What was the point of no return? Hard mode: not meet your match.
>Point of no return>Shows up to /v/ to ritual post about it
>>732758714>Hard mode: not meet your match.That's not a very hard mode at all since the correct answer is Mannconomy.
>>732758714when they
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>>732758714Mannconomy
>>732758949based post.
>>732758714meet your match
>>732758865>>732758882these
>>732758714End of the Line, if you know what was originally planned for it vs the lazy way out that they took
>>732758714>>732758859Mannconomy was the beginning, but the workshop was the actual point of no return, because that's when Valve stopped giving a fuck and just filled updates with user-made slop
>>732758714For me, Gun Mettle ruined everything about the game and its economy.
Also all you faggots pretending not to be free to play fags who started playing a year after mannconomy and cross game trading are gay and also retarded.Buying hundreds of dollars of Steam Games with TF2 hats was the shit.
I enjoy TF2 and continue to play it. I enjoy matchmaking and casual.
Mannconomy and quickplay
>>732759685uh oh... paging u/ZestyJesus
The game died with jungle inferno. It just hammered the final nail in mym's coffin, making some weapons useless to this day. RIP bison.On a tangential note, TF2Classified is fun.
>>732759492/this>Was originally also going to have a list of community-contributed weapons (Afterburner, Viewfinder, etc.) added to the game.>All of them were scrapped in favor of porting CS:GO's weapon skin system AND item grades to further monetize the game.>Some of said items were even left in the update page by accident.>Also enforced disabled Sprays in Valve servers by total accident (right after enforcing sv_pure 1 the year prior), and hasn't re-enabled them since.
Quickplay and the moving away from focus on dedicated community servers. Valve servers were a double edged sword.
>>732762695>unboxing doesn't automatically produce a strange versionThis really irked me.
>>732762956This, they should never have fucked around with the server browser, balance patches and whatever are inconsequential in comparison to making it difficult to even play the game you actually want to play
>>732758714Love and War
>>732759428Mannconomy was the start and also the point of no return. From that moment, free to play was a certainty. The playerbase would change forever. It would be less casual and more competitive. Microtransactions would define the game's identity and influence the rest of the industry. Once they made that step in 2010, the rest became inevitable.
>>732759492>For me, Gun Mettle ruined everything about the game and its economy.If you valued the "economy" then you valued a game that was already ruined. You should perhaps consider suicide because the world is better without you and your shit taste.
actually the no return point was f2p, which was influenced by Mannconomy but this is when player quality dropped irreversibly and the tight knit communities in dedicated servers got polluted by children and other undesirables like hackers taking up slots, ruining the original experience.
There was none, I'm still playing and enjoying it to this day.Get fucked, doomposter.
>>732758714Classless Update
>>732764491>ifFuck off, faggot.
>>732765131I too still play the game but that somehow makes me not allowed to criticise it?
>>732762956on one-hand, servers suffered from lack of new bloodon the other, the server owners and admins can be assholes controlling the game to their whims
>>732767718>point of no return thread>look inside>OP returned
>>732758714Not having a meaningful update in eight years.
Quick PlayCheaters were spotted and terminated on custom servers by owners/admins. Matchmaking let them fester
>>732768605heh
Depends what is meant by point of no return.Item drops were the first big red flag that Mannconomy was coming. Valve were already planning on making a big economy with the game and item drops were the first step to that.Really even having items be unlocked with achievements was a mistake. Valve should have had all weapons available to all players as a standard.
>>732758859I get why people keep saying that, but at least it didn't irreparably fuck over the most basic way to play the game.
mannconomy
>>732758714mann vs machine is when I personally checked out for my own reasons, but I'm pretty sure it's because they did some weird stealth change to the server browser that made it worse and I stopped caring.
>>732759428Community made maps are superior to valve made ones.
How can their be a point of no return when the game is in a better state than it was a few years ago?
>>732771937By still being worse than it was before the point of no return.
>>732771374I love madotsuki so much I wish she was real.
>>732771937Don't get us wrong the game is definitely better than 95% of modern slop but it's well past its golden age but not just due to its age but due to how jewed and bloated it has become in recent years. It was a mix of the time and the state of the game that made 2007 - 2011 -3ish the best period to play it in general. Everything afterwards is decay, also, it's likely still more than half the "players" are really just idle bots exploiting the economy.
>>732762956erm you can't say that quickplay was basedpilled and we totally never viewed people using it instead of the browser as retarded toddlers, no sir!
>>732758714tough break
>>732759880If I were Epstein rich I would pay to have that guy erased.
>>732773343wish that online game wasnt so boring
>>732773538You just want to complain. Nothing you list there is really a valid problem.>bloatEither game keeps getting updates, or it doesn't. People are complaining about both.>JewedIt is the least jewed fucking game. It isn't like so many others that demand you pay for a battle pass ever 3 months. You can play for free, forever. You can even trade for items if you want them.> more than half the "players" are really just idle bots exploiting the economy.How does ruin your gameplay?
>>732774193>why bloatedRuins visual clarity and made the game stuttery until recently with 64 bit, also the base graphics and animations got downgraded to compensate. I put balance into this category which completely neutered the game.>jewedValve has no further incentive to work on this game since the community makes them millions on their own, most new items also expect you to spend money to obtain them and are FOMO bound.>botsIgnoring the ones that just cheat and ruin games with sniper, what this really means is that there are barely any of the og players actually playing and instead lobbies are filled with ephemeral f2p players that don't talk, the sense of community that defined the early game is gone forever.
>>732774875>Ignoring the ones that just cheat and ruin games with sniperRight, the fact those have been largely cleaned up is why the game is in a better state than it has been.Bots that just farm items are... an interesting facet of the game economy more than anything else. > lobbies are filled with ephemeral f2p players that don't talk, the sense of community that defined the early game is gone forever.I wouldn't agree with this. Playing in casual there are quite a number of regulars I bump into, in addition to the plethora of new players that are trying the game for the first and only time. I bump into youtubers from time to time. The game has managed to keep a sense of community better than most. I have people add me to friends from trading and from casual lobbies. This one really may be a skill issue.
