What vidya trope has you like this?
>>733033484Cave behind a waterfall
>>733033484>Final boss theme is a remix of the main theme
>important cutscene >shit gets real>fantastic banger music track starts playing>it keeps playing as fights are happening instead of the usual battle music
>>733033484second wind
>>733033484>old cast/previous protagonist appears to save the day one last time
>final boss is just like you
>>733033484hero dies in the end
>>733033484If it's a game I like
>>733033484>Obvious side character thinks he is the ""hero"" even through you are the main character>He actually manages to kill one of the main bosses that you were supposed to defeat>You simply never have that boss fight.Kinography
fishing minigame you can cook the fish you catcheating them grants you buffs
>Comic relief character is faced with tragedy, sobers up and gets shit DONE
>>733033484>final mission is "GAME NAME"
>>733033484When the main character uses a .44 caliber Colt 1851 London and travels on a talking Brough Superior motorcycle.
>>733033484Villain vs Villain is always kino
>>733033939I don't like that
Waterfall behind a cave
>>733033484Two best friends as a final boss, difference of philosophy or politics between the two, nothing personal but only one can live in the end
>>733033646It always makes me a little happy when that happens I don't know why >>733034226Title drops too
>>733033646Cave behind cave behind waterfall.
>the player gets a theme song>plays over the boss theme when you start winning the fightI love dragons dogma
>final boss is your mentor
>>733034368soul
>tutorial and main game start cascading
>>733033484>MC turns out to be the villain of one of the previous games
>>733033484Hero loses and you play as the villain for the rest of the game
>>733033484fuck huge robots
>>733033484>legendary hero party mistakes you for a demon>attack you>easily defeat them using the back of your sword>they kneel in awe at how sick you are
>>733033484Final boss is a corrupted alternate timeline version of you.
>main character of previous game comes back as a boss
>That one hero who was spoken with reverence becomes a boss or teams up with you
>>733033484fakeout credits
>>733033484>silent protagonist>says something at the very end
>>733033484when pic happens
>>733033751>You fight the final boss multiple times throughout the game's story>The final battle has a full orchestral version of his Leitmotif with vocals
>>733034903>speaks after 7 games
>The dev team contribute to one track of the ostKino
>final boss music is orchestrated
>bandit camps/monster dens are reclaimed and fixed up by the locals after you've cleared them
>>733034368Yo, Buddy. Still Alive?
>>733033484>antagonist of previous game is a party member>party is oblivious to their true intentions and eventually gets betrayed
game lets me equip a pistol and fire it at women npc heads that then gore satisfyingly in response thanks to a complicated gibbing system and competent modeling from the dev team.
>>733033484dark link trope or fighting against previous mc trope
>>733035382>t. Supreme Gentleman
>party member is a double agent>they end up becoming attached to the heroes and can't bring themselves to betray them
>>733035219Sounds kino. What game?
>>733035792Valkyrie Profile 1 and 2.
>old hero or warrior is forced out of retirement>because of the urgency they don't fit their own equipment but have to make due
>>733033484>Rival Battle>Their moveset is a cooler version of yours.
>>733033484>Game has a retired mentor character who's an old fart, crippled, or otherwise seemingly unable to fight anymore>Ends up in a combat situation anyways (eg. to test the heroes or to save them from some big threat they can't handle yet)>Actually still really fucking strong despite appearances
>>733035219>second game is set hundreds of years before the first>plot twist halfway through the game reveals that it's actually a direct sequel
>>733033484I just love time skips with a new look for the cast
>>733033484>mission starts normal>shit happens at the 'end'>the mission doesn't end , it keeps on going Metal Slug 3 , EDF 6 , arguably Warframe
Game features a loyal pet doggo
final boss has the main theme kick in as the boss gets low
>main menu background changes with story progression >"And a special thank you to ..... You, the player>big bad from first game magically survives and helps you in a critical moment in the second game >Orchestra version of main theme is last boss music
Insert song starts playing in an OST that does not contain vocal trackhttps://youtu.be/YXbuIHCQhWU
Anytime there are weapon designs that are actually well thought out beyond Sword variation #21 with minor color change
>Important characters stay fucking dead instead of being revived or brought back with some asspull
>>733033484The power of friendship can be hit or miss for me, I really have to be invested in the game and the characters for it to work.
>>733033484Whenever writers ape on musou tensei
>>733034226>Final boss name is "GAME NAME"
>>733036173I like Hi-Fi Rush but damn the ending was some cringe shit. These people knew each other for like, a day at most and they did this.
>>733035950>main cast gets new designs>all the other fucking characters look exactly the samereally grinds my gears
>>733033484>main menu theme has direct connection to the story, even better if it's the ending>nararrator is an actual character in the story>title drop at the halfway point of the game
>>733035382too dark, man
>>733035005What song?Also I think NieR Automata did that: the final version of the Weight of the World song has the dev team providing backing vocals (the la la laa la laa la laaaa)
>>733033484Character refuses to die
For me its the crouching retard hidden badass trope
>game changes the rules on you in the final fightNothing better than a total genre shift, like a turn based game becoming real time.
>>733033484end game credits lists all the enemies and NPCs
>>733036173Have you tried SMT IV Apocalypse?
>>733036397Not anon but the dev team did the chorus for thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIetY0x_9Xo
>>733034342God samus in a suit is so much sexier
>>733036447I always find this really trite and defeating the whole purpose of games, at least when it's the protagonist. Final battles that just go until you die are far more kino.
>>733036173I hate that it's often, adding to how lazy it is, quite poorly written. I mean sure, the story is always framed in such a way that we are supposed to cheer for and agree with "the good guys", but when that trope shows up it often just comes across as, when viewed even a bit critically, as the protagonists winning on account of being bullies. The "big bad" is the person who has the strength and conviction to accomplish something on his own, something I prefer to see in a protagonist.
>>733034040what game does this?
>>733036504But the edgy route is better
>>733033484>>game has innocent little girl>over the course of the game protagonist makes her realize her sex appeal and raises her into his personal slut10x better than mesugaki or shit like that.
>>733036520Neat. I thought the OST for that game was a bit hit or miss (and mostly forgettable) but that elevates it several notches in my eyes. Very soulful.
>>733036694I need to play anarchy route, but I love the assassin girl too much
>>733036569nah man
>>733036520 Damn, that's actually pretty cool. Adds that extra layer of "we made this for you" feeling. Always love when devs get directly involved like that-makes the whole experience feel more personal somehow. Wish more games did stuff like this.
>>733036173>Power of friendship swoops in to save the dayI sleep.>MC's conviction in his ideals pushing him even further beyondREAL SHIT.
>>733036715I would actually like to see this in a fantasy adventure contextwell maybe not the gigalsut part lmao, just awkward age gap
>>733034226>FF14 Endwalker>Get a status debuff at the very end called "Endwalker">"Walking alone onto journey's end, the burden weighing heavy"Actually clapped irl
>>733033484>RNG armor has an alternate style that no one knows about because they didn't put in the hours to grind for it>it's ero as shit
>>733036569It's often scripted, but still kinoOmori gets an extra layer of kino because when you fight Omori as the final boss, he still refuses to die just the same.
>boss music syncs with the boss' attacksbonus points>lyrics also sync and add to the boss' story
>>733036953>>MC's conviction in his ideals pushing him even further beyond>REAL SHIT.For me it's only REAL SHIT when it's written in such a way that the MC doesn't just come across as a dumb, naive idealist. Sure, he kind of needs to be an idealist for this, but he doesn't have to be dumb and naive.
>>733033484And thanks to you... THE PLAYER
>>733037092IIRC FFXIV has done that sometimes. Like when you fought the final boss at the end of Heavensward.
>>733033484In rpgs when a random mob transform into one of your party membersAlways sick, even better in old rpgs where you don't see your party members in fights so it's like the only way to really see them there
>>733036953This anon has it right thats grade A kino
>>733033484>lose a fight>beginning to fade to losing screen>suddenly unscripted power up begins>all while dropping the intro music full with lyricsUpdoots to whoever guesses the game I'm talking about
>>733037184At the end of Dragon's Crown, the credits roll by in a dungeon aesthetic and once they're finished a gorgeous landscape pops up and large letter say "Thank you for playing". My favourite occurance of that trope.
>>733037267Just spill all the beans; I want to play that.
>Game has a limited power-up that kills you if you use it too much>Break past the limit for the final boss
>>733034903>protagonist gives his reason for not talking in the previous game
>>733033484>one of the final missions/quests in the game is the game's subtitle
>>733037461I know saints row 2 did this but are there other examples?
>>733037608Jak 2 probably did, I don't remember
>>733037442Digimon World Next order. Honestly said fucking kino out loud
>>733036738I feel like they were afraid to go all-in on the weird vocals like they did with AC4 and 5. The stuff with it like Steel Haze: Rusted Pride was great and I wish they'd done more.The best tracks were all on the bonus disk and I think that's a shame. I really like the version of Steel Haze on it, too.https://youtu.be/EZ8CiIQbXf8?si=-LJ1uBLNl6ottXC2.
>>733036173My favorite POWER OF FRIENDSHIP moment is in Super Mystery Dungeon where your partner tries to forgive and make friends with the final boss after you defeat him and it just gets confused and dies.
>>733034342You have shit taste.
>>733037815It's even on sale on Steam right now. I will get right on it. Thank you!
>>733033751>Final boss theme is a medley of themes from the protagonist and the final boss>You rescue the protagonist from a previous game in one stage. When fighting the final boss and thinks get tough, the protagonist from the previous game shows up to help. He also saves your life in the escape sequence at the end.
>>733033484>Final boss is some background character that was seething at you the whole time
>>733037837Agreed with pretty much everything you just said.
>>733037941>bad ending of the game has the protagonist from the previous game showing up to fucking kill you because you fucked up that badly
>>733033484Mass Effect 1>scary kinoSovereing conversation>sad kinoIllos Prothean VI conversation>epic kinoBattle of the CitadelThat game is so fucking good holy shit
>>733033484>protagonist gets a happy end, doens't ditch his friends, and marries his love interest
>>733038143one day...
>>733036152korean slop
>>733036173>Persona 4 >entire team slowly sacrificing themselves to protect you against final boss
>>733034903I had many issues with Code Vein 2, but this was one of the better partsAlso>NG+ is the will of the MC breaking the timeline to create a better future
leitmotifshidden water features/caves hidden in waterlegendary swords but not retarded onesholy/silver weapons deal more damage to evil creaturescharacter gets more fucked up as the game progressespoint where you get a power up that makes you outclass everything that came before or evens the oddssnow level with music that has ambient elements suggestive of wind or freezing rain, or just 'sounds cold'when you can save a character when you find a way to win without compromising in some tragic or immoral way
>>733038490>NG+that's another one for me: being able to save everyone with the power of meta knowledge!
>>733038490>Bad ending of first game leads to second game>Good ending of second game leads to the start of the first game, but this time the MC gets the good endingSimilar kino
>>733038583>when you find a way to winif a game confronts you with two choices with both causing some one to die BUT YOU CAN JUST BEAST HARD ENOUGH WITHOUT ANYONE DYING?that's my jam
>Puzzle game>The only gate is knowledge>Could finish the game in a few minutes if you come in with knowledgeOuter Wilds is pure fucking cinema
>>733038595which game even does this?
>>733038763Shadow Hearts maybe?
>>733038490>to see the good timeline you must personally experience all the bad end timelines and learn from their mistakes
>>733038749Outer Wilds is extra cinema because it literally has ZERO technical requirements. Not a single item, ship upgrade, key or anything. And this is true for every single location and puzzle in the entire game.
>The MC has an evil doppelganger, robot or otherwise.
>>733033484>teaming up with a previous games antagonist to defeat a greater threat
>>733033484>kicking ladder down creates a shortcut
>>733033484If I have to shit while playing, then it's kino.
>>733033751Based
>>733036173>tell your power of friendship party to fuck off to join the oppressive empire>tell the oppressive empire to fuck off to join the ancient evil>backstab the ancient evil to rule the world for yourselfquinoa
>>733038749Man, Outer Wilds is a gold mine for absolute kino>The first time falling into the black hole>The sun station door reveal>The raft drop>Figuring out how to open the locks>Adding your own slides to the owlk projector>When you realize what you have to do to reach the eye>When end times starts playing when you take off with the core in your ship>When you realize it's not end times playing>When the nomai skeletons stand on each other to give you a path to Solanum.>When you see the big bang
>>733033484Epic orchestral music thats actually good + Latin chorus
>>733038763>>733038816Shadow Hearts, yeah
>>733033484>Previous protagonist is the final boss/secret boss
>>733038983thats overdone to smithereens desu senpai
>Everyone you ever helped in the story or side quests come to your aid for the final fight
>>733036715Name 5>>733037184This one does nothing anymore
>>733035161>monsters take them back if you don't revisit every once in a while
Any sort of proper fusion mechanics. Digimon is the only one that does this well. No, persona doesn't count since the output of the fusion has nothing to do with the inputs.
>>733040509How do you feel about Pokemon Infinite Fusion?
>>733040567Valid entry into the fusionkinosphere.
>dialogue appears as just white text without the normal dialogue box it usually hasGenuinely do not get why it works but it’s always kino.
>>733033484nothing evokes such emotions in me
>game full of dark themes>the power of love/friendship triumphs in the end
>>733040378https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UItpDo5BCnc
>>733040340And? Evil doppelgangers are cool.
>>733035382the only game i can think of is soldier of fortune 2 and it doesnt have women
>Boss fight with normal orchestral music>2nd phase>Music suddenly has vocals and lyricsIt's SO rare but every single time it happens I get a stiffy
>>733033484>MC is an edgy anti-hero>MC's rival is a knightly paragon of justice >they have a climactic 1v1 battle at the climax of the story
>>733041572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJivZB3QtpYFirst thing I thought of
>>733033484>the physical game came with free stickers
>Boss fight goes from acoustic guitar, to orchestra, to metal, and the final phase adding lyrics
>>733036023Torgal made FFXVI a lot less shit.
>>733040378>>733040949>when you get your powers back one by one in Okami's final boss and the first thing you do is draw a big fat fucking sun all over his assGenuinely one of my favorite moments in any game ever
>>733033484>party members in an srpg all have unique dialogue before the start of the final map
>villains are brutal pragmatists>their plans are foiled halfway through the game>everything starts to devolve in a ruthless chaos that their pragmatism was keeping in check
>>733041572The PM games love to do this and its sick every time it happens
>>733036173>Amy vs Yamiholy shit when that happens you actually tear up.
>all the paid dlc is unlockable through natural progression of the game
>>733036569>final boss also refuses to die>you watch him degrade as you push him further and further past his limit
>>733033484>I need to kill Chaos!>Final Boss Phase 2 Theme: Become ChaosI expected so little from Jack's game and got so much
>>733033484>Game has tutorial mission>It's a in-universe training segment
>>733040812not a Miyazaki game for sure
>>733041962>Villains in act 1 are the lesser of 2 evils>Act 2 is about how much worse everything getsI love this shit
>>733041636I can only count Vesperia, what other game does this?
>>733033484Final boss is regular human sized and can use game mechanics (parry, perfect dodge/block iframes, items or whatever you want) against you
>>733042043You don't snart gung like that
>finish game, but it's some kind of bittersweet ending with one of the protagonist's friends sacrificing themselves>credits roll, shows the party breaking up and going back to their normal lives>pop up asking: "Are you really okay with things ending like this?">select no and the real final chapter starts
>>733033484Almost nude villainess, it never fails to make me scream
>hardass fuckhead of commander deeply cares about his soldiers and just want to give them the best odds>character who's been a punching bag for the entire game gets his time to shine>enemies are consummate professionals even as they're losing >there's no anger in the final confrontation, only pain >enemy commander doesn't have a gimmick, he's just that goodArmored Core 6 is possibly the most 'IT WAS MADE FOR ME' game to ever exist, goddamn.
>>733042043Gear.... second
>>733033484Naked tiddies
>>733033484>Boss theme gets interupted to play MC's theme as he turns the tide of the battleThis is the purest available form of kino
>major character like a rival becomes a temporary party member
>>733042931Don't forget>Cool and collected asshole loses his shit when he starts losing to (you)AC6 was such cinema
>>733043126>Getting this shit to pop off after an intense monster fightKinohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTNfuztCMgM
>>733040428it gets me every single time and i get angry when the game doesn't end with that
>Player character of the last game is a reoccurring boss.
>>733042818Kino.<Anon>'s data was lostIt was worth it.
>>733043212>>733043126I NEED more games that do this
Third options/coin on its edge.Call me a basic nigger but I love when the game gives you a third way even though 90% of the time it's basic bitch shit. Sometimes though it's fucking glorious.
>>733043126>as he turns the tables of the battleFTFYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OeiDrCbWYI
>>733042201
Sudden but blatant connection to a previous game in the final act. Bonus points if it's not a numbered sequel.
>>733043641Kain approves.
>>733033939>>733033765>>733033751all based
>game has multiple perspectives through multiple campaigns>the silent protagonist is no longer silent when you switch to another protagonistt
>>733043583Super Robot Wars does this all the time.
>enemies have same mechanic as you>boss weapon gives you their moveset>you get raped when you lose to enemies >different bad end for each enemy/area
>>733043868It's the best one even though really you as a player don't have any other options. Just the narrative of finding a way to twist the fate set in front of you. My opposite is Fable 2. The ending sets you up in front of a wish-granting thing that the antagonist has been doing horrible things to build and you kick his ass to stop him. Then you have to use it. Sure, one option is basically "undo all the shit" but I still rankle at the very concept and basically making the moral "it's okay to build a magic life-fixing device as long as -I- get to use it"Why would I use it? People causing untold suffering in order to try and escape misfortune in their life? Fuck off that's life man. I'd walk away.
>visual novel has a complete alternate route that unlocks after the main route where there's an entire full-length campaign from the antagonist's perspective that frames them as the real good guy from the prologue>the protagonist of the first campaign was just an imposter/not even a real person
>>733044051Might have to play Night of Revenge again.
>>733044315It's a great game. Holy shit. Better than most games today, and I don't know if that's amazing or just sad.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2onZDRhRKks
>>733044051>spoilerWhy would I want to get rewarded for losing?
>>733044370If you actually play this as a game while also being in it to see tits, you'll get frustrated and even more motivated to kill them. Trust me on this.
>>733043126FFXIV does every single leitmotif/soundtrack-related trope perfectly. The Endwalker theme overtaking Endsinger's theme (which is a medley of all previous final boss themes) in phase two is just perfect on every level. It really makes you feel the indomitable human spirit punching the cold indifferent universe in the facehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oywzQCWQucU
>>733044297name
>>733044363Genuinely mogged by Holy Knight Ricca, both in gameplay and porn
>that insanely hype track that sounds like it should play in the game's climax but only plays once or twice early on in the game to throwaway jobber bosses
>>733044370Unlike other hentai games, the MC doesn't take damage from being raped, but some enemies can kill her.
The protagonist has a character arc that mirrors the player
>>733044629if i've never heard of it, that's a horrible sign
>>733040378>Guy you helped in a sidequest can show up in a main quest using the thing you helped him with to make the boss fight easier>If you tricked him during the sidequest and gave him a fake his help is ineffective and he also hates you foreverI fucking love Dragon's Dogma
>boss sings over his theme song while in battleBased beyond the beef.
>>733044635>best track in the game>only plays once in a cutscene/boss fight like 5 hours into the game>doesn't loop>the regular boss theme starts playing when the track is over>it's not even a significant turning point or significant fight in the story because you've already fought this guy and will fight him a bunch more times after that>never plays againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSCLbShOrA0
>dead loved one comes up>you have to deny them, kill them, or walk away
>>733036483Is there a turn based game that goes real time in the final battle?Only game I remember switching things up for the final boss was God of War 1 OG (and it was really cool).
>>733044745How? You're either not as big of a gooner as you think you are or you don't spend that much time on /v/. Go play it right now. I hope you like rape. The miserable kind of rape, where there's no pleasure and she's crying.
>>733044051>Final boss is yourselfWho the fuck saw this coming?
>>733033484>You have a designated peeing button>It can make you flyMan I loved it so much
>>733037026
>>733033484>Game set on the moon>First Level is “One Small Step For Man”>Last Level is “One Giant Leap For Man-Kind”
>>733036483Fucking Trails of Cold Steel manCompletely changed the battle system to something else in the last half hour and had a fucking tutorial before the final boss
>>733036483My single biggest grip with Yakuza 7, a game i generally really love, is that this doesn't happen when Ichiban confronts his brother in the final battle. It was right there. It would have been perfect.
>>733044629>>733044913>2D style drawn as 3Doh god
>>733044919Hate that she kills herself too in the good ending.
>>733045117But she doesn't? The good ending is the Ranch. Or working for that bartender, anon.
>>733043672YESSS
>>733044992What? Wich game does this
>>733033484>game is released on pc
>>733045290Postal 2 (yes you can use it to fly)
>>733045290Death Stranding 1
>Final boss is a mirror match
>>733033484>Villain actually made 0 mistakes and had a perfect plan and only failed because of external factors
>>733036152These are some ass Brave Frontier ripoffs
>secret boss gives you his weapon
>>733033484It’s fairly common, but I’m a sucker for the “magic/fantasy elements are actually advanced sci-fi tech that the world forgot”
>>733045679fucking kill yourself, you goddamn slop lover, holy shittip your fucking fedora why don't you
>>733033484>the final boss is your brother
>bad ending is canon>it's kino
A good 70% of the "tropes" in this thread do not exist.
>>733046306Maybe you just don't know the games people are referencing
>>733033484>side with the villain at the end>have to kill all your former friends and allies to winnone of you will stop me from achieving glory
>>733046701I made mine up
>>733033484>JRPG>Win against enemy>Battle music keeps going instead of playing the victory jingle
>Music plays through level>Reach final boss and music adds vocals and/or additional instruments
>final boss was the tutorial level but altered to kill you>you had to make it to the end so you could punch the tutorial level so hard you break existence saving time and space
>>733033484>Female companion has sexy attacks that charm enemies>She flirts with the mc behind the heroine's back
>>733046950the corrupted bunny slut from dragon quest
>>733047014You got me anon
>>733033484https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPk3uU3vd9oWhen the "haha he's a fraud" party member becomes a boss and they legitimatelly are capable of beating the entire party
>>733033751Name one.No I legit like this trope but only heard it like twice.
>boss battle is played in front of a live audience
>>733047538https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCRTkPowOlQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJa8nAXuQX4
>Objective: Survive.
>>733047724There'll be another time.
>>733033484>The dungeon is the final bosshttps://youtu.be/A3nWqGKbyC8?si=QUgswg8Es7uUlvvehttps://youtu.be/p4Es57fVK30?si=y3EG9O9IrN7u-id-
>>733047552Even though the game kind of sucks Viewtiful Joe 2's final boss was pretty cool
>>733047552Bleed 2?
>>733033484>Rival joins you to fight the bigger evil.
>game thanks you for playing
>>733033484i love when the mc starts out as a poor loser from the middle of nowhere and by the end of the game, he's a globetrotting demigod facing against a cosmic threat. it's pretty overplayed for rpgs, but when done right, it gets my blood pumping. that feeling of looking back on how far you've come
>>733048960
>>733033484>Beat final boss>Real FINAL boss ia your rival>No giant or monster form, no world-ending threat, no high stakes, no bullshit, just a 1 on 1 just because.https://youtu.be/-qO_m-g1fyE?si=yf4-8G5ayCKofrN9https://youtu.be/jXyj8oMSDsM?si=lG3cOWDzOFSiVe16
>boss uses the same skills/weapons as the player
Villain strikes such a nerve on the Hero MC it completely destroys his Moral Compass and has him go completely apeshit
>>733047538Ace Combat 5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63XVonGpa-khttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQFI3rWfuEITWEWYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LLJJGPi3h4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN3AF2_nDDUAnd like every 3D Sonic game
>>733049660Name one fgt
>>733033484the true ending of dq2hd, holy shit what a ride, made me think that they still got it and now i want a zenithian trilogy rmk
>>733036173earthbound and persona are the only games that can do it well, and persona can fuck it up half the time.
>protagonist's story-long mentor turns on him
>you and your buddy defeat the final boss>your buddy then fights you as the true final boss
>>733043126The first time I saw this in Twilight Princess it immediately became my all time favorite vidya trope
Fake, but believable ending with credits and you go back to the main menu, but the design of it changed. Pressing new game continues it.Signalis
>>733033484>boss has the exact same skillset as the player
>you defeat the main villain>turns he wasn't the true villain, he was just acting as a body double or a threat magnet for the true villain>true villain is his subordinate
>>733033484None
>>733033646Also, deeply rewarding exploration like in Super Metroid and Tomb Raider
>>733050309>protagonist's story-long mentor secretly had another pupil, and they are both evil
>villain uses the power of friendship
>comedic side character who always has their eyes closed opens their eyes and gets serious
>>733033484when your party come in 1 by 1 in clutch cinematic moments during a tough fight or the last boss battle. KINOO
>>733036891You can keep one character alive to be your goddessFunnily enough, that also includes males for some reason, lel.
>>733051416>You can keep one character alive to be your goddessthat gives me a massive boner>Funnily enough, that also includes males for some reason, lel.gross
>>733050738everything with royce is pure kino
>you finally confront the main villain with your weapons and magic spells and shit>he karates your ass
>>733036154I forget. Why didn’t she just bring him back as well? She brought back Lune and Sciel but why not him?
>Game as flavorful menu text, like for when you want to quit the gameAbsolute kino.Replayed Max Payne 3 and I forgot how much I loved random details like that. Drinking some whiskey and playing through that game over a weekend was some of the most 10/10 vidya I've done in a while.
>>733033484Complete break of pace and a new unexpected area 3/4 into the game.
>>733051545They left his body back on the continent. Lune and Sciel's chroma was nearby already. She brings him back in her ending and Sofie.
>>733036632Your brother kills a bunch of likely cut content bosses off screen in NMH2
>>733035871Based.Galuf's death was such a good scene for that.
>Game sets in fantasy settings>It's actually a post-apocalyptic from an advanced scifi shit gone wrong
>>733052086this is so gay
>>733033484Walljumps and airdashes, +1 if you can stop midwall and grab the wall.
>>733033484>random generic npc kills a boss or named character
>heroes fights the villains>the heroes lose and die>villains are now the main characters
>>733052074>character hits zero hp but refuses to dielove this shit too, bonus points for if there's a special "gets back up" animation that interrupts the normal death animation
>final boss uses better versions of your own attacks and abilities
>>733033484When Mario jumps
>>733045290Postal 2 and Duke Nukem 4ever seriously have peeing buttons. I'm not joking.
>>733033484>fight final boss>credits roll >new form of final boss says it's not over and rips the credits roll apart then the real final fight starts
>>733037885So does her ass
>>733045381Postal 2 has full on peeing mechanics with full movement and penis direction freedom and NPC piss interactions.
>>733042043>it's overpowered and can't be disabled
>>733044241>I'd walk away.Reminds me of what Rambo does in his ending in MK11. For a random-ass DLC character, it was actually quite neat.
>>733042280>custom game over if you somehow fuck it up
>Every character has a dedicated theme song>>Bonus points if it's a vocal track about their motivations, worldview, and history>Every boss fight has a completely different genre of music.>Weapon deals more damage if you hit with exactly the tip>Health in a turn based game moves in real time so you can heal a fatal attack if you're fast enough>Spell that takes an extremely long time to charge and does a LOT of damage.>The secret level has a secret level>You can ignore the entire main story and just run around being a murder hobo
>>733055160>>You can ignore the entire main story and just run around being a murder hobo>coming back to actually start the story has the quest giver 'dude wtf i waited so long' or 'jesus we just started why are you godlike' at you
>>733036715Not entirely along the same lines but picrel might be relevant.
>>733033484early game rival/midgame boss becomes an ally before the final fight
>>733033751>Intro screen and final boss uses the same themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njWBCz8-TVE
>>733043126>proof of hero plays after you pull off the draganatorI swear this gives me an IRL stat boost.
>>733045004>link 404'dwell that sucks
>>733056073>blip and blopPlayed this one so much with my bro. Fun times.
>character that eschews weapons and magical artifacts because they rely on their own strength instead
>>733044702>villain has a character arc that mirrors the protagonist
>>733033484>another villain kill-steals the "final" boss and then you have to fight them instead
>>733045621I have yet to like the look of a single Brave Frontier weapon.
>>733056981>Dissing on my nigga BatoothaI also haven't bothered to check that game in a decade at least, first and last gacha I ever touched, how bad did it get?
>>733033484the final boss is (you)
>>733055672If I remember this, it only had like 1-3 chapters right?
>>733037242For me, it's the arena.Understanding your opponent, respecting them, but knowing that two ideals cannot co-exist.And then crushing their resolve, because no matter how much you believe, if you do not know the truth, you are weak. Your fire is quenched.And for Ruina specifically there's something great about being the escalating threat that goes from being a minor annoyance to a full-blown apocalypse.
>>733047538Aselia the Eternal and Seinarukana. Although it's only a remixed version in Seinarukana. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B21BIUpe0w
>>733033484>A person is mentioned many times in the base game>Establishes feats and achievements >He becomes a boss in the DLC if not the finale of said DLCexample: ARLE-KINO
>>7330573582 chapters but it's incredibly high tier. The author's other works are good too but this one stands out.
>>733033765https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elCgRauEkVE
>>733050863Tales of the Abyss?
>music stops
>>733035854What game? Reverse search gives nothing.
>>733033751>Final boss theme is a remix of the main theme>with lyrics
>>733033646fpbp
>>733033484>Objective: Survivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qC7FfL2qzI
>get to a segment that seems like it would be intense or climactic >it's eery, melancholic, and almost peaceful instead
>>733034040>>733036632Wonderful 101 has your recurring rival murder one of the main bosses off screen because he was in his way and just so he can challenge you again.
>>733033484>THANK YOU FOR PLAYING!
>>733043147>"I AM ARQUEB-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"One of the most cathartic kills I've ever gotten in vidya.
>>733034458>as you defeat your mentor, his final words are "I have nothing else to teach you"
>>733033484>video game boss battle syncs with the musichttps://youtu.be/mXPF119Lmho?si=LrDweO8-o-Zl8-Tg&t=18
>>733038490The MC having a single kickass line is that studio's calling card. They've been doing that since God Eater 1 and it hits like a truck every time.
>>733033484>JRPG>English Battle themehttps://youtu.be/-iy47Q--EbU?si=kvl73xRRfUelU-59
>>733034578MC turns out to be the villain of the current gameI want to know other games that do this but I don't wanna get spoiled. That reveal was kino
>>733052086Adventure time "ass" game
>>733059562>FEAR AND AWE
>>733057290This is the ultimate KINO trope btw.
>>733059634A certain gamecube RPG did this. Baten Kaitos
>Entire OST has been hype moments and aura, full of rock & dramatic orchestras>Final boss theme is a quiet or calming song
>>733058417Brap Dust 2
>all these sovlful posts>You can reference them tooFeels like I'm back pre-covid. I'm glad there are people who still plays video game like they are meant to be.
>>733033484>open world>music tracks change by cross-fading in and out as you get into different areas
>>733033484>bleak setting with grey morality>very happy and positive ending
>>733033484>First game in the series is hard as balls strategic RPG>Protagonist is back for the second game>Because they're an experienced badass the game is virtually a beat-em-up and you sweep through dozens of enemies who would've mulched you in the originalInsanely kino but ever saw it done twice, and once was a porn game kek
>>733033484Full version Opening as the final bosshttps://youtu.be/_vT4zp3jqpc?si=YxdAQ8bz9pZ0lxMHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSYGILOL-tg&list=RDSSYGILOL-tg&start_radio=1
>>733037026It's always nice to reach the [expansion name] quests during the MSQ Finally seeing the [Endwalker] at 2AM was great, hell, doing the Zenos fight with all of my gear in the red felt oddly fitting
>>733034874This but when they actually use moves they had available during the game
>>733057252>how bad did it get?It's fucking dead anon, died in 2021 I think. Alim tried to milk the copyright with some NFTs and the series has been in the vault ever sinceI also picked Eze at the start but I've always been more of an Atro/Urias guyZelban and La Veda fencing lore in general is absurdly based as well and it's a bloody shame they never got their own grand quest
>>733036447https://youtu.be/qpCz3lYMs3g?si=dvZ_d8LjgkUIv3aTGenuine kino, a true moment of ludonarrative harmony
>>733044514The idea of The Endsinger failling the damage check and hitting YOUR enrage is really funny, such a nice way to concluded an MMO, by briefly turning you into the bullshit raid boss
>>733035382Meds now
>>733043387>The chiptune of the hacking segment eventually becomes the normal song>As soon as you start seeing the player messages it starts alternating between all the languages of the song>The chanting starts when you accept helpSuch a great fucking ending man, there really are experiences that can only exist as games
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>villain gets mentioned through the entire game>even other villains are scared of his power>you finally get to fight him and he completely wipes the floor with you
>>733063154>SpoilerFucking RIP bozoF for my nigga Eze, the better Cloud (not that it'd be a high bar)
>party member was the main villain this whole time>he was hiding his power level the whole time>he's way stronger than you and all your other party members
>>733034040It remind me Armored Core 6, a rival hate you so fucking much he sell his soul to the big bad, then escape override his control to fight you out of pure hate.
>>733034797what game?
>>733033484>classic ost from the early games makes a reappearance during the final area/boss in the later game
>>733055380>become a murder hobo>become way too powerful>kill an optional boss in a fight you're scripted to lose>he just gets mad and deletes your saveFucking disgaea 2
>>733041572FF14 does this several times
>>733033646Waterfall hidden in a cave
>>733033484>Voice actors are the family and friends of the autist making the game>Completely dogshit, cringe delivery for the first 5 hours>Get noticably better at voice acting as the game goes on>Start fucking NAILING their lines by the end of the gameAnima Gate of Memories is the greatest 4/10 game I've ever played in my life
>some super strongass non playable character way stronger than you saves your life by defeating a powerful monster>near the end of the game you have to fight him and somehow win
>>733064019not really hidden but that's in one of Skyrim's first dungeons, the one right before Riverwood
>>733047538Every 3D sonic game after 06
>you fight the final boss with the same unique weapon he always had
>>733033484>MC from a game gets a brief cameo in the sequel where it's revealed he impregnated with 3 of the heroines from his game
>MC has sex with the big titty waifu and has a kid in the ending
>Phase 1 theme for the final fight is the boss's>Phase 2 theme is yoursPushed Luna Nights from a solid fun game to something I'd wholly recommend
>>733064325>he impregnated WITHSo Rex got gregnant too?
>>733044919>>Final boss is yourself>Rule number one, don't get me killed
>>733036173Honestly I prefer much more the "allies actually help you FOR REAL"Undermine has all the NPCs giving you powerups to get stronger to defeat the final boss. The game has you controlling only 1 character.
>>733045320You are an anon of refined taste
>final boss is your dad>you kill him>you take over his evil business and keep it a secret from your friends
>end of the game>you gain the final upgrade you needed to have a chance>you are now so powerful every enemies, even boss are mere mook>you fight the boss on equal standing
>>733035382LITTERALLY ME!!!
>>733055380
>>733044887This idea is so interesting that I might implement it into my own game lol. Since I wanted to make a turn based and RTS game modes anyways.
>>733033484>bad guys destroy the home town/country you started in>you return to it and it's an almost entirely changed level now>but you can still see some remnants of places you visited and bodies of people you talked to
>take Boone on the final mission>betray him by killing some NCR guys>Boone becomes a pseudo boss and attacks you>kill him>the NCR guys come after you kill Lanius, thanking you>Tell the robots to kill themMore RPGs need to let you sculpt your story and ending.
>>733033484>enemy npcs turn on the antagonist>you show him mercy>they watch in silence as you carry him to safety
>>733065003Bastion?
>>733033484>gives you an overpowered weapon>gives you a section where you use it with reckless abandon
>>733065039indeed
>secret boss is the main villain of the sequel
Leveling up restores HP/MP and kills nearby enemies. That's the shit right there.
>all the companions partecipate in the final battle
>>733033646its so simple yet so satisfying
>>733065641>kills nearby enemiesWhich game does that?
hero and villian team up in some form
>>733033484>Final boss gives you infinite power up timegiving nero infinite DT when you fight vergil was dope, and the fact that you break the sad poor violin song when you pop it is is amazing
>>733065765NTA but the only thing I can think of offhand is Diablo 3 sending a shockwave everytime you leveled up.
>>733034368Splinter Cell: Conviction's multiplayer campaign has something like this. The two playable characters are an american (Archer) and a russian (Kestrel), after the last mission, both of your respective agencies order you to kill the other agent and a 1v1 PvP match begins, whoever wins holds the other in their arms as they're dying, as neither of them would have wanted to carry out such an order if they had a choice (but alas, loyally serve their counties)
>>733044635For me it's the song that plays for the Taurus demon and a few other demons
>>733057632>>733036715Is this doing some anti-search magic?Tried google/yandex/sauce and got nothing
>>733033484>final area is a continuation of the tutorial/first area but fucked up and harder
>>733033484nothing comes to mind. i'm extremely tired of tropes. begging devs to do something different.
>>733033484>start NG+>you keep all your stats and skills>story slightly changes and characters take notice>he's far stronger than should be possible>he knows stuff he shouldn't>something is wrong
>>733052086Etrian OddysseyMetaphor: ReFantazio
>>733056682>character has magic>only uses it to weaken himself so he can have more fun
>>733066316>final boss is the tutorial/first bossi don't think this qualifies as a trope tho. ive only seen it done once lol
>>733052086>It's so post-apocalyptic that the apocalypse has already happened several times by now>the immortal race of the game remembers the reasons for every single one and are still shitty about them but will never tell you why
>>733066584
>>733049951
>>733067054It's too bad he doesn't stay full-on batshit Ripper for the whole rest of the game.
>>733067054This was mega cringe
>Final boss song is diegetic>Boss has his song interupted by your alliesnothing beats hearing that heavenly inkantation for the first time, what other games do this type of shithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEcNvtdROsI
>>733067260>t. Denies his weapon it's purpose
>>733063723Astlibra
im planning for this to be my first commercial game once me and my friends have a decent handle on unity, we are making meme projects for now. 99432kg concept art/3d models/anims already commissioned though. please rate the kino factor and give suggestions/ideas for events and shit that could happen>you can pick two playable characters to go through the campaign, each with a different moveset and gimmicks. they are just two random mercenaries/bountry hunters in a sci-fi setting, the one you picked is the one that was hired by your handler with an autistically convoluted mission for you>none of them has anything to do with eachother and whoever you dont pick wont show up for pretty much the entire game>final mission, the biggest megacorp is so pissed with your mere existence and what you stole from them, that theres now an immense bounty for you while you are trying to escape the city>only 1 random bounty hunter managed to figure out your escape plan and intercept you: the final battle is against the playable character you didnt pick>now you immediatelly want to start another playthrough as the other character, because you had a complete demonstration of all the cool and busted shit they can do, and youre also imagining how it feels to fight the character you just spent the whole game playing as
>>733068108I think REDACTED pulled what you said better. You should check it out.
>The final boss is God, who wants to destroy all of humanity.>You have the same powers as God.That's cool.
>>733066189[Gyuutan Teishoku e no Koi] Mahou Shoujo wa Oji-san o Te ni Ireru
>>733068265just bought it. do you think its better for me to check it out unspoiled or is it fine if you give me the qrd?
>>733068457Well the story is told to you via your handler. It doesn't make sense to spoil it for you. All your rivals are basically different moveset showcases.
>>733068310>MC dies>he realizes he was actually God, playing as a mortal due to boredom
>>733033484
>>733054308>DLC items clogs up shop screen from the very start of the game>only way to remove it is to manually buy and store every item one by one
>>733050863Jade Empire iirc did this
>>733068679>start game>see equip screen for the first time>end-game DLC items are already in the list giving you instant stats on what the upper limit of the game is
>antagonist joins party>He's an asshole
>>733033751>>733047538It's not the main theme, but this is a personal favorite of mine.One of the main battle themes gets remixed into one of the final boss themes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWJUr33FINQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJXwqcbrCjo
>(You) are the reason the main character of the series goes on to save the universe and become a legend
>>733037683It didn't.
>>733068525i seemaybe it can offer good inspiration but from the looks of it it seems like a very different situation, i might be wrong. like the rivals seem much more reocurring, and its this roguelite structure instead of a decently lenghty campaign
>>733069227It makes sense when you fight the secret final boss.
>>733045612>>Villain actually made 0 mistakes and had a perfect plan and only failed because of external factorsThe only reason Majora failed in Majora's Mask was because of the sudden, unplanned appearance of a traveler from another dimension with access to a time machine.Who the fuck in their right mind would, or could, account for a contingency like that?
>>733068108If you won't showcase how cool the other character is throughout the whole game I won't be hyped fighting him or playing the game again. You have to build up the momentum, make me care for the character, get an intrigue going. Doubly so if both PCs are no-name guys.Vergil won't be such a cool antagonist if we only saw him in a couple of cutscenes standing around and the fight was only at the very end. And people won't be as hyped to see him return and be playable.In pokemon you get to see how the opposite pokemon your rival picks up and trains, evolves and gets stronger. That hypes you up to try another playthrough with that starter, probably you thought was lame at first.
>>733033484Little girls in a Japanese game
>The 4 Generals of the Evil DudeMore games should do it. It's a great way to hype up future boss battles.>For the finale they all team up and fight you togetherEven better!
>>733033484when your allies show up at the final mission/you hear their voices during the final boss
>>733033484>starting weapon that you can easily sell will eventually become the most powerful weapon in the game, but you have to go through an extremely complex series of upgrades with rare resources to unlock its maximum potential and there's no indication in-game that this is the case
>>733033484>absolute silence during villains final monologue>"... this is where your journey ends." or whatever >ominous choir starts singing
>mentor becomes antagonist>face him using elemental wind abilities he taught you, only to be directly countered by him>he reveals he didn't even use those abilities but instead was just using brute force to emulate themi love it when an antagonist surpasses their own built up hype
>>733069640>the 4 generals kidnap you and steal your semen
>>733033751I'm a sucker for this. Elden ring, demons soul's, absolutely positively kino.Another favorite is when you enter a cursed area/person that was fine before and the music changes to a corrupted version. Like Terrarias crimson or Aldrich theme
>>733069697Infinite Undiscovery iirc
>Fanfare music and animation is interrupted once
>>733041069That's dark souls whole thing. A lot of songs do that. Twin princes does it best because you only get lyrics in 2nd phase because Lorian is mute
>>733034226Name three examples
>reveal midgame that multiple forces have been working behind the scenes and is the reason for the problem(s)
>>733044635>Main menu theme goes absurdly hard for no reason.Dark souls 3 I'm looking at you
>the you from the prologue ends up being the antagonist, and your character for the main chunk of the game is just a copy of him
>>733036218Metroid Prime.Is there another example?
>>733044919Infamous does it very well
>guy gets hyped up as a complete badass for the entire game>he joins you near the end, and he's actually that good
>>733047538Sonic Unleashed
>>733033751Bleed 2.Title screen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_wY11BbzZ0Final battle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQw01KR0C9s
>you are the chosen one
>villain is an ancient evil you never heard about through the game
>>733071514Borderlands was such a good game.
>self-destruct sequence activated>about to escape and rival blocks path>final boss with timer still counting down
I like when you visit the old area from the old game and it's not just a copypasteI like when you meet the previous game MC and you recruit him and he's every bit as powerful as he should actually be (or he becomes MC again)
>>733070935diablo and hollow knight
>boss enemy is a cool customer all game>you survive his ultimate attack>he freaks the fuck out
>>733033484Lolis in games.
>>733033484>play prologue as character with end game abilities>begin game proper as amateur with potential
>>733033646I physically can't stop myself from checking behind every video game waterfallI don't know why I'm like this
>Boss uses the game's mechanics against you.
>>733069491Maybe Skull Kid shouldn't have mugged him in the woods.
>>733044635>>733044825Xenoblade 3 does this too.That track that played at the Game Awards a few years ago only plays two times against no-names.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DedonMBsjOQ
>>733069491idk I feel like Kaiba could've planned for that.
>>733033751thisthis is the kinoest thing everit also work for movie/serie/anime final battle
>>733066572Ninja gaiden 1? Or are you thinking of a different game
>trader gets better items if you use trade a lot>trader goes out of business if you don't use it
>>733046710>You're the ultimate? No one can surpass you? Do you really think that's true?>"My Stand has no weak points"... You don't really believe that, do you? I can think of at least one...and obligatory crazydance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fk9vyp_YijQ
>>733074863Looks like shit in black and white ngl
>>733033484>self insertplus any 2 of the following>marriage>impregnation>children are future party members
>>733047538Did this in my game, kinda. Final boss theme plays the first few notes of the main theme as the interlude
>>733033484thinking of adding an part to my game where if a character wants to speak privately to someone while the player's still in the room, they'll take them by the hand into the black void that surrounds the roomthink about how earthbound has the void around indoors places
>>733033484When all your friends that you met along the way help in someway against the final boss, whether it be physically or through support. I'm a sucker for that shit.
>>733033484>>733077289Oh and when the player turns the tables and gets their own power up music that overpowers the final boss's own theme.
>the MC stops giving two shits and joins the evil forces
>the final room before the last battle in the game is deathly silent
>>733033484you can die in first seconds of mission *warp inDIVE DIVE DIVE HIT YOUR BURNERS PILOT
>>733070718Red dead redemption 2Risk of RainDusk
>>733033484>end game at a high level>sequel starts off with you still at that high level and ups the stakes to match
>>733078463Lol, did they actually go "this is the red dead redemption 2" in the final mission?
>former enemies unite to take down the actual enemy
>>733078617The story is made up of named missions, the last one of the main story is called "Red dead redemption". It's not that anyone ever says those words.
>>733033484>Final boss theme is a remix of the main themehttps://youtu.be/kKO1s-CUZvY?si=immEMOQ6aaCbM8wUhttps://youtu.be/n-anU1M9y88?si=nGzVhIzl287yjsET
>main protag goes missing/presumed dead>everyone else loses their shit and goes into mourning>its a fakeoutThis shit is more predictable than the tides but I still love it
>>733079016Damn, what a shame.
>final boss of the first game joins party in the second game
>>733079137Chrono Trigger did this well because Crono really does die and you can choose to save him or not. Pretty well handled
>>733079387>she's romanceable
>>733073987I can think of FF1 and Paper Mario. Though I doubt Bowser being the final boss is some kind of kino twist.
>>733066572I think Zeus in God of War 2 and 3 count.
Basic ability you acquired early in the game gets a massive upgrade in both game play and the narrative.
>>733033646>hidden cave behind the waterfall with nothing but has a secret breakable wall that leads to something
>>733066572literal kino
>early scene with negative implications>shown later in the game with positive context
>>733040812>>733036154With age I started to appreciate the power of friendship much more. I don't want to escape the dark and shitty RL into a game that's just as dark and shitty.
>>733082301>>733036154 meant for >>733036173
>>733070278>Elden ring, demons soul'sYeah bro the switch from one generic chorus to another generic chorus is so kino. Thank you Sakuraba for blessing us with chorusslop.
>>733033484When the protagonist has a 1v1 fight against his dark side or the manifestation of his pyschological burden
>>733040812Fucking hate this shit so much it's unreal
>>733033484>final boss theme is the main menu theme
>>733036447Kino
>>733036447>ONLY I CAN FLY HIGH ENOUGH
>>733033484dark version(s) of the mc(s) as an optional boss
None of these are kino.
>>733084234>Expect some evil ass cat for Nolegs>It's literally God>Gimmick is maintaining the powerful buffs he gives you No one does it like Matt, shits great.
>>733040812https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeGcWuMIyvoKino
>>733084234>Sakuna>doing that endless dungeon you unlock at the end of the game>it's all just enemy waves and boss refights, fun but whatever>hit floor 100>suddenly nega-Sakuna super boss with all your abilities that cycles through all your different weapons throughout the fightthat boss is way too fucking good to be optional holy shit
>Final boss is the first boss
>>733033484I know we have these threads fairly often, but they never fail to make me like Shinji there.
>>733036238I dunno anon, it's pretty damn easy to ride&die against your dipshit boss.
>>733033484tropes and kino are mutually exclusive to meif it's kino it's gotta be something out of left field
>early game boss that you struggled against was actually just a common enemy from later in the game>you're so much more powerful/skilled that they're no longer a threat to you
>>733085469Capra Demon
>>733085469>Demon Gaze's final boss that can summon all the other bosses from the game as adds during the fightman I should replay that
>>733033484Boss phases of the power up kindExample, Super Arnold fight in modded lisa the pointless.