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>woah hey what if i res johnny???
don't do it
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>>732912220
>webm fucking borked
god fuck hdr
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Bros what broking combinations did you find yet?
For the ranger the combination of attacks can't miss and the powerful attacks who miss like 50-70% is really strong, I got that twice so far and the only real op thing I manage to collect.
The most powerful was the ranger had marked (upgraded to hit all similar enemies) and I had a mage that would reduce spell costs so I could spam the attack like 10 times in the end, and basically one shotted the spider in the caves.
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Is there any kind of tech I need to 100% be aware of?
Like how in BoI you learn what rooms have a secret room adjacent. Anything like that I need to keep in mind?
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>>732912220
I don't get the appeal. This art style looks ugly as fuck.
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>>732912851
It's a SRPG with random elements, that's the appeal.
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>>732912851
I have 3000 hours in Isaac
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>>732912851
not that many people care about graphics in 2026
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>huh, I wonder why my mini-mes are surviving so well
>anyway, time for a shop, can't wait to get my next rare cand-
They're casting fucking Vet Visit.
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Just beat Caves and got class ability unlocks.
Does collarless have these?
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>>732912975
Not the graphics, the overall art direction. I'm not talking about engines or graphical fidelity here.
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>>732912979
Lmao. Mini-me gets a free use of a held item. I also gave one a geode but it didn't take, I wish I had one with a pearl. If I ever get another pearl I'm stashing it till breed for an easy ally run 99 coins.
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>>732912851
breadmund's art has looked like that since like the year 2000 so maybe there's nostalgia for it now who knows
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>>732912635
gambler skill (100% extra damage if it crits) plus the crit if hitting the front is a nice and easy one. Put on blinders too for even more damage.
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>>732913042
and im saying that most people dont care what the game looks like if gameplay is good
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>Born with mega blast
>Born retarded
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>>732912987
yep
>>732912757
Not really tech but if you don't mind some early grind farming the alleyway over and over for food and cash while aggressively giving away every cat you can isn't a terrible idea since the ones you end up breeding are gonna be shit anyway without house stats.
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>>732913203
>yep
Oof.

I assume the same classes get different unlocks for different routes? Was considering going for a lmao3cat run but might try go to the boneyard.
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>>732912354
actually handbrake just being retarded okay whatever

>>732912979
learned my lesson after giving my trampling cleric mini-me and watching her push my team around just to heal a fucking 3 hp familiar and then use puzzle box because i kept forgetting to unequip it
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>no console release
Are you fucking kidding me Edmund?
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>>732913349
>looked just fine on my end until i uploaded
okay fuck this i'm going to bed
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>>732913314
I think it's just for act one but boneyard and caves have different unlocks yeah.
Colourless cats aren't terrible they're just unfocused but some colourless passives can be pretty good like just giving them plat damage increases on their basic attacks.
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Im about to complete my 6th dead god on Isaac (I have finished 3 on PC, and 2 on switch, I only have 2 characters left on my last file on switch). I've basically dedicated all my gaming freetime to isaac in the last 2.5 years. The addiction has genuinely crippled me. Something is wrong with me where I need to play this game an absurd amount. I want to get Mewgenics because it looks awesome, but I saw there was 3 file selects on the main screen. For the betterment of myself, I cannot buy this shit. My life has only got worse since I got addicted. 4-5 years ago I used to have sex occasionally.

Should I get Mewgenics?
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>>732912635
Fighter that gets all stats up with allied cat death and necromancer raising an army of cats. Ended up with ~+30 all stats during spider, by that point the fighter was critting every shot. The wide attack made clearing zombie cats quick too.
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>>732913491
Yeah, although it's been mentioned as a problem causer mini me can be absolutely legit.

Anyone know how cat rib works? Should I merc the kitty near the end of a run to get a god kitten?
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>discovered you can stack shelving furniture on eachother

ahh, now this is feng shui
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>>732913519
You might as well embrace it and contribute back to the games that ruined your life. I used to be addicted to BoI as well. This is as addictive. Definitely get it. Let's ruin our life together.
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>>732913314
Yeah it's like Issac. Every end-route boss has a class unlock tied for it (Collarless cats have to be in your party from the start).
From the empty spaces I'd assume every class has at least eight unlocks or so.

I'm assuming just like Issac too, the "end" of the route can be extended after enough wins (I'm guessing taking the Flesh cube to the end of the caves is part of this).
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>>732913194
all cats are born retarded so it's ok
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>been keeping only dead cats in the attic because I don't have the guy who wants dead cats yet
>one day one of the dead cats is missing and there was a bunch of poop up there
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>Try 2 desert runs
>Get raped both times
Do I need to up my eugenics game by just running ACT 1 over and over again until I get ubermensch cats to make this shit bearable or am I just giga dogshit?
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>>732913639
I was legit an autistic chad before I started playing isaac. Now I am just a tall autist that people like probably because I am tall, but no longer a chad. I promised myself once I finish this last file on Isaac I will return to the gym and become chad again. I can't do this. I want the game, but I am genuinely at a crossroads. I am legitimately worried I will waste another 2 years of my life on this shit.
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We're doing it lads

>>732913819
To get that dude you have to lose a run. Just send a single cat out to die.
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my cat is meowing to the music!
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>>732913939
Wasting your life is all relative, anon... I used to feel really guilty about it too, then eventually you just realize that it's okay to do the shit you like, even if it involves isolating yourself. Who cares... It's okay to play games and only do that for a while.
The true trick is doing the exercise while playing. This is a strategy game so you could just get an exercise bike and play. You'll get jacked while playing, best case scenario.
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Ranged medic cleric is so much better
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>BUT ISAAC LOOKED LIKE SHIT
Isaac looks 100x better than whatever the fuck Mewgenics was going for. The cats are not pleasant at all to look at.
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>>732913851
When you unlock Act 2 it's time to kinda start thinking about breeding.
General low-maint method is:
>Keep all your retirees in a room with stimulation and comfort as high as you can crank it
>Keep all your kittens and fresh cats in another room with comfort as low as possible so they fight often and gain extra stats before they're sent out on their runs (you can mulch the losers who get injured/die)
As you unlock more rooms you can more finely tune your breeding programs (keep all your strong cats in one room, keep all your smart cats in another, etc.)

Every once in a while add a stray to the mix to keep the gene pool diverse and reduce the risk of birth defects.
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>>732914145
you are weak and a coward
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>>732914219
What the fuck was his problem, honestly
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>>732914219
At least that looks like a cat
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>>732914145
I agree with you anon, Ed's art style looks like shit. Isaac flash looked like shit. The pixelart Isaac (rebirth and the DLCs) was clearly the development team's interpretations of Ed's grotesque drawings, and they ended up lowkey cute.
For the nostalgia fags that somehow prefer flash, I started on flash, Rebirth's style is much better.
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From what I've gathered so far, this is how breeding works:

There's only 3 home stats that effect breeding: comfort, stimulation, and mutation. You're gonna want to segregate your cats into at least 2 groups: group 1 is your general pool/farming cats: these are cats you don't care about like strays or cats with defects or bad stats. They stay in a room with comfort as low as possible with negative comfort furniture, cat shit everywhere (lowers comfort), and overcrowded India train tier conditions because you want these cats to injure, grow to age 5, or kill themselves as fast as possible so you can farm unlocks. Those who survive can go into a group 2: these are cats you run through the sewers easy path only so they become veterans for more unlocks. Finally you have group 3, the breeding pen: with at least 5-10 comfort the cats will stop fighting and only breed. I kept weeding out cats with low stats/bad mutations/bad passives, and eventually I'm at the point where I only keep kittens with 0 'red' stats, only white and preferably green stats, and good mutations. I assume group 4 will be specialized breeding rooms in order to pass down specific traits and passives, but I'm not there yet because it takes forever to unlock house expansions. The downside is that like just like darkest dungeon, this game requires a shit load of grind in order to progress in meaningful ways, which is fucked.

I almost just tossed this piece of shit because he has red stats, only to discover that he's a primordial dwarf. Probably gonna become one of my strongest archers ever.
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>think to myself that edmund's humor is very childish and stuck in the 2010s
>send a cat having the poop ability on a run
>sound effect makes me laugh
>using it on enemies makes me laugh
maybe edmund was onto something here
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Don't worry anons eventually someone is going to make a mod that make the cat look cute... Hopefully just cute.
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>>732914332
Bowel movement status?
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>>732913973
first time this happened to me it was a cat that does all double meows so it sounded like SHIT
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>>732914359
what, you dont want your cats to get the [Nice Rack] mutation? what are you, a coward?
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>>732913851
Just stick to Act 1. Do the sidequests from the scientist. When you complete the sidequests, you get a good version of the quest item that you can keep.
Don't depart to act 2 unless you have a cat with a water generation skill, really good items, or really good cats.
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>>732914590
>tfw lost both sidequest items due to extremely unlucky runs
they do come back... right? Act 2 feels unbeatable. I might have to farm act 1 a lot bros...
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>>732914858
Quest items can't be lost youll see them again in the equip menu before an adventure
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>>732914941
I can assure you I have 100% lost them, Dr. Beanies also scolded me for losing the items. They are not in my inventory.
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Just starting out, is it normal that I get move and range indicators for basic attacks but not for skills? Its annoying i have to move first and find I'm out of range
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first line to make me laugh. the cat's face kek
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oh zombie kittens will eat your own knocked down kittens. that's cool to learn this deep into a run
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Collar tierlist?
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>hover over big shark
>"will eat anything it can reach"
>it moves twice and does exactly that to one of my cats
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>>732913661
>Collarless cats have to be in your party from the start
Oh no, I got one during the match and was happy I didn't get an achievement
Fuck...
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>>732915310
They are all great honestly. But I can't see myself doing a run without tank or cleric, unless I know for sure my dmg cats have their own sustain somehow. Or mb when I know routs and challenge in them well enough. Also Necro is the trickiest one.
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>>732914590
>When you complete the sidequests, you get a good version of the quest item that you can keep.
Can you get another one if it breaks? Like the persuasion item for example
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>>732915296
try reading before acting
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>>732912220
>>>/vg/
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>>732915625
retard
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>>732914590
Desert isn't that bad, just bring a cleric
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>>732915104
Anyone?
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>>732915452
The runs without dedicated healers are always for more skilled players with deeper game knowledge in such games desu.
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>>732915356
It also instakill bosses and minibosses if you manage to persuade one to join you
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>>732915558
you're a stupid little nigger
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>>732915698
and what does it say if you hover over a kitten? go on, post the screenshot
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How are people recruiting bosses?
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>>732915079
House boss quest items just magically reappear if you lose them (you can 100% abuse this for some of the useful ones by taking them on the wrong path).
Dr. Beanies are basically radiant quests that come in a cycle, so donate more and you'll get it again eventually or so I guess based on zero information.
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>>732915104
Yes, TYPICALLY they have the same range but otherwise yeah you have to check
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fuck crater maker
if my necromancer had just ONE different passive or skill i would've died.
had to cheese with relentless dead as distraction and pop in & out with reaper step.
remind me to never take alien overgrowth as the forced weather event ever again.
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>>732915887
I took meteor and while one random fight got dicey because the meteors kept fucking falling on my team, the boss fight wasn't too bad
What does the weather you picked do?
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>>732914307
Very useful information. Thanks anon!
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>>732915781
>post the screenshot
sure :)
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>godzilla and gamera fight
>1k health
>each
>barely manage to stay alive
>get them right where I want them, dual deaths, I’m so good at the game
>godzilla died first, gamera didn’t die and decides to be my pet
Huh. Ok. Sure. A turtle is fine too.
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>>732915887
>remind me to never take alien overgrowth as the forced weather event ever again.
But it's the freest win for the boss?
The extra monsters die turn one from the boss' counters and tramples, and the brambles kill the boss in only a few turns of him walking around.
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>>732916063
>decides to be my pet
What does that even mean for a house boss
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>>732914145
This, the game is great but God the cats are ugly. How am I supposed to care for them when they're ugly as fuck.
In 30 hours I've maybe gotten two cats that actually looked like a normal cat.
There's "a bit of whimsy" and then there's just making shit look bad as a joke. I hope there's gonna be a mod that takes it towards the former.
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>>732916050
well…. okay thats fucked up lol
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>miss one day of no-lifeing the game
>neetfags already almost finished it
fug
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>>732912851
It's ugly cute and I like it.
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>>732915983
slaps brambles around the place (every single time it put them right on the fucking spawn locations of the cats) and also there's little shitbulbs in them that possess the cats if you leave one next to them.
massive nuisance, stripped basically half my cats' hp just trying to get out.

>>732916067
are you telling me its not rigged to put it right in front of your cats
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So what’s the point of three save files
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>>732916148
>neetfags already almost finished it
LOL
LMAO
Only ~20% cleared Caves.
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>>732916148
Literally no one has posted %s in these threads
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>>732916245
I'm not the most dedicated person here I'm sure, but it's respectable.
Just unlocked Act 3.
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is there any point to not sending off all retired cats?

can cats be unretired?
is for the off chance they have a kid? the kittens aren't too strong nor do they seem to get buffs
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>Rally maggot also rally the any allies including your own cat if you have mama maggot as a minion
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>>732916450
If you get a good kitten, you can just keep it safe for breeding instead of risking it in a run
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>>732912851
But think of the gameplay!
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>>732916450
keep at least 4 good retired cats, you'll need them
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just unlocked druid, any grinders got insight on the playstyle/good skills to take?
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I wasn't aware that there was a boss that would attack the house and I had to use retired cats. I sold my god tier cats literally the day before and then my other one died of old age on the day of the fight. All of my remaining cats just got vored.
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>>732916673
Everyone learns once.
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>>732914307
>got a savant syndrome cat (it's this but intellect instead) with mega blast
>it gets cured at the end of the run so I end up with a mediocre cat
oh well...
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>>732916673
butch tells you about it a week in advance
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>>732916620
It's incredibly strong because summons are OP as fuck. Pair with a necromancer and summon/familiar boost equipment and you can just snooze through most of the adventure
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So do we know how luck works? It affects crits, right? But what about other chance-based effects, specifically ones with listed success chances. For example, if I stack luck, will my heavy shot have a higher chance of hitting?
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>>732914307
You sound far, but man only 7 base is not great to see when I already see that from strays. I can tell you have some crazy mutations though which I find to be better for breeding.
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Buy an ad, fat kike.
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>>732916310
>Act 3
WHAT I THOUGHT THERE WERE JUST 2 PATHS
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>goes out of its way to dig up the 1(one) thread that has actual game discussion going on
>SHILL SHILL SHILL
What did he mean by this?
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I want this feline cunt hung for his crimes
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>>732917028
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I just can't make thief work. I see no reason to bring this useless fuck over any other class.
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>>732917114
On my last boneyard run it was pretty useful for bypassing shields
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>>732917114
teleport for movement, apply huge dot or big crit, use your actual movement to run to the tall grass
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>>732912220
Reddit the game
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>>732915310
They're honestly surprisingly well balanced - every class can do crazy shit. But it's probably not until endgame where the differences will really start to show.

>>732915452
Necro is hybrid role and can fill the role of both the Tank and Cleric simultaneously.
>High VIT, like Tank
>Can use leeches and eat corpses to recover HP
>Can spend that same HP to heal/support the party
>Also has an extra gimmick build where you do a bunch of boosted moves while dead (not worth running this unless you roll into the colourless skill "Play Dead")

Cleric and Tank are both better at their roles as healer and vanguard in aggressive teams because they don't require the same setup time or resource management Necro does however.
If you're winning every encounter in like <3-4 rounds it can be harder for it to shine.
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dogfags have literally never made a good game
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>>732917114
i cant make mage work at all… but with thief completed caves and boneyard
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>>732917114
I think the only time thief really came in handy was when I rolled a passive that automatically collected all of the drops on the ground at the end of a battle, alongside the cut purse shot that spawns coins when you hit units with that skill. Came home with damn near a hundred coins and brought out every shop. But to really get mileage out of it, it feels like you need to have a thief eugenics program unlike the simpler classes
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Damn cat... Seducing my best fighter... Backstab correction is needed.
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>>732917202
That's nice when you get 1 of the 10 skills that are actually good.
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>>732917295
Lucy is more Sexo
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you can heal bombs btw with an aoe heal spell which revives them obviously right next to your team ahah
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>>732917397
ah only if you have the revive the dead with a heal perk hahahahah rip
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>>732917114
Thief is a squishy mid-range damage dealer that leverages its high mobillity to hit and run. Late run it's basically *teleports behind u* into *nothing personnel kid* unless you really fuck up the build.

It's just trickier to use because its higher damage options are more conditional than something like say, Fighter. Who just goes "unga bunga me big punch".
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>>732917230
fallout 4
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Do cats die of old age?
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>>732917650
Yes
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Dear god, she's back.
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>>732912220
aphex twin reference?
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>>732917558
Dunno why you posted that but its completely unrelated to the post you replied to
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>>732917665
How old is too old?
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>>732917028
THEM BONES THEM BONES
THEM KITTY BONES
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>>732917230
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>>732915452
If you're lucky you could get an inherited cleric ability.

Gotta stimulationmaxx, hope this fuckin shop refreshes.
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>>732917114
It's RNG. If a thief rolls right, it can do a shit ton of damage and status effects and then just lmao retreat with no damage
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>>732917742
I got a cat named "Big" that had this exact jawline
wish I'd taken a picture of it
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>eatin' rats plays
Kino
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I didn't even play the game. Get that stupid cat song out of my head.
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>>732917230
>the one instance of dogs in the game
>they're beheaded and missing all their limbs
Does Edmund hate dogs or something?
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Enough.

Post your favorite track right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmTtHcm7z3Y
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>>732916450
You need house stats to get good inheritance.
Comfort (frist on list) is what affects the kitten production rate, and Stimulation (second on list) is what effects the kitten quality.

As far as I can tell the meta for a while will be jamming all of your furniture into one room and keeping the good cats in there while other rooms host cats to be run or cats to be donated. Eventually you might get the furniture to get a dedicated mutation room or something.
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I like tactics games but I hate cats and the artstyle is fucking revolting.
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>>732916673
You get explicitly told you need retired cats and then you get a red marker saying 7/X days, which is enough time to fill up the ranks. Did you skip the dialogue and just ignore the warning?
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>>732917295
>>732917340
morana makes me feel weird
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>>732917964
that's the one
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>>732917993
If you want a game like this check out "Into the Breach." and recently Menace, Menace is more like this than it is to Xcom.
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>>732917993
weird, I thought ugly fucks like you should love this game
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I wish there was a way to rotate the map like in FFTA, I keep misclicking wrong tiles that are behind enemies and other stuff
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>initial trailer for the game was 12 years ago
What the fuck, it was that long ago?
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>>732916450
You need the first Tink upgrade to de-class the cats. Basically, this shows you on retired cats the stats they would pass down, which is the same as their colorless stats. Without this you're flying blind.

Next, you basically just need to max stimulation. Highest stimulation possible means kittens are more likely to obtain the highest stats from their parents. Combine this with the random variations and you slowly climb in base stats.

Next, you need appeal. Appeal brings in cats with higher base stats (and skills and such, no idea how these are passed down if at all, probably not at all honestly). This is necessary to not end up with a bunch of deep inbreds with the strategy above. You have to keep inserting fresh cats into your bloodline or they'll fuck up hard, and appeal is the way to do it.

Least important is comfort. Comfort makes the cats more likely to breed and less likely to fight. Which is mostly for convenience. It only -actually- helps if you've got a few cats you want to breed, but they hate each other (which is shown via the last Tink upgrade). But you can play around it and this just speeds up the process.

Stimulation is necessary or you won't even get stronger kittens.
Appeal is to prevent inbred mutations, though it'll slow down the snowballing from stimulation.
Comfort is just convenient.
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Literally how would you beat this dodge cat boss without some corny shit? I only won because my tank spawned a million pet rocks.
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>>732918332
Trap him in a corner
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>>732917114
I feel like if you were starting with a cat who had one of the guaranteed crit abilities thief would be very strong, a lot of it's kit seems geared around crits which are just really unreliable.

Also doesn't help that ranger is the other ranged attacker and ranger seems to roll some broken build without even trying.

>>732918332
Case in point, my ranger just took pot shots each turn because he kept moving around which procced his trait, and I got a couple of bruise stacks on him.
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>>732918308
All that said, I've never seen a base stat of 8+.
Right now my best is a cat with five 7 stats, but it's too inbred for use.
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Why do browns and zoomers get so mad at cats?
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>>732917964
CAT FIGHT CAT FIGHT
GOT CAT? LET'S FIGHT
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>>732918518
My best cats.
Yes they're all inbred, I need to break that with new cats, but that'll lower the average stats.
Still yet to see a single 8.
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My cat is kinda fucked up
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>>732918859
He needs some ibuprofen
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do mutations that cats acquire while exploring transfer via breeding or is lamarck wrong again
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>>732918873
Give him 3, he has that many heads.
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>>732918770
I don't think I've seen a natty 2 either so it seems 5 +/- 2 is the range.
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this "negative" is amazing if you can get it on a fighter type cat
i was expecting them to go beserk but no it's just a straight up increase to strength and decrease to int
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i can't believe edmund mcmillen has me spending this much of my personal time playing a fucking tactics game but here we are
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>>732916450
Do you want spoilers?

Without spoilers it's good to keep cats with good stats and skills around especially positive mutations.
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>>732918973
I think what I'll try to do is ignore my own advice, and go deeply inbred. Keep going until I get all 7s (I may need to insert parents with 7 str, range and luck).
Once I've got something horrifically inbred, then I'll breed it with literally any cat in a 15+ stimulation room and hope the cats kittens keep the 7s as I un-inbred it.
It'll have to be high comfort too so my all 7er doesn't get fucking killed.
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>THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES
>THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES
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>>732917698
Absolutely.
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If a cleric has madness does it heal or harm an ally?
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>>732919215
Harm.
It'd be too nice of edmund to make it random targets.
No, it specifically can't tell friend from foe, so they're all foes.
It can even heal enemies.
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>>732917993
I was playing Menace just before this dropped, might be more up your alley if you care about the art style too much.
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When do you decide to keep pushing forward or go back home? I'm low on coins, food, and haven't done alot of the upgrades yet. Should I focus on doing some hard/normal runs and stopping after the Sewers/Junkyard just to stock up on stuff? Last time I pushed Boneworks I lost everything because my cats aren't very good yet.
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having to play hide and seek in the caves is so fucking stupid
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>text text text
>60 different things on the ui at any given time
>actual super faggot npc
Just give me the poop, tears and fires from isaac, cause this shit ain’t it
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how do you feed the burning orb to the man in the moon? do you just have to throw it?
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>>732917993
I feel that people that hate cats would unironically like this game considering all the horrid shit you can do to them.
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>>732919358
I think the point of TWO guys wanting retired cats (one from early areas, one from any) is so you can retire early and make significant progress, so don't feel bad about doing that at all.
I didn't and now I've got all sorts of time pressures, and barely any fucking upgrades.
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>be me
>in Sewers have a grand ol time
>my dumbass neglects to hover over and see what the new enemies do
>Land Sharks.jpg
>trounce my entire team effortlessly with stacks of bleed and 20 turns in a row
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>>732918953
Absolutely, I had an event which gave the entire party a -2 ranged mutation, which they'd pass on to every kitten when they mated (this was before I unlocked the guy who takes mutations.)
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>>732914145
This game is not for you, anon.
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>>732919414
Actual 60 iq
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>>732919483
Skill issue.
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>>732919483
Kurunko bros...we lost
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it's fun but runs are too long
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>>732913194
So can birth defects have pros/cons or are they usually always bad?
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>>732919051
yeah and it was my mage that got it
maybe I can breed it into other cats
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>>732919414
i.. agree and they hate us for it.
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>>732918332
>Corner him using the environment, your cats and whatever summons you have available
>Burn the surrounding area and chip him down with DoTs
>Use AoEs in such a way that he can't evade.

He's the first boss in the game that punishes you for building damage with no thought for utility. Which is why most people seem to be struggling with him. Alley, Junkyard, Sewer and Caves can all generally be brute-forced through with high damage.
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Post them
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are there real downsides to inbreeding? because it might already be too late for my cats
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>>732913519
Control yourself retard. The game is _____fun____.
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haven't made it to the boneyard or caves yet, what should I be focusing on?

haven't really bred any winners
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The soundtrack is top tier, right?
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I genuinely don't understand how to play the game or what the strategy is. I can't be a tboi god and just dodge and remember synergies and items. everything feels like a catch 22 and I have 0 experience with games like this
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>>732919873
>31 hours
>not even 1/4 done
How big is the fucking game?
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can someone post the VA list
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>>732919998
I'm gonna suggest something really boring, but it's honestly the best strategy as far as I can tell. Early in the game you should:
>max the everliving fuck out of the people at home
>injury furniture boy is lowest priority, it just expands his shop but I think he can still sell every item at all times
>top right is great for excess cats
>top left is something you want to grind for
>middle left you NEED to grind for
>bottom right is mandatory for breeding

So basically:
>Do a shitload of runs throwing your cats at the two guys on the left
>throw every fucking kitten at bottom right, who cares if it has good stats or not
>repeat
>repeat
>repeat
>now progress

I didn't and I'm deeply regretting it.
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How much inbreeding is too much inbreeding?
inb4 until they start to cut foreskins and calling themselves chosen people
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Man I might have to start doing Alley-only runs to get donation fodder.
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How do you even get a grasp on the breeding? If I breed two cats with high intelligence will the baby be born with higher than normal intelligence? Is it that simple?
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>>732919998
Getting to boneyaed or caves.
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>>732920173
hmm I see, I'll take your advice and see how it pans out
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>>732920084
If you can't figure out a turn based game and think ahead of what to do you might actually have low IQ.
These games are extremely simple to play, you plan ahead and execute your plan. Strategy is always to synergize skills across your characters. It's genuinely not hard.
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ahahhaha seems guillotina will try to throw your cat into another cat's falcon punch. hahaha another fuck you huh
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>>732920326
Only if you have high stimulation.
But yes, it's that simple.
I'll simplify it as much as possible for you.

>high appeal = cats wander in with a 7 in a stat
>high stimulation = kittens select the highest stats amongst their parents
>high comfort = more breeding, less fighting, even amongst cats who hate each other

You want high appeal first to get those 7s coming in. Then high stimulation to pass them down, and pass many down. Comfort's just for convenience.
>t. >>732918770

>>732920374
I'm honestly considering restarting just to do this.
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>Edmund already planning on 2 expansions
>says this is a game like Isaac where more content means more fun
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explain the dates, does it mean anything? is it just for speedrun stuff?

also how does breeding work? should i keep cats that can breed with me and not retire them if they're good?
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>>732920326
Yes and it might inherit skills or mutations from the parents.
but you shouldn't worry about it too much since your house is too small to do selective breeding effectively.
Just purge the bad kittens with undesirable traits and your overall gene pool will improve.
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>>732920326
Yikes, it's social-economy factors the ones affecting intelligence, gosh it's like you have not even read flock. Trust me am a womin
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>>732920478
It affects weather, I'm in september and get the odd snowfall, which makes even the shitty spit attack freeze enemies.
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>>732917725
Probably somewhere around here?
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>>732917964
SHE'S A BLAAAAAAAAACK PUSSYYYY
SHE'S GOT HER FISHHOOKS IN YOUUUU
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>>732918618
annoyed that game have little to actually be mad about, everyone having fun and it costing 30$ despite looking like a poop cartoon
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>old and tired doesn't mean they won't still fuck
Damn I got it wrong this whole time
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>>732919414
I didn't like Isaac because it was so incredibly simple and repetitive, my brain shuts down while playing that game.
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>>732913178
People who don't like video games literally can't comprehend this
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How many items in this game? Holy fuck. I was expecting a hundred or so
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>>732920656
Huuuuh, there's something wrong with your cat, mate.
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>>732920995
500+ items
75 abilities per class
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is imbreeding actually bad or are the mutations good in this game?
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>>732920995
features trailer says 900
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8X4X-WeT5w
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>>732921051
Inbreeding is 100% bad. This becomes really clear once you see the inbreeding status. You can get mutations from other things.
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>>732917964
*cool surfer guitar riff*
~where's that smell
comin' from?~
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>>732921051
Inbreeding causes defects which are always bad, then there is mutations that you can get through events or the mutation stat in your rooms which are a net positive but often come with a small backdraw.
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>>732917964
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr9UL9y5y_0
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>>732920478
Jack only restocks on Sundays
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>>732921084
Wanna make somerhing of it?
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Anyone found extremely rare strays?
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>>732912220
how is any of this ugly diarrhea a cat?!??
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wait so the upper base stat limit is 7?
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>>732920173
>Early in the game you should:
>>max the everliving fuck out of the people at home
Fucking what? Why? You can easily reach Act 2 with just the first level of upgrades.
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So is this game actually good?
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>>732921329
Yeah it’s really good
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>>732921329
Yes, doesn't mean you'll personally like it though.
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>>732921186
>>732921101
do you have to keep track of kids and siblings then? that seems annoying, do you have to write the names down eventually?
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Has Edmund said anything about the amazing sales this game is having?
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>>732920073
It's been stuck in my head for two days now.
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>>732921325
Great job, now you want to go the desert, so you're not contributing sewers cats to the guy who wants them.
And you want to do some harder content, but you don't have the room space to do breeding, your cats may well die in the harder content so you can't contribute them to getting room space, and overall your life's shitty because you need to be spamming the early areas.
Might as well do it early.

>>732921427
Keep throwing kittens at Tink and he'll let you see family trees.
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>struggle at boss
>try to redo the fight
>Steven takes over
>he wins the fight easily for me
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What’s her fucking problem?
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>>732921329
Easily the best game to come out this year so far.
Not that it's saying much.
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>>732921474
>now you want to go the desert, so you're not contributing sewers cats to the guy who wants them
You can go back to Act 1 at any time.
>you don't have the room space to do breeding
2 rooms is plenty for Act 2.
There is zero reason to repeatedly do the easiest act just to max out upgrades.
>your cats may well die in the harder content so you can't contribute them to getting room space
Sounds like you just suck. I facerolled the Desert on my first try.
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>>732912220
Buy an ad. No one cares about this chud slop
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what does the pink bow do?
is it a gag item?
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>>732921679
Is she a bear or a cat?
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>>732921329
Its being pushed on v.... you know its fucking trash
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>>732921732
Makes your cat cuter
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>>732921732
It's fancy.
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>>732912220
Wait is that what the gameplay looks like wow LOL not playing this slopnigger garbage
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>>732921767
Clearly she's a snorlax
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Desert is brutal, I feel like half healing should apply to (lack of) post-battle heals as well, and getting cats wet only clear the sun debuff for the round instead of the entire scene
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>>732916183
The same with Isaac and other games like these. So that your siblings or partner can play their own file
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>>732918332
Hunter with splitshot makes it so that when he dodge he still get hits (that and an item that made it so that bramble spawn where you attack), and my Cleric had a spell that makes other cat attack an ennemy if they can and for some reason the boss didn't dodge those
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i'm going to kill edmongo mcmillard for making me do this
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going through the caves and WHO THE FUCK TOLD EDMUND THAT CROWD CONTROL WAS FUN? WHO LIED TO HIM? spiders webbing you constantly, brain drains disabling your abilities, the stupid bat giving you confusion... my favorite part of turn based games is not getting to play in my turns
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>>732921959
Should have brough ranged attackers. Or fire.
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>>732920463
That's great. Let's hope for more sophistication than Delirium this time around.
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This is crazy good.
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>>732922002
Let yourself fail so that you can learn.
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>>732922002
The first two are pretty simple to deal with but man fuck confusion.
At least it works just as well on enemies as it does on you. The collarless confusion ability was huge for me against Tina.
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>>732921959
>>732922058
Ice turns the long grass to spikes
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>>732921959
bro, your object permanence???
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>>732922124
It really doesn't feel like 25%. more like 50%
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Fuck, just got my second wipe and I was in Act 1. 3/4ths of the party were alive but that motherfucker boss from the Junkyard nuked me. I forgot that the one person that I took out of the area in time was a necromancer body so that still counts as a party wipe.
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>>732922124
>>732922180
Did you not see all the MTG references in the game? You can just tell Edmund loves playing blue.
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>>732922265
It seems like skill issues, have you actually trying to win?
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Does age correlate with con?
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>>732922124
I got a disgusting tileset where my cats started in a chokepoint blocked by spiders and with brain drains in the corners. I managed to beat it but god damn. Also... I just fucking walked into a random event that turned all my cats into my slow-ass tank..... I was having fun with my coin build thief... jesus christ edmund...
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>>732920257
You can do hard runs to supplement Alley runs
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>>732921329
Yes but is definitely not a game for everyone. Less so than Isaac
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>>732922357
>Age 50
Cat years or human years? If it is human years then that's impressive
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>best ever run in chapter 1, cruising through, collecting items to tackle chapter 2
>dybbuk occupies my killing machine warrior and kills my team in 1 turn
jesus fucking christ.
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is the game hard?
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>>732922510
days lol
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>>732922541
It is if you have iq below 70
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Sex with Lucy
Sex with Marshallow
Sex with my cleric who just caved in Dyubb's head
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I really should have exhausted the tip dialogue sooner. Holding right click to see enemy move/attack ranges visually is pretty handy.
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>>732912851
Le heckin quirkis chungus kittehrinos.
Though reddit hates it because it jas Chris Chan and H3 in it.
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>>732919483
game of the year
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>>732922618
post your cleric
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>>732922541
It can be. there are lots of aspects that go against QoL that are obviously purposely done. you're very much playing edmund's game how he wants you to which can grate (trying to navigate through fire or glass with the shitty pathing). lots of RNG that will fuck you over in events. figuring out various footguns like zombie kittens eating knocked down cats with a priority where none of the tooltips say so. I like it though, hope it's easy to mod.
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>>732922583
>They age each day
I have seen bugs with bigger lifespan than this
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>>732921084
i like that you can always faintly see the "hold to skip" text at the bottom of intro screenshots
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>back to the caves for another cube quest attempt
>alley was super easy, beat hard route no sweat
>early sewers the same so go hard route there too
>shit bricks when my cleric gets knocked into my fighter triggering his hit me passive
>he backstabs the cleric bringing her to 2 hp
>luckiky have mage with cryoheal to save her and finish the fight
Thank fucking god he didn't crit.
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>>732922356
Only boss I didn't beat first try so far was the spider. I've just been winning so hard that I started getting careless.
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>>732913519
It really depends on if you like turn based strategy games or not, its a completely different gameplay style than Isaac.
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>>732922541
Yes and you are expected to learn by failing
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>>732922357
HEE HEE
SAMONE
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>>732913587
I got a fucking ROCK followed by a fucking SUICIDE cat what the FUCK edmond??
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>>732922752
Might just be me but I've found pathfinding around floor hazards to be way better the past two days. Was only day 1 that it was really bothering me.
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>>732922541
If you don't have much experience with a tactical grid based RPG, yes. You can be easily punished for bad plays.
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im an avid xcom player
is this game similar?
would an xcom enjoyer enjoy this?
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Do quest items need to be equipped, or do you just need them in your inventory at the end of the run?
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>>732921443
Yes Saar sales do very good saar check steam chart you bloody bitch
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>>732923042
Nvm you can't unequip them lol
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>game is universally beloved by /v/
>few cat raping Jeets in an absolute tizzy about it and shitting up every thread
Why are they like this?
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this game reminds me of baldurs gate 3 combat
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>>732923121
it would be too silly to just unequip them since the whole point is to deal with the consequences of their effect
it also means you lose the quest item if the equipped cat dies so be careful Specially hard with the meat cube since it makes anyone how gets downed explode instantly
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>you can just keep hitting the pinata no matter how many times you fail
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I am getting stronger
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>>732921679
This asshole trained her to be like that
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>>732920114
When they say 200 hours to just to "beat" it you better fucking believe that's the absolute minimum
This is a forever game
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>>732923284
cute cat
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>>732921679
a bit 'ungry
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>>732923197
Except way less boring and tedious
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having a healer that cant heal himself and not getting any heals fucks you big time
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>>732923340
And Edmund won't stop adding to it like with Rebirth
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>>732923121
>>732923249
I got a random event that allowed me to unequip cursed items while doing one of those quest runs. The game doesn't let you keep them in your backpack (it flat out tells you to reequip it to exit the menu), but I was able to transfer the leech to my tank later on which was very very useful.
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>>732923448
all of mine were like that so far
it's tough, but manageable
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>>732923249
Oh I didn't think it would turn off the effect, just wondered if you had to have it on you (for 10 seconds before I tried doing it).
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I'm the king of cats
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I had an awesome run with necromancer that had the mutation that gives you like 20 mana at the start (but no mana recharge) and I got a spell that lets you summon 4 zombies and then got it upgraded so it costs half as much then I could summon 8 zombies to start every fight and then I got another passive to summon another zombie at the end of the round
got like 20 zombies on screen at the same time xd
but they fucking suck they mostly just kept getting killed by big enemies AOE or bosses moving before they could do anything
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>>732923518
daft cunts they are
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>>732923448
I give mine the juice box item that can heal 5 hp every battle and never runs out. It’s really great
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>>732923028
I honestly tried both xcom games and didn't get too invested. I'm balls deep in this one though. It's kinda similar in the sense that you can permanently lose your cats but if what you enjoy about xcom is being rewarded very very long term for not losing a unit, then that's not present here (cats who've already gone on adventures can't go again). However it's like if XCOM had the variability of a roguelike when it comes to builds, it's super sick. There isn't a cover system but it is 1 attack and 1 move (with abilities that can change that) and the cat genetic system seems like it's super deep if you get into it (I'm super early so I don't quite understand it yet)
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>>732923448
Either pick up heals or win battles faster to heal your cats.
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What do you get for Boneyard collarless?
Metronome from doing caves is funny
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>get Mini-Me on my mage
>right before the boss fight he gets Battle Frenzy (or w/e it's called)
>kills one spiderling, goes on a rampage loop of shooting (sometimes twice per turn), casting a 1-dmg line on the boss and it's spiderlings, which spawns more spiderlings
>downs my tank and my fighter
>destroys the tank while he's downed
>after ~30 turns of this bullshit he stops
>his Mini-Me does the same thing
>Mini-Me downs and destroys the mage
>Boss went from 300 hp to 0 in 1.5 turns
>two of my cats died

What the fuck.
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>>732923028
It is similar but the game has more rng and the house stuff may be boring for you
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>torrent is 4 gigs
I assume I'm downloading russian malware? this looks like it should be 250 MB, or a browser game
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How many cats do you guys keep at once,
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did anyone get a radioactive poop cat yet?
not sure what the radioactivity bonus does
it says you can sometimes move extra and sometimes not move at all?
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>Started with bird seed
>Got trait that doubled relic efficacy
>Got bird poop

My bag is stretching
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Can I create the cat equivalent of toadlines? I need to bring the skeem to this game.
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>>732923897
the install is like 6 GB(?)

You better believe it
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does this game have meta progression?
im anti outside of game shit making the game easier so its artificially harder at the start
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>>732923028
they are both turn based
that's about it for similiarities, the game is wildly different in every other aspect
into the breach is a better comparison
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>>732924101
It's by the Isaac guy and is named after eugenics.
Of course it has meta progression. You start with random shitter cats (good enough for act 1) and work upwards. It starts easy.
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>>732924101
it's like isaac
you need hundreds of runs to unlock content and buffs
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>>732924101
Like Isaac the game has both meta progression and meta-scaling.
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Neat
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>>732924101
You will see and learn about things in this game in 300 hours of gameplay
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Holy shit do I need money to buy more furniture



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