP
>>732750616He didnt, he Just asks too much Money for commentating and so capcom stopped hiring him, which Is why he started talking shit about sf6 and all other commentators because they work for too cheap (for his standards)
>>732750219>only mexican flags in KoF
>>732750591I think the free to play fixation so many FGC guys had was a demonstration of their own disconnect from what casuals actually want out of fighters (or any game), which is casual content. SF6, despite its many flaws, has proven that all you need to do to get new people interested in your game is make a game where there’s more to do than just grind ranked, and they’re willing to pay for it too. Really, the only games that benefit from the f2p model are all either multiplayer team games or co op games, because there is an ineffable advantage to having the game your friends are playing be free.
>>732734778>>732744362>"League of Legends fighting game">no Shadow Isle rep>no Demacia rep (also lol Darius made it in but not Garen)>no Shurima rep>no Void rep>no Runeterra rep like Ryze or SEXCLOWN>no Targon rep>Ionia rep doesn't fucking have Lee Sin of all characters>lol oops almost half the roster is Arcane charactersWhat an insane use of 10 years of development
>>732752084repulsive char design
>>732734581I'm sick of every "hyped" game being called the heckin SAVIOUR of the FGC and other dumb shit.
>>732754554F2P fighting game only works if you have over 100k or more players at initial launch. Anything less than that will spell doom for the game unless it is made cheap like Korean MMOs where they don't pay California wages. This is what Maxshillmillian and Shilljam will never get and will never admit. Even right now Marvel Rivals peaked at 600k at is currently at 100k+ players per month which means the playerbase stopped increasing and will slowly decline.
>>732754624The chinger
>>732734581I would argue there's a high chance it was a scam and they just pretended to be working to milk wages.
>>732750219the country of Gay
>2xko dead>hate the marvel ipstrive 2.0 waiting room+deadlock for me
>>732745967arcane is the only thing i enjoyed from the lol ip. everything else sucks big dicks
>>732755686Strive 2 is on hold because of Marvel Tokon unfortunately.
>>732755686they will double down the retardation with strive 2.0
>>732755686
>>732735645I am so glad the game flopped and it is his fucking fault that I wanted it to happen. I am normally not like this, but the way he was a smug piece of shit surrounding the game when everyone was talking about its obvious flaws was so annoying.
>>732734981what a generic ass roster
>>732735645>"I don't want to go to Saudi Arabia because they're evil, they genocide gay people, they're sportswashing, they're bigoted, they hate women">"But if you wanna go it is okay :) I am not judging you :) I am not saying anything bad :) this is just my opinion :)">"But like I also think going to Saudi Arabia would be really bad... 'for me'..."Sajam basically pulled a complete "Fuck you, got mine" attitude because he has a viable streaming/youtube career and people who are trying to make it are getting paid to go to a big event. So he moralizes and acts like a piece of shit to them because he has money and doesn't have to go.
>>732754747>GarenHe literally has become the punching bag of the LoL community and people like Sajam. It honestly upsets me. He is probably in my top 3 favorite champs as is one of the most nostalgic ones to me. The very first skin I bought was for him. But if you ever talk about him it is:>LE GENERIC GOOD WHITE MAN KNIGHT HE IS SO BORING WE NEED TO ADD KPOP GIRL #258238
I don't know anything about League of Legends but Annie makes me feel some type of way....
>>732734581>Game is designed to be a 1v1 fighter>Have multiple fully designed characters ready to go>Genuinely ready to reveal and make it playable in closed tests>Retarded "Oldhead" FGC grifters speak up>*hits bong* 'Dude, we should make it a tag game that is so HOYPE! Mahvel baby!'>Make it a 2v2 fighter>Realize that basically every character you made for the 1v1 now needs to be redesigned if not scrapped>Game ends up releasing with 10 characters after 10 years>Fire the tranny who made actually fun/decent characters
>>732751074shouldn't have defended throw loops
>>732735645It is just his smugness about the project that upset me.>Gets told the LoL IP is not popular>Gets told that tag fighters are not popular>Gets told that the development team made a mediocre fighting game before>Actually fucking plays the game and can see the many issues>Can see that the community was basically dead from day 1>Spent the entire time hyping the game up and insulting those who gave even tepid criticism>Covered his ears because he was friends with the devs and they invite him to test shit>Now has to try to cope about how actually none of what anyone said was true it is just riot is killing the game for no reason
>>732751074Yeah, I mean I like SF6 quite a bit and I am bored of it right now. They patch the game like once a year and the characters come out too slowly.SF6 is great but to make a food analogy since I am american, it is a decent food joint you hit up regularly, but if that is all you had to eat and they never changed the menu, you'd get bored.
>>732753143>puppet character is broken at the start of the game>gets nerfed into bottom tiergoddammit, can we have one singular fighting game where this isn't the case
>>732735220>what is contrapposto
>>732751267Strive has serviceable zoning Axl is a solid limb zoner and they buffed the shit out of him so now he always can get HKD, he doesn't do anything too fancy, just really zoningTestament can just swing freely, has some really good fireballs that cover several large areas, more of a fireball counterpart to AxlVenom is a Stinger dispenser and filters people who can't dash block, the ball trajectories off normals are really hard to keep up with if the player knows what he's doingDizzy doesn't have strong zoning from the get go, but she can prevent people from walking on the ground and this makes her zoning tools much harder to contest. She can just prevent people from playing certain matchups if things go right.Asuka can still get exodia and chip kill people by turning the game into a single player bullet hell. There's a bit of counterplay before he gets to that though.Bedman? is suprisingly capable as a zoner, needle automatically tracks and the automatic projectile followup means you can swing your big normals to keepaway. Plus he has his weird 8 way dash, he can be incredibly annoying to deal withBridget, Faust, Unika have some zoner-ish stuff (long normals/projectiles)Ky's or Elphelt's projectiles are also decent, but it's more that they interact with the rest of their kit>>732752054JP's strength isn't zoningHe's got great normals in the close/mid-range despite being a zonerAmnesia is the best reversal in the game that can also work in some burnout loops (once again despite being a zoner)SA2 can lead to borderline unblockable setups, and you still lose a fuckton of drive gauge if you block it all (and he's still plus)Portal oki is a literal looping 50/50 in the cornerDhalsim is mid, you need insane patience if you want his zoning to work, and the reward isn't greatSagat gets way more reward off his big normals by comparaisonThe other anon is right, zoning isn't that good in SF6
>>732734981From left to right Standard fighter Standard cute animal girl"Cool" niggerStandard samurai Strong woman (or trans)Standard bald guy with mustache Harley Quinn clone n°23075588532246
>>732744995League of legends is shit but you can't expect a fighting game to work the sameIt takes 2 days and 10 matches to farm enough for 1 character
>>732734581fighting game fags drink all sorts of bad water to have the biggest dumbest delusions everimagine even thinking that an snk game could sell a milly, let alone 10 milly, and that's somehow "reasonable to believe"you fg fags can be really downright retarded
Yep yep, Clayton wonnered.
>Guys we should make a 2v2 tag fighter for our first fighting game, and one we want to market for new people to get into the genre withWhat the fuck are these people smoking? Just make a standard 1v1 fighter, 2v2 tag is not an entry level concept>But what about DBFZIt's fucking dragonball and arcsys, you are neither.
>>732757438btw this post wasn't referring to 2xko specifically unlike op and was meant to expand the scope of discussion
>>732734581CONCORD2KO
>>732757281>>goddammit, can we have one singular fighting game where this isn't the casePlay BBCF
>>732757281ENTER
>>732757281carl is literally one of the most annoying characters to fight against at high level in bbcf
>>732756997They fired the white guy with a PHD and kept the actual tranny that is obsessed with pushing dead fighting games people hate (DNF, BBTAG, etc.). Coincidentally 2XKO draws inspiration from both of those games and it's overall unappealing.
I dunno about you, but 2v2 would've worked fine, just have a big SoulCalibur-esque single player mode where you and a buddy use duos to beat up mooks
>>732754624https://old.reddit.com/r/Kappachino/comments/1r1ucwz/what_an_odd_thing_to_say/
>>732757565I don't know about that (really) but I do know that the person who made Illaoi, Blitz, and Cait got fired and those are the 3 characters that felt like genuine tag characters LOL. Darius straight up feels like a 1v1 character that they decided to keep for 2v2, for example.
>>732757616most normal people don't have friends who are even remotely interested in fighting games and you want them to have a mode where they play one coop with a friend
>>732757616I too enjoyed Guilty Gear Isuka
>>732757641I'm glad you sent an old reddit link, but it's still a reddit link so I'm legally obligated to call you a faggot
>>732757641>NuKappa
I‘m glad all the Ekko/Yasuo mains on the team got fired
>>732757645>Darius straight up feels like a 1v1 character that they decided to keep for 2v2, for example.I agree with your other point but Darius isn't even anywhere as bad as Ekko/Yasuo/AhriEkko having setups that completely prevent you from doing anything on wakeup, when the game's supposed to have rolls and DPs to make the oki less suffocating is proof the devs are fucking retarded
>hire an Eddie main for character balancing>he makes two of the most broken characters of the modern eraWho could have seen that coming?
>>732757648Have it be drop in or online
>>732757907I don't think Darius is OP. What I mean is that Blitz and Cait are like "We need to make tag characters" and Darius is "Can we give an old 1v1 character an assist?"Ekko is the dumbest character in the game by far and they were straight up retarded for letting him have so many hold my shit moments.
>>732734581This game could be good, but it runs like shit on PS5 at least. I've been playing fighting games since SFII came out in the arcade and this is the first time I've seen screen tearing in a fighting game. Also, with them announcing they're gutting the game due to feedback and then firing the dev team, this game will be the next MultiVersus. Either way, I stomped a bunch of brown people in the lobby to get Caitlyn, now I can stop playing until they patch this mess.And yeah, why is literally every avatar in the game brown? Is this just me fighting Indians and Brazilians all day? It would explain their lack of any fighting game experience and the netcode.
>>732754624>>732757641FGC faggots need to be knocked down back to reality. They have enough retarded fanbase to convince game developers to listen to their stupid ideas. If DSP, LTG and FChamp gets called out, then Max and Sajam needs to get the same treatment or else we will be getting more F2P and tag slop that fail in less than a year. You can't have shills with no spine be the face of the community. Look at No Man's Sky, if that game has the same fandom as the FGC then there won't be good changes because FGC faggots don't want criticism and would gladly live in an ever shrinking echo chamber.
>>732758410Also, anon, don't forget:2XKO is the buggiest fighting game I have probably ever played that was by a real studio. Yeah, like Hunter x Hunter is a buggy piece of shit but it has like 5% of the budget of this game.
I want to play duos with randos, but having to go into a lobby and spam invites at people to get a partner is gay. There should just be duos matchmaking, because as it stands, I'm just going to not do that and play by myself. And if I do that, I'd rather play a better fucking game. The one thing this game has going for it shouldn't be so fucking annoying to get into.
>>732758961Duos with randos sounds like a nightmare, how the hell do you coordinate tags?
>>732734581The current cope is that 2xko actually has great numbers for a fighting game because it was in the top 3 download f2p games in the us and no 10 in europe, but that's ignoring the fact most of the people that downloaded it uninstalled it after 3 matches which is what the riot post is implying
>>732734581why does the nigga have that cornbraid shitwhat was wrong with the mohawk
>>732757281Not one but two viable puppet characters
>>732734581>Fighting Games threadI bought a grip trainer because my fingers kept getting tired and its actually been helping a lot.Also I went back to GBVSR recently and Gran is still fun.>2xkoIt's not even that bad of a game, but it would feels much better to play if they just went with the ABCD button layout + tag and included regular motions. Having to do so many binds together is a pain to remember and doesn't feel as good. I'm also just realized the name is pre-abbreviated which makes it extra dumb. Imagine if DBFZ's name was just DBFZ.
>>732761683He's based on the arcane ekko.
>>732762974My grip trainer is in my pants.
>>732742463>How old is this image9th October 2023, more than two years old by nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QimMzCmvWpk>>732749935Agreed, but at least recent comment sections on tournaments/replays with umisho are filled with shit talking
>>732761683irl niggers (male) cry everytime they see a fictional character with a non-niggerish haircut
Finally settled on who I'm gonna mainly focus on in Granblue (also Seox and Beatrix), so thanks again to the anons itt for the info and shit.One more thing though, is 7000-8000 damage range about max damage for a combo without popping that near death super? Feel like I'm maxing out on what I can do here, but maybe I'm forgetting a mechanic or something.Gonna sleep on the choice, since I've spent the last couple hours checking out the roster, but I'll probably buy this game soon now, why not.
>>732763279*fictional nigger
>>732758710NMS is a big success story tho.
>>732763243Ah an Anila player
>>732734581If the initial roster were limited to 15 characters (à la Strive), these would be more or less my picks, based on league recognition, popularity, and overall compatibility with a fighting game.I feel like 2XKO doesn’t have a clear “face” to represent it (e.g., Ryu–Ken, Sub-Zero–Scorpion, Sol–Ky), and Ahri–Ekko didn’t make the cut. It baffles me that they didn’t include Garen for that role while already having Darius, and instead went for a more “diverse” roster (in every sense of the word), ending up with Arcane reps that lean into the most boring side of League lore imaginable. Like really, Illaoi over mf Lee Sin? Who did they think they were trying to appeal to?
>>732734581>>732735645BUT MUH MAXSHILLIAN THE KEK SAID TO JUST GIVE THEM TIME DOOOOD. THEY ONLY HAD 10 YEARS TO DEVELOP THIS GAME, GIVE THEM TIME.
>>732764319Ahri is clearly the face of League right now, but for some reason 2xk0 didn't lean into advertising her. A big mistake if you ask me.
Zoe and Annie would've saved the game at the cost of making discussion even more unbearable
>>732763303>Ilsalmao you definitely chose the right time to get the game if she's your favorite. She just got added to the game yesterday.
>>732763475NMS became a success story AFTER the fans criticized the original launch game for the bugs and lacking certain features found in the trailer. That's why I used it as an example. FGC on the other hand with their toxic positivity would rather ignore the criticism by labeling it as hate just like Max and Sajam said. So in the end their won't be good changes because the face of the community says everything is fine.
>>732750219>That one Mexican flag as Shang TsungBased pick.
>>732736468>Wonder how this game will do since MvC players don't like it but maybe that's good thing for the games success.It following in the same template of modern ArcSys games like Strive and GBFVS in which they are insanely boring to watch and spectate and the fact that its a 4v4 fighter but essentially works like a 1v1 with assists just drains any aspect of tension. As a Marvel fan why would I invest in this when Rivals exist? The fact that even Capcom didn't think bringing back MvC was worth it is already a huge red flag for this.
>>732764625That’s definitely true, but I don’t think that fact alone is enough to make Ahri one of the cover characters for promoting a LoL fighting game.
>>732750038>Every single...Troons cannot play KoF. Even the blue furry trash avoids it, KNOWING he will be bodied by BKR, Reynald, Bala and wont even reach the levels of ET or XiaoHai
>>732736776>>732736853If you haven't noticed with Strive's decline and GBFVS being essentially dead that nobody cares about ASW current slop anymore. Yes not even the return of DBFZ can spike interest because DBfags are top CONSOOMERS who buy everything on release then promptly fuck off until the next new product to consoom is release
>>732765176Really? Fighting game covers typically only have a basic bitch protagonist who oftentimes has barely any involvement in the actual plot. See: Ryu, Kazuya, Sol Badguy, etc.
>>732764319I haven't played League in ages (I have no clue who that character next to Ez is) but I somewhat agree. Garen/Darius should have been the Ryu/Ken of the game. Blitz was a good pick because he makes for the perfect grappler rep and is fairly popular. I'm still mad about Garen and Lux not being in the base roster. They did lean way too hard into Arcane reps. You cannot imagine my disappointment when Cait was announced.I'm surprised they didn't opt for Annie as a puppet character.
>>732765335>Sol Badguy>barely any involvement in the actual plot
>>732765395Depends on the game.
>>732765335Kazuya and Sol are very involved in the plots, what are you on about
>>732765335>Kazuya>not being the mainplotI really ABSOLUTELY HATE secondaries
>>732765439he's literally the guilty gear
>>732765335>Kazuya>Sol
Arcsysbros...we won...
>>732741545Nigga nobody was hyped for this even the faggots that watched Arcane and never played League gave a shit
>>732765335Do not say you play Blazblue and mention Ragna DO NOT SAY IT.
>>732765335>Fatal Fury has a protagonist so iconic that he essentially influence Sol>almost all KoF protagonist are involved in insane wacky plots that even DoA is influenced to make a crazy wacky clone saga too.>devil genes means that Kazuya is almost involve in all plots tooI guess you are the type who will say characters are just functions huh
>>732765471Wasn't Jin the main character of 3 and 8? Coincidentally the only Tekkens I have played so maybe Kazuya is central in more games.
>>732765668Who?
>>732765335Oh man..This is bad.
>>732765728>Tekken 1Kazuya>Tekken 2Heihachi>Tekken 3Jin>Tekken 4Kazuya>Tekken 5Jin>Tekken 6Lars and Alisa>Tekken 7Heihachi and Kazuya>Tekken 8Jin
>>732765634This will be Guilty Gear in 2008
>>732765859Oh thank god. Please stay not knowing about it.
>>732764319Pretty good list, maybe 1 more big body monster champ like Zac/Mundo/Maokai/Chogath. Unfortunately any hope of an actually cool game got scrapped in 2020 to bring us this mess
>>732756832Way to nail his mannerisms. Annoyingly passive aggressive.
>>732765871Interesting so there are myltiple protagonists just like SF. Thanks for clearing it up.
>>732766175Those multiple protagonists are all mishima.
>>732741196Granblue is pretty fucking good. It's interesting how the people who kvetch that it's too simple will never play something like Blazblue CF / Xrd / +R or complex fighting games, meanwhile Granblue is like the 4th biggest fighter.
>>732766247I mean it is basically a family drama.
>>732734581>No female Yordles or sexy monstersClueless devs
>>732754747>>732756878garen is a dumb nigger character for dumb niggersAxe is what a real man's hero is like.
>>732734581This actually pisses me off because I used to actually like league so I'm gonna armchair dev it.>1v1 fighter, tag fighters are garbage>Motion inputs with optional but weaker button inputs, industry standard>Focus on casual experience, as hardcore players will play things that they like playing>Out a lot of effort into making the movement not feel clunky>Focus on neutral rather than long combos, obviously>Get an art style that actually looks good and is easy to make new content with>No redesigns allowed, the base skin has to look exactly like they do in league of legends. No arcane redesigns either.>Skins have to be either sexy, funny, cute, or cool. This is basic and obvious but western devs have a lot of trouble with it.>Roster has an absolute minimum of 20 characters before launching>Roster has a good mix of character archetypes, both aesthetically and in gameplay. >Take some liberties with character kits if it means not flooding the roster with zoners.Launch roster:>Lee Sin>Riven>Viego>Yasuo>Garen>Annie>Jinx>Ezreal>Lux>Shaco>Thresh>Jhin>Kai'sa>Briar>Gwen>Zed>Sett>Ahri>Chogath>Jax(Minimum passed)>Aatrox>Mordekaiser>Katarina>Teemo>BlitzcrankI tried to pick based on popularity, variety in playstyle and aesthetics, history with the game, and how good they would work in a fighting game.
>>732750219Kinda weird that even before the Bridget shit or Strive was released, Guilty Gear has a lot of fags. Why is that lol?
>>732761683It's based on that Arcane show Riot shilled. Almost half the roster designs are based on Arcane.
>>732769947Strive is insanely easy and braindead game to pick up and play and was flooded with ex smash players and twitter casuals because of that. My personal theory about Bridget tranny retcon is that ArcSys themselves saw so many faggots and troons playing Strive so they decided to just pander to audience playing this game. Im pretty sure they didnt expected any autistic backslash about tranny retcon because of that lmao since they though playerbase would fully support that move due to their perception of how said playerbase looks like and positive response to Testament by said lgbt ghouls before that.
>>732769947Bridget was a crossdresser which is basically already a tranny as much as transphobic chasers don't want to admit itTestament was a skirt wearing weirdo gothVenom is gay Both Venom and Anji walk around shirtless with their mantitties outKy and Sol's rivalry is BL coded
>>732768158>I tried to pick based on popularityIts obvious you haven't played LoL for a long time since most of the characters you listed are just as bad as Illaoi.Like come on, Jax, Cho Gath, and Thresh? Lmao fuck off.
>>732770546I seen those tropes in some anime or similar media but they aren't completely filled with them. I guess fighting games in general amplified the autism.
>daisuke doesn't even want to make fighting games and just wants to make single player action games>every time arcsys tries to make a game that isn't a fighting game it sucks>gets mogged by 10 chinese guys reusing blazblue assets to make a roguelikeWhere did his life go so horribly wrong?
>>732766504no Vex, no buy
>>732770546>Ky and Sol's rivalry is BL codedIts literally based off Bastard manga arcs you retarded secondary troon just like a lot of GGs basic story/world building itself and designs up to Accent Core. Testament was based off very popular theme back then with rockstars and metalheads rocking that type of fit and hair you idiot. I agree about Bridget tho that character always was faggy as fuck and no one cared about him,literally lowest pickup rate across arcades and multiple home console releases and only one higher level player Hachoboo or whatever he was called and he fucking sucked balls too never won anything people played Kliff and Justice more despite comp ban. You're retarded but usage of word "coded" already gave that away.
>>732770546No.Go away faggot tourist.
>>732765330Didn't the new Dragonball MOBA flopped?HAHAHA
>>732771182I think arcsys can only do fighting games, giving their unique anime graphics to other devs and being a publisher.
>>732734581>everything MOBAs touch turns to shitLike pottery
>>BL codedMan. What a true nightmare it is to have your franchies crowded by faggots, acks and trannies, all of which are DELUSIONAL.
>>732765113Sony (and possibly Disney, too) probably forced this nonsense on ASW like they did to Capcom with SFV.
>>732764524https://x.com/PoltFan69/status/2021479882820382988Maximilian Dood self-reporting on being a shill
>>732771471It became BL coded when Daisuke decided That Man was actually a nice autistic catboy that did nothing wrong and was just obsessed with giving Sol a happy ending and completely raped the lore to make sure That Man did absolutely nothing wrong ever.
>>732771182They always wanted to make something different than fighting games. GG had multiple nuked spin off projects theres also Overture. They also made that sidescroller like Contra I forgot how it was called and BlazBlue started as a ActionRPG pitch too. They always go back to fighting games because everything else they tried flopped and that gay ass demon baby game will do so too so Drysuke will either go back to GG or he retires.
The roster choice is just bizarre.Where’s muh edgy le cool characters like Zed and pic related?I dont mind Warwick but they really shouldve leaned harder into the fan favorites at the start. Braum, Illaoi, Ekko etc are incredible misfires for a launch roster
>>732743703>There's so many hoops to jump through just to get a character approvedEvery dev team working for Riot has said they were given all the freedom they could ask for. 2XKO's team decided to turn it into a tag fighter entirely by themselves when clockwork came on and started fantasizing about a 2v2 fighter. There's also a possibility that you are, understandably, too quick to blame the corporation when the dev team was genuinely just bad at their jobs.
>>732758710Besides the usual trolling on LTG and DSP, Sajam and Max have been laughed at harsher than the aforementioned lolcows since the layoff announcement dropped. Max dead ass gave a meaningless lecture on active tag fighter history to calm down his army of dents and ended up admitting he didn't like 2XKO.
>>732771471If you look at old GG fanart/doujins from the pre-Xrd era Sol/Ky was definitely the biggest ship in the series. It only died after Ky married Dizzy. That being said fujos and trannies are not the same crowd.
>>732771670Don't get me wrong, both executives and the dev team are dogshit and I'm baffled clockw0rk did not get fired. Still doesn't change the fact that the current Riot CEO made the acquisition of Radiation Entertainment a decade ago and these layoffs coincidentally happened before the quarterly earnings report. They're doomed regardless if they were stupid enough to keep clockw0rk in the team.
>>732771663Sorry, the best Riot can do is characters based off Arcane and nobodys.
>>732772519If they made a good game they would've been fine like the tft and valorant teams. Fact of the matter is Riot decided to go the Valve model (because they are also filthy rich and can afford to), and give unlimited freedom to anyone wanting to spearhead a LoL project. They simply got burned on this one (and the MMO), but again they got success with other games so I can see why they tried.
>>732772519>these layoffs coincidentally happened before the quarterly earnings reportThey've probably been planning it for awhile after being disappointed at their progress, constant reworks, and player reception. The game has been basically out for months. It's not like it was a snap decision because a well received game didn't instantly take off. I mean, unless some Riot exec blow a fuse after one of the Cannon brothers came up and said they want to rework it yet again right after launch but I don't think I could really blame them for that.
>>732758074It definitely seems like there was clear character favoritism with devs and because the game had such a long dev cycle the characters developed earlier just got way more tools from feature creep.
>>732771182I feel like he only said Overture was his "true vision" for Guilty Gear since Arcsys lost a lot of their assets for Guilty Gear when Sega and Sammy merged.
The most insane thing about 2xko is that nobody thought naming it 2kxo was a bad idea.
>>732756832But the thing is he built his career without involvement in parties that promote genocide and slavery so what exactly are you arguing for here, that thise poor small streamers are getting paid by any means necessary? Were at the level of saying someone who went to go work for the orpham crushing machine is valid in doing so and the guy being smug that he never crushed orphans is in the wrong because of some shit he hyped up before?Theres not liking someone amd then theres turning into a dumb bitch because you dont like them so much
>>732773359They can't put "League" anymore because they basically retconned it out of existence lol
>>732773095It's in Riot's corporate culture to overhaul their games. Live service games make their money through engagement with whales. Reworks are suppose to get them invested in interacting with the game more and tricking them into believing the sunk cost fallacy. Therefore you have the League of Legends balancing schedule to keep the paypigs engaged.Bungie is famous for doing this, too. Just like Riot is experiencing with 2XKO, they're experiencing the same problems with Marathon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLbvMWEAoyY
>>732773828Shame that DoA is dead outside of the spin-off games. Koie Tecmo's greediness and DoA6's "vision" killed it.
>>732773075Can't wait for the Valorant looter shooter to flop faster than 2XKO
>>732756832Yet Sajam is fleeing to Deadlock
>>732773257Nah, literally as far back as Missing Link interviews he has said that he doesn't particularly care for genre but wanted to explore GG as a franchise in other genres. Daisuke is importamt for all the art and music he has contributed buy gameplay wise he has never particularly had deep involvement beyond "here's a character I designed, go crazy" to the actual game designers.
>>732764319I don't get how Garen isn't in when Darius is. The cover should obviously be Garen vs Darius or Garen vs Katarina what were they smoking with Ecko? Is he even that popular or are they only putting him in because he's a negro?
>>732743959They had to choose between dumping in half of LeL's roster or making a good gameThey stood their ground and refused to choose
>>732774109A friend has recently been trying to get me to play the game with him swearing the game is legit despite the tittiesIs he just blinded by the meatsacs or is there an actual nonjank game in this
>>732774671Dead or alive is actually a fun game it just had a bad rep. Doesn't help doa5 runs like ass on PC and doa6 is worse than 5
>>732774045>Reworks are suppose to get them invested in interacting with the game more and tricking them into believing the sunk cost fallacyThat works when people are already invested and have spent a long time playing the game to revitalize it. It does not work this soon after launch.
>>732765281I don't get why. They're autistic which is why they get into fightans so hard but why don't they gel with KoF? It's not super difficult or anything
Reminder katarina was in the game too at one pointthe ARPG (the top-down isometric game) is cancelleda party fighter like smash bros was tested and cancelledtheres others in the work that should have been cancelled but havent beenthe mmo just has a playtest last weekim convinced this company can only make mobas, and just barely at that
>>732774973to quote xitter, they should rename themselves to Riot Game
>Not on Steam>Not compatible with LinuxYep it's dead to me
>>732775331>lor is on deathbed>riftbound is just lor but physical with convoluted playing and application making it functionally stupid and not fun to play but card market being full of scalpers means profit will be high no matter what>wild rift is just mobile league of legendsvalorant exists and is unfortunately sucessful so in my eyes you have 2 games. league of legends, or overwatch+csgo
>>732734581Most useless developers in the whole industry.I have no idea why they have such insane budgets and such shit products.
>>732734581It's so funny that even the 2xko subreddit has turned on it and accepted that it's dead, like they knew and finally couldn't deny it anymore
>>732775585>overwatch+csgoI always think comparing it to OW is a stretch outside of the fact that there's characters with abilities. It plays absolutely nothing like it otherwise. It's very much CS more than anything. Most of the abilities are even literally just CS nades with a twist. I doubt you care but I feel an autistic need to point that out.
>illaoi and braumReally? I can get the others because of Arcane being popular but seriously
>>732775949i compare it to overwatch because of the stylings not the gameplay. overwatch gameplay is non-existent. i would know i played it in beta, dropped it on the spot and moved on. there is no skill involved and everyone is fucking retardedcs go has skill involved but i would not call the bar exceptionally high either
>>732773624>built his career without involvement in parties that promote genocide and slavery so what exactly are you arguing for here>Saudis own part of Capcom and Nintendo>Sajam was 2XKO's most stubborn shill>Riot Games is owned by Tencent>Tencent is one of the biggest tech conglomerates in China>Chinese domestic policy is an absolute police state that requires more money than their foreign security policy>Uighur genocideI don't get the moral grandstanding from Sajam. Let the starved retro gamers enjoy CotW. I like 2XKO. Would welcome Sajam to make his own fighting game without Saudi blood money.
>>732775748It's obvious the subreddit would devolve into this. They fired their internet friends and FGC namefags. Surprised they didn't poisoned the well pretending that the FGC was getting harassed by racists.
>>732775596Combofiend survived the layoffs against all odds
>>732746129Clayton is based af desu>>732746991The same people who think Clayton is a schizo think he is some legendary hospital hacker. Let that sink in. It always makes me laugh desu. You would think that it's a meme, but no there really are schizos that think he is a hacker in his spare time.
>>732777968>hospital hackerwhat does this even meanive only ever heard clayton himself say this
>>732775331Riot Goon*
>>732777968Fuck off, Clayton!
https://youtu.be/flc1kiCETdgReminder Clayton was considered a top player in every game he played while on his death bed, not by randos, but by every other top player. He's not only the greatest galaxy brain the scene has ever had, but the one who proved he was more than just talk and could really play too.
It will never not be funny that during 2xko's alpha testing these two events were less than 4 months apart.Guess they shouldn't have spent 10 fucking years fucking around.
>>732778489Game companies unironically need a full time Clayton employee just to tell the devs "that's fucking retarded don't do that"
>>732778250Rooflemonger built his entire brand off this saying this about Clayton. lmfao at one time he even tried to accuse Clayton of taking someone elses health record from google and making it his own. What's even more schizo is, for some reason some people believed him. He then challenged Clayton to go on live and show his health record on stream, and when Clayton did Roof ran and said that Clayton hacked the hospital and it's not real.
>>732768158Remember this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkOyG6iZueU
https://x.com/Rooflemonger/status/1073801409143980033Roof is really a different level of schizo. He thinks Clayton isn't the one in all of his images and it was someone else. Which is wild because you can see Clayton looking like he is on his death bed he looks so ill in videos from that time. Roofs greatest accomplishment is somehow he got everyone to believe him without looking at it yourself which would only take 5 seconds to see Clayton was telling the truth.
>>732778494>Tokon
>>732763303>GranblueHow can people tolerate this game? >66L shit>mandatory forced block button
>>732779225MK tendies
Amazing tred. Good year.
>>732779225the block button is bad thoughbeit
I wonder how two different companies (Warner too) can be so bad at squeezing fighting games trough services without adding a single needed service.It is that hard to look at the susceed of Street Fighter, Tekken and even Super Smash Bros and just copy that?A console game, with characters, stages and combos, nothing else is needed.Hell just look at Brawlhalla if anything, not even Ubisoft is able to kill that thing and they are the kings of bad choices.
>>732774417Lucian was right there as a cool nigga to play as (dual gun characters are alwasy cool in fightans)But no, the roster just HAD to be mostly Arcane slop
>>732780142Multiversus was based on Brawlhalla over Smash and Tony Huynh is Riot Games alumni.
>>732744031stop being retardedTokkon is just a different flavor of KoF
>>732780405Worse, it's nu-Marvel shit
>>732780142multiversus is the story of how having every advantage in the world doesn't matter if the game itself is complete dogshit on almost every level. Didn't even need to be exceptional or anything but merely competent and it couldn't do that. It's sort of amazing how bad it was
>>732780572Riot alumni all over Multiversus btw
>>732780142Free to play games have a higher spending revenue potential.With those games you listed. There's a set maximum dollar amount you can spend on those games and get all the content. With set additional dlc being another stop gap. But there's a hard limit to amount of money a player can spend on the game. So riot saw that and went with free to play to get whales to buy 20 dollar skins and overcharged for shit in game.It cost 10k riot bucks to buy a single fighter in 2xko. That's 10 dollars for a single character. They're saying tacily that their game is worth $110 just for the base roster.Western free to play games are the devil and you should never trust new ones.
>>732779754>thoughbeitKYSAnyway you're forced to use it. You can't play with classic block only in Granblue. Some characters have crazy crossups and it's not realistically possible to block them.
>>732781539>Some characters have crazy crossupsno they don't lolcrossups in this game are very mundane and are better answered by mechanics such as rolls
