Yes, you need to read the novels to appreciate the LOREhttps://youtu.be/UcjZq9RWAH8?si=SBMjzeR9eOedq-LZ
man i want to be excited but the gameplay sucks.
Started Infection again last night. Forgot how cute Black Rose is even though she's just as green as Kite.
>>733245696fuck
>>733245861I remember trying it years ago and couldn't get into it, tried again on deck and I thought it would be more outdated, but it's fine
Are they gonna bring back the serial experiments lain vibe?
>>733245887I think I'm gonna emulate the entire set of them
how do you feel about evil lolis?
>>733246591They need data drain correction.
>>733245696I blame her for my love of black girls and great swords
I hope i see it before 2030.I hope it's good.I know, im being too greedy
>>733246591I think we should gatekeep secondaries from them, because Aura had a staggeringly insignificant amount of screen time in the shows and games compared to her conversely significant role in the main plot, and so if gooners are going to be drawn to the new game just for her then we’re honestly better off letting this franchise die.
>>733246881saying all that while black rose had bikini armor is a strange choice
>>733245696her left arm looks fucked up, the hell
>>733245696I watched the prequel anime for the imoq games before I played them and the plot was one of the worst things I have ever seen. The characters and their interactions with each other felt incredibly authentic to an mmo and the music was great. Only reason I got through it. I doubt i will ever try any peice of .hack media that isn't the games after that experience
but mom I wanted another furry game
>>733247779holy filtered retard
>>733246881ZERO will fix previous mistakes and give Evil Aura lots of screentime. Marriage option too.
PREASE DONT BE ACTION GAMEPREASE BE JRPG
>>733245696>Let's do .hack GIRL again>Quantum being a hilarious failure was a fluke!
why is this fag spamming the same image?
>>733245696Back when vitiligo was seen as cute.
>>733246591For some reason I keep thinking her head is way further to the side then it actually is
>>733249223It's confirmed to be an action game, anon.
>>733247779The problem with SIGN that it was a talk anime where nothing happens in a sea of talk anime where nothing happens.Flash forward today?Still a sea of talk anime, infact the anime scene is basically a larger sea of talk anime that is a trope check list with small islands of action oriented series that prints money and gets the most attention. Anyway I digress.The strange thing is they realized why SIGN is shit and have made moves to make the series actually have a modicum of progression.
>>733249536it’s an action rpg, but I dont know what that retard meant by be a jrpg
>>733246591i like feet
>>733249536welp rip bozo another IP bites the dust
>Racism outside of /b/Oof now that's a concession.
>>733249776.hack are action rpgs
>>733249776Don't worry, the gameplay will be based on Souls, meaning it's guaranteed to be a success.
I'm starting to think evil Aura is literally just a physical representation of Morganna to give her a stronger showing as the antagonist. Maybe wholesome loli Aura is her twin.
>>733249776sorry dog but you might be retarded
>>733246591I am a simple manI see EVIL WOMANI stop giving a fuck
>>733246591>more barefoot lolis
>>733250158
>>733250115Kite and Aura are the more interesting characters anyway
>headphonesbugs me when asian mmos do that shit.
>>733247779I liked it, but I went into it for the atmosphere and just as something that I watch an episode or two a day to relax.
>.hack//sign>starts off just about a player trapped in the game world>instead of being mostly about videogamey shlock, it deals with the players emotional state and power dynamics within the digital space>few tidbits of levity and player interactions scattered throughout>sometimes touches on special moments within online communities like encountering a legendary player or witnessing a rare event>end of the show has the cast doing the equivalent of getting out of bounds and finding hidden easter eggs that begin to break down the framework of the game>devolves into metaphysics as the show heads to a climaxgoddamn that show was amazing. Of all of the cross-media IPs out there, .hack will always be the top tier for me. Pokemon was always neat but playing IMOQ at launch when the show was airing fresh was just on another level. Both were ways of exploring and learning more about "the world" which was just so a novel experience. Shame that such a feat will never be topped. Instead we get shonen garbage like SAO or baseline children's shows like pokemon/digimon/yugioh that all deviate heavily from the games so much that they may as well be different IPs.
>>733251039stop being autistic
>>733251597kind of a double-edged sword though. Once the initial hype drew down there wasn't another entry point to bring in new fans. The novelty of discovering the lore gets blunted by your ability to access it. I've been trying to hunt down games, and novels, and other obscure media for this franchise for years before I gave up and decided to just plead to the cc2 gods for a imoq remake and some kind of database where you can actually read the whole story but it never arrived. Atleast with things like digimon or yugioh you dont need to have prerequisite knowledge to understand whats going on from something that released 15-20 years ago. The concept is the same overall and you can still connect with the older fans and get introduced to the legacy shit which is still very accessible. I love dothack but its one of the more difficult niches to get into if you really want to dive into it
>>733246591I don't like that they had to whore her out like that. I guess they need the coomer money to survive and it's the easiest character to milk. I guess that's modern sensibilities to you.
>>733252004It's not autism to want a game to stick to its setting in terms of items.
>>733252085These things exist in japan in spades and are readily available, we are secondary citizens in this franchise unfortunately.You can get all four games over there for <$100 yet you have to open a credit card just to get the BOX of quarantine stateside.
Good order?>//Sign --->IMOQ ----->//legend of the twilight bracelet manga ----->//Roots ----->GU games
>.hack game in 2026That's neat I guess. I think I'd care more if the gap the franchise left hadn't been flooded by countless isekai vomit series over the years that have been given their own games.
has anyone experience with special k? i tried to inject the texture mods for ps button prompts but i keep getting a metal gear sound and crash. some forums said to put steamlog=true or something into the ini to fix it but it didnt fix anything. any tips?
>>733252212the setting is a jap mmo…
>>733252430*game is G.U. remaster
Where is Chiyako Fukuda? Is she alright? Is she... safe?
are there secrets in dothack games?
>>733252329>Implying i watched even a single episode of all that garbage after enjoying .hack.Genre is still fresh to me because i only ever enjoyed hack.
>>733248594
>>733252467A jap mmo that in all previous entries hasn't really identified its character designs as being outside of fantasy. Where the fuck are the gun users, or the guild of retards running around in business suits? Where's the tank in a mech suit?
>It took 11 episodes for the socially inept loser to actually play the game he's trapped in instead of moping about his feelings and avoiding doing group content.>For some reason, it's a Roman Holiday riddle that does this, because the only woman he knows in his life liked that movie.>Episode 12 has the janny team splitting apart.>Episode 13 actually introduces what the fuck is wrong with the world.Those first 10 episodes are useless holy shit
>>733245696lol is that gyaru rei?
>>733252674>Where the fuck are the gun usersyour dual gunner class
>>733252674G.U. has 3 different gun classes
>>733252243>we are secondary citizens in this franchiseFelt that. I agree that it's always been the hardest part of being a fan of this IP. Trying to introduce new people to it is always super hard as well. Do you show them //Sign first, an anime that is 90% dialogue about the nature of loneliness and literally makes the watcher existentially ponder their life? Play the original ps2 quartet and have them think the series is action oriented, if they can even get into the gameplay of running down long halls for 2hrs+ at a time, go to town, read emails, repeat? It's like the creators want it to be as esoteric as possible
>>733252871>literally makes the watcher existentially ponder their life?I'm not getting that whatsoever. All I'm getting is >Damn, all of them seem to be losers.But why are they losers?>Oh, the reason isn't that interesting either.Please God, let the story of Kite be a little less faggoty.
>>733252264I think it's a good idea to play at least vol.1 of GU before watching Roots if I recall correctly. It kind of spoils some stuff.
How are the Another Birth light novels?
>>733251597I've rewatched SIGN recently in the wake of the announcement and I'm honestly surprised how much I enjoyed the show, despite the fact 90% of it is dialogues in pretty much the same 4 scenes. I've seen a lot of people complain it was too slow like >>733252714 but I don't think it would've work without that kind of pacing otherwise.
>>733253061I worry that the reason people want you to watch Sign first is to explain bugs and that the Twilight mcguffin is what cures them.
Just think of SIGN as a really fucking long music video to accompany the OST with some ambient dialogue for atmosphere.
>>733253008I distinctly remember a piece of art in the first one of Blackrose IRL in spats sweaty after playing sports
HOW COME I MUUUST KNOOOOW WHERE AFFECTION NEEDS ME TO GOOOOOHOW COME I MUUUST KNOOOWTHE DIRECTION NOT BE A PEE PEEEEEEUNAMELAAAAAITOO A HEA HEAAAAAADINGO DE LAAAAAAITU A NEV NEEEEEEENA NANA NANANEJE NEENENENENANANANANA NANA NANANEJE NEENENENENANANANAHOW COME I MUUUST KNOOOOW WHERE AFFECTION NEEDS ME TO GOOOOOHOW COME I MUUUST KNOOOWTHE DIRECTION NOT BE A PEE PEEEEEE
>>733252935I am old as dirt and when Sign was first airing on Adult Swim I was going through my big depressive nihilist phase as an aimless young twenty something doing nothing but ten hour sessions of world of Warcraft in between shifts at a Walgreens. I just really resonated with the idea of losing yourself in a game because your reality isn't fulfilling
>>733253260>WHERE AFFECTION NEEDS ME TO GOOOOO...anon, the song is called obsession..
>>733252935>I'm not getting that whatsoeverbecause you don't have an inner monologue nor empathy.Why don't you quit and go play Metaphor or Persona huh kiddo?
>>733253141Picrel
>>733248749black bloomers are a unique choice
Why didnt they remaster IMOQ first??????????????
>>733253141it's to set the tone of tone of "the World" and the general writing style of Sign/Liminality/IMOQ. If you're coming in here expecting pure action or standard formula RPG then you're in the wrong series.For the more open-minded, and expanded mind, you'll find a series like no other here that tackles themes that no other series dared to try with this setting for better or for worse.
>>733249223>>733249698jrpgs are just bad action games
>>733248594not until 2027. trust the plan
>>733253260Come with me in the twilight of a summer night for awhileTell me of a story never ever told in the pastTake me back to the landWhere my yearnings were bornThe key to open the door is in your handNow fly me thereFanatics find their heaven in never ending storming windAuguries of destruction be a lullaby for rebirthConsolations, be thereIn my dreamland to comeThe key to open the door is in your handNow take me thereI believe in fantasies invisible to meIn the land of misery I'm searchin' for the signTo the door of mystery and dignityI'm wandering down, and searchin' down the secret sunCome with me in the twilight of a summer night for awhileTell me of a story never ever told in the pastTake me back to the landWhere my yearnings were bornThe key to open the door is in your handNow take me there to the land of twilight
>>733245696Ok but WHERE can I read the novels?Has Versus been fantranslated?
>>733253260finally some quality posts
>>733246591brat needs correction
>>733253493>remasterThe games need a complete rework to be bearable to zoomers.
>In the land of twilight, under the moon>We dance for the idiotsWhat did Kajiura mean by this?
>>733252674that shit is gay.. call of duty player when he doesnt hear a gunshot in 12 sec
>>733253750>>733253260Open your heartTo eternal dimensionOpen your heartFor love and affectionOpen your heartYour every emotionOpen your heartFor Tears and rejectionCome to the graceOf heaven's eternal fantasyCome to the graceOf earthly devoted harmony
>>733253321FUCK i knew something was wrong
IMOQ>G.U
>>733246881>I think we should gatekeep secondaries from themgatekeep what? it's .hack, the series in general has always filtered normalfags
>>733246989Very few people completely obsessed over female jpegs back then compared to nowIndians ruined the internet, and maybe irl too
OLD MENREPORT IN
>>733254662true. these games is played by weebs
>>733249441Thats paint, stupid
>>733252590In the original 4 games there were some secret areas you could find by watching the included Liminality disks with subtitles on and looking at the back of SIGN dvd boxes. There were also the ghost characters from SIGN you could encounter in town.
>>733255079>some secret areas you could find by watching the included Liminality disks with subtitles onlike , they say an area in the episode and in the game you put the words together and go to that area? if it is so , its do cool
>>733252590I always remember the out of bounds you could do in GU vol.1 in Mac Anu with the bike and the area you could go to that had an enemy you were only supposed to be able to see from vol.2 onward. Even in the remaster collection you could still do it and the enemy's name wouldn't show up properly, but as soon as you got to Vol.2 the Book of 1000 would update and it would show properly
>>733254921ojiisan who started with paper for dungeon mapping
>>733254921Holy shit Shinji is back
>>733255197From what I remember the area words would flash on screen for a few seconds but only if you have subtitles on.
found a comfy dothack website https://lindz.dothack.org/dothack/reminisce/extras_w.php
>>733253534For me, Signs sucks. We're 14 episodes in, and we've entered into the plot of a single Digimon episode stretched over 26.
>>733252264>>733252940Roots started before Volume 1 came out, you can watch the first half of it before starting the games. It ended one day before Volume 2 came out in Japan and massively spoils shit, so you could watch the second half after finishing Volume 1 but most would probably recommend you watch it after finishing 2.
>>733255376oh ok I see, any bonuses in these secret areas?
>>733255197They need to do a marketing campaign or something like that with this game. Maybe do a pseudo live service thing with ingame events where they add more words in patches or they add some new content to an existing area Like imagine if they patched in something like the evil wizards quest from GU after release. Let's them continue to market the game after launch giving fans more shit to do while making it work like a pseudo MMO which is what the series already is
>>733254903? is this a joke or do you have absolutely no idea about otaku culture? but then again, you keep talking about 'gooners' here. not going to keep feeding your ass with (you)s so enjoy this one.
>>733255465It's been a while but iirc there were some items that would permanently increase your stats and even a unique equipment set you couldn't get anywhere else.
>STACCATO >STACCATO
>>733253335I have plenty of empathy. I imagine every apple. I imagine other fruit while I imagine the apple. >Dude, what if the WoW player you ran across has an entire life, what interesting developments could've shaped them into the person they are today?>He's in a wheel chair, and he's mid looking. In the game, he can press W.OH SO DEEPI am EMPATHIZING
>>733255640Ola Repth...............
>>733252329>isekaiNot sure why that should be an issue. Besides a few isolated cases and the AIDA server, .hack has never really been an 'isekai'. It's a cyberpunk series themed around an MMORPG. There's a reason why you're given a desktop as a game menu. You're a player that can log into a game and log off just fine.
>>733245696>>733246591If I knew .hack had cute girls, I would've played it 20 years ago.
>>733254903they're calling this guy the most Clueless Man Alive
>>733255610hes trying to rage bait
>>733255610Are you 12 years old? 'Otaku' referred to super nerds of all kinds, not double digit IQ dickmonkeys who cant think of anything but jerking off.
Alright, now that the initial hype has worn off, I hope this game is coming soon and it's not 3+ years away. The announcement tweet saying "we will begin development on .hack//ZERO" makes me worried. They said it's been in the making for 10 years but that could just mean concept, story, etc while trying to convince Bamco to let them make it and no actual development has started yet.
>>733255841It's quite obvious.
>>733252674GU was very steampunk
>>733255975Man that arm reveal was anticlimactic. I thought it was going to be some badass giant cannon
>>733255640KA-LAMITY
>>733255939Between 'project start' and 'development has started' I'm not very optimistic. Whenever devs say something's been cooking for 10 years its always some BS that means "well we've been thinking about it"
Ouka is in right?
>>733256069imagine it comes half baked
>>733245696Isn't .hack//zero a reboot?
>>733256146new entry
>>733256069I hope it just started, no game that has been in active dev that long has ever turned out good
>>733253493Man, I don't know why I put them in storage after beating them knowing damn well I'd want to play them again and now I can't remember where I put it in storage.
>>733253335>"Yep, I remember when The World used to be good"
>>733256069i still wait for that wild arms and shadow hearts release. they did the kickstarter and it was fairly successful. i just have no idea how development went. but in the case of zero, it wouldnt surprise me if it comes out next year in summer or something. or even earlier.
>>733255939>They said it's been in the making for 10 years but that could just mean concept, story, etc while trying to convince Bamco to let them make it and no actual development has started yet.That is the exact context. Bamco just given them the greenlight to publish this project, and they've been sitting with the concept for a decade.
I miss the techno-celtic style, so unique. GU looked like a fake anime game in the background of a tv show by comparison
>>733256305I know at least one of those got major fucked by their publisher recently
best news is that bamco doesnt have a hand in this, thank god
Blackrose my beloved
>>733256041>the giant arm is Corbenk, and it also turns out it's the real tri-edge>anti-climaticHuh?
>>733237162.hack// is hard shonen, you fucking faggot. JJKfags cannot READ which is a REQUIREMENT for .hack//. You and they are FILTERED, and that is why you are mad. Cope and seethe.
>>733256758iirc the giant arm was AIDA that he infected himself with
>>733255708>I imagine every apple.Imagine using this as your reference point for brain functionality. You sad, strange little man.
>>733256447oh no..was it wild arms? you know what happened?
>>733257105it was pennyblood some weird shit is happening with the publisher
>>733257105I think Armed Fantasia is still updating, but Penny Blood pretty much came out and said they are fucked since some third party handled the kickstarter and that third party never transferred them the funds. I don't know how Armed Fantasia is still carrying on.
>>733245696the lore sucks cock tho
>>733257265>third party never transferred them the fundsThere is apparently a lawsuit going against that scammer, Ben Judd. But yeah, Penny is done. I had more hopes of them delivering a good Shadow Hearts than a proper Wild Hearts, considering the slop that 4 and 5 has been.
Any good .hack retrospectives I can watch now so I can pretend to be a long time fan when the new game comes out?
>>733247129It's just an in-game glitch.
>>733245696Fuck this game and their Japanese exclusive multimedia tie-ins.
what do you want to see in .hack//Z.E.R.O.?for me:>changing clothes/equipments>diverse areas>better dungeon>diverse dungeons>dungeons must be shorter
>>733245696I hope my wife makes an appearance
>>733257528Sexy furry girls that are actually part of your party this time instead of faggots like Gaspard
kinda nice to see how the Zero announcement blew up. bunch of views on youtube and nip media. many sleeper ojisans
jumped back into my save (in the middle of outbreak). going to try and beat this shit finally. the only thing pulling me through is the story, email convos, and unlocking bgm and art for my desktop.
>>733257528>dungeons must be shorterDungeon lengths were fine imo in GU
>>733257528it'd be nice to play as different characters and classes other than twin blade.
>>733256074SEX ON ASS
>huge dot hack fan excited to play imoq for the first time.jpg
>>733257775I took a break exactly there too actually. Got my save from last march, in the middle of Mia being a fucking psycho scene. going from Infection>Outbreak in one shot is a mistake, its not bad to take a break after mutation i think.
>>733257528Good gameplay is all I'm asking for
:p
>>733257915:p :p
>>733257771Yeah, I'm surprised at how many .hack fans there were out there since it seemed like Last Recode bombed
Problem, Kitefags?
choose. when is /v/ playing this together?>>733257889i just watched that scene while refreshing my memory on the story, so it was funny seeing psycho mia in the threads.
>>733257889>taking breaksChump. 12 year old me marathoned all 4 games during Summer vacation 2004. I wouldn't have the patience for this as an adult.
>>733258010thats my goat right there
>>733257775>Wallpaper >neurons fire, wallpaper engine .hack >there's one Am I crazy enough to go through every hack game and learn how to upscale and animate menus just so I have have 2000s asthetic anime girls.
>>733258342Alkaid best girl.
>>733258124IU would fucking kill for a /v/ Fragment run.Are those mmo monthly boys doing it again soon?
>>733258342Why did Elk turn gay?
>>733256905I think you're self inserting into the show too much.>Acne ridden loser with nothing going on in his life, can't speak to women and avoids all social interactions.I'm sorry I don't empathize with your self-insert.
>>733258124WavemasterI always play a backline unit in MMOs, either as a healslut or mage or derivative because I just can't keep up with my frame drops.
>>733257840I feel this can go either way. He could be a sort of Adept Rogue like Haseo, to excuse the fact that he can use different weapons that offer some variety, but I could also see the MC being able to use just twin blades and the game leaning more on party management like the original series.>>733257528A robust combat system; multiple root towns; more hidden areas; special events, and that they manage to recapture the sense of mystery of the original series.
>>733258417>>733258417Because GU is fucking gay. Seriously, the Mia/Elk story line devolution alone makes me hate that game.>>733258454I think you're retarded.
>>733258124There's a timeline when 'The World' was a real mmo with good vr and it was global phenomenon. But instead I'm in this shithole
>>733258417Always was
>>733249223its almost funny how many people have made their reality over a silly memeits like the "niggas in a row" resonated with them too much and they start saying stupid shit
>>733258390Based. I wish the game had more quests when you hang out with her before they put her in a coma.
I'm looking forward to this, but I'm also sad that this means there will never be a remake of the original games. I mean it was never gonna happen either way, but now I can't lie to myself anymore.
>>733245696That's not a child
>>733257528Being able to swap characters in combat, let me play a mage.
>a new generation of players are going to have to actually fight a Skeith equivalent againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgrzu8bFpfE
>>733258010All he was really good for was being an Epitaph User. He was actually pretty incompetent outside of that.
>>733258903None of these were canon. It's just shit BoA made up.
I never played past infection, but I enjoyed it a lot despite how repetitive it was. All I hear about the games that followed is that they were all the exact same. Is it really that egregious? My autism prevents me from skipping to G.U.
>>733258124
>>733245696I've already read the books and watched the anime, but I'm not interested in going thru this again.
>>733253493These games were fucking great
>>733246591Can they please get rid of the barefoot loli cliche? It has become an eyesore lately. Aura, Emily from Resident Evil, and that stupid robot loli twat. Am I missing any other? This has become an automatic trash cliche.
>>733258124What class is good. I think i went with an axeguy once.
>>733257889how long are these games anyway? 40 hours? 50?
>>733246591How much giantess art will Aura get? She's in a digital world as its most powerful being she could become giantess size if she felt like it.
honestly it's better to treat r1 like a menu based game where you play a support character more than a main damage dealer til you get the proper drops and skills. i've seen too many people try to jump in like it's action rpg but clunkier than R2, and it always ends with them feeling miserable; shit's gotta be treated more like a rapid equivalent to games like FFXI than any sort of smooth action.
>>733258397mention it in the next mmo thread you see. i will 100% be down to play that when it happens.
>>733258124im playing monk or fighter
>>733258124I played Blademaster the last time /v/ decided to fuck around with this. It was comfy.
>>733255049It's actually my semen.
>>733246881You don't need to worry. The Hack brand has never been popular. The gameplay has always been shoddy and worse than Tales Of action RPG style games. And the story is divisive. I'm not seeing this brand magically selling grandiose by default.Real life has shown the limits of VR entertainment which Hack relies upon as its gimmick so I don't think there's much of a draw here especially after Sword Art Online drained this gimmick until there was no more profit to get. There's really no reason to hope for this game to succeed especially since the Hack brand commits one of gaming's biggest sins, its NOT easy to get into for a newcomer. You can convince a new gamer to play things like Castlevania games but you're not going to convince someone to play the original series, watch the OVAs, and then do the same for the follow up series of Hack. That is a big investment. Especially when the games themselves aren't really that good to play. But enough said. Hack does a natural good job of filtering most people out.
>>733259068Original IMOQ are basically just 1 game broken up into parts so they don't change much. Just be glad they're really short. Sadly the games did peak with infection a bit but still had some really good kino moments in the later parts. The gameplay isn't for everyone and even hardcore fans will admit its not good or needs some improvement. If you're not into old school dungeon crawlers with clunky action combat though then these games won't be for you.GU is a major improvement and plays way better but the story is more battle shounen.
>>733252174The original Aura was also coomer bait. Come on its an Asian game female characters exist more for masturbation than anything else. And its better than the alternative do you want western freaks to touch this franchise?
Now that we know they have been working on this game in one way or another for the last ten years, I wonder if the girl in pic related has anything to do with ZERO. Her armor kinda looks similar to the one the new Black Rose is wearing, so maybe she was a prototype? Who know. I say this because Matsuyama teased Haseo's new form for Vol.4 twice before they even revealed Last Recode, so I wouldn't be surprised if this was a teaser for ZERO.
>>733259924>The original Aura was also coomer bait.???
>>733260010>Matsuyama teased Haseo's new form for Vol.4 twice before they even revealed Last RecodePic related.
>>733245696>26 novelsFuark, I only own the 2 AI Busters...
>>733259924>The original Aura was also coomer bait.How dare you!
Wonder if the new Kite will be able to transform.
>>733245696>CC2 has been working on Z.E.R.O. for about 10 years>Bandai knew this>Bandai still allowed the dothack web domain expire and some autist bought it
>Kite was the one who defeated the original Eight Phases. >Azure Kite is completely inadequate for fighting Epitaph Users
>>733260010>left picwas he hinting at a character that wouldn't be revealed for years?
>>733260246I think you're just mentally fucked and trying to pin that on someone else at fault, 's all.
>>733260237>CC2 has been working on Z.E.R.O. for about 10 yearsNo. I'm pretty sure they've been trying to get .hack back from Bamco for those 10 years.
This makes me want to pick up IMOQ again and finish them. I stopped halfway through Outbreak.Mistral a cute.
>>733260297He lacks the indomitable human spirit that the original Kite had. Or maybe it's the autism.
>>733260334Last Recode already hinted something was going on behind the scenes. I just don't think CC2 realized it would take almost a decade to get to the point where they could announce it.I imagine it took years to sort out a deal with Bamco.
>>733260010>Her armor kinda looks similar to the one the new Black Rose is wearingI can see it.
>>733260297It's not the real Kite and doesn't have the ability to level scale to the degree of an active player.R:2 Aura didn't a patchwork job on the Azure Knights and it shows.
>>733260427Cute perky mom. :D
>>733260334>been in John Hack's head for 10 yearsLikely GULR was gonna be a hypebuilder for a new entry but they couldn't do it for whatever reason. how sad
>Descendents of Fianna>Balmung of the Azure Sky>Orca of the Azure Sea>.hack//G.U. happens>Kite is clearly meant to be "Kite of the Azure Flame">It's just shortened to "Azure Kite">"Guardian of the Azure Flame" just becomes "Azure Flame God">Henceforth, the "[Name] of the Azure [Noun]" naming convention is completely lost.>"Azure Balmung" and "Azure Orca" are now the norm>In Guilty Dragon, "Pursuer of the Azure Flame" is just "Azure Flame Pursuer"I hate this so much. I've hated it since forever.
>>733260063she isn't wearing anything beneath that cape>>733260447is she wearing a thong? not even the original BR showed that much skin
>>733260427She's such a fun character. I always find the moment when she stopped playing the game to care for her baby to be incredibly bittersweet.
>>733246591The most boring archetype of anime character.
>>733260683>is she wearing a thong?Looks more like short shorts or compression shorts.>not even the original BR showed that much skinThat's because OG BR and Mimiru had pantyhose and those hit other kinks. And the she got some ZR in LINK with a miniskirt thanks to losing the loincloth.
>>733248749Hope she's still 135 cm tall.
>>733260923>all the characters from Signs are unimportant trash>Skeith>Morganna>Helba>Sora>Macha>Tsukasa
>>733260246Nah, you are reaching. There was nothing sexualized about IMOQ Aura. Here she's basically a giant billboard saying WE HAVE EVIL LOLI FEET HERE BUY THE GAME NOW because that's the only thing that's gonna bring in sales.
i scanned through a bit of this manga (been more than a decade since i read it last) and it's like walking down memory lane for my dick.
>>733260401Bamco still 100% owns .hack. They're only allowing CC2 to make a new game since CC2 is fully funding it themselves.
What Kite accomplished was more impressive than Haseo. In Kite's time, no one really had all the answers. The system administrator was just as in the dark as he was about a lot of things, and even Helba only had so many answers. And although the bracelet gave Kite's PC a lot of protections, it didn't raise his performance in any meaningful way the way Avatars did for Epitaph Users. Kite had to git gud really fast in order to survive. In the united front with Helba and Lios, he was functionally their equal, not taking orders from them and even taking charge at times when he needed to. This is why even in a post G.U. world with Avatars and shit, Kite is still a legend. Haseo floundered for four months unable to make any headway into his investigation regarding Shino's coma. His investigation skills were lacking so all he could ever do was get led by the nose by Ovan. He wasn't smart enough to formulate any strategies and was heavily reliant on his Avatar for pretty much everything.
Why did they make Kite a girl ?
>>733261394God, I hate Bamco so much.Namco was alright before Bandai merged with it.
>>733246591I kneel, my Mistress (only if she's flat with a large ass or a loli)
>>733261568it's not him
>>733261574They can't just give .hack to CC2 because CC2 was only responsible for a fraction of it. A bunch of different companies and entities have a stake in it. CC2, for instance, played absolutely no part in the production of .hack//SIGN or .hack//Liminality. Giving .hack to CC2 would mean giving them ownership of a bunch of shit that they had nothing to do with.
>>733261374>Mireille, Mistral's daughter is canonically 4 years old during Dusk.
>>733261371Aura has pretty much always been barefoot. You guys are just weirdos that think feet being visible instantly means it's some fetish thing
>>733256852Anon, that AIDA was Corbenik, the rebirth.
>>733262004>looks like a turkey basterI can't unsee it.
>>733258903>Tfw remembering my first time fighting and seeing skeith at like 1 in the morning 15 or so years agoGod I want to replay the games so bad
>>733261726wait that's her on the left?? what the fuck..
>>733262119>>733261726whoops wrong image!
>>733261394Fuck, man, I hope CC2 blows them away with this
>>733260716yet another generation of children will be redpilled by her>>733261062>Looks more like short shorts or compression shortsyou can very clearly see her black thong beneath her loincloth in picrelwhich is incredibly surprising considering CodeVein 2 isnt even allowed to show panties now
>>733262170Mistral is a completely normal, responsible if somewhat mousy woman outside of the game, yeah. She and BlackRose actually meet in real life and hit it off well.
Reminder that CC2 was only really responsible for like 30% of .hack. They have no claim to 100% ownership of the entire IP.
>>733245696wait what, new dot hack?!
i'm starting to think it's not even Aura at all
Dot hack has lore?
>>733262357oh wait you meant mirelle, also yeah fuck logic, Legend of the Twilight Bracelet was already doing absurd teen genius bullshit before G.U. was ready to
>>733262404It's an AU Aura. This whole thing is AU. An alternate timeline. None of the previous games or shows happened here, it's a fresh start.
>>733262404It's DarkAura obviously.
>>733262170Yep, Mistral gave her player character to her as a gift. Ouka (the wolf girl who is the girl with the glasses in that pic) is her tutor btw.
>Tfw fighting Corbenik in Quarantine>3 phases>Last one is just eyes
>>733262436brainlet zoomer
I don't think people realize just how big of a deal it is for Bamco to let CC2 self publish it. Yes. It means that CC2 is 100% responsible for everything from marketing to publishing and the cost if the game fails, but it also means that Bamco can't step in and go "You can't do that." or "We need the game to ship out by this time."CC2 can do whatever they want and they can ship the game when they feel good and ready. You just need to look at what happened to Tri-ace, especially with SO5, to realize how bad publishers can be.
>>733262001Foot fetish wasn't as mainstream 20 years ago. It's basically the most accessible safe horny shit these days.
>>733262558>CC2 can do whatever they wantDamn so we're getting more furry tits
>>733262489Also Hotaru is actually a boy irl.
>>733262558CC2 was never fully responsible for the series though. In fact, one could say that a lot of the later dumb story decisions were mostly CC2's fault. A lot of what made the earlier Project .hack special actually came from the Bandai side of things, or from freelance writers. CC2 had almost nothing to do with .hack//SIGN, for instance.If anything, I'm a bit worried if CC2 really does have 100% control over the series going forward.
>>733262680>>733262558Give me a playable big bara (and furry bara one as well for the furfags) while you're at it.
>>733262604>Foot fetish wasn't as mainstream 20 years ago.Literally any Quentin Tarantino film proves that false
>>733262754Sign was dogshit tho
>>733262792Fuck off, you get more than enough giant fag furries in games, CC2 is one of the few that does the ladies.
>>733262105And he impales skeith all the way up its ass with it and data drains him like a turkey.
>>733262489nice art! manga like legend of the twilight and negima were a blessing for 10yo me. fun magical action and a harem of cute girls.
>>733262754I don't think they have 100% control forever because if that was the case then Bamco would have just sold the rights to them. I think they have a deal with Bamco for probably this game and probably a TV Anime/Movie that will probably be done by CC2's new production studio.I imagine if the game does well then Bamco and CC2 will discuss doing the same for a sequel.
>>733262728Well yeah. That's a male Wavemaster Avatar. See how it's based off of the same basic blueprint as Tsukasa and Elk? R:1 era Wavemasters:>Young Male: Tsukasa, Elk, Kazu, Hotaru, Reki>Adult Male: Wiseman>Young Female: Mistral>Adult Female (bikini style): Helba, Hokuto>Adult Female (robe style): B.T.
>>733262402Hell yeahCan you believe it?
>>733262912I'm just worried because it's obvious that they need tardwranglers to keep them in check. Matsuyama has an obsession with shonen manga, and this obsession is what led to things blowing out of control starting with G.U. and eventually leading into escalation and ridiculous developments like in Link.
wtf bros
>>733245696every time someone mentions this series, I remember that it's been almost 30 years and we still don't have a VRMMO
>>733263045And a winner in the net will always be a loser in real life.It's a known fact since ancient times.
>>733263045She's not wrong, but I don't mind being a loser
Problem Haseofags?
>>733263045mimiru...
I like to think there's a deranged German guy's spirit hidden away in the code of every MMO
Thinking about how they are going to handle online culture and how the localizers will insert awful reddit/blusky memes makes me sick. Also, after replaying through the entire series, I realized .hack is mostly built on amazing ideas, yet awful execution. The cutscenes were always a spectacle, but the plot was insanely convoluted initially, then in GU it simplifies but trades the mystery and intrigue for something more over the top and overtly anime. .hack had a sort of sweet spot in being an ARG before those were a thing. You're playing in an online urban legend/creepy pasta, and they built the narrative around that with all the accompanied news articles and forum posts. This was lost moving into GU, but the story felt a lot more "complete" in GU and the characters a lot more fleshed out and enjoyable.Beyond all this, the art direction for the new game looks rough. They were already abandoning the high fantasy bit in GU. Now they look to be going almost SAO style with a lot of over designed elements and out of place modern tech. I dunno. As somebody that holds the series near and dear to my heart even with its major flaws, this trailer does not inspire a ton of confidence.
>>733250115>Morganna to give her a stronger showing as the antagonistOr give her a showing in general. I can't remember her actually doing or saying anything at all in the original games besides sending her minions after you
>>7332632021- say that to esport players/ethots with millions in the bank2- somehow we lose in both>>733263264how come both of his avatars have wide hips?
REEEEEEN GEKIIIIIIARMOR PIERCE!SPARROW COUNTER!TRI STRIKE!REAPER'S TOUCH!
So is Kazunori Itō still writing for this new entry?Or at least in a supervision role like he was for GU?
>>733263361younger party members will call you unc
>>733263497he's zesty
>>733263045N-nuh-uh!
>>733262818His style of directing was called anything BUT normal and widely palatable. And he did it because it was his own thing, not to pander to a barely existing at the time audience. That's the difference. Right now feet fanservice isn't niche, it's literally everywhere, it's a staple of eastern mass-appeal character design and it attracts people who will buy any piece of media containing it.
>>733263503I love Alkaid.
>>733263594Oh man... you already know. They'll be throwing in every meme of the now and it'll be painfully outdated by the time of release. 67 will be in there... it's gonna be a painful game to play through if you care about the forum content..
>>733263691>it's literally everywhere,Where besides capcom games and china (who have always been footfags)
Wonder if Sadamoto will return to draw the cover again.
Redpill me on .hack /v/, I seen it around for years but don't know anything about it. How does it play? What is it even about?>>733246591Never mind, I will now play your game.
>>733263264How should an AU Sora>Haseo development be handled?
>>733263734man she was the candy of my apple back in the day
>Everyone's completely latched onto the idea that the old guy and the young character are one and the sameSo how convinced are you people that this is actually what's happening?
It's weird they remastered the sequel, how's a dumb bitch like me that only played like 5 minutes of the first game when it first came out meant to catch up on the overall story or is the G.U. remaster good for that
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>>733263478Supposedly Corbenik's 3rd form in IMOQ is actually Morganna taking direct control, though that's never stated in-game.
>>733263870I'd just think it'd be funny in a very meta way the chunni looking MC is actually an old man trying to keep "cool" with how the kids dress these days,But there's no way CC2 is gonna pull that off
>>733263523They didn't mention who the writer will be in the credits at the end of the reveal trailer, so we don't know. >>733263361>for something more over the top and overtly animeThat's Matsuyama's taste in storytelling, sadly. He loves shonen action stories.
>>733263734>>733263820she was the reason I developed a brown girl fetish
>>733263965Not with Matsuyama as producer anyway.
>>733263976
>>733263503BONE DUSTHELL FIREMYSTIC MOONDEMON'S REACH
>>733263870I don't think it would be a bad idea. There is multiple cases within the series where the person's reality doesn't match up with who they present themselves as online. I also think the detective/investigator angle would be really neat since the game is going to have real world sequences which they said are going to be like an ADV.It's just people looking at what was presented to us and most of what was presented to us was concept art of the detective and his partner along with the fact that the detective concept art was placed on the same spread as Not-Kite.
How do I actually enjoy GU? Should I be doing random side shit? Ignoring it entirely? Using a guide?
>>733263819Multi-media project that capitalized on the early internet culture and MMO's being a huge deal.Like I said above, it's a series with amazing ideas, but lackluster execution. As for how it plays, the initial four games feel a bit like the og PSO but you need to be a big dungeon crawler fan to play them as that is the entirety of the gameplay. GU gears the series more into a Tales like arpg, but it can be painfully easy when you figure out how to cancel your attacks.As a whole, the series is like... a 4/10. It has an incredible concept, and amazing art direction, and a incredible ost across the media... but the gameplay and stories....
Bros why is Data Drain the coolest shit ever?
>>733251597I think sign was the first anime to actually get me thinking about deeper about the people I interact with online. Also amusing pic related got completely fucked even moreso than Tsukasa but no one was aware of it and the anime just ends.
>>733264115It's not about whether you want it to happen. I'm just wondering if people aren't just setting themselves up for disappointment.
isnt cyberconnect2 like a complete kusoge dumpster fire dev
Blademaster is the only cool class all other classes are gay
>>733263870Obviously the old guy is the Blackrose knockoff
>>733264226They got stuck in the Anime 3D Arena Fighter mines for years, they've finally dragged themselves out to make a good game again
>>733264121Idk, just play it.
>>733263965Like I said, it was a mixed bag. In IMOQ it felt like you were a random player drawn into an urban legend completely by chance. That was a much more engaging concept... problem is, M and O were complete filler and could have been completely done away with and a majority of the characters were insanely forgettable in those games.Meanwhile, the GU trilogy went full anime and you felt like the chosen one which felt completely at odds with Sign and IMOQ, but the character writing and story felt much better and had genuinely nice payoffs. The school scene with Atoli will always be memorable in my mind.
What was Morganna's problem
>>733264226No. It's just that all they have done for the past decade is Fuga and Licensed anime games most of which are Arena fighters and fuck anime Arena fighters.
>>733264367Mom that was jealous of her much younger daughter.
>>733252590GU has the doppelganger gear
kino
>>733264226their action games and arena fighters are pure slop with well animate cutscene, but their RPGs are legitimately good
>>733264412Oh shit I forgot all about the doppelganger
>>733264367>made and comprehend that you exist>oh wait you only exist to create the conditions for another AI to be made, and you'll be auto-erased when the procedure is doneyeah i'd be mad too
>>733264121Enjoy it more as a movie with filler gameplay or don't enjoy it at all. It's got some very basic gameplay (somehow even less satisfying than IMOQ), but it's servicable as a weird VN, Anime movie with inoffensive gameplay. It's not gonna be the most fun to play, but one thing to keep in mind is that it was a series that you were supposed to beat one entry then wait a year for the next (ie: giving you a break on the monotonous gameplay). It's hard to experience it how it was meant to be now of days, but wether that's an excuse for the game or not is up on the air.
>>733263905do what i did 20 years ago, play infection, get bored after an hour for no reason, skip to GU, love it, then supplement knowledge through the animes and wiki deep dives
>>733264324>I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT ME>NO ONE EVER SEES ME
>>733264479yeah shit was crazy>gear that makes it so you MP before HP, on top of a passive HP/MP regen
I realize now that this is probably the biggest budget original project that CC2 has done since Asura's Wrath so 14 years. I'm pretty sure Fuga was made on a shoestring budget.
>>733264226I'm pretty sure the Demon Slayer game they made sold millions and was pretty well received
>>733263756All the anime games do it. Even non-anime games like fromshit have it. Did you know even mahjong games have foot fetish content these days? Those games don't even HAVE player models aside from arms.>china (who have always been footfags)How many chinese games have you played in 2004? Are you going to imply that gacha art and fan art don't both dictate and closely follow the majority of eastern anime art trends? Times have changed and marketing meta has changed with it. So now we have msgk Aura to bring the money in. It's just how it is.
>loved PSO as a kid even though I only played it after the servers were shut down>still dumped hundreds of hours into it with friends via local co-op>we also loved .hack and played IMOQ day one as each game came out>didn't realize it as a kid but I really loved the aesthetic and art direction of these games>find out as an adult that .hack was purposefully designed to evoke the same vibes that PSO gave with it's art directionincredibly impressive that they accomplished that. What I wouldn't give for more games that mimicked this aesthetic.
>>733264367Version"It became self-aware and realized that, once its role was complete, it wouldn't have a reason to exist anymore; this is why it tried to stop Aura from awakening during SIGN. It was a case of self-preservation that spiraled out of control.
>>733264639She was an insanely well written character:>comes off as weird and annoying from the get go>feel very similar to Haseo about her>later it's revealed she's bullied horribly and it has led her to latch onto the online world>the real one>all of a sudden, all of her weird and annoying quirks make sense>immediately feel awful for her I actually perfer the way the Trilogy movie handled it over the game even though they are both really good. Also, her crashing out on Haseo in part 4 after he was living with Pi was completely justified.
>>733263361yeah I love the roleplay immersion aspects like the altimitOS desktop and the news feed. The secret sauce is the fact that even the game itself is just a piece of the whole story. So it leaves some things open for other media to delve into. Honestly disappointed we aren't getting a remake of the original games. Why do GU and leave the core story to gather more dust?
>>733264060>>733263503
>>733264410>>733264501>>733264805And Cubia existed just because the braclet existed right?
>>733264832Eh, she was a shit waifu choice anyway, now Alkaid...
Episode 17 was my favourite of SIGN so far.
>>733264717>Fromsoft Miyazaki's personal fetish like Tarantino but by your own logic it shouldn't appeal because he panders to no one but himself.>How many chinese games have you played in 2004?I'm not talking about games. I mean their entire culture, they created a whole method to force women to have dainty feethttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding
>>733264912alkaidfags still trying to stir shit up even now. glad that hasn't changed
>>733263361I think I would love something between .hack//sign and Sword Art Online (abridged). If a real malevolent AI just spawned in some virtual game world and it could potential trap/torture you through the game you'd still have a large swath of people run up to it just to call it nigger just to see if it was real, similar to how people say IRL say Bloody Mary into the mirror.
The issue with .hack is that The World is a closed system. Once you solve its mysteries, that's it. So for later games, it becomes necessary to add new factors to serve as escalating factors. In .hack//G.U., it was AIDA, but AIDA ended up being very simple: they were just naturally forming AI clusters that got corrupted by malignant information in The World. In order to create a larger and ongoing narrative, something larger and more complex was needed. That's why they came up with mama, but this obviously ended up being a bad idea.
I like dot hack
>>733246591you should kill yourself
>You don't understand, there's so much empathy required to listen and understand what characters are going through...>What if BLT... Was... BT...
>>733264912>Alkaidniggers still starting shit like 20 years laterYou lost
>>733257889>>733258124Kek I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that got pseudo-filtered with Outbreak. Funnily enough when I originally played the games my family bought Infection, rented Mutation (but never beat it IIRC), then bought Outbreak. I remember beating Outbreak back then but by that time Quarantine was already rare as hell and no way was I gonna be able to convince my Dad to pay 80+ bucks for a game.The same shit happened to me with G.U. as well. Could only ever find Vol 1 and 3 so the entire middle part with Alkaid is just unknown to me kek.
>vivid memories of being a teenager, awake at 1am browsing the internet, hearing the SIGN into song playing in the background as adult swim reran it in the middle of the nightsuch a satisfying intro, that really was the golden age of video games and anime
>>733265060Do you still collect Digimon cards Wiseman?
Who is Keith and why does a Japanese teenager scream his name whenever he plays some VR game?
i'd be a long arm because spears are cool, simple as
>>733265050They had the capability to do something more natural, like, well, the problems of net information getting spread among other people and data stealing. A stalker, a murderer, someone actually going after players for real, or CC Corp steals player data for selling off to someone shady and then those shady folks start harassing players, etc. Instead they did the equivalent of jumping from their internalized mysteries about AI and data, to secret terrorist conspiracies the FBI can't even stop and turning real people into data.
>>733265050>That's why they came up with mama, but this obviously ended up being a bad idea.>You know how this series about online and internet interaction should go?>Lets say an eco terrorist neo feminist group was behind it all!That's not even jumping the shark that's like doing a triple somersault while blindfolded and wearing rocket skates
>>733265172I just post Yeats poetry on MMO forums
>>733265212Yeah but that's not really escalation, I think. Ultimately, there was no real means to organically "one-up" what happened in the original games. The true purpose of .hack was to explore the mysteries of this world created by Harald. Once those mysteries were solved, even Aura became unnecessary.
IMOQ had the better music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RfJjSEO9eg&list=RD8RfJjSEO9eg
>>733245696I still love the song obsession
>>733264865Yeah, I just don't have a ton of faith in them pulling this off, and if they somehow magically do, you've gotta deal with the localizers adding "flavor"..hack was a product of the times and it's identity was always in flux after IMOQ. It had its small ups, and massive downs. I suppose if they were going to make a new one they really should abandon the MMO setting all together and instead embrace something like VRchat with hints of code from the MMO, but even that sounds bad to me. There's a really weird mix of what's happening now, as well as theorizing what's going to happen 10 years from now in the setting of .hack. But I guess we'll see what they deliver. Also, I got a review I did somewhere of IMOQ. I'll post it for people interested in getting into the series if I can find it as it has some gameplay tips and its easier to listen to than reading a whole novel.
>>733262489The extent to which they sexed up Rena in all the official artwork for this is a little crazy in hindsight
>>733265075The greater point of .hack//SIGN wasn't about solving the mysteries of The World. It was just to showcase what some of the players of this game are like. The characters themselves are the point. In reality, .hack//SIGN is pretty unnecessary to understanding the story. Even the thing with Tsukasa was ultimately not that important since the games were written to be understood without requiring outside reading.The mysteries were never really the point of the show. Almost nothing that happens in .hack//SIGN really matter. If the show was supposed to have a point, if everything was supposed to lead into something else, then characters like Mimiru and B.T. wouldn't even exist.
>>733265008>>733265126Not an alkaidfag, actually I like Pi, but alkaid is worth 1000 atolis
>>733254113HALLO HALLO ITS A NEW WORLD
>>733265334you gotta just be cautiously optimistic man, you're already debbie-downing yourself. give it a chance
sup fags
>>733264983I'm talking about how in the last couple of years chinese culture have become significantly more relevant to mainstream gaming audience via their anime character design influences. My point is sexualization of .hack today is different from its sexualization from back then. Aura back then wasn't sexualized because "she's naked under her extremely covering attire" or whatever convoluted reason you came up with. Aura in the new trailer ticks multiple popular coomer checkboxes. That's what I meant by them whoring her out.
Why yes I DO want MMO combat like FF12 / Xenoshit/DA1
>>733265439Still, I think .hack//SIGN was ultimately necessary to understanding The World and its players. To be completely frank, the games were absolutely awful at really showcasing what this game was like to normal players. It's impossible to get any real sense of the in-game norms from just playing the game. Kite isn't a normal player, and he only really gets the briefest of glimpses into how other players play the game. After all, most of his interactions with "normal" players are just short quests and a couple e-mail interactions. There are no guilds or public gatherings, there's very little social interactions.
Here are my thoughts and some tips for IMOQ:https://files.catbox.moe/gap3qd.mp3Good thing to listen to if you're interested in the series. Recorded last year when I was sick, so enjoy my nice, sick radio voice. One clarification though, I think I say in there something like "I didn't watch the anime or read the novels." But I did back in the day, I just didn't reread/watch them for my playthrough.>>733265290
>>733264452>wiseman gendo>elk reikino indeed
So what do I do after SIGN?
>>733263361>how the localizers will insert awful reddit/blusky memesWell, that is the part of online culture. Our ugly reality of it. The only way to escape that is, ironically, make a completely anachronistic game about the good old days, instead of possible future of online interactivity. We've been to that future now, it sucks. Maybe the game should be about going back instead.
>>733265674someone in the first thread posted this guide
>>733265665>Aura behind KiteIt's kinda funny how these two are just always together. In the games, they actually didn't interact that much. And yet Kite's memory is Aura's most cherished treasure. She will never, ever allow The World to forget him, and she always makes she he exists in every version of The World in some capacity. The original player left the game, yet Kite is a constant enduring force because of her. If Aura exists, then some version of Kite will exist as well.
They confirmed it has nothing to do with the novelAlso>.hack bros… we fucking made it
Is the new game going to emulate Windows Vista again or is it going to be a more modern UI? It looks like a reboot so I'm guessing the latter
>>733265518Eh, I'm a realist, but beyond that from the MC design alone I can see that this art direction is not the one that I think of when I think of .hack. They'll definitely allow localizers quite a bit of freedom with forum posts as well, and if you know modern localizers you know what a pain that will be. Beyond all of that though, .hack has been a series with an identity crisis since the get go and it never really captured Sign and IMOQ's better elements after it's initial run. Every time they tried to revive it in various anime and movie forms (including an anime arena fighter), it always missed the mark. That's not to say that some miracle can't happen, but I'm erring on the side of caution on this one, especially considering how bamco handles less important properties.
>>733265805Maybe they could have tried a remake of the original games, with an expanded look into what the net was like in the early days. I dunno if Japan has its own version of the Wayback Machine, but they could use those sorts of tools to look at websites of the 00s and flesh out the net society of the R:1 era.
>>733265805That would... actually be really neat. They won't do it, but going back to when MMO's were still huge and social media was in its infancy would actually be a nice move.
>>733265692Play IMOQ
BLOODY EGG!
>>733265894>emulate Windows Vistait's going to emulate ubuntu
>>733245696Why did this series never really sell that great overall? Even in the gaming industry similar games like Dark Cloud built their cult fandom. But Hack never made a splash. Even Sly Cooper is better remembered than Hack. And yet it got a lot of sequels for a brand that never sold stellar. That's a curiosity of its own. Still why the low sales? Hack series was on Sony's most successful consoles so the userbase should have been huge meaning big sales.And how well do you expect this game to sell?
>>733265964Ya'll are making me sad with your good ideas of what we won't get. It would also be cool if in the remake they expanded the side casts stories and interactions and really fleshed them out.
>>733265008>>733265126Nothing wrong with her being best girl
One thing I hope they mention or reference is how readily available info is now. It wasn't really a plot point but I I think I remember some people in game saying how Haseo's Xth form was a strange look and that he had strange weapons but nothing happened beyond that. Nowadays altering your PC can be bannable so I hope they kinda touch on that.Or maybe I'm misremembering idk
>>733266103It was massive in nippon land and okay over here. It was a multimedia product and capitalized on the popularity of forums, urban legends, and mmos at the time. Think FFXV's marketing strategy if it actually worked. Slowly the popularity dwindled though as the fads changed.
I wish I could remember who it was that let me borrow infection for the PS2, I think it was someone I barely knew too so it was weird. Ended up buying the other 3 on release with my allowance, the good ol days...
>>733266103>a lot of sequelsanon, IMOQ is one game that they chunked into 4 for padding and $$$. GU is the same thing but 3 games. it didn't sell gangbusters because the subject matter was hard for normies to understand and so only a niche fanbase established.
>>73326610300s in Japan was an era of media-mix projects, expansive and ambitious attempts at creating multimedia franchises with video games, TV shows and even novels. Bandai in particular was big on this idea, starting with Digimon. .hack was just one of their attempts to bring it to life. They were aggressive because they had to be; they put a lot of money into these projects. But ultimately, the concept never truly took hold. It was too ambitious. Bandai attempted to take advantage of the optimism of the internet to create something massive, but in reality, what the internet age broad us was lower attention spans. Very few people actually want to commit to an IP and play a bunch of games, watch a bunch of shows and read a bunch of novels just to keep up with it all.
>>733266103I think the fact that the games were divided into parts really filtered people, especially when the fact is that it was never really justified to be in parts. Each part of IMOQ was only like 20-30 hours long so at the end it was only a 80 hour JRPG which was super common on the PS2. That and the entry price was the cost of 4 games.
>>733266103Everyone fucking obsessed and jerked off all over SAO but ignored thisI really don’t get itJust bad luck or something idk man
>>733266103being ahead of its time while simultaneously being its own worst enemy. there's so much stuff that the average consume felt like they were being stilled. gamer were too smart to fall for the "these games had to be separated because they're too big" which probably didn't help things. multimedia work was too much for casuals and the simulated MMO style that included the grind isn't for most people. also .hack is inherently a slow-burn, philosophical mystery that deals with AI ethics, consciousness and trauma. taking all of that into account it's a pretty hard sell.
>>733265290takes me back..
>>733266308I'll never forget being shocked at Mutation and Outbreak when I realized just how little significance they actually had. Infection and Quarantine are pretty much the entire story
>>733266308It was necessary to recoup costs. Each installment also game with a 30-minute OVA. The cost of the games technically kinda make sense when you treat the two as a packaged deal. Of course, most people don't take .hack//Liminality into account when they think of the games' monetary value. Plus I don't think a lot of people really think a 30 minute OVA that they perhaps didn't even like that much as worth it anyway.
>>733266237>>733266308It’s funnyPadding out content over multiple games is the standard now and people love itCall of Duty for example
>>733266103>sell a game into four parts>each part was sold for full retail on LAUNCH>world building and characters are also split into a multi media format, games themselves references characters and events you'd have to watch/read other medias forthis series was truly an experiment and wasn't for the norms
>>733265964That's where the old guy main character would be appropriate too. Maybe trying to relive those days and mixing memories with current reality of the World with some other players who feel the same way, Aura somehow taking heed to that and so on.
>>733266395Yeah that's a big problem with the original games, it's really infection and quarantine that tell the plot and the other two are just threre.It's super hard sell when someone is trying to get into the series but then they realize 2/4 games is basically filler tier
>>733266338It comes from the identity crisis and the fact that they never really could deliver on the concepts in any meaningful ways. Sign probably was the most cohesive and self contained entry, but every thing in the series was so disjointed and so vastly different. Still, the nips did adore it for a bit. It is kinda weird they slowed after GU as, to my knowledge, that series did very well in Japan but perhaps they were upset at the lack of global appeal.
Black rose with small breasts and supple tummy. So erotic...!!!
>>733266338SAO was pure waifushit, no one was there for the setting or the story but instead for Kirito and Asuna fucking and doing family larping in an action drama
>>733266452The "old guy main character" thing is just wishful thinking. Matsuyama will never allow a game made under his watch with a protagonist that's older than 19.
>>733266338.Hack/Sign was pretty boring for the most part. I only watched like 2 episodes of SAO but it was probably much easier to watch for normiesAlso having to buy 7 PS2 games (original and GU) is not an easy investment to get into something
>>733266528I think it's a case of after GU CC2 started getting really into licensed games.
>>733266430I remember some shit about Infection basically being impossible if you don't look up the info since to even get to the end you have to farm multiple extremely rare items. Plus it played like a shitty single player MMO which I guess is what they were going for.I just read the wiki and watched a few video essays
>>733266551I mean Sugu's titties were pretty phenomenal, lets be fair
>>733265832Calling the part that has legend of twilight bracelet the "Golden age" is crazy
>>733266494I straight up just can't and don't recommend em. I have a special place for the series in my heart for sure. I love the atmosphere and ost, but they just aren't good games and going back to them is... rough. There are moments of fun here and there in IMOQ though, which is better than I can say for GU. If you are proficient with any sort of action game like DMC or Ninja Gaiden, you'll break GU to the point where even if you nerf yourself you'll be juggling every enemy you meet till they die.
>>733266570Sad because ojisans are the bulk of oldschool MMO audience of today. Would've been actually be somewhat relatable that way.
I wont be interested unless this new series comes broken into 3 games and they release a physical version at a Gamestop midnight release.
>>733266338Because the .//hack franchise was designed to be multimedia from the get go and the care for each product suffered as a result. SAO was originally just a light novel but got traction which is what made it spin off into anime and video games.You see this same "we wanna make a multi media franchise right NOW" failure in the present with Synduality.
>>733266627Could be, and who can blame em considering the IP's they were offered to work on. May have been a blessing in disguise though considering the mmo fad was dying... that, or they may have been just short of striking diamonds considering the SAO craze. I imagine they would have eventually gotten stuck to that IP if it wasn't for their arena fighters.
>.hack//SIGN>S-cry-ed>Outlaw Star>R.O.D. the TVtake me back to late night anime that I was too young to understand but was enamored with anyway
>>733266801>>S-cry-edwish more people talked about it. i feel so alone, bros.
>>733266801Haseo's 5th form was so bad.
>>733266660>I remember some shit about Infection basically being impossible if you don't look up the infothat's bullshit>t. played it blind first time and beat the game underleveled without grinding and without Liminality itemsgranted, killing Skeith took like an hour to beat but it's not 'impossible' fucking casuals
>>733266494>>733266703There are specific people I can recommend IMOQ to but yeah, I'd say it's not for most people. Same with SIGN. You gotta have the right mindset to not find both boring.
>>733266716Loser middle-aged men who spend all their time playing games wouldn't be competent enough to save the world. If anyone's gonna become a hero, it's a fresh-faced kid with above-average intelligence and maturity who hasn't yet been worn down by reality. In other words, if we ever found ourselves in a situation where a single hero is absolutely necessary to avert a huge disaster, we may as well just give up then and there because such a hero doesn't exist.
>>733266840It's wild to me how short and drastically different the manga was to the anime.
>>733266801I had no idea what was going on in Outlaw Star but the girl got naked in that one scene where her spirit was doing some shit with the guy's so that was pretty cool
>>733266660>>733266869Yeah, it's pretty straight forward. The only thing you 100% want to use when playing through the series is the core guide..... or else God help you later.
>>733266908that was also the case with Outlaw Star
>>733266840Reckless Fire and the final fight will live rent free in my head forever.
>>733265880seeing these characters is so nostalgic. it's also a nice feeling seeing all of the dothack love still present on /v/.
>>733266660I played all of the games blind. Then I realized I don't have all the shit I need at the end, looked it up, realized I'd have to grind for a LOT of cores I could've been collecting all this time and gave up.
>>733266886Sucks, doesn't it? It's weird to love something so much and still view it so negatively. It also doesn't make sense to do so, yet somehow I still love the series even though I'd say the whole thing is an objective 4/10...maybe lower for GU's gameplay.
>>733266801>Kanon>Full Metal Panic>Witch Hunter Robin>GitS: SAC>Haibane Renmei2002 was an absolutely cracked year for anime.
>>733266908I remember seeing it at a half price books and there was a lotta titties
>>733266993It's sort of surprising to me just how much people neglected Data Drain for most of their playthroughs. Like you have this basic gameplay element that exists to get you stuff you might need for progress and yet you just ignore it until the last minute, only to get caught with your pants down when you realize, oh wait, this vital gameplay element was actually vital. The only way you could be THAT low on virus cores is if you completely refused to use Data Drain the entire playthrough.
kite won the waifu roulette so hard it's not even funny
>>733267172It was because the game absolutely scared the crap out of you about using it and you don't realize how liberally you can use it. I remember as a kid being terrified to use it too much due to how deep you could be in dungeons and a death meaning a loss of 20 minutes to an hour or more, so you're afraid of just what negative side effects the bracelet can have and the game warns you how bad it can be. Of course, upon replaying it as an adult, you realize the only dungeon that can cause a full corruption game over is the secret one at the end of Q.
>>733267172IMOQ Data Drain was not a fun gimmick, as cool as the concept wasAnd anybody who says otherwise did not endure the faggot bullshit that was Mia's dungeonOnly finished that shit because Elk is my boy and Mia is hot
>>733266551yeah his cousin was sexy as hell in those shorts
>>733267356I would have bullied Elk. That dude was such a turd. I also agree on Data Drain not being fun.
>>733267312Lol, the artist didn't try too hard at all on Atoli's "new" dress.
>>733267312It's crazy to me how despite this franchise coming out during the era of MMORPG and GIRL that the characters are by and large the same gender on and offline.
>>733267356wait till you get to the final fragment story dungeon. I went in at level 70~ and left it at 60~ you need to data drain almost every single encounter.
>>733266417But Call of Duty is a game about firing guns and normies love shooting guns. In fact that's the marketing tagline for series like Ratchet and Clank where the creators of Ratchet said people love using the guns to blow shit up.Hack is for all intents and purposes a cringy anime RPG and while Final Fantasy was respected during those days anime looking RPGs were not. I think the only new RPG series from that era that became a long running profitable success was Kingdom Hearts and that's because Disney was more respected as a global brand and the gameplay was actually surprisingly good for an experimental Action RPG. Anyway RPGs always have it rough and by the look of things not even Final Fantasy 7 Remake is bringing this genre to prominence.
>>733267172I used data drain constantly and I still ended up having to grind for hours just to finish quarrantine's main story, not even the deliberate fuck you post game stuff >>733267356 talks aboutand this was AFTER I looked up several guides to confirm the exact area/enemy/corruption level that gives the highest chance to get the cores I need. it's bullshit. I went through the entire .hack ip in release order during the coof lockdowns and IMOQ are definitely the worst games I've ever finished because of shit like this or having to go through 4 layers of menus to cure a single status ailment
>>733267583I still need go play Fragment and Link, but after my back to back playthrough last year of IMOQ and GU I just havent been able to bring myself to do it.
>>733267565Bro Diablo 2, WoW and FF11 were filled with horny RL chicks. Peak fucking days.
I hope this game is good
>>733267565Tsukasa's basically the one major exception thinking about it.
My wives
>>733267565After making it a central plot point with Tsukasa, I can understand if they didn't want to revisit it for any other major characters.Also you could argue that Sakubo is GIRL-ing when Saku is fronting.
>>733267628I didn't mind the menu surfing all that much, but man were the cores such a miserable idea. It's made all the worse when you realize that a good 80% of the length in Q was meant to be derived from going back and acquiring the cores you hadn't yet. If you followed the guide, it's easily the shortest of the games.
>>733258342>hardly any r34 of the .hack girlsYou would think there be lots with the big boobs glasses girl, but nope!
>>733266338Can't speak for everyone but I hated Sword Art Online strictly because as soon as the first episode explained that the main protagonist is an obnoxious Gary Stu who can solo everyone because he's a grinding maximum level up lamer I simply had to reject that series. That and I really hated how every single character with a vagina automatically had to worship that bastard. Never liked anime harem shenanigans because there's something so incredibly annoying about a bunch of women going on and on as if they got no lives explaining why they are all obsessed with the same douche.I wish anime improved but sadly after Sword Art Online the go to anime cliche was isekai which means that now random losers from the real world go to an actual fantasy world and inexplicably they are super winner at life because they were losers who played lots of video games and every woman lusts after them. I simply can't stand this wish fulfillment junk.
.hacks buisness model made a lot more sense in japan where you could get a cheaper version that was just the game, the gap between releases was a lot smaller cuz they just made and released the game instead of having to localize the game after it's finished, and you had parody mode to justify a second playthrough. you could be done with a game pretty close to when the next one was out pretty similar to a modern episodic model
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>>733268013Trvthnuke
>>733267662fragment, while being in the imoq engine, plays way better on account of button shortcuts. Once you get used to it, you become a dungeon crawling machine.
>>733267960Isekai has been a go to decades before Sword Art Online though. Hell, picrel is one of the longest running isekai anime out there.
>>733268013What if someone I thought was an extroverted girl was actually an introverted 10 year old boy? This seems like an upgrade.
>>733265665that haseo goes fuckin' hard
>>733267172>The only way you could be THAT low on virus cores is if you completely refused to use Data Drain the entire playthrough.That's exactly what happened, yes.>game tells you "don't suck data too much or bad shit will happen to the world">16 year old me: "oh shit alright, I'm gonna be careful and only resort to it when needed">game at the end: "bitch you should've sucked all the mobs along the way"
wish me luck bros
>>733266103For what it was, it was very pretentious multimedia project and it doesn't help that most people outside of Japan's only interaction was an either-or of a very mediocre game or multiple frankly bad anime. Both with an unclear naming scheme and order from outside viewers.
>>733268139Skeith was the only one who actually required me to grind to be able to beat him
>>733245696>You have to take some extra effort to appreciate the new game of a dead franchise.No and fuck you.
>>733267983>JPInfection June 20, 2002Quarantine April 10, 2003>NAInfection February 11, 2003Quarantine January 13, 2004The gap wasn't much different tho
>>733266103For one they never ported GU to europe, i had to go ahead and import them to be able to play back then
>>733268253Waiting for Outbreak and Quarantine as a young lad felt like a fucking eternity. I was browsing the web like mad.
>>733268013buttrice, my nigga...
>>733268013He's right you know.
I lived .hack//sign, though admittedly it was carried by the god tier soundtrack
>>733268114Maybe in the sense that Goku is from a literal other planet, or that its a powerscaling fantasy, but I'd argue that it doesn't really hit the core tenets of a fish-out-of-water adventure or a wish fulfillment fantasy. Better historical examples would be something like Inuyasha, Digimon, Those Who Hunt Elves, or Escaflowne. Even SIGN is more in line with the early tradition of being thrown into another world being a sidestep at best and a nightmare at worst. It wasn't until the late 2000s/early 2010s that isekai got married to the cheat power wish fulfillment where the protagonist is not allowed to face any legitimate challenges past some very early point.
>>733265439> It was just to showcase what some of the players of this game are like.That is what made it so good. It predicted some of the most online behaviour that we deal with now.Like the eternal reddit janny.
>>733268387she killed her child...
>>733268126>Game explicitly shows that you need Virus Cores for Gate Hacking>It's clear that Gate Hacking is 100% mandatory and you WILL need to grind for cores if you don't have the requisite cores>Reach a part in the story in which you need cores>You didn't Data Drain so you don't have coresHow does one learn about Gate Hacking and not realize that virus cores are a vital resource?
>>733268558>but I'd argue that it doesn't really hit the core tenets of a fish-out-of-water adventureGoku was a kid from the boonies that had fuck all knowledge about guns, cars, or women even.>or a wish fulfillment fantasyThe dragon balls are literally wish fulfilling mcguffins
>>733268653You're reaching.
>>733265439>Morgana putting the pk autist into a coma ends up saving the world later
:^)
>>733268086Might give it a go then. Thread has me more interested in picking the older games back up than the new one to be honest. >>733268125Its a good pic for sure.
>>733268775Made me sad how "Skeith" in Vol3 didn't really talk like Sora at all. No onomatopoias or anything.
>>733268653>Goku was a kid from the boonies that had fuck all knowledge about guns, cars, or women even.If this qualifies Dragon Ball as an isekai then fucking Tarzan is one.>The dragon balls are literally wish fulfilling mcguffinsYes, but the point of the story is not the wish fulfillment of the reader. The taint of modern isekai writing is the protagonist as a thin shell for the reader to self-insert over and to have their fantasies of being powerful, popular, and free acted out, because in reality they're a powerless, friendless, economically doomed high schooler. It's the same shit Twilight did for western girls, just aimed at sad Japanese boys instead.
>>733268751I am answering the criteria you're providing.Goku quite literally constantly has no knowledge of the impending threat no matter the arc. Be it being surprised that there will be saiyans coming to earth in 6 months, learning that there are other dragon balls on other planets, that an old obsessed foe went and made androids to take him down, etc. etc.That he solves everything pretty much by training to punch harder than the other guy does not devalue that his adventures are constantly him being a clueless fish being exposed to a larger pond.
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beat this bitch. fight wasn't really too hard.>>733268248haven't beaten 1 in a while. hardest fight for me was cubia in mutation. as long as you bring enough items and have enough health to survive nukes, all of the fights are pretty doable.
>>733268953>>733268958:^)
>>733268917>Tarzan is oneOne of the core tenets of isekai is that your character gets taken to another world or time.That's why shit like Rayearth, Escaflowne (taken to another world), or Inuyasha and Fushigi Yugi (taken to another time) would be called isekai.
>>733268953>>733268958:^)mind
>>733268917The bible is an isekai
>>733268953>>733268958MODS
>>733269075Reincarnated as the son of god and all I was given was a harem of disciples and this shitty cross!?
>>733268953>>733268958bitches love smiley faces
>>733269127
>>733269110and then he ditched her to become a teacher and travel the world.
i willed the new entry into existence with my aura drawing that i did out of the blue last week. you're all welcome.
>>733268775Kind of sucks to think about what happens to Skeith. It's like the only Phase that develops a mutual understanding with its user and then Haseo fucking disappears for a year before returning when the game is about to EoS.
>>733269127Reincarnated by My Own Father into a Fallen World as a Humble Carpenter’s Son, I Gather Twelve Unlikely Companions to Battle Sin, Heal the Broken, Defy Corrupt Empires, and Unlock the Ultimate Sacrificial Power to Defeat Death Itself
SKEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITH!
How did Kite become a "legend" anyway? He seems to have become all but forgotten by the R:2 era, yet his reputation somehow made a resurgence during R:X.
>>733269205nice
>>733269180Never give up your mission in life for pussy. If she was true she would've followed him.
yeah no it's not isekai
>>733269225Aura has been posting increasingly unhinged fanfiction starring him under a pen name, and it only got picked up for a light novel deal in the R:X era.
>>733245696This crappy franchise is still alive?!Ban gay marriage, btw.
armless loli blackrose
>>733268642I had SOME cores and it was no problem getting the ones you need for each installment when you needed them because they mostly asked for the ones you get in that particular game. That's why I never thought I'd have to keep a whole stockpile of every single one of their kind, even the earliest ones, at the very end.
>>733269205Cute
>>733269110>H*nd h*ldingholy shit, how'd they get away with that?!
>>733245696How do people take this seriously when the entire premise is it's all a game within the game?
>>733269665Because the game can put its players in a coma and potentially end technology on earth due to severe fuck-ups. What, you can't invest in the lives of the people in a fictional setting?
>>733269665The game has has real world consequences in the story
>>733269629It was a more degenerate time. Men didn't need to declare that they sexually identified as a woman to play as one, hand holding was everywhere, and people would actually talk to each other outside of games. Truly delinquent behavior.
Call me retarded if I'm misremembering but how come the .hack// games never did a bit with the game suddenly needing to go offline for a patch while they're in the middle of something important?
>>733269789guess you should just log out and check your email or something
>>733269665>"take this seriously"low iq phrase
>>733270093
>>733268568Mini modding (or "backseat moderating") has been around since the BBS days, you're just too young. MODS!
>>733268013always be wary of those dastardly imposters
>>733269731You are wasting your time responding.He is an irony nigger. He only engages with media """""ironiclly""""" and will have a cortisol spike if he ever suspends his disbelief.
>>733263361Anon, I'd imagine they'll just use the localizers who did Fuga. If you have seen that game series, it is fucking unhinged. It should be in good enough hands.
>>733270642I imagine it's probably more up to Bamco than CC2 on which localizers they use in this case, and Bamco has some absolutely abysmal ones as well as a team specifically meant to push agendas into their games and censor them when they may be offensive. Again, not trying to be a Debbie downer, just being a realist here.
>>733266660I did that shit as a kid without a guide.You wiki relying fag generation retards are something else.
>>733260010cute covered face
>>733271006>BamcoNo this is self published, CC2 is doing all the legwork. They would likely use the same company they have been when translating and releasing Fuga and it's multi media content.You have literally no reason to worry on that front, I can't imagine the DEI and "woke" cabal don't have their eyes on CC2 at all.
>>733271141There's plenty of reason to be worried. CC2 made Thanatos Report.
>>733268013They’re not holding back.
>>733263045Rude
>>733258342.
>>733258342..
>>733263503>Dats my wife
>>733258342...
>>733252243>kooky mia is an unlockable bg
>>733264159When the anime ended I was thinking>THAT'S IT?!
>>733258124I've been trying to get 4chinners to fucking play Fragment for awhile elsewhere
>>733264939I hate lettuce btw
>>733245696Cool. I was just thinking about the PS2 games recentlyHopefully the combat is a little less button mash and spamming stacatto
>>733264898it's the name of the attacks that haseo yells out, the second batch of names are the unused names, there's also SWORD BLAST, NIGHTFALL WIND, SHADOW DRAGON, ROARING FIST, SUPER STING AND BLOOD CRAZE as seen as in this video https://youtu.be/jHcQjnXRZv8
>>733271501Well I mean it's a prologue to the games. Of course nothing would get resolved.
>>733271621well it would be the perfect time for it.
>>733270486
>>733265964>>733265989This series is not about escaping into an idealized past and ignoring real problems, its the exact opposite of that, and you are such fucking losers for suggesting it. You are beyond useless.
