>NOOOO YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO SYMPATHIZE AND SAVE THE RAPING, PILLAGING MURDEROUS BANDIT LORD WHO MADE A DEAL WITH THE DEVIL BECAUSE...BECAUSE HIS AUTISTIC WIFE LOVED HIM, OK???fuck outta here, CDPR. The DLC was so good until that point too.>inb4 NOOO GAUNTER IS THE ONE WHO MADE HIM EVIL!!!wrong. Why the fuck do you think he's called "Master Mirror"?
David Beckham
i saved him because he looks cool
>supposed tois this how normalfags go through life?
>>732757274I would gladly give him up to GOD but all his rewards are dogshit and there's a Viper sword in that riddle challenge level which I'd rather have.
humans > devilssimple asinto the well you go you bald SHIT
Man made his bed. Fuck you buddy.
>>732757274It's been a while but don't you choose whether to side with him or not? Wtf do you mean supposed to.
>>732758209>supposed toEven when you're allowed to choose sometimes the writers will make it very clear that certain choices are simply 'wrong' and give inferior outcomes to the choice they wanted you to go with.
>>732758314even so gaunter is literally the devil man, men can be flawed but evil is evil
>>732758209I thought so too but the game makes it very clear saving him is the right choice
What I like about Witcher 3 choices and overall CDPR games choices is that they don't give you a kiddy karma bar where blue is nice guys and red is bad guys, like for instance in the Mass Effect gamesThere clearly are choices that gives a far more positive outcome, whether in main quests or side quests, but you still feel in control of your moralityYesterday I did the Towerful of Mice quest, and I had the worst outcome possible because I was a gullible retard (brought the foid ghost to her lover and she turned into an evil spirit and slaughtered him at his house, disappearing next)
I saved him because he looks like David Beckham and has a cool Norf FC accent
>>732758482nta but..I understand opposing Gaunter as Geralt, but as the player I see Gaunter as another player in the world.Just like me, he's able to manipulate time and space, dictates who lives and dies and controls random people that might as well be NPCs in his eyes.Who am I to hate this guy that treats the world of the witcher like a sandbox? When that's what gamers do anyway?
All the good loot is in the mirror world, O'Dimm only gives you shit. I don't save him, I enrich myself.Also is there an explanation to why O'Dimm can't tell you were Ciri is, other than it breaking the main quest line?
>>732758954unique way of looking at it for sure, kinda requires full suspension of disbelief to look at it that way so I'm not sure if it's the intended effect the character is meant to haveI like seeing it more as a complete unknown to everyone in the world including geralt, the revelation of greater powers at work kind of thing
>>732757274>rapinghe didn't rape women thoughbeit
I saved him because tricking the devil is a reward in of itself
>>732757274Gaunter is the kind of true evil Geralt can't ignore, breaking curses is Geralt's favorite part of the job, and by breaking the heart of stone does Olgierd actually feel the weight of everything he's done, it's the only way he can be truly punished for his actions.
>>732757274It was the women that raped him because of his cool facial hair.I saved him because of that too.
>>732759514Is this explicitly stated in the game?To be honest, him raping at least dozens of wenches wouldn't be out of line. I suppose that's the bare minimum for a person to become numb to such activity since nothing satiates him anymore.
>>732758592how so? I let him die every time
>>732760120The journal entry says something like "Geralt could do more than let him die"
>>732757274Best ever RPG expansion pack. Much better than Blood and Wine, as cool as it was to get a whole new region and culture.
>>732757920it is. 'allowed to' as well.
>>732757920>>732760458pretty much what i think whenever someone is criticized and they start going "ohhh so you're saying I'M NOT ALLOWED TO-"
>>732758784>Towerful of Mice questThis quest sold me on the game because I swear to god you can start it accidentally by just walking onto the island with no prerequisite and when this ghost appears it feels like you're actually seeing things in the corner of your eye it was cool as fuck.
>>732757274>fuck outta here, CDPR. The DLC was so good until that point too.Just take your infinite vodka and let him get fucked.
>>732757274he looks like a nortubel character
>>732760742There's a lot of side quests that are dependent on main quests and vice versaAlso a lot of quests in general that are missable because you already did an earlier quest and things like thatReally makes it feel like there is a lot of branching off going on, even if it's minor shit
You didn't save him cause hes an assholeI saved him cause I wanted to fuck over a godlike being
I fed him to O'Dimm because hes an asshole
>>732760069He gets mad when one of his men gropes the manor lord's daughter at the start of the DLC so raping women likely isn't his thing
>make deal with the devil>the result of the deal is that you no longer feel guilt>over time you forget the moral boundaries you hadI think he's sympathetic because he's crippled by his wish and that warped him over time.You can't say whether you can stay a good person under these conditions.
>>732760629I saved him cause i want to fuck over a godlike being.>Be Geralt and get your dick wet with Emhyr, the perfect woman in all of history.>The best part is you arent even fucking her but she's still inside of you while you have sex with another succubus named Lilith who has been following you around for centuries because you're such a good man.
>sell him to the devilMiss out on some content>don't sell him to the devilGet additional contentShrimple as that.
>>732757274ok, I will
>>732757274>you're suppoesd toIt's an RPG, do whatever the fuck you want, you mongoloid retard
the reason why the ending is bullshit is because you don't have the option to outwit O'Dimm and kill Olgierd in the same scenario
>>732757274Shani being killed by O'Dimm if you outwit him is a great idea. Shouldn't have been scrapped.
>>732757274>one side is a eldritch demon who twists peoples words to harvest their souls>the other is a regular bandit guyHmmmm....
>>732757274>being an ungrateful shit Master Mirror should have not intervened and get you killed by Ofiri soldiers for murdering their prince, cool.
Why didn't Gaunter just lure Olgierd to stand in a puddle on a clear moonlit night?
It's a real shame the Shani dying/Save Shani part was cut.
>>732757274I just think it's neat to have people owe me their lives.
>>732757274nah, if he got bent, i wouldnt give a shitbut sticking the middle finger to that smug demon is fully worth saving his assif i could screw over both, i would
>>732757274I liked Gaunter, but he's not hurt from letting oli live. It was just like losing a card game. I solved his riddle and we had a good time. alas, I won and my prize was letting this idiot die a natural death. He made me laugh so he gets that much.
>Witcher 3>morally reprehensible men can be redeemed if they actually really loved the wife that they abused>pure and simple boys who did nothing wrong have gruesome deaths and get tortured post-mortem what did the writer of TW3 mean by this?
>>732763801its true to life
>>732763801shit happensnot everything is a "message"
>>732763801life isn't fair
>>732763801I cuck this guy as Ciri every playthrough
>>732763801Sometimes bad things happen to good people for no real reason.
>>732757274So no one has a shot at redemption? Who are you, the anti-christ?
I killed the succubus in Skellige because lol
Poor thing
>>732758314>>732758592Nah, I turn him in for the fancy saddle every time. Gaunter plays straight with you, and he even gives you a bonus on top of that. He's alright in my book
>>732763107>>732763484That wouldn't have made sense for Gaunter's character though. Shani wasn't involved with any of Olgierd's shit, she was incidental because of Geralt. O'Dimm only screws over people who are either rude to him or dumb enough to cut deals with him (or are directly related to the wishes of people who do), and Shani doesn't fall in either camp.>>732763127One side is a guy who got you out of a fix and just wants you to repay the favor, and is even willing to reward you for repaying it. The other got you INTO said fix for no reason other than petty spite
>>732765697>That wouldn't have made sense for Gaunter's character though. Shani wasn't involved with any of Olgierd's shit, she was incidental because of Geralt. O'Dimm only screws over people who are either rude to him or dumb enough to cut deals with himsay that to the random drunkard who Gaunter killed for no reason
>>732763484It would ruin the choice. Right now it's split fairly evenly between people who save him or people who let him eat shit, but can you imagine if the choice was between Shani and Olgierd? Complete nonsense choice, everyone would just save Shani.
>>732765697He fucked over that drunk, that woman in Blood and Wine and a Professor
CDPR peaked with the Gaunter stuffIt's only getting worse from here
>>732757274It's actually a good plot
anyone who blames the debtor for taking money is a kikeusury is a sin
>>732765073wife
The game makes a point that Olgierd's heart hardened (they literally use the "turned into stone" term) as a side effect of his immortality and dealing with O'Dimm.The forays/raids were completely normal back then and it was basically a way of enforcing law by nobles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ForayThey could go overboard and did enjoy them a bit too much though.
>>732763801Did he rape ciri when she was sleeping?
>>732757351Zoomer moment.
>>732757274I kill him every playthrough.Demon roach is awesome.
>>732771082I didn't know demon roach was an option
>>732773958Yeah she's the best version i recommend picking the saddle.
>>732757274The devil is trying to fuck with you. You ruin his game and reject his deals. No moralfagging needed.
>>732774504The only thing gaunter does to you is brand you and then he removes it.he never does you harm and is the most honest character, i side with him always.
>>732774783i hate your soul you are the antichrist
>>732775251Doesn't your jewish god tell you not to hate?
>>732765056If it was tw2 you would've been able to fuck her.
>>732757274He's an evil man but a lot of that wouldnt have happened if not for Gaunter O Dimm, Master Mirror is worse than him which is why you should never side with him
>>732763107I would like to give her some "white honey" if you know what i mean.
>>732762339This.
>>732763801Yeah? And what happens to him is portrayed as truly terrible, the "message" if you really need one is good men suffer.
>>732757274Well the choice was either let Odimm win or beat him at his own game. Geralt wouldn't let him win regardless if Olgierd was an asshole. Besides Olgierd wasn't any worse than any other bandits Geralt has made deals with. He was just immortal. Now hes not immortal and will probably die if he tries to keep being a bastard.
>>732757274Sorry what? I can't hear you over the sizzling of hellfire.
>>732777950elaborate
>>732783163sex sex sex SEX SEX AEX SEX SEX SEX SEX sex sex sex till i cum in her
I save him not because I give a shit about him but to fuck with the devil man
>>732783385https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAHGoFeljHI
>>732783843:)
I won't even consider helping a demon steal a man's soul.
>>732757274Olgierd is mostly an evil ruffian with some personal code, but he undoubtedly also got fucked over by a much greater evil. Personally, I'm just a sucker for redemptions. Always loved stories where bad people admit the weight of their sins and change their ways, suffering penitance in an attempt to redeem themselves. And though Olgierd can't really feel regret while under Gaunter's spell, he certainly does seem to once you free him from it. So I find him to be sympathetic. But it's understandable if you choose not to interfere instead.
