unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.
POSION SONG WHEN
>>733491594Soon™
>>733491594if i had to guess and im just a guy who lurks on the dev discord, probably 2nd half of this year, idk.
There really needs to be a few alternatives the the Boots of Blinding Speed. I'd be happy with only 50 extra points of speed if it means I can wear literally any other pair of boots. Fuck, I'll take something that drains my magicka and applies sun damage.
>>733493998isn't there a random even for one outside old ebonheart? I think it damaged you instead.
>>733493998I'm on my first playthrough and I chose a breton mage and the game was basically unplayable until I hunted down those boots. NOW it's insanely fun because the speed + low health makes this feel like I'm playing wizard DOOM.Otherwise I'd just be standing there like a jackass taking the hits and hitting back, that's boring.
i look like this
>>733493998there is the boots of lightning speed, its south of old ebonheart, around Vhul i think.
how good is "weakness to xyz"in Morrowind spell?cost wise it is better to make damage over time spells in destruction, if I make a spell that has>apply weakness to fire for 1 second>100 fire damage over 5 secondswill the all the 5 seconds benefit from increased damage or just the first tick of the spell?
>>733491557I look like this and do this.
>>733494970the weakness effect wont apply to damage from that same spellyou need to apply a weakness effect, and them separately apply a damage effect
>>733491557If betadha was capable at all they would put a load companion in tes6
>>733491557Looks ike the cyclops from dark souls
>>733491557so bad animation
>>733500835+ Izzat 1
>>733500910sir even silt striders have better animation
>>733501021+ izzat 10
>fat bastard amphibian race of mafiososBravo, Todd!
>>733494970Weakness to magicka is interesting if you apply it repeatedly because each application makes them weaker to it so it keeps getting stronger. It works better if you use different spells since you can only have one effect from each spell. Then you could use a weakness to fire or something and it will be bigly amplified, or just use a magick effect. Not usually necessary in morrowind because there is easier more broken shit but it can be fun if you need to kill something fat.>will the all the 5 seconds benefit from increased damage or just the first tick of the spell?Weakness will apply to the whole 5 seconds, but like anon said I think the weakness effect needs to already be there from another spell. So you would start with weakness for 1 or 2 seconds (not sure 1 is enough), then apply the damage spell. Or apply multiple weaknesses if you want (but they need to be separate spells or they won't stack)
>>733491557that thing just farted in the water
>>733502041Jacuzzi, nice.
>>733501204The character in the OP is himself a big Star Wars reference. He's even got a Bosmer right hand man in reference to how Jabba had a twi'lek right hand man, both races with ugly males but pretty females.
What do we think of CRT shaders
>>733502041it's his personal bath who cares
>>733502253it's one thing i personally have no nostalgia tinted glasses for. I despise it when modern games put film grain in as a default
>>733497149>>733494970Wrong, that's how it works in Oblivion but in Morrowind you can just use a 1 sec weakness in the same spell but the key thing is it needs to be above the dmg effect when making the spell.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Weakness_to_Element
>>733502562This one is very modular, so I can remove grain and blacklight, grain adds something while blacklight just makes it impossible to see during nighttime.
>>733493998I always just use a stamina mod desu.
>>733491557They make soap from these guys?
>>733504391yeah
>>733501204But Kirkbride made them
>>733491557I like that they actually recognize the fact that Sload aren't actually supposed to be nakey like that all the time.
>>733509467unfortunately the clothed sload models look retarded
>>733509697I think they're gonna do new ones
>>7334915942090
bathing/showering is my fetish
>>733502253I don't use them for 3D games but for 2D ones where the sprites were designed with CRT in mind (sub-pixels) I use them.
What's your favorite TR armor set? I really love the Kvetchi Steel set. It looks so alien an unique.
>>733511093don't have TR installed and swear to Azura I am being gaslit because I cannot find screenshots of itit was called "Dust Trader", similar to this except the cloth parts were purple ish
>>733511873Oh I've seen NPCs in Narsis wear that armor.
>>733511873Dust Adept?
>>733511093I like this one, I hope they implement it soon
>>733491557How do I achieve this natty
>>733512757Tip of his nose finna get squished inside that eldar dome lole.
>>733491557He's like me
>>733513485Representation matters.
>>733493998Most of you use them? I've never felt the need, but then again I like feeling immersed so I don't use exploits.
>>733512858daily strenght excersise, constant ale drinking, put fat on fat (mayo on fries f.eks) never put the snack down
>>733491557>>733501204god i love fat slobby monsters>>733502041based king
>>733512858be a gastropod
>>733510753goddamn what the fuck that's literally me
>>733512757how does he see
>>733516489probably one sided glass like material
>>733513886Imagine him fucking a cute high school girl
>>733517085modders I beg yougive him buckteeth and glasses
>set on a doomed space ship>evil entity taunting you>possessions by worm creaturesHang on, this mod is System Shock 2!
>>733517568got any pure mage oriented mod recommendations magic man?
Okay, the final boss wasn't as bad as I heard, but I was pretty high level. Neat mod though, I chose to fight whatever the hell he was rather than going for the DUSK style ending where he possesses you but you get all his powers. The loot you get from killing him is awesome though, especially since I wear the Mananaut gear anyway so it's just a straight upgrade for me.>>733519224Honestly, I don't have many to recommend. I mainly just play Tamriel Rebuilt, this was a rare quest mod I bothered to add because Beyond the Firmament sounded so good. Fair Magicka Regen and that one Trainwiz made that makes INT scale like fatigue are nice though.
>>733491557big chunk of soap
>>733517085untethered
Edgy. What skull is that even, I guess Molag Bal has horns like that but not in Morrowind. And who is the chick?
>>733520649It's his sprite form Daggerfall, so who knows.
>>733520649Meridia or her acolyte if I had to guess, she like to be golden
>>733520809Maybe he's the daedric prince Jeffery Epstein and just wanted a pervy staff?
does he shid / piss in that pool?
>>733520649I don't like this version. Look at >>7335208091. his hand is bent down, giving the feeling of pulling and weight, the grip is like it's a toy2. the same for the woman standing on one leg3. his torso and head are turned to the woman slightly, giving the feeling of interaction and dynamicsCheap fake 3d copy, I'm disappointed.
>>733521082he's a Sload and a master alchemist he probably found a way to release his waste directly into the air or turn it into magicka maybe he doesn't even need to piss or shit due to being immortal
>>733491557Would
>>733517568No, it's Event Horizon.
>>733493998Reward for Hlaalu quests in Narsis.
>>733494329That whole quest is hilarious.
>>733522250Yeah, I can see that working too.You never really find out what the entity was, just that it's called The Serpent and is linked to the constellation in game.
>>733522503It's from the lore: the constellations in universe are basically gods.https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Serpent
>>733491557he looks like a nortubel character
OpenMW or MWSE? Played TR in MP so was using OpenMW, is it worth switching for my own playthrough?
>>733523005OpenMW works better but does not have access to some script features. TR has spells that are only available in the MWSE version of the game.
Guess this is the best thread to ask this. If anyone has had experience with these mods, which of these lich mods did you prefer and why? https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42658https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42945And do either of them work with tamriel rebuilt?
>>733491557He seems like a quaint guyWouldn't mind grabbing an ale with him, ogling at some Dunmer babes, and just shootin the shit with
>>733523005Whatever you prefer. There are few noticeable differences between them, but basically:>OpenMW is easier to install if you can't into files and I think it comes with a few small changes to the way the game works for better (and in a few minor cases worse)>MWSE involves more messing around but allows for easier script extension so a bunch of mods only work with it for nowSome anons like to vastly astroturf one or the other in some bizarre attempt at "discrediting" the one they don't use, so watch out for that.
What's the best questline in Anvil?
>>733522376They’ll probably delete it in a redo just like they’re deleting the horse quest in Old Ebonheart
>>733523957What? Why are they deleting that?
>>733517568I know people shit on the final boss for this mod but I thought it was neat>He's really dangerous>I end up using scrolls to fight him which I've been saving all game with no need for, so figured this may as well be it>In the end I remember this one spell that eats my magicka bar like nothing else that I made early in the game>It does a fuck ton of shock damage but I found it unfeasible to use due to the cast cost>Well, it's do or die>Chug some high level alchemy brewed magicka potions>Blast the fuck over and over>His health stops being chipped away by my other stuff and plummetsIt was pretty cool. I was using the quest as a send-off for my mage so having a neat game mechanic call-back to my first created spell to win the final battle felt like something an actual story would use.
>>733524054It’s le not in line with current development standards. They’re going to redo it and move it to Kragenmoor instead when that city comes out in 5 years.
>>733524616I don't think Kragenmoor is that far away
>>733491557
>>733525614How does Vivec work in-universe? Does everybody live in the canton waistworks like bugs or are the plazas at the top supposed to be more town-like and contain residential buildings? Or maybe everybody lives in the two residential cantons and the others are just for work or something.
>>733525614is there anything like pic related (steppingwells in India) in TR on a massive scale?
>>733525951Sancre Tor in PT (after Sutch and Kvatch releases) is supposed to be kinda like that
>>733525883I really liked the BCOM mod with the open plazas on top of the cantons but the “official” mod in that pic is more distributing them onto those smaller island cantons
>>733526039Isn't it supposed to be a hill though
>Want to make a new character>Knowing how long the game can be I'm undecided whether I actually want to do thisI'm thinking of doing the main quest and tribunal (and ending it all with Sotha Sil Expanded). I went through the main quest a year ago but then got distracted exploring Tamriel Rebuilt too. I also installed a horrible mod that made Dagoth Ur sound like an edgelord and filled the final dungeons with retarded instakill traps, which I won't be using this time.
>>733491557This is my favorite picture of me.
>sload are creatures instead of a race so you can't as play themBros...
>>733524342That's actually sweet. Reminds me of MAR the anime where the mc did the exact same thing, made some OP spell at the beginning he couldn't use until later.
Are sloads the most slandered race in Elder Scrolls?They're the only race that pose a meaningful threat to the (((Altmer))) so they get slandered as being sociopathic necromancers when we're all actually pretty cool guys.
>>733530505>we'reworm hands typed this post
>>733530310skill issue on TR's part
>>733530505They worship an Altmer now
>>733501204I thought they were a race of necromancers and disease spreaders.
>>733530613looks stupid
>>733525614this is not vivec
>>733516641Of course!
>>733534032then who is it
>>733536418ceviv
>>733525883If we ever saw Vivec in its full scale, I'd imagine that you'd likely see many apartments on the exterior, like in the Saint Districts, with a number more in the waistworks (which are likely a lot better looking then their in-game apperance), with the higher classes occupying the upper canton.Then again, it's quite possible that the population of Vivec is deliberately low for its size, given that it is supposed to be a religious site.
>>733525883Vivec is much larger than what you see in game. In game you are seeing a scaled down abstraction. Nearly all game cities and towns work like that. It's also one of the reasons open worlds tend to feel so small, because the scale usually used feels too 1:1, so it makes it hard to recognize that it's really not and the what you are seeing of the world is both shrunk and truncated and when you character travels a mile it actually represents a far larger distance.
>>733520649>And who is the chick?Maybe Dibella or a priestess of her? They are enemies in Daggerfall.Sanguine's sphere is more or less a corruption of Dibella's virtues and erotism, so it's probably pretty easy for him to mislead and capture her priests.
>>733502239>He's even got a Bosmer right hand man in reference to how Jabba had a twi'lek right hand man, both races with ugly males but pretty females.I thought the bosmer was a reference to that cackling fuck Jabba always has by his side?
>>733537353He specifically draws attention to the fact Bosmer men are ugly in comparison to the females in his dialogue so yeah he's probably supposed to be the Bib Fortuna of the operation
>>733511093Ayleid armor. Sadly, there's no masked version yet but I assume it's on the developers to-do list.
>>733493998Get these
>>733524616They got buck broken by some stupid reddit fag that wrote a 4000 word essay bitching about old ebonheart and are bending over backwards to change everything that he complained about.
>>733511093
>Yupee nub nub!
>>733539617>Eat this: God's Fire!
>>733524342I was just confused by that boss.>Get told you can't go out there without a Mananaut suit, because it's Elder Scrolls space and therefore some strange unreality you have to shield your existence from>The boss breaks your helmet in seconds and you're totally fine breathing in all the weird unstar essence and whatnot
>>733523957>deleting the horse quest in Old EbonheartWhat?! I loved that quest. It served as a good explanation on why there isn't any horses in Morrowind.
>>733539035The reasoning seems to make sensehttps://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/claims/kragenmoor-where-has-horse-gone-refitThe real shame is they're cutting back the tourney, though I suppose that's more of an endgame quest for when PT is further along
>>733524616That's fine then. That quest really is very out of place in that particular location.
>>733539617>>733539778
>>733538351Bird pussy....
>>733523928Kingdom of Anvil and Thieves Guild are the centerpieces and sort of intertwine.
>read Berenziah books>book mentions how she needed specific mushroom to reach adulthood that grew in Morrowind and it was apparently pricey>zero mention outside the bookwhat the fuck was that all about
>>733541398Daggerfall lore was weird sometimes.
>>733517085https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wMbuMETEcs
>>733541441That's what happens when you use a random QA tester to write your lore books for you
>>733538459>slowfall 1ptworthless
>youtube.com/watch?v=2qyIc0Wb5cYHe's right you know
>>733541441They made the Dunmer unable to fuck unless this specific thing grew. They made them into fucking kakapos.
>>733540398I need that hat sorry
>>733541991It's actually remarkable how Morrowind and New Vegas trigger so many people just by being good games with deep lore that people want to immerse themselves in
>>733542256But why would you invest yourself on that when you can read the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Ab Urbe Condita
>>733539909>One of the routes should lead to a "good" resolution. The only options available right now are to lie to the knight or to let him kill 1-3 people due to a cultural misunderstanding.but that is the good ending
>>733541991I don't get what he's shitting himself over.>I liked Morrowind>BUT I HATE THE FANS BECAUSE THEY ENJOY MORROWIND!Ok?
>>733539160Absolutely awesome. Love the callback to Shadowkey here.
>>733542379You have just called into question 99.999% of all media. Why read, play, or watch anything when you can immerse yourself in this one ultimate piece of media? Why do we need all these games, movies and books? We need one ultimate book that we will all read all the time without question.
>>733542379Can't mod trains into that.
>>733542542Has Sotha Sil gone too far?
>>733540650t. Topal
>>733542639Sotha Sil isn't the train guy, Reman is the train guy.
>>733542256>>733542383>he doesn't know
>>733542717It's probably just a shitpost but there are definitely people who think that way.
>>733541991How can he possibly be right if he didn't even spell nuke with a V?
>>733542697Sotha Sil is a huge autist. Surely he'd love trains.
>>733542697>dwemer gondolai'm too high for this shit
>>733541958>>slowfall 1ptThat's fine though, it means no fall damage
>>733542857Sometimes you get the bad kind of autism, the one that doesn't love train.
>>733543078Well that Sotha Sucks.
>tfw waiting for Wealth Beyond Measure before I play TR because I want to do a full Hlaalu playthruIt’s gonna be a long wait fellas
>>733543208Is that worth it? As far as I know, the main quest is finished and they'll just add more Hlaalu territories with more quests.
HE'S THE ANGRIEST MAN WHO EVER LIVED!
>>733542697>no indoor voice>poor social skills>lack of empathy>recycled his own semen>weird pets (Tsaesci)>loved trainsWas he Tamriel's most autistic emperor?
>>733543286
>>733539035He's right, though. When TR is good, it's great, but it's a grab bag of quality with some real cringe shit.
>>733543653Haven't they already added this in Grasping Fortune? I remember helping various influential houses and becoming a Grandmaster. This post was made before the release of Grasping Fortune so it seems they decided to release it earlier after all.
>>733543178He's Sotha Kill for a reason.
I want to start a new playthrough but I can't remember how to mod on steam deck
>>733543653>>733544069Nvm I'm retarded
>>733538459I can't believe I found these at level 1
>>733538459>Oh no I'm weaker to diseases but I can make large jumps infinitelyWhy?? What kind of balenced trade off is that?
>>733544471When you're low level those diseases can be a real bitch.
>>733544471I always skip the Nerevarine plot stuff in my TR playthrough so it's actually a bitch for me
>>733541991When and where did Kirkbride say the boner thing?
>>733544604I love the man but he could have said ANYTHING got a boner.
>>733522293>Playing HlaaluYuck
>>733491557>>733501204So what are their actual plans for Thras? It can't just be the one tiny surface lagoon on their map, can it?
>>733543438God, Kirkbride's art is so cool. He is even able to make adorable art at times.
>>733504391Specifically, they make soap from their babies. The Sload do, from their own babies. They don't give a shit.
>>733544951I don't think they're actually planning to have it in game. The lore they made for it is that it's a bunch of artificial islands with an extremely tall tower at the center that basically reaches into space which the Sload use as a station for their airships and to go wherever the fuck they want without anyone being capable of bothering them.
>>733542685>Dreds side shaveFucking ew.
>>733544832>Playing as the winnersbased>INB4 "b-but muh sharthesda fanfiction!"
>>733541991Anyone using sharty memes doesn't qualify as an intelligent lifeform.
>>733542256I greatly prefer both of those games over the rest of their franchises, but that's just a natural of people really not liking elitism and being told that the things they like aren't that great because of some nerdy reason they personally couldn't give a fuck about
>>733546460>natural of*natural consequence of
>>733544976Imagine being a big bad monkey man and hating this fat baby.
I was thinking, are there any other mods from the other TES games that compare in size/content to Tamriel Rebuilt or is it simply the biggest at this point. One that comes to mind is Enderal, a lot of effort put into it, but I wouldn't say it's nearly as massive in scale as TR. In general I'm not as knowledgeable on Skyrim mods.
>>733543653I think it's kinda lame the city has nothing for you if you're not Hlaalu though. Redoran players will have to wait 5 years to get a similar treatment and Telvanni 10+.
>>733530613looks fucking amazing
>>733546231Even without post-Morrowind lore, Tiber Septim himself comes up and tells you pointblank at the end of the game the Empire is about to die. The Hlaalu are about to eat shit regardless when the power structure they pinned themselves to falls apart.
>>733545110I think they do plan to have it in the game, because they're planning on including the various Eltheric Islands on the map (already did Stirk, Stros and the Chain are coming up after Rihad) and Summerset. To not include Thras at that point would be equivalent to have a filled in map with a blank space in the middle for no reason.
>>733546787TR Hlaalu's whole thing is that they want to eventually fuck over BOTH the Empire and the other Houses, they're not just Imperial vassals entirely dependent on the Septims
>>733546863And that requires your active participation to make happen, if I'm not a Hlaalu fag they're not getting their way.
>>733542685>killmonger hairstyleThere's a million other hairstyles to choose from if you want to do something Africa-esque.
>>733546994Making the culturally and technologically degenerated tribal people who live wild in the woods African inspired is kinda racist aint it?
>>733544976He should do more cute drawings
>>733547047pretty sure PTR wild ayleids live in whole hidden cities with fancy architecture and everything, they're not actually primitives
>>733547047Because the lady in the original drawing I was responding to had kinky hair like a black person idiot. You're putting words in my mouth because of your own personal issues.
>>733546586None that I can think of, there's Beyond Skyrim, which hasn't released anything beyond the Bruma area in Cyrodiil. Wymstooth, Falskaar, Lordbound are other new lands to explore but not as massive as TR.
>>733547154Pretty sure you're missing my point that giving the tribals African-inspired hair for no reason (read: they're not the actual African-inspired people in the first place, you just glued that to them out of the blue) shows someone has a negative bias against those people. If someone slapped that hair on some nomadic Redguards in Hammerfell you can justify it regardless, but if you slap it on the Ayleids who you kinda glued some Mesoamerican bird cult stuff too then suddenly you have to explain yourself. Why would this random Ayleid have hair like an African? Why did you make that association? Is it because she's a tribal? That's racist.>>733547241I'm pointing out the issue of slapping a kinky hairstyle on the Wild Elves when they were not a kinky-haired people in the first place, this is basic logic.
>>733547356>I'm pointing out the issue of slapping a kinky hairstyle on the Wild Elves when they were not a kinky-haired people in the first placeOkay well maybe in TR lore Ayleid elves have kinky hair? If your issue is with the drawing itself why did it only become an issue when I complained about the stupid killmonger hair? Like the other anon said they aren't "tribal" which is a pretty loaded term to use for someone fighting against racism, and even if they were nobody implied it was a negative thing until you opened your mouth. The only thing I really care about is the killmonger hair because it looks like shit everywhere it appears.
>>733547652>Okay well maybe in TR lore Ayleid elves have kinky hair?They don't. You can see that in the other character pictured in that art and in various other bits of concept art they've released for them. This is basically the equivalent of walking into a tribe in the Amazon Jungle and they all look like South American natives except this one girl who is Ashanti.>Why did it only become an issue when IIt didn't. Don't be so self-absorbed, your post was just a good spot to highlight the issue I had with them inserting that hairstyle because you also complained about it (for different reasons.)>They aren't tribalThey are, but you're the one associating 'tribal' with 'primitive' here.
>>733546847Yeah it's on the map now (not like they're getting there anytime soon ofc).
>>733493998Just use Jump spells like a normal person
>>733546569He HATES him
>>733547961Which brings me to my point that surely they want to do more with Thras and the Sload than a tiny island.
>>733491557without spoiling it, where do I need to go to start the quest that leads to meeting this guy?
>>733548048Go to the Narsis Foreign Sewer hideout or the abandoned hut in Ald Iuval (doing the latter first feels much more natural imo)
>>733548004I wonder if they'll ever go into why he hated the Minotaurs beyond just "He thinks they tainted human purity" when they're basically just a new race of Men coming into being via an et'ada. Did he have some kind of issue with Morihaus?
>>733547912>They don't.Retard they just posted concept art for it where they depicted an Ayleid with that sort of hair. Cyrodiil is a big place, there's probably a variety of different looking elves that live there. >They are, but you're the one associating 'tribal' with 'primitive' here.Show me where I did. >Is it because she's a tribal? That's racist.You're either disingenuous or you're actually a fucking numbskull.
>>733548197IIRC there's some PTR book that claims minotaurs were kicked out of cyrodiilic society because they eventually became massive cunts. Dunno if it's supposed to be the actual truth tho
>>733548187oh wow, if I had just looked around, I would've found the sewers
>>733548240>Retard they just posted concept art for it where they depicted an Ayleid with that sort of hair.They posted a ton of concept art of Ayleids and she is literally the only one like that.>Cyrodiil is big there's probably...We're talking about one type of elf. If she was intended to be a Left-Handed Elf or whatever then it wouldn't be worthy of complaint. Instead she's the odd Ayleid out.>Show me where I did>>733547154>You're being disingenuousNo, I'm pointing out a probably unconscious bias the artist is expressing. "I need a hairstyle for this tribal person and I don't care if I'm ignoring their cultural or ethnic design. Hmm what's a good hairstyle for this tribal person living in the jungle. Hmm, I know, an African hairstyle!" Like you don't do that unless you have an unconscious bias. Otherwise it's the equivalent of having your white girl living in Medieval France rocking cornrows, just a complete lack of care for the culture, location, and era you're writing about. The fact that the killmonger hair is just objectively ugly on its own simply makes it worse, if they gave her something fancy or creative I could at least ascribe artistic inspiration to it.
>>733548037Probably. They like making stuff on the map bigger. Daggerfall in their plans is now twice the size that it was in the 2023 version of the map.
>>733548635The city? Did they make it as big as Wayrest? If I had to guess I would think the initial shape of the city was always really tentative.
>"We have prepared for every possible horrific outcome...but what if it all turns out alright?"
>>733548505You're talking to multiple people because everyone thinks you're being thick
>>733549091My point remains regardless of, it's not something you've been able to address in whole or in part.
>>733548750Nah, the province.
Was Marukh right?
>>733516489He plays in third person
>>733549893Well that one is silly, because it'll lead to more empty space than anything.>>733550120About?
>>733550120Their goals are laughably stupid and impossible to achieve, but the Marukhati are very knowledgeable about metaphysics. See Skeleton Man's Interview and Xal. It's probably their teachings along with other Cyrodiilic mystic traditions that taught Tiber Septim about CHIM.
>>733550968the fireside chat with Kirkbride about Marukh was greathttps://en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Fireside_Chat_-_Reman_and_the_Shonni-etta
>>733517568What mod? Is it any good?
>>733550120Orangutans are so great
>>733550968I mean hey, they broke the dragon. That counts for something.
did whoever wrote the final stretch of the narsis mages guild just forget that morrowind doesn't have quest markers or something? the dremora dude just expects me to track down one specific ghost in the enormity that is the narsis catacombs (and there were no directions for his shrine either)
>>733551167Beyond the Firmament
>>733548197>>733548298If I had to guess (and this is my personal headcanon based on the PTR wiki) the Minotaurs exile from society *might* have been related to some mythopoeic experiments the Marukhati were conducting to gather data for the Middle Dawn. The monkeys wanted to figure out how gods "worked" so they could learn how to break them, and where better to start than a race begat by a demigod? So they start rounding them up and shipping them off for experimentation. They were Alessia's children, yes, but a worthy sacrifice to a noble goal. Or I could be wrong, idk it's fun to think about>>733550120>"Hmmm...perhaps. But then again, no."
You know I re-read A Dance in Fire recently and I thought it was interesting how relatively normal and friendly the Bosmer are when they're not exploding into Dawn monsters. Sure they have pirates and crooked politicians like everyone else, but they live pretty relatable lives (even when their cities are pretty and exotic) and treat the protagonist well. Absolutely nothing like the Dunmer or Altmer, who fucking DESPISE foreigners by default. Pretty much all the protagonist's problems are from wildlife or Khajiit raiders.
>>733553520Thats how you know theres something wrong with them. Never trust a friendly elf as far as you can throw them
>>733553520They're also the most chill about having families with humans and stuff. Bosmer get a bad rap because of Fargoth and the Adoring Fan, but they're pretty cool. My dream ES6 is in Valenwood, it's not gonna happen but a man can dream.
>>733553852Come on anon, don't be that way. Drink your Rotmeth and eat your Unthrappa and be friends.>>733554024Bosmer seem to integrate rather well in other provinces. You find them all over the place and nobody really has anything negative to say about them beyond bigger races pushing the men around sometimes.
>>733554115What would a Valenwood game be about? Do they have a Nerevar-equivalent in their lore? Assuming the protagonist is a special person rather than just a random nobody.
>>733555106PGE3 has some mention of some kind of hero figure I think, but that's about it.
>>733555106you'll be the woodborn, they can just pull it out their ass
>>733554024why do some of them grow horns
>>733555106Wild hunt powers
>>733557607The men do because they're meant to be ugly as fuck while the women are meant to be tall and gorgeous. They're R. Crumb if he was a fantasy race.
>>733557607The original concept for Bosmer in the Redguard-Morrowind era is that Bosmer men look like various ugly humanoid forest creatures (goblins etc.) while their women looked like various pretty humanoid forest creatures. So all Bosmer could possibly have random animal features in line with that theme, including antlers. Of course this didn't really make it into the game beyond Bosmer men being short and ugly and their women being taller and pretty, all the exotic features got removed.
>>733491557>Stealth and crime are fundamentally brokenShit game
>>733557723>Of course this didn't really make it into the gameAkshually one of the default male bosmer faces in vanilla morrowind has tiny little horn nubs
>>733542256>Morrowind and New VegasWhy are these two always linked despite being different franchises and made by different developers?
>>733557805And that's all. You can't make any of these ugly bastards >>733557682 in the game.
>yfw playable sloads in TES VI>figuring out how to get their armor to work and get them through doors and riding horses is why the game is taking so long
>>733553520I severely wanted the next elder scrolls to be Valenwood. Looks like nobody is going to dare attempt to make a zone where the entire forest slowly walks around along with its cities, like no engine is built to gracefully handle something like that I think and I would guess they would just retcon out the walking forest part like Cyrodiil's jungles.
>>733557809Both are games with very dedicated niche fanbases largely composed of lore/worldbuildingfags who infamously resent the other games in their respective franchises for not being anywhere near as autistic thus earning the enmity of more casual fans/dedicated fans of the other games
>>733557896I hope they have more in-depth height and weight sliders on par with Dragon's Dogma. I want to make my character an ugly bastard.
>>733491557uwu
>>733558032this is a bad thing?
>>733558032NVfags don't resent Fallout 1-2, and Morrowindfags don't resent Arena through Redguard (though Daggerfall fans do hate them.)
>>733558031ESO already did that, they justified it as some mystical event causing all the graht-oaks (the walking trees) to root in place.
>>733558595Skyrim also did that, the big trees are said to have stopped migrating for some mysterious oblivion crisis/thalmor reason during the 4th era
I want to make a mod set in 3e417 10 years before the start of Morrowind proper. What would Vvardenfell look like then? Any ideas for a main questline or some side quests?
>>733558762At that time Vvardenfell would have been just 3 years into its reorganization into an Imperial district rather than a Temple reserve, so there'd probably be an even bigger emphasis on all the colonists arriving from abroad and the local Dunmer being annoyed with it. Basically just even more of a frontier.
>>733539035Imagine being this butthurt because over a mod connecting to base game content and reusing assets.
>>733558530>Daggerfall fansThese don't exist>but but butBy Azura, they DON'T exist
>>733560837They used to exist, sometimes people here will post screencaps of old forum posts from them complaining about no banks or whatever.
>>733560837they did exist, before you were born zoomzoom
>>733532717cool it with the antisloadism
>>733560986I'm a millennial though be it
>>733532717the disease was just a justification for the Tamrielic invaders go and nearly genocide them
>>733491557Oh a Morrowind thread, based. I haven't played in a decade. OpenMW the way to go for it?Should I use the I-Heart-Vanilla version or the Cut-Content version?
>>733561469Always use best attack = offBeast raceMedium ArmorNo alchemyNo Amulet of ShadowsNo Apprentice or Atronach birthsignsNo bound equipment spellsNo creature merchantsNo custom enchantmentsNo custom spellsNo Mark, Recall, Divine Intervention, or Almsivi InterventionNo selling Dark Brotherhood assassin armor + delayed expansions modNo other modsNo tauntingNo training
>>733561537Is that OpenMW settings? Last time I played Morrowind I used a DVD disc so I don't know of all that new fancy stuff
>>733523141how many spells are we talking? as a wizard chad, I certainly don't want to miss out on cool magic.
>>733561652Nope, that's all regular morrowind stuff. You may be unfamiliar with the dark brotherhood if you didn't play the expansions. He just listed a bunch of restrictions to put on yourself if you want a harder experience.
I forgot about this magazine ad, it used to be everywhere. These old ads make me remember the wonder I used to feel for these worlds. Like anything was possible. I'm still a little scared of a certain tomb near Seyda Neen.
>>733561469I heart vanilla is cool, but I would recommend just vanilla openmw with TR installed.
>>733562961Thanks, I don't remember much of Morrowind so I'm thinking I might just hold off on TR until I get more familiar with it. That way I'm not overwhelmed by everything since I heard TR is BIG.
>>733561537This is how I played the game completely blind on Xbox my first time as a kid, just out of pure ignorance and picking what I thought was cool.
is molag bal evil?
I’d like to continue, but I’m level 50 and nothing is challenging anymore. I haven’t done the main quest and probably haven’t even seen 1/5 of TR/PT. I haven’t even been to Skyrim yet.
>>733563868>Is the King of Rape evil?He's one of the only Daedra you can argue is conclusively 100% factually evil. Most of the others can make a case for themselves. Even Dagon himself is just cursed to be like he is. But not Bal, he's in it for the game, the complete despoilment and ruination of all of Mundus. I think the next most evil would be Vaermina, who also likes corrupting and torturing things, purely for its own sake and not to get her rocks off or demonstrate power and mastery (like Bal often does.)
>>733563868>>733564161
>>733564161what if bal has le sex with vaerm
>>733564629He won't.>>733564753It'd be p gross
>>733539035holy fuck did this fag really write that massive second paragraph about one quest he didn't like
>>733524616https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/Wealth_Beyond_Measure_ExpansionExpected this year and progress is in line with that.
>>733564161Nah, he's also the one who teaches the secret Syllable of Royalty to those who are worthy. He is a sad, pathetic creature, who weeps for lost LYG such that he builds an image of his home, hoping that the next generation of new gods can learn from his mistakes.
>>733566093He didn't do that out of charity or kindness or grief, but in exchange for Vivec's pussy apparently. Also if he really cared about Lyg he'd help the Dreugh build up civilization again instead of being pealed for armor and made into fucking wax like animals.
>>733553520My favorite (non-sermon) book has always been The Hope of the Redoran. Everything aside, it's a cool underdog story of a badass in-game NPC rising to the occasion. But what really elevates it is the mythical set dressing it has, like the mom somehow having it in her to belt out a prophecy as she's dying of child birth and the subsequent dweomer placed upon the baby. It's very reminiscent of the birth of Feanor, where he has such a heavy and fiery passion in him that it exhausts his mother as she's in labor with him and has her wishing for death. Also the allusion to the (later) story of Achilles, with the seemingly-immortal warrior being done in by their one weakness.
>>733554024>Bosmer get a bad rap because of Fargoth and the Adoring Fan, but they're pretty coolThey get a bad rap because they're the lorelet race along with Bretons, and practically every single Bosmer in the entire series is a designated comic relief character. It's impossible to take a race of beady-eyed manlets with some of the goofiest voice-acting across all the games seriously.
>Breton>The Atronach>Mace of Molag BalSimple as
>>733566958>Nord>Atronach>Fists of Randagulf>Dragonbone Cuirass>Ice Blade of The MonarchElementalist builds are always fun
i want to finally play tamriel rebuilt mostly so I don't have to avoid watching some of JustBackgroundNoise's videos where he plays through parts of it (due to spoilers)i think i will use a speari've never used a spear
>>733567118Play a lizard then.Don't be a fag and use a bound spear neither.
>Any time, now..
>>733567173now that you mention it I've never played a beast race either because i'm a boots of blinding speed babby.. but i did see upthread that apparently TR did at least add some greaves mobility options that might help. Maybe i'll try it and just use a boots mod if it's too painful
>>733563868depends on your perspective
>>733493998Just abuse alchemy to create a stash of incredible speed potions you can stack?
>>733491557He... He looks like me.. He's built like me... I... thank you #RepresentationMatters #TheElderScrolls
>>733565262that's only 1/10 of it, the full thing wouldn't fit in one screenshot
>>733539035Aren't the beginning quests in a guild supposed to be menial?
>>733571159Now what is this?
>>733571303Concept art of the mephalan vales remake afaikStill a long way to go, they have to release poison song and finish the hlaalu land before, it's probably on the same horizon as the redoran land IMO a bit sad, the vales are probably the oldest part of TR that still holds up well, contrary to the other half of sacred east, and akamora is One of the highlight of TR
>>733493998OK? Enchant a permanent fortify speed for two billion onto a ring or robe or whatever you want. Fortify speed spell that lasts 30~ secondsfortify speed potionsyou DO have some options, you know. Me personally? Enchanted ring with 20~30 pts of jump, and whatever lik 20 pts of speed, probably more, for 10 seconds. Can hop around like a retard. It's faster.
>>733571706> You do have options.Yes, there are other games on the series.
>>733551167Yeah it was good. The bosses were a little OP, but if you're high level when you get to them you can just chug potions and hit them with your own bullshit right back.
Also>Found a book in the air/apaceship called The Lusty Argonian Witch>It's basically about a shota being drugged and seduced by an Argonian witch with massive tits>He rejects her in book two and she kills him with her titsPerhaps they really are mindless farming equipment after all.
>>733561992Basically, all spells with new effects. So no summoning new creatures or unique stuff like picrel or teleportation.
>>733573329>New spellsDoes that mean the Wabbajack doesn't work in OpenMW either? Not that it's useful, the thing is a meme weapon, but it's funny turning Ordinators into mudcrabs.
It's amazing that Morrowind still doesn't have any sex mods. I guess there is not much you can do with those stiff models.You'd think MWSE/OpenMW would handle it, given that OpenMW handles shit like dynamic physics.
>>733573519Why would you want sex mods in Morrowind. The focus is on content, if you want Koikatsu with swords Skyrim is right there.
>>733573409I'm not entirely sure as I haven't tried it myself, but most likely yes. OpenMW only recently gained scripting capabilities that allow you to add such things, and TR is still waiting for them maybe to add compatibility with MWSE so that they don't have to rewrite the same scripts for different versions.>>733573519There are plenty of sex mods, they're all just from the old days before Oblivion because people who do this kind of thing almost always only mod the latest game.
>>733523005OpenMW has mods that MWSE will naver have and vice versa. Also, OpenMW is way more stable and looks way better, but MWSE has access to more advanced scripting that can introduce new functions. But y'know, MWSE is still vanilla Morrowind that barely coprehends modern systems.
>>733573570Because I want to fuck Arvesa properly.
>>733573409It doesn't have the wabbajack effect, it's just a staff with 9000 enchant value. Arguably more useful.
>>733573648I'm yet to be convinced OpenMW is more stable, no matter how often anons say it. I'm using MWSE and I think it's crashed maybe twice in a year of playing it?
>>733573815Easily more useful, but that's not what you want the wabbajack for.
>>733574343People mainly mean FPS. For me, OpenMW has about 10-15fps more in large cities like Narsis. And I still don't think it's worth it.
>>733574343Depends on how many mods you I using. I used to run about 700+ mods on my MWSE installation and it could barely comprehend it without crashing.On the other had, the same 700+ modpack on OpenMW runs like a dream.
>>733574438Ah, makes sense. I have a decent enough computer and paces like Narsis can dip in the frame rate department at times.
>2010s>Used to have a silly number of mods that expanded all the cities, added a ton of new NPCs to the island, expanded dungeons, added more dialogue to the NPCs, better bodies, better heads, new buildings and houses, better weapons and armour and so on>These days>Tamriel Rebuilt and a few quest mods. Maybe something fun on the side like ultimate fishing.The only downside is NPCs looking bad again, but better bodies/heads clashes something awful with TR. You get characters looking like they're invading from future generation games hanging around in towns next to the standard Morrowind inhabitants.
>>733502239>ugly male and pretty femaleslike Slavs?
>>733574492never got how people could have 700 mods on one game
>>733575104It's great. When it runs properly.
>>733575069yeah
>>733574883Looks like people grew up and acquired taste. 2010s modding was fucking embarrassing.
>>733576954Yes the modern TES games are popular.
>>733576954More like one big quality mod makes shoving 100s of smaller ones in obsolete.
>>733539035I agree with his points
>>733573329absolute kino
>>733578019>>733539035yea this seems reasonable
>>733544976To think this was the first Minotaur. And the only beastfolk emperor of Cyrodiil.
Ok so in Project Tamriel lore, the Ostern "Bretons" are really just civilized Reachmen, correct?
>>733578975Apparently not. They're Bretons that are kinda culturally similar to the Reachmen and have them as vassals.
>>733578975abominable design combining early modern period landsknecht and late antiquity steppe nomadWorse yet I can probably point to the exact two images that inspired this design.
>>733579734It's probably supposed to resemble early medieval northern european face mask armor more than anything
>>733579798Its the moustachio'd kipchak mask combined with the sutton hoo anglo saxon helmet
they look like Cumans to me
>>733580041lol more CUMans
>>733539035It's amazing to think that even with all the flaws and the fanfiction, a grouo of modders can make a better TES than Bethesda.I really hope they didn't take this essay equivalent of a toddler's tantrum seriously.
>>733580041yeah, PT are obsessed with masked helmets for some reason
>>733580227well ordinator design is pretty memorableI would prefer High Rock to have older medieval armor designs (I guess they don't want to be another Warhammer Bretonia)
>>733580347Yeah, but I feel like most of Breton society isn't based around a cult of saints and living gods. So they wouldn't be as obsessed with the visages of those either. I know they're afraid of making the region they're working on bland like Cyrodiil in Oblivion.
>>733580227>for some reasonIt's simply a sensible decision given the lack of facial animation. Vanilla Morrowind does the same with Dagoth Ur and many other designs. Literally working around the game's limitations. New Vegas actually did something similar and gave masks to many important characters.
>>733580227masked helmets are kino
>>733580347>well ordinator design is pretty memorablefor sure, but that is a very particular purposeful design that comports to a specific aspect of dunmer culture. i think breton armor design should be much more creative and diverse to better encapsulate a true, living, breathing culture rather than just some pastiche of generic western european late medieval design
>>733580550Helmet masks are not something unique to Dunmer.
>>733580347Those are exotic easterners who are about as close to Reachmen as they are to Bretons. Pic rel is the art for the "mainstream" Bretons who were in Daggerfall and all.It doesn't make much sense for the cosmopolitan Bretons to universally still be stuck in the surcoat and mail era in a setting where plate already exists i guess (and without a lore justification like the one Bretonnia has)
Is it true that PT High Rock will be somewhat fucked up by the Dragonbreaks and be some Stalkeruesque hellhole
I would also like to note that these concept artworks are not the final designs and there will be changes when they are converted from 2D to 3D.
>>733580647never said they were, nor did i say that other cultures in tamriel cant have masked helmets. thats obviusly fine, but to rely on masks as a crutch for more creative armor design is a little bit boring, in my opinion. if there is supposed to be any exoticism, it needs to be purposeful and meaningful, like the ordinator mask which is an reverent idolatrous visage of nerevar
>>733580756more garbage design
>>733580920Oh go and jump onto to the traintracks already you fucking faggot.
>>733580756and another good example of muddied design>german salet>pantaloons and shoes resembling much later german doppelsoldnersI don't want to doom and gloom but I am not feeling it, unless of course the team goes an extra mile and gives each small kingdom their own flavor
>>733574883>NPCs looking badI find most TR faces are pretty faithful to the original game.
>>733580879>made helmet uglier>made pauldrons uglier>made cuirass uglierthe 3d modellers need to work harder.
>>733581071He evidently doesn't think that the original games faces are good, hence his former usage of better face/body mods. Shit taste, i know.
>>733493998>make a spell that resists magic 100% for 1 second>cast until you succeed>equip boots>no blind>???>profit
bretons should be more gaulish
>>733580912see now this is better, there virtually exists no caucasus/tatar design in the western zeigeist. Thats novel and interesting to iterate on.
>>733581031I don't understand why the mixes are supposed to be bad.
>>733581194nice programmer socks
>>733581215He's an armor autist, he wants it to be more analogous to reality. I don't entirely disagree with him some of the TR armor designs are overdesigned, but it is much better for a concept art to be overdesigned than underdesigned.
>>733581031I guess the logic behind it is that their Iliac Bay is an advanced almost Renaissance-like setting, with that Knight in particular bearing the symbol of Wayrest, which in PTR is supposed to be one of Tamriel's five only megalopolises. They probably went out of their way to draw from "later" things instead of more traditionally "medieval" stuff.
If you want to have an aneuyrism Armorautist you should take a look at the Empire in warhammer fantasy.Kinda hope you do, no offense.
>>733581204caucasian stuff would be awesome and i dont udnerstand why there isnt more shit like this. TR is a perfect oppertunity to do so. maybe for more cyrodiil or hammerfell stuff. honestly, the TR team can simply watch films like The Color of Pomegranates and Ashik Kerib for inspiration. Some incredible costuming in those films
>Playing a new character to do the main quest>Don't like dropping my old character even though he has fulfilled his roleAnyone else get this, or am I just a huge autist?
>>733581204>>733581418also more iranic stuff would be cool
>>733572471You can also kill yourself which I recommend in your case
hammerfell when?
>>733581398keep it up and I will send you to Pontus
>>733581287You're just wrong and have shit taste. A pastiche patchwork collage of unrelated concepts is BAD design completely irrespective of realism. Its one of the lowest forms of art Like RDR 2 or Tarantino movies that just combine a bunch of their favorite tropes derived from actual good creative works with no overarching moral or virtue
>>733581478I'll make one final save for the character in a fitting place.
>>733581603Calm down, faggot, it's not that serious lol
nibenese = scythian-esque. yay or nay?
>>733581625I do that too, but sometimes I like being them so much it's hard letting go.
>>733581603RDR2 and Tarantino movies mostly stick to one theme, though..
>>733581603Look at this faggot, laugh at him.
>>733580531I want to grab the mustache and yoink their head around.
>>733581603Maybe those low IQ threads where secondary retards guess which singular real life culture each Elder Scrolls race directly corresponds to would be more your speed
>>733581678They should be Romans mixed with Japanese. It's interesting enough.
>>733581603I don't think mixing and matching different concepts makes it inherently bad design. If anything, copying 1:1 with reality would be slightly worse
>>733581678not really, you need big ass flatlands for the horse fucker culture to form
>>733580756For me, it's the fucking scale mail
>>733581786>generic overdone culture fused with generic overdone culturenah. fuck oblivion. either make them iranic or some kinda weird fusion of turks and tibetans living near the valus mountains>>733581893i guess youre right as the nibenese lands arent super flat, are they?
>>733581418>>733581485my fucking niggaThere are some sneaky references in popular media like Dune is essentially the retelling of Imam Shamil's resistance to the russian empire chronicled in Sabres of Paradise
>>733581978The Nibenay is largely made up by dense jungles cut up by rivers, which Nibenese society revolves around. Not sure where you got this idea that it's a mountainous region from. PTR has the Nibenese be very vaguely roman and east asian, but the emphasis is more on how gaudy everything about them is. Bright colored tapestries everywhere, hundreds of different weirdo cults, etc.
>>733581603triggered em with this trvth nvke lel
>>733581978as I recall it described as lush jungle and some marshes with riverclosest I could imagine would be something like Chileans specifically the Mapuche another possibility would be Cossacks
>>733581556Hammerfell Crowns NEED to be based on the Benin Kingdom. would literally splooge from the kino overload. why cant fantasy video game creators make actual cool shit that matches even real life stuff?
>>733582297kino
>>733582386interestingly they have no relation to modern day Benin. they were a kingdom in southern Nigeria in the middle ages
>>733582297WE
>>733581781maybe you should stick to your fav animu and final fantasy belt clothing gacha
>>733561537>no trainingwhy, the games balanced around it and it's a great feature later games nixxed.
>>733582297> Why can't video game creators rip off real life?Not very creative if you ask me.
>>733582572they literally wuz, though.
>>733582739didnt say they have to, but MATCH the creativity of real life cultures rather than just generic late medieval western europe, rome and japan again the for 1368147682476th time like every fantasy video game does.
>>733582739shut up faggot
https://wiki.project-tamriel.com/wiki/Concept_Art_(High_Rock)
>>733582851me on the right
>>733582753Every last one of em.I don't think basing a major faction in Hammerfell on the biggest slave trader kingdom in Africa is such a good idea. They got powerful because they traded other tribes for gunpowder and horses.It would be funny if they did.
>>733583026we can substitute the commodity if slavery is too yucky for the modern audiences, horses are pretty valuable too
>>733583120Horses were valuable. That is why the Dahomey traded their fellow humans for them.The exchange rate was 100 to 1.If they do base a faction on them it must be the one that supports the empire.
>>733582297It's the 4th era, they aren't going to be dressing in THAT ancient style>looks at skyrim soldiers wearing hobo trashHmmm
>>733581978>generic overdone culture fused with generic overdone cultureSo instead they should be generic cultures fused with generic cultures? Wow, revolutionary!
>>733582851kek
>>733583608
>>733583608Breton Trash!>>733583725I look like this
>>733582297The Redguards (BOTH crowns and forebears), due to their cosmopolitan seagoing nature, canonically have largely abandoned yokudan traditions and instead speak the common tamrielic language, dress in an european-like manner, and their royalty straight up follows the 8 Divines religion. Kinda like TES V Nords except it was established all the way back in Redguard, a game that took place in a Crown city where everybody was dressed like a pirate and the architecture was vaguely middle eastern. The only cities that could look like that would be some really backwater ones all the way to the West whose people are somehow unaffected by the direction Redguard society took immediately after the Ra Gada invasions.That being said, the PTR people do seem to be taking some inspiration from West African societies like those, just don't expect anything even near the degree in that image.
>>733583503>It's the 4th era, they aren't going to be dressing in THAT ancient styleelder scrolls was never consistent in terms of technological development anyway. i dont see a reason why not. look at the dunmer, for instance.
>>733583026>I don't think basing a major faction in Hammerfell on the biggest slave trader kingdom in Africa is such a good ideawhy not? sounds cool to me
>>733583885I think it would be funny to hear all the White people extolling the virtues of diversity while having no idea they are glorifying the golden age of the African slave trade.I hope it happens too.
>>733583837well I think they won't make redguards look inferior to nords, development wise, not that that would be hard, mind you, but they'll likely be fully armored warriors with arabic influence.
>>733583824sure, but why couldn't there be a hypothetic sub-sub faction of redguards that still cling to yokudan traditionalism and more primitive technology? similar to how this happens in real life, often ending in failure, of course. im just spitballing and imagining cool things though. morrowind and all of its numerous factions was always about syncretism and multiple interpretations of the same thing
>>733584020>well I think they won't make redguards look inferior to nordswell, nobody said that ALL redguards need to be like this, just some can be less advanced than others. >>733584016ok? youre making up some weird boogeyman in your head. i dont think tamriel rebuilt consumers would mind. please dont make this a le woke vs le based thing for fucks sake. i just want cool shit.
>>733583885NTA, it does sound cool, but slavery has been outlawed in the empire for a while during the time of Morrowind. It's just Morrowind that got the exception.
Sload gf when
>>733584131i forget, but did the empire control all of hammerfell during the 3rd era? was slavery illegal in hammerfell?
>>733584273The 3rd Era is literally defined by the fact the Empire de jure controls the entire continent. And while in PTR lore Hammerfell is supposed to have special priviliges similarly to Morrowind (due to the events of TESA:Redguard), there's nothing to suggest slavery is such a privilege, or that the Redguards ever had slavery to begin with, at least not deeply ingrained slavery of the sort the Dunmer have. Overall, Morrowind is consistently talked about as the only place in the continent where you can still own sapient beings as property.
>>733584273I couldn't remember, so I checked the pocket guide, and yeah they were fully subjugated. The last, alongside Morrowind. It does not mention any form of slavery being allowed, so it's best to assume it's not, given that Morrowind being allowed slaves is specified. There is also this cool art of a redguard there.
>>733584545>>733584605well then, disregard the idea of literally basing their entire culture on the Benin Kingdom, rather to just make the visually similar with a unique culture cooked up by the TR devs. it doesn't even have to be just Benin. Could be a huge hybrid of massive african civilizations like the Ethiopians, Eritreans, Mali Empire, Great Zimbabwe, Nigerians etc.
>>733584115The woke crowd will eat up the diversity. It will just be funny how much they glaze slave traders due to their ignorance.I wonder if they play up the Israel/Palestine aspect of the Hammerfell/Orsinium situation as well.Keep those filthy orcs in their place by regular pogroms and forcing them to live in an apartheid State. Real conundrum for the woke crowd. Who do they side with? The darkies (Israel) or the Orcs ( Palestine).Their brains might break
>>733581978>nah. fuck oblivion.The Nibenay/Colovia divide was completely absent in Oblivion, chucklefuck.
>>733582851Is there any province in this project that is not undergoing a Moebius-Amano gypsyfication?If even normal ass high rock looks like this, by the time their are done Vvanderfell will be the most grounded place in tamriel. The irony.
>>733585025>The Nibenay/Colovia divide was completely absent in Oblivion, chucklefuckyes, that is quite literally what i was implying, dumbass.
>>733585001ok. i dont give a fuck about them and neither should you.
>>733585131The woke crowd does. A great deal.As long as they are informed on the real life parallels that is.
>>733583725>THIS GUY MASTURBATES!>still dresses him as a fine gentlemanmy sides
>>733584959Yeah I completely agree that Hammerfell has a lot of potential. The culture of Hammerfell that's been shown in the games is usually somewhat fringe, like Stros M'kai just being the site of a pirate-themed swords n sorcery adventure. I don't know much about African cultures though, so it would pretty much all be fantasy to me kek. More Kirkbride redguard art.
>>733491557Lorewise speaking, isn't he very stinky?
>>733585001Project Tamriel's Orsinium is a large, ascendant kingdom whose newly expanded territory stretches all the way down to Hammerfell and who have an alliance with the Kingdom of Wayrest, one of the most powerful in High Rock and the whole continent, while also providing the Legion with soldiers and officers. If anything they'll play up how much the Bretons and Redguards are seething impotently while Orsinium enjoys its golden age.
Tranny modAll your developers yet nothing you put out can even compare to good mods.MelchiorDahrk, Greatness7, Merlord, NullCascade, RandomPal all laugh at you in the private discord.
>>733585351So it just ignores established lore?That is one way to avoid controversy.
>>733585274yeah man african shit is awesome. reason i brought up Kingdom of Benin is because its one of the few african kingdoms we know some shit about, plus they had crazy drip.
>>733585408>private discordembarrassing, school girl gossip tier behavior
>>733585496Well selling their fellow humans was quite profitable. They could afford it.
>>733585412Both Orsinium being one of the four Iliac Bay kingdoms to emerge victorious following the Warp in the West and its alliance with Wayrest are canon established lore from Oblivion's Pocket Guide to the Empire 3rd Edition. Not that an autistic Skyrimfag like you would know, of course.
>>733585596yes. we are in agreement. is there a reason you keep saying this to me?
Is it even possible for a dunmer to be an outsider to vvardenfell?
>>733585820sure, why not? you can be a dunmer born and raised in a different land than morrowind/vvardenfell.
>>733585820yeah the game makes it pretty clear that even a dunmer nerevarine is considered an outlander
>>733585739> Why are you making it abundantly clear I am glorifying the slave trade.I think it is funny when you pretend to not care by responding to every last one of my posts.
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>>733585820Have you seen the dunmer in Cyrodiil? This is like a liberal arts graduate from San Francisco visiting his distant cousins in rural Alabama.
>>733585995i dont know how it seems like i am glorifying the slave trade by wanting the aesthetics and culture of a real life culture to influence a fictional culture. i find the Benin Kingdom interesting, which does not mean that I think their culture and history is superior to others. it would be like if i said that you glorify slavery by enjoying the telvanni or something. are you one of those that think you need to agree with a character in order for you to like how they are written?
Anyone aware of Morrowind modders who take commissions for mods?
>>733585703Which pocket guide said Orcs were little more than beasts who did not even have a spoken language?In a game full of unreliable narrators you chose the source you chose the most unreliable? Bold choice Cotton.
>>733586129> How am I glorfying the slavers by basing a faction aesthetics on the Dahomey aesthetic that only exists because slavery?Not sure if merely pretending.
>>733586336You're in a thread discussing a mod for Morrowind, a game where the main and biggest Empire is based on the Roman Empire.
>>733586336bro, i just want cool shit in TR. its not that deep. how are you this stuck on this? are you some kind of hysterical kekistani stuck in 2016?
>>733586194>Which pocket guide said Orcs were little more than beasts who did not even have a spoken languageLiterally none. Even the first Pocket Guide in all its propagandistic nature that adopts an anti-Orc stance, still describes the Orcs as rational beings capable of building a city, having complex geopolitical goals and strategies, and petitioning the Empire for recognition, which it even states they did have under the Remans. And the PGE3 is a whole different beast from Redguard's PGE1, being a much more honest rundown on what's happening on each province rather than a wartime propaganda piece.You should really stick to your beloved Skyrim Civil War threads if they still make them, you're just not cut for any other TES lore.
>>733586429The Roman Empire was formed by a Nord that could yell at walls and make them fall down?I missed that day.
>>733586467>how are you this stuck on this?Anon, he's not. He's just a troll. He's just trying to get a rise out of you. Though thankfully you're still posting cool pics along the way. More Kikrbride niggas
>the village of Seyda neenindeed?>bordering the city of balmorai'm listening>on the island of vvardenfellvery interesting>on the continent of Tamrieloh my we're peaking>in a world named Nirnugh what a dumb fucking name
>>733586467If you want to glorify the African slave trade that is on you.It may not be universally loved.
>>733585995>>733586336Mongols raped and pillaged their way through most of asia and parts of europe and people still think they're cool. Depicting a culture is not the same as endorsing it.
>>733586471What passage from the first are you refering to?
>>733586538>He's just a trollAn autist actually
>>733586646People think of mongols as filthy horse fuckers.
>>733586534I know it must be hard to distinguish real life and fiction for you, but you must understand that people glorify nations that practiced slavery all the time.
>>733585820Yeah, have you tried playing the game?
>>733586538I just gave him the benefit of the doubt as Morrowind/TR threads tend to not be filled with culture warrior bullshit as thats more of an issue everywhere else on /v/. People tend to be roughly 20% less retarded than average in these threads, but oh well.
>>733586661>Orsinium did possess considerable strength during the First Era, when Orcish refugees fleeing the Ra Gada invasion of Hammerfell joined the beastman army already gathering there. This army was determined to take control of the Bjoulsae River and force the kingdom of Wayrest to pay Orsinium regularly for its use. >Orsinium briefly became an Imperial territory under the Akaviri Potentate, though this ended with the death of Savirien-Chorak in CE431 [sic]. The Orcs have recently petitioned the New Emperor to grant them a similar status, but Tiber Septim is famous for his hatred of their kind, and has yet to bestow the beastfolk good answer.
>>733586727you are living under a rock if you dont think that most people think mongols are fucking badass. the surge in people being into throat singing is a pretty clear sign of thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WlI24rv__g
>>733586692Why are you bringing out the sainted infographic for a nonMorrowind argument?Your boogeyman's reach is growing.
>>733586832mongolian throat singing is a college psy op lmao nobody cares
>>733586752The woke crowd is working overtime to fix that.If you want to risk pissing them off go ahead.
When you think about it, most cultures have endorsed slavery, and any culture with horses have had their fair share of horsefuckers. Really makes you think.
>>733586931I don't think that "woke crowd" will care if you utilize aesthetics of a real african nation.
>>733586336anon... you might want to sit down for this...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome
>>733586692oh cool, another literal who boogeyman i get to be accused of being any time i make any criticism of a 25 year old game
>>733586832Modern day Mongolia is still in the stone age.Nobody has a high opinion of Mongolian "culture"
>>733585408If they are based then they would follow the cathedral concept mentality, discord cliques are literally the most definite form of trannyism
>>733585408Funny how all communities supposedly have some "point and laugh" private discord according to you shitposters! It's almost as if you're full of shit!
>>733587047No because the guy has an extremely recognizable writing style and a handful of very specific fixations normal people don't tend to have
>>733587027True they are largely ignorant of history.If they find out they chose the biggest slave trading kingdom in Africa to base a factions look on you are taking a risk.
>>733586843>Sainted infographic>Boogeyman reachYou could try and mix it up a bit, you use the same words every time you're called out and it's not helping your cause.
>>733586692It doesn't matter either way, replying to fags like that does nothing. >>733586754You're right that these threads do usually have good discussion. That's why it's best to only reply to the good discussion and ignore bait replies like that. No one here who wants to discuss Morrowind is going to levy accusations of racism or whatever he was trying to do. Just know that if you are discussing something and you just keep getting inflammatory, usually single-minded replies like that, just ignore them. Cause it's usually just a troll, and if not, it's something even worse kek. Replying will just spread the argument to other well-meaning anons.
>>733587175indeed, all those pieces of media with japanese aesthetics sure need to be real careful about using the aesthetics of a culture that has practiced slavery. what were they thinking? taking such a risk?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Japan
>>733587039So basing a failing and incompetent faction's aesthetics on a slaver empire is ,in your mind, glorifying it?I don't think you know what the word means
>>733587135> It is him, I swear. I recognize his puncuation.MedsNow
ANYWAY instead of talking with the charlie kirk schizo, what are your hopes and dreams regarding the Indoril? what about House Dres?
>>733587214> You get called out for saying the same thing when I post the same infographic yet again> same infographic yet again> same infographic yet again> same infographic yet againDid you ever consider not posting the infographic everytime you feel you are losing an argument?
>>733587379The guy has repeatedly been proven to have a psychotic obsession with "discrediting" this one old RPG he doesn't like, but no, it's all schizoid legitimate posters noticing his bullshit, right?
>>733578975Reachmen are just feral Bretons anyway, their racial distinction from other Bretons is just taking a modicum more Altmer dick. It's not like the Bretons don't also worship Daedra (on the downlow via witch cults) or bitch about the Nords (while happily interbeeding with them anyway) too.
>>733587532Have you even considered mixing up your posting style, schizo?How's being a faggot in Romania anyway? I can't imagine it's much fun.
>>733575104Modpacks, they're pretested and shit
Where is he?
>>733587492Tur Julan-style fortress full of Daedra slaves
>>733587618Accidentally getting mantled by Sotha Sil apparently
>>733587292> The Japanese economy was solely dependant on slavery just like the Dahomey.Well at least you tried.
>>733587492>what about House Dres?I heard that TR wants to make it a matriarchy, and that sounds unimaginably gay.
>>733587618So if Pyrite is natural order what is Jyggalag?
>>733585820Anon, the King of Morrowind is literally an Imperialized Dunmer
>>733587614PTR Reachmen don't worship Daedra tho, they worship the Altmer pantheon
>>733587532Kek, whatever you say, Rolstonfag.
>>733587749Cold, mathematical order. Logic. Big fucking crystals. Remember he has a library of everything that'll ever happen just from mathematical deduction. Probably some engineering and technology bits there, given the original concept art was going to have his soldiers be clockwork art noveau robots.
>>733587548> He discredits this one game.> Has he discredited said game in this thread?> Well no.> Then how do you know it is him?> *Posts infographic* Fuck you boogeymanMedsTake them
>>733587741IIRC it's not really a matriarchy as much as it's them having a revered class of holy women/witches similar to ashlander wise women, because in the base game Vivec describes the Dres as keeping old pre-tribunal Dunmer traditions alive.
>>733587749I think Jyg was supposed to be absolute order. He needs everything to be in his version of order and nothing else at least that’s what I see
>>733587616I don't know the backstory on the Romainian? Is Rollinsfag and the Romainian the same poster in your head or are they different?
>>733587887Because, setting aside your distinct writing style and vocabulary, you have other recognizable obsessions, like your Orc/Palestine association you seem to be really proud of in the silliest way possible lmao
>>733587797Then that makes them the same as literally everyone but the Dunmer then, since the core of every other pantheon is more or less the same core as the Altmer's with some of the extras trimmed off, like Xarxes.
>>733587852Am l the Rolstonfag or the Romainian?I need a program to keep up with your boogeymen.
>>733539035This guy literally sounds like the average /v/irgin but without the usage of slurs.
I get reachmen are supposed to be gaul and Druid allegories but I think they should have taken some Haida and Tlingit inspiration
>>733587882>>733587925>is called Jiggy>needs everything to fit togetherBravissimo
>>733587905>tribunal cleans house whenever someone dares to stray even a little bit from the official doctrine>but an entire great house practicing pagan bullshit is okay
>>733588070>literally everyone but the Dunmer then, The Khajiit also worship the Daedra, and unlike the Dunmer, they don't even draw any distinction between them and the Aedra And you have to keep in mind, Tamriel didn't always look the way it does in the 3rd era. The Empire was once ruled by a theocracy that virulently hated the Altmer pantheon and the Nords are likewise not big fans of elves. That, alongside the Reachmen's tribal nature does set them apart from their neighbors.
>>733532717the [REDACTED] Flu never happened shut up
>>733588169Just like crystal lattices.
>>733588054> Besides your fixation on a game you haven't mentioned you bring up another thing I don't like on a totally unrelated subject. > You are clearly the same person.I see the issue now. The meds that would fix you would kill a horse if taken in the dosage needed.Honestly you need to start a wiki on your boogeymen. It is hard to keep up.
>>733588152i agree. a bit of North American indigenous influence would be really cool and interesting. would really make them stand out as much more distinct.
>>733581556Real African aesthetics are very pretty. Hammerfell should make use of them, my worst fear is that they turn it into Wakanda instead of making it feel like an actual place.
>>733588176The Dres still recognize the Tribunal in spite of their old-style ancestor and daedra worship. House Telvanni on the other hand is explicitly described as blasphemous & heretical and constantly defying the Temple. The Tribunal are probably fine with a bit of heresy if it doesn't actually threaten their power (or if the ones doing heresy grow all your crops in the Dres' case or are extremely powerful wizards in the Telvanni's case)
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>>733588357It's REALLY funny how hard you seethe at being recognized while being physically incapable of changing the things that get you recognized, so you lash out in the most pointless way possible lmaoAnyways, thread's over and i'd not see your posts anymore, see ya next time, when somebody call you out again and you bring up them boogymans in the exact same way again
>>733539035He's 100% right
>>733588302Everyone worships the Daedra in some form. Even the Empire has its Acceptable Blasphemies. The Nords included, where some Daedra are among their Testing Gods who are appeased rather than praised (still a form of worship.) I wasn't really implying Daedra worship is a unique Dunmer thing, but that the rejection of the Aedra is. The sole Aedra that the Dunmer praise and respect (though they don't actively worship him) is Lorkhan, with the Altmer hostility towards him being considered one of their sins by the Dunmer.>The Reachmen's tribal natureI did call them feral Bretons. The point I was making is just that Reachman/Breton is more of a cultural divide than a racial one. So if they Ostern are just 'civilized Reachmen' then that makes them just Bretons.
>>733588504Sardinian Carnivals are also quite untapped as a source for inspo. would fit the reachmen quite well, i reckon.
>>733588635> Haha I win because I am going to keep posting the sainted infographic when I start losing arguments.You will be posting it many many more times.
Me? I think Orcs should be like Sami, but instead of reindeer herds they're living off of hairy bugs! Oh, and they should obviously have a bit of Polynesian in them, and maybe they should practice hecking sky burials! Oh, and they should have a deep concept of the pre-dawn era, like the Aboriginal dream time! And wouldn't it be cool if they practiced Matriarchal polygamy like the Mosou! Awesomesauce! Hecking original and super cool!
>>733585820There's literally dialogue in the game that says outlander Dunmer are hated the most out of anybody. Think of the way Europeans can clock an American tourist immediately just by sight alone, it's more than race. It's the way outsiders move, how they talk, how they conduct themselves, the way they dress, the way they look around at everything like it's new to them.
>>733588070>>733588302The Argonians also worship neither the Aedra nor Daedra
>>733588854why do you have so much resentment?
>>733588854this anon fucks reindeers
>>733588854Welcome to the Tamriel Rebuilt team, when can you start?
>>733543438cool. i made a crowley drawing last halloween, i wasnt aware of him before
>>733588152looks cool, although there are plento of other cultures who could have that. maromer having the aesthetic made from a combination of natural materials and looted equipment, maybe with fewer herd and more serpent motifs. or maybe extra-trad valenwood tribes (obviously with less wood and more bone) raiding farms for food and equipment and to keep farmers from deforesting new land.
>>733588901In post-Morrowind lore that's confirmed yeah, but I don't know anything about TR/PT lore for Argonian religion so I didn't say anything about then,
>>733588912If he wasn't miserable people wouldn't talk to him.
>733588854what causes seethe to this extent? do some people just lose all sense of whimsy at a certain age without much real-life interaction?
>>733588998TR/PT also only has them only truly worship the Hist while maybe revering some local minor spirits and explicitly rejecting the Aedra as "foreign star gods"
>>733588349>>733587882I wouldn't mind seeing these funny robots resurrected as TR Data creatures, like how concept art hungers became the Devourers.
>>733555676>>733555106something like son of hircine whatnot
>>733588854sounds cool, actually.
Now that the thread is dying, post you're toon. I'll try to draw one or two of them and post it the next thread I catch. Pic rel is a sketch I did of the character for my next playthrough. Nibenese scholar trying to learn tonal manipulation through moosic.
>>733588783I mean everyone still knows it's you lol
>>733589121Sure, but there's also the question of where they'd put them, is TR even going to do Jigglebags?
>>733588959Oh yeah I’m thinking they fit Maomer way better now that you mention it. Maybe even Hawaii would work as well
>>733589354Sure, here's my current guy
>>733589354My Nord Warrior enjoying his retirement in his house in Raven Rock, currently wearing the robes of the late King Helseth.
>>733589537The Maormer should be polynesian inspired more than anything else, it's in the name. Maori.
>>733589354I'm waiting for Tamriel Data to get an update so I can play my next character, who'll be a Naga.Because of his race, stature, and silence, he intimidates most people who think he's a serious killer or hardened thug. In actuality, he's just cripplingly autistic, says yes to most things silently, and has 0 understanding of social cues and hates violence (and will silence violence/anger by any means if he needs to.)
>>733589736>currently wearing the robes of the late King Helseth.H-how did get those, anon?
>>733589862not everything has to be a copy of a real world culture
>>733590059I never said copy I said inspired, and do you have any idea how large "polynesia" is?
>>733590059thats why they used the word "inspired" rather than "copy" anon
>>733589862Elder scrolls tends to combine a lot of cultures together so you easily use both cultures as a reference. Bretons are Celtic Frenchies with a hint of Druid in them
>>733589862>>733590059>>733590124>>733590126>>733590218The reason ESO is dogshit is partly because they made all of the races just "X but in Elder Scrolls" and it's fucking boring as hell. What makes the Dunmer so interesting in Morrowind is that there's no one single culture you can tie them to because they take influence from so much.
>>733590218>inspired more than anything elseMeaning multiple cultures should be used as inspiration but first and foremost you should see them and think "polynesian", the same way you can look at Nords and think "Viking" even though they're more complex than that.
>>733590282You guys lack reading comprehension fr fr nocap ong
>>733589950He decided to preserve this magnificent piece o tailoring art, along with the wonderfully crafted amulet, after encountering a gruesome scene, the King of Morrowind and his entire Royal Guard lying dead in the throne room.Those poor souls must have encountered a maniac carrying an axe, judging by their wounds.May Shor have mercy on their souls.
>>733590218>Celtic Frenchies Like the... real world Bretons? Wow...
>>733590385That's what they are now but they used to be Anglo-saxons in Daggerfall era lore. Breton is a pretty unfortunate name though, it's like if the Redguards were called Nigerians or something lmao.
>>733590314Ehh Maomer imo can be just a Raider type like the Barbary or Wakko. Polynesian and Tlingit could be mixed in as well with a similar style since they raided more than farmed plus were excellent naval forces
>>733590385Sorta. They went in two directions for a French influence one went full medieval Hundred Years’ War France and the other went pre Roman and Druid
>>733590491I really like Tlingit aesthetics and I'd want to see aspects of their culture reflected in the world somewhere too, but idk where they'd fit in. They seem like Merethic/1st era Nedes. I personally don't think they fit the Maormer as much as I like them.
>>733590643Personally I’d make their armor more Tlingit like with a hint of Polynesian art with Aedra or Daedra carvings in their boats and gear
>>733590739I'll have to sketch some concept art and post them next thread.
>>733588912>>733588916>>733589040Mixing "obscure" IRL cultures and aesthetics does not make an interesting in-game race. The real legwork is done by the in-game world building. The idea that "mainstream" cultures are automatically inferior to the "obscure" ones is tiresome.
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Can we have another thread like this. I like talking about lore
>>733591085That's half the fun of ES. The lore is so rich the world feels genuinely real, it's something other fantasy universes just don't have.
>>733589354ethnic ashlander privately enslaved by telvanni master throughout most of his life and has been freed through the recognition of his willpower, intellect and discipline. now travels as a nomad throughout southern morrowind and has befriended the Shinathi. he is secretly a firm Temple believer.
>>733591298woops sorry for shitty lighting heres a better one
>>733581418>>733581485Probably because Bretons are mostly French and British and not steppe people. The closest we have to a steppe is in Elsweyr.
>>733591375Erm have you not heard about the river tribe horse semen???
>>733591375the caucasus is not a steppe. it is grasslands and mountains. noorth of the caucasus you have steppes though, but the azerbaijani cultures depicted in those pictures are not steppe people.
>>733591485Azerbaijan isn't even in Europe, unlike parts of the western steppe, so they apply even less to the cultural inspiration for Bretons.
