>the most mediocre SRPG of all time>Millenials treat this like it is a brand new invention because it has the shitty reddit humor they grew up with sprinkled in.
rogueslop + established genre + sub culture seems to be the way to go for indies
>>733128810name 3 good SRPG's
>>733129078don't forget the creator engaging with xitter culture warrior so /v/ can lose their shit over how "based" he is when he could be, you know, working on his game
>>733129165Front missionNatural doctrineLuminous arc
>>733129165Makai Kingdom, Yggdra Union, Knights in the Nightmare
>>733128810Untertroon effect
>>733128810This. Mewgenics is just bloated, but retards here love to confuse that with complexity
This game is like SRPGs without the time wasting bullshit. Just pure gameplay.
>>733129078 Yeah, it's the same indie formula every time. Slap on some roguelite mechanics, make it look like a lost Newgrounds project, toss in genre buzzwords like "tactical" or "deckbuilder", then add enough references to appeal to millennial nostalgia. Bonus points if the dev acts like a professional victim online, so journos can run sympathy PR cycles for free.
>>733129565Nah man I like Mew but it's full of autistic grinding, that is not pure gameplay.
>>733128810Oh good do you have a new game to seethe about looney troon? I was hoping you wouldn't run out of steam!
>>733129675Grinding is gameplay. There's no boring story sequences, constant menuing to equip characters, wasting time waiting for turns to end or for the last enemy to just die already. If a fight even goes above 10 rounds you're actively punished.
>>733129675>throw 4 cats in a box>have an adventure>repeatWhere's the autistic grinding?
Edmund isn’t Reddit. He’s 4chan.
>>733128810>Is that people having fun with a normal video game?>I WON'T STAND FOR THIS!Why is like this all the time
>>733129451Mewgenics is both bloated and complex though.
>Good game is actually...le bad!!!
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplayholy fucking underage
>>733129265>>733129291and now name 3 that arent 100 years old and/or people have actually played
>>733130071people have played all of these, they're all fairly well known within the strategy RPG community, zoom zoom
>>733129675I think the grinding is self imposed. I have 39 hours and haven't even entered the Desert, whereas some people already beat the entire game in just 3 days. I wonder how they did that?
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplayAnon...
>>733129265>>733129291don't expect nu-/v/ to actually play any games. They just pretend to play whatever their favorite e-celeb is currently playing
>>733129860>g-guys he's literally /ourguy/, he dressed up as a lolcow!!!!fuck off back to the farms, subhuman. You don't actually like playing vidya
>>733129875bad games getting popular should bother you
>>733129813holy bugman
>>733129813>There's no boring story sequencesI will now play your game.>, constant menuing to equip characters, wasting time waiting for turns to end or for the last enemy to just die already. If a fight even goes above 10 rounds you're actively punished.I already said I'll play it, anon.
>>733129903You know what else is bloated and complex? A fat fucking retard, one of which made this shitty game.
>>733130901just play any roguelike, anon
This is why I’m afraid of talking about games.
>>733130940
>>733128810I actually really want to play some good SRPGs now. Please give me some suggestions.Hard mode: no FFT or sequels.
The only people who don't like Mewgenics are poorfags and retards who can't pirate. It is easily one of my favorite games of all time
>>733131064Because retards actually think bg3's gameplay is inferior to bg1 and 2?
>>733131185>It is easily one of my favorite games of all timeNo it isn't, stop exaggerating
>>733131185>It is easily one of my favorite games of all timet. doesn't play SRPGs
>>733129568Name three games that were like that
>>733131207>>733131220I've played every popular strategy game and this is by far my favorite
>>733129265>Natural doctrineIs this worth checking out? I only hear how absolutely ball breaking it is.
>>733128810What the fuck is an SRPG
>>733129860I can't imagine anything more cringe than tracking and caring about what these lolcow losers do online. Like at a certain point you've got to ask yourself wtf you're doing, no?
>>733131064What's AoTD supposed to be?
>>733131171fe engage
>>733131338name them
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplay./v/ in 2010+16 everyone! We love grinding guys!!!
>>733131639Grinding has been a core aspect of gaming since the 80's.
>>733130064>>733130170>>733131639Where do you think we are?
>>733131695Nobody ever liked grinding, even in classic DRPGs
>>733131416>growtent >€ >stupid assUnappealing Faggot: The post
>>733131451newfaggot
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplayGachas and MMOs destroyed a generation. Grinding is not gameplay, busywork is not gameplay, just please, fuck off back to your containment board >>>/vmg/
>>733128810>>Millenials treat this like it is a brand new invention because it has the shitty reddit humor they grew up with sprinkled in.Yes.We've had long enough with Whedon dialogue written for faggots who watched Firefly, now we can have dialogue written by faggots who watched Blockhead and Tankmen, and played Pico vs Bear in the Big Blue House.
>>733131803disgaeaCHAD
>>733132138Your only frame of reference for grinding shows your inexperience.
>>733132138When did you all become so weak?
>>733129813Everyone crying about this is too young to remember random encounters.
>>733128810OP is a faggot
>>733131459>Like at a certain point you've got to ask yourself wtf you're doingI'm earning 800 a week from 15 hours of work is what I'm doing.
>>733132205Try me, faggot. Grinding is anti-fun, anti-gameplay no matter how much you attempt to pretend it's a necessity for RPGs. In fact, this only demonstrates your shit fucking taste>>733132284SaGa did away with those as far back as early 1992. You've just been lobotomized by shit gameplay
>>733128810how do you know this precisely? you don't, faggot
>>733132284>guys I'm le patrician veteran gamer cause I emulated 3 SNES FF and DQ gameskek. Not to mention, random encounters are still very commonplace in JRPGs and the classic dungeon crawlers didn't even have those, just encounter squares
>>733129813>>>/vp/back to your containment boardlet those of us without mental abuse scars speak in peace
>>733129813This might be the worst post I've read on this shithole of a board in years.
>people calling each other newfags or SRPG newfags>All fail to spot the oldest /v/ disgaea meme.This board finds new ways to disappoint me
>>733132801Take your medicine, grandpa
>>733132801This city, she's been dead for years now
>>733132853I don't want you to disappear
>U-Umm Grinding is le good actually!the state of nu-/v/
>>733129568>every timedo these not count?Cruelty SquadEn Garde!FilcherFrogunGanaBladeHotline MiamiKatana ZeroLunacidNox Archaisti could go on but you see my point
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplayAnon, I mean this genuinely, please leave this board. You are a cancer destroying /v/.
>>733128810Autistic longpost poser oldfag anime poster, is this your thread again?
>>733133070>Autistic longpost poser oldfag anime posterthis is just every other faggot here though
>>733128810>E33 BTFO'd jarpigslops and made the genre its bitch>Weebtrannies crawled out of the woodwork to shitpost it>Mewgenics BTFO'd tactics jarpigslops and made the genre its bitch>Weebtrannies crawled out of the woodwork to shitpost it
>>733133164Mewgenics is just a shit game, this is not an East vs. West thing lol
Reminder that Millenials are going to be the most intelligent generation to ever live after the elites master how to keep the peasants retarded. It’s already starting with Zoomers.
>>733132959>>733133053You have been raped by time-wasting monetization boxes and have forgotten what it's like for a game to actually make you work for something.
>>733133195It's funny seeing weebtrannies namedropping babbyslops like Disgaea and FFT when western tactical turn-based goodness like Old/Nu-Com and JA blow them the fuck outta water when it comes to gameplay depth and mechanics.
>>733133053Underage b&
>>733128810Get help, man.
>>733133246No, I just play RPGs that respect my time and intelligence.
>>733133290and KitN btfo's Jagged Alliance or any westoid SRPG for that matter so what's your point?
>>733133351Such as?
>>733132373Cunt the original point is that it's ALL gameplay.Grinding is gameplay.Whether or not it shit gameplay is besides the point.It's still gameplay.
>>733133351Why so impatient? You have some dailies to do? Gotta check your DMs? Too busy to play video games?
>>733133425Busywork and grinding isn't gameplay. Autobattling isn't gameplay.
>>733133392>flopped and forgotten babby's first strategy game>BTFO anythingI can tell DS was your first gaming platform, dumb retarded zoomoid>>733131350Don't bother
>>733133425>t. thinks leaving his PC on over the night to farm for gold in WoW is the same as playing the gameyou zoomers never cease to amaze me
>>733133464There's no autobattling in Mewgenics.
>>733133494>no argument
>>733133462whoops, meant for >>733133425
>>733133494>metashitic>>733133464>>733133514Why the fuck is a TRPG thread filled with people who hear "grinding" and think of MMOshit and mobageshitWho are you people, what are you doing here. Are you lost? Have you not played an actual RPG before?
>>733133610Grinding is not gameplay
>>733133598Kill yourself retarded schizo>>733133638>playing the game isn't gameplayHow about you get a hobby you actually like
>>733133638It's literally gameplay. It's you grinding mobs for XP levels and gold.You don't just get that stuff you have to play the game for it.
>>733129568I just think Slay The Spire is a good game anon. No need to be so mean about it.
>>733128810Basically, yeah.>oh my Science... did that heckin cat just POOP a fetus?! Yes! This is everything.
>>733133392>no cover>no elevation>no destructible environment>no line of sight>no effective range>no flanking>no perks/traitsJapanese SRPGs / tactics are barely vidyas.
>>733133404NTA but that depends on the subgenre, there's many different kinds of turn based combat out there so choosing just one game doesn't really make sense.When it comes to the west, I still like classic wizardry combat a lot, so W1 to W5, I also like some other Sirtech stuff like Jagged Alliance 2, as for more recent games I like Qud's combat quite a bit, more than many other roguelikes since you can get pretty creative with it, Underrail's also pretty decent, Bastard Bonds is also fun before you discover how horribly broken it is, but it's still pretty elegant in its simplicity despite its many balance problems, shame nobody will ever elaborate on that.When it comes to the east Unlimited SaGa and Minstrel Song are probably my tops when it comes to regular RPGs, then there's Wizardry Empires/Elminage, Etrian and a couple of other minor titles like Grand Knights History, outside of these there's things like Makai Kingdom, ZHP or Natural Doctrine which I still enjoyed very much but are different subgenres altogether, so they do different things and have different issues.
>>733129903You have to move the ball from A to B.>This is a simple problemTo move ball A to B you have to do a 360 backflip off a diving board, this moves it one step, then you have to recite the entirety of War Games without missing a single line, this moves the ball a step closer, then you have to give this game an upvote on Steam, this completes the movement of the ball to B.Mewgen presents simple problems with obtuse ways to solve them. I know the solution within a minute, I have to spend five minutes playing out this obvious solution.The game is simple with bloat.
>>733133856You just click attack on the tile you fucking retard
Can someone who isn't schizo please tell me why this game is being used by agenda posting retards?Is it still people mad at Issac or something? Do they not know Edmund's games have been a part of /v/ since his fucking flash era days?
>>733132963Doesn't your point only work if you don't name good games?Apparently slapping on roguelite mechanics onto genre buzzwords like "tactical" can make spectacular games.
>>733133914Yes anon I understand that I knew the solution and how the battle would play out five minutes before I was allowed to punch in the solve.It's why Into The Breach does this exact same gameplay better, it actually has a dynamic board state rather then a solved solution from move 1.
>>733133856That's a pretty long post to say you didn't play the game.
>>733133138No no, I think it is the same faggot(s) itt from previous bait thread, just without anime pics. Similar west vs east trpg examples and arguing. It's not complex, has no actual gameplay, only stupid people enjoy it, etc"Hardcore" rpg gaymers seems to take it personally that Mewgenics is popular and their autistic anime game from 30 years ago isn't.
>>733133807This is just a wishlist of XCOM-like affordances, then the conclusion no checklist items = no tactics. But I didn't expect anything else from a warpig drone like you, not to mention, all of your points are just flat out wrong>no elevationDuelists can jump up to higher elevation during Chaos attacks (w/ explicit elevation values), Lance Knights are blocked by elevation, and height differences are treated as a map obstacle you must plan around>no destructible environmentKitN has breakable objects with item yields (obstacles, containers like chests, destructible tiles like bridges, and even cannons). Warriors have charged skill attacks that can completely destroy objects, and destroying certain tiles can permanently change traversal for units on that map>no effective rangeUnits have different attack shapes, directions, and reach. Archers are described as back attackers with long reach who cannot hit what is directly in front of them, and classes have concrete attack-area diagrams that differ by class (Duelist vs Lance Knight vs Archer, etc)>no flankingThe game categorizes classes by attack orientation (front attacker vs back attacker), and archers are explicitly framed as being placed behind enemies to attack from the rear. Whether you want to call that flanking is semantics, but positioning rel to enemy facing and attack direction matters>no perks/traitsClasses have unique specials (movement-only-while-attacking for certain classes, object destruction for Warriors, stun/status via Law skills for certain classes, Gram traps from Priestess/Wizard skills, etc). It also has an explicit long-term customization layer in recruited knights whose souls can be fused/harvested to improve your options>no cover / no line of sightKitN’s pos defense is about routing enemies through the matrix objective, using enemy selection to choose the battlefield you can solve, manage phase legality, and not bleed your time resource by getting hit while charging attacks
>>733134095fuck off retard
>>733134168>Ad hominem
>>733134045>>733134203You actually think you're saying something intelligent with this retardbabble, don't you
>>733134234Retard
>>733133914Where bloat comes in is that Mewgenics has an enormous amount of content, but the game does not always translate that content into sharper choices. With both the size of the pools (roughly 70 skills per class, only one pick per level from four offers) and how limited rerolling is, you can end up spending a lot of time piloting a run where the build is already functionally bricked by offerings you could not meaningfully steer. That is not strategic depth in the sense of "many viable lines you can reason your way into"; it can feel like being forced to go through motions waiting for the game to either cooperate or end you, so no, that anon is completely right
>>733134168Buddy, when your post relies on sophistry, hyperbole and oversimplification to criticize a game instead of actually addressing the problems of the game, you don't get to call anyone else a retard.
>>733134234No I thought I was talking to another anon about their opinions on a SRPG the Sunday before a day off.Why are you acting such a cunt?
>>733134310nta but Mewgenics is just obtuse, not hard. item sets and set bonuses exist but the game does not tell you which items belong to sets, so players may only discover them by accident hours later. when the game hides key classification info in a loot system with hundreds of items, what looks like complexityto retards like you is really just the game being obtuse. you are not solving a tactical puzzle so much as doing unpaid cataloguing while the run continues. and once youre done cataloguing, the game is easy as shit
Mewgenics feels like the laziest kind of rogueoid design dressed up as depth: inflate the content pool into the hundreds, crank the RNG, and let the reset-every-run structure do the balancing for you because players will rarely see the truly broken stuff often enough to demand fixes. The result is bloat masquerading as complexity, where many choices blur into "good enough", the run outcome is frequently decided by what the game happens to offer rather than what you deliberately engineered, and the game banks on intermittent jackpot moments to manufacture a sense of mastery. When the stars align and you high-roll a ridiculous combo, you feel like a genius and the game looks brilliant; when they do not, you are just going through motions in a long, cluttered checklist of items and traits waiting for the slot machine to pay out.
>>733134294t. I never played the game
>>733134294If you don't think a run is viable or fun to take to the endgame you don't have to waste your time doing that, just take the offramp at the end of an earlier zone and try again"I can't infinitely reroll into playing the optimal build I want every time" is also weak criticism, if you're not ready to take what the game gives you this just isn't for you
>>733133981Most current outrage posters and baiters on the board are underage. Mewgenics looks like a silly poop cartoon game for babies, they are mad it's popular. Flinging politics is the only thing they know, so they are desperately trying to find scraps of it in the game to be mad about.Edmund being popular with oldfags make them seethe even more.
>>733134394If you can't play a game without a wiki on your other monitor you'll just have to suck it up or wait for other people to do that work for you, you pampered little baby
>>733134394Items sets aren't exactly a gamechanging mechanics. They are nice bonuses but they won't carry you if you don't understand the rest of the game. At the same time items in the same set tend to share a theme so it's not like it's a completely random system dropped on your lap where you have to try combinations of every single item in the game to get the right answers.
>>733132801I grew up with PC, the home of strategy and tactical games. I honestly couldn't' give a fuck about tranime kusoge on consoles.
>>733134563>Flinging politics is the only thing they knowNobody ITT is talking about politics though?
>>733133987oh my point was that many indie games DONT fall into those trappings. sorry, i worded it a bit stupidly.
>>733129165Disgaea
>>733128810I just don't find it satisfying to play. It doesn't make me want to play another run.
>>733134486First, the offramp is not a free reset button. You cannot abandon a run midway without killing your active party; the "go home" option only appears after you beat the main boss in each zone. That means "if the run isn’t viable, just leave" still requires you to push through an entire zone to reach a safe exit, which is exactly the kind of sunk-time problem people are complaining about in the first place.>don’t waste your time taking it to endgamethat handwaves away the fact that runs are long enough that "just restart LOOL" is not a minor suggestion. Runs can take like 3 hours anonThird, you reframes the criticism into a weaker strawman. Most people are not asking to "infinitely reroll into the optimal build I want every time" The real complaint is about agency and dead runs: when the game's own structure can hand you a character you bred carefully and then repeatedly offer you unhelpful level-up choices with limited mitigation. GameSpot specifically flags this as a flaw: each class has a skill pool of roughly 70 skills, you get four offers per level-up, you can pick only one,Finally, >take what the game gives you or it isn’t for youthis is just defending shit design, hate to say it. Even shills in previous threads admitted that Mew can cross the line into chaos where the game "happens to you" and player control gets undermined If a system produces enough low-control situations that the recommended solution is "just take the exit and reroll the entire run bro" that is an admission that the game expects players to self-abort runs to manage variance.
>>733129813>Guys grinding is actually le good!!!>Guys RNGfests are actually le good!!this has got to be the most blatant shilling campaing I've seen in a while
>>733134972It also turns the "branching" path into a false choice. You always take the harder route because it gives you a better rewards pool and if your team can't clear the hard route then you probably are not going very far anyway.
>>733129813i actually like grinding though, it's relaxing and fun to met. 63 year old zoomier according to /v/
>>733134972>Runs can take like 3 hours anonHuuu, each zone is only 5 or 6 fights. Are you seriously trying to say each fight take 10 minutes?>The real complaint is about agency and dead runs: when the game's own structure can hand you a character you bred carefully and then repeatedly offer you unhelpful level-up choices with limited mitigation.Welcome to roguelites, I guess. The point of this kind of game isn't to get great runs everytime but to make runs work with what you are given.
>>733134972>That means "if the run isn’t viable, just leave" still requires you to push through an entire zone to reach a safe exit,You chose the cats you left with and if you're going to tell me getting to the first boss is such an ordeal you can't do it with your basic classes or that you already think the average run isn't viable before the first zone is even over, I'm once again going to call you a fucking babyI'm sorry that Isaac spoiled you with breaking the game over your knee every single run but this one has a little more friction that you're going to have to deal with (until the DLC comes out lol), or you can just quit since you obviously don't like games where you can lose, I don't care
>>733135143RNGfests can be good if you can use your strategies to make fights more consistent. I never played Mewgenics though, so IDK if you can skill your way out of bad RNG. I'm just following through this thread to gauge whether or not the game is worth playing. My current stance is "Not playing it"
>>733135259>Welcome to roguelitesI've played plenty of roguelikes and the variance usually isn't that extreme, especially in ones with genuine depth
Godamn I'm glad I'm not a miserable zoomer who hates video games. I remember the last FOTM you overdramatic fags cried about statutory rape because a woman kissed a man she'd been mutually flirting with all game.
>>733135285 The criticism is that when a run becomes clearly doomed or unfun, the game often makes you pay a time toll to cash out, because the safe exit is gated behind clearing a zone boss. It's got nothing to do with getting filtered or the game being difficult anon. There's a reason why nobody in roguelike threads or generals is posting about this slop
>>733135420If it repels generalfags it must be good
YOU DO THE 9 TO 5 AND 5 TO 9 AGAAAIIIIIN
>>733135309nta but from my experience, you sometimes can skill your way out of trash RNG but it's rarely fun or requires much original thought
>>733135249no, you're just spiritually a zoomer. Nobody with a brain likes grinding
>>733135469>RLfags disliking Mew is actually a good thing brokek
>>733128810>filtered kiddies won't get to feel the crack hit of making it through a difficult area and hearing the boss vocals kick in
>>733135324>and the variance usually isn't that extremeAre you for real? I dunno what roguelites you've played before the ones I know all have similar amount of randomness. Hell, most real roguelikes have classic rpg random loot ,where you can find gear your character can't even use, would put a game like mewgenics to shame when it comes to variance.
>>733129165Into the BreachTriangle StrategyXCOM
>>733135625filtered by what retard? shit design?
>>733129843getting a cat with every mutation on itthat's about it
>>733135324I've lost a single run in 40 hours and it was after unlocking the Throbbing Domain, so being down a memberThere's multiple higher difficulties than the stuff you're doing in the beginning, but the first act is really easy even with shitty cats, with good cats you can do multiple sidequests at once
>>733129843>>throw 4 cats in a box>>have an adventure>>repeatpeople really enjoy this shit? This is like a Skinner-Box for millenial normalfags
>>733135787you guys really love to use terms you have no idea the meaning of huh
>>733135629Zoomers have only played Isaac and Hades, they don't know what it's like to play a game that will kick you in the dick and spit on you while you're downWait to see someone crying about their cat getting killed in a random event like the game doesn't immediately give you a new one that even comes with a free item to prevent it being an EXP leech
>>733133164The Americans' 'open-mindedness', which is sometimes cited in their favor, is the other side of their interior formlessness. The same goes for their 'individualism'. Individualism and personality are not the same: the one belongs to the formless world of quantity, the other to the world of quality and hierarchy. The Americans are the living refutation of the Cartesian axiom, "I think, therefore I am": Americans do not think, yet they are. The American 'mind', puerile and primitive, lacks characteristic form and is therefore open to every kind of standardization.
fuck it I caved and fought herif she shows up again edmund you made a shit of piece
>>733135912Name your top 10 roguelikes
>>733133981Unironically weebs.
>>733136041out of all the rpgs to choose to say is a better game to play they pick person 5
>>733136041people love comparing games that aren't even similar
>>733131350Yes, but let me warn you, Natural Doctrine is unironically the most unforgiving game I have ever played. The game literally does not give you a second's rest, and even on Easy difficulty, enemies WILL focus-fire your units if they think they can kill one, and it's not uncommon to be put into a position where enemies will just be hidden behind a wall and jump you, fucking your entire group up because you weren't in adequate formation to limit enemy options, and these ambushes can literally be 10-12+ units with ranged units, magic units, and melee units in all directions.>>733133494>posting metacritic in 2026the low score is because reviewers are limp-wristed cuckolds who will give games that filter them a bad score, but also this game is legitimately ruthless and will literally warp your view of SRPGs when you finally beat the main story. It deserves an appropriate review and judgement, but it wasn't made to be accessible to the masses in any capacity.Give me a critique that actually engages with the systems beyond crying over it being hard
>>733136041>xitter post>>733136102>>733136114>caring about a xitter post
>>733128810cult of the lamb all over again
>>733136154as if you faggots here don't do the same shitCan't count the number of times people here having compared two games not even in the same genre, fuck off retard
>>733136207nice projection, retard. I have never resposted a xitter post to /v/, let alone tried to derail a thread with one. I actually care about discussing vidya
>>733136207How come you don't post a 4chan screenshot then, if you can't even count the number of times people do the same shit here?
>>733136261You're posting in a thread designed to be screencapped for twitter bait engagement. Read the room bucko
>>733136332I don't use xitter... How about you just fuck off back there?
>>733131526Maybe he meant Age of Decadence?
>>733136384>I don't use twitter but let me seethe about it!You're not very smart are you.
>>733136448Hey retard, I just want you xitter-addicted zoom-zooms to leave this website. Is that too much to ask? If you can't acclimate and discuss vidya, then you have no place here
>>733136508Cool projection. Really showing me wrong here.
>>733129165It is very rare in this genre that a game has enough depth to offset how tedious and slow they necessarily are. You basically have to streamline it so much it stops being a SRPG and turns into a JRPG where the character can move in a radius before actingAlso I've always called these games TRPGs, when did we start calling them SRPGs? Fucks sake it's hard to keep up
>>733133531There is if you let Steven handle things
Lmao, why do people get butthurt when a game that does things better than [insert their favourite game] comes out. Instead of being happy that someone is showing everyone else how to potentially fix shortfalls of a genre, and just enjoying more of a genre you like, they go on little baby tantrums online. >Oh no, I have more of the genre I like to play, how horrible.
>>733136520You are the one posting the same xitter screenshot in every Mew thread to derail it, anon
>>733136797See you've done it again, I haven't posted a single screencap this entrie thread
>>733129451What part of it is bloated? Generally I would see this used for games that have too many systems, that have minimal or no impact. Don't see any of that in mewgenics.
>>733136812see >>733136041
>>733131196bg3's gameplay is inferior to divinity
>>733129165Vandal Hearts, Ogre Battle 64, and Tactics Ogre. Pic related was surprisingly fun too.
>>733128810I LOVE MEWGENICS!I think I will open it on my Steam Deck again. Good gravy, I hope I make it far enough to hear another banger OST from the GOTY of 2026!
>>733136923Forgot Pic.
>>733136896and Divinity is brainless trash to what's your point
>>733136845>projecting
>>733137575you okay, anon?
>>733129813>Grinding is gameplay./v/ never fails to make me laugh
>beat the throbbing gristle boss>bleed out as his mob of enemies are fleeing >still lose the fightFuck this
>>733128810I love how faggots are going to seethe about this game for forever. It really is delightful. I am 30 hours in, still enjoying it, Cry about it homos, scream Reddit until you're Redd in your face; the game is well received, it isn't mechanically complex or anything, it is enjoyable for what it is and 30 bucks is a fair price, bitch about grinding all you want, ultimately the pacing is decent and the gameplay is fun. Later fags
>>733136956>discount XCOMI'm glad the sequel flopped and killed the franchise.
I'm so glad this game is broken into Acts. Imagine if you had to fight Dybbuk and you had to deal with the forced cat possession and subsequent injury every run to progress.
>moon boss eats your cat if you walk to the very middle square of his mouth>no way to save it except struggle roll (25%)>just insta deletes the cat if it dies in mouthepic xddd
WELL WHAT CAN I SAY I'M JUST A HOMELESS KITTYLOOKIN FOR FOOD AND A SCRAP OF PITYNOBODY WANTS ME HANGIN ROUND THEIR DOOR
>fucking grinding man... why am I forced to play video games, I just want to see cool explosions for 2/3 hours a day and go to sleepnormalnigs are the majority here now, huh?
>install always 99 reroll dice mod>game becomes infinitely betterMods will fix it like always
>>733128810Currently stuck at the sidequest to bring the meaty cube I got from the fat fucking cat to the caves. The fucking blob boss, Boris. He's not hard, but the debuff of perma death the moment a cat gets knocked is fucking pisses the fuck out of me.
>>733138035>grinding>goodL M A OMAO
I doubt this has the staying power of Isaac but it's still good stuff.
>>733129165XCOMReverse CollapseInto the Breach
>>733138170thanks for your amazing input, redditor
This game is ALREADY flopping, dying and losing more than half of it's peak players. And it's ONLY going to keep getting lower. This shit will not even be able to keep a stable 30k after a week and not even 10k after a month. Screencap this post.Steakmund trannies BTFOD, KWAB
>>733138214>you don't like grinding? you must be... LE REDDIT!!!
>733138218Kill chartfags. Behead chartfags.
>>733133981I thought it had something to do with Chris-chan. That's all I've heard.
>>733138186Isaac wouldn't have the staying power of Isaac if it released today
>>733129194after 12 years in development, during that with afterbirth DLC introducing pride day event shit in binding of issac, mentally ill lgbt pride shit has corrupted his mind unfortunately a game about cats need to have pride flag.
>look up mewgenics ost on youtube>first video spoils ending boss on thumbnailfuck. you
>>733138238whats your favourite game?
>>733138218Do you understand what flopping means? It's not a multiplayer game. It's entirely sales and that's it. Even if everyone stopped playing tomorrow, that doesn't indicate flop or not
>>733138218game recouped its budget in 3 hours, how is that a flop?
>>733138421whatever, i've boughted OST on steam, quality is higher too>54 trackshot damn
>>733138724this is outrageous!I'm outraged!!wtfff
>>733138421This shit makes me so mad. It's literally been a problem with every recent video game release ever. I swear these faggots do it on purpose for engagement too, some dimwits will tell that guy to kill himself in the comments and that'll boost the visibility of the video since more comments = more recommendations. I just report them over random shit and hope others do the same, youtube could really use some sort of feature/guideline to avoid thumbnail spoilers but they'd rather rework their UI for the 20th time I guess
>>733137992i had a retarded Mini-me go straight into the mouth, i just punched him down to death.Also, absolute bangerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGJpUitB_mM
>>733136547I have this problem with every game in the genre. It takes ages to move units, the UI is always chonky as fuck leading to slow play, animations take forever and there's just never enough depth.
>>733128810I've finally beaten her!! I'm so happy right neowthe powerful synergy of the moves gives me a dophamine rush. This game is so fun!!!
>>733138602that's crazy, i feel like i've only heard a handful and i'm in act 2.
This game uses ai art?
This was chaotic Jesus Christ.
>>733139034always has, seethe about it, AI is here to stay
>>73313860252?!?!
so many salty losers lol, git gud
>>733139071Ai is problematic and anti what made new grounds good
>>733139034Of course not. Don't get baited
If there's one thing this game lacks it's some decent fucking QOL. Give me ways to look at all my cats through some sort of list instead of having to make them out inside the clusterfuck of 30 cats inside my living room. Give me way to filter and reorder items easily, give me keyboard shutcuts, give me the option of fast forwarding turn animations. The game is fun it, I like the flash visuals but steakmund did not have to copy flash clunkiness as well
>>733136547>Also I've always called these games TRPGs, when did we start calling them SRPGs? Fucks sake it's hard to keep upTRPG if the game is Western, SRPG if Japanese. Yes, it's retarded.
>>733139135Literally all of that is in the game retard
>>733129813Zoomers outing themselves out of their forever fucked attention span over their retarded niggery on tiktok and the like gave me a hearty chuckle, can't wait for one of those with a steel scourer for hair screencap your post and say ir was epic for the win over how many (You)s you've gotten. Their dopamine system is completely and utterly fucked.
Is there an option to add a middle aged balding guy to commentate over my gameplay? That's the only way I can enjoy games.
>>733139172Is it zoomer or weeb thing?
>the most common negative feedback is the lack of QoL for breedingFucking casuals don't realize how just 6 base stats and one net positive mutation make the whole game piss easy. Kittens inherit abilities which is insanely OP. The eugenics is not the point of the game, just cross breed everything.
>>733139182No? Did you even play it or do I have to give away 50 cats before I can unlock something as simple as a list of all my cats
>>733139338Breeding seems fine though. You don't get uber kittens straight away but that's the point, you slowly build up your breeding stock over many generations until you have full 7s freaks with so many mutations they barely resemble cats anymore
>>733139034I looked up the artists twitter and it just seems like a furry artist, one of the images is a cat with its ass facing the camera with just its pussy taped over with a bandaid
>>733138186Nothing has staying power today unless it's an industry sweetheart. Those days are just over. Shit look at Deltarune; sure it's still technically a big deal but it's not causing the particular shockwaves Undertale did.
>>733139435I'm glad AI is making these people unemployed
>>733138602>>733138975>>73313908430 songs with vocals, average 3:40 lengthonly a couple of instrumental tracks are under 2 min.They've been making music whole 12 years it seems.
>>733131064>WOTR>RTare these supposed to be examples of top tier rpgs
>does nothing except sets your cats on fire
>>733139607tinkerer is giga OP with a mage. Making a million robots that fill every class role and giving people shitloads of stats is fantastic. They're just not a very good turn 1 class since they tend to have quite a bit of setup, kind of like a necromancer.
>>733139607>gets hit>explodes and damages your cat+sets them on fire>+1 explosive size and damage>now does more damage and explodes/sets your cats on fire>oh and you can give a glass shard to a robot :)
>>733128810Millennials are no different from facebook boomers, just ignore them and wait their toxoplasmosis makes them choke to death
>>733139647Sounds like you had 0 tech all the time. My tinkerer makes rocket launchers and smgs constantly with 3 tech.
>>733139690>sounds like you had shit RNG and got the useless explosive shit and the craft a weapon shit but for 4 manayea
>>733128810I haven't played the game so idk if it's actually good or not, but it's got an utterly repulsive artstyle that instantly killed any interest I might have had.
>>733139651It's funny the whole boomer vs millennial divide was because of housing and the introduction of the internet which caused a gap between the two. It's cute seeing zoomers try to do the same thing against millennials when the only thing that sets them apart is growing up with different internet jokes.
>>733139651what's the toxophimosis thing?
>>733139607I've had a tinkerer that both had electric nails + do nothing and armor repair + rocket boots alongside the leather armor setI could throw a couple nails and spam do nothing for very easy and safe damage, or repeatedly rocket boost into enemies which only dealt one single armor damage to me that I could easily repair. Tinkerer is pretty darn good
>>733139719the craft a weapon spell is one of the best ones anon. It lets you craft multiple weapons per turn. Yeah obviously any class is shit if you get terrible rng, but you're supposed to be mitigating that.
>>733139607Just ran my first one, he was shitting out healbots and crafting the massive AoE logs and rocket launchers every fight. Seems giga cracked
>>733139765> toxophimosis
>>733138724>>733138803>guys I posted the xitter post againwhy not just... play the game?
>>733139803Yeah but tinkerer is just ass if you don't get any tech increase skills or passives.
>>733139898I wanted to give kid a (You), he seemed down
How can I contact Eggmund? I just want the name of my buddy that passed away in the game...
>>733139921You can get good tinkerer synergies that do not involve tech
>>733129291>Yggdra Unionstory slop>Knights in the Nightmaretutorial slop
>Knights in the Nightmare schizo
>>733139172newfag
>>733139607>his cat isnt a mecha pilot
>>733128810>>733129165>>733129265Unironicly askingWhat the fuck is a SRPG?
>>733141728Sex rpg, SRPG for short
>>733139034why wouldn't it
How exactly does Charisma workit says max and starting mana but doesn't say what the conversion rate is
>>733141921Starting mana is literally 1 to 1, idk about max
>>733133987doesnt your point only work if roguelike mechanics were objectively bad, which is a false statement. No one could argue that roguelike mechanics + arcade game doesnt make arcade game objectively better, for example. Keeps the arcade mechanics, keeps the arcade pull, but adds variety, replay value, and more complexity./v/ has become so lazy they just point at a thing and pretend to have a point, hence anyone using the "-slop" suffix has already lost.
>>733141921Your starting mana is your charisma. Your max mana is 2x your charisma. It's not hard.Likewise you get 1 mana per turn for every intelligence you have.
>>733128810The only people buying and playing it are clout chasers. The market is dead.
>>733128810try playing it
>>733128810Haven't played the game yet but gameplay wise it looks a lot like Dofus/Wakfu which interest me because well most tactical approach to tactical gameplay is quite different from those.
>>733134442when you use chat gpt to shitpost like this it's extremely obvious because no human actually talks like thisfaggot
>>733142474Frenchman detected
I really like SRPGS, and outside of a few, I do like that Mewgenics forces me to go outside the comfort. I'm really bad jn SRPGs for locking in a comfort rotation and never really moving off of it. Was especially bad for it in earlier games like Langrisser or OB or Brigidine. Mewgenics feels a little bit closer to FFRW or VPCotP or the one where you fight giants on the DS, just a little big of extra syngerising and interactions forcing me to play a little different but not being too completely random/dead end (which is why I've never gone for the FE series, even if they aren't that bad for it.) >>733142474You know, I quite kicked the wakfu card game, One More Gate, despite not being a fan of deckbuilders. Maybe I should go for Wakfu one day. I remember getting into Mabinogi for a while because I really really liked Mabinogi Duel.
>>733132175>Pico vs Bear in the Big Blue HouseTHE BIG HOUSE THAT BLEW
>>733132138grinding is gameplay and has been part of the medium since before you were born.
