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Is anyone still playing? I just downloaded the game after almost a year, the druid is pretty fun so far
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Poop Of Excrement II
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>>733305935
I just didn't like it that much. It's not the worst game ever but it It's just way less fun than Path of Exile 1 and felt like a huge step in the wrong direction.
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>>733305935
I got filtered by the campaign
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>>733305935
Nah, if PoE 1 is a 9/10 game, PoE 2 is a 6/10.
Shame, because from a technical level the game would be a 11/10, but the mechanics are a massive downgrade from PoE 1. A shame really.
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>>733305935
no.
doom posters like >>733306946
have harmed the reputation of the game. these people claim to like poe and but want nothing more than for it to all be shut down.
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>>733307128
Nah, I still play every single PoE 1 league, I skipped most PoE 2 leagues. I got back for the atziri bs, and the endgame was so fucking horrid, the systems design in such a fucking retarded way, and the same mistakes they made 10+ years ago repeated again, that I quit after my first atziri kill.
Which btw, dropped nothing and wiped the whole temple.

Its just shit, because as I said, the technology is fucking amazing, the character controls the spell animations, its amazing. But they just keep designing it with an antagonistic mindset. Johnathan does not thing about what makes it a fun game, he tries to design with the player, in his mind, being an enemy he has to kill/punish. Once you realize that, you notice that every system is designed as such.
And on top of that, the creativity PoE 1 had, is also stripped away. PoE 2 is heavily designed with specific skill combinations in mind, and 90% of the builds have to adhere to those preset combinations.
Tbh, there really is no point in ranting about it, because they won't change. Its clear that the people who left GGG were the ones that kept Johnathan in check, and kept the game fun. He is very much a "you play it my way, or you are playing it wrong" type of dev. Which fine, if you enjoy his way, might be fun for you. But that ain PoE 1.

The only thing I am really sad about, is that the PoE 2 design is now seeping over into PoE 1.
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>>733305935
22k people. So it's pretty trash right now.
Probably wait for new update
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>>733305935
waiting on swords and axes.
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>>733305935
just add shadow and duelist already
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>>733305935
I was glued to my screen for 0.1, 0.2 and 0.3 but for some reason dropped 0.4 halfway through act 2. It was a combination of being down about the patch being the weakest major one so far (doubly so with the promised major endgame rework being delayed indefinitely), the Atziri temples being complete ass that were broken sideways within days ruining the market for the entire league, and Talismans/transformations being extremely rigid (if you play werewolf you literally just put all the skills labelled 'werewolf' on your hotbar and press them in the exact same sequence every time like an MMO rotation, and if you do anything else you're wasting your time). I'm thinking I'll just skip the next one to build my anticipation for 0.6 or even wait until 1.0, I kind of can't be bothered spending two hundred hours in the rat race for a fourth time.
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Tencent shill thread
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Why is there no sword.
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i had fun jumping around and swooshing my wing and spitting fire. it made it more obvious how the maps have a lot of little shit you can get stuck on when you're leaping around like that though
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>>733308791
GGG and PoE started to die when they got bought out by Tencent. Like everybody else Tencent bought out.
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>>733308731
>if you play werewolf you literally just put all the skills labelled 'werewolf' on your hotbar and press them in the exact same sequence every time like an MMO rotation, and if you do anything else you're wasting your time
Kek that's literally me. I just wanted to try the new class and his skills, imagine my surprise when I realized it's actually the best way to play the druid
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>>733305935
tub of shit poo
still no swords lmeo
The titan grotto and the boss are pretty cool
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Do people actually use multiple skills as advertised or is this just another poopy1 single button blow up screen crap
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>>733309273
Mostly latter and has been since patch 0.1. GGG keep trying to change/nerf that but people always find a way and flock to it.
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>>733309273
The game encourages it throughout campaign, all classes have skills that combo with each other and Sorceress has most of all with the elemental infusions. However the stronger you get and the closer you get to endgame you'll gravitate towards single button builds because they're simply more efficient. If your gear is so good that a Spark is strong enough to clear the entire screen with a single cast, then why waste time dropping an elemental weakness sigil, luring mobs in, farming and preserving ice infusions, and finally doing an ultra mega super powered Shock that... still clears the entire screen in a single cast? That's simply the nature of the genre, efficiency is prized over everything.
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>>733305935
>Is anyone still playing?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
AHAHAHAHAHHAHA
*wheeze*
MAKE A FANTASY GAME WITHOUT SWORDS
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHA
*Oh wait it really happened*

AHHAHAH HAHAH HAH AH AHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHA IMAGINE IMAAAAGINEEE HAHAHAHAH AHA HA A *WHEEZE*
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>>733309273
Its a cycle of
>players find a skill that can 1 button clear
>ggg nerfs it
>repeat
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>>733305935
I redownload the game every 3-4 months just to get halfway through the campaign and get bored
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>>733305935
I like druid bear slamming
It's pretty fun
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>>733308052
Is that just steam numbers? What about the launcher? Steam numbers aren't accurate. I don't use steam
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>>733310551
This is basically me. I play it again during the new update, check out the new class or stuff making my way through campaign and then eventually stop and wait again
I'm betting though when 1.0 does come out proper I'll probably continuously play it and try out every class like I typically do with ARPGs like D2 where I hit Hell on every class
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>>733307128
NTA but I really like PoE, play every league and PoE2 feels great everywhere except in the 2 main, very central things to the game: crafting and build making
It all feels so fearful of the player, scared of giving them too much leeway both in mechanical open endedness of skills to allow new synergies to emerge and letting people craft and tweak their items (I would let people scour magic items personally).
I feel like the deeper problem is the build making part however, it feels... hostile.
PoE2's skill mechanics feel like hostile architecture.
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>>733305935
Is it free yet?
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>>733312730
it'd be quicker to check than ask, retardanimefag
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PoE2 is pretty good but they haven't cooked long enough with classes, skills, and the tree. The tree isn't as good as PoE1's, taking out so much defense (life) is so strange and nonsensical. Life scaling doesn't exist in the game, other random retarded things like armor having basically no defensive layers. Random dumb shit like charges not giving passive effects anymore.

If they figure out the endgame and work out the balance/build freedom this game will shit on poe1. PoE1 has had some pretty shit patches recently, and that game is not as good as it used to be so anyone memberberrying it and pretending it's 10x better than PoE2 is delusional. It used to be but not anymore
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>>733309273
depends on the build really. some stuff doesn't work so good without comboing other skills, some do. I'm playing a skeleton build for example and there's a support gem that boosts damage per unique minion I have, so I use at least one of every skeleton available to me. On my slam build I used earthshatter mostly, but the bulk of the damage comes from detonating the shards with a shout, so I would open with a fissure, spam shatters until I hit the cap then I'd yell to pop them.
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>>733309273
There are some outliers every league where you can zoomzoom, not quite as zoom as PoE1, and generally speaking you have to work quite a bit harder to get to that screenwide clearing everyone can do in PoE1. There are definitely low effort/1 button builds but there's plenty that aren't. Nothing particularly high APM though
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>>733313040
>taking out so much defense (life)
>barely any life nodes
>endurance charges don't really contribute to your bulk either
crazy how casters can end up beefier than the single class dedicated to being a big wall of meat
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>>733313364
Yea it makes no fucking sense. I knew armor/life was bad in PoE2, but I didn't firsthand experience it until I tried a full armor bear druid this league. You actually CAN'T stack armor and life at the same time, because you need every single armor prefix possible and a suffix of armor applies to ele on every single fuckin' piece of gear possible. I ended up with like 2.7k HP on an armor stacker, and even though I got to a point where most things did very little damage, I could still get 1 tapped by things that my 14k energy shield djinn would laugh at.
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>>733305935
After Tencent bought the developer they went from making the game fun to making the game as tedious and boring as possible to boost player "engagement" numbers to make their chinese owners happy.
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>>733313040
>they haven't cooked long enough
The fucking kiwis keep taking days off for made up holidays, the game should be in 1.0 by now
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>>733313540
yep and stacking STR doesn't give much life either. I have 575 STR on my level 82 Titan and I'm still barely above 2k HP. I didn't take the 15% max life ascendancy because I wanted the every other slam is ancestrally boosted mastery but I might have to respec just so I'm not so brittle
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>>733305935
>Let's make a game that's slower paced, more methodical, clearer, and emphasizes tactile mechanics
Then it just became Zoom Boom Wahoo, cover the screen in Blue all over again. And mobility being the number one stat.
Diablo 4 unironically has more build customization than PoE2 because PoE2 had the bright idea to pre-bake every combo, and not using the pre-made combos flat out results in less damage.
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>>733305935
I tried coming back for druid and got like midway thru act 2 before becoming bored. Just wasn't my thing. I'm gonna leave it for another few seasons again, at least until they add fucking swords and or the paladin class or duelist class.
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>>733307598
>>733311350
God, buildcrafting in PoE2 is so dogshit. I was warning about the simplification of damage calculations completely gutting build diversity from the moment the beta started, but everyone kept calling me retarded and that is just because of a lack of content.
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>>733313913
>>733313540
>>733313364
AH so armor health is still shite despite me hearing it got overhauled, eh?

Yeah, they also removed resistances from the tree compared to PoE1 for whatever reason, forcing you to either specialize your subclass into something with defenses or get shitloads of it on items.
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all the defenses work fine and I genuinely have no idea how people have had a hard time with them
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>>733314729
In previous seasons at least armor was objectively inferior in every possible way. Might be different now.
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>>733305935
Still no Templar? Still don't care and won't play then.
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>>733314729
Armor and evasion were fucking useless when the early access launched (evasion still is)
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>>733314815
I thought evasion/shield was the best defense type?
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>>733314891
Pure ES all the way
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>>733314651
it's still the weakest I think yeah. there is sort of an exception in that stacking armor on witchhunter feels good because of the barrier passive, but otherwise yeah it still feels kind of bad.
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>>733314651
>they also removed resistances from the tree compared to PoE1 for whatever reason
Resistances are still on the tree
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>>733315219
far fewer, weaker, and less accessible nodes than in PoE1
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Where the FUCK is she?
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>>733316294
in path of exile, are you retarded?
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>they added the market in-game
>they added an instant buyout option
Sweet, I don't have to deal with chinks anymore
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>>733310815
>>733310551
Bros your endgame?
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>>733318718
It was alright for a while but getting to the end game was tedious as fuck. I hated having to do the first 3 acts twice in a row
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>>733318858
they changed it, you do three mini acts in each region now but they mostly have new maps
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>>733305935
No
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>>733319319
BRB redownloading the game
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>>733319716
here's the map, the first mini-act does reuse alot of act 1 stuff but the other two are more unique
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>>733313573
Only chris the reallest hood nigger of them all left that dumpster fire to burn and make his own new d2 clone - for real this time.
I actually like chris btw. He cool
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>>733305935
>Is anyone still playing?
i'll play the games (1 or 2) when they work offline or on a private server that i run myself.

not really interested in a game where it can be forcefully "balanced" and ruin my fun
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>>733305935
whenever I come up with a build, I usually have a blast with it act 2 to 4, but by the time I get to endgame I am completely bored of doing the same buttons over and over
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>200div in an hour just from drops
What the fuck happened to the economy?
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>>733322525
people figured out how to milk temples for currency.
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>>733305935
Poe2 took everything good about the first game and deleted it. I'd rather play a class-based game then this half-measure illusion of choice game that we got. Bloat for the sake of bloat. Systems for the sake of appealing to the predecessor. It's all for show. It's all on rails

>>733307128
>doom posters like have harmed the reputation of the game
The game ruined its' own reputation. This is a pathetic cope
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>>733309273
most builds are all one button. You might use a few skills during the campaign, but they aren't combos, usually just "this skill is for clear", and "this other skill is for bosses". In end game weapons are so powerful that you just kill everything with one skill. There are way less utility skills compared to poe1 also - things like curses, guard skills, etc, are basically useless and other things like sigil of power are basically mandatory on every build so a lot of builds just end up feeling very samey.
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>>733318858
Oh?
I'll check it out
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>>733305935
got told the game isn't as slow and hard as it was on release and now I'm sad :(
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GGG is the only company that cares about its playerbase.
They're unironically saving gaming
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>>733305935
I like it more than regular PoE, however
>no challenge league
Call me back when I can 40/40.
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>>733305935
Its good but zoomers who cant stand not zipping from pack to pack while pianoing keys hate that they slowed the game down and it ruins online discourse about it.

That said they need to unfuck unlocking ascendancy points in poe2. Thats one thing poe1 did way better.
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I got bored. Will come back for the next big patch, though.
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>poo2 bad because it's too much like PoE1
>poo2 bad because it's not enough like PoE 1
which way, kiwi man
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>>733325076
>zipping from pack to pack while pianoing keys
I've been doing exactly that ever since druid was released
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>>733321024
Retards like to shit on Chris but he had a vision and he stuck to it. PoE 1 would not be nearly as successful and well remembered as it is today if he listened to even a 1/4 of the things the playerbase kept begging him to do
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>>733325334
For me it's just different enough to keep me interested while feeling the same. I put hundreds of hours into PoE1 and I just could not bring myself to play any more of that game
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>>733305935
Waiting for finished game
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>>733305935
I’m waiting for the full thing to come out
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>>733325385
No you haven't. Not like people do in poe 1. The fact that there are only 2 flasks in 2 means you dont.
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My thing is that no sockets or links on gear. In PoE 1 even whites could be useful if they rolled good sockets/links and you craft them into rares. In PoE2 I dont really care unless a rare drops
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>>733324618
Yeah I got to endgame in 18 hours at 0.4 launch and moved on to go touch grass outside, quite the respectable company
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>>733325671
towards endgame whites are actually better because iirc they are more likely to roll 20+ quality, and then you just craft on em
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Just got the easiest Trial of the Sekhemas ever. Literally 60-70% of the rooms were either the gauntlet or escape trial
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>>733325671
Blues and whites that drop in poe2 are way more valuable than poe1 due to how poe2's crafting works.
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>>733325076
>zipping from pack to pack
the most popular endgame builds are literally that and have been like that since 0.1 lol
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>lightning only
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>>733327395
Even the craziest CoC lightning warp, temporalis blink, etc shenganigans in PoE2 don't match the speed of your average "fast" build in PoE1. That's what he was saying, which is true. Nobody is saying poe2 doesn't have zoom but it's nowhere near the level of poe1
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they fucking love their animations/design team too much, and just really want to keep adding FRICTION to the game instead of adding QoLs improvements that other arpgs have solved in the 10+years.
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>>733327467
Did you skip CoC Comet league or something?
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>>733327395
This is nothing compared to poe1
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>>733327653
>QoLs improvements that other arpgs have solved in the 10+years.
Such as?
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>>733327627
Well yeah even the baseline speed of mobs is slower than Poe1 even if they're way faster than the player. Poe1 wasn't so zoomzoom in the first few years anyhow.
2 has nowhere to go if they started out like webm related.
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>>733327819
aoe or auto loot
in-game item filters
skill opacity/transparency sliders

i like their new UI with pop ups when clicking tags though
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>>733327986
>2 has nowhere to go if they started out like webm related.
Well they're actively working against that being the case, obviously, seeing the targeted nerfs they've made since poe2 came out. They do some dumb things like add rhoa but generally I find the speed of poe2 to be satisfactory. I don't think speed is one of the issues poe2 faces right now anyways. I was just saying poe2's zoomies are nowhere near poe1's zoomies
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>>733328058
I'll give you credit because you actually gave qol examples instead of "qol" asking the game to get dumbed down
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>>733307128
Cry GGG shill.
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>>733328292
retard
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why play poe2 when grimdawn and d2 exist doe
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>>733328389
mostly async trading.
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>>733328058
>in-game item filters
That only exists because poe2 loot system is garbage, probably the worst in the bussiness.
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>>733328389
I love D2, I play it too

Don't know why anyone likes GD that game is fucking dogshit
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>>733328225
>I was just saying poe2's zoomies are nowhere near poe1's zoomies
That's fair but I think it's silly to complain about that in the first place since Poe2 will match or surpass Poe1's autism eventually anyway.
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>>733328446
Poe1 needed filters too. Most ARPGs do. D2 JUST added them as an in game function
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>>733328524
>Poe2 will match or surpass Poe1's autism eventually anyway
If the devs give up. From day 1 of its announcement PoE2 has purposefully tried to stop that level of zoom
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>>733328389
grim dawn is genuinely just not good
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>>733325076
>>they need to unfuck unlocking ascendancy points in poe2
>get max honor + honor damage resist relics
>run through everything in trial of the sekhemas
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>>733328624
Still not as fun as lab. Same with the chaos temple
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>>733328483
>GD that game is fucking dogshit
>>733328595

The opinion of zoomniggers doesn't matter, at all.
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>>733328389
Game looks great and the skills feel great to use, simple as.
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>>733328541
You can pllay D2 with filters, You can't play Poe1 or Poe2 without filters becuase the loot system in that game is T R A S H
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>>733328652
I was 13 years old when Diablo 2 released. Grim Dawn sucks.
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>>733328652
I'm 34. GD is fucking awful.
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>>733328710
>You can't play Poe1 or Poe2 without filters
Way to out yourself as an illiterate shitskin
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>>733328446
grimdawn had a functionable in-game filter. It came out 10years ago? I'm fucking shocked that no development budget was allocated for it in poe2. I swear GGG don't look at other games in its genre to steal good ideas.

Even the shitty torchlight infinite has better QoL features than poe2.
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>>733305935
People only play these games for a couple weeks when a new league/patch drops.
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>>733328921
Yeah...
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>>733328976
Yes.
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>>733328837
>>733328806
Ok so normal retarded, got it. You simply are too young to understand what good games look like.

>noooo muh bing bing wahooo explosion
>muh quest marker
>Muh casualization i mean.. muh qol it's totally a qol not a bastardizatino of games!!!

Eat shit, you are to blame for the state of the industry.
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>>733328913
>I'm fucking shocked that no development budget was allocated for it in poe2. I swear GGG don't look at other games in its genre to steal good ideas.
Because they know neversink will do the work for them and they know over the last 13+ years they've conditioned a playerbase to download neversink's filter
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>>733329101
I mean poe 1 and 2 has none of those either except for explosions. You're just a fag with shit taste
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>>733328591
0.2 was the slowest the game has been and it was terribly received, I doubt they'll let the game end up like that again.
They know that part of the appeal for the playerbase is breaking the game in different ways every league so they'll make it appear as if they slowed the game down but leave it to players to find out how to zoomzoom in the endgame like every other patch outside of 0.2.
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>>733328921
Hahaha right...

>>733329101
If you were more confident in your opinion that GD is a good game you wouldn't be spazzing out like a retard assuming you know why I think it sucks. You're wrong btw.
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>>733328921
Yeah and? Chris himself intended the game to be that way.
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>>733323684
Yeah pretty gay
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>>733329282
I was just letting OP know since they asked if anybody was still playing.
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>>733329193
>They know that part of the appeal for the playerbase is breaking the game in different ways
This is the exact reason why my top 3 games are Nioh, PoE and Warframe. Plus the excessive grinding all 3 games share. I might have some kind of autism.
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>>733305935
The game is amazing and makes Diablo 4 look like roblox.
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>>733329432
It's not hard to make D4 look like roblox several games do it. D3 was even worse
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Why not play no rest for the wicked which is an actually good game?
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D2R: RotW has booty blasted poope into the infinisphere there is no coming back millions of people are legitmately haveing fun now and theres nothing pooe can do about it i will never go back to a gay ass game that makes it impossible to get out of the start area unless ur a level 54 nuketranny meanwhile im already haveway in act 3 and im having more fun than i ever did even back in 2001
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>>733329106
for 10+years we used 3rd party tools to trade, price check, set up item filters and to check public builds.

Fucking amazed that they didn't go "hey we should develop a system for these to be IN GAME"

I guess we got async trade finally. Although I think you still need to buy a premium stash tab for it?

Oh yeah, another fucking gripe. The inconsistent NEARBY tag.
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>>733309273
Most of the time its one enabler skill and then the nuke one, but it depends on the class and build. Some are 1 tap screen clear, some of them you have to reapply some buff, some of them you have to apply a debuff on the enemy first.
My issue with it is, what the skill do are hard codded. For example, some skills work solely as an enabler, and you can never change that. They will never work as your main source of damage, regardless of how much you pump them. In PoE1 you could use any skill as your screen clear with enough investment, PoE2 system on the other hand is super rigid, which makes meme builds and such almost impossible to do, so there is even LESS creativity and variety in builds.
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>>733328649
Lab isn't fun, it's just fast (and it'll stop being fast once the troon who makes the maps 41%s himself). Chaos trial is kind of shit but the sugma trial gives decent rewards.
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>>733329740
I liked trading in poe1 it felt social. Sure for convenience asynchronous trading is nice but too often we trade convenience for soul
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>>733329169
>Liking grim dawn and titan quest shit thaste
>liking grindan game where the developers abuse the player, literally only liked by retarded whales and no life losers.........LE good taste

Grim.....dawn
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I was probably never going to play trade but I'm definitely not going to do so now with asynch.
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>>733328225
>I find the speed of poe2 to be satisfactory
I haven't played since the very start of 0.3, are the maps still fuckhuge and a waste of time unless you get the boots with speed? While on the subject, did magic find get fixed? How is the endgame now?
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>>733330162
Maps are still too big but if you were having issues getting boots with movespeed you're probably a retard so the maps aren't really your problem. Rarity is still broken but they've confirmed they're getting rid of it.. eventually. Endgame is better but mostly the same. Endgame got ignored this league because the new temple mechanic is basically poe2's delve so it is now the endgame for most people. Next patch is the huge endgame rework.. allegedly.
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>bing bing wahooing around the map like a spazz is le good

Cancer gameplay. Actual drooling out of the mouth retard tier of gamplay.
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>>733330162
I was surprised that they actually added smaller, more linear maps. Most of them are still fuckhuge barren fields though
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>>733330706
Agreed. It was neat in PoE when it first happened but the problems eventually showed themselves
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>>733330739
The further in the story you go the less open the maps are, at least in the sense of being a big empty field.
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All the classes I actually want to play are the ones they haven't added yet
So I wait
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>>733330847
I meant the actual endgame maps
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They already ruined the game turning it into poe1slop.
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is the anti zoom just cope for having slow shit builds?
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if you find what they turned poe2 into fun you are a soulless nigger. poe1 sucks ass and so do you and so does poe2 now.
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>>733331532
ah yes. "slow shit builds" at level 3 when you have 2 skill points and 3 abilities and you just spam one of them over and over again with no challenge or engagement whatsoever.
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>>733331532
No before poe2 was announced people were regularly BEGGING GGG to slow the game down. It was too fast. You weren't engaging with the game at all, you would get instagibed without knowing what killed you, and all the game was was pianoing flasks while you jumped from pack to pack. I dont know if poe1 is still that fast but it was a problem. People already criticize these games as being slot machines for retards, and the speed you pulled the slot machine at in poe1 made it hard to argue otherwise
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>>733305935

honestly thought it was pretty shit.

>story is basically just Diablo 2
>scripted sequences everywhere
>level design is boring and very Diablo 3-esque
>no cinematics
>uninteresting characters
>almost nothing to break up the monotonous gameplay which barely changes from start to end
>build creation isn't really possible until after campaign is over
>Act 2 and 4 have this hamfisted way of teleporting you around the map even though waypoints already exist
>loading screens everywhere
>boss fights are full of invulnerability sections where you just have to wait

Doesn't really seem like 25 years of progress has been applied here, in fact aside from the graphics the gameplay has actually degenerated
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>>733331532
No people want what was advertised in the game trailers
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>>733331720
>uninteresting characters
I actually liked the characters in act 1, really good voice acting, RIGHT up to the point they added a character that did nothing except complain that getting jailed for committing adultery was too harsh. This character serves no other purpose, she doesn't act as a vendor, unlocks a new mechanic, has any quest, or is otherwise involved in the story. After that I tuned off.
>boss fights are full of invulnerability sections where you just have to wait
This is why I don't get, its fine for the very first time you fight I boss, why not disable the phase transition animations from then on? Its so fucking annoying having to wait 90 seconds to get the loot of the act 1 boss every time you kill it. Its like the devs are terminally retarded and don't even play the game they make. I don't like bringing up other games, but the director of FFXIV does every raid himself and has a 95% parse, so there's some sort of quality check there. There is none in PoE2.
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>>733305935
I play it for a week or two each league, waiting for 0.5
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Genuinely asking what's wrong with Grim Dawn? Also is Diablo 2 resurrected worth getting now that it is on steam
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>>733331532
>it's either super retarded
>or slow shit

Kinda sad how you have to breath my oxygen, the average poe2 player everyone.
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>>733331716
>You weren't engaging with the game at all, you would get instagibed without knowing what killed you, and all the game was was pianoing flasks while you jumped from pack to pack. I dont know if poe1 is still that fast
It still is, and that is what every streamer wants PoE2 to be as well, and GGG only listens to them over anything else.
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>>733307598
A lot of this conflict feels like ideas of what PoE2 was going to be being railroaded into what PoE1 already is because they have to release a game soon. PoE2 has the dodge rolls and methodical combos but still has the super aggro monster hordes and that combination cannot coexist. You need fast, efficient moves to deal with the Musuo-tier enemy density.
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>>733332803
i don't play poe2, that game has no idea which audience it wants.
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>>733332704
Nothing is inherently wrong with its systems but it is a very uninspired and boring game. It's literally just titan quest with a different coat of paint. Titan Quest's gameplay was fine for its time, but to make a new game and not innovate at all or make it more fun is a travesty. These games are more than just build autism to me. The gameplay itself has to be fun too, and it's not in grim dawn
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started a poison archer build, can't believe how much fun I'm having though my last character was a skeleton army so the early game was really rough.
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>roll into enemies
>gets turned into sprint
>literally body blocked by enemies so im not moving
>a slap on the wrist makes me fall over and get heavy stunned

Apparently they can't put sprint and roll on different buttons though. This game is amateur garbage
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>>733334398
no you dont get it
its enganging
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If they don't rework Trial of Suckmas and Trial of Chaos next patch...
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>>733335121
i had a much easier time with trial of suckmyass this league compared to when i played it on launch (didnt play anything in between) to the point where i was able to one shot each trial at their respective levels. granted i was using a good build (shield wall) but the boons and debuffs you can select felt a lot more impactful this league. i also didn't get unlucky with run killer debuffs (did they take those out?).
trials of chaos though still feels like complete dogshit to run. honestly fuck whoever came up with it. stupid nigger
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>>733334398
how can you move fast if you don't roll over into your sprint start position first bro? Did you EVER see a sprinter not roll at the start of a race? Absurd...
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>>733335641
NTA trials is my favorite content in the game. You just need to use spectre wasp minions with a wolf pack. I only use wasd to move and afk half the stages with 11k ES. You gotta get a lazy build and just kinda afk through it.
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I like Delirium. I wish I could run it all the time.
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>>733305935
This is the worst arpg to ever exist and that fat gook Jonathan should just rope himself.
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diving deep deep deep deep DEEP DEEP DEEP DEEEEEP into Atziri's temple.
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>>733335641
Trials of chaos is ultimatum from a poe 1 league, even the taskmaster. It was a boring league and its even worse in 2
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>>733336243
oh who cares
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Half of the major boons in ToS don't even work. This shit has been bugged for months and they haven't fixed shit. What's the fucking point of a live service?
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>>733314651
>AH so armor health is still shite despite me hearing it got overhauled, eh?
Yup. In POE 1 armour had tons of supplementary skills to boost its effectiveness such as fortify, endurance charge stacking, flesh and stone, guard skills, etc. on top of the passive tree having lots of health and regen nodes. The POE2 tree has NONE of the defensive options I've listed, and the few health/regen nodes there are give laughable amounts of it. It's so bad that every single warrior build is stacking fire res and fire to phys conversion just to stay alive. Meanwhile ES characters just get 12k health with tons of juicy nodes that boost it by a lot. The other anons are spot on and match what I've been saying for a year now: The game feels maliciously antagonistic towards the player because the head devs are retarded.



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