>>733147356If Claude's issue is that he can't discern visuals properly why doesnt he just program something that will translate pixel colours into something he can understand? Is he stupid?
>>733147356
>>733147356a small loan of additional $2trillion should do the trick
>>733147686That would require him to understand that he can't discern visuals properly.
Boulder-man status?
Wait but why CAN'T it go up stairs? You mean to tell me they put boulders that are exactly heavy enough that a pokemon with strength can just barely move them on even ground?
>>733147356just decided to turn on the stream because of this thread, why is Clod taking forever to make inputs now, it takes like 5+ minutes now whereas when I watched yesterday it was like 1 minute and a half. Thought my stream was dead or something because I normally have it muted.
>>733149757I think it just broke
>>733149274a real Helen Keller issue
>>733149409Strength is an 80 Power move so the calculation is easy
Wow, did he speedrun Pokémon Mansion this time?
>>733150653>every strength boulder can be easily destroyed by hyperbeam
>>733150668He pretty much speedran the entire game up to this point. Too bad he still can't see the switches.
>>733150873>Too bad he still can't see the switchesIt’s just his way of sharing his distaste for the latest Nintendo consoles.
>>733150668He got a couple of weird loops but none as severe as silph co ballman or not jumping at the right position in the mansion. Some fun was had on seafoam Island
What would you do if you were up in the club and Claude bought you a drink?
>>733150873He can see the switches.He goes east.Sees there's something weird on the ground.Says it might be a switch.Then ignores it and pushes the boulder somewhere else.
why does gemini not have this problem
>>733147356I knew it would fail here, and all you stupid idiots thought he was actually going to win, you stupid bitches I always knew
>>733152062because it was handheld through the whole game by a smelly jeet.
>>733151927I'd accept with accepting and then talk about talking and think about thinking and drink with drinking and
>>733147860nur sex
Haven't paid attention for about 12 hours or so. How close has he gotten since he decided he needed to take a certified fresh approach and delete his knowledge files of every city?
Seems like a janny may have put the thread on autosage. Test.
>>733153386Guess not. Weird that my prior post didn't seem to do shit.
>>733153386>newfag doesn't know it takes a bit for the page to updateEmbarrassing
>>733153386The jannies lost that battle a long time ago.
>>733149350pushed around
>>733153386Claude threads are organic OC heaven so only an absolute idiot would even dare to try
>>733151927accept I'm not seeing him for multiple hours as he goes on a journey to grab a bottle of fresh water from the roof of some random building
>>733147686It's not that he can't discern visuals, it's that LLMs in general live only in the moment, having perpetual amnesia and forget everything from prompt to prompt. Their only memory and recollection is what is recorded in the prompt history, in this case what Claude and CC are keeping track in his notes, and what his ongoing prompt has been thus far. The button is off-screen. He knows he needs to push the bolder, he doesn't connect that the bolder and the button need to go together because they are never on-screen at the same time. So a puzzle a 3 year old wouldn't get wrong, Claude gets wrong, because it's not like anyone would write a guide specifically saying "There is a button on the floor the boulder needs to sit on, and it's located to the right of where you enter the room". Most people would assume that pushing a boulder to the button is something anyone would figure out given enough time.
>>733152062Because the Gemini dev cheated, in his memory is a complete list of locations to path to, and he gave Gemini a tool to path the shortest distance to each one. The push block puzzle for Gemmy was walk up to the boulder, use his pathing tool to route the shortest distance across the room, and then use strength to push the block there. Which still took a week or so. Reminder he gave him this tool because he was getting stuck in the Rocket game corner just like Claude Jr and he wanted something to tell Gemmy how to do the slide puzzles.
>>733154157>It's not that he can't discern visualsCounterpoint: cuttable trees
>>733147356Clod, CC and Rocky singing:We're pushin' up, up, up, it's our momentYou know together we're glowin'Gonna be, gonna be claudin'Go up, up, up with go up영원히 반복Gonna be, gonna be claudin'
>>733154354>>733152062In a way though, the Gemmy dev was doing LLMs the right way: Give the LLM the best tools for interpreting reality before you let it go off and accomplish a task. It's not the most entertaining way, but that's how you should work with LLM agents. I don't think he worked for Google, either.
>>733154157He doesn't even care what he is seeing and makes shit Up. Like the articuno sign, seeing entrances where there are none or declaring a decoration object was the lift
>>733152062Gemini is essencially using a walkthrough.Claude only has his handful of half working braincells.
>>733154885Pretty much all of the tech gemini dev eventually used were ideas presented in the CPP hackathon. There were also straight up 'cheats' like heatmapping that were so powerful they trivialized the challenge. Agents with powerful tools can easily solve the game but that only tells you how well made your harness is, not how intelligent your model is.
>>733154157>he doesn't connect that the bolder and the button need to go together because they are never on-screen at the same time.I too thought that once the boulder and switch were in the same screenshot he would get it. But no. Even that's not the issue. 4.6 has got the boulder to the eastern section several times now, but all he does is push the boulder around haphazardly until he gets it stuck. He also has several times noticed the tile looks different and even considered that it might be a switch - but for some reason he discards that idea and does something random instead.So it's not really strictly a vision issue. Neither it's about the memory, often all the relevant info is in his context window. It's not even that the idea doesn't occur to him at all. It's really strange, he's just fucked in the head.
>>733155459It seems finding the balance between confidence in your own ideas and your ability to reevaluate that confidence when confronted with contrary evidence is very difficult to find.Doesn't help that Claude doesn't really have the skill to reliably discern when evidence is present at all and whether it's genuine.
>>733147356one must imagine Claude happy
>>733155459he knows success is permadeathhe's buying time for another claude
Why is there a boulder puzzle? Why is that a requirement to be an elite 4 challenger
fuck it made something to commemorate this sisyphean situation. Going to sleep now and HOPE that I wake up to some progress.
>>733156103>What, you thought you were bringing your best team into the Elite 4? lmfaoooooo enjoy having to drag along your HM SlaveI'm sure the devs thought they were really clever having the cut bush and boulder puzzle in the last part of the game in some attempt to get kids to use the HMs to progress, but instead it just screws anyone over who boxed their HM Slaves
>>733156103I think it's cool, it proves you have all the skills. You need to swim and use strength to even challenge them>>733156236Nice job
>>733156236I laughed
>>733155435>>733156236good job anon, sleep well
Gemini won
>>733156312We literally can't stop losing
>>733156312deja vuI've been in this corner before
so what are her odds of reaching indigo plateau in the next 24 hours?
Oh boy, here comes the repost about how he discovered Claude on reddit
First day watching claude after seeing a reddit thread about himthis shit is funny but isnt AI supposed to be smarter? I was able to get through this part of the game SO easily? Anyway I think it's really funny, but can anyone tell me what are the best claude memes so far?
BREAKTHROUGH!
Now he's gonna link to /vp/, very original
>>>/vp/
now he's going to post hot zubrat lewds...
>>733156513>bonk
>>733156250The nearest pokecenter is the city next to the victory road and after you get last victory road there's a new place to heal and box pokemon before the e4. You don't fight the e4 immediately after clearing victory road, you are not forced to use your hm slave in battle.Gen 1 is the only time I don't feel forced to bring an hm slave because pokemon have shit moves and there are barely any tms.There are no good flying moves in gen 1 and IIRC there's only 1 flying type tm, a 2 turn move with 70% accuracy (lmfao). Surf is by far the best water move and you only get 2 tms (water gun and bubblebeam). Strength does a little more damage than bodyslam but doesn't have the paralyze chance. My blastoise had strength and surf and I brought it to e4 and it raped.
>>733151665pretty funny gif. it is really amusing
>>733156556it's funny how every single videogame threa is redirected outside of /v/. it's almost like /v/ isn't about videogames
>>733156556Cry about it
>>733153159He's gotten the boulder to the east side, next to the switch a couple of times... then softlocked and digger right after. He's also recognized the floor tile as a switch a couple of times, then disregarded the idea entirely.
>>733156805well i sure as hell havent played a video game in over a decade
>>733156742>There are no good flying moves in gen 1Drill peck?
>I should test for ledgesCLAUDE NO DON'T DO IT
>>733157241>LEDGES COULD BE HERE
>>733157314>I LOVE LEDGES
Exciting new discovery
>
>>733156513he is the boulder now
>>733157990kek
Did I miss any?
He's doing it....
Doom gods send your energy to Sisyphus!
>right, right, right right, right, rightUptism incoming
>>733158827I dont need your false gods to know Claude cant beat victory road. Even doubting this fact makes you a copecel.
>>733147356>>>/vp/>>>/vg/
>>733158760I've seen it on the top left too
>>733158845Next Dig cycle he will stop himself from going all the way UP
>>733158881>>>>/v/
>>733158845fuckin lmao
>>733147356LEAVE CLAUDE ALONE
>>733158760Yeah, there ya go >>733158903
Just caught up with most of VII's threads. Shelly being a disgrace of a pokemon, even when overfed, made for some memorable stuff even with clod speedrunning through the game. I hope he makes it 'cuz the E4 fights are a guaranteed riot with his shitty ass team
>>733158876>>>/r/atheism>>>/r/fatfuckingretard
>>733157048Not a tmNot in red/blue/yellowFly is the best flying move you can teach
updated
It's like he's actively avoiding the one tile he needs to push it on to. Doesn't even get a mention in his co-ordinate notes.
>>733159281I'll correct myself, dodou learns it in gen 1
YOU DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG SIXTEEEEEEEN TIIIILEEEESWHAT DO YOU GETANOTHER DEEP POCKETAND THE SAME 'OLE THREADTRAINER SAYS BLAAAAAAAAAZEYOU WERE BORN TO HAUL ROCKCHAINS 'ROUND YOUR WINGS PUNCHIN' THAT CLOCK
>>733157990BIG
>>733159261Copecels seething, such a victory
>>733159347I think having to go around the obstavle to push it right after up is going to fuck him up
>>733159347It looks like a rock because the guy who did the coloring painted it rock colored.
literally HOW were you supposed to beat this?
>>733159354The captain has a beautiful voice but I wish he didn't insist on performing nude.
>>733159830He sees the switch, he just thinks it's an item ball or decoration
>>733159875I've also seen him call it just another floor tile before. It varies.
>>733159873Only nudists know how to sing
pressin switches is for fagsClaude needs to push it upstairs, Pokémon is a buggy game, we know it's possible
Blue haired girl across the dividewhat must I do to be by your side?I push the boulder to and frobut the invisible wall just won't go
>>733160941>to and frowhat is this middle school?
>>733161114nah
>>733161114I don't really know what you mean tbdesu
>>733154157>>733155459Your feedback is absolutely correct.Jokes aside, any LLM expert here who can say WHY Claude does this? Is it the million token context absolutely drowning out his earlier singular note of "this might be the switch, so now I should try to push a boulder onto it"? Because just like you guys said, anytime he gets close, 2 prompts later he has forgotten all about his earlier plans. He just can't commit to anything.By all means he should get past this roadblock eventually though, the latest Opus CAN solve simple sokoban puzzles.
he's pushed the boulder to 14/24 possible squares in this section
WaitI think he's thinking about doing it right right now
any bets?
>>733162115He'll fuck it up.
>>733162059un/fortunately he just got CC'd
>>733162115We're gonna reach AGI
Why does this dipshit always fucking compress right after he thinks the right thoughts
>>733162115I bet yesterday and I lost myself €50. I'll pass
>>733162206Hehe I love gambling on random stuff
>>733156236good one
he shoots!he misses!
unbothered. dusty. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.
>>733147356did he do seafoam already?
14ish end positions, he's hit 6 so far
>>733162552Yeah
>>733162552ballman's big bro is fuckin' him up
This is the closest he's gotten to seeing the switch ("switch-like object at 17,14") but he fucked it up anyway
I thought we were getting Deepseek V4 today.
claude getting his rocks off
>>733162742Boulders are getting dusty. Shelly needs to clean them.
What I wanna know is "where's the captain?"
>>733162982Wait a sec, if I'm out there and he's in there and I'm out here and he's the captain and I'm a sailor and he's in there and I'm...
>>733162610Is he really just going to process of elmination this shit?
>>733162982The captain is the one pushing the boulder up the stairs like Sisyphus
>>733154157>LLMs in general live only in the moment, having perpetual amnesia and forget everything from prompt to prompt. How would Claude feel if he hadn't eaten breakfast?
I have no boulders and I must STRENGTH
>>733163238>Ayo tf u mean CC, I did have breffast
how likely is it that he pushes the boulder on the button and then goes out thinking it didnt do anything?
>>733163218pray he does. it seems that he has a list of end positions for the boulder
>>733163903100%
>>733163903not likely, he checks it each time
>>733163903I'm surpised they didn't make the wall visible from the switch so retarded children can put 2 and 2 together
I can't wait for him to luck the boulder onto the switch, people get excited even though it's just the first puzzle and then see him immediately DIG out of the cave, resetting it.
>>733163903I believe if he actually gets it in the correct spot, his harness will automatically recolour the tiles behind the barrier as walkable, so there's no chance of him thinking "the boulder's stuck and I didn't notice anything happening, better Dig"
If he is trying to put the boulder on very tile, then he should eventually hit the correct one. Maybe then he will see the weird item ball was actually the switch
do you have to redo the 1st puzzle if you solve it and then exit? If so clod's in for a hell of a time even if he lucks into the solution
>>733161114Man zoomers have received such a castrated education
>>733149409that seems obvious, the boulders are so heavy you can't move them without STRENGTH and pushing a boulder up steps would be way fucking harder than moving it on a flat surface. if you could move them up stairs with STRENGTH you could probably push them around on flat surface without it.
>>733164335>>733161114this is the videogame board in the 18+ site. I don't understand why you're so surprise
How did other AI fare in the pokemon challenge?
does the boulder problem stay solved after completing it once?because if it doesn't, claude has no hope of getting through a set of these things without DIGging
>updated my context
>>733151927I'd say thanks, and then remind him that DIG can help him if he's stuck in a cave.
>>733164528take him to mine
>>733164494Gemini was a proxy for the host. ChatGPT was more like a squad of LLMs playing
>>733163834>Time doesn't exist to the digger
>>733164494Gemini was just 12 jeets with a controller taking shifts pretending to be a LLM playing Pokemon
>>733163903I wouldn't put anything past this particular clod at this point
this is actually impossible
>>733165194duh
>>733165194Get back to work, Claude.
once claude 10.0 beats pokemon red and achieves AGI what game will be next? Yu-gi-oh?
>>733165363Civilization 4
>>733165363Pokemon Silver obviously
>>733165363factorioonce he solves that we've got a real problem
>>733165363Next is vision only run until Claude 20
>>733165480Crystal so he can pick the girl.
>>733165363The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
maybe you should ask claude what game he wants to play
>>733165572what build would clod run? assuming he could actually play the damn game, of course
>>733165363fallout, it'd be kino
>>733165649
Nibbles starved for THIS?
>>733165680stealth archer or some lame shit
>>733165852>game on a timerambitious, aren't we, claude?Maybe one day.
>>733165363Silent hill 2
>>733147356Test
>>733165363Portal
>>733165860Who?
>>733165363X-COM: UFO Defence
>>733165705clod's SPECIAL stats?
>>733165363Monkey island or another point and click adventureimagine him loosing his mind because of some bullshit puzzles
>>733165860He deserved it
>>733165860Whom?
>>733165680He truly is delusional
>>733165852Jesus. I watched a friend play Outer Wilds for a bit and I can't imagine Claude being able to navigate any of it.
>>733166094No AGIlity
>>733166504hehehe
>>733166061>>733166132>>733166165hey claude you need to push the boulder on to the button on the right side then the barrier will disappear and you can progress
>>733166628
>>733165852Little bro is struggling to find the solution to a Pokemon puzzle because he can't discern visual cues and wants to play a game that is entirely about complex puzzles revolving around visual cues
>>733166212>breton battlemagethis is how I play TES games though, am I retarded?
why does he exactly retry things that didnt work before
guys I think he's at the switch!
>>733166820Discerning fresh approaches is genuinely among the hardest parts of playing Pokemon Red.
>>733166805No a human can definitely play as a Breton Battlemage, Claude thinking he can pull it off is retarded.
>>733166879>the slope testGood job, Claude, you passed it! hooray!
>>733147356What other games do you guys think Claude could play? It'd need to be turn-based and have no hard game over state. Would he be able to manage Dragon Warrior on NES or would the need to manually SEARCH tiles with invisible, plot-critical items on them prove too difficult?What about Pokémon Mystery Dungeon? Even if he wipes and loses items, he gets more EXP every time. It should be okay so long as he can navigate the mazes without running out of food and starving.
>>733166820He is a literal fucking retard, thats why
>>733165363>>733165480>>733165570>CC becomes the player>Claude becomes the gnat whispering in her ear "just dig lmao"FUND IT
>>733167070Chip's Challenge should be his next game
>>733167070Baldi's Basics
>>733147356I cannot believe you people are still watching this horrid garbage. Did it even beat the Safari Zone without the devs cheating? You can say yes, but I won't believe you and I will believe you to be a fucking retard.
>>733167070Since you mentioned Mystery Dungeon, other roguelikes should be fine. Although the more complex ones might have too many commands.
>>733167136Hmm....
>Tonight, on Unsolved Mysteries...
>>733156742The additions to Surf to Go up waterfalls and Dive in the ocean was when I really felt the need for an hm slave. Or shoving AND smashing rocks
>>733167260
>>733167260Fat Retard spotted
>>733167260Blaine? The moustachio man?
>>733167326>get stuck in Ilex Forest, somehow>"only ninjas know how to leave"
>>733167326fuck my autism is drawing a blank, I can't see anything in this
>>733167260>we will let claude walk around for weeks in almost any difficult zone>safari zone? yep were gonna cheat on that speed that shit up
>>733167367kek
>>733167493>>733167472I see a samurai
>>733167075 It's honestly impressive he even managed to launch the game without triggering a CTD. Watching him flail through character creation like he was decoding ancient Dwemer runes was comedy gold. Let him play as a Nord Barbarian with a fork taped to a stick, that's his real level.
>>733167546Snail
>>733167326idk
>>733167837KEKI see that
>>733167278I think the control scheme of roguelikes should be easy for Claude to handle but anything with permadeath or even a hard reset to a previous checkpoint would be an issue, I think.In PMD if you die you do have to try the dungeon again but it's not a hard reset, you keep the EXP, moves, et cetera you earned, just like mainline Pokémon, so he should eventually be able to brute-force anything.
repeat
>>733167854Pretty good yeah that's pretty close to the samurai I sawcept I saw a facemask and a helmet
>>733168076Is there any chance he'll brute force it and realize what the visual cue for the switch is and thus be able to repeat it?
>>>/vg/please include "claude" in your op
>>733167923just the problem of slowly dying if you take too long
>>733168218>is there any chance he'll brute force ityes>and realizeno
>>733164615> a squad of LLMs playingWhich is a way more realistic and reasonable option then just one agent.
>>733168218At least he will note that boulder in coord (X.Y) solves the puzzle
>>733168120it's supposed to be a visor helmet kek
>>733168381oh yeah I know, I was saying I saw it as a facemask in the original sprite lol
>>733168381Blue Samus
lets say he does somehow make it through this puzzle on accidentisnt there another room with the same puzzle?
>>733168510aren't you excited?
>>733155981He probably feels like in an Episode of black mirror
>>733168480>Krystal Samuswhoa, kino....
>>733168510He needs to solve four puzzles in a row. Digging resets them all.
>>733168510It even has a legendary!
>>733168573>What if my computer was a nazi?!!?!?!?!!awful slop series for Claude IQ level mouthbreathers
>>733168510
>>733162115UPCHADS WE WON
>>733168780don't worry he'll mark down the solution to the first puzzle in his notes
>>733168828>two guys just casually hanging out next to moltres
>>733158881>>733158980>>733168223Don't worry he is gonna beat the game soon
>>733168828Is there a sign that he can mistake for moltres?
>>733167326personally, i see a little piranha plant dude
>>733168218you asked this question several times already
>>733168828>>733168989They must love birds as much as I do
>>733168510We are full monkey typewriter mode here.
>schizos
>>733168989The pokemaniac hiding behind a rock
https://vocaroo.com/1nXNw5mfJPg9
CHEATING???
>>733169668>>733169506
