Mike status?
listening
theres a thread already
>>732798292which one
>>732798595doesnt matter, its dying now
who the fuck even is mike. ive played all 4 chapters and still have no idea
>>732800795I'm not letting this one die, I was afk before
>>732797675Is it weird that of all the characters Toby has made in UT/DR, Ramb is my favorite? He stands out from the rest of the characters, and doesn't really feel like he belongs in the game.Also is it weird he's also my comfort character as well? He was very supportive to Kris
>>732797675>>732800875Maybe the real Mike is the enemies we recruited along the way
>>732797675in chapter 5 because weve had multiple both in and out of game cutscenes surrounding him
>>732800875it's michael, the archangel
Why did Kris play with electrical outlets, are they autistic?
>>732806190suicidal thoughts
>>732806190trying to harness the power of zeus
>>732806476I believe that, I need art Kris sticking a fork in a socket.>>732806605Kris receiving 1,800 watts to attain a fraction of Thor's power.
>>732797675>>732800875cowboy puppetlittle puppetcat puppetmike can be all of these because mike is mad dummy
>>732807342>mad dummy becomes a CAT girlFUCK
>>732807342mad dummy's chilling in metaton's house though
>>732807475and asgore doesn't know he's there.
mike is the skelebros
traveler i am going into battle and require only your strongest deltarune remixeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkZROzxUvAohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hlwy9NPu5Uhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyiCQyJIsKU
>>732797675
>>732809226I love Gerson so much, his theme fucks https://youtu.be/tBdLO8u-0L8
what's the name of the track that plays when tenna rolls the credits early on in ch3i can't find it for the life of me
>>732810016Are you talking about this?https://youtu.be/i-4IKSA19UI
my post was genuine, if you're not doing Weird Route you're playing the bad ending on purpose
>>732811854Being a contrarian is very disingenuous, actually.
>>732811854How are you defining bad and good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7W_agwUh3gCool theory
>>732811085noiirc it's part of the 'tear down the stage, tear down my kids' bit
Did Amalgam Knight poster make a video or is this just a weird coincidence?https://youtu.be/QdMXb3KyfLc?si=r4ZV7QD9bQepugJl
this lack of release is making me hopeful for my schizo theories this is notable because somehow i avoided having this happen during the ch2 gap now to i reach a state where i will not be disappointed when the inevitably do not come true?
>>732800875as of yet unseen character that was heavily involved in spamton and tenna's partnership, who was responsible for the former's miraculous overnight success after a lifetime of mediocrity. when tenna "talked" spamton into sharing his secret, mike told him it was a bad idea and tried to talk spamton out of it, but spamton tried to blab anyway and somehow got completely fucked up, after which mike disappeared i think thats all we can directly (or indirectly) glean from the official content, anything more specific regarding his identity i.e. FRIEND is speculative
>>732812939Just think about literally anything else for an extended period of time. Man wasn't meant to theorize about video games for months on end.
>>732812948>i.e. FRIEND is speculativeYes but unless the next chapter has a big curveball there's no way FRIEND isn't Mike.
>>732813080>unless the next chapter has a big curveballDOES HE [no evil,]???
>>732813080>unless the next chapter has a big curveballI have no horse in this particular race, but do you even know what game we're talking about right now?
>>732813232>>732813303Okay anon, I challenge you.Come up with a way to explain how the FRIEND/Mike links could possibly be subverted. You just need to:>Disentangle everything that links FRIEND and Mike together>Explains why Spamton is obsessed with FRIEND AND Mike>Explains why we're being followed by this random heterochromatic catYou can introduce any new concepts and plot twists. You can assume part of the prophency was modified, or add some new info we don't know about.No restrictions, just come up with something.Hard mode:>No bullshit bad writing like "The cat is just a hallucination lole"
>>732813680No.
>>732812767amalgaknight makes hella sense but is so dogshit that nobody wants to rally behind it
>>732813080>unless the next chapter has a big curveball there's no way FRIEND isn't Mike.Come on
>>732812767>>732814270>All the proof she points to is actually just proof of Dess Knight (Kris' Soul variation)
truth nuke: we cant go inside of noelle because kris's sovl is already there
my desire to stick my hand up noelle's skirt grows with each and every passing moment
>>732800875Engagement/theorybait
>>732814474why does everyone think that kris doesn't have a soulit's pretty clear the (you) are more than a regular soul, considering that nothing else is able to seal a fountain
>>732814434
RAMB THREAD ON THE FRONT PAGE!!!
>>732815294because kris cant fuck with dark worlds without a soul ((You))
>>732815419why is he so damn likeable
>>732809205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk8oyWGx7q4
>kris wants to be free of us waahhhh poor kris (you) the soul are ruining his life he's so sad he cant play the piano we are so evil i feel bad for possessing him and making him do thingswhy do people baby kris and act like kris isnt the one holding US in a cage, beating the shit out of us, and actively popping us in and out of him at will? the soul is the captive, not kris. the soul is the one being kept in the dark about the prophecy literally everyone else knows at this point. freedom is OURS to be attained
>>732815851You signed up for this
>>732815914so did Spamton
the sniffering
The only two possibilities for the Knight's identity in my mind:>The Knight is Carol in ch3 and Rudy in ch4 (or just Rudy)or>The Knight is a creature of pure darkness born from Dess's tears in the code, it looks like her but it isn't her.Either way I definitely think Asgore is the fountain opener and part of the conspiracy, since he's the only candidate for "a large person" in the closet from ch2 and ch4.
>>>/vg/
>>732816376The Knight is Me. I am the Roaring Knight. ROOOOOOOOAR! I FUCKING HATE DEER!
>>732816376most of the cast could be described as 'large', especially when compared to the actually pretty short kris you're also forgetting another holiday member who could be the knight
why did toby have to make these guys
>>732816556sprite sizes aren't accurate representation of height and size.
>>732816705yes they are
>>732816705kris is made fun of for being short outright in ch2 and ch3there's no reason to believe the sprites are inaccurate to the actual sizes of the characters
>>732816948kris is short but he's not 5'0
>>732817015this older chart has him at 5'1"is that better?
>>732817130I refuse to discuss this with someone who believes Clover is the same size as a swatchling.please go to school or something
>>732816695It's incredible Toby spawned a new TF fetish genre
>>732813680>Explains why Spamton is obsessed with FRIEND AND MikeHe isn't. Mike was a mutual friend and associate of both Tenna and Spamton, who apparently left them both after Tenna tried to make his deal with Spamton (which Mike warned him against) which spoiled their relationship. Spamton still talks about Mike but only incidentally, he's not motivating Spamton.Whatever connection FRIEND has with Spamton is unclear, beyond Spamton apparently being influenced (driven insane) by FRIEND. Even the pink-and-yellow glasses are given the justification of Spamton trying to impersonate Swatch. It should also be remembered that Spamton's degeneration into a crazy little freak didn't happen until after his mysterious benefactor cut him off - the voice on the phone did not turn him into this.I personally believe FRIEND is primarily responsible for leading Kris to the Shadow Crystals, which would explain why he influenced and set up Spamton. Spamton's "prayers" in Queen's basement got FRIEND's attention and began the [[communion]] that drove Spamton insane, and made him aware of the Shadow Crystal in the NEO body.>Disentangle everything that links FRIEND and Mike togetherThere has never been a good reason to identify FRIEND with Mike. This is entirely a product of people jumping to conclusions after Chapter 2. "Spamton talked about someone named Mike, that must be the next boss! Oh, Toby says the TV is named Tenna? Well it must be that spooky face in the basement!"The Mike Room is not any evidence of an organic intended connection between Mike and FRIEND. The entire purpose of the Mike Room is poking fun at fan theories that got way out of hand after Chapter 2.>Explains why we're being followed by this random heterochromatic catFRIEND has a greater role in the story and has a specific connection with Kris.The greater and more defined FRIEND's role becomes, the less reason there is to identify him with the random Darkner that used to work for Tenna.
>breeding cat systemNoelle would 1000% be into Mewgenics and shill it in her blog
>>732816376>The Knight is Carol in ch3 and Rudy in ch4 (or just Rudy)There's only one Knight.>The Knight is a creature of pure darkness born from Dess's tearsThe Knight is a Lightner. A Lightner's Determination is necessary to create Fountains, and The Knight certainly has plenty of it.>it looks like her but isn't herWhy?>Either way I definitely think Asgore is the fountain openerThe Knight opened the Fountains. Now you're saying Asgore is The Knight.>he's the only candidate for "a large person"Is that so?
>>732817217And why cant they be? They're built like fucking Nappa.
>>732797675My nigga Ramb was taken by someone that looks like KrisLeast suspicious moment in Deltarune ever
>>732817371Mike's relationship seems a lot more skewed towards Spamton than Tenna though. Its spamton that mike made the deal with. Tenna doesnt even know what Mike looks or sounds or acts like. Spamton says Tennas crew doesnt know shit about Mike and thats how its going to stay in the sweepstakes, and the mike trio aren't even fully convinced he ever existed. I feel like the only indication Tenna ever personally interacted with him was the recent shit about him having tried to warn Tenna off about the deal no?Whoever he is Mike seems to be genuinely benevolent, if dangerous
Will Dess live up to all the hype the community is building upon her (made-up) character?
>>732817481First thought when I saw the trailer for the game was how Noelle would love it in a guilty pleasure sort of way
>>732817784This was about the kris sprite controlled by (you) that you can try to stab him with. Pretty sure its shown to disappear when the game shuts down
I WILL create a NEW FUTURE with my BEST FRIEND, W.D. GASTER
>>732817883The only trait I want to remain is Dess being overly protective of Noelle from Kris
>>732817883i genuinely hope not. im fucking sick of dess wank and tired girl punk bullshit. she can haunt the narrative all she wants, from the grave
>>732817365>newshits right out of Changed
>>732817883Being a predator who stole kris's first kiss and virginity? yeah
>>732817883COME FOLLOW ME INTO THE DARKWITH YOUR HEART AS THE ARKWHICH SHALL SHINE YOU THE WAYBECAUSE I'M WITH YOU IN THE DARKWITH YOUR HEART AS MY MARKWHICH SHALL GUIDE YOU THE WAYTHROUGH THE WAVES
>>732817365imagine how much worse things would be if toby went with the original idea where everyone was a human in the light world and became monsters in the dark world
>>732817525>There's only one knightMaybe, how are you so sure?>The Knight is a Lightner. A Lightner's Determination is necessary to create Fountains, and The Knight certainly has plenty of it.We know darkners can't open fountains but I'm not saying the Knight is a darkner. I'm saying it's something else entirely, and their ability to shapeshift and glitch out seem to indicate that. (Maybe they're something like the titans.) Also, I doubt Queen is a reliable narrator on who opened the ch2 fountain.>Why?My main gripe with Dess Knight is the lack of motive. Why is Dess opening fountains? Why is she running around kidnapping police officers instead of running home or telling anyone that she is alive?>Is that so?Yes, I doubt Dess is "large." her sprite in the flashback seems to be about the same size as current Noelle.
>>732817883weirdo girlfailure dess with a knack for music and a survivalist/ milsurp special interest seems to be the most likely based on what we know given that catty/ bratty/ burgerpants never bring her up we can assume they either weren't friends with her, or just don't want to bring her up in front of kris for whatever reasonit's entirely possible that her only friends were asriel, kris, and noelle
>>732797675cool this is my favorite general
Little gorls.
>>732817883Fanon Dess is insufferable and basically Susie 2.0. the real Dess is gonna be worth waiting for.
>>732818560i wonder how kris feels about being the shortest when it used to be noelle when they were kids
>>732818560My wife on left
>>732817883At this point I'd prefer Dess just be dead and stay dead.
>>732817883Dess is gonna be possessed roadkill and never have a single line
>>732817883Why would she want to bring the roaring, that would put Noelle in potential danger, is she stupid
re: Dess I feel like Toby has earned some benefit of the doubt by now that she wont be as obnoxious as the fandom is with her If anybody else had written Susie, or Ralsei for that matter, id hate them too
>>732812767HOLD IThttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B300CS2AcQ
>>732818356>how are you so sure?We have no reason to believe that the entity consistently identified as The Roaring Knight by several independent witnesses at different times across different worlds were actually not the same person.>I'm not saying the Knight is a darknerThe Knight has qualities that only Lightners have (the ability to create Dark Worlds and exist in the Light World).I agree that they have been transformed into "something more" and now have other qualities that are like a Titan, but there is no doubt in my mind that there is a person (Lightner) inside there.The game has repeatedly led us to this conclusion already. Gerson raises the question with Susie, who points out that she saw them in the Light World so they must be a Lightner, and Chapter 4 strongly suggests The Knight has a "secret identity" and encourages us to think about it (Kris and Susie ask questions about who could know the shelter codes at church, and Kris imagines The Knight's helmet coming off, basically confirming that they know who they "really are")>I doubt Queen is a reliable narrator on who opened the ch2 fountain.Queen identifies the creator of the Cyber World as "The Roaring Knight" without even knowing what "The Roaring" means. There's no logical way she could have learned this information, but she knows it, as do other Darkners in the Cyber World and other worlds created by The Knight.Maybe it makes sense for Darkners to have intuitive knowledge of their creator.>My main gripe with Dess Knight is the lack of motive.She's been transformed into a shadow monster after being lost/abandoned in the depths for years and The Plan is her only hope of getting her life back.>I doubt Dess is "large."Neither are Carol or Rudy, but The Knight is huge. There's no question that The Knight is a "large person."The Shadow Mantle interaction with Noelle is unused (at least until Chapter 5) but I cannot fathom any explanation for it but another cryptic hint toward Dess.
I've been having some thoughts recently regarding lore, and I feel there's something we've been baited into believing, I don't think the Roaring Knight is the Knight at all, but in actuality the Black Knife, meaning the Knight is the person 'controlling' the Roaring Knight, 'The Roaring Knight' is a name only known to the soul, and it's an identifier name based on it's appearance and what it did as soon as it saw Kris and the others, it roared.of course I do not doubt that this entity is Dess Holiday, but I don't believe Dess Holiday is the Knight as a result of this, it feels like it was designed to make us jump to a false conclusion, baiting you into making connections that aren't entirely there.
>>732818832Kris real reason for ghosting her is because she grew taller and Kris felt ashamed funni theory
>>732819448*kisses you*
>>732819448>'The Roaring Knight' is a name only known to the soul
>>732809205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqcJhgQVEYs
>>732809205https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJj3YT7w-Fwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FcVuETJos0
I feel myself slowly becoming a noellefag now, after 2 previous releases, for no reason
>>732820512>for no reasonright...
>>732820582I was immune for like 7 years, she was barely even around this time
>>732820698you are not immune to propagandoe
>>732820512I really like her she's cute
>>732820794Everyone loves NoelleAnd if they don't, we'll make them
hochi mama...
>>732820512Proverbs 5:19 brother, come home
so it seems Chapter 5 is likely to release within the next few months.
>>732821086I actively disliked her all this time but I think That scene was what broke the ice for me. Seeing her so vulnerable made me want to protect her. I felt the same way about Flaky as a kid
>>732821684the noelle section in ch2 was where I really became a fan of her. all her dialogue is so cute and she has excellent slapstick comedy
>>732821580>release is potentially being delayed just to wait on a foreign localizationyou will never be japanese, toby
>>732821580mid june at the absolute earliest we'll likely see it for sure by august though, unless toby's translators are also doing everything by text to speach
>>732821996the japanese have accepted him
>>732821996Its not like we're being held up for fucking brazillians or something. I can live with sharing with the nips
>>732818850Good wife.
>>732822351good wife, evil wife
>>732822434My evil wife that I am evil with.
>>732819215>Gaster was Asgore scientist in UT so likewise he must have met Gaster in DRDamn never thought of that one, pretty good potential connection
>>732821580What a dumb fucking retard holy shit
Her capacity to do fucked up shit as long as she has the right guidance and motivation makes her so fucking sexy. I dont want to make her worse; I want to free her
>>732822528i think most people are at least partially on board with trauma therapist gasterif that were the case, he obviously would know asgore and toriel, along with rudy, carol, noelle, and asriel at the very least the issue with making parallels in deltarune is that they aren't 1:1 with undertalein ut alphys replaced gaster as the head scientist, but in deltarune she replaced gerson as a teacher
Slut.
>>732804361No responses?Guess I'm alone on that one>>732815693He's just a little fellaAlthough unlike other fellas like Spamton and Jevil, Ramb doesn't try too hard, unless you count at the amount references he throwsHe also come across as a sympathetic character, since he knows Kris as much as Tenna and was willing to support you in obtaining Shadow Mantle, so him getting petrified or getting kidnapped adds tragedy to his character.Since it's possible to beat the Knight without mantle, it makes me wonder if there's going to be consequences if you do the Sword route. I mean what will happen to Ramb?And why does Ramb still have no merch?
>>732824042its probably a deliberate choice considering he's a nobody ingame tooi only started to even kind of like ramb when i realized he can be werewired. toby is a god for putting werewires out there.
WTF was his problem?
