>4 ability slots>with total 200+ abilities>almost every mon has mega evo>has difficulty modeaw hell yeah nigg->auto-heal after battle>portable pc>infinite rare candies>infinite pokeballs with 100% rate>as "qol"fuck you
>cheats as quality of life
no one cares faggot
Containment board
>>733215130The PROFESSIONAL nuzlockers do it so the games that try to streamerbait them do it too.
>>733215039>portable pc>infinite rare candies>infinite pokeballs with 100% rateDon't use them????¿¿?¿??¿¿?¿It's a single player game, are you retarded, nigger faggot? Also stop samefagging your own thread.
>>733215039Already done better over a decade ago with less qol and more actually challenging gameplay.
>>733215039It's a battle autism hack that has the Pokemon Showdown move picker and EV sliders from the beginning. It's not meant to be a Pokemon game, just a batlle simulator built on top of one and that's based
>>733215039>infinite rare candiesThis is an immediate flag that this is a to back meant for Nuzlockes, in which case the game should have a built-in level cap of the highest level Pokemon of the next gym leader. I'm not saying it does, but that's typically how much nuzlockers use the infinite rare candies anyway.
>>733216130NTA but you shouldn't handicap yourself over game mechanics. If it's optional then it's one thing, except that it's there the moment you boot up the game.
>>733215039>>infinite pokeballs with 100% rateConsidering how often BW fags(and other rejects) demand exactly that(and fully voiced dialogues), makes sense that romhack would include garbage that no pokemon fan wants
>>733217885>gen 5 fags want thiswat
>>733218568He's mindbroken, please understand.
This was kino in the first few versions but they just keep adding custom NPCs and the problem is all the new NPCs talk in ESL schizobabble with no proper punctuation. It's incredibly jarring and out of place. This also suffers from the same problem all difficulty romhacks do in that all their endgames feel the exact same because 10 generations later there's enough legendaries to give all endgame trainers full legendary teams. They also keep adding Fakemon despite having 1000+ Pokemon to work with and some of them still being shitmons somehow. Every new Pokemon they added could have just been a revamp of an existing one. It also has bugs out the ass. I remember thinking of how to prepare for the Meteor Falls double battle and led with Weezing to use Neutralizing Gas to suppress drought. It worked, however as soon as Weezing switched out all abilities activated again and all of a sudden the Pokemon I switched into the Weezing slot got the AAAAAAAAAAAA ability which started rain and froze my game for 5 minutes and did it every turn because it kept activating at the start of every turn. It tries to sell itself on a hardcore Nuzlocke experience but I'm pretty sure it's impossible to not run into at least one game breaking bug. This needs at least a dozen patches of pure polish, not more content that doesn't work.
>>733215039>this private server ahhlike pissed me off so much that I made a vip thread about itthis could have been an email
>>733216038/vp/ has completely outlived its usefulness as a containment board and should either be converted into a general mons genre board or just shut down outright
>>733215039Incredible kino game. One of the best Gen 3 romhacks up there with Unbound and Emerald Rogue 2.0.
>>733219468>ahhyou must be 18+ to post here
>>733215039yep. also any game that fiddles with the stats for any reason is on my personal shitlist.
>>733215039People that will complain about this are non-players.People that have played enough understand why these are non-issues.It's called respecting the player's time.
>>733220083your post violated my time
>>733215039>play battleslop romhack>complain that it's a battleslop romhackLet me guess, you also hate chadical red
>>733220083>respecting the player's timeIf playing an RPG is a waste of time, might as well as play battle simulators. Kill yourself
Luv me some QoL. Could always do with a lil more QoL. Give me more QoL. Respect my time. I don't want to play the game, just give me some QoL.
>>733215039By all means, don't use them then. The game is balanced around them and they use certain areas like the e4 blocking team swapping or the aqua/magma multiple fight in a row battles that don't allow healing between to make them more difficult in a different way. I had a lot of fun with Emerald Elite Redux and finished about 4 playthroughs for now while I wait for the next update, but it sounds like it might not be for you. Perhaps go play Radical Red or Pokeduel instead
>>733220197Good thing EER is functionally a battle sim game then innit. You have ten trillion romhacks that don't lean into this angle, why seethe over the scant few that do?
>>733215039Aren't they optional features? Modern Emerald has that too but it's on an NPC you can just tell no to
>>733220316>>733220343>is a bonghi kierhow's your sandbox
>>733215039doesn't this level cap you per gym? sounds fine considering it's based around you needing to be battle perfect from gym 1
>>733220264ngl the 3x inventory sounds fun
>>733220446Not from a 3rd world country but feel free to continue shitting your pants at the fact that you can't beat a Pokémon game that literally fully heals you every battle old chap
What's your favorite new Elite Redux mon? Also new update soon
>>733220558>a thirdieWell isn't that easy for me?
>>733219369They could had buffed already existing shitmon and just add ever single one of solo/final evos their own mega. Instead we give attention to donut steels.
>>733215039>mega evo>implying its a good thingnigger, I dont want to spend 10 seconds each fight to turn my pokemon into some temporal formwhy not just have them as permanent forms at that point?mega evolutions are the most stupid addition in pokemon
>>733221642I bet you also want setup moves to be automatically used for free so you don't waste a turn
>>733221642I had this funny idea that you can get them permanently by doing specific tasks. Like Annhiliape, for example.
>>733215039>quality of life features in a romhack>it's cheatsevery time. portable pc is the least horrible i guess simply because that's in the mainline games, but the rest are fucking awful
>>733221902I get why there's even a portable pc to begin with due to SV's open world nature. Adding back in Emerald is retarded.
>>733221737>just have this mandatory transformation at every fucking fight just because its just more powerful than your current formyou gotta be retarded to think that is a good idea for gameplay
>>733222078>mandatoryNot always. Tell me that mega skarmory is a mandatory transformation every fight
>>733221642This has a QoL option to make megas permanent.
>>733220898Maybe in your next life you can reincarnate in a real country saar
>>733215039i simply do not play romhacks with mons from gen 6 or beyond
If I can do anything by saving and spending time, it can be turned into a Quality of Life feature.Portable PC and saving after battle, for example, are acceptable because I can save the game on the spot, walk all the way back to a city and return. The feature simply makes it instant, so it's not a break of the game mechanics and thus acceptable.
>>733222078I understand why they did it, the gimmick is designed so that you can only have one mega per team. Yeah you could just "make that a rule" and be done with it but the gameplay needs some kind of justification for the limit which is why it has to be treated as different from a normal evo/form.
>>733222387This, but the reverseI've spent a shitload of time playing gen 3, 4 and 5 hacks to the point that I am already exhausted with their dex. If your hack releases today and doesn't offer everything from gen 1-9, then fuck you, I ain't playing itMuh minimalist hacks that don't even reach the 386 minimum limit because they want to handpick are the worst of them all. Gotta love having 0 reason to stay on a route because I only see the two same encounters every time>b-b-b-b-b-but it's supposed to be muh soulful and muh lore accurate!!! fuck you
>>733222289>
>>733215039Portable PC, balls without going into the menu, and escaping a battle when pressing B have all been staple quality of life romhack changes for several years now.
>>733219595>/vp/ is basically dead, with most of the board being low quality threads listing after children and animals>gacha games burn through 2-4 generals a day on /vg/ discussing literally nothing, killing off weaker generals for real video games>recurring gacha game threads are delete-on-sight on /v/, but gachafags circumvent this by disguising their threads instead of simply going to /vg/, where they can discuss their gambling for softcore poronography addiction 24/7>no gacha board?
>>733222921/vmg/ exists
>>733215039as long as there's a level cap system there's no real harm in infinite candies mindlessly pressing a in the tall grass to grind is the worst part of any pokemon game
>>733223079>mindlessly pressing a in the tall grass to grind is the worst part of any pokemon gameAnon, just admit you hate RPGs in general
Elite Redux, much like Radical Red, is faggotry for 'professional nuzlockers' and smogonpedos and shouldn't exist.
>>733222921>instead of simply going to /vg/, where they can discussYou have never used /vg/ if you think this is even remotely possible in anything other than the least populated generals. Talking about Genshin Impact on /vg/ is genuinely impossible and constantly has people bickering about nothing or refusing to answer certain questions because they just don't want to. Wuthering Waves and Kingdom Hearts are the only topics I've seen where discussing the game is even remotely possible, and even with WuWa it's half the time people complaining about ZZZ, Arknights, or Genshin players coming to the general when any minor complaint is made. Where Winds Meet is another one I had to use because the /v/ threads died and half the threads at any given time is them talking about Discord guilds, people from said guilds, and people participating in PvP and how they suck compared to the other people doing PvP.
>>733222921gacha, like furfag content, should be permabanned instead of contained since it attracts undesirables. The same is valid for ponyshit, gooner garbage, etc etc etc
>>733223025It might as well not.
>>733222921>>733223157>>733223284I don't understand why gacha shit is even allowed in the first place.>muh anime sex!!It's a dime on dozen on pixiv yet you're thirsty over pngs. They're not even good at all.
>>733223371My theory is that the income of this website keeps going down, especially after the well deserved hack, and they allow garbage with porn in it to keep traffic up in hopes to make money. Also, most of the doxxed /v/ mods are degenerates.
>>733223628If they're so desperate for money just turn all of blue boards 18+, In 8ch you can post porn while having real game discussion, and /v/ is just /b/ but vidya anyways.
Play Exceed insteadHas the same 4 abilites autism but tuned down so its not an overpowered messHas built in Nuzlocke settingsNo donut steel OC shit
>>733223025Which is one of the most dead boards on the site because they still allow gachaslop to be on /v/ and /vg/
>>733219595>/vp/ has completely outlived its usefulness as a containment boardWait til a new pokemon game releases and you'll be glad /vp/ exists as a containment board
>>733223974Any gen 3 romhack that nerfs weather is on my shitlist.
>>733224098Based Castform appreciator
>>733215039I can't enjoy romhacks anymore because Clover was so good it ruined all other hacks for me.
>>733223149>and shouldn't existMmmm, and 2000+ enhancement hacks should?
>>733223149If you're not playing an original cartridge on original hardware you're a nigger, simple as
>>733217767>plays a nuzlocke
>>733216121>PROFESSIONAL nuzlockersUnemployment final boss
>>733215039I don't get the point of these hyper battle focused romhacks. I can just play Showdown for that. When I'm choosing to play an actual Pokemon game, the adventure part is just as important as the battling and these types of hacks almost forget about that aspect. It also makes me mad because these autist hacks usually have the best features but they're stuck on stupid autism difficulty battle hacks for autists. Fuck autists.
>>733225657Shoo shoo, oldtype. We get the best games because the only people who would put in the work for the features you desire are the autists, and they're going to make the games for themselves
>>733215039whats a good pokemon rom hack? Finished Lazarus graphics is comfy but it felt empty.
>>733226013Super Mariomon
>>733225657>NOOO EVERY ROMHACK MUST BE A SLIGHTLY MODIFIED VERSION OF FRLG OR EMERALD
>>733226013I've been playing Tourmaline and have been having a good time with it. I think it's got a nice difficulty curve with the trainers not being quite as plentiful meaning you're likely never going to have a full team at the optimal level for a gym.Thankfully I found Wynaut before the first route which is a living cheat code that punches way above where it should.
>play "difficulty" romhack>it limits what mons you are allowed to catch and what moves you are allowed to learn
instead of infinite rare candies they should just add 3 difficulty levels each with different levels for trainers, and your mons automatically level up to a certain level everytime you beat a gym. Just remove xp and grinding altogether, it's ass.
>>733226727but then you remove strategies that require you to be underleveled to work
>>733226727>Just remove xp and grinding altogether, it's ass.Why do you people just straight up not like RPGs?
>>733215039>Rom HackAt that point you are already cheating and not playing the game the way it was intended. Anything you dont like about it is on you.
>>733224513>whataboutismKill yourself.
>>733226797Its the paradox of rom hack players. They want QOL upgrades but not so much that it goes past their personal threshold of difficulty that they want. Instead of using any sort of self control they instead piss and moan and demand that creators custom make them to suit them personally.
>>733226979It's also some misguided purity autism that an official game is allowed to eat up 5000 hours of their time but a fangame better be over in one weekend or else. If they somehow get more playtime out of a romhack than an official game that is now an insult to their beloved franchise.
>>733224098Weather is overpowered and needed a nerf.
just play Run and Bun
>>733227090Indeed. The very definition of wanting to have your cake and eat it too.
>>733227120Horrible mindset, buff non weather strategies instead.
>>733216038>>733219595/vp/ was never a containment board
>>733226625>you can't learn the good stuff>but all your enemies can>this is "fun"
>>733227120Zoomers will never understand the thrill of using Groudon or Kyogre in RSE.Generation 5 ruined weather by handing out drought and drizzle to shitmons and now weather is never allowed to be good again because some Smogonfag didn't like that a Politoed lead kept landing hypnosis on him. Generation 3 was the only time when legendaries were actually as strong in gameplay as they were hyped up to be in the story and it was entirely due to their abilities.
>>733215039Play Moemon Quetzal instead.
>>733226797I do like rpgs though. But I don't think rpg elements in pokémon are interesting, and in pokémon romhacks centered around difficulty especially. It's just a chore most of the times.>>733226782This is true yeah. Maybe just add a level trainer that can allow you to choose any level below the current cap for your pokémon?
>>733226979>>733227090>made up shit>made up shit>made up shitI've played 3 (three) pokémon romhacks in my life which is more than the numbers of mainline games I have completed or tried, you both seem mentally defective.
>>733215039>xir is playing pokemon romhavks in 2026there is like a billion games to play abd you decide to play trashmaybe you should stop watching YouTube poke faggots and get fucking real
Redux feels more like a puzzle game where you come up with a strategy then figure out what you need to cover when you hit some insane enemy strategy that stonewalls your current one. Teambuilders paradise
>>733228024Skin like the inside of my toilet bowl
>>733227926I accept your concession.
>>733228130Schizophrenia sure seems enjoyable
>>733224172lol okay Clover dev, it's good but not so good it ruins other hacks. It's about on par with Unbound.
>>733228261You keep responding because you think if you have the last word it means you "won"LoL
>>733215039How is a nuzlocke still a challenge if you have infinite rare candies?
i don't understand the appeal of a game you play on 2x speed and qol 75% of the game out just so you can team build which you can do on pokemon showdown anyway
>>733219595i don't know what's the point of a single franchise having its own board if these fags are gonna vome here to discuss anyway/vp/ should just be converted into nintendo board so all these annoying consolewarfaggots and salesfaggots fuck off forever
>>733224172i hate fakemons and i hate the total lack of resources on the game because its fakemons>b-b-b-but you didnt have any resources when pokemon rby first came out!!!yes you did you had strategy guides and if you were too broke to buy those the game was still really easy and not grindslop teambuilding simulatorif you're going to make your game difficult then use pokemon i already know so i dont waste several hours grinding up your equivalent of pidgey
>>733228805It isn't, but it is convenient for e-celeb #33921 to make a video about your retarded game so you have retarded clout in a pedofurry-dominated sphere of influence.>>733229075I miss when /vp/ or /tr/ didn't exist yet and 420chan had the only pokémon board, way less retarded furfags/consolewar/stupid threads about it.
>>733229084I don't understand people who call Clover grindy. I've beaten the game multiple times without ever needing to go out of my way to grind levels. Maybe stop skipping every trainer on each route and you won't be so far behind.
>>733228805I don't know why you would Nuzlocke this game, but if the only difficulty you can imagine comes from being underleveled you might actually be retarded
>>733215039>infinite rare candieshuh? fuck's the point, i assume it also does level scaling based off of your party then, but what's the point of levels, why not have everything be 100 and ev trainable then
>>733222387>THE ICE CREAM AND TRASH BAG ARE GOOD GUYS TRUST ME!!!!
>>733228926Champions is coming out soon which should satisfy the people who play those type of hacks.
>>733229084nigga it has built in exp share
>>733224172Clover having built in anti-cheat is the greatest shit ever. So many nuzlocke fags couldn't release their playthrough videos because they got put in jail for hacking in rare candies lmao.
>>733229363since when nigga i dont remember that
>>733229276If you can't understand how being able to trivialize most poke deaths with a leveled replacement you might be more retarded than I am.>inb4 disingenuous replyAnons ITT referred to it as a nuzlocke game, read the thread before you reply to me.
>>733229694Not sure if it wasn't there in an earlier version, as i've beaten it last year, but your whole team shares exp. Potentially a menu toggle.
>>733229671ROWE also has anti-cheat and it's hilarious to see the spics demanding cheats and infinite rare candies.
>>733215039>Difficulty rom hack>Its still rock paper scissors but with a tighter stat check on top>The 'skilled' players, look up the team of each opponent, study the AI and use calculators for hours to predict with 100% accuracy how each battle is going to go
>>733229789Play the game before you reply to me you filthy nigger, if you want to come into a game that's built as a team-building battle sim game to try and nuzlocke that's on you for being a mongoloid. Like complaining that the fucking fps doesn't lend itself as well as it could to the cooking minigame
>>733228805>>733229279There are usually level caps that prevent you from passing the next boss/gym's highest level Pokemon. The challenge typically comes from the battles themselves instead of attrition and grinding.
>>733229671>looks up video of what happens when you cheat in Clover>comments are filled with browns asking how to bypass this and still cheat
>>733215039I just want to collect 8 badges with a diverse team of colorful animals. Why is everything a difficulty hack overhaul? Unless it's a fakedex I am not relearning 300+ Pokémon
>>733230269Except most difficulty hacks have challenging random trainers and even wild battles. So when you do a nuzlocke by hacking in infinite candies you are completely skipping over a ton of challenges that could potentially get your mons killed.
>>733230487Good thing that's not how this one's designed then huh?
>>733224091Nothing can be worse than having 150+ threads dedicated to rosterfaggotry prior to a smash release, killing off any thread for a game that isn't that trash.Fuck ABIB btw
>>733230803I can't see it being that bad for the next Smash since Ultimate already gave us every NEVER EVER pick.
>>733215039All i hear is bloat and cheats
>>733225823>>733226274I accept your concession
>>733229352I'd rather have literal sludge and trash bags than people in fursuits
>>733229671>>733229889>>733230349The best part about this is that these hacks aren't meant for nuzlocke to begin with LMAO
>>733230982Oh, they'll find a way. Rosterniggers are almost as obnoxious as rhe average Indian
Grinding is a boring time waster, I'd rather skip it and have level caps that unlock as you progress through the game.
>>733231289More or less. ROWE does have a Nuzlocke mode you can toggle but I never tried it and never will, nuzlockes are cringe as fuck, especially after normies/e-celebs found about it.
>>733231289Clover has NPCs that flat out say the game isn't built for nuzlocke and you are retarded if attempting it.
>I love pokémon!>No I don't want to actually try to catch anything >No I don't want to actually level anything >No I don't want to play through the stories>No I don't want to do puzzles>No I don't want to worry about breeding or anything like that>I just want to see my comp set up team sweepWhat do these people actually like about Pokémon
>>733232187pvp. they are the reasons Champions is being made.
>>733223974This seems more balanced. I might actually play this.
>>733231158if you actually cared about fursuits you would be shitting on every design past gen 2, unovashill.
>>733232187"competitive" pokémon, which is something that shouldn't be endorsed at all, given the target audience of such
>>733215039yeah, and?you know games can exist where being fully healed after every fight is what its balanced around and it still has difficulty and strategy right?the last remnant, every saga game, ff13 serieswhat it means is you have to actually design fights to make up for the lack of attrition of resources, meaning every fight needs to be able to fuck you up. or at least in the case of saga, where some of the areas encounters can fuck you up instantly.rare candies is the same thing. if you are balancing the game around everything being level 100, and have a defined progression path of increasing difficulty challenges still within that, that's fine.it's bad to me because levelling up and getting stronger is a core part of rpg enjoyment, but it doesn't automatically make a game shit there exists the possibility that it can be balanced well for that.
>>733215039Learn to mod. Code that shit out yourself and make a better version, don't let some idiot ruin the best version of their own project and I am serious when I say that. I'm unfuckig a project right now and I feel it was a good decision, because now I get to enjoy the good changes they made while removing or editing the weak or outright bad changes. I thought this board was supposed to be autistic, get really autistic with it. If you aren't willing to do that, then shut up and find something else.
>>733226212>giving praise to Alpharad>ever
>>733229279The pokémon streamers are turbo autists that don't want the process of leveling up in the conventional way but impose level caps based on their current area levels. It's nonsense.
>>733233818>Thinking I care about streamers instead of the merits of what I played.Outside of the garbage braille message and the poorly balanced postgame that floods legendaries into everyone's hands that one-shot you it was great.
>>733233975>if you ignore the bad parts, its goodCompletely empty statement
>>733233975It's still his idea at the end of the day and that Jaiden-fucking retard does not get passes for anything. He's poison.
is Pokemon and Fire Emblem romhacking correlated with the 'tism?
>>733234284i think romhacking in general is correlated with the 'tismbut nintendo game romhacks are a double dose, yes
>>733234160>90% of the game is fun but let's ignore it because 10% of it is bad.
>>733234284It takes autism to actually sit down and make your own custom version of a game or a new game entirely using one as a baseline, so yeah, most likely.
>>733234284Nintendo romhacking in general seems to bring in people who are seriously autistic who refuse to take criticism or even acquiesce to any requests. They're always into the hacks being ballbusters instead of for normal people because they've played the games for so long that's the only thing that makes them enjoy the games anymore. Go look at the Metroid side of things for example, there's no real normal romhacks. Even Super Fusion or whatever it was called requires speedrunning tricks just to play it.
>>733223025That board has one active thread total and it's a thread about gacha drama and raiding gacha threads
>>733226797The best RPGs involve zero grinding.
>>733233529This, it's better to DIY than never
>>733234363>pander to unfunny shit like the 2023 movie by having Bowser doing le ebin funny Peaches song>Wario's section is dedicated entirely to only Warioware>but also has an out-of-nowhere cameo boss against Red>"Ahah, Luigi is so gullible and got abused by Bowser but he's secretely gay for him. It's not creepy at all because we support the lgbwhatever movement">can't keep too much of a challenge so the actual difficulty spikes like Bowser's types got nerfed>can't even come up with a different elite 4 equivalent for one spot so recycle Peach again>no Polterpup as Luigi's signature mon when it was the easiest thing to doI could go on forever. Looks to me more than just 10%.
>>733233818>>733233975>>733234201That e-celeb was just their sponsor. The real ones were some spics by the name of Kobazco team
>>733234896then spew it all
>Play a romhack>The author obviously hates the shit out of your rival>Intentionally lose a fight against him>The game goes on like he was the loser
>>733232187>rejuvenation>every single major fight is a battle so uphill you it may as well be a puzzle you have to solve using the two entire pc boxes of shitmons the game has deigned to allow you to use on rotation>not even halfway through the game's badges yet>people here and on /vp/ hate it because you have to train more than 6 monsat least i get to use 4 different flavors of palossand haha
>>733232187>>No I don't want to worry about breeding or anything like thatCorrect.I'm not going to pretend I enjoy walking back and forth waiting for rng.
>>733215039i've been hopping between clover & unbound this past month, both pretty good. unbound's writing is rough at times but that's the only negative so far
>>733226013>>733226212>transhitGo back
>>733232187A lot of streamers just want the wackiness of a new gimmick like new types or OC mons, or care about the story no matter how rancid it can be. Youtube's algorithm shoved in my throat the other day a vtuber who played Pokémon Xenoverse and it was the cringiest thing i had seen in a long time.
Is Pokemon Sage still in development?
>>733234896>by having Bowser doing le ebin funny Peaches songand? It's still part of Mario itself. You not liking the movie doesn't change that fact. The entire game is nothing but references to pretty much every Mario game.>but also has an out-of-nowhere cameo boss against RedBecause the entire area was about Wario making a video game based around Pyoro and it glitched out because he's an idiot. It's a fun cameo fight and still has a normal fight with him. I don't see how in any way this is a negative when you are literally doing the equivalent of playing a Warioware game gone wrong.>but he's secretely gay for himAgreed, this stuff was stupid.>can't keep too much of a challengeThat's what Hard Mode and level caps are for. This is supposed to be like a normal Pokemon game and even with level caps and Hard Mode it was outside of postgame where Hypnosis Dream Eater and spamming Full Restores to PP stall was pretty much your only realistic strategy because everything one or two-shot you unless you were willing to devote hours to making some sort of sweep team which is the complete antithesis to the rest of the game.>can't even come up with a different elite 4 equivalent for one spot so recycle Peach againWhich sucks, sure, but it's not the end of the world. Why not complain about Kamek then who you fought like five times up until that point?>no Polterpup as Luigi's signature mon when it was the easiest thing to doLuigi was the equivalent of someone like Wally and wants to use his friends that he gained at the start of the first route to beat Mario, and then he succeeds by being the champion through the power of friendship.You are making mountains out of molehills for most of these and nitpicking to a crazy degree.>>733232187Most of those people typically enjoy the spreadsheet simulator, not the actual Pokemon experience. That's why they're always these "Get the exact ability and item setup or enjoy suffering" deals.
>>733235268No, people hate rejuv because rejuv's difficulty is tied to its ever-present Terrains, and its balance is fucking stupid, worse than its sister (cousin?) fangame Rebirth. The worst offense is that in Rejuv they're impossible to permanently remove.Reborn's fights are puzzles in which you look up which one move a mon you can catch at a 2% rate some five routes ago has a move that completely erases the boss's pre-prepared sweep.Rejuv's fights are countering bullshit with bullshit of your own, if not bigger bullshit.And don't even get me started on bossmons and the shit they pull with shield breaks and 2v1 bullshit.
>>733231158>*proceeds to play gen 3 slop*
Pisces is okay at least
>>733232187Elite Redux focuses entirely on the battles. There are plenty of hacks like the mainline games that care about the story and all that. Complaining about this is autism.
>>733232187>NOOOOOOOOOO STOP PLAYING POKEMON IN A WHAT THAT I DON'T LIKEKys niggerWhy don't you go bully the shiny autists instead? All they're doing is turning pokeshit into a shitty gacha game
>>733235268>defensive Ice-type
>>733232187>I love pokémon!>No I don't want to actually try to catch anythingWrong, I want to catch em all, hence why I play those 1000+ mon hacks>No I don't want to actually level anythingYes, I fucking hate leveling up, hence why I avoid wild encounters and play exclusively on level caps hacks. The moment the official games forced expshare, it's the moment I dropped playing vanillashit forever>No I don't want to play through the storiesYes, I am fucking tired of cutscene cancer. Just let me go from location to location.>No I don't want to do puzzlesI want actual good puzzles like the regi puzzles, not the fucking lt surge gym >puzzle>No I don't want to worry about breeding or anything like thatYes>I just want to see my comp set up team sweepYes, pokemon battles are FUN and I'm still mad that ORAS cut the battle frontierWhat do YOU like about pokemon?
>>733236657A product that's engaging instead of a theme park that holds your hand the entire time might be a good start.
>>733215039This makes sense if you're playing Pokémon purely for smogtism. Easing/eliminating the parts of the game that get in the way of what you actually want to doIf you play Pokémon as a JRPG or a colle game then access to town facilities or easy capture are making the game too easy I agree. I mostly play it as a collection game so 100% CR would be bad for my experience. Sometimes games have a perfect IVs mode or ability change items which totally eliminates a lot of breeding/competitive autism
>>733232187The traditional Pokemon feel and autistically difficult battles cannot co-exist without any lubricant. Skipping catching is a step too far but grinding has always been the most painful part for preparing optimal team members. I grinded out my HGSS Battle Frontier team by looking up which trainers at which time of day on which days of the week will answer your rematch phonecalls, what EVs they give, and how far they are from a Fly point. You can't just talk to them, you have to leave the area every time you beat them. This took hours on top of the hours I spent breeding and fucking with IV calculators and I never want to do it again. I had to keep going after I maxed the EVs to reach Lv 50 because the game is just that stingy with Experience.Now imagine if this team I put hours into turned out to be unviable and I had to start all over. This is the experience of "difficulty" rom hacks without minimized grinding features.There is a reason the modern official games hand you all of this shit on a plate in item form or from a menu
>>733215039The point of this hack is just battling nonestop. You're literally meant to just hit a button to capture everything in a new area, disable encounters, and use what you just unlocked after customizing it to fight everyone.I don't think it's even possible to play it in the standard pokemon way.
>>733215039I don't mind Nature mints or Ability pills or whatever their equivalents are. But only purchasable late in the game, finding a couple here and there (an Adamant Mint or Ability Pill makes for a great quest reward) on the way.That's the kind of QoL I'm down with. That and pressing L to throw a ball quick or pressing R to run quick. More is unnecessary.
>>733237664there is a middle-ground between "no rematches lmao grind wild mons fuck you" and "infinitely reusable rare candy"
Are there any good romhacks for gen 2? And I don't mean the remakes I mean the original Silver/Gold.Kinda wanna replay it with more spice.
>>733220264Noita absolutely benefits from some QoL, like the one that gives you a single hp every time you pick up a gold so that your health doesnt just slowly widdle away and thats how you die every run. Makes the game 100x more enjoyable.
>>733238072>Crystal Clear>Crystal Legacy>Perfect Crystal>Polished Crystal>Quarantine CrystalTake your pick.If you want romhacks then>Black and White 3 - Genesis>Pokemon Prism>Digimon Crystal>Fool's Gold>Pokemon Orange>Pokemon Peridot>Super Gold 97>Gold & Silver 97 Reforged
>>733238072Quarantine Crystal Fools GoldCrystal Clear
>>733238391>>733238427inb4 some /pol/ autist comes sperging about crystal clear
>>733236807>productAh I see, it all makes sense now. Go beat redux Tate and Liza please Mr hardcore cart player
>>733238738Jealousy is a bad sentiment to have, anon.
>>733238391>SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS Crystal Clear with SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS blackwashed johto and SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS discord clique e4 with SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS open world progression by SHOCKSLAYER SHOCKSLAYER PRESENTS >>733238720 by SHOCKSLAYER
>>733215039>That much insane QoLOh so it's a teambuilding simulator but you have to find, catch, IV breed, and EV train every single team for one trainer on Route 3?Fuck that shit, just skip to Pokemon Showdown at that point.
>>733238925Is there another Crystal hack that clears all the roadblocks and lets you start anywhere? Asking genuinely.
>>733239080nobalancing a pokemon game like that is impossible which is why crystal clear is so piss easy
>>733238804What am I jealous of, a guy who can beat the mainline games that I've already beaten, that are balanced around a 6 year old completing reasonably? I don't think you understand why romhacks exist, and I don't think you could beat any of these games which is why you whine about them on the video james board. I'm going to go play some games now, have fun lording the incredible story of ZA and the intense difficulty of Hop Battle #2 though
>>733239151That isn't what I asked. No official Pokemon game is hard. Crystal isn't hard. I'm asking if any other hack does that. If its just Crystal Clear than despite everything it has an important niche.
>>733239152You bothered answering me, so you clearly do care in some manner.
>>733239080There's genuinely one autist that shits his pants at any mention of Crystal Clear and shows up in every romhack thread eventually, don't bother trying to reason with it>>733238983Good thing you don't have to do any of that in this game I guess? Profound retardation
>>733239080The only part of Crystal Clear that isn't easily replicated is the following mons.
I HATE LEVEL CAPS I HATE LEVEL CAPS I HATE LEVEL CAPSEARNING 0 XP FOR WINNING IS SHITIT FEELS BADFUCK YOU IF YOUR GAME HAS LEVEL CAPS
>>733239786Most games let you turn them off, grind autist.
anyone here beaten unbound on expert? this is some real bullshit
>>733239462Crystal was already decompiled. You can implement this feature easily since it's not that hard in coding perspective. Or just open Clear's code and then copy/paste it.
>>733239462I've been looking for a fresh gen 2 hack to play, are there any others that allow custom mon colors? Was a fun feature to play with, slightly off-coloring mons like the nickname mons from Stadium or using shit like the Stadium 2 shiny palettes
>>733240109>Or just open Clear's code and then copy/paste it.Funny that you assume he released his code.
>>733240156Polished Crystal has something similar. I think it's alternate palettes based on DVs. I don't know if there is an option to change them with nicknames.
>>733240395Polished crystal is also easily the best "what if we made the best possible version of crystal" homhack I have ever played.
>>733237932That middle ground was spamming blissey bases in ORAS and it was boring as hell
>>733240810I really like the framework it's based on. The engine changes are all impressive for the targeted hardware. However, I really hate the actual gameplay changes it made.
>>733235808>>733233818Disreguard eceleb wankery from tripfags, enjoy the de-troonified version of the hack from /vp/https://files.catbox.moe/7dkora.gba
>>733241296No way I'm downloading anything from that furfag pedotranny den pal
>>733215039Want pokemon but deeper and more difficult?Play Disgaea
>>733241296unless this is the 2.0 version its completely irellevent and retarded
>>733241991find the original thread, anon even listed the exact value you have to replace with HexManiacAdvance with the exact string to achieve the same effect
>>733239786>he spends so much time fighting wild mons that he actually feels the level capCouldn't be me.
>>733239786earn your wins fair and square instead of overleveling them shitter
>>733216674>highest level Pokemon of the next gym leaderThis is fucking retarded, it should be highest level -10
Why the hell is there no pokemon romhack that gives you a 5th move slot
>>733242414>play with level caps>opponent is always higher level than you>fully EV/IV maxed as welli hate it
>>733219595I don't care, please talk about pokemon elsewhere.Nnobody is interested in some AI beating the first game or how Gamefreak fucked up this week
>>733242451Bro why isn't your charmander level 4 are you trying to cheat against Brock?
>>733242665You can make a thread you'd want to be in any time newfag.
>>733242660yes and? surely are still more intelligent than the retarded trainer AI?
>pick up clover>first gym battle>darude sandstorm starts playing
>>733215039If the point of the romhack is supposed to be an uber hard kaizo hack with a bunch of mechanics to comically over complicate the battles, then those design choices are fine since it clearly doesn't want to balance itself like a normal game.
>>733242889the AI keeps swapping pokemon, stealth rock & double team spamming and one shotting me with gem-buffed attacks I HATE IT
>>733242816go back
>>733243247How are you going to make me? Are you a janitor, faggot?
>>733232187>What do these people actually like about PokémonYou can create you're own sub-communities around some elements from this franchise; such as battling, human characters or just the creatures themselves and I'd be as popular as your average indie game. Because it's that globally huge and it never ends, for better and worse. And that's fine.The main issue is that the "competitive" scene are dominant in the fandom; thanks to TPC promoting it. By that, you often encounter the most dogshit opinions like the very thread here; when it comes to Pokemon as an RPG. The fanbase treating Smogon and other pokepedos as the "savior" of the franchise and what they say is the right direction. Which is why I won't take their "fix" on mons seriously, most of the time they change it's stat based on "stab sweep against dragonite" instead of it's own merits.
>>733243789>The main issue is that the "competitive" scene are dominant in the fandom; thanks to TPC promoting it. By that, you often encounter the most dogshit opinions like the very thread here; when it comes to Pokemon as an RPG.They really shouldn't pander to this scum OR the retarded spiritual fujoshi that want more character-focused garbage (N was a huge mistake and his fans should get shot in the head).That's why Pokémon doesn't get a good mainline game ever.
>>733243789There is no issue to catering to a certain part of the fanbase when it comes to creating fan content, especially when it's making up for something Game Freak won't give them.Just play good hacks.
>>733243789>>733244436>The main issue is that the "competitive" scene are dominant in the fandom; thanks to TPC promoting itOr it could be because the main gameplay of pokemon at its core is about the ability to battle, so of course it’s what’s the main focus. Yea you could do stuff focused on other elements and be successful, but the battling part is what everything surrounds itself with. Complain all you want, but the competitive players have priority
>>733243789>The main issue is that the "competitive" scene are dominant in the fandom; thanks to TPC promoting itOmega kek at this brazen lie. The Pokemon community is filled with casual elitists that despise the strategy elements of the game and especially in the West there’s a lot of people who here turn based RPGs but still play Pokemon because they’re obsessed with the setting.
>>733242451Your other (you) highlighted the problem with this, I've always been more of a>lowest level of the next gym leaderenjoyer
>>733242902I still feel there was a massive loss of joke potential there by not giving Brock the clovermon with Sand Stream. You probably won't connect the dots just hearing the first few second of the BGM, so imagine if>battle starts>Brock's whateverwasit summoned up a sandstorm!>DUDUDUDUDU
>>733245416That joke gets used later for way better payoff
>>733245106>but the competitive players have priorityOf course, bunch of smelly degenerate furfaggots, trannies and their spic sympathizers are the main priority. It's how we got a literal pajeet as the champion in SV.Again, it's alright to be hyperfixate on some stuff here, but don't pretend that it was all about battling. Main priority sure, but the soul of the franchise was always about the creatures themselves. It's why the anime was so popular in the first place, despite being underdelivered at occasion.
>>733244436>That's why Pokémon doesn't get a good mainline game ever.No, it's because Game Freak is a shit company with awful workplace culture.
>>733243789>The main issue is that the "competitive" scene are dominant in the fandom; thanks to TPC promoting it.You mean the smogonites or in general? If it's the latter then you're retarded.>>733245161>casual elitistscmon anon...
>>733235268>>733236126I haven't played Rejuvenation because it's unfinished and if it's anything like Reborn I don't want to put 100+ hours into a game just to be hit with a>end of content wait 2 years for the next 5 minutes of gameplay :)But Reborn was legit a great game. The combats were fun for the most part, save for a handful of bullshit legendary spam in the postgame. The focus on terrains was amazing and I'd love to see more of that so I'm hopeful for whenever Rejuvenation gets finished.Yes, the story was shit but I don't care about that.
>>733247058You never heard of casual elitists? It’s people who think being good at the PvP and discussing the game in that context is against the spirit of the game
>>733215039Eh, auto-heal is whatever after the early game. Saves me some clicks to my lemonades. The rest is too far though. Though if these are all settings than can be changed or accessed in their own cheat menu I don’t see the issue at all.
>>733215039imagine being mad over a single player featurenobody gives a fuck if you beat a hard romhack
>>733215039question: are the new evolutions cool or cringe like Evolved?
>>733223308i'll never understood why they made this board without making it a forced containment boardmeanwhile gacha threads still shit up /vg/
>>733247364i prefer rejuv to reborn but i might be biased since i had to stop playing reborn because of the absolute travesty that is literally any character opening their mouth to say anything
>>733248734Yeah Reborn suffers because of the characters, thankfully the combat made it up for me. You make me hopeful for Rejuv, hopefully it's done before I die.
>>733247392Never because you made that up.
>>733238391What do you recommend if I'm looking to play gen 2 with backported content including newer gen pokemon? Anything like that available? I'm also talking about gen 2 exclusively and not the remakes.
>>733251639>including newer gen pokemon?I don't think any of the hacks do that. FRLG and Emerald are the ones that seem to get those hacks. Thinking about it, I'm not sure if gen 1 even gets those kinds of hacks.
>>733251639Pumping.
>>733246830That's factually wrong given the documentation and e-mails in the last leak. TPCi and Nintendo always cut off Gamefreak and quite literally said "they will buy anyway", and that's where the meme came from.
Are there any good fangames/romhacks that use gen 4 or 5 as a base? Im really tired of the gen 3 look.
>>733226625>Playing Radical Red>Opponent Megas show up as early as Surge>You only get access to them after Silph, which has a Multi-Battle where everyone has a mega except you
What's the name of that rom with cute animu girls instead of pokemon?Or, are there any with good ecchi/ H mechanics?
>>733251639>>733251790What about this one?https://www.pokeharbor.com/2024/12/pokemon-crystal-16-bit/Seems to be that but there are no screenshots. Wonder if anyone played it.
>>733251639Latest version of Polished Crystal has cross-gen evos and regional variants.>>733252662Moemon but there are a decent chunk of them. Same with Touhou Puppet Play AKA Touhoumon.
>>733252662>What's the name of that rom with cute animu girls instead of pokemon?Various Moemon versions, I haven't played one of these in a decade so I couldn't tell you what a good one would be to pick up. There's also Puppet Dance Performance if you want Pokemon but Touhou.>Or, are there any with good ecchi/ H mechanics?Mechanics? No, basically none exist. Art? The answer is still no, honestly.
I liked Odyssey
>>733215039>auto-heal after battle>portable pc>infinite rare candies>infinite pokeballs with 100% rateIt really does feel like these games are made by people who think the worst thing about playing pokemon games is the part when they actually play a pokemon game.
>>733252285No. Well they are, but they are all basically tech demos or difficulty spikes. Turns out working with 3D environments is a lot more work. Maybe you'll see 1 or even 2 in the next 7 years if you are lucky.
>>733252285No, they're pretty much just difficulty overhauls. The gen 4 and 5 games don't have full decomps like gens 1-3 which is why those gens, especially 3, have so many intricate romhacks. They also require way more work in general even if they weren't just that, like gen 5 with its animated sprites.
>>733252837>>733252915Moemon Star Emerald seems good. Regarding mechanics I meant that I wished they played somehow different from an actual Pkmn game but, alas all I can hope is for a rom that change the map a bit although all roms that do that seem to be unfinished/ forever in progress afaik
>>733253567Same shit in WoW.You'd think people that played the same game for 20 years would be both good at the game and motivated to play it, maybe even challenge themselves.Truth is they just want the game to play itself and try to build create their own little skinner boxes.
>>733215039>auto-heal after battleyou will have a million potions after the start regardless>portable pcstopping by the pokemon center is not gameplay>infinite rare candiesok this is stupid, but I get it if there's enforced level caps tied to progress or something like most hacks nowadays do with this shit>infinite pokeballs with 100% ratesovlless, but tossing a million balls at a nigger at 1 HP is also boring
>>733220834Post mega dodrioI love that nigga
>>733215039>auto-heal after battlefucking rom hackers, don't give GF ideas
>>733223993Gachaniggers really do shit on everything they touch
>>733253398I wish I did, game was frontloaded as hell and the EO elements are window dressing.
>>733254396why not?was there any critical battle you have ever lost because you didn't heal properly?and if you are stingy you just run to the nearest PC
>>733254558You can't customize your pokemon nor you as the player. It misses the mark on EO as a whole, it's just your typical romhack in some games cloth. Hell, even Pokemon tried with character customization since XY,
>>733236657>Hates leveling up in a turn-based RPG>Calls having a story "cutscene cancer">Thinks the regi "puzzles" are well designed>Hates breeding in the RPGs with creature raising elements>Mad at the battle frontier being cut despite you needing to engage with breeding and leveling to make a good team>Will play overbloated 1000+ mon hacks for the mere act of grinding catchesIt's unfortunately the most common type of pokemon autism
>>733253567Yeah the most important part definitely isn't beating gym leaders or the evil team bosses or triumphing over the e4, it's grinding wild pidgeys and smoking bug catcher bimmys 3 caterpies with string shot and tackle with my gentle squirtle
>>733229075You will know in 10 days.
>>733256602I'm curious, what are the best features of a Pokémon game to you and which games do it best?
>>733256637>"I don't want to put in the effort to raise my team"inb4 some bullshit about not respecting the player's time because it takes a little over 10 minutes.
>>733256697You lack reading comprehension if that post doesn't make it clear how that anon sees pokemon.
>>733256915Not an answer, provide concrete examples or I will be writing you off as a larper
>>733256854There's a pretty big difference between not minding that and claiming it's the most important aspect of the games.
>>733257285how can you write something off if you can't even read?
it's been like 30 years and romhackers still haven't figured out how to make stuff between gyms or "serious" battles engaging. I guess that's an unfair standard since gamefreak hasn't either
>>733258612Pokemon's battle system is honestly kinda shitty. Too much of the game is designed around 1 or 2-hit kills.
>>733258612Make trainer fights respawn whenever you hit a Pokemon Center. Go a step farther and limit the number of Potions you can carry or purchase at a given time substantially. Make routes long and full of medium difficulty trainers. You don't get Fly until you're near the end of the game, but can run almost anywhere from the start.Congrats, you made Dark Souls 1.
>>733258612I liked Infinite Fusion's fight against the Moltres/Zapdos/Articuno triple fusion.That's the only one I can think of, but it certainly filtered my ass for a good while. Giving the opponent three moves to your one is pretty rough, probably should've been a double battle.
>>733259403You're asking for Enchant Farm.
>>733258612romhacking now mostly caters to youtube and stream slop. Youtube is designed to just feature "highlights" rather than the journey hence the gym leaders, villains and nothing else matters design staying. And streaming slop is just remixed challenge/gimmick mods.
>>733259403You could also make it so you can only go to a center once before visiting another.
>>733215039>gen 1-4 mons>all legendaries catchable>no gay ass roamers>emerald or fire red base>all pokemon catchable>all trade evolutions doable with itemsThis is what i want
>>733252181What are you pumping?
>>733254558I'm sure someone might be disappointed by lack of EO, but I mostly liked the focus on double battles and how they rebalanced some pokemon.
>>733259910ur mum
>>733259403I guess this is sort of in line with my general thoughts. Pokemon's combat only really works vs the cpu when you're going through gauntlets, especially if you can't just item through them. Stadium had the right idea but it's tricky to turn that into an rpg. Properly combining that with the leveling aspect and catching really would take a bit of innovation but nobody has an appetite for that beyond level caps
>>733215039all trainers start at 100% so it's only fair that I should heal after battles
>>733259232Pokemon should have evolved to having a 3 party system, but their insistence on trying to not be like traditional turn-based RPGs means they'll never do that. Especially now, when they've got so many pokemon that rebalancing the game around it would be a nightmare.>>733259403>Limit the number of potions you can carryI've always insisted that you should only be allowed to have 3 items in battle (minus held items) that you have to select out of battle. The X-Items max a stat's multipler out after 3 uses, so if someone was really wanting to pull that strategy off, they'd have to really commit to it.
>>733219595/v/eddit is the containment board, and everyone can tell when one of you vermin posts somewhere else. No one likes you. Thread quality is measured by how similar to /v/ the thread is, and the higher the similarities are, the shittier the thread is.
>>733260409Unrelated, but knowing you only have 3 turns since it's the arena, was Calm Minding there when you know it's the OHKO walrein the best play? Seems bad but I could be wrong. Of course the person in the video had awful luck, but still.
>>733260773definitely not, especially after seeing sheer cold. It's just asking to get screwed
>>733224172i get some sick and twisted enjoyment out of snakewood, it's an awful game but it's oddly unique in that, plus the unused stuff you can find by digging into the code is neat. my autism for it is so strong i've been hacking it myself to use the unused stuff but i've been very slow about actually learning any actual scripting that isn't just replacing sprites or editing trainer teams, gen 3 hacking is old but it still feels like ancient black magic to me.
>>733215039my favorite meme this fuckers do is instead of just fixing a shitty mon they give him a shitty oc variant or mega instead
>>733259403this is Dreamstone Mysteries your first time on any route you have to complete the whole route without going back
>>733229671anti-speedrun too
>>733220053kys cumgarggling faggot
>>733259403>JUST MAKE IT LIKE DA DARK SOVLS XDfrom soft has given the entire gaming industry brain damage
>>733215039This hack revealed to me that team building is really the only thing I like about these games. Therefore this is the only Pokemon game I like.
>>733261173Snakewood is genuinely one of the best romhack there is.
>>733261823It literally results in excellent games. See >>733259481
>>733257350It's not even that hard to raise your pokemon, you dishonest niggerfaggot.>NOOOO I DON'T WANT TO SPEND 5 MIN KILLING RATTATAS TILL REACHED LV 15!!!!
>>733262005It's best you go back to rpg maker threads anon, trying this hard to get people to acknowledge something off-topic is very autistic.
>>733241296QRD?What's wrong with the base game?
>>733262005>Enchant Farm>excellent gameIt's 7/10 at best. The gameplay alone still isn't good enough to carry everything else.
>>733261981i don't even disagree, it's a completely nonsensical game and by the end becomes even more of a mess due to both being obviously unfinished and very obviously cutlerine getting bored of the project so he went meta in the worst way possible, but it has a genuine charm that no other romhack has, especially nowadays. it feels like someone tried to go for a more normal RPG structure in pokemon and it oddly works from basically anything you get earlygame being shit so you're expected to dump pokemon for better ones to the sidequests for some mons like skylax or tea barqan is actually pretty fun. it's obviously aged and aside from the many, many tries others have had in fixing it (which usually ends up like basically every other newer pokemon hack) it gets pretty easy to softlock yourself but it's nowhere near the worst hack ever like a lot of people say.
>>733252662Moemon, but don't play the "Mega" version, for some reason they turned all the battles into doubles.
>>733253567You should try out Tectonic. Doesn't have any of that "qol", while also still having actual qol, and revamped gameplay.
>>733262828NTA but I've been trying to find a Doubles romhack not named Doubles Emerald for a while now.
>>733216121>PROFESSIONAL nuzlockers
>>733216038cultural phenomenon
>>733252303I was really enjoying Radical Red with all the pokemon added and features from later games like the dexnav but in a game that is not designed like shit (region wise)Then it became apparent that I can't just use my team. The little dinky shiny I got? Boxed every boss fight because I have to optimize hard counters like a some hyper negro. There's something to be said about difficulty but I just wanted to play pokemon man
>>733227597>Generation 3 was the only time when legendaries were actually as strong in gameplay as they were hyped up to be in the storyZapdos? Mewtwo? Mew?
>>733215039Personally I'm playing Radical Red, love it but I still think that it's a bit bullshit that they give gym leaders literal fakemon you actually have no way to predict>Sabrina>Actually the Trick Room team>Opens with a fucking dark type Hattrene so you can't use taunt>Also opens with Indeede so you have no counterplay to not OTKing Hattrene At least after her they finally give you access to actual usesful tutors
>>733261518Just like gamefreak with their shitty designs!
>>733241985I really should try Quetzal with the Moemon patch
>>733266405You should.
>>733223974Thanks for the recommendation anon, I'm enjoying it so far. It's not as robust as Elite Redux but it's also not as autistic which is nice. My only complaint is making you play as Red or Leaf, kinda sick of them considering how many FR/LG hacks there already are.
>>733227704I am, and I found a cute shiny on my nuzlocke
>>733267252Are there gen 9 pokemon in this romhack? Base quetzal did
>>733269810yes not everything has a moemon sprite yet though
>mmo cancer (end game is all that matters) is now infecting single player Jrpgs and wrpgs
>>733216121e-celeb faggots taking over nuzlocking was a mistake
>>733215039>auto-heal after battledoesn't ER do this so you arent guts cheesing every battle and have to waste a turn to get the burn up
>>733269887>spoilerDamn shame. How many of them have custom sprites?
I want to get deeper into pokemon clover but I found out I need two matching emulators to transfer a battery save around so now I'm stalled out very early.
>>733270426not sure, so far the only ones without custom sprites ive seen have been wiglett and cyclizar
>>733270087pokemon challenge youtubers are a fucking curse. i like doing stuff like monotypes or nuzlockes (or even casually i end up using a shitmon or two and they usually end up being really fun provided you give them the right tools), but i'd never go full autist mode going for certain ev's or best spots for good pokemon or whatever, that takes all the fun out of it and these faggots are applauded for doing that or cheating in rare candies. fuck them and the absurd stipulations they give their retarded audiences for how to truly do a challenge run of a pokemon game.
>>733268614That's a radiant, not a shiny.>>733269810It's the exact same game (I assume, only have been playing the Moemon patch), but with Moemon sprites for every Pokémon that has a sprite made of it, which is nearly all of them except a few of the newer ones (mostly gen 9, but a few from earlier gens too). From the top of my head, the ones that lack sprites are: Pumpkaboo (not Gourgeist), Aromatisse (not Spritzee), Dottler and Orbettle (not Blipbug), Polteageist (not Sinistea or the matcha variant line), Indeedee, the Lechonk line, Squakabilly, the Wiglett line, Cyclizard and its paradoxes, the Bramblin line and also a bunch of gen 7-9 legendaries that I haven't seen because the way to find them in Quetzal is stupid as fuck. Oh, and also, many variants don't have a sprite made for them but use a placeholder sprite, like the Alolan Diglett line using the regular Diglett sprites, some newer megas and most Gigantamaxes using the base sprite, many of the Furfrou trims using base Furfrou, and some more similar cases.
>>733271036>or even casually i end up using a shitmon or two and they usually end up being really fun provided you give them the right toolsThis is the correct appeal of Pokemon. It's finding some little shitter that you like the way they look, and despite the reality of how they perform, you take them under your wing and raise them to be a Hall of Famer. The highs, the lows, ain't nothing else like it.
>>733271246it's even more fun if the mon has an insane movepool due to tutors, i have my gripes with newer hacks that this thread's already talked about but i'm glad for them putting in newer pokemon so i can give them a whirl without having to play gamefreak's bad games.
>>733215039Do I need to be a competitive autist to enjoy this or can I play like a casual?
>>733272083It's absolutely not for casuals. It has an easy difficulty but even that is considerably harder than vanilla pokemon games
I still don't understand why hacks don't literally always set everything to 31 IVsThere's literally nothing of value lost by removing the need to reset the game dozens of times to make sure I get non-shit starter
>>733272718A lot do give you the option to set IVs at 31 for everythingBeing fair, in the GBA games having all in 31 kinda just gets rid of Hidden Power and reduces Trick Room strats though
>>733272816It's a rare fangame that would actually require you to use Hidden Power as a coverage option instead of just expanding movesets and/or rebalancing moves. I don't give a fuck about doubles which are the only place trick room would be relevant
>>733266143>dark type hattereneDoesn’t it get magic bounce I’m not following what dark type does other than prankster immunity
>>733273398dark type is immune to trickster as well
>>733273495Yes prankster. It’s not immune to just taunting normally unless it has magic bounce, but magic bounce protects from prankster anyway so I’m not understanding why they made it dark type
>>733215039>>infinite rare candiesIf I'm almost out of decent pokemon on a Nuzelock and I only have a lvl 7 spearow and a lvl 12 zubat left in the box I just give up the run. If you can't keep a useful team then you don't deserve the win.
>>733272083I think you can have a good time with it as a casual if you accept that it's going to be very heavily focused on battles and teambuilding; all the enemy teams are going to be solid with items and synergies, but you are still a human that can change things out to get past any hurdles. I really like that just about every mon has some sort of niche, I had a sun team with solrock and sunflora that was a lot of fun, and magneton is an absolute monster. I would say to give it a shot and see if you like it or not, you'll figure out very quickly I'd imagine
>>733262326>the most important feature of the game is killing rattata for 15 minutesWeird mindset but okay, everyone enjoys the games in their own way I guess
>>733272816TRoomers deserve nothing. But also pokemon is so easy you don't need to worry about IVs
>>733258612Random trainers can absolutely smoke your ass in EER though, I don't get it. Surely all you people aren't building strawmen to complain about a game you've never played, right?
>>733262743Nice double standard. People aren't playing any Pokemon game for the story, especially not ROMhacks, as they are putting on 3x emulator speedup to skip past all the story/text and speedrunning straight to the gameplay.Enchant Farm simply cuts the fat and puts the gameplay front and center while offering plenty of challenging modes to make the game as hard as you want, such as Hardcore (finite encounters), Tactical (hard level cap and rolling soft level cap + difficulty increases), Quick (boss-only mode with no trash battles, period), solo running, specific party comp runs, etc. Leveling is manual, so you only level up when you want to rather than having to manage it if you want to keep the challenge higher.It's so many things that people claim to want in Pokemon games/hacks, yet the moment you namedrop it, people go "UHHH BUT NOT LIKE THAT!!!" as if they're allergic to trying something that truly pushes Pokemon's core mechanics to the limit.
For me it's inclement emerald
Any thoughts on Emerald Seaglass? I've been meaning to check it out since it sounds novel
>>733275359I like the pixel art. Mixes being a demake and aesthetic upgrade at the same time well. But it also looks to just be stock Emerald regarding most gameplay and story? So, I guess if you haven't played it in a while....
>>733275359It's alright but I'm not a fan of the white outlines. It's also mostly carried by the aesthetic and the wishing well, I think Modern Emerald is a better Vanilla+ Emerald if that's what you're looking for.
>>733229360Lmao no, these kinds of games are for people who are into autistic minmaxing but are too pussy to handle losing to another human
>>733275269>Nice double standard.I beat the fucking game, it's not a double standard as it's my genuine opinion of it. It's mediocre as shit at best and the gameplay isn't remotely engaging enough to go and play through it all for a second time. Unironically, I've had better times with some straight up Pokemon hacks than this.
>>733215039Well, I've played every other romhack in existence. No reason not to play this one, "qol" or not.
>>733215039QOL only makes sense in extreme hacks like run&bun
I don't give a fuck about any retro rom hacks that add shit like Fairy, Pokemon from later gens, regional forms, or whatever bullshit. It's like every hack now feels the need to do this shit. If I'm playing Crystal, then I want fucking gen 2, etc. If I want the shit from later gens, then I'll play those fucking games.I followed Polished Crystal for a while and it seems like it fell off hard in this regard.
