https://x.com/Joshiepoo25/status/2022003361059631301>But then the trailer came out, and it was all downhill from there. Content creators love to point out the bias in folks who give positive previews after being flown out for an event, but ignore the fact that when their negative-leaning content gets 10x the engagement of the positive, they’ve got just as much incentive to lean into a disingenuous direction, whether consciously or not.>The hate started immediately. In addition to dogpiling on the trailer, I personally came under fire due to my naïveté on Twitter, which almost all of my now-former coworkers had learned to avoid during their previous game launches. After setting my Twitter account to private to protect my sanity, many content creators made videos and posts about me and my cowardice, amassing millions of views and inadvertently sending hundreds of angry gamers into my replies. They laughed at me for being proud of the game, told me to get out the McDonald’s applications, and mocked me for listing having autism in my bio, which they seemed to think was evidence the game would be “woke trash.” All of this was very emotionally taxing.>We were turned into a joke from minute one, largely due to false assumptions about a million-dollar ad placement, which even prominent journalists soon began to state as fact. Within minutes, it was decided: this game was dead on arrival, and creators now had free ragebait content for a month. Every one of our videos on social media got downvoted to hell. Comments sections were flooded with copy/paste meme phrases such as Concord 2 and Titanfall 3 died for this. At launch, we received over 14k review bombs from users with less than an hour of playtime. Many didn't even finish the required tutorial.>All products are at the whims of the consumers, and the consumers put absurd amounts of effort into slandering Highguard. And it worked.Your days are fucking numbered economic terrorists.
thinly veiled shitpost thread
>>732992572Oh, well. I guess it's time to move on to advanced economic terrorism OOOOOOOHHMMMMMM
>>732992572>we blame the ad for causing false assumptions>game comes out>ad was exactly what the game wasLMAO
>>732992634YOUARE-LITERALLY-!-KILLING-!INNOCENTFOLX!
>>732992786what's the potion seller doing there on the far left?
>>732992572A hundred thousand people played Highguard and decided they didn't like it. It got a fairer shake than a generic, marvel quipping, borefest like it ever deserved.There was no slander. The audience saw the trailer and they said "This looks like another dime a dozen modern fantasy game. How could they ever have thought that another game like this was a good idea?"
>>732992572>but me, my friends, and my coworkers all said the game was good(anyone who said otherwise was immediately blacklisted)>how could it have been bad?Toxic positivity is one of the biggest problems with people these days.
>>732992838He just sold everyone in the picture a gender-change potion, that's why they're so happy.
>>732992572>dab on the haters>get dabbed on insteadabsolute state of gamedevs
if shitposting can bring down a game studio then you just fucking suck and your game is trashgood riddance
Has anyone else been actually stroking off to this breakdown? Just reading it again is sending shockwaves through my dick.
>>732992994I would not trust a gender change potion from the Potion Seller.
I appreciate that a game like this isn't helmed by one person, but imagine having the benefit of seeing Concord being completely obliterated, and then doing absolutely fucking nothing to avoid the same fate.God damn Sega, the masters of terrible decisions, saw what happened and canceled Hyenas.
>>732992572>Make shit game>Doesn't sell because it's shit>NOOOO YOU SEE ACTUALLY IT'S NOT SHIT IT'S JUST GAMERS ARE CHUDS AND RACISTS N SHEEEEEEEET
>>732992572NO SHUT UP SHUT UPIT DIDN'T FUCK FLOP BAN STEAM CHARTS THEY ARE FUCKING FAKE THE GAME WAS A SUCCESS SHUT UP SHUT UP
>>732992572Yeah, so xhe is mildly hinting it was "review bombed". To be honest, it just looks like shit starting from the generic trailer music with drums playing along with the cuts. Jesus.
>shitty free to play game that wanted to make money by selling overpriced micro transactionsI'm supposed to feel sympathy for these scumbags?
If people don't want to play your game, maybe it's just not a good game or the genre isn't that popular.Or maybe they already have "their" game and don't see a reason to switch to yours.
heh
>>732993208Where did all the blast havers go?
>>732993239They had their blast and post-blast clarity hit. It happens
>>732993208Blast bros...
>>732992572>many content creators made videos and posts about me and my cowardice, amassing millions of views and inadvertently sending hundreds of angry gamers into my replies. They laughed at me for being proud of the game, told me to get out the McDonald’s applications, and mocked me for listing having autism in my bio, which they seemed to think was evidence the game would be “woke trash.” All of this was very emotionally taxing.It's literally CURRENT YEAR and there are still normalniggerfaggotcattle who still haven't grasped how social media works?
>>732992572They made a shit game, but he ain't wrong."Gamers" love nothing more to shit on games, and to them the best thing that can happen is not that a good game gets released, but that any type of game fails. It is readily observable on /v/, nothing gets discussed more than hopes and dreams about failed games. And then there's games like Cyberpunk, which launched in a very poor state, but the devs spent several years fixing and polishing it until it objectively was a fantastic game, upon which "gamers" pretended like it never happend and the game was forever stuck in the same state it was on release day years prior, just because they didn't want their narrative of a failed game to fall apart.It's like news media and right-wing extremism, the demand far exceeds the supply, so whenever some granny drops an N bomb (nigger), they'll act like the ovens have been fired up again. Because they need it, they crave it.
>>732993323Wrong
>>732993239Had a self inflicted blast.
>>732992572>NOOOOOO THOSE 100K PLAYERS ON LAUNCH DIDN'T STAY BECAUSE THE MEANIE STREAMER SENT THEM MENTAL WAVES TELLING THEM TO HATE THE GAME AND STOP PLAYING!!!!
>>732993323>Cyberpunk, which launched in a very poor state, but the devs spent several years fixing and polishing it until it objectively was a fantastic gamethanks for the hearty laugh anon, 10/10 bait
>>732992786Can’t even blame DEI for this one. How did a group of white and asian guys make something so bland and mediocre and soulless? They didn’t even have any corporate oversight, they could have made any game they wanted to yet they somehow made one of the most corporate feeling games ever.
>>732993323Bro, take your negativity somewhere else. Videogaming is a positive hobby
>>732993208>Looks like Team Layoff's blasting off again!
>>732992612What veil? The industry professionals are shitposting to try to grease their way into fucking up new companies.
>>732992572Holy mother of toxic positivity batman!I actually tried it as a trainwrecks enjoyer, and holy shit it is bad, like on fundamental, conceptual unsalvagable level bad. How can anyone try it and genuinely think >Hell yeah its the next new big thing!Is beyond my comprehension. Unironically Concord had stronger fundamentals, like there was servicable game buried deep down under tons of shit. There is nothing buried under highguard, just more shit.
What's wrong with having 2 thousand concurrent players? It's clearly a cheap janky game, this should be enough
>>732993046Nah. There aren't enough racist bigots getting their comuppatance on this one. And there WERE a few good things about the game. I am getting more millage out of them freaking out aftewards trying to save their skins post crash though.
>>732993512blindness is one hell of a disability
>>732992572>>732992786>>732993639HIGHGUARDIANS CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!
>>732993654they're not going to make money at all unless those 2k players keep paying for mtx 24/7
>>7329936542000 players doesnt support a 50 man dev team on the west coast, thats 2-3 man dev team selling the game at $10 numbers
>>732993709The Finals is doing 16k daily peaks and they seem to be doing great. 2k should be enough to get by
>>7329937392k concurrent means tens of thousands of active players, not everyone plays at the same time. Probably over 100k
>>732992572>This has mainstream hit writtent all over itThis right here is my favorite piece of this post.Obviously here it's supposed to be on a positive note, but if you look at it from the other side, you could see it as a bland, insipid shit that was meant to appeal to everyone while appealing to no one. In that way, it hit the nail on the head.
>>732993775gr8 b8 m8, I r8 it 8/8, no h8
>>732992572>the millennial financial curseThe real curse of millennials is their inability to create anything that isn't woke marvelslop
>DRG update>Deadlock update>Overwatch update>Terraria 1.4.5>Absolute shit launch day instead of waiting for a weekendNot only the game was shit, the ads stupid and try to astroturf it but they launched the game in the middle of other games big updates, they did everything wrong.
>>732992634OY VEY SOMEBODY STOP HIM
>>732992572If the game was good people would like it.Simple as.
i'd play highguard everyday if the characters looked like this. easy $10 million revenue a month for them too. it's literally this easy, western devs.
>>732994171Same
>>732993323Conservatives don't actually want good things, they want things to be bad forever and then complain about them and blame others
>>732992572>Josh SOBEL>Sobel is an Ashkenazi Jewish surname originating from Eastern Europe, commonly derived from the Yiddish basedbl or Slavic sobol, meaning "sable". It typically originated as an occupational surname for a fur trader or a nickname for someone with dark, luxurious hair. It is also found in variants like Sobol, Zobel, and Sobell. The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you
>game is completely unremarkable in terms of art, world settings and mechanics and is rubbing the worst F2P practices directly into players face from minute 1>absurd limitations in player count, slapped on top of big, empty maps>lacking any clear direction, 'road map' is showing nothing else but incoming microtransactions galoreYeah, the fail of this turd is for sure a plot of these racist internet right-alts
>Everyone who played it loved it and said "I could play this game all day">Game launches and has an incredible amount of players>They all drop it immediately and game dies>"Must be because of content creators"Yeah?
>>732992572>Many didn't even finish the required tutorial.Really, they didn't finish the tutorial after being introduced to the QTE mining minigame?
Always someone or something else at fault for your shortcomings, never yourself and your decisions. A tale as old as time. It doesn't matter, good games will keep coming out and be loved while shit will continue to waste money and time.
>>732993323Gamers love to shit on bad games. If companies made good games everyone would be happy.
>>732993208KEK why do they keep saying that? this has to be on purpose
>>732992572>At launch, we received over 14k review bombs from users with less than an hour of playtime. >Many didn't even finish the required tutorial.How many is "many"? They have that data. Why didn't they share it? 15 is "many". Was it 15 players of their 14,000 negative reviews that didn't finish the tutorial? Why did they post a number for one piece of information and not the other, since they have said data?
90k people tried the game and only 3k remained.>>732993059Sega avoided making Concord 0.5 by just cancelling it and it faded into obscurity.They wrote it all off as loses on their taxes.
>>732994463But according to this place anything that isn't decades old, pixel unc slop (nostalgia) is bad.
>>732994456>good games will keep coming out and be lovedI wish that were true but the majority of the games that normalfags cream themselves over on here are just as bad
>>732994537>only AAA games existcringe
> AIIIEEE MY CREATIVE ENDEAVOR HAS A RIGHT TO BE SUCCESSFUL
>>732992572>everyone on the team loved it! >gamers are just toxic!ah, another case of toxic positivity and a developer so far up their own farts they can't see the shit game they are making before it comes out.95k players to 1k players. Thats a fail.
>>732994557Or maybe you have very niche tastes.
>>732992572He still has a better grasp on reality then PCGamer, who claims it didn't flop because more people played it then random shovelware. >Keeping a studio going, and perhaps one day iterating your way to hit territory, may be the only kind of success it's reasonable to shoot for. Almost half of the games released on Steam last year received fewer than 10 user reviews. Highguard has done quite well by comparison! It's only a flop next to the very rare games that are immediately massive hits.
>>732994557No, they're not. /v/ hates any game but at the same time, /v/ is a very vocal very small minority. Yeah you can call Witcher 3 or BG3 or whatever shit games but the reality is that they're not, it's just your jaded viewpoint. With Highguard however, that jaded viewpoint is shared by many more people, so many that there isn't an actual audience left for the game. If 100 people tell you your game is shit, you can safely tell them off. If 100k people tell you your game is shit, something's wrong on a more fundamental level and that game didn't resonate with anyone.
It's amazing how clueless people always end up in top. They didn't figure out that anyone who had any personal stake on project would glaze it? Retards
>>732993323Not just that, but /v/ hangs onto a narrative even when it was blatantly false. Look no further than>Mary...where the FUCK are you?threads to see one of the best examples.
>>732994814>everyone on the team said it was great and so it is and EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG!imagine being this narcissistic or just can't admit you fucked up.The Friday Night at Freddys developer made some weird shit game at first and everyone called it shit. He refused to admit it was shit but then when he took the feedback at face value, he made a horror game instead and now his rich.Also, of course his team didn't say it was shit or give negative feedback because they would've been FIRED for being le toxic.
What's with the "Lightning in a bottle" overuse? Diablo 2 expansion article has it too, and yesterday there was also /v/ thread with lightning in a bottle as thread topic. Is there some kind of psyop going on?
>f2p that totally depends on people to buy skins for the characters>the charactersAnd in fact, it's normal they thought the characters were fine since Apex has the same shitty designs.
>>732994724>indie games only getting 10 reviews is the same as a 80+ employee company of industry veterans going from 90k players to 3k on a free game
>>732994906it's how bots recognize other bot posts
>>732994906every company or dev wants the next Halo, the next COD, the next Fortnite, the next Minecraft etc.You've got tons of games fighting over "team PvP 1st/3rd person game" at the moment because Fortnite can't be dethroned.
>>732992572>Your days are fucking numbered economic terrorists.so.....umm....Terrorist win I guess
>>732994975>every company or dev wants the next Halothey better go look at the state halo is in right now then kek
>>732992572>unbiased feedbackNo it wasn't.>we had a blastBecause you have shit taste in games.
>>732992572That Highguard dev also mentions that black obese Alyssa Mercante simp, Kahlief Adams of The Spawnies.
>>732995008i meant Bungie Halo level of sales/success, which has long passed.I should've said "the next Destiny/Warframe"
>enter established genre (Overwatch, Marvel Rivals)>make larger maps>but its only 3v3>ugly characters>lots of downtime between fights>lots of walking to next static objective>looting, which is uselesshmm, I wonder why it bombed? Nah, It was a good idea. Must've been those toxic gamers!
Shut the fuck up. Stop making threads about this shitty game.I don't give two shots if it bombed or not. It's crap. Online gaming is inherently normie and I don't even want to read about it. Fuck off.
>>732994975these guys wanted the next Apex legends, but instead of EA taking a cut and giving it to hundreds of employees it was just going to be them
>>732994975Everyone knows that, I'm referring to the specific phrase lightning in a bottleOP pic has oneThis is the diablo article >>732967195This is the /v/ thread >>732972921It's not an uncommon term but it popped too many times in a short time.
>>732994906It's a term people tend to use for things that totally shouldn't have succeded(according to them) but did anyway.I guess in business terms it would mean something like "thing that shouldn't be popular according to our analysts' estimates", which implies that they want to give themselves more credibility to know what market wants than people using that market, or at least they try to push that idea on to the masses. Classic corporate hubris.
>>732993639The only thing missing from those testimonials is someone saying it was a "Blast" to play
>>732994904>Friday Night at Freddysjej...
>>732992572>had a blastlmao
>>732995346Im guessing the frennie mind poisoning is slowly working
sir this is a wendy's where is my food
>>732993939The GOTY is millennial.
>>732993654they spent 10 million or more on this
>>732994265>Conservatives don't actually want good thingsNah that's you fagggots freaks who see good things and wish only to destroy them.
>>732994724I refuse to believe the bribery checks are big enough to actually motivate these dipshits to write stuff this genuinely retarded and full of obvious lies. What is actually motivating this stupid shit at this point?
>>732995835$10mil doesn't even cover 1 year of salaries for the devs
>>732995830Derivative but the whole indie scene was born with millennials. Meanwhile borccoli heads don't create anything, they just play minecraft and fortnite, nothing but shit kick streamers will come out of gen Z, the gayest, most useless generation ever.
>>732992634MAKE HIM DO SOMETHING!!
>>732995942I could, but I won't *joins in*
>>732992634AAIIEEEEEE!
>>732994904Kys spic fuck
>>732994910The chicks look ok but it can't save a bad game
>>732992572How about you make a good game?Who wants to play this shit?You almost feel bad for these retards. Almost.
But I don't even like or play multiplayer fps? >still labeled a terrorist
>>732995986We're going bankrupt and you're doing NOTHING!!
>>732993654Let's just be generous and assume 30k people are playing across PC, Xbox, and Playstation. Even if every single one of those players bought $100 of paid currency once a month and no storefront took a cut of that money that's only $3,000,000 per month. The average salary in Woodland Hills, CA is $65,417 while in Seattle, WA it's $98,628.According to Wildlight they had around 100 employees before the layoffs. Even if you want to say 50 are in CA and 50 are in WA that means the people in CA cost them $3,270,850 a month and the people in WA cost them $4,931,400. This isn't even factoring renting the two buildings in those areas or the servers necessary to host the game. Even if they're using AWS they're still paying quite a lot of money for this.https://aws.amazon.com/gamelift/servers/pricing/According to this they'd be paying thousands of dollars a month just hosting servers for that many people, likely more since I just ballpark estimated for that one.
>>732993323People in general prefer to love someone fail and crash than watching someone succeed. It's always been like that and it will always be.Just because Cyberpunk is not buggy anymore it doesn't mean it's good.
>game isn't even released yet>pretty much nobody has seen it, nobody talks about it, nobody wants it>"it's lightning in a bottle!"that's not how it works. you can't just declare something as popular before the people even know it exists. What the fuck is wrong with these corporate types.
>>732992572>but ignore the fact that when their negative-leaning content gets 10x the engagement of the positive, they’ve got just as much incentive to lean into a disingenuous direction, whether consciously or not.This is the only actual point here, that there's a clear monetary incentive for people to be negative in their coverage as opposed to offering real critique or even hype. However, at some point, the game has to do the work.
>>732993323how many genders are there?
>>732995937The oldest zoomer is like 28. A little young, no? Not that I doubt it but I'd reserve my judgment for a few more years.
>>732992634I am with you
>>73299661238,5
>>732996565Arrogant determinists who think their ideas are so good they're on par with truly innovative, classic games but in reality they just came up with an idea so complicated (but unfocused and boring) that nobody else tried it before.
>>732996441>People in general prefer to love someone fail and crash than watching someone succeedBullshit. Yes, people love to see their enemies fail, but most of them are indifferent towards them and prefer to see the people they love succeed. The only people who prefer watching failure over success are those that do not love anyone (like communists or africans for example).
>>732996647and the guys who made the big indie games did it in their 20s
Online Hero Shooters are a dead genre like MMORPGs. Everyone is burned out on that shit. It's not easy money, it's almost guaranteed flop actually, MAKE SOMETHING ELSE.
>>732992572Natural born cuckold.>millenial financial curseWhat does he mean, astronimcal political corruption, the exposed pedo ring running the west and their friends, making social policy via (failing) business and wonky business strategies (hi folx!!! Come metaverse!!! :::33), what exactly is this curse he speaks about?
>>732992572Maybe they should have considered that the people who were giving them all that praise actually had no fucking idea what the general public wants?The biggest problem with the gaming industry over the last decade has been a complete disconnect between the devs and the players, where the devs end up in this walled off space of positive feedback from the suits that own them, who don't play games themselves but instead base everything off of "market analysis" and "projected data", so their opinions about a project are actually completely fucking worthless because they DO NOT KNOW what people want, they just take guesses based off of past successesback in the 90's you would get studios like id software, who were just a bunch of absolute fucking nerds who loved games and wanted to make games that they wanted to play, not just games they thought might "sell well based on market analysis", and that is why a bunch of nerds became millionaires and pioneered one of the most dominant genres to this day, because they actually fucking enjoyed games and interacted with other people who did the sameand back in the 90's games journalists had fucking TEETH, they would tear your game apart if it was no good, there wasn't this stupid kid-gloves "lowest score is a 7" bullshit you see today, so devs weren't being coddled by inflated scores that were paid for by their publisher, they had to put in the work if they wanted to make a game that scored highlyif the dev in the OP quote were to release a game of Highguard's comparative quality back in the 90's or early 2000's, then the kind of backlash he's receiving now would look like child's play
>>732996804>The only people who prefer watching failure over success are those that do not love anyoneSo 90% of faggots on /v/
>>732996965Industry is dead set on monetising multiplayer. Cyberpunk was scrapped and restart form scratch because they couldn't make the multiplaywe work. Gamedevs are a sad thing to observe.
mein fuhrer... relooted has hit single digits
>>732993323Social media is simplyTalk good about good games, your engagement will do wellTalk shit about shit games, your engagement will do wellTry doing the opposite for both of them and see how it'll work out for you.As shrimple as that
>>732996804Not true. Panem et circenses.What do you think the circus part means? It's watching retardes die in gruesome ways, eaten by lions and such.You don't understand human nature.
>>732992572Damn maybe they shouldnt have been high while guarding, then their money wouldnt have disappeared so quickly
>>732993323CD Projekt Red literally lied about Cyberpunk and what they promise and dialed it back to the point that regardless of updates the base game is an unfinished mess and the post patch game is a mediocre bore fest. There's a reason people still play New Vegas to this day despite being janky because the core gameplay, writing and DLC is great. You'd know if you weren't a cum guzzling shill.
>>732993323Just no man.
i almost did try it until it required secure boot i will NOT turn on that malware
When did this mentality of "I worked hard on it so it has to be worth something" start? You're not owed anything because you wasted years of your time on it.
>>732997256>There's a reason people still play New Vegas to this dayYeah, browns and poors can run it on their old shitty toasters. Cyberpunk is still averaging 30k players.
>>732994134It really is that simple.But then again sometimes a steaming pile of shit releases and people still like it.
>>>732992572>they’ve got just as much incentive to lean into a disingenuous direction, whether consciously or not.many tried to do this with E33 and got BTFO. Just make a good game.
>>732992572Imagine believing you are entitled to sales. Corporations did go woke after all
>>732997172Wrong. What you see on /v/ is just the fact that a lot more woke slop AAA games keep failing than actually good games succeeding, simply because there is so much woke slop and so little quality.>>732997221Wrong. Watching retards die in gruesome ways is not human nature, it's entertainment for the subhuman. You won't a circus on earth anymore that does this, and you won't find a real human who enjoys it, kike.
>>732992634PRESIDENT OBAMA GET DOWN
>>732992984>We were having a blast, how could our shitty mid hero shooter with boring and repulsive character designs fail?
>>732997309probably around the time the first north american business was bailed out using tax dollars>wait, if I have enough employees, i can do everything wrong and have someone else foot the bill for me>if i can make it take ten years between initial pitch and delivered product, the benefits will vastly outweigh the minor reputation damageaccountability is dead
>>732997441Yet whenever a good game succeeds, there will be endless seething about that as well. E33 is probably the best, recent example of this. Great game, vast majority of people agree it's fantastic, yet when you come here fags will act like it's the worst thing ever and nowhere near as good as some fucking SNES pixelslop or whatever.
>>732997441No but you still have people who enjoy watching retarded devs fail.You are low iq.
>>732997097Data analysis became a curse for modern society. Literally the source of soulless.
>>732992572Why make another overwatch clone i don't get it
>>732997551play more games
>it's not our games that are the problem, it's the customersevery other industry would foam at the mouth to have their customers reject high fidelity, mass appeal, 150 hours of voice lines in 10 different languages, etc. and prefer to play cat-fucking flash games. why the hell is my hobby so infested with financial subterfuge
/v/ doesn't want good games to fail/v/ wants shitty games to failit just happens that most games that come out today are like highguard, shitit would be preferable to have good games, but devs refuse to make them
>>732997540Not the best gets the promotion, but the one that doesn't question management. Tale old as time. If you read diaries and other text from the past, you are soon realising shit hasn't changed one bit.
>>732992572People literally dropped the game hours after playing it, what is he on about?
>>732992634STOP THIS MAD MAN
>>732997551Oh no! A bunch of anons criticize a popular video game? On a fucking video game forum? How can that be? That surely means that nobody here loves to see a good game succeed! Let's completely ignore all the positive video game threads and people constantly getting excited for new ones! There are currently 3 anons hating on the game in a thread, it's fucking over!>>732997593Yes, you still have people who enjoy watching retarded devs fails, including me. Your point, kike?
>>732997441>b-but we don't let people get eaten by lions anymore!There is a reason why it's a figure of speech. The point is people enjoy watching the misery of others, they find it entertaining.Denying reality won't change it.
>>732997665I never saw a negative pixel character. Or is he invisible?
What is it so hard to understand about this:If you don't want to be ridiculed don't be ridiculous
>>732997607If they were actually properly analyzing data then we would actually get games that people want, instead of shitty garbage that no one wants.
>>732997734>Let's completely ignore all the positive video game threadsi wish.AAA goons flood those threads with "shill" accusations and "buy an ad"
>>732997734My point has always been the same, my very low iq friend. See >>732997745The fact that you call me a "kke" when I'm not even expressing an opinion on the phenomenon is hilarious. I'm just describing reality.
>>732993048Is it perhaps too powerful for you? Pleb.
>>732997745Nigger the roman circus was for chariot races not gladiator combat. The figure of speech refers to entertainment contenting the mind while food contents the body not watching others fail.
>>732995853It's even worse than bribery checks they genuinely believe they are doing a public service by lying to you.
What is wrong with them. No one forced them to adopt the "if this game doesn't sell 10 million scamboxes in the first week then we have to fire everyone" business model and yet they still defend their masters
>>732997745And where did I say that people don't enjoy it? What I said is that the majority of people prefer so see success of the things they love. Fans want to see their team win. Parents want to see their children succeed. Most people couldn't care less about their enemies. They get a smirk from me when they fail, but I'm sure as hell won't pay for front row tickets. Vermin, be gone.
>>732992572The idea that a bunch of internet hate can make a game fail is complete cope. Good games will always win out regardless of the shit posted online.These people talk too much about negativity being constructive, they need to start realizing that the bigger issue is the positivity they're receiving isn't. You're being praised routinely by individuals that are absolutely fucking terrified of hurting someones feelings and being seen as 'slanderous' and an 'asshole'. It creates a false sense of security and puts these people into compromising situations that they have no excuse for other than "oh the evil sloptuber must be the reason we failed, every limp wristed faggot in the industry was telling us we were amazing and special and great and brown nosing us constantly".You made a bad game. The people you associate with were too terrified to tell you otherwise because you're all a bunch of emotionally immature millennial children that can't handle negativity. That's what happened.
>>732997846Then why are you still here?
>>732998046erp threads
>>732997932>Nigger the roman circus was for chariot races not gladiator combatWhat the fuck are you talking about?>>732998000>Fans want to see their team winThere's only one thing that fans love more to see than their team winning and that is their rivals losing in a cathastrophic way. The joy people felt all over Italy when Inter lost the Champions League final 5-0 was far greater than the joy they would have felt were their team to win the final.If you don't understand this, you don't understand humanity.
>>732998091don't admit so casually that you are part of the cancer that infests online communities
>>732992692They didn't get the memo that trailers are for false advertising
>>732997932It's not even necessarily gladiator games, they had public executions of Christians.
>>732993059Well hyenas was first. If anything the concord devs are the omes that should have taken the hint. The problem is these devs still seem to think the people from /rgamingcirclejerk and other online fagspaces are a real consumer base. Instead its like a relatively small amount of homos that will defend your game for online brownie points then go back to self inserting as mercy or another actually appealing character
>>732998135>The joy people felt all over Italy when Inter lost the Champions League final 5-0 was far greater than the joy they would have felt were their team to win the finalYou think there were bigger celebrations about watching a sports team fail than when their own team won?Anon, you are utterly retarded. You are the subhuman I was talking about before: you only feel joy when you see failure, and you project your sociopath onto the rest of humanity like it is the most normal thing on earth. Sorry for calling you kike earlier - that would imply you are at least a midwit. But in reality, you are just brown.
>>732997834That's another story altogether. Every clown can get a certificate, while it's stochastics, especially stasticis and data management. These fields are vast and can't be mastered in little time.
Why is my game failing? We played it over and over at the office. This is lightning in a bottle. There's no way this will flop. We invested millions and everyone on the team was so passionate and poured their heart into every second of this game. Everyone is unfairly review bombing my game having only played less than an hour. Why is this happening? No we didn't do any market research, yes we saw the other 500 games just like it fail, but everyone else loves the other game just like it and we are truly innovating here. Our pong game has great gameplay and stunning visuals. We innovated by implementing a button that lets you do a special serve. This sets us apart but everyone is still sending us so much unwarranted hate. Fuck you all, I will have the last laugh. When my pong game gets delisted next week I will form another studio with the scraps of whoever is left here and we will make another game that is the exact same thing, it can't possibly fail.
>>732998135You're genuinely retarded lmao.
>>732998264>thinks if you describe reality you agree with it>calls you retardedI don't think it, I observe it and so can you.>>732998340Nice argument.
>>732993323no. Gamers are fed up with slop being marketed to acceptance instead of a game just being fun.
>>732994265This level of projection is extreme but not unexpected
>>732992634NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT
Who the fuck lost money then?
>>732998135>people watch sports >people pick their favourite teams in sports>they buy merchandice from their favourite teams>people make chants surrounding their favourite teams and cheer for their wins>actually they like watching other teams lose more than they like seeing theirs win because some italian club did something retarded and pissed off people were happy to see them get their karma one timethat is some impressive brain damage. gotta be some sort of shitskin innit.
>>732997375You almost had it. Modern programmers only know how to use Unreal poorly and the shitty performance of games is a dumb to have been the pursuit of half the development time.GRAPHICS AGE unless it is a style. For the last 2 decades every company is retarded. If your game is good it will get a graphical remake anyways. No games are at the level to ever have a modern remake they are all shit. Look at The Last of Us that did it. People preferred the old style anyways and copies were plenty in the wild.
>>732998440Thanks. The truth often is.
>>732993639>>732992572This visual design of this game is a fucking travisty. It's not specific at all. No direction. Nobody knew how to tell the bitches making it, no.
>>732998012I think the feedback can be honest while also being misguided and unhelpful. The problem is that feedback is given in the context of an experience, and that experience is naturally focused towards the game you're developing. Either its a dedicated focus group or everyone knows you're making that game. So they answer questions like "Is the game fun?" and "How can we make the game better?" and people can earnestly say "Yes" and "You should adjust X Y Z" in a constructive manner. But regular gamers are not in a focus group session, their attention is pulled towards a dozen different games. The real questions are things like "Is the game more fun than its competitors?" and "How can we give you a reason to play this game instead of its competitors?", but these are abstract and require people to think about their emotional states at an undetermined point in the future, so they're going to be far less willing or able to give quality feedback. So they go years getting positive feedback from people focused on their game and then fail to hold the attention of people who come home from work tired and are focused on anything but their game.
>>732998297>no battlepass exclusive platform skins>no background jpg DLCs>no announced esports tournaments>no streamer guest appearencesHow do you even call this a game, my man?
>>732992572>internal feedback from unbiased sources?????????i think he's just a retard who likes yes men
>>732992572>All products are at the whims of the consumersNo shit Sherlock...And these are the """senior"""" devs. Fuck sake even a 17 y.o. who works part time at a supermarket has more business experience.
>>732992572why is the game industry like this in the film industry if you're in a bad movie it's whatever, you still get work, plenty of actors and crew do bad moviesbut god forbid a game dev works on a horrible fucking video gameI get it, game does bad so company lays off the team. That sucks. Don't blame the fucking consumer though, blame your fucking faggot bosses.
>>732992572All they needed to do was not make the MC look like a ugly troon/dike.
>>732998582>If your game is good it will get a graphical remake anywaysAnd if a game gets a remake faggots will complain about that.
>>732998562You must be American if you don't understand what I said about hating other teams. Americans don't have real sports or organized fans and the teams have no ties to the place the play at, nor do the inhabitants for that matters, so they can't understand it, I suppose.>>732998614It's only fitting for someone that can't understand figures of speech not to be able to understand irony either.
>>732994470It's that strange low impact fake folksy relatable speak that lefties love to use like "y'all" and "gosh darn". It's funny to see liberals turn into puritan pearl clutching southern evangelical types but Jesus isn't their God whatever corpo they work for is
>>732992572I saw a video from MaxDood who basically confirmed that toxic positivity is letting people make terrible gamesThis is why you need a Miyamoto-like personSomeone who isn’t afraid to tell you to scrap everything and start again
>>732998796i mean it's similar in that it doesn't matter, plenty of devs working on absolute flops continue to get work. Some of the concord devs worked on highguard.
>>732998796Because one makes profit still
>this game is going to feature superhuman people in high tech battle suits that can fly and launch energy projectiles>but it will also have ak47s and normal horses for these superhuman people that can fly to ride onwhat the actual fuck where they thinking?how can they make this and see nothing wrong with it at all?
>>732992572I don't know why, but I actually feel bad for people like this. It's like they're in a bubble.
>>732993323>Muh gamersStopped there
>>732992572>Highguard dev: "If You Didn't Play Highguard I Should Legally Be Able to Kill You"Where does he literally say that?
>>732993746Nigga can you count? There's quite a difference between 2k and 16k
>>732993323>And then there's games like Cyberpunk, which launched in a very poor state, but the devs spent several years fixing and polishing it until it objectively was a fantastic game,stopped reading there, you made me laugh, good one
>>732999383Find out how much they earned and what their houses look like and those feelings will pass
>>732992786holy shit thats elon musk!!
>>732992572Was Highguard even that bad compared to shit like Concord/Lawbreakers or was it just an instance of being the straw that broke the camel's back after years of dogshit realistic pseudo-scifi aesthetic multiplayer AAA heroshooter flops, along with being highlighted in the TGA's + being the next release after Concord.
>>732999463maybe it's because I do not give a fuck about eating the rich that I have this perspective, honestly
>>732992786None of these people look like they play video games. Not even the white and asian men. Why did they think they could make a video game?
>>732992961Shocked this debuted at 100k but hey if you somehow squandered that sorta player number then it's a game issue rather than a player one.
>>732999509it's not aggressively terrible but it's very boring and is clearly just them taking like 3 or 4 different ideas and mashing them together. It's also 3v3 which adds to how boring it is. They added a 5v5 mode after 2 weeks and i gave that a try, i thought it was a little more fun but it only made it into like a 5/10 instead of a 4/10 imo. Just not worth spending time on
>>732999509the only experience I have with it is seeing a video of someone apologizing & stating he's going to leave the match prematurely because he's simply that fucking bored and it was the first match he playedI don't think I've ever played a multiplayer game where I gave up on the game midway through the first match
>>732999509It didn't even have ugly DEI ragebait to make it stand out like concord and lawbreakersit was just utter noise at the end of the dayit was the kind of generic thing you'd expect to see as part of a TV/Movie's "main character is playing a non-copyright video game for this scene" before moving on to the rest of the plot
>>732998562It's obviously a social and psycho social thing above anything else.
>>732992572dont care didnt ask hope the devs go homeless haha
>>732992961>There was no slander. The audience saw the trailer and they said "This looks like another dime a dozen modern fantasy game. How could they ever have thought that another game like this was a good idea?"You obviously don't speak suit.>make something that looks good to you, as it looks exactly like other successful thing>present it online>potential buyer detest it>I made something worthwhile, so it their fault, they don't know what quality is!>our company was a victim of economic terrorism>I'm a survivor, like an epstein survivor and will get goverment gibs and write a series of books about my psychological trauma
>>732992572The subjects of these threads become more and more unhinged.
>>732993239They blasted off again!
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>>732992786Yeah nah, you can tell straight away by the physiognomy and soi faces. This is what your dev team should look like if you want to make a decently good game.
>>732993323Look at all these seething repliesButthurt incels fell for it again lol
>>732992572Your gay, reposted dogshit aside, one thing I find funny is that it wasn't just the people they accuse who disliked the game, but even your average limp-wristed, leftist faggot didn't like it. Sure, you shouldn't base your opinions purely on anecdotal evidence or personal experiences, but literally everyone I know of who's talked about the game, whether on the left, right or anywhere in between, has universally ridiculed the game and criticized it for being ridiculously generic, silly and devoid of anything interesting or new. That actually surprised me, given the pearl-clutching nature of leftists and other pussies.The only ones I've ever seen who actually don't criticize the game or defend the devs, are a handful of left-wing "journalists", but they're shills by nature, so that's to be expected.
>>732994473Especially since people not finishing the tutorial before deciding the game is not for them is pretty standard, if you look at Steam achievements.If anything it's a testament of how bad your game is. Actual pure haters wouldn't even bother launching the tutorial at all.
>>733001040The customer is king. He's always right. You cannot critize the buyer. He demands, he decides.
>>732995853They get games to review before actual launch date if they are good boys.That's enough to get them to sell their souls.
>large maps>3v3
>>732992572>All products are at the whims of the consumersYes as they should be.
>>733001769They needed the large maps...to justify adding mounts. Truly, expert game design from experienced devs
>>732993654>>732995835>clearly a cheap janky game They spent 200 million dollars making this game. The budget was obscene for such a shitty product. No wonder they're pissed it flopped so badly
>>732994814It's logic tho.Being competent at producing something and being a hierarchy climber are two vastly different skillset.Any non-fresh company having all of upper management made of guys who fake no fucking clue how the business actually work is pretty much a law of nature.
>>732993059That game would have probably killed Sega for real. It looked like complete garbage. Good for them for having a least a little sense
>>733001709It's more than that. You can be DMCA'd for using gameplay footage commercially, you can be C&D'd for libel. A publisher can make a reviewers life hell if they want to, and the big outlets have enough money to make it worthwhile.Reviewers basically need to tie the party line if they want to work in the field. If you're a shit disturbed you need to stay too small to notice. We call this manufactured consent.
>>732994910>araboid mutt>niggress with 0.1% chink blood>albino faggot>the direction assistant from accounting (the karen one, not the hot one)>fat nigga with a dying liver>that one aunt who was probably really pretty 20 years ago>the jock everyone want to punch in the face, including the other jocks... it's not bottom of the barrel only by virtue of said bottom having fallen in a black hole long ago and being technically impossible to reach even on purpose.They would need a "Meet the Team"-tier series to save that shit, but I doubt they have any chance of doing it.
>>733001912
>>732995131>stop having funNo.>>732997183This one fully deserve the flop. Highguard could have been whatever, but negroes' delusional history re-writing fantasies NEEDED to be put back in its rightful place.
>>732992572Nothing this guy said is wrong. The mainstream video game industry had their TORtanic moment and now a bunch of Indians on twitter who repost /v/ screenshots for money have become obsessed with literally every game they think will fail.
>>732993654TF2C has around the same player count and it's a mod for a game that overwatch take inspiration from.
im a sad pathetic virgin neet loser and I didnt play their game, I'm glad that upsets them
>>732992634let's OOOOHHMMM together anon
>>732998297https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/u75rh/juice_it_or_loose_it_how_to_make_a_game_feel/
>>732992572>internal>unbiasedwew
>>732993323>games like Cyberpunk, which launched in a very poor state, but the devs spent several years fixing and polishing it until it objectively was a fantastic gameManipulative language. I guess it's a fantastic sci-fi themed rip-off of GTA for all the brainless normies who love GTA and GTA-likes.But even after all the fixes, the game is still not what they sold me and many others on. It's not an RPG. There are none of the classic Cyberpunk classes. There's no deep RPG elements, just half asses crap.
>>732992572I killed Highguard by not buying it and not caring about it
>>732992572I genuinely always feel a little bad for devs when a project fails, regardless of however obvious said failure would be, simply because it sucks seeing all your efforts go to waste and to get a ton of vitriol for it. So on a certain level I sympathize.That said it should have been obvious to anyone with their ear to the ground that this would go nowhere. It has no sauce and the market is already oversaturated. There seems to be something about the AAA space that just blocks out common sense, and what's worse I can't think of anyone who came out on top. Investors lose money, devs lose their jobs, and we the audience just move on. Who on earth thought this would be a good idea?
>>733002306Not just indians, don't forget zooms are a big part of the problem. They are the king of prejudice and bias.
>>732993059Apparently all their "unbiased feedback" didn't reflect the market's sentiment. They aren't just in a bubble within the studio, everyone they interacted with was apparently in the same bubble. I find it hard to imagine how you even manage that. They have a point about how content creators are farming shit like this, and I'm not even a hater I'm indifferent on the whole thing but even I saw the moment they put that mulatto on screen it was going to die very soon after launch. They can't just shift the blame to negative feedback. Hell even the argument that people didn't even beat the tutorial and judged unfairly is nonsense, every bit of footage ive seen made it look like it controlled sluggish and cumbersome, you don't need to play the game for very long to realize you hate how it feels to do anything in the game
>>733003108It's also entirely fair to quit during the tuorial on release because it ran like shit for lots of people. My shit rig managed to run it seemingly fine, although i immediately noticed that most of the ground texture was missing and after experimenting realized that one of the graphics settings set to medium or high would just make most of the ground be invisible. I pushed through because i was genuinely curious but there should be no expectation that a player will deal with that shit.
>>732997097>who don't play games themselves but instead base everything off of "market analysis" and "projected data", so their opinions about a project are actually completely fucking worthless because they DO NOT KNOW what people want, they just take guesses based off of past successesOne of the wildest things I've heard recently is that the devs of Helldivers 2 don't actually play the game themselves, they just balance everything by analysing spreadsheets.
>>732997540
Can someone here who played the game explain what this game actually is or does?It seemed to me like a first person SMITE clone, but I have zero interest in playing with that disgusting art style and it requiring Secure Boot/TPM.
>>732992572>the internal pre-reveal feedback, even from unbiased sources, was quite positive>unbiased sources
>Gamers don't even want good games!>They just want to see games fail!Try making a good game first before you start talking shit>Youtubers and grifters trickers gamers into not liking our game!Everyone knew it was going to be shit in 0.3 seconds when they saw the la creatura zoomoid mutt, before Asmongold even reacted we all internally hated itThe weirdest thing about leftists is they can't even entertain the idea that people can think for themselves, everything is the fault of some big bad right winger tricking them into hating woke slop, as opposed to whats actually happening, everyone hates the wokeslop and youtubers simply echo that hateIt's pure projection as they themselves cannot make a decision without first consulting the group to make sure they don't engage with wrong thinkLike they actually can't believe that you don't want niggers living next door to you, that you must have been led astray and that everyone by default would of course love diversity
>>733004105it starts with a minute of "reinforcing" your base, which just boils down to upgrading 12 walls to make it so they take half a second longer to break, then you and your two teammates run around on a big empty map gearing up while waiting for the flag to spawn, you take the flag to the enemy base while skirmishing with them, then if you get it there you "raid" their base, and you fight them again with limited lives basically playing a mini counter strike match where you plant bombs on their objectives.
>>733004331That does not sound appealing at all.
>>732992572If they wanted this to be successful, they should’ve tied it to an existing IP
>>733004778wouldn't work the base game was too shitrivals only works because it's overwatch
>>733004105>what this game actually is or does?MOBA+PUBG+CSGOlightning in a bottle
>The INTERNAL pre-reveal feedback, even from UNBIASED sources, was quite positive>INTERNAL>UNBIASEDemphasis mine, these retards are so far gone it's unreal. If the CTO asks fucking interns what they think of the game they're going to do everything in their power to glaze the fuck out of it. Of course everyone involved with the project is going to be biased on it, what the fuck were they thinking
>>733002104Sweet. How much money did they burn?
>>733005034I believe they genuinely thought it was good bc everyone was a retard working on COD and other AAA crap.
>>733005106estimated $100M
>>732993512you're retarded. look again faggot. also kill yourself as you just proved your eye sight is shit and there is no need for your genetics to continue
Why are people even mad about this? He's right. Hating this became a meme long before it came out.The hate was disproportionate to how generic this shit looked.
>>733002104>The sonic cosplayer is the only character that looks good because his face is hiddenThat's fucking hilarious.
>>733005141As someone who works in tech and deals with the engineering process, I think the big problem in the vast majority of these cases is scope around UAT and feedback questions. Because the designers are so focused on specific mechanics or systems, they're not spending the necessary time asking how these systems interact with each other to make a compelling loop. In a play session, if you're being asked exclusively what do you think about X mechanic, whether (for Highguard) that was the looting, base building, horse riding, pvp combat, etc. you're being asked to provide direct and concise feedback on only that mechanic. This makes it so the team is seeing positive feedback across a wide range of mechanics because sure, if those mechanics are being weighed on their own they're entertaining enough. The base building was a cool system, but in the grand scheme it was completely pointless. The horse riding was a convenient way to travel quickly, but the map was obviously designed for more players so it was actually just a band-aid to fix a bad design. I think this is the primary issue with these games where there is no clear direction, because they give each "product manager" a mechanic to own and there is no actual creative mind / director to pull everything together into a cohesive, enjoyable experience
>>733005386The hate was BECAUSE of how generic and HR approved it looked. Utterly soulless products designed only to extract your time and money should be hated and the people who make these products should be hated.
>>733005386>Hating this became a meme long before it came out.you are a retarded turd
>>732992572Just don't make all of your male characters gay coded. Is it REALLY that hard? This game was dead from the very first frame of the trailer. Every other reason is just noise and cope.
>>732994910Baffling. Utterly baffling.
>>733005519They are just incompetent hacks fired from AAA studios, guess why they got fired.
>>732994910These look like characters in a chinese tekken knockoff
>>733005386/v/ will never be ready for a TRVKE like this
>>732992572Now send this to every single person developing a game, especially those that want people to see it at game awards so that they can realize for fucking once in their lives what people do and don't want. If it scares 85% of the industry away, good, it needs culled. The last 15%? They'll crumble eventually or ACTUALLY make a good game that people want
>>733005519Woke people are into things because they are popular. Not because they are into those things. That is why they don't understand what makes these game mechanics compelling. They see Rainbow Six Siege style fortification mechanics are popular. So they put it in the game. Woke people are al about surface level and shallow understanding of things because they were never really into those things in the first place. They are cultural opportunists that jump on trends.
>>733005206Glad
>>732992572If they made their game with cute animal people it would have done well, prove me wrong
>>733005510That's always the case. The more propaganda is needed to keep your social structure together, the blinder people parroting the propaganda will become. Soviet union's hyper normal.
>>733006110It certainly wouldn't have hurt.
>>732992572inshahala, motherfucker
>>733005386The game had 100k players on steam and still managed to fail so hard that less than a month later half the team has been fired. But surely this has nothing to do with the quality of the game itself, it's those mean gamers that are ruining everything.
>>733003351As someone who has played a lot of Helldivers 2: it shows
>>732994910>1 ok design out of 7you can't fix that when you're making a pseudo hero shooter
>>732992572>Highguard layoffs proves the F2P model is no longer working >t. Polygonoh its just the /model/ folx. these clueless cunts turning 'indie games' into corporate trend chasing wokeslop products should be charging 80 dollars. that would have saved them.
I love how this entire spectacle is exclusively going to make all consumers more hostile and disruptive to big budget trash and fart-sniffing faggot developers.There is no other outcome.This dumb homosexual doesn't know who Barbara Streissand is and it's funny.
>>733005386>The hate was disproportionate to how generic this shit looked.>genericIf by "generic" you mean "gay" then yeah. They were mad because literally every fucking game from the west is gay coded now. Its fucking inescapable. So yeah by that definition its "generic".
>>732992572>Within minutes, it was decided: this game was dead on arrival,This is what burns their ass the most. Years of positive reinforcement from their internal "unbiased" clique, and gamers can recognize instantly that it's flopslop.
Geoff Keighley backed, propped-up, and defended this game as an industry representative with the shittiest most retarded tactics imaginable for one sole reason:He is trying to wake up the cattle. Everyone has no choice but talk about how smug and retarded western developers have become. Everyone has no choice but to discuss the sheer level of stagnation and cynical tastelessness the industry has reached He is the hero we don't deserve.
>>733007110>and gamers can recognize instantly that it's flopslopLiterally from the first frame of the trailer everybody knew.
>>732992572It's funny cause the game had 97250 players at its peak, which means if 14k players left a negative review saying game bad, the game should have 83250 people playing right now.Why is the number of players 2500 instead of 83250 then? What happened to those other 80750 players who decided not to play the game anymore?
>>733006545Buyers are the scourge of the world, it seems.
>I don't want to engage with your product because it sucks>FUCK YOU! PAY ME! >YOU SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO COMPLAIN IN PUBLIC!This is really the path the industry is choosing. The highguard devs are not the only people publicly calling for restrictions on user reviews over this trash.I don't know what they expect to gain. No business on Earth could get away with operating with this attitude. I don't know why they think they will come out on top by trying to normalize open hostility to consumer feedback. It's baffling.
>>733008091It's a free to play game, retard.
>>732992634SOMEONE STOP THAT NAZI FROM NOT BUYING GAMES
>>732992572Of course, he's a JEW.
>>733003108Uhm sweetie, we don't hire problematic grumpy old men, it's all about energy! B-positive!
>>733008196Good news, so they didn't expect money to begin with. How nice of them to work fir free. And here I thought they hate money.
>>733008389Have you ever shown a jew your cross? They all act the same when you shove it in their face. Funny, innit?
>Western devs and their advertisers genuinely want a future where you are not allowed to even discuss a game unless you have paid money and spent a minimum amount of time on their lazy unfun garbageDidn't know I could hate them more. Neat.
>>733005519This is why Auteur theory is important imo. You need someone who has the vision (and accountability) for the cohesive whole. Shame the current trend with soi redditor types is to claim everyone, even the fucking janitor, is a gamedev if they worked at the company thats making a game
>>732993323>"Gamers" love nothing more to shit on gamesYes, because flops are funnier than the average modern game so there is no opportunity cost to something flopping.
>>732992572Geoff the last Highguardian.
>>733008443Oh no you're right they do hate money. They are all communist trannies and faggots.It's why they can't even get people to play a game for free.
Highguard can't even complain about not having a fair chance. the game was free and they had 100k players. The game was thoroughly tested by unbiased players, given a chance and found not worthy.
>>732992572>>We were -- a joke from minute one
>>732993323Actual Highguard dev in the thread, fellas.
>>733003108They cannot know they are in a bubble because they are not allowed to interact with anyone outside of their bubble. To them even interacting with someone from outside of their bubble is a sin. So to them everything looks normal.
>>732993323>"Gamers" love nothing more to shit on gamesYou were begging for it.
>>732992572I bought Mario Tennis instead lol
>>732993323GAMERS WON'T TOLERATE ANY OF THESE JEWISH LIARS ANY LONGER!
>>732994910Apex's characters are genuinely much better though. They're not actively good and people here love to mock them but they at least look distinctive and stylized. Both Concord and Highguard suffered from characters who look too realistic and end up looking like just a bunch of normal people doing cosplay.
>>732993323If you release a game in a shit state you deserve eternal flak for that, no matter how much you improve it.
>>732997256>muh New VegasActually kill yourself, you autistics always find a way to shoehorn your shit game into every conversation.
>>733009156>end up looking like just a bunch of normal people doing cosplayIt's not even normal people, but a bunch of carefully selected DEI monstrosities.
>>733009052That’s even worse, what does fever even have going for it?
>>732997097Their culture does not allow the regular gamers you are referring to to be talked to. They are the enemy to these people. They literally cannot do it. It would be like asking someone to cut off their own arm.
>>733008846Too bad. They ARE complaining and are currently convincing storefronts to oppress user reviews in some way with support from other industry cronies.They want to make it so that the first 2 hours of every game is frontloaded with gameplay fun enough to get around the Steam refund system while reviews are not allowed unless you own the game.The result will be games that are lazy trash but few know unless they waste time and money on it, making it so the devs and publishers don't miss out from buy-tryers.The deception is escalating. The goal is to sell you a black question mark box filled with shit and no refunds.They will get what they want if the average consumer stays as dumb as they are.
>>732992984Remember back in the day when game devs got into actual arguments over their games because they gave a shit and wanted to make something good? Now it's all just empty gestures and shitty compromises resulting in overly generic games. I could've sworn I read about some veteran developer who got into an intense argument with someone else over a modern game and how uncomfortable it made the rest of the team. I wanna say it was Tim Cain discussing how work is like at Obsidian, but I can't find anything about that.
getting basic stuff wrong like the team sizes being too small for the map didn't bode well
The only fucked up part here is that people went full sycophant on this guy. Telling him that his game is the hottest shit ever made and everyone will love it. Based on what? lol
I won't be held responsible for my actions
>>733009448>They ARE complaining and are currently convincing storefronts to oppress user reviews in some way with support from other industry cronies.Luckily Steam doesn't do that.>>733009448>They want to make it so that the first 2 hours of every game is frontloaded with gameplay fun enough to get around the Steam refund system while reviews are not allowed unless you own the game.A lot of games do that. Remember MindsEye? They trapped you in tutorials and unskippable cutscenes for two hours.They again Highguard is free.
>>733009448>get around the Steam refund systemI'm pretty sure there are already dozens of precedents of steam allowing refunds outside of the 2hr mark for games that try to abuse it.
>>733008970why did they make this nigga look like he's suffering from liver failure
>OP headline keeps getting more ridiculous I like it.
>>733009285Imagine working in one of these studios and trying to tell them that a character looks too gay. IMAGINE how that would go down. The trip to HR would be so fast it would break physics.
>>733003108Content creators wouldn't have anything to work with if the game didn't look so fucking bland. People don't look at Highguard and see a generic F2P shooter anymore, they see everything they hate about the modern industry. Maybe stop making those kinds of games, it comes across as cynical trend-hopping that are destined to fail unless you put good character designs in them like Marvel or OW, but most devs aren't gonna go for that anymore.
>>732992572>At launch, we received over 14k review bombs from users with less than an hour of playtime. Many didn't even finish the required tutorial.How fucking stupid do you have to be to delude yourself into believing this. The reason people didn't finish the tutorial or played less than 1 hour was because the game's dogshit, that's it.
>>732992786Here's the old grizzled industry vets I've been telling you about.
>>733009390This.Did you know Gordon Ramsay is physically incapable of making a simple grilled cheese?He literally cannot fry two pieces of bread, melting a blend of cheese in the center. He is incapable of doing it because his brain is ruined by fine-dining. He cuts the bread too thick, burns the outside, fills the center with too much bullshit that isn't cheese, and doesn't even melt the cheese.That's what a modern game dev is like.Their brain is completely ruined by isolation from seeing quality that is bereft of expensive investment and pompous contrarian techniques.They idea of developing something fun is completely beyond them. It simply has to be high art or it isn't made.
>>732994265holy projection what the fuck
>>732997256>There's a reason people still play New Vegas to this day despite being janky because the core gameplay, writing and DLC is great.Also because modders fixed it
>>733009859The character designs are coding for saying "I am part of the religion". It's all just incestuous messaging to their own kind. Its an inside the bubble language that is as natural as breathing to them. That is why every game looks that way. Its why it literally two seconds for gamers to recognize it in he trailer. Its the same woke visual language these people speak to each other in every game. If they don't speak the language they will probably will get called out for it from their own kind. Called out for heresy.
>>732992984It's worse than that, it's literally just>MY MOMMY SAID MY DRAWING IS VERY GOOD AND SHE'S GOING TO PUT ON THE FRIDGE NEXT TO THE OTHERS
>>732992572https://youtu.be/XdofmoYcJNE?si=z-R9SiKCdJ7V0KOB
>>732992572Using and caring about anything that transpires on parasocial, digital daycare-botfarms should lead to the immediate loss of your internet access. You are effectively the precourser to the deluge of AI slop.
I think it's funny how "entitled gamers" is so common to hear, but "entitled devs" isn't.I guess the customers is always at fault for having expectation.
Wasn't this like a live service looter shooter game with microtransactions? How many of these are they going to make?
>>732992572let this be another reminder that the games industry you once loved hates you and wants to brainwash your children.
>>733010607You're an autistic clown who is incapable of understanding any nuance or context. Go play e-crier elsewhere, faggot. Nobody here asked you to protect them from a hilarious shitpost.
>>732994906I had this same concern and ctrl-f l*ghtning *n a bottle in the thread. I will be saying it in my next corporate meeting.
>>732992572>this is lightning in a bottle.More like fart in a jar.
>>732997665They legitimately thought huge maps and a weird knockoff Payload mechanic were big enough selling points to make the game outsell all the old veterans of the genre.People keep making the Concord comparison because it's almost exactly the same reason Concord flopped.I mean, Concord did worse by also having F-tier heroes to pick from and that weird mechanic where you're not allowed to have a main, which didn't help.>>733002104Holy shit, I forgot how bad the characters in Hyenas were going to look, that shit's comical.I really don't get it, why do these niggas keep doing this shit? Do they legitimately think these characters are cool? Are they focus testing with a bunch of Yes Men that give everything they say a standing ovation?
>>732993323I want shit games to bomb, i give my money to good games.
>/v/ kills another woke slop by doing literally nothing/v/ is too powerful
>>732992572>Don't hate the game, hate the player
>>733009859Trend chasing is extra stupid in an age where these devs spend 10 years to make a game. Why bother? By the time they get their game out, the trend's either dead, or all the competition that started the trend are so entrenched that they'll push your shit in by accident.
>>733011415
>>732992572>Highguard dev: "If You Didn't Play Highguard I Should Legally Be Able to Kill You"Where the fuck does he say that?
>>733011539In his heart of hearts
>>733011515You don't understand. If they make another Fortnite it means infinite money.
>>733011539first line, are you blind?
>>732992634>OOOOOOOHHMMMMMM
>>733011260>Are they focus testing with a bunch of Yes Men that give everything they say a standing ovation?Focus testing? What's that? >t. Concord and Highguard dev
>>732992572Imagine not understanding that all the people around you are too oversocialized and polite to honestly tell you your game is hot garbage.Bro I'm autistic too and even I know you can't trust neurotypicals to tell you the truth about anything.You literally made an overwatch clone down to the fucking name, what did you expect?
>>732993323TORtanic did irreperable damage to people's brains
>>733011738You are implying there is a chance would actually accept the critique and change their game instead of sending the No Man to HR and then to the streets holding with a cardboard box and a letter telling him he's now blacklisted from the whole industry.
I wish devs would just develop what they want and what they like instead of pretending to like these bullshit gaas just to scam more money out of gullible investors who don't know a fuck about videogames.
>>732992572> make great legendary game> evil influencers manipulate public opinion into hating itthe delusion here is unbelievable.
Even reddit is making fun of the devs. All the mainstream reddit gaming spots are laughing at themthis has nothing to do with LE CHUDS BEATING LE EVIL LEFTISTS. Even the biggest leftist shithole is dunking on themstop acting like you fags are special. Its just a shit game everyone hates
>>732993282post nanna
>>733011616>If they make another Fortnite it means infinite money.Here's the kicker though. They could if they made it fun and original and not cringe and woke. They literally could make infinite money. Any of these western devs could. But not being cringe and woke is harder than Steven Hawking winning the middleweight title in UFC if you are a western dev.
>>732992634
but i did nothing
>>733012050>Even the biggest leftist shithole is dunking on themThey eat their own to further their cause all the time. They have no morals or standards. Only opportunities to spread to the next big thing.
>There's no way this will flopThis sentence has unprompted "Nobody thinks you're fat" energy
>>733011817Why do you retards who clearly weren't here for tortanic whine so much about it. Post the fucking iceberg comic, I know it's the only thing you know about it.
>>733012279They're mommy special kids.
>>733011798>You literally made an overwatch clone down to the fucking name, what did you expect?It would have a chance if it was just an OW clone
>>733012246or maybe...none of this is political and everyone is just laughing at asshole devs that made a shit game?Not everything is about right/left /pol/brain faggot. That shithole voted for an orange p*do anyways
Social media discussions should on some level be about people sharing their true opinions, ideas and reactions about differnet topics. This way you can read dialogue between people and perhaps learn something.Tortanic posting about unreleased video games is some subhumans just shitting on things they have no personal connection with. No one can learn anything and the point gets lost.>oh boy a video game is going to SELL POORLY>oh what does that mean>it means we won >what did we win?>oh boy a video game is going to SELL POORLY>what
Unironically, the only way they could have saved this game was:> delete all heroes 3D models> hire a team of 3 highly based Japanese designers> Make all heroes hot chicks with bouncy boob physics> Implement real gacha system for chick skinsThat's literally it. No one would call their game "Concord 2" during the announcement trailer
>>733012474you lost you retarded turd and /v/ won
>>733012518just delete the ugly jeet and 2 of the 3 phases
>>732992572>There's no way this will flopKek. What sort of feedback is that to receive?
>>733008806>It's why they can't even get people to play a game for free.Imagine their humiliation.
>>732992572Crying like he is owed a playerbase because people internally told him.the game was great, without even thinking of making a public beta is the game developer equivalent of someone saying "my mommy thinks im handsome"
>I made something, PRAISE ME! PRAISE ME NOW!
>>733012474GO WOKE GO BROKE
Some people are truly delusional. You'd think that if you made something truly amazing the 6 digits of people that played it on launch would have stuck around. Those people might have seen the negative reaction or trailer or evil gamer discourse or whatever but they still bought and tried the game. Then they all stopped playing. Huh. Wonder why they did that?
>>732997183> 9 playersbro... these are literally de dev team testing shit
>>733012474>Having fun is subhuman>Leave the corporation alone!
>>733010384You can be a success or you can fit in with the clique of unpleasant, joyless people. Choices...
>>733011631Eh, I dunno. It's not what I'm seeing in the source.
>>733012472>Not everything is about right/left /pol/brain faggot.It literally actually is to western devs. Which is why western games suck. Only a gaslighting undercover tranny worshiper would say otherwise.
>>732992786whitebros... why did we make such a shit game???
>>733013229giggle boy giggling giggliciously
Whether you made something good or bad, at the end of the day, using it to derive pleasure from narcissism and entitlement is ultimately a an act of low social intelligence, low emotional intelligence, and sadly too frequently a mental issue with game devs and troons.
>>732993323>"Gamers" love nothing more to shit on gamesWhy didn't it happen to the other 4 games in this genre released in the past year then? Are we gonna be doing historical revisionism and acting stupid now? Interesting coping tactic.
>>733011616Remember when during the 360 era everyone wanted that mythical CoD audience and now not even CoD can keep them around anymore?
>>732994906Most humans are fucking monkeys unable to think for themselves. Monkey see, monkey do, although in this case it would be more like monkey hears, monkey says. Having a blast is one example, retards spamming twitch emotes is another, if you ever worked in consulting you'd see all the wankers trying to use words that mean nothing (god I still remember synergy like ti was yesterday).The words get repeated ad nauseam and people end up repeating them, like all zoomer negroslang, or niggerbabble if you will.
>>732993512>How did a group of white and asian guys make something so bland and mediocre and soulless?>Wildlight Entertainment is a remote-first AAA game studio with physical office locations in Los Angeles (specifically Woodland Hills, CA) and Seattle.Well we cracked that one. On to the next case.
>>732993323Pretty much. You have to remember the sizable demographic of "based" third worlders that can't run new games on their prehistoric computers so they spend all day on xitter culture war shit, then they praise the "chudpilled anti woke" gachaslop they can play on their phones.
>>732993512>Can’t even blame DEI for this one.>developed in LA CaliforniaSeems we can after all.
>>733011026I can't tell whether you're baiting or clinically retarded. Good job.
>>733013903LA is literally the heart of Mordor along with San Francisco.
>>733013841Very good point. It explains the whole ”old good, new bad” thing. Poors and browns simply can’t run new games, so they make up some cope.
>>733013841>leftists worship browns>they're all secretly chuds
>>733013841So games are bombing because 3rd worlders who don't have money for them are not buying them when they are the target audience, but not pricing wise, despite being more conservative than the most conservative amerishart; while another few games in the genre in the past year never got the same vitriol this one did.Interesting take. I need you to find a patch of grass bruv, to smoke and not only touch of course.
I genuinely try to avoid the cognitive bias of assuming game devs are hopeless, arrogant, and completely out of touch. Unfortunately, they are consistently providing irrefutable evidence they are all three and deserve zero sympathy. I was originally apathetic about the game as I was with Concord, but now I am actively enjoying the fact it failed.
if someone plays your game and says>"there is no way this will flop"they were clubbing you over your fat soilennial funko-pop hoarding head with a literal sledge hammer that you game was absolute fucking insufferable garbage that will 100% bankrupt you and the company you work forthe fact these self absorbed narcissist retards refused to detect that sentiment is exactly the reason the game exists in the first place
>>732992572Mf should probably spend a bit less time on linkedin.
>>733013903Nothing of any value is produced in California now. Hollywood has become an absolute joke and the gaming industry is just as bad. I just want good American games again
>>732997309it's communist thinking, "the measure of work is fatigue"in the same way that they think that a nurse or a fireman should earn more than a CEO just because they work hard
>>732993550That's hilarious
100K players tried your shit game on release day and quickly bailed and NOPE, I'M OUT, what more does these toxic positivity retards want?Gamers have tried all the Ubislop shit and other slop shit and can tell instantly through pattern recognition when something is slop
>>733013903This guy are sick
>>732992572Isn't the game just fortnite with mobile powers
Why is this game of all things getting the most fervent defenses?
>>732992634>hundreds gather at a chudastery hidden in the Himalayan mountains>CEOs all across the gaming industry break into a cold sweat, but they're not entirely sure why>the monks begin their synchronized meditations, their rhythmic mantras revebrate off the walls in a symphony devoted to doing nothing>gamers across the globe find themselves physically unable to purchase any game that proudly presents an ethnically ambiguous goblinoid on the cover>periodically a monk chosen to bear the weight of doing something rings the monastery bell, the fading sound of the bell symbolizing the worlds natural tendancy to return to doing nothing>financial experts around the world are baffled by the emergent pattern of seemingly random gaming adjacent companies losing 10% of their stock value for no discernable reason in consistent time intervals>in ultimate opposition to doing anything, one of the monks successfully dies in a lotus position, completing the self mumification process. Ascending beyond this worldly plane as a chudisatva, so that he might do nothing for eternity>the economic carnage unleashed sends reverberations through time. Some time not too far in the past, a gaming journalist inexplicably is compelled to spill the beans on how his ex-gf was fucking journalists for good reviews.
He didn't say that.Why are subhuman /pol/skins incapable of honesty?
>>732992572>indie studio debut game>gets over 100k players on steam>dies to internal retardation>blame the people who didn't even play the gameI'm glad their studio got shitcanned. If you can't even see the bullshit going on in your own studio then you deserve to fail.
western devs live in a different reality than the players, it's a strange phenomenon
>>733015350Laugh all you want, doing nothing is rising fast. This alone will suffice for the Corpo cult to crumble. They are already failing big league and from too big to fail we will come to too big to bail.
>>733008128I think they think they have a completely captive audience for some reason. You see the same attitude in government and cops and people with tenureI'd really like to try and figure out why they're so smug and sure that they'll have an audience who has no other choice in entertainment outside their specific video game or even video games in general
>>733015395/pol/skins didn't cause your layoffs, your own dishonesty, narcissism, and skill issues did.
>>733015349Happens all the time when a game turns out to be shit.People would say shills but I think it's more autistic people getting randomly attached to things and some retards who genuinely think there's a targeted attack or that review bombing is real.
>>732992572>internal>unbiasedSo he is retarded, why has nobody told him that yet?
>>733008806>>733012715Damn I never even thought of that angle. That has to sting lmao, especially for a corpo
>>733015623 the whole internet did but these faggots never listen
>>732992692>add at vga>stutters>framerate issues>generic fps >games comes out>its all of the aboveA real shocker why it failed. Next thing you know is the devs are starting a sand selling business in the sahara.
>>733009659They even keep the dei shit to a minimum until a few hours in too. Like KCD2 was desperate to hide the wakandan doctor and the retcon of Henry and Hans wanting to buttfuck eachother but luckily those leaks saved me 70 bucks
>>732992572AHAHAHA!
>>732992572Did these dumbasses never pay attention to all the live service games like Battleborn, Concord, Realm Royale, Rocket Arena and so many others that have failed miserably over the years?These kind of games flop constantly. Mid-tier shit like Highguard just looked like another pile in the mountain of slop and was never gonna be a success. I seriously can't believe they spent $200 million dollars making this game and at no point did anyone suggest to them that it might be a dumb fucking idea.
>3v3>4 minutes of downtime before you shoot someone>This happens every match>This doesn't take into account the extra time you waste looting things again
>>733002379Is there anyway to check on the player count for the TF2 clone in Roblox?That really should be a baseline comparison number.
>>733016191Is this one universe?
>>733015739I guess he branded them all as haters, who are only trying to get him down instead of giving him the feedback he wants.
>>732994265And here we have a retarded troon that took the bait seriously.
>>732994910The girl on the right is 10/10 hottie though
>>733016220But you see anon; the woke Cali companies have convinced themselves that their core fanbase is always gonna waste money on their product because of implied dependence even though it's a transient imaginary good with no tangible value; so they assume they can work outside of the box with anything, and appealing to anything, and still get money.Turns out it's wrong, but hubris is so deeply woven within woke corps that they can't learn from mistakes and automatically assume its the World that's the problem rather than themselves. Very sad, yes?
>>733015350Actually lol'd good post>in ultimate opposition to doing anything, one of the monks successfully dies in a lotus position, completing the self mumification process. Ascending beyond this worldly plane as a chudisatva, so that he might do nothing for eternity>the economic carnage unleashed sends reverberations through time. Some time not too far in the past, a gaming journalist inexplicably is compelled to spill the beans on how his ex-gf was fucking journalists for good reviews.This shits got me tearing up laughing
>>733016397I'm pretty sure some people did but maybe they started their criticism by calling the game shit and they stopped reading right there
>>732999736>>733004991I watched the trailer for the first time because of this thread.My overwhelming impression was it was just trying to mash everything together and be everything at once, preventing any sort of unique and cohesive world to emerge. Like, I see WOW crossed with HALO. It's really unappealing.
>>733013903wait, money was cheap?
>>732997665Surprise Caves of Qud fan. A welcome surprise
>>732993239They went to play Math Blaster.
>>732992572that's what toxic positivity brings to you
>>732992634You HAVE to do SOMETHING eventually CHUD
>>732993323the real reason why we love to make fun of it is because is a waste of humanity's resources. something good and non-woke could've been made with that money but we got this instead. the best outcome then, it's for it to die asap so others can learn from it
What genuinely pisses me off is that they call themselves "indie".The game supposedly had a budget of $200mil or more.Its all industry veterans.Its outsourced to third world slave.These demons then go on about how this was totally not like your typical AAA garbage and that their game failure means that we will get more AAA slop, as if their shit doesnt look like it was spawned out of EA's asshole in the first place.One of the most cynical game announcements ever was apparently someones passion project.What a load of shit.
>>733015578> review bombing is realIt is though.
>>733017615yup, he was with his reddit hugbox and talking to blueskytrannies and then reality hit him like a metal bat
>>732993323Should have said No Mans Sky and you would have made a lot of people seeth.
>>733000938Fat bastard, Appalachia crackhead and atleast 2 guys that look like truck drivers is always a great strat for a dev team.
>>732992634It's spreading! I'm--OHHHHHHMMMM
>>732992572>negative-leaning content gets 10x the engagement of the positivebecause positive feedback comes from bootlickers and employees toeing the line, so it's nothing more than noisenegative feedback comes from disgruntled customers who bothered to warn others (why waste your time shitting on a product you paid for if not to help your fellow man?), so it's generally more genuineif they want eceleb outrage bait to vanish, they could work on getting rid of adsense. I can guarantee demonetization will end ecelebs overnight
>>732992572Never heard of it. Never will play it. There's too much fucking shit in the world competing for my attention as is.
>>732993939all the executives for marvelslop are gen x though, feige and such
>>732992572it didn't even look bad, it just looked like nothing. like i had no reaction to it whatsoever, i watched the trailer, i closed the stream, and i went to walk my dog. that was the last time i thought about high guard until people started making reaction videos about it. even then, it didn't look bad, it just looked like nothing. then i saw someone actually play, and they were doing nothing for a solid 10 minutes, then they rode a horse to a mining node and i just had no fucking idea what the game even was.
>>733002104DIGITS-kun...
>>733017731We really need to redefine "indie". By their definition, Valve is an indie company.
>>732995853Anon, social media outlets; game news sites and youtube channels either drum up and play ball with developers by super soft and nice to them or make money being massive critics. The former, if you're good at it, means you get opportunities to be flown out for exclusive access to early game builds that you give you the leverage over your competitors for viewership and attention. And more importantly, you can potentially switch careers and work for a game developer themselves. They have every economic incentive to be dishonest.
>>733017929-outrage bait doesnt actually kill games-many shills make money with their shilling videos tooits just cope. game is bad simple as.100k concurrent people did not quit because asmongold told them to hate it.straight up schizo tier conspiracy theory.
>>733012050Despite what /v/ says there was nothing really woke about this game so reddit has no reason to pretend to like it
>>733018194Valve is an indie company
>>732993639truth is they were trolling him from day 1 making him think his shit smelled like flowers kek
>>732995853Western games industry is incestuous.They are just protecting their friends and families.Also they see you as the enemy.
>>732994910lmao just how bad was the trailer. The designs don't appeal to me (or I guess anyone) but at least they're not offensively bad.
sub 1k sometime next week
>>733017731Something like Expedition 33 was made for only around 10 million. There was some seriously wasteful spending if they dropped 200 million on this game and this was all they managed to produce. An actual competent dev could have made 10 good games with that amount of money. I can almost guarantee this studio was filled to the brim with useless idiots who got big salaries but produced little of actual value
>>732994910Wait is that fucking discount Hitsugaya in the third slot?
>>733018418in truth, the trailer was as bland as the game itself the problem was making it the last trailer of the show with Geoff talking it up like it was going to be earth shatteringinstead it was a fat nothing and it made Geoff, and by extension the game he was peddling, look like clowns
>>732993639>>733018298>release morbius again, we were all busy that weekend, we'll go see it this time
>>733018476Making 10 small-budget games doesn't make as much money as the next Fortnite thoughever>but the game failedThat's okay, they'll just try to make the next Fortnite another 40 times
>>732993315Admittedly, if this happened to some dev who made a 'based chud game" anons would be screeching about the overpowered woke mob crushing anything that wasn't buzzword approved and shows how degenerate they are and whatever the fuck Imagine if some guy who made a really cool Hyborian inspired platformer or something had in their social media some sort of "Free Speech is good" tag and so Polygon, Kotaku, and a fuckload of people decided to call him a nazi, write articles about how problematic his game was, and review bomb the nazi game into the dust because transphobic nazi game devs shouldn't be allowed to succeed etc. Social media being a shitshow is its own problem, but part of it is powered by people being complete assholes and the latter part needs to be dealt with independently. Sure there were plenty of people who weren't interested in Highguard because it was another boring hero shooter and people either already liked an existing one or this one didn't offer anything new enough to get them onboard, but that's separate from those who become devoted to screech and review bomb one thing or another, bluehairs and chudjak stereotypes pointing at each other over imagined insults and screeching like body snatchers.
>>732993672Racists bigots never get comeuppance. Shitlib devs do, like with Concord. These guys are probably shitlibby but their game didn't fail because of DEI nonsense, so it's not as satisfying as when one does, but it's still kinda fun to see hubris cause a well-deserved fall. We can all put our politics aside and mock these guys- this guy coming out and loudly mooing "I'm your lolcow, come milk me" is the cherry on top.
>>732992572I honestly don't know what to say if they got third party testers and they liked the game. The leaders should have been able to see that the game is underwhelming compared to any FPS despite the positives. Somebody above the tech leads should have stepped in to direct them towards a better outcome.
>>732993323Fucking retard, Cyberpunk sold millions, so obviously people liked it. This game couldn't even keep up its playerbase for two weeks while having a development time of 5 years.
>>733017731>What genuinely pisses me off is that they call themselves "indie".From the makers of 'Apex Legends' and 'Titanfall'.
>>732993323This anon is mostly right and it's comical that you guys don't have the self-awareness to see it. Like you have every right to hate on stuff if you want to, but if you can't tell that sometimes you're shitposting for the sake of shitposting, you're delusional.
>>732993059Hyenas was cancelled way before Concord came out. Sega cancelled the game due to negative feedback from the closed beta players.
>>732997994And fork over their guaranteed 6 figure salaries they received to working on the project before it could generate any revenue? Absolutely not!
>>733019790botpost
>>732992572I was having legit fun with it and i was waiting for an engoodeningBut they're also retarded to launch in an not so optimal state and wihout skins or characters to give a fuck and get money out of them. It's kinda bare there
Western devs should just give all their characters anime girl designs from now on. Guaranteed to have millions of fans on day one
>>732992572Highguard Dev is a Jew
>>733019812I'm kinda envious of people that got to play these mythically shitty games like Hyenas and Concord before they pulled the plug. The best I've got is Anthem and now Highguard
>>733019997Not everyone who disagrees with your safe space is a bot
>>732992572>All products are at the whims of the consumersYes, that's how this works on a fundamental level and always hasFreaks like you literally only scrape by even because of being a product in some form to ideology pushing fags like Soros or EpsteinOr through USAIDS before that got cut off lel
>>732993323I think a part of the need for things to crash and burn is how social media makes everyone fake how great they have it. It makes people want the fake greatness to crack and the ugly failure to reveal itself.
>>733016191Marathon at least has a pretty cool and unusual art style (a stolen one but still). The Horizon thing looks 100% soulless
>>733015350Very nice.
>>732992572Here's my advice...hot girls with big boobs.
>>732993323It's 10+ years of releasing extremely political games with ugly women. Back in the past i could buy a game without any research on it and have fun. Today it's impossible because every studio is full of women and soi >>732992786
>>733018476>E33 was 10 milMy biggest problem with the characters in Highguard is how "normal" they look in a fantasy setting but I felt none of that in E33. They did the exact same thing and with 20 times less the budget and with no one looking out of place. Thats beyond embarrassing.
>>733003108>don't hire chuds for testing and feedback because they ruin the vibe we have >game doesn't sell because majority of gamers are chuds
>>733020735white women have the best taste in pop music you fucking inceljjust mad because you can't get sex
>>733016492Show me her big boobs then.
>>732992634But we didn't do anything, they did it themselves..... Wait a minute....Ooohh at last I truly see.*inhales*Ooooooooohhhhhhhhmmmmmm
>>733018767>make 10 small budget games>maybe 1 or 2 make a decent profit>give the successes bigger budget sequels rather than praying your 1 mega game is successful
>>732994814They're all nepo trust fund babbies
>>732994470In all fairness, it's pretty commonplace in my vernacular as well. I have to consciously not post it on /v/ so I don't get dogpiled because it's too common a phrase with wokesters and other online garbage.
That zero media presence anywhere after the game awards trailer? She got paid 200k a year for it.
>>732993059Hyenas at least had some cool designs. Sonichu being the best of course
>>733021206Stop it with the antisemitism
>>732992572Holy clickbait OPJust dropping the "kill" word for (You)'s eh?
>>733021303I think one of the funniest things about midguard is that nobody cared enough to leak details about it anywhere before the Game Awards.
>>733018639What not drinking Rangiku's tit sweat does to a mf
>>733018290>>733018194Valve are a private company not an indie game dev. The specification comes from the full term not only the state of being independent otherwise every private company is an indie game dev. Also carries implications of>game dev is the sole focus>being recently formed>not yet released more than 1 or 2 gamesand I think the last implication is you aren't an indie dev after a few years unless you remain with a laughable single digit headcount. Otherwise you're just a private developer.
>>732993323im gonna go ahead and predict that you struck a nerve based on the amount of replies.
>>732992572they paid people for positive reviews not they're complaining at the people THEY paid?
>>733021303I don't like dumping on people unless I see their own words, or I can draw a direct line between their work and decision making and the failure. The entire strategy here post awards trailer was baffling.
>>733009285I dont think they look that bad but a lack of style or aesthetic really hurts the designs. My favorite is the Mongolian thats supposed to look strong enough to smash the ground and cause earthquakes but looks like a fucking MTA bus driver. And this design was supposed to compete with Reinhardt and Rivals Hulk.
>consumers buy slow>good goyim>consumers don't buy slop>ECONOMIC TERRORISTSJust remember to pick up a chemistry textbook before the real revolution kicks in friends.
>>733020229You can't 'disagree' with a safe space, it's not an opinion.
>>732992572What perplexes me the most, is them talking about how unique and original it was and while yeah there is an actual gimmick that separates it a bit from generic hero shooters, everything is so incredibly bland I have no clue how anyone could continously try and screech about how unique and original it was.Like,>Fantasy with gunsOh is it going to be fantasy focus with fantasy guns? Stuff like antique looking rifles, dwarven engineering, goblin type cobbled together gizmos or just straight up magical guns?Is it going to be like Arcanum that puts magic and technology at odds with each other, maybe using the opportunity to add some mechanics related to that fact or provide opportunities for character interactions?Is it going to be like Shadowrun trying to show how magical things interact with technology and vice versa?>None of these LMAO, instead we got generic vague fantasy with a tiny bit of generic vague scifiOkay so you want to make large maps with focus on mounts, is there going to be some move tech, riding mechanics that reward learning them or vast differences between how each mount works?>NopeOkay is the fantasy scifi setting going to be used for any gameplay opportunities? Like giving a lot more focus character kits and giving them deeper powersets with different resources? Like full mage characters with no guns but a lot of varied abilities all using mana rather than cooldowns? A nimble guy that uses lots of varied gadgets and traps they have limited amount of? Someone simple on the opposite end who just get a big strong gun, lots of armor and nothing else? And anything else in-between?>Nope, everyone gets one passive, one ability and a fucking ultimate with zero depthCould have done fucking anything apparently and this was not only the peak of their creativity but they keep insisting this is the peak of creativity period.
>>732992572>all products are at the whims of consumersis he retarded? who the fuck else would it be at the whims at?
>>733009285Aside from the tranny, I don't think they were monstrosities. I think it was DEI shit that said, "what is the least amount of concession we can make to be passable", with zero skin showing on the witch but a tiny amount of boob bounce, and scarlet, who has midrift, but manface, and brocoli hair.Oh, and we'll let Del finally make a girl with a cute face, but dress her like a background character from Horizon.
>>732992572They never called you economic terrorists or wanted you deadYou right wing fascists are fucked in the head. Fox has normalized you white pieces of shit making stuff up on the spot so you can just harass people
>>733022689Not managing expectations is big here. Because they advertised titanfall and apex, I expected movement tech, with the mounts.The open field calvary shit wasn't bad but it was underwhelming and goddam 3v3. It really needed more teams to shine.
>>733022689The 'new breed' bit is the mining phase.Yeah- because people really want to do resource farming in a shooter.
>>733022806It's called "reading between the lines". Try it sometime
>>733022918Proxies in the press like the Zoefucker have not been shy at all about how they feel.
>>733022806>FoxLmaoThis nigga still believes in entertainment news media, as if that shit hasn't been exposed as fake and gay since GG.
>And since we were an independent, self-published studio built with royalties in mind, many of us were hoping this could finally be the thing that broke the millennial financial curse.Ahhh now I get it. Dude thought he was going to be set for life from the royalties and now thinks everyone owes him his millions. What a clown.
>>733022732Him and his buddies who thought the game was a blast obviously.
>>733022689>Wow, what kind of magical sci-fi weapons will I find in this futuristic fantasy world?>here is bootleg AK-47Genuinely creatively bankrupt, yeah.
>>733023639Im 95% certain that they ripped the AK from BO3
>>733019576"From the makers of titanfall" on anything that's not titanfall 3 is just going to piss people off immediately
>>733019790>people who hate on Highguard are just shit postingYes. And? Do you think that makes a difference on how shit the game is?
>>732992634OOOOOOOOOHHMMMMMMMM
>>732993323>objectively was a fantastic gamecyberpunk still sucks, it's just a mid game even after being "fixed"
>>733022426Kek it really do be like that
