>meow
>He hasn't played Black Matrix, Mystic Ark, Dragon Knight, Khamrai, Surging Aura, Bounty Sword 2, Velldeselba Senki, Racing Lagoon, Elona+, Romancing SaGa, Baroque, Brandish, pedit5, Lunatic Dawn, Zill O'll, Tokyo Clanpool, Coven, Genius of the Sappheiros, Oreshika, Velldeselba Senki, Gdleen, Knights in the Nightmare. Unlimited SaGa, Bealphareth, Linda Cube, MOON remix, Gunparade March, Uncharted Waters 2, Ultima Ratio Regum, Daikoukai Jidai Gaiden, Digan No Maseki, Marl Kingdom, Azure Dreams, Vanguard Bandits, Inindo, Kartia, Grind Stormer, Traverse, Langrisser, Growlanser, Yggdra Union, Front Mission 2, SRW @ Gaiden, Popolocrois, Vantage Master, Metal Max, Shadow Tower, Laplace's Demon, Dungeon Master, Another Century's Episode, R.E.N.G.O.K.U. or Carnage Heart yetCan you even call yourself a gamer?
CAT FIGHT!CAT FIGHT! CAT FIGHT!
>>733075059nothing wrong with thatjust goes to show it isn't the genre that is the problem, but the presentation >hmm what if we made SRPG but without autistic levels of grinding, and funny cats? >1million copies sold
>>733075339Baroque is not an SRPG
>>733075059Yeah everyone gets it you have to be a contrarian you're so cool
>>733076151>without autistic levels of grindingname 10 SRPGs which do that
>>733076201no shit, most of the games on that list are just RPGs
>>733076151doesn't mewgenics encourage some level of grinding to finish some of the cat donation requirements?>inb4 the game is not that hard, even without the grindwell the case is the same for most srpgs out there , just list 10 fire emblem games
>>733076151>M-MUH PRESENTATION!!God, I hate you zoomers so much. You'd eat up the biggest kusoge trash as long as it has nice graphics
/v/ isn't ready to hear it but mewgenics has more depth than the vast majority of SRPGs
>>733076151kek, this game literally is the SRPG for people who hate SRPGs
>>733076619The vast majority of SRPGs are brainless button-mashers so this isn't an impressive feat, anon
>>733076795and yet anons would struggle to name even 5 of them with more depth than mew
>>733075059I don't like it as much as Advance Wars.But it's still good.
>>733076841all Dept. Heaven gamesyour little reddit game isn't that impressive, anon
>>733076952>all Dept. Heaven gamespffttt...I'd give you knights in the nightmare MAYBE
>>733075059Here's how I see it: If I want to have mindless fun with cats, I'll play Mewgenics. If I want to use my brain, I'll play Phantom Brave, Phantom Kingdom, Knights in the Nightmare, etc.Simple as
>>733075059for me, it's Hoshigami
>>733075339Proud of not playing all that trash and not being gaymer
>>733076952>Dept. Heavenbased, for me it's KiTN>Gungnir>Yggdra (including Gloria and Blaze, though Blaze is the best of the three IMO)>Riviera>>733077056you havent played any of them
>>733078360you haven't played mewgen
>>733075059Kitten's first*missed opportunity
>>733076841thracia 776, smt devil survivor 1&2, langrisser 4&5, natural doctrine, yggdra union, front mission 2&4, moekuri,...i could go on and on
>>733078494>smt>front mission>>>deepnah you're taking the piss here mate
>>733078564still deeper than mew
>>733078603not even close
>>733076151Fire Emblem games sell more though
Do you lose quest items if you fail a run with it?
>>733078726yes, I lost the persuasion device because of infested
>>733076494Do you think presentation just means graphics? In reference to to a piss and shit filled Edmund Mcmillen game that they even made a tool for to let him keep making his crusty art in flash?
>>733075059Looked it up and it seems to do nothing new, just a potluck of plagiarized mechanics. I guess it's a nice introduction to SRPGs
>>733075059Lol seems like the meta for your game to pop off is have it based on cats since so many people seems to like or have cats shit they are more popular than dogs right now funny enough
>>733078564Front Mission's combination of hard engineering constraints (weight/power), targeted functional damage, and (sometimes) AP + link networks creates a very chess-like feel: the game is constantly asking you to choose between competing tactical principles, not just the best combo you rolled this run like with Mew. It is significantly deeper.
>>733079041>not just the best combo you rolled this run like with Mew>im-fucking-plyingyou have not played enough mew if you genuinely believe this
What's wrong stand for Special RPG
>>733075339> Be hasn't played blimpo, heaven cum 2, blade storm nigga, azure cumquat reverie, dicklords quest, blessing night piss, shitnigger, dumb ass gay retards 6, I am a gay retard 2, mononosume micropenis,
>>733079135It's constant projection with you shitposting retards. I don't even think Front Mission is complex but to imply it's simpler than Mewgenics or that the latter has any complexity is fucking insane. And that's just staying within the confines of its SRPG mechanics, its "roguelike" elements are fucking laughable for anyone with a bit of experience in the genre. It's such addictive slop
>>733079376don't reply to me until you reached Core
>>733075059Its the current fotm streamer slop game dead at the end of the month. Zoomies just wanna pretend they're like strimmer man. Fucking mindless cattle
>>733077056>knights in the nightmare MAYBENo, it's absolutely more complex, what the fuck are you stammering about retard? KitN makes you simultaneously solve:>a kill-pattern puzzle (Enemy Matrix),>an enemy selection puzzle (Encounter Reels),>a stance/kit legality puzzle (Law/Chaos + phase-locked weapons),>and a four-resource economy under execution pressure (Time + MP + VIT + Durability), with recruitment/Transoul acting as long-horizon optimization layersthe fuck does Mew even have on this?
>>733075059Shit RPG? Nah, I played FF10-2 first.
>>733075059who gives a shit, nigger
>>733079631watch these sheep spam /v/ for months with shit like "the only SRPG worth playing" and "why aren't more games like this" once they grow tired of it. None of them actually play any games, it sucks that only nearly dead boards like /vrpg/ or /vst/ have actually on-topic threads
>>733075339>Vantage MasterWhy is it that so few SRPGs use hexagonal tiles?
>>733078815nta but I literally can't think of a single SRPG with a shit UI besides maybe Disgaea 2. Actually, Dept. Heaven games have incredible UI design considering what clusterfuck they are mechanically
>>733079694aside from stances, all of this also applies to (late-game) mew, only the terminology & presentation differs. Instead of transoul, you have the surprisingly deep breeding system, just as an example. You should play mew before talking smack about it anon.
>>733080438nta but breeding is more like between-run/legacy optimization
>>733081118progression occurs outside of runs, so this distinction does not matter. The entire point of the game is to breed good cats, the runs are a means to an end.
>>733078726Yes for side quest. But you can get that quest again later on. You just need to donate cats
>>733078494Laugh at the retard that thinks fucking thracia is a deep game. Mewgenics is a hot mess, but that's a different story.
>>733080438>only the terminology & presentation differsnah, it's just different kinds of depths. KitN's is more constraint-coupled and mandatory per decision, whereas Mew's depth is more breadth + variance
>>733080438>all of this also applies to (late-game) mewStrongly disagree. Even granting that late-game Mew can have a lot of layered systems, "all of this" is doing a ton of dishonest work here. The original comparison wasn’t that both games have progression and builds, it was about what constraints you’re forced to solve inside a fight, turn after turn, and how tightly those constraints are coupled.In KitN, core combat pressure comes from a bundle of mechanics that aren’t "just another skin" for standard SRPG progression:>Enemy Matrixkills aren’t just about removing threats, they’re about filling specific slots to complete a line. That makes target selection a routing puzzle, not merely taking the best DPS target>Encounter Reelsyou're often partially choosing the next set of enemies, and that choice interacts with the matrix objective. That’s a separate decision layer from building good units>Real-time execution tax inside a turntime/action budget is actively drained by charge windows and dodging bullet patterns. That’s a mechanical constraint that directly couples player execution to tactical economy in a way Mew's turn-based pacing generally doesn’t mirror. Note that I have nothing against pure turn-based games, in fact, I prefer those generally but the real-time is done so well in KitN, it's absolutely another layer of depth>Multi-attrition economy that shrinks options even when you're winningVIT (unit lifespan), durability (gear lifespan), plus time/MP loops all creating situations where the safe play can be strategically wrong because it costs you roster/tools you can’t trivially replaceYou can argue Mew has analogs (and it does, in broad strokes), but "all of this applies" is just false unless you flatten "depth" down to "there are systems"
So is this the new xcom or what?
>cat game>get dognice game
>>733082896>unless you flatten "depth" down to "there are systems"are you implying that being systems-driven does not inherently add depth?
>>733083203A game can have 150 interacting subsystems and still play shallow if those systems:>don't force meaningful tradeoffs>don't meaningfully constrain each other>resolve into a dominant strategy ("always pick X, always do Y")that's just more stuff to track, not necessarily more interesting decisions
>>733083024From what I played of XCOM to prepare for this game, I think XCOM can fill its own military bro niche while this is a game for the indie sphere
>>733083395Mew only suffers in act 1, after that you have to strategize effectively. I'd consider act 1 an extended tutorial anyway
>>733083146>4 speedYep, somebody's getting piped.
>>733083639Please don't tell me that, I'm having fun. :(
>>733083716act 1 is fun but it is rather easy tbqhwy
>>733075245youu FUCKING NAZI!!!
>>733077287this
>own a potato from 2013When is this game coming to console?I wanna play too!!
>>733084523This game was built in 2012
I prompted an AI song inspired by the game, hope you like it>https://vocaroo.com/1izRdD0FQ2fN
>>733084669>I promptednope
>>733075245errr.... Kiiinda problematic. :/Have you heard of Litt R. Lihoo? He's a BAD person with EVIL politics I don't agree with! And he voiced a cat in this game! If Edmund isn't cancelled and thrown into a bottomless pit by Tuesday, his BIGOTED stances will gain more ground, and the world will be overrun by chuds!!
>>733076151There's autistic levels of grinding though. yuge metaprogression wall.
>>733075059I personally dislike this game for many reasons that are pet peeves. Like the lyrics in the songs: Way too repetitive, I shouldn't have to hear the same loop every 2 minutes. That's the kind of thing that lets me know this is for tasteless, soulless normies.
>>733083146Does it meow?
>>733084669I don't have a problem with the use of AI.I have a problem with the shit >I le rhymed it lyrics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0D3uYRqaq8
How do I breed good? When does it become viable?
>>733075339Imagine all the actual video games you could have played instead of wasting time on this braindead slop, if you've played even a single real video game before I don't know how you can sit through any of this crap and not get genuine anxiety that you're inflicting misery and stagnation upon yourself. I just wound up refunding mewgenics in an hour and I will never play it again, just like balatro, and I won't waste my time on this crap either. And I'd have to ask how you can justify something like carnage heart over, say, exapunks, if gameplay is what you really care about, as it's the actual game version of the superficial and fake idea carnage heart is pretending to be. All rpg gameplay is just fake padding and all people who like this crap are fake and dead inside.
If you get the old cat warning is that my last chance to pipe them somewhere else before they croak and go to the other me?
>>733075059>a very rough 1.5 hour run while barely surviving>lose to the Junkyard boss by one turn>get nothing while wasting all that time strugglingidk man, not feeling it so far. the abilities also feel very boring. I guess im just used to isaacs crazy synergies and effects. Cats being one time use, I guess I wanted some actual permanent characters with builds. not everything being so run-limited
WarningThe boss in the future area in act 3 is kino
>>733075059Mewgenics proving once again that the west is 100x better at designing turn based gameplay. Cope and seethe, jappas and jappa dicksuckers
>>733086681Not last chance exactly, they can stick around for a while despite being old and tired.
>>733086784You get progress with the dead cat hoarder.It's 2 time use since only retirees can fight house invaders.
>>733086810it's braindead as fuck though
>>733086940maybe if you're still in act 1
>>733086940That's literally every single rpg ever made
All this time and that faggot Edmund still doesn't understand how to make his horrible art not blend into visual diarrhea the moment the screen gets remotely crowded.
>>733086308You need stimulation to breed good. You need comfort to breed lots. You need appeal to get better strays to stave off inbreeding without introducing bad stats. You need Tink unlocks to help provide the info you need to be efficient and not have freak inbred cats.Breeding is NOT NESSECARY in act 1. Any cats will do to get you through.
>>733087003>>733087023when does it get difficult?
Should I just be using Items all the time and not trying to save them or keep them unworn?
>>733087083act 2 gets harderthen spoilers completing some quests unlocks hard mode
>>733087083It doesn't, go play a real video game. This is a fake game for people who think MTG and dnd 3.5 are equivalent to quantum physics and take great joy in explaining their underrail builds to the underage third worlders they tricked into playing the game
>>733087217t. hasn't played the game
>>733087271Yes I did, it's an unironic retard game
>>733087217wow a real Magic the Gathering expert
>>733087302t. completed alley once and thinks he's seen the entire game
>>733087131>hard modeIs it like when you take the hard paths and the units are buffed?
>>733087314Yes I am quite certain Edmund is a large (physically) fan of mtg, his games give me that impression. Like instead of games it's just braindead bloat, Isaac was like that too. Like there's not a single second of isaac that was challenging, it was just an endless sea of bloat.
>>733075059People can't even remember bg3 anymore, let alone anything from 20 years ago. Smartphones did a number on the brain functions.
Do you get the class unlocks for beating Boneyard or is it just Caves?
>>733086810That's an opinion you can have, but Westoids have largely abandoned turn-based gameplay with the advent of simulation "RPGs" like Ultima VII and the popularity of immersive sims (UW2, etc.). The average WRPG nowadays is just a looter-shooter with no party system whatsoever, obligatory sex scenes, and cringe walls of text "dialogue" with no meaningful choices. Roguelikes are the exception, not the rule. In that sense, the average WRPG is just as awful as the average JRPG. Now when it comes to the peaks of both industries, JRPGs are much more inventive on the turn-based front. Something like Romancing SaGa is more of a true successor to Ultima IV and V than any WRPG released afterwards could ever dream of being.
>>733087436>his games give me that impressionMore like you just watched his Tiktok. I don't trust any of you fags claiming you play games here.
>>733075339>Vanguard banditsBased.Also Vandal hearts.
>>733087408haven't tried it yet, still going through act 3 on normal first. the later enemies and bosses can get pretty tricky even on normal
The difficulty could ramp up faster, but it's just really well thought out and well built. It's just a good game
>>733087361My cats in real life only ever explore the alleys anyway. I'm not sure why anyone would play this game further and send their cats into caves and shit?
>>733087361nta but bloat != complexity.
>>733075059so many middle aged cishets in this thread....
>>733087436Edmund bought several Black Lotus cards (worth at least $250,000).He's obsessed with Magic
Why would one ever want to use Forbidden Fruit or any of the other items with "permanent consequences"? I ruined a promising run from the very start with it.
>>733087695>Go play a real tactics RPG>like Persona 5lol
>>733087514>Something like Romancing SaGa is more of a true successor to Ultima IV and V than any WRPG released afterwards could ever dream of being.Saga is literally just final fantasy with a ton a bloat piled on, emerald beyond had literal skyrim waypoint arrows and was just a battle system that made absolutely no sense existing in an rpg context. People who like this stuff are people who want to play puzzle games or wargames, but are way too stupid to do so. Like as soon as someone tells me they like saga I know that person is a complete retard beyond saving.
>>733087761Just like with pills in Isaac...you don't.
>>733087761It's a cat you were going to dumpster anyway after the run
>>733087761They're there for rouge-like funsies. Also the burst of power could be very useful Edmund has always loved designs like those
>>733087543I have 200 or so hours in isaac. At the time of its release there was literallt nothing else to play, it was like the dark ages, and i regret every single second of it. I know what im talking about and I can post my hours if you want. When I tell you guys something is slop, I'm telling you from experience, what is a waste of time, and what you're doing to yourself, and how you can accelerate yourself down the path of finding something actually decent to play.
>>733087724Yeah you don't have to play Mewgenics to know he's a fan of Magic
>>733087686>the game having more than one level is bloathigh IQ
>>733087801>final fantasy with a ton a bloat piled onhow so>emerald beyond had literal skyrim waypoint arrowshow so?> a battle system that made absolutely no sensehow so?I love how you braindead retards can't even specify what you dislike about these games, it's always just buzzwords. Also, the context in which Romancing SaGa was mentioned was that it carried on the legacy of Ultima V, which is objectively true. You would know this had you played any of these games
>>733075059Haven't bothered to play Mewgenics yet but I love Into The Breach and nu-XCOM. I'm sure Tactics Ogre and similar Jap titles are good but the story elements in JRPG's have always been so groan-worthy to me. Filled to the brim with tropes along with middle-school tier storytelling. Western games have a fair share of annoying shit in them as well, like quippy writing, but at least I can usually skip story segments in western games. In Japanese games I must suffer through paragraphs upon paragraphs of juvenile writing for maladjusted children.
>>733087985>Also, the context in which Romancing SaGa was mentioned was that it carried on the legacy of Ultima V, which is objectively trueUltima V is literally an adventure game with rpg combat lazily tacked on to make travel between towns where you solve keyword puzzles slightly hazardous. SaGa also plays absolutely nothing like this. You have no fucking idea what you're talking about and you've never played a single real video game. You are the cancer killing this board.
Fuck me, act 3 does not mess around.
>>733088086we are all maladjusted children here, brother... come home.
>>733088176Nah I'm a big boy grown-up
>>733087957>thinks 200 hours is a lot>is a normalfag with basic bitch tastes who only thinks the most popular game around is the only thing to play
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>>733075059it's got a lot of depth and way more interesting decisions to make compared to most of the big names actually. that's mostly criticism of the big names, more than it is praise of this game. But at the end of the day it compared very favorably to most of the games anyone in this thread has actually played
Act 2 is fucking bullshit and I'm quitting the game because of it.
>>733088228I'm playing ketsui right now, and I've given examples of better games to play than mewgenics, such as exapunks.
>>733078681What a weak ass cope lol. An entire first party nintendo series beat a single indie game that came out a few days ago, and that's supposed to be a gotcha?. But you know that Splatoon 1 and 2 (not even counting 3 lmao) sells more than the ENTIRE Fire Emblem franchise?
>>733088314I didn't ask about your normalfag tastes you narcissistic retard.
LITERALLY FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE
HE'S A BAD BAD KITTY!A BAD BAD KITTY!
>>733088441What happened? you let the cultists wash him did't you
>>733088245I just reached him for the first time after a disaster of a run and somehow managed to beat him with a single necromancer hopping from corpse to corpse to stay alive
Do you ever not take a tank? Cleric and tank are in every one of my groups
>>733088420>
>>733088338>using splatoon as an example of a high-selling franchiseThe first game only mustered a few million, and 3 couldn’t even sell more than the 2 and was beaten out by shit like nintendo switch sports. For what’s supposedly one of nintendo’s biggest franchises it sure doesn’t sell like its one
I've never seen anyone in these bait threads actually bring up any negative about the game aside from>it's not Xsounds like we won, edmundheads
>cleric cat gets psychosis>"ok hopefully he can heal the other cats when trying to attack">mfw>he also had a skill to revive himselfAct 2 wasn't so bad except for this
>>733088731How is having no actual gameplay whatsoever not a negative
>>733079760It is very sussy that prosecutors never once pursued a rape charge
>>733075059>finish the caves>raid the shop>realize I fucked up
>>733088869>no actual gameplayDo you think it's just watching cats fuck or something?
>>733088441dude just bodyblock the cultists it's that easy
>>733088869have you tried making a coherent posttry it, see how it goes
>Cats with scatology kill the second boss in 1 hit because he has poop inside himpretty neat
>>733088869>no actual gameplayAh damn anon, you totally got us. Now that you've won, you can go back to playing your favourite gameplay-first games, like nu-GoW.
>>733087801EB earns its reputation for extreme combat complexity because it treats a turn as an economic and positional puzzle that both sides are allowed to solve, with the rules made visible enough that outcomes usually feel earned rather than arbitrary. This creates a decision space where tactical planning is not an afterthought to damage selection but the main act. It is, without a doubt, one of the greatest turn-based combat systems>>733087695This is not a culture war issue as much as you would like to make it one. Nobody in this thread would claim Persona 5 is complex let alone a TRPG. The reality is a large part of /v/ prefers shitposting about games over playing them and they flood TRPG threads now, screaming Mew is the only one worth playing>>733088135Remind me what Saruin's minions are inspired by you massive poser? Or what Ultima IV and V were known for at the time? Because it certainly wasn't for its combat or keyword system. It's rather the large, reactive overworld with deep dungeon and underworld exploration, systemic travel tools, and world-state pressures that are not optional side garnish. Kawazu has even described Ultima IV as his favorite video game and explained how it expanded his sense of what games can offer beyond "winning" and completion, something you evidently still struggle with.Ultima V is directly in that same lineage, taking the virtue-driven Britannia framework and turning it into a more systemic, reactive world (day/night, schedules, oppressive enforcement, roaming Shadowlords). SaGa’s signature Free Scenario”philosophy is basically a console RPG-native evolution of that same player-led, system-forward ethos: nonlinear exploration, multiple protagonists, event-driven progression,...Not to mention, RS:MS's Pantheon system is a direct bridge to Ultima V: the idea that religion/ethics is a real, mechanically expressed axis of play, tracked invisibly, and tied to shrines/rituals rather than to a character sheet slider
>>733088921It's literally just a fake promise of gameplay, like every rpg or card game. Like the kind of retards consuming this stuff are people who hit even a single obstacle and go "THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE" and then a fat retard bursts into the thread and tips his fedora and goes"Erm actually if you combine the squeeble squabble with the woozle flamboonie you can deal 6 trillion damage per turn, it's quite simple *snort*" and these are all extremely obvious pre-baked curated synergies like in mtg or an obsidian game that are just supposed to make retards feel excited over discovering them. It's all fake as fuck and boring. None of this is actual gameplay, it's just a series of toothpick sized hurdles presented at random along a base-line path that is so bland and forgiving you won't get thrown off if you have even 2 function braincells. Like Edmund is the type of person who thinks filling a game with obvious bad choices is depth. That's mtg brain.
>>733075059>that artnope
>>733089193I'm going to stop responding to you because you're clearly retarded and ignoring what I'm saying, and just stating "it's the best because it just is!!!!!" over and over now.
>>733089371All you've spouted is a few buzzwords, but I accept your concession, shitposter
>>733089274>It's literally just a fake promise of gameplaywhat the fuck am i reading
>>733079760I'm going to be so upset if he kneels and removes voices
>>733089274>tranime>absolute retardationchecks out
>>733089274Go make your own game then
>>733086584you just said a whole bunch of nothing bud
>>733089274A game is literally you following the instructions of the designer to have fun. That's it. If you follow the instructions and you are having fun, it is de facto a good game.The fact that people feel good about discovering synergies and want to play more of the game to find more of them shows how good of a game this is.
>>733076151remove pride flag and such it will be gold again, fucking Edmund like what happened man why though?
>>733089428To be fair, he is right on that. The gameplay is far too heavy on a few puzzle-checks, either you obliterate everything or everything obliterates you
>>733089428It's leading you on going "it's going to be a real video game eventually, trust me guys" and then the game just ends. RPGs are like the penultimate idea guy games where it's entirely a giant vat of snake oil that goes nowhere. There is zero actual substance. RPG means "pretend the game is not shit."
>>733089274do you know when someone has some really gay personal ick that doesn't make any sense and instead of realizing that they just come up with the most retarded post-hoc justifications possible? yeah that's you
>>733087103Anons please
>>733089274I have never said this seriously to a person, but git gud.
act 2 is impossible
>>733076279I don't think 10 srpgs even exist
>>733089631If they are going to be useful, use them.
>>733089602Dude every single permanent rpg thread on /v/ is full of woozle flamboonie posting. Every single one of them is a retard game with this super arbitrary ivory tower bloat a retard can understand, and the threads are full of retards going "UMMMMMM ACTUALLY IF YOU RAISE YOUR HITTING THINGS STAT IN MORROWIND YOU CAN HIT THINGS NO PROBLEM". These people are genuine retards, this is a genre for boring smooth-brained cattle.
>>733089631Save up items for certain builds then commit to going further with a better team.
>>733089519>The fact that people feel good about discovering synergies and want to play more of the game to find more of them shows how good of a game this is.What is the point of these synergies is there is no gameplay-pressure to use any of them in a constrained manner?The game is openly built around a massive combinatorial space (hundreds of items and over a thousand abilities), so it is almost guaranteed that players will experience novelty and occasional "I found a busted combo" fake excitement. But "players want to keep playing to find more synergies" is compatible with two contradictory design states:(1) meaningful, player-driven buildcraft, or(2) a huge library where many choices are close substitutes, so discovery is more about seeing new text and animations than about making hard, differentiating decisions.The sheer diversity can work against player agency, that some items/skills become similar to keep builds viable, and that early on it can feel like picks "don’t really matter" because many reasonable choices perform similarly, even the late game suffers from this very strongly. This is where actually good SRPGs like Knights in the Nightmare shine: it is not about "keep rolling the dice until you stumble into the funny combo" like Mewgenics, it's more like "learn a rule-heavy system that makes you pay for mistakes, forces tradeoffs, and often does not fully explain itself"Even selecting up to four items for a turn costs you durability at turn end, which makes "bringing options" expensive and pushes you toward committed planning rather than endless experimentation. Many high-end actions carry direct long-term costs as well (for example, EX skills consuming VIT in the mechanics writeups), so the game trains you to think in sacrifices and opportunity cost, not in "try more runs to discover more silly interactions"
>>733089882Classic woozle flamboonie post, only a genius could think up that strategy
>>733089841repeating your ick dumb shittery won't make it eventually right, I already concluded you're a senseless idiot
>>733089914>This is where actually good SRPGsThere are no good srpgs lol
The fake woman is right. I'm only have fake fun with my fake strategies in this fake game that I bought with my fake money.
got a cat?LET'S FIGHT
>>733089989Woozle flambooniebros...
>>733089989It's okay to have shit taste, anon
>>733089979either way. KitN is far superior
>>733076841Fire Emblem Engage
I love how the warpigger is silent now that Mewslop has been exposed as just another braindead SRPG
ive never played an srpg, what are some good ones?
>>733087103If you don't, the game obliges you to trash the items
>>733090294boku no pico
>>733088246>it's got a lot of depth and way more interesting decisions to make compared to most of the big names actuallywhat SRPGs have you played?
>>733090294Makai Kingdom and the Dept. Heaven games are pretty good if you want depth
>>733089914I mean yea, KitN is one of the most complex SRPGs out there lol. Kind of difficult to trump. Mewgenics holds up alright compared to other SRPGs imo
>>733090118Well the only guy who agrees with you also hates the genre so it's not a good look
>>733085724this, idk what the fuck people are doing in this thread pretending there is no grinding. Mew is much more similar to Disgaea than other tactics rpgs
>>733090834How about you engage with the argument you lobotomized chimp? We can compare the two games all you want, KitN will reign supreme
>>733075245>>733083964>>733085537since when is /v/ defending jews and trannies?
>>733089274>>733089569Reminder that these Anons will never tell you what games they think are good and will inevitably convince themselves that they were pretending to be retarded
>>733090924>Reminder that these Anons will never tell you what games they think are goodI've done that 4 times in this thread already
>>733075339>>733076952>>733078360>>733078494>"NOOOO [GAME X] IS NOT A REALY [GENRE Y]">what's a real one then?>"IT'S [huge list of weebslop with pantyshots and kawaii uguu girls]"Every fucking time kek, reminds me of the Expedition 33 seething.
>>733090924nta but if you were to follow the reply chain you'd see that guy likes Exapunk. Learn to read
>>733091037are you okay, anon?
>>733090885Zone of the Enders: Fist of Mars is the best handheld SRPG, and Mewgenics is even better.
>>733091130>game is le good>game is le badCome on, anon, put your thoughts into words. Why do you think it's good?
I don't have the game and would like to ask a question to those that have played it a lot : given that I have read multiple times that the first act is quite easy, do you not get bored having to play through it every time ? Or is the variety enough to compensate the lack of difficulty ?
>>733078408NTA but I have and I've found Yggdra Union to be infinitely more interesting from a mechanical standpoint, haven't played the other Dept. Heaven games yet
>>733091221No, hard mode barely makes Act 1 any harder.
>>733089914>and often does not fully explain itselfHaven't played Knights in the Nightmare, but I find it vexing that strategy/SRPG game fans confuse obfuscation/lack of clarity with game depth. Chess has simple, understandable rules and nobody think chess is lacking in complexity or depth. I have played the other Sting game, Yggdra Union, and I found it to be an absolutely irritating piece of shit with headache inducing music. I swear it's hipsterism propping up these bad, obtuse strategy games, it can't be anyone's honest to god first pick, when they're not being looked at by their peers.You don't need a dense canopy of mechanics for a good strategy space, you just need a deep pocket of interactive elements (items, skills, effects - think Slay the Spire) and the circumstances to promote emergent gameplay (randomization) and novel combinations. I find Shiren Mystery Dungeon games to be densely tactical and they're easy even for a teenager to understand, but some of the dungeons are pretty fucking maddeningly tough and demand a lot of sharp thinking and planning to get through them reliably.
>>733091221>>733091382why are you people so concerned about how you should feel about a game you haven't even played
>>733091039Go ahead and show me where on the >>733089274>>733089569reply chain Exapunk is mentioned.
>>733091463I'm interested in strategy games and roguelikes. It's likely I'll play this one day.
ALL OF MY NIGHTS, I'M CHASIN' RATS
>>733091382>Haven't played Knights in the Nightmarethe core problem here.You're not criticizing KitN so much as it is criticizing an imagined version of KitN, then using that as evidence that Sting fans confuse obfuscation with depth. If someone has not engaged with the rules, they are not in a position to diagnose what the game’s appeal is supposed to be, much less psychoanalyze the people who like it>obfuscation = depthnice strawman. What people usually point to with KitN is not hidden information, but unusually strict, legible constraints that you have to solve simultaneously. The game is very explicit about several of its defining systems: you control a Wisp that must dodge projectile patterns; a turn timer starts at 60 seconds and only drains when you charge/execute attacks or when the Wisp is hit; weapons are class-restricted; you only have four weapon slots; Law weapons cannot be used in Chaos and vice versa. None of that is mystery box design, it is upfront rule pressureEven the victory condition that makes KitN feel like a tactics puzzle is not obscured. Outside of boss fights, the stated goal is to align enemy deaths in a tic-tac-toe style across the Enemy Matrix, rather than simply killing everything, and the game even ties this to enemy selection via a roulette-style spawn system. That is just an unusual objective structure that changes what "good play" means. Just because you have to infer a lot of rather unusual objectives does not make the game obfuscated but it does not explain itself either>absolutely irritating>headache inducing musicThis does not establish anything beyond personal taste. How about you explain why these games are obtuse?Yggdra is plainly built around a distinctive strategic model: each turn you choose one card that determines movement and enables a card skill, while unions depend on gender-based formation geometry (cross vs X) to chain attacks, and morale functions as the primary durability metric.
>>733075059I tried it out. It's an alright concept but gets boring fast.I would prefer if they let you level up cats after expeditions instead of retiring them. Basically more like Darkest Dungeon where losing a high level character is high risk
>>733091221Gonna just say it: it's a slog. I go through it everytime because I like what comes after but Act 1 is not well thought-out at all
>another RNG heavy game with unlocks that completely fuck your item poolNeat idea, just not for me. Cool soundtrack though.
>>733083024Nah, xcom has a different vibe and tempo. Still great if you like grid tactics in general. The variation in gameplay between runs is excellent.
>>733084523If you have a dedicated vidya card it will work. You can reduce rendering scale to like 70%, it still looks good at that.
>>733092027Yggra Union is obtuse because it isn't clear how precisely battle outcomes are determined and calculated. It's a bunch of loosely connected systems that you're told to Engage with, but what do they do? For example, you're told to, "hold back" or "push the charge" during an engagement but it's not explained anywhere, so far as I can tell, what EXACTLY this is doing numerically.It's like being told to press the "fun-knob for good vibes." The entire game is like this, just vibes.Meanwhile I can explain exactly how Slay the Spire or Fire Emblem or Into the Breach calculate damage and determine battle outcomes in a way that a retarded child would understand. Yggdra Union is obfuscated under layers of pointless systems, and for what? Am I really to believe it's harder or more complex than Slay the Spire A20?
>>733091382>You don't need a dense canopy of mechanics for a good strategy space, you just need a deep pocket of interactive elements (items, skills, effects - think Slay the Spire)Slay the Spire is braindead normalfagslop kys
>>733092510are we just throwing out buzzwords now
>>733092510Yet A20 spreads your lil bussy
went to crater for the first timefucking hate that shithole, got destroyed by amebas once you lose one cat you just lose them all since you cant kill them before they grab you act 2 is insane
>>733091382>SRPG game fans confuse obfuscation/lack of clarity with game depththis is so true and it's blatantly evident by this thread.
GATO
>>733075339I remember elona+. I got several of those bell things as pets and it broke the game
>>733092184>I would prefer if they let you level up cats after expeditions instead of retiring them.The idea is you're supposed to breed them, the new cats will inherit traits from their parents and you keep most of your equipment between runs, being able to reuse the same squad of cats wouldn't be balanced for how this game is designed. You do, however, use the retired cats for something else later in the game.
>>733092496>isn't clear how precisely battle outcomes are calculatedYou don't need exact formulas you fucking retard given that you have clear ways to control these outcomes if you use your brain and understand the mechanics. For example, card POW primarily determines morale damage once a clash is won, while the unit’s own stats, terrain, and equipment matter for combat performance. This is clear from observing the gameplay It is a deterministic framework with identifiable variables and known incentives (protect the head, seek clean wins, pick terrain well, avoid bad ATK/GEN matchups).>bunch of loosely connected systemsThey clearly play into each other? You choose one card per turn, and that card simultaneously constrains movement (MOV), sets the card power that drives morale damage, and determines which unit types can legally trigger the card skill (ACE requirements). Once you engage, the Aggression decision directly affects whether you can reach the skill-activation threshold and what damage you deal while doing so. Union formation rules (plus-shape for female leaders, X-shape for male leaders) determine who gets pulled into the engagement sequence, which can transform "one attack per turn" into a multi-clash chain where positioning on the map creates or denies local numerical superiority>you're told to, "hold back" or "push the charge" during an engagement but it's not explained anywhereIt is a concrete risk-reward lever tied to the Aggression system and to when you are allowed to use card skills, retard. Testing and actually reading the text shows "push forward" empties the meter for more damage while "hold back" does less damage while preparing to use an ability?>Am I really to believe it's harder or more complex than Slay the Spire A20?Shit comparison given that StS A20's difficulty is largely run-variance management under tight resource constraints while Yggdra's difficulty is often positional and tempo-driven at the map layer plus risk.
>>733092913how so
>>733089445>I'm going to be so upset if he kneels and removes voicesHe literally admitted to choosing voice cameos that would cause controversy (free advertisement). So they aren't going anywhere.
>>733093179Oh, you stopped posting /an/ pics and went to calling me a retard. You're mad. My bad.But look at how many words you're wasting trying to explain this obtsude game, and it still doesn't make sense to anybody, least of all yourself. You don't know even know how Yggdra Union works. Doesn't that bother you, that you're playing the entire game on vibes? No, clearly you enjoy that type of thing.
is there any way to tell what abilities a cat will get before you put the class badge on them?
>>733093293look at the absolute word-salad dept. heaven anon has been posting for examples.
>>733093352I mean you are the one impotently seething here over a perfectly fine SRPG filtering you because you lack the basic competency to infer game mechanics. Yggdra isn't even obtuse either as I have demonstrated>You don't know even know how Yggdra Union worksTry me
question before I buy: can the cats stay cute or they have to become abominations to win the game?
>>733075339Fm remakes yay or nay
>>733093550KitN has extensive tutorials though? So much so people complain that in the DS version, it takes too long to actually start the game?
>>733093570Why are you so pissed off this entire thread? Aren't game supposed to be fun?Explain Yggdra Union in a paragraph that would make sense to a kid of about 10-12 years of age. Explain it in a way where we might reasonably assume, upon receiving your explanation, the kid could play it pretty well and actually understand what is happening. Get all the mechanics in there too, don't leave anything relevant out of your explanation.
>>733091382>Haven't played Knights in the Nightmare, butstopped reading there. you are the cancer killing this board, genuinely. if you havent played a game, stfu about it
>>733093787Maybe you should have kept reading then? The "but" serves an important purpose there - segueing into a general discussion about obfuscation in strategy games, and about a different Sting game I'm more familiar with. But I understand reading is not easy, and I agree certain people are killing the board.
>>733093713if your game needs an hour of tutorials to memorize before you can start playing, it's poorly designed.
>>733093932it doesn't, which is why the PSP version lacks that
>>733093978I really doubt a brand new player would follow kitn's battle system without checking a bunch of tutorials first. It's a deliberately unusual and obtuse system.
>>733093929just read the reply chain>different Sting game I'm more familiar withyou weren't. That's the problem. Now please take my advice and stfu
>>733094039It's not obtuse.>>733094039>a brand new player would follow kitn's battle system without checking a bunch of tutorials first.the PSP version introduces them as they're needed. You're so clueless it's embarrassing
>>733094090I'm not obligated to talk about Knights in the Knightmare in this Mewgenics thread. You can stop wasting my time now. You're worse than the pseud glazing Knights in the Nightmare.
>>733094156never played the psp version
>>733094189you're not obligated to talk about a game you know fuck all about either, retard. Just stfu about it
super intelligent Knights in the Nightmare fan #2 above me
>>733075059Buy an ad unc.
what is this autism
>>733094482this is what dept. heaven does to a motherfucker
>>733075245
>>733094343>still cant stopi have never even played this game and would never pretend otherwise, unlike you who thought he could opine on the quality of a game he's never played. You quite literally are the cancer killing this board, complaining about games you have never played, not engaging in any serious discussion, and disintegrating upon the slightest pushback>s-stop wasting my time!!the arrogance needed to say that as you're actively derailing the thread being mad at what you believe a game you've never played is like. fuck me, you are worthless
Why is this anon so obsessed with a game he hasn't played? I'm talking about Sting and he keeps bringing up KotN, but he hasn't even played it.
>>733094664Would it be possible to get Luigi Mangione in an update?
>>733094813NTA but nobody gives a fuck, stop ruining the thread with your childish tamper tantrum.
Sure you aren't
>>733075059This game is kind of a bit difficult as a first time tactics RPG desu. There a probably more approachable stuff from Japan, especially portable games. Real big boys start with og x-com obviously.
>>733075059I don’t like the strategy game aspects of it, but I really like the breeding mechanics of it. I would really like a Free Cities-esque game like this.
How much times do I have to beat a boss to unlock the music on my radio?
>>733091382>the dungeons are pretty fucking maddeningly tough and demand a lot of sharp thinking and planning to get through them reliablyThey don't, most roguelikes take much more planning
I was hoping the home gameplay was a little more like the chao gardenI expect DLC with more shit and other cool voice actors
Mewgenics is genuinely soulful and newgroundian because Edmund is from that era.Don't be some spiteful dork like those E33 people who hate on jrpgs because of the aesthetics.
>>733075059>genre entry points are a bad thingretard
>>733095249>noooo you can’t have a valid criticism of a games ugly art style and early 2000s humour that aged like milk!!!
>>733095290Nobody ever said that but it is amusing how much /v/ likes to prop up this game yet hates every other SRPG. It's almost like they don't actually play games
>>733075059tf is a babby
>>733091382filtered
>>733095336>t. hates Ace Ventura because of a tranny joke
>>733089914Mew's strategy aspect isn't that strong imho, I play it for the breeding mechanics which I haven't seen done in any other game.
What’s the worst song?What’s the best song?
>>733093573anybody?
>>733086810>can't have fun discussing the game like all other anons>has to incite a flamewarwhat a sad thing you are. 4chan has melted your brain to the point of being unable to discuss a game without ragebaiting
>>733087695So is this why /v/ likes this game? Because the dev is interacting with culture war trash on xitter? I guess that's one way to market a game in the age where people care more about e-celebs than vidya
>>733092184Agreed. Reading about how many customization options you have, I didn't think I'd get tired of it just 2 days later lol
>>733095249>Mewgenics is genuinely soulful and newgroundian because Edmund is from that era.But its not soulful, its exploitative meme spam like guacamelee and old /v/ would have shit all over it. And it doesn't have any real gameplay. Like I'm playing ketsui now and I'm at this bit where there's a really ridiculous sequence, and I'm looking at replays on how to make it more consistent and there's not a single person who does it the same, see this time stamp herehttps://youtu.be/ZSivsrTNdho?t=1025Like just this simple bullet pattern where the plane vomits a giant aimed shot of blue bullets at you, I've looked at 10 different replays and no one does it the same. Here's my route here:https://streamable.com/4eldn8This is actual gameplay, this is actually engaging with the game. It's genuinely challenging and puts both my brain and motor skills to the test. You can't just apply a busted strategy, you have to execute, that's gameplay. And on the note of strategy, well in games like mewgenics there isn't any. Like you're not gunna counter-play to undermine some japanese 10 year old throwing a ranging hisha at youhttps://youtu.be/C9GZSW9d_MwWe wouldn't even have names for strategies like this because there isn't any, its just synergizing items and perks together and hammering the game to death with the blunt instrument you've created. This is the problem with so called "tactics games", they're all shallow crap lol
how does inbreeding works?
is this playable with gamepad?
>>733075339>No SaGa Scarlet Grace in the listNice larp
>>733089701>implying this is anything more than a beginner TRPG
>>733096553>idiot discovers that video games are just pressing buttons>idiot opines how pressing buttons in turn-based games requires no mechanical skill>idiot concludes that turn-based games must then require no skill at all>>733096610Ask your parents.
>>733096093No, people like it because it's a good game.
>>733096804>idiot concludes that turn-based games must then require no skill at allI literally gave you a good turn-based game as a comparison.
>>733087695this is not the first time I have seen a fucktard list persona as some sort of trve gameplay rpg.disgusting
>>733096553highest horse i've seen in these threads so far, like damn nyagga
>>733096553bullet hell fags are subhuman
>>733096925Well then why do I see retarded xitter posts spammed and retards like>>733083964>>733085537attempting to start some culture war shitflinging in every single thread? No other game has this
>>733096553anon, you have genuine mental illness or at least severe autism, think about how much time you spent assembling that post when you know people are enjoying both games for different reasons
>>733096804>tripfagkys
>>733096643Yup. I'm playing it on Steam Deck, and it play fine.That being said, I am also using the touchpad because it's just better than the analogue sticks/d-pad for picking tiles.
>>733087957Only 200 hours on isaac?
>>733089274If you're being serious, then congratulations!This is one of the top 5 most retarded takes I have ever seem posted in this website.And I have been here for 20 years.
>>733097068I forgot it on because I don't post that often when it's needed, thanks for the reminder.>>733096980Disingenuous at best, actively shitposting at worst.Round-based board games are going to require robust rulesets due to the circumstances of play. That can't be compared to a long-term downtime game like Mewgenics where you play a bit and want to see something mew most of the time.>Bro, did you know that chess is better than Dominions 4???That's how you sound.
>>733097350>no argument
>>733097386>Round-based board games are going to require robust rulesets due to the circumstances of playShogi doesn't have a robust ruleset, Go doesn't either. These are extremely simple and easy to learn games with extremely complex stratagems.>want to see something mew most of the timeConstantly stringing the player along with gimmicks is not good game design. That's a theme park and its both lazy and boring. This is what I mean by fake gameplay. Like instead of actually stimulating your brain by engaging with the game its just leading you along with breadcrumbs that never bring you to a loaf.
>>733076201This.It's a Roguelite.
>>733095790Just got to act 2 and every single song so far is unreasonably good
>>733095009>kind of a bit difficult as a first time tactics RPGplaying braindead "tactics" RPGs like FE does not prepare you for more involved games of the genre though. You kind of have to be exposed to that stuff to really grasp it
>>733096553>>733097672I'm having fun with Mewgenics>y-you are stupid thenno u>anime pic reply autism long poststfu faggot>b-but senpai*rapes you*
>>733075339How many of these games are actually good and not obscure shovelware people namedrop to give off the illusion of having taste
>>733098309make a thread on /vr/ and you'll see some people on this website actually play games, shocking, I know.
>>733087695>Personafag is retarded>AgainSMT chads stay winning
>>733096553awful anime react picture accompanied by even worse post. Sort yourself out, man.
some of the upgraded collarless abilities are straight up stupidthe spider just kept hitting herself whenever she tried to leave the screen and summon adds
>>733098662Yeah there are some wacky bullshit collarless things, and you unlock more by using them for unlocks.
>>733088086>Filled to the brim with tropes along with middle-school tier storytellingwhat game even does that besides maybe FF or Persona? Especially SRPGs rarely ever go into that direction, in fact, I'd say most suffer more from being pretty generic
so hum, cats die of old age so don't get attached?
>>733075339Don't forget Hat World New Testsment and Berwick Saga
>>733099147yes but they live ridiculously long and they keep breeding even as elderly catsdon't start expecting them to die until like 38+
Why the fuck is Cleric so fuckin broken lmao
im glad someone else saw the connection
>>733099409druid is pretty busted tooI just did a run with one who spammed giving my entire team +10 block and then +20 block every turn
>when you do the Zaratina vs Pyrophina fight, the winner joins you and stomps around around outside your housekino, has anyone managed to get a double kill and see what happens?
>>733099409I've yet to have great cleric, they've all just been decent. Fighter and thief tend to be my MVPs.
>>733096553You touhouniggers always act so condescending and smug then post shit like this that just highlights how pathetically insecure you are. Genuinely the worst fanbase.>but ketsui isn-Touhounigger.
>passive ability called overconfident>pick it confidentlySurely this won't go wrong
>have a great run going>uh you can't keep going into act 2 because even though you beat the boneyard you HAVE TO go home and then repeat the shit againfuck this artifical difficulty
>>733099497squirrel spam druid is really fun
>>733099827It is a pretty lame restriction Wonder if there's any way at all to avoid it
>>733099827gay
>>733089569if your """real video games""" are so great why do you have to distract yourself with shit tier moeslop like some tiktok zoomer
>>733099827>I should be able to roll in the desert which is intended for unleveled cats with a fully leveled teamyou're dumb
>gore ability for tanks turns them into Diablos from monhun>they're already somewhat close in colorationCoincidence or kino?
>>733088245ALIEN CRATERFELINE INVADER
>>733099932>which is intended for unleveled catsIt's fucking called ACT 2!Not ACT 1 - divergent pathIt's consciously called ACT 2, meaning a continuation!Stop supporting dumb game design.
>>733099705>call out retards for what they are>n-no you cant do that, im a special boy!!!!You know what you are and you know you're only gunna play slop. You played slop yesterday, you're gunna play slop today, and you'll play slop tomorrow. Play your slop, but don't pretend like its some heavenly ambrosia. You know exactly what this is. You're just gunna play slop and make boring posts. Don't ever complain about games being boring or woke or whatever again because you are the normalfag outsider to begin with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_8tOjkhvEMNazisisters... our response?
>>733099497Had same druid too. My druid healed everyone. Gave them plus attack and 10 block per turn. Cleric buffed my butcher several times per turn or just used rally. Butcher in turn got 2-3 attacks per turn. Did +12 damage. It went up ~3 per turn.Tank zoomed around and picked up enemies. Funnily enough bird was also really useful.
>>733075059more like>SRPGs if they were good
>>733100096It is more like act 1-2
thanks to whoever mentioned that you can right click enemies to see movement range + threat range because I wasted like 20 hours not knowing that and it makes me play infinitely better
>>733090892what about defending side by side with a friend?
>>733099409Turns out the class dedicated to keeping your teammate alive is broken
>>733098662it's fair because when an enemy confuses your cats the game becomes literal torture. feels good to be able to do it to enemies too.
>>733100261if you have no abilities selected you can click a direction to have cats face that directionmelee abilities can be used to pick up nearby coins
>>733075059Maybe I haven't played many SRPGs, but the absurdity of different mechanics interacting with eachother is off the charts with this game.
>>733076494shut the hell up anime nigger seriously your entire fucking genre has been reduced to copy paste boner cartoons trapped in cellphone lootboxes
>>733098232Good post!
This game wants to be persona 5 tactics so bad it’s kinda sad desu
This is not a friendly thread :(
>>733095368>it's amusing how much I upset myself over scenarios I'm imagining!
>>733099868>summon squirrel+>suicide squad>squirrel formOsama Bin Laden build is really fun desu
>>733100460OP didn't play the game, they just don't like people enjoying the game.Ironically their thread is now the next home for game discussion cause the other thread archived.
>>733098662I’m at work so I can’t post it atm, there’s a skill called Whirlpool that turns a fuckhuge area into water, confuses anyone standing in it, and rotates their positioning clockwise
This game gives me serious Concord 2 vibes.
>>733100737It’s flopping right now lol. Can’t even beat hades 2 numbers right now. Maybe think twice before including the kleins and Christine chan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EFI-BV9EJYIN ALL THE LOVE YOU'VE HADYOU'VE NEVER HAD IT LIKE YOU SHOULD
>>733087496you do
>>733100135NO NOT THE FURHER
>>733100460the only people shitting on mewgen are narcissists that would rather talk about themselves, the games they play, and their own feats while playing them. mewgen is genuinely up there with the best SRPGs
>>733100948>persona 5 tactica >final fantasy tactics >fire emblem The list goes on of superior ones goofy ahhhhh post here
>>733100115You are mentally ill and hide behind your autism pretending you represent the best of old 4chan. You are the poster child of insecurity and quite frankly the worst your ilk has offered. I should've seen a blank post with a smug laughing Reimu or Cirno already but instead you are coming off unironically earnest. You've already failed and I hope your threads laugh at you. I WILL play my slop, and you will continue to be a fucking dork convincing themselves their hole is the best place to be.
>>733100826it's cool that isaac's mom turned into a giant cannibalistic cat
GOTY
Mewbermensch
>>733101031one that equates eating cats alive with sex
>>733088587I started taking necromancer instead you get enough hp and lifesteal to surviveand there's a passive that damages every enemy when you heal so you want to get hit
>>733101026none of those are superior
>>733101026A close comparison would be Divinity Original Sin due to all the interacting mechanics, but mewgenics haters haven't actually player mewgenics or any games in the TRPG genre.
>>733101030You're just pic related. Everything I see on /v/ is people who just wanna consume slop, even the culture war stuff is just people screeching about someone killing their dude weed vibe, not impacting the game in any way that effects gameplay. I see video games splitting into two industries, one side is just gunna be people watching streamers play roguelite deckbuilders full of twitch memes and the other side is gunna be people playing video games.
>>733088587I’ve lost faith in cleric I’m at the point where I’d rather take a butcher and rely on meat pickups+another class that can heal
>units move on their own on turn oneWhat the fuck is that about
>>733101517you probably have a fear or madness debuff or something
>>733100096Its not dumb game design, you are just autistic and have this unrealistic and irrational expectation that all games should be exactly the way you expect them to be, faggot.
>>733101026Fire Emblem is barebones as fuck.
>>733101103Überkatze
>50 hours of watching enemies hit each otherwhat were they thinking
protip: you're better off taking another round to break crates/bags/graves than ending early, the rewards are virtually always worth it
>>733101491You're an obsessive retard and have an image saved just for this, even though nobody except for you gives a shit. Id tell you to get the fuck off the internet and get a clue but you're not exactly here by choice, and you know it.
>>733101831I choose not to believe you because it’s an annoying way to play
>>733075059>SRPGslovak rpg?
>>733101891understood, have a nice day
>>733101843You're just a boring normalfaggot and that's all you ever will be, and your existence is just a massive inconvenience to anyone actually interested in video games, or any hobby most likely.
>>733102093>He says as he specifically goes to the Mewgenics thread to bitch about it over several daysYou're no normalfag but you sure bitch like one
>>733102093>hes still posting (actual) tranime
>>733102093aren't you the guy that bragged about playing boi for 200 hours because he didn't have "anything else to play" loldevelop some self-awareness you massive normalfag
>>733102093You are becoming a strong argument for making it actually okay to feed a troll hundreds of (You)'s because the bar has been so fucking low for so long anyway. Especially here when you're failing to come off as not coping. We keep replying, but so do you. Latching onto muh old ways to distract from the fact you're just a bullet hell fag swinging their smelly balls around and posting anime girls as a crutch to fall back on. You either win the argument or it was bait all along, right? We see the song and dance everyday nigger.So you want a (You)? Here you go. Its my game now. Dance for me monkey. Dance dance dance.
how does it compare the the goat into the breach?
>>733101026>>persona 5 tacticaStop joking, Anon. Nobody played that.
>>733102952Into the Breach is a puzzle game.There's a lot more going on in this game and it's more like a traditional SRPG. It plays like a Larian game.
what happens if you lose to guillotina?
>>733103285>Into the Breach is a puzzle gamenice meme
>>733103335She eats all your kittens
I can't believe they are treating Mewgenics stars like this...
nerf the desert minibosses
>>733103479Nerf this *braaap*
>>733075059imagine if you could breed waifus instead, it would sell billions
>>733103545>Edmund game with waifusI'm not sure you would like this anonunless you are into some really fucked up stuff
Poo and pee and fetuses are funny!!!! Said no one ever
>>733103809but they are
is the game steakpilled?
>>733103545>>733103657Maybe a day someone with plenty of time can change the sprites of the game for a mod... And it's not gonna be easy.
>>733103870there is a LOT to chew onlaunch rebirth's content by comparison was pathetic
>>733104060and by god steven's gonna make you chew it to hell and back
Just watched a guy run solo through Act 1 with nothing but a Mage. Turns out if you can survive the beginning, your cat will be obscenely over-leveled by the end. Dude's mage went on to kill The Spider in a single turn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFhY9r52GOc
>>733103809It's so cringe and not funny that it wraps around into being funny. You wouldn't get it.
>>733095823They will inevitably become abominations in runs themselves, but you can try to do a looksmaxxing playthrough
>>733099409>>733099497>Cleric and Druid are OPIt's the return of CoDzilla! The breaker of games once again returns to terrorize the land!
>>733075059>more people have unlocked Desert than have gotten Tink's 2nd upgradeThe cheevo stats are weird for this game. Nearly 50% of players have unlocked Boneyard, which seems high for Steam. Is this just the way it is near launch?
>>733100818>Can’t even beat hades 2 numberslmaoalso>christine
>>733104760is this the highest playercount for a game released without a publisher backing it ever?
>>733104258is this a meme or is solo cat a viable way to play? I can see it making some uber cats even if very difficult
>>733105093It’s astroturfed slop when you have random e celebs playing it and being it in.
>>733105126it's required for an in-game challenge so it's at the very least doable
>>733105161even I have a meow in the game. Are you jelly?
>>733105093minecraft pre-microsoft?
>>733105161>he's not in
>>733105259true
>>733105093Among Us
Bullet Hell faggot going into threads and crying about how nobody plays "actual video games" will always be funny to me. "Waaaahhh, why don't people talk about THIS game!?" And it's usually RPG threads too. The idea of playing a game other than shumps is a foreign concept to this guy.People in general could just talk about what makes games interesting to play or what aspects of the games turns them off from liking it, but instead, they do that, and then also show some superiority to others by calling other people's taste shit because others happen to like the games they don't like. This includes people talking about which SRPG is more interesting. This site is supposed to be used for people over the age of 18, but their behavior is unlikely for an adult to behave. Is it too much to ask to just discuss why you don't think what the game does is interesting without shitting on other people for their supposed "poor taste" or "retardedness and normalfaggotry"? Unironic manchild behavior.
>>733105126you funnel all the levels into one cat instead of them being split so yeah
>go on run to get money>pick thief and get the money gathering skills (the ones that spawn cash on hit and collect all cash at end of battle)>find out you can only bring back 99 gold per runbullshit mechanics
>>733105797The point is it enables money costing skills to be spammed
>>733105889thieves suck although
>>733105547comparing bullet hells to a silly roguelite tactics cat game has to be one of the most autistic things i've seen on this board in ages.
>everyone raping the tripfagHol E Fuk. Is that the same autist bullied off /a/.
>>733106002Because you're choosing to do nothing with the extra resources they provideOr are choosing to make ultraglass cannons.
>>733101483>A close comparison would be Divinity Original Sinactually a really good comparison, glad you pointed it out, and now I wish mewgenics had co-op
>>733106002I like thieves. They're good for farming money, and the DOT / crit builds I've rolled have been solid.
>>733106002thieves literally carry my team every other time I use them
>>733106451>>733106440>>733106317Well I dunno I already have 600 gold with nothing to use it on so the thieves are getting to rest. Even on runs where I don't bring any I get close to 99 gold anyway.They need to roll good reposition skills to be able to deal any damage or else they just get ganged on and die since they have no defense besides movement. Also you need to rely on rng to get any of the money using abilities, and they aren't THAT great.So I think thieves suck
About to bring a collarless cat on my next adventure because apparently it unlocks shit.Should I use an everstone on it or just let it level, do you think?
>>733106853What shit does it unlock?
>>733106898New abilities like every other class when you beat an act with it
>>733106627>he can't into gigacrit buildlol shitter
>>733106853unless they were born with abnormally high CON so they don't get sniped it's probably better to let them level normally, some collarless builds can be very goodyou should probably take one whose default ability is the lob shot because it's way better than the line of sight or melee ones
>>733107067>gets mind controlled because thieves have no mind defenses>kills your whole teamyeah I don't think so chud
>>733106627>They have no defense besides movement.High cons should be thieves not lowcons.Also hitman is effectively free dps+aggro every turnSubwayride is on demand teleportationYou only need 10 coins per shop and winning the run is 50-200 gold just from moneybags
>>733107308>need high coni'd rather make a necromancer that can tank infinitely or a warrior that can do consistent damage and somehow crits on every attack by endgameOr even a regular tank with brace and thorns and just pushing mofos around does more damage than a thief + his gangster boyfriend
>if you capture a hyde, will remain beast mode in the following battlessweet
I hate the desert necromancer boss so much
>>733075059>4 niggas on a grid>Millenials treat this like it is a brand new invention because it has the shitty reddit humor they grew up with sprinkled in.
>>733108329Sneed
>lost the dice because the amoeba fucks dissolve equipmentOh fuck off
>>733107586Because again you arnt utilizing what makes thief work.If you arnt using coins pickup generation, or just rng items in general with thief you are playing a weaker fighter with only ranged skill spam.Of course just running the Amen squad is better, its simpler.
>>733108329that's not what 4 niggas in a row means at all you clueless idiot
>>733108329>zoomer retard dares to talk about humorgo back to your skibidi 6-7 garbage
>Tasty legs
Leg status? tastyNumber? 2Dreams? Crystalline
what are the breeding mechanics? how much % of a parent goes into a kitten?
>>733108752Decomposing rodent? Somewhere near the baby's bed
>>733087695>persona 4this dude literally started playing vidya with the ps4 and thinks he knows what an RPG is
I feel foolish
>>733075059>Have no idea what this is>YouTube the trailerI have actually zero ability to comment on media clearly made for 13 year olds
>>733108752Alien crater? Feline invaderAlone in the dark? Hole in my heartJumper cables? Right on my nuts and on my nipples歯?磨きました。
hes in
>>733109147t. plays GTA V roleplay
>>733109147wow ur soooo above this kiddy shit using 4channels videogame board lmao
Is this affected by dex or strength
>>733109147>youtube as a verbholy shit kill yourself niggerzoom
>>733109527pipe down unc
>>733109518if doesn't have an sword, should be dex i think.I reached Dybbuk with 2 friends, hope i can beat him!
>>733109518its damage is determined by both the ranged stat and also by any skills or buffs that raise magical damage
>>733108431cleric is another crap class only shitters use it & thief. Real pro gamers do it with warrior chads, ranger, mage plus whatever fill as a tank slut
Sharks just ate my whole squad...
>>733109980>want to appreciate hunter>game never gives me the fun toolsI don't think I've had good run with the class yet (10+ hours of play).
>>733109980you have to win with everyone anyway so who cares
>>733075059If this game didn't exist you could maybe say that but no, this is quite literally toddler's first SRPG
>ends the day>all my cats fight>0 kidsI am doing something wrong? Is there anything that give me a beter change of they fucking???
>>733110330eh I've gotten lots of stuff with it.Got a creature spamming one with +to creatures, some with the skill that hits another enemy in 3 tiles (pretty busted)a bramble spamming one that had the team sitting at spawn while the enemies killed themselves, one that had the upgraded 0 manacost "shoot here" for allies that got up to 20 range skill with the other ability that gives +1 range after every 3 killsThey're very good in the desert since their needle skill ignores shields so you can kill skeletons in one cast
>>733110547get +comfort furniture
>>733110547Furniture isn't for looks, get your comfort up.
I lost the friends device because Dybukk killed the cat with it :(
>put ranger collar on a cat, has 10 dex after>basic attack does 6 damagehow does the scaling work, maybe it's (half of dex)+1?
New to the gameGive me the "you shouldnt miss this shit" stuff and general tips
>>733105547Its hard to take posts like yours seriously when these threads are all predicated on a strawmen. Really conjures up the image of a jew twisting a knife in my back.
THE GREAT DEBATEWHICH BOSS HAS THE BESS MUSIC????
>>733110760All the attacks have different damage formulas.Basic ranged attack is probably Dex/2)+1, while the cross-hit variant of it from rotten meat is more like Dex/4)+1.
>act 1waitTHERE ARE ACTS??when does the first one ends???
>>733109319Where's the mogus?
>>733110849PebblesWish we got a rematch with him
>>733110920If you've done Guillotina 3, there's nothing left to do in Act 1 at the moment but side quest items.
>bunker hard path>devil statue reduces all my party members to 1 hp>enemies wipe out half of my party before I can make my first movefuck you steakmundI will abuse steven not working on steam deck and I will never chew slowly
>>733110920act 2 is desert>>733111226skill issue to be quite honested
>>733110432>toddler's first SRPGPost your Lunatic+ clear.
the fuck is an s rpg
>>733110547if you have too many cats overcrowding will cause them to fight until there isn't too many cats anymore, distribute them between rooms
>>733111398Formerly Chuck's
>>733075059>decide to do a coin farm>get god tier synergy with skills>try do side missions>get fucked with skillsevery time.
pitch the act 4 dlc
>>733100460>Pick one of 4 random skills>Wow there is infinite choicesIt is so easy to entertain retards with this one trick
why has this game had the most retarded bait getting posted in every thread about it since day 1does not feel even remotely organic
>>733106002Thieves really do suck. They are extremely reliant on a bunch of stats and actually getting good skills. You're better off having a tank or fighter.
>What's your name?>I have no name>Ok...
>>733075059The game looks like it was made for low IQ kids who hate good aesthetics
does the game quicksave?
>>733112274all /v/ cares about is baiting comes with every new release im surprised we havent got more faggots telling us to go to /vg/
so uhhhh what happens if you quit a run several times
>>733112839Steven will put your cats under AI control for the rest of the run
>>733112839if you are curious just try it out with a disposable stray team or somethingyou get various penalties/debuffs to your cats until eventually steven starts playing the game himself and makes you the little brother with the unplugged controller
>>733098662Making her immobile also stops her from leaving the screen I found.
>>733113064>>733113096there should be an achievement for winning with that
>>733110420maybe so but the thieves aren't getting invited to the afterparty
>>733112386meow that's right
shame there's no gambler class
>>733110849Gotta be Flush for me.SWRILED ROUND A BOWLSHOT THROUGH A HOLEPUSHED THROUGH A POLEYOU'RE JUST A NUMBER, AND NUMBER 2 IS YOUR NAME
>>733113684there's at least a few gambling abilities i've seen so fardefinitely could have put them all in a gambler guy, maybe in the dlc
>>733110330I don't think I've ever had a hunter who wasn't a fucking monster.My last one got a spell that gave every other cat the ability to call in a base attack from the hunter at melee range for free once (lasts until the hunter's next turn and the bonus ability can only be cast once per turn so I don't think you could stack it). It cost like 7 mana and his attack was a 100% accurate bramble creating +25%crit NVKE. If I'm explaining it badly - Hunter casts skill - next cat has an ability with one range that prompts the hunter to attack that spot- both other cats also have this ability and can each use it.I'm hoping he breeds that attack onto something else, I wanna see how a fighter or something uses it.
>>733114068only kinda related but i'm curious if tower defense works on melee guys if you breed it, would be great on a tank (like the blackjack item).
>>733112274There's a lot of miserable fucks on this website who only post here to try to ruin shit for other people. They probably think that they're being ebin intellectual contrarians who are immune to normalfag trends, but they're generally just run-of-the-mill depressed ADHD-brains.
>>733114214doubtful, and even if it did it does 1 damage and probably doesn't knockback
>>733114068the fighter will just throw a low damage ranged attack. anon pls use your brain.
>if one shark enemy has bleeding, the other sharks attack him... as they are bloodthistyDUDE
Best class for this lil nigga?I'm thinkin Necroman
>>733101026Mewgenics is the e33 of 2026 in that it takes a JRPG subgenre and fixes it. FFT was fine for its time but the gameplay is poorly balanced, and SE could've made a real FFT2 with gameplay as complex as Mewgenics but decided it was a dead genre.
>>733114660fighter, the goated class
>>733114883e33 is soulless however
>>733115549Oh brother we are goating.I actually can't decide. I'm running a cleric so We Are One can turn him into a punching bag and the Cleric can unpunch him.But I think MADNESS has to take it. Less can go wrong hopefully.ACTUALLY SCRATCH THAT I can probably hose off the debuff lmao we're soul linking.
