>nearly 70 hours into mewgenics>still on act 1
>>733507932you're lying or spent 59 hours afk
I'm nearing the end of act III and still don't have any all 7's cats. Breeding is too hard to keep track of.
>>733508069I spent the entire time doing dr. beanie quests
Reminder to do your quad collarless run
>>733508465is that a real thing?
>>733508117same but all my cats have great mutationswin some you lose some
ice age feels like the hardest area in act 3, every other area besides the lab is easier than it seems.
>>733508550The bosses are massively simplified with Soul Link.
>set out to do a neverstones run to pump charisma on a breeding cat>necro rolls numbing leechesoh shit. I've been waiting to run this build for agesto clarify before I do something retarded and throw this, does "damage you deal to allies is reduced to 0" apply to leech?
I have >GOT TO BE TUFF TUFF GOT TO BE TUFFstuck on the brain.
>>733508521There are 3 unlocks for each final act boss for quad collarless
>>733508742dropped pic
>>733507932I was like that too. I think I was at 70 hours when I finally got to the desert. I wanted to unlock a bunch of the class shit before moving on.
>>733508796Let me guess, there's a solo collarless unlock too?
>>733507932Isn't this character just Mouser from SMB2 but drawn with Ed's style?
This is very silly
>>733508917punchbots are ridiculous if you have a brain
>>733508742>leech effect is tied to the attack, not innate to necroWAIT SHIT FUCK
>>733508895Not like Nintendo uses Mouser much at all
>>733508895NINTENDO SUESUE STEAKMUND SUEEEEE!!!
>>733508891There's no solo related unlocks, no.
>two perfect parents with full 7s>one has mini me passive>other has weapon master>EVERY SINGLE one of their 20 kids inherited weapon masterREEEEEE. I had a dynasty of mini me cats before I reached full 7s, and these fuckers do not want to continue it.
I don't like how the party names are all too closely related to the classes I'm bringing. I'm sick of bullshit like "Anointed" or "Holy" because I always bring a cleric.
It should be basic fucking game design knowledge that permastunning your players is not fun. What the fuck is wrong with this retarded fat fuck?
One of my cats is making Yoshi noises
>>733509301>ClericEeeeehhh, Easy Modo?
>all cats suddenly get breed with aggressionI cleansed all aggressive cats from the gene pool and it still happenedI have a temporary fighting room, maybe that has something to do with it because there is fighting in the house? Or just bad luck
>>733507932Moegenics...
My tank has depression.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gd_ohoPzYc
>"Lets try out one of these forbidden skills for once, who knows they might be good">Butcher uses forbidden fart and gets depression>Now every cat starts every combat -8 hp because they have -2 all stats down standing next to the butcherSo they are just noob trap skills then? Very funny
>>733509531just had to slog through a run where a bad run gave my necromancer depression and had him nerf himself heavily and all my teammates at battle start. effectively gave -2 constitution to whoever spawned next to him and made them act on their first turn later. didn't help that king bunga also gave them all a concussion
>>733509636simply dont get depression
>>733509636Maybe you get less shitty defects from the Forbidden stuff if you have high luck
>>733509636Retard.It only debuffs them at the start. Then you can send your Butcher Solo to the front and he will make every enemy giga depressed and get easy kills.
>>733509636It's a random disorder every time you use it. Sometimes it's not so bad, sometimes it can even be good. Also after you max out at 2 and use it again it gets rid of your first one and rolls a new one.
>>733509636>So they are just noob trap skills then?Worse, they're always gonna be used when a cat is charmed or possessed by Dybbuk.
>>733509636The noob trap is thinking they are bad
>>733509684>Also after you max out at 2 and use it again it gets rid of your first one and rolls a new oneOh shit! We are so back
>Cat gains blood frenzy>Has the poop mask that makes it spawn a fly at the end of it's turn>Takes 8 turns in a row downing half my teamI think I just need to get him as far away from the team as possible before killing anything.
>>733509429Cleric isn't even that good and become useless entirely late game (they sit around and do nothing)
>>733509636Disorders are powerful passives with a downside.Cancer is one of the best passives to get to push your cat evolution forward.
Waiting for the 7 all base stats mod so I can skip the shitty breeding part altogether.
>>733509691My favorite was cat with blood frenzy and spaw box skill. Some times when turns piled up. They would just build box fort and sit inside doing nothing. AI can't register those boxes as something you can break for some reason.
>>733509775they said it would be weeks to ensure that everyone is chewing their steak
>>733509760The item is better
>>733509794There are already mods out.
>>733509723frankly you should probably keep depression on butcher unless all of your cats are staying bunched up throughout the fight
>>733509829on the nexus maybe, but I only bother with the workshop
>>733509803what's the max number of mutations? I thought you could only have one arm mutation
>>733508117the cat management in base is awful.
>>733509751Ye. Don't kill anything if your cats are near. My last blood frenzy was monk. I gave it kamehameha+ took of all the equipment. With zero mana it could do 20 damage in line of sight. Any non boss enemies would die to it in one turn. If I managed to send it enemy corner. It would clear it out in 1 turn. It also took care of hells boss in one cycle once flies spawned. It had 6 turns when it started to focus on boss. At minimum 30 damage per turn.
So is there any rhyme or reason to event checks?Feels like most times I interact with a green check it still just fucks me over, and reds are just 100% fuckovers unless its the Ito holeLuck related?
>>733509873fifteen that cat have been mutated 3 times each fight all the way until the king
>>733507932TASTY LEGS AND CRISPY THIGHS
>>733509882Out fucking skilled
>>733509963ON MY MIND
>>733509882lmao
>>733509751Well it worked.
>>733509921Luck you get from end of battles is related to it somehow. There feels to some system where game just fucks you over if you do too well. I dont rember my last run where I dont get something horible in first few events. Last desert I got ghost event and depression in my first 2 events.
How do you deal with sharkfaggots if you have melees? They hit one and then they start attacking 224132 times.
>>733509882That's hilarious but this challenge terrifies me with the amount of times something gets a shot in when all my cats are lined up at the start
>>733509754cleanse is the best ability in the game, sadly
>Finally breed a all 7s Kitten>Gay with OCD
>>733510052you have to have one of your melees tank everything
>>733510074Still fucks ? And strays you get can inherit from gay sex. When every gay cats fuck. Next day stray will have chanse to inherit heir stats and skills
>>733509754cleric has a bunch of good buffs and utility damage cleric becomes really bad really fast
shit I just found the perfect magegood thing I still have that item that just straight up recharges your entire mana bar if you fall asleep
>>733510128Thou Shalt Not Kill is giga OP
I forgot how it felt not being able to wiki every single aspect of The Binding of Isaac. Why am I forced to figure stuff out for myself?
>>733510178the exploration is the fun part anonhave some whimsy!
So ice mages should be slower than the rest of the party so they can cuck bosses of what is (often) their most important turn?
>>733510074do you not have a hermaphrodite cat?also make sure you pair it with a cat that doesnt have lovers if they fall in love that will be a fertility boost
>male cat has stuff I want to pass on>look for three female cats to send on an adventure together so they'll bond>all the females are already in love ALL FOIDS ARE WHORES
>>733507932Eh, I racked up nearly 30 hours in Act 1 before attempting (and clearing) Boneyard. I have a massive head start on breeding, but I doubt it was worth the time investment kek.And I'm still not done. I need to start on side quests and getting the Boneyard (+ Necromancer) unlocks.
>>733510128Ability that dose 0-25 damage depending on enemy health is really good. Your cleric usually has lot of mana. In normal battle it's good at finishing off enemies and against bosses it can do massive numbers when boss health is under 50%. Espesily when you get it + 0-50 damage. I also had good damage cleric. One with prayer and/or holy light with holy weapon+. It will easily get to over 20 damage. Even rally is good utility damage ability. Main strength of cleric is it's massive mana pool. You can get damage numbers up quite easily
>>733510170>Take Thou Shalt Not Kill+ to the double Kaiji fight>Bring a ranger who shits out fleas and pooters and spiders>Both bosses are permastunned and kill themselvesGenuinely thought you had to kill them both so the Meteor one was at like 70 HP when Pyrophina died.
Are the Guillotina fights something that gets difficult quickly? Looking for a non-spolierish answer but I don't like leaving my base unless my food stocks are below half. It's some min max autism where I like having decent cats worth leveling up during an adventure rather than just going out whenever I get 4 cats who can complete a run.
>>733510348Now I have to try thou shall not kill+squire druid+ranger. Then shit out those little fuckers next to enemies every turn.
>>733510348just had one of these runs with pestilence replaces basic attack + attacks apply rot it really is a crazy passive
>>733510363House bosses get harder step by step.But you can send out one cat and let it die to house boss. Just pick up your worst cat and send it out to die. That gives you 10 days I think. That way you have no hurry to do anything. Play as you want.
>>733509751Even if you do that the AI will just beeline for your own team sometimesI did still clear that run like that but boy did the two that made it home get a lot of injuries.
I completed The End, now what do I need to do to progress?I failed the kaiju fight and the terminator cat is coming in 5 days.Do I have to do the terminator fight, then stall out until the Pyro/Zara rematch, then complete the Core/Moon main quest, THEN get to the final act 3 area?
>>733510363I didnt have any trouble with themsend a suicide cat to scout what the fight looks like so you can prep for it
>>733507932whew ok so it's not just me.I haven't even finished that first alley run. I've had two party wipes so far.
>>7335103290-50 damage is not alot late build (speically for a melee attack)Cleric clense ability is why you should keep him around to clean any unwanted debuff and doing light healing.Alot of late game boss/enemies one shot or insta down with the amount of damage they do anyways
>>733509969
>>733510537;_;
>>733510525It's 0-50 with 8 mana. Best I had was 4 times in single turn.
having a hard time with necromancer.sometimes I get super good skills but on average it seems meh.
>>733510612Not ideal for melee that require a weakened opponent to begin with As you progress alot of enemies/bosses are allergic to melee for whatever reason and have "If you are next to me insta kill" so unless your cat can kill it in a turn its not a good idea
>>733510628Necromancer is high rng cat. You need good rng to have good cat. But in turn it has some of the strongest abilities. Good leach Necromancer can solo anything. Soul link is incredibly strong. Eternal servitude Is probably strongest ability in game. You can resurrect bosses with that and make them fight for you
money is a non-mechanic once you leave act 1 sadly. i mean it in every section, the runs and the home section.in runs realistically you'll just be buying rare candy and MAYBE an item every few runs at most.at home you are showered with money through side quests and only money sink is buying furniture once every few runs. (Tracy's shop is beyond useless). and this is without me doing any intentional money runs even once. its a real shame, the game desperately needs good money investments. and an actual use for food beyond getting refilled to full after every single run.
>>733510725upgrade the furniture guy and he'll start offering stuff that costs more than your screenshot
>>733507932How do I get to act 2? I've finished the cave multiple times, but i can never get to the boneyard because Trampy is just fucking retarded or some other bullshit happens along the way
>>733510783beat the boneyard
>>733510678I have no proplem and I'm in act 3. I use it when bosses are at 50% hp. I can finish them of in that turn. I better stop using it becouse you think its bad
Guy who played Isaac for 500+ hours and maxed out all three save files complaining about grinding in Mewgenics
>>733510725you dont bring your banked money into runs so money gain is still helpful tracy starts selling good items either into act 3 or as you upgrade her. I get yellows all the time, both on runs and at homeupgrade your shops
>>733510725Wait until you see furniture costing 1k+ to buy anon
>>733510783Bring a tank, the trample boss can't do a rebound hit if you knock him back.
>>733510805Fuckin' a, I'm really trying but golly are they raping me
>>733510812act 3 is a long fucking ass act and my idea of an end game act3 melee is capable of dishing out an attack every mana spent (every time the druid sing he reload his attack)
whats the difference between charmed 1 and charm?is charm permanent?
>>733510721yeah I havent gotten shit for leech boosting or soul link over the last four or so adventures.its actually crazy.all I get is "lets you jump when you are dead" and other garbage.
>Lost for the first time to an invasion>Now autistically sorting my cats trying to figure out wtf is going on with the linesThis is so damn annoying it feels impossible to avoid inbreeding
Cleared the rift for the first time and I had no fucking idea what was happening the two stage boss fight with multiple songs was a great surprise
>>733510991yeah, breeding QoL is definitely an aspect that requires some improvement.
>>733510923Yeah? I'm playing the same game. No need to explain how things I have done work. But I will stop playing game wrong for you.
>>733511029I think it's by purpose. You are suposed to be crazy cat lady. That's why your rooms end up with stuff everywhere. There is cat poop everywhere. Cats running everywhere. It's suposed to be mess in meta perspective. But getting list of your cats as final reward from gay guy would be nice
>>733511037Cmon anon is it that hard to admit an attack relying on your cleric being near an injured enemy to be effective is severely situational and frankly not worth using?
>>733509754Cleanse trivializes 90% of downsides of any mechanic, item or ability. It's hilarious that they gave him a full area cleanse for 3 mana while most other classes need to spend 5 mana to get rid of one single debuff at a time.
>act 3 route selection is literally just flintstones vs jetsonskino
>>733511121If he's on act 3 and from the bottom of his soul thinks intentionally building cleric as damage is worth it compared to other melee classes then he can't be helped. It's just objectively wrong. Cleric has the lowest damage output in the game.
>>733510976Same as mine necromancer expirience. It feels like tinker. You can have outright negative passives or abilities. But either soul link. Eternal servitude or Leech Swarm Is enough to make amazing cat. One ability is all you need
>>733511127thing is you could just bred down cleanse to other classes anon
>>733511121its a fine ability you dork>just an ability isnt at the same power level as an optimized high rollobviously. pretty sure you could get the cleric nuke to 200+ damage per use as well given the right set up
all routes should have at least 1 furniture you can get, feels shitty to just choose 1 of 2 paths because 1 has furniture.
>>733511121>>733511215I will stop using open wound becouse of you. I allready said that. You cant have someone playing the game wrong.
>>733511215The amount of enemies that one shot you for being adjacent to them is cancerous desuTheres like 3 enemies that bounce your projectile and appears absurdly rarely in act 2-3but the amount of 2x2 fucker that 1 tap you for sitting next to them is honestly unfair
I just got the flesh cube. Do you need it equipped for the whole run, or can you just bring it with you and only equip it in the spider boss fight? I don't think I have the ability to do a deathless run.
>>733507932ok I haven't been keeping up with this game at all but if you got more sexy rat girls to post then I might be intrigued
I got a cat with perfect stats but every cat in my house with decent stats to try and spread the genes is related to it
>>733511234And how are you passing cleanse down without cleric?
>>733511319you have the ability, you just choose not toits very easy to not die if you are not stupid, just right click the enemy to see the range and dont get hit
>>733511354Never said you dont have to use cleric everI said it fall off late game (which it does)People considering cleric "easy" mode have never enter act 3 and it shows
>>733511307Don't sit next to them. Time to kill is only thing that matter in this game. If you can't finish non boss fights in 2 turn. You have fucked up. Even 1 phase boss fights shouldn't go longer then 3 turns. Preferably 2 turn them.
>>733511410Oh so you admit that you need to use cleric.>People considering cleric "easy" mode have never enter act 3 and it showsYes I haven't entered act 3 yet. So what? I am playing this at a comfortable pace, got 25 hours in. But I also have a girlfriend, and a job, and I'm going to a party soon.
>>733511352That's why you are suposed to flush down most of your cats once you get family tree.
>>733511319>can't avoid getting downed>during a Caves runYou're going to have to get better, anon.
...You DID side with pyrophina, right anon?
>>733511439Who are you kiddin bub you're on 4chan
>>733511307You can't get one shot if you already know how much the enemy can move and what it's going to do.I still understand how people still fall for shit like this. All the enemies that can instakill have extremely straightforward mechanics you can play around.In fact. Just from the very start of the round, it's designed so that you can beat that encounter with no losses if you navigate correctly around the enemy movements with information that is readily available. If you can't do that and you are just moving randomly then you are just FUCKING STUPID and bad at tactics games.
>>733507932Why is the game getting shilled so hard. Buy an ad
>>733511551I tried to kill both with Soul Link but they cleanse it too fast, I had to give it up and kill Zaratana
>>733511617It's fun, cheap, and made with passion. Thanks for the bump.
Three cat runs definitely help mitigate the RNG bullshit for Tinkerer, at least got a few skills worth trying to pass down, this guy was fucking worthless at the start but was doing okay by the endTower defense spam actually isn't bad if you can get a couple of em out a turn, melee enemies without trample can't deal with the punchbots at all and it's a 10 tile knockbackThe upgraded rocket turrets hit with a splash like a bomb and have mostly intelligent targeting, wonder if you can scale up the splash size with the top hat
>>733511551shit was chaos. que sera serathat said yeah, shes my wife
>>733511587I think they don't prioritise speed. They are slow and turn order fucks them over. That way those instakill enemies can catch up to them and corner them. Otherwise it makes no sense.
>>733511587Sometimes they get push around by something else or another enemySometimes they push the 2x2 fucker directly into your line
>>733511551no
>>733511564Yes. And as shocking as it is, you know that not everyone here is a loser like you, right?
>>733511730And I'm a millionair sitting on a yacht with 2 super model.
>>733511587the instant kill enemies are gimmick fightsgimmick fights are good and I like the puzzle stages, but the instant kill enemies specifically are also stat checks for dps. if you play a slow grinder playstyle with no scaling then you'll get raped by themfor people with critical thinking skills that'd be a lesson to not do that but a lot of people will just seethe and blame the game
>>733511215Cleric has damage if you let RNG take the wheel. Breed bouncy arrows onto a kitten and then get that ranged heal passive.
>>733511801>2 super modelYou are indian. Probably the aquajeet that got the last thread autosaged.
>Any wind base event that randomly push everyone at the end of the round >Insta kill enemiesI hope you're fast enough to win round 1
tinkerers are perfectly balanced
>>733511885No. Cleric isjust for cleanse and ocasionally to heal. Full stop.
>>733511935I don't understand that third world language what does it say
Do we know if furniture boxes pay out differently based on the act you cleared for them or if they're all from the same pool? I'd rather do Act 2 just because it's more engaging but that probably gets tedious if every run is 40m+ and I can ship the Act 1 meowers to a forever home while I'm at it
>>733511957Cleric is also for spamming Bless+ onto your damage dealer.
>>733511984I've seen a "Rare Furniture Box" in the core, don't remember exactly what it gave me.
>>733511935I think your cats have dyslexia
>>733511984theres Rare furniture boxes from Hard paths with better bonuses.The furniture will say RARE on it's name
>>733511919God I hope he see how much he make people like you seethegive it a decade anon the indians will be your boss
>>733511935>when your cats come from Das Future
>>733511984you get rare crates from act 2 and act 3I haven't done enough act 3 runs to know if the quality of furniture you get is significantly better but it does seem that way
Man tinkerer is so shit if you don’t get the like 1 or 2 skills that actually do something. Why does he have like 6 variations of “move and take damage on a class with no health bonus”? Really hoping the clear unlocks aren’t shit so it’s more likely to not be worthless.
>>733512002Cleric for using whatever the fuck you roll that isn't shit. I've enjoyed Convert (and the + version) in recent runs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFilXD4oOAokitschy kitty is the best songfacts
>>733511096I just want a dropdown list of my cats Doesn't even need to give full details just tell me who's in what room
>>733511352Whore it out to strays to reset the chain>>733512172Rocket ride has been clutch a few times when I had high armor on the tinkererI think its kinda helpful to go defensive anyways since a good chunk of the weapons you can pull out of your ass are melee range even with tech
I'm in act 3 but the only house boss I killed was tina 1
>>733512008>>733512046>>733512134Oh damn, I haven't seen those before but I usually do normal act 2 if my team doesn't click. Guess I'll try get a few runs and see what drops, thanks bros.
>>733511439>gets called out on being clueless>hurr I'm a normgroid so its fine to spout retarded shit
top: breeding areamiddle: marriage areabottom: segregated gender areafor the sake of eugenics I wont allow my cats to fornicate
>>733512420>>733512057Aquafag spotted. I know the way you post. I'm already used to your mannerisms. Abandon thread.
>>733511551All the real niggas hate Pyrophina F Zara
>>733512475You know they can still be gay right
Lmao I guessed correctlyIt's a dipshit that haven't gotten to act 3 thinking cleric is "easy mode"
>>733512549Hello aquajeet. Where's the avatar?
>>733512539I know, that's why I'm careful to only pair gay cats with hermaphrodites
>doing act 3 quest with the kings heart>get parasite from a random event on the way there that overrides the coolerdid i get softlocked by this bullshit rng? please tell me i get it later again somehow
>all the hunter completion achievements have double the global percentage than all the other classes have
>>733511935Why would you even share this? this is an American website, you KNOW nobody here speaks this dreck-ass language, so either you're dumb or you're being obtuse on purpose.
>>733512539Just send them to the pipe.
>>733512475Ubercat Eugenics Program attic, never more than 4 or 5 cats up there at most. Managed to get 30 stimulation so far.Middle right - Inbreeding reduction room, Strays + cats that are too tangled in the family tree but still have shit I might wanna transfer in the futureBottom left - High quality cats Bottom right - Fight club
>>733512475what a sane and organized breeding method>all those food boxesjesuswhy do you have so little furniture
>>733512636is it so hard to memorise what the symbols stand for?
>>733512595Are you referring to the guy that post one post at the start of the thread and dip?Somehow he's winning something he's not in
>>733512549first time i reached act 3 part 2 boss, i had the skill rebuke on my cleric (infinite range, deal same damage to unit that that unit last dealt), which i thought kinda sucked, then on the turn before my cleric the boss hit one of his dudes for 999 hp
>>733512704I know that you post several times over the thread's course. Again, I got used to your typing pattern. Hello, jeet.
>>733512172he has a few taking damage passives that make him a decent tank
>>733512678I prioritised food boxes so I would never reach the limit, and I also didn't realise that you can specifically route adventures to get a few bonus furniture items
>>733507932i can fucking not beat this rat like wtf.sometimes he'll throw a bomb and it IMMEDIATELY goes off so you don't even get a chance to do anything about it.i've had 3 party wipes so far.the last time it was raining i couldn't go because i needed to round up more cats.
>>733512683If the context of what you're saying includes ability effects then it's irrelevant
>>733509636Watched a video where a dude did a solo collarless run and he used forbidden fart all the way through
>Mfw The Creator, The Destroyer, THE FATHERI got straight catwalked holy fuck
I got 33 fucking appeal and these are still the fucking strays I get, when does appeal start doing anything??
>>733511439>how the party will look at anon when he tells them he's planning to bring cleric into act 3
>>733512751Keep believing that anon.Next time you see a Jeet irl know that your government is hiring them to steal your job and future.
>>733512632Hard to fuck up a hunter. They can dish out some damage and avoid taking damage if you get zero good skills and perks. Fits my luck perfectly.
Tower Defense might just be my favorite ability in the entire game.
>>733512841What, you want the strays to be maxed?This one already has a base 7. Start breeding.
>>733512841You need to have gay cats fuck so strays "inherit" from them.
is losing a cat an insta-abandon? or is it compensated by the fact that your other cats level up more often?
>>733512632enjoy it before he gets nerfed to uselessness
>>733512841you've clearly forgotten how garbage your starter cats were
>>733512907you can still make it, although its harder the further into the run you are since they'll have soaked up a bunch of levels by then.
>>733512907Random events get like a 40% chance of becoming about giving you a new cat with a neverstone.If you only lose one cat and you still got broken cats, then the only reason why you'd want to abandon is if you got some really incredible shit you want to bring home.
>>733512756The 1 MP for 6 Armor if you're out of armor thing might be cope but it's a lot cheaper than any other self heal for what it does>>733512841With high stimulation the kids will get 3-4 stats from the better parent anyways so it doesn't really matter.
>>733512837I bought my 3 most broken cat to fight themTheir copy cats killed one of mine but that's the extend of it, since it copies one of my cat it does 500 damage to my ranger erasing it from existence.
>>733512907Depends on how integral that cat was to your strategy. There have been times where I could tank the loss and keep going and others where they were too pivotal.
>>733512907Beating it with 3 cats is still doable.Losing 2 or more cats is a bigly problem.
>>733512475Ally farming scum
>>733512907I think I prefer just starting with 3 cats at this point.
>>733512493meds
Hard mode's difficulty is so wack. There's some champion variant of enemies that are practically impossible without the right build. Like a champion daddy shark that moves towards its attacker every time it takes damage. I just gave up and let him eat my whole team.Throbbing King phase 2 was almost like this. He refreshed holy shield at the start of every turn. Every turn, as in not just his own. Had to hit him twice in the same turn in order to damage him, which is almost impossible for melee attackers and still difficult for ranged ones because he jumps away every time he's hit. Luckily status effects get applied and deal damage through holy shield, and my thief had an ability that applies poison without dealing damage so I could spam it on the king without him running away. Also my butcher had the double spin attack passive so the first spin took down the shield and the second damaged the king. would've been a lost run without those two.
>>733512789If it goes off immediately it's cause of fire. The rat becomes an actual danger in a fire heavy zone.Also, deactivated bombs can still explode and become fire. This isn't that relevant if you finish him off quick, but something to keep in mind.
>>733512901I have 2 7-cats already, I'm just worried the inbreeding will become too much so I want strays actually worth a fuck tooBtw is it possible to edit how the save cat looks like? You know, the cat that shows up in your save when you go select a saveMine looks beyond ugly, his eyes are little smiley faces
>>733512996Sounds very unfun. I guess you're supposed to bring uberkatze.
>>733509636Most disorders have positives, and forbidden skills let you cycle them in/out.
>>733512996Last night I was getting Champion fights left and right in Act 1 and 2 runs and I haven't even fully cleared both sides of Act 2 yetToday, nothingI'd think it was because of some random event I tripped or whatever but it was for multiple runs back to back
>>733512632It has a lot of viable skills, and it has become difficult for me to resist trying for familiar boosting skills with the mutations I currently have.
I'm impressed at how healthy this cats heritage is, he got 4 sevens too
>>733512996I believe it expect you to have broken buildscan you believe theres four difficulty?
>>733512996yeah I don't think I'll do hard mode outside of high rollswhich is probably expected since you can bank a lot of power between eugenics and your stored items
>>733507932>have all 4 cats>game gives me an extra with a weak ranged attack>force Dybbuk to possess himWas that the perfect scenario?
are mutations and birth defects inheritable?
>>733513027>I want strays actually worth a fuck tooIf you have high stimulation it shouldnt be a problem. The kittens will try and take the higher of the 2 parent's skills
>>733513159Yes, though you need high stimulation to make it consistent
Holy shit, it's a genie!Quick anon, what should this lad pick for his wish!
>>733513060I got lucky with a shimmer event in the alley that made all my cats super mutants.
>>733513159Yeah
>>733513187Power, he already has good looks :3
>>733513179I always get furniture when possible, and I only have like 15 stim, shitty luck I guess
i genuinely hate the lab so much. so many bullshit random insta kills or enemies doing 10 action combos in one turn. or bullshit disorder giving enemies that ruin the whole run no matter what. call it a skill issue but it feels like one of those unbalanced shitty mods where they just threw in every horrible annoying mechanic and called it "super mega most hardest mod ever!!"
>>733513187what's going on with your speed, anon?
>>733513027>Btw is it possible to edit how the save cat looks like?i wish for this too
I had to abandon a run after Gambit because the dice kept rolling 4 or higher, and the one time it rolled a 1, my cat counterattacked it into a 6.
>>733513187looks will make him retarded be warned
>>733512632crit builds are cheap and strongwhat else do you need?
how much comfort is high enough comfort for consistent cat fucking? My eugenics room is like 45 stim, but I feel like the almost never breed. It's at 6 or 7 comfort.
>>733513247half-rat is the only gay and stupid enemy, you just need to set up the misdirect for him, send him into the other enemies if you can
Lads how the fuck do you guys win runs with sidequest items that turn levelups into shit like rare items and disorders? sounds fucking awful
>>733512632and /v/ called me retarded for saying hunter is an S tier class
The first time I ran desert I got the 6 chamber boss.Every single other time it's been gambit, must be at least 8 times nowIs gambit more common or am I just lucky?
>>733513346I did the rare items one, it was very easy. Some rare items can just carry your whole run.
>>733512632You have to actively try to roll a bad hunter>>733513347That must've been like day 2. I haven't seen a single tier list with hunter out of S since playing.
I just got softlocked. I failed an event and got the cursed rod stuck in my head, taking over the cursed parasite quest item. Exiting the screen gives me a message saying "you need to equip the quest item first".VERY COOL
>>733513353I think I see Gambit slightly more often but has been fairly close to 50:50 for me
>>733513353opposite for me, I have seen gambit exactly once. (he killed me)
>>733513421just equip it on someone else bro
>Summon Crow on a non druid just lets you summon a crowStrictly better than it is on druid because you don't have a crow that needs to die first.Jester cap is nuts, shame an amoeba fuckin broke it.The +version is nuts, it lets you summon crow even if one exists. My mage was outputting 1 crow a turn.
>>733513421yes you need to give the leech to someone else genius
Today's stray brought a fucking nuke
>>733513347Hunter is the most easy class to build they'll end up mediocre or strong but never deadweightI prefer tinkerer once you can breed down specific passive though
>>733513421nvm i could just equip the parasite on someone else im dumb
>>733513217It gave him 4 strength>>733513252He gracefully sacrifices his own mobility for his allies, like a noble kitty he is
>>733513416>That must've been like day 2day 1 in fact. Tank isn't far behind btw
>>733513445How the hell does anyone die to Gambit? Was your entire party at 5HP when you started the fight??
>>733513498I really like TankCan even pull good damage out of its ass with high Luck or horse blinders
>>733513247I've only had trouble the first few times before I learned to respect spewernubs can cause an instant death chain but they're squishy enough its not a problem
>>733513445...He's the easiest boss in the game, mate. The fuck happened?I guess if it was the first time, you would have gone in with low health due to desert bullshit.
>>733513516I had to fight him in Crazy Weather once and the wind was blowing twice a round in un-telegraphed directions, and rerolling his dice.
>>733509112I fucking bet there's an unlock for completing all solo runs
>dybuk takes control of my hunter>hunter has craft arrow+>cleric has thou shall not covet>arena is littered with items>takes out every single cat before i get a turn by constantly reloading + 11 dex>dybuk pops out and instantly gets bipped by the passive that deals +1 to nearby targetsthat was fucking close. i love this game
>>733507932LOOK LE REDDIT CAT IM SO QUIRKY AND CHUNGUS PLAY MEWGENICS HAHA YOU GOT IT? IM SO QUIRKY AND REDDITmewgenics thread should be bannable
>>733513516>>733513548If I recall he rolled double 6's and I got nuked into orbit, I think.It was also my 2nd desert run
>>733513614>YOU DON'T GET IT A GACHA THREAD DIED FOR THIS GRRR IM SO MAD!!!fuck off nigger, get cancer and kill yourself
>>733513614>videogame thread should be bannable
>>733513612I found out earlier that enemy collision kills will set off Thou Shalt Not Kill on the surviving enemy
it's over
Hate all the annoying bullshit admin you are forced to do between runs. Either improve the interface or just give me four random act appropriate cats and equipment allowing me to skip the house entirely...
84 hours inI have NEVER seen the desert white cat boss that charms. I only ever saw it in some random youtube video and i was so confused.
>>733513614>/v/ when the thread isn't about politics, porn, or gacha
Any use for this beyond hoping necromancer gets pestilence/getting the crown of pestilence?
I always have like 6-8 spare breeding cats around. Just send the spare ones on expeditions to try to get spells you want to pass down>>733512678>>733512781I also really need to get that chastity idol
Is it possible to inherit a skill/passive that I want across generations? Does high stimulation help with that?
>>733513696war never changes
>>733513696damn, i'd love a cat with a raptor head
>>733513705Wait that's a desert boss? I've already seen 3 minibosses and 2 bosses. Oddly I didn't see the miniboss that's just your average butcher until I ran a butcher. I figure they have a butcher, a thief and a necro maybe they have more?>>733513717Forgot image*
>>733513749Yes but it's it's still picking like up to 2 out of 10 things it could inherit
>>733513749Yeah I've had persistent hunt in my geneline near the entire game without trying to. It's really persistent.Feels like skills are a bit more heritable than traits.
>shimmer on a breeder cat runFUCKatleast im getting some post it marks
>>733513672it also works great with tanks shoving match passive (allies will attack if you knock enemies into them). it was a pretty bonkers synergy
Having low constitution and speed is just asking to have a hopeless raped run
>>733513975??? but that's good you fucking retard, especially for breeding stock
>>733514006speed is the single most important stat in the game.
>>733514006I don't dare put a cat in unless they have 6 in both
>>733513987Bouncer + Shoving Match was one of my favorite cats ever
>>733513806There's Butcher, Thief, Necro, Cleric, and Jester in the desert
>>733512632>>733513347Cleric is higher than Hunter, and Tank is around the same. Which makes sense, they're the three classes that are always going to do their job even if they get shitty skills. Cleric still heals, tank still tanks, hunter still outranges enemies. And they're all about staying alive or keeping the team alive, so they appeal to players who have problems doing that.
>>733514018>random mutations over writing my good mutations>random mutations clogging up what can be passed downits garbage. its good if you're early and don't have any mutations you want to target but it fucks a cat out of the house if you do
can i stall that red dino like tina?
>>733514225it doesn't pass bad mutations, only the "good" onesunless you have shit like the +1 reroll you're afraid to lose, it's never a bad thing
>>733514246No, the red dino will stall you if you let it
>>733514263My ranger lost his +1 bonus attack body mut my first time doing shimmer.Even "good" mutations can be bad. There's an auto-invert one that is considered good when that's fuckin terrible.
I'm a chumbucket kitty
>3 out of 4 starting classes are S-TierDoes this happen often? I don't play many strategy rpgs
I can see why tinkerer is the best class now Blacksmith is not fucking balanced
>>733514263I do have good mutations I dont want to lose pretty sure stimulation increases odds of passing on an increasing number of characteristics. so if you have a fuck ton of mutations you never pass on skills or passives (or in this case good mutations)giga mutants are funny but not good for the gene pool
>>733514360Oh dang, sorry I called you a retard
>>733513705I had that cat the other day and I wrestle throw it the shit out of it with my tank in 3 rounds.
>>733514360The bear mutation event isn't that uncommon And I've passed it to like half my cats so farI'm actually trying to avoid some "basic attack inflicts X" mutations on some cats cause it's been making it a pain in the ass to run healers or tinkerers ever
>>733514360Health allow cats to live longerTheir health stat also play into their life span too I thinkGood luck anon
>>733514347fighter is A rank and Mage is F tier (unless you luckshit hard), which of these 2 are you not accounting for?
oh yeah, it's all coming together
>>733514352As a tinkerer lover, it's a gacha class. It's somehow the most versatile class in the game while also being the most synergy dependent. I've had games where he's an unstoppable jihadi operative tanking the entire enemy while exploding himself, runs where he's dishing out triple digit damage a turn, but mostly I get runs where he runs around the map dealing two damage a turn and collecting pickups for me.
>>733514352>v2>v3It's Mad Bomber time
>>733514501My average Tinkerer run is being unable to get the weapon stuff, still never seen the tank, so I just take whatever summons/turrets and shit up the battlefieldSo far only the tesla turrets seem fucking useless, the range is crap and they target allies too
>>733514485I thought cleric was a base class and mage was the unlockable :(
kek
Charm and possession are the most bullshit things in the game. When it happens to you the AI becomes super sayen flawlessly min maxing the damage it can do to your team.
>>733514501I bred blacksmith down multiple of the kitten have itI can guaranteed a run aslong as I have guns to give them
RADICAL RAT is the worst boss in the alley and he has the best song
>>733514456you can get the bear mutations from the cave event. solid and easy to get. newer players should gamble on the cave event all the time, it'll set their family line on a good trajectory if they get lucky
>>733514580How the fuck are you so rich?
>RNGslop
>>733514674I've never seen the bear mutation, what should you do with the event?
>>733514662Worst as in too easy or too hard? It's only slightly difficult with lightning or fire everywhere
>>733514347it's usually because they are first ones to be designed and to be the most straightforward, easier to find broken stuff with and devs don't tend to backpedal on them since it's been probably months (or years) from the last time they've rebalanced those classes or whatever>wakfu/dofusiop and the gay archer class rape everything>disgaeamage rapes everything >fftassassin rapes everything (can rush it after fencer viera)>fire emblemidk
>>733514704become bestfriends with dr. beanie
>>733514580how about you put your nona in there you little freak
Is it just me or do wizards kinda suck?Seem like the worst class in the game so far
>>733514752I am ridiculously inept at clearing his quests, how do you people do it??
>>733514347all the classes are goodthe main thing about the starters is that they're consistent (other than mage)I think the reason starting classes seem to always be good is that they're typically generalists
>>733514704I don't have a lot to spend my money on. I don't have space for new weak sauce furniture. I haven't even beaten the moon yet, I'm not that far into the game.I don't tend to skip days without adventuring too often.>>733514627I got lucky recently. My cat that could have spammed a low mana spell and wiped half the party decided to use high mana abilities that buff him instead.
>>733514792look for oppunity to disable its gimmick entirelythe entire floor is shards? Use hunter's team terrain immunity
>>733514642Why not this one?I fucking threw out my persuasion device before I knew of it.
I barely limped through the fight against boneyard boss. Is there something I'm missing or is he just outrageously hard to beat without planning ahead for him and his mechanics?
I WILL clear this run>>733514726The only options are to examine or leave iircIf you succeed you get bear body parts and like half of them are purely positives to Str and Con with no downside.
>>733514767most people seem to agreethe best classes are butcher and ranger btw, probably monk too
>>733514850I dunno, he's infamous but I never struggled with himLike just box him in, surely you have SOMETHING by chapter 3 that would help with that, summons, debris, AoEs, ANYTHING
>>733514792Wait until you get a set of cats that make the specific challenge trivial, that or just have a generally strong giga cat team. Pro tip for 2 of the quests, if you have the angry face mask and the gun, put them on the same cat and that's a free win for both sidequests
>>733514881I don't get what makes butcher so good?I keep getting meat to fly abilities and they aren't that great.
>>733514767They kinda do. You really have to breed a good starting ability into them or you'll get screwed over by a mage with nothing but utility spells.
>>733514792Nah, I'm with you there, I lost two side quests already. Some of these are insanely hard or open for rng fuckery.>>733514767It's a fun class that can occasionally become OP with the right synergy, but yeah, as a baseline it's not very good.>>733514850Definitely plan ahead. If nothing else to get two cats that won't rape your party if they get possessed. I'm nearly three acts in and Dybbuk is still easily the scariest boss I've faced.
>>733514767they're really inconsistenttoo many shit skills that are overpriced some really good synergies though. bunch of ways to round 1 clear the whole mapbet they're crazy if you care enough to breed around them
>>733514910>put them on the same cat and that's a free win for both sidequestsBut one is for the caves and the other is for the boneyard
>>733514868thanks, I'll see if I can't farm some bear mutations
>>733514834end game tinkerer does 100 damage per shot from an smg 5 times with the right equipment it's insane
>>733514767They have such a huge range of abilities its just too hard to naturally roll oen where they all align.I think mage should be split into 4 classes. Fire, ice, electric and a non elemental.
Hmmmm
>>733514909If you kill him through summons or dot, he possesses one cat at random. And if he possesses the wrong cat, you're fucked.Can't help but think that some of the reason why Dybbuk discussion is divisive is because some anons raped him on their run and then faced him two times more. If you actually face these bosses constantly, you'll see that Dybbuk is the one that has the most potential to fuck you up.
>>733514959you keep the item after you beat the quest
>>733514909I started with only 3 cats because it was my first attempt in the Boneyard so I had a hard time moving around. It was also a hurricane so at the end of every round everything would get blown away and my formation would be fucked.I did manage the win but it was a hugely uphill battle. Now that I know what I'm in for I will probably be able to do a lot better in future runs.
>>733514850Once I got to him with no aoe, no minions and only 3 cats. Fucker didn't want to go into a corner. In the end I stopped killing his adds so he got boxed by them and my kitty.
>>733514834Forgot to answerIt's cus blacksmith increase damage by 1 If a weapon hit 5 times it increases it by 5 each turnIf you have double weapon damage multi it increases it by 10 each turn
>>733515037I did that but the angry mask turned into a happy mask, negating its combo with the loner entirelyIf I knew beforehand I'd have done the loner sidequest first, it is what it is I guess
Full Lead armor set is+6 Armor, -1 Speed, +9 TrampleThe trample is nice but -4 speed total is rough.So far haven't seen a set bonus yet that's worth the trouble of hanging onto all the items
>>733515041That's more or less what happened to me but he also did a lot more damage than what I was prepared to handle given that most of my survivors had already been downed at least a couple of times.
>>733515039I mean yeah if you're under that much of a handicap almost every fight will be a struggle
>>733515081You want to breed the Minimum 5 stats passive into your cats if you plan on using sets with drawbacks. Still not worth it though with the shitty amount of item carryover the game gives you.
>>733515081bionic set gives you teleporthybrid set gives you double castI'm sure there's more but I haven't been hunting them
>>733514767mage is three different classes that don't work together
>>733508796where the fuck do i see the unlocks?i'm like 40 hours in
>keep getting new unlocks that deposit a copy into your inventory>running out of space even though I'm at 6x7 sizereeeeAlso peep this potential combo with unlocks. I'm gonna run this shit on a Butcher and pray he gets the thing that lets you vomit up the last used consumable.>>733514921>high damage>high HP>hook allows him to displace enemies from across the map and pull them into the killzone for your team next turn (they're slow so they tend to move after the enemies do)>generates lots of healing pickups just by attacking
Percentages in this game don't seem true. I got a deja vu from cheating it it was WAY more then 10% of the time.
>wizard for me has been nothing but highroll broken builds like an orbital strike that can stun and damage ice cubes>butcher runs so far have been really underwhelming, like a neutered tank that can barely heal itselfyea man butcher is OP lol
I wish there was some warning for trying to end your day with items in the trashcan.Once again I lost items because I left sorting through them for later only to forget about it.
>>733515260Yeah sure but he still only can do one okayish attack without great items or support, well at least I haven'' seen any so far. The best butcher I've ever had was more of a hybrid tank then a DPS and that's not what i want them for. Fighter can roll several ways of bonus attacks naturally and I think they're way better.
>>733511935>wenigerI know what that means, but that's still funny.
>>733515081Bone set is neat. A lot of its items break and give you +1 to a stat stat when you run out of armor. The set bonus gives you more bone items after every fight so you can just instantly replace them after they break. Not run winning but a solid gimmick.
>>733515242beat bosses with new collar for the first timeOr beat end of act bosses like the king with quad collarless
>Get ice horns as a mutation that gives 15% chance to freeze enemies on hit>Chance doesn't apply to Rogue or MageWell that's some shenanery, I even rolled the able to damage frozen enemies passive on my Mage. Could claim it's just RNG but I'm already at the bunker miniboss and not a single frozen enemy.
What are mods you people are looking for? I hope we get a non shit cat interface, like SkyUI but for cats
Welcome to the Fuck fields motherfucker Does anyone know if you are allowed to take a quest item off after the boneyards/caves and if it still counts. Do not feel like doing censored again
why is my cat named that
>>733508550Lord Unga feels ridiculously harder than any other boss/miniboss in act 3 save for maybe The End's boss, since I haven't reached that one yet
>>733515343I feel like butcher is overrated seems like the way that tank feels super strong early, butcher feels strong midthe hook is great if you have low movement speed and the meat is nice if you cant clear fast and need sustain but his kit isnt that greathe does have good builds and all but I don't see him as that specialhonestly my favorite part of butcher is his 8 way basic attack
>Get great Butcher roll with some items>Spawning many meat every round and getting my flies to carry over to next round>Sandstorm event appears>They all die in 1 turngay ass bullshit
Is low charisma max int the ideal psychic?
>>733508117Who is the forth cat in bottom right, is a Necromancer or a Fighter/Tank with madness?
>>733508148you're doing it right, the destination is random and not tied to the specific item so people who rush through the game are getting boned having to bring shitty cursed items to act 3
Once the rift is unlocked can I enter there through both paths later or an my locked to the one I used the Kaiju on?
im sure the game is fucking great, but why does it have to look like that
>>733509882I hate the bubble sidequest so much bros
>>733515504>honestly my favorite part of butcher is his 8 way basic attackThat’s what makes him good and consistent, he hits hard with good range and creates good pickups so even if you get fuck all for skills he will still contribute just by hitting shit and you can hook your own guys if they’re in trouble too. Feels low risk medium reward to me
>>733509921seems like you get more "fuck you" events the farther you've gotten in the game, and they just expect you to breed such op cats that you can play around it
>Can't stop thinking about that one really OP cat you had many runs ago and how nothing seems to every reach that cat's greatness
People sleep on fighter they have some crazy passives like 100% crit from front
>>733514752This reminds me>My first quest item was the Persuasion Device that I needed to bring to the caves>I also has the battery in my storage, so I could tame up to 2 enemies per fight>I also had a cat born with Sneak Up, who I made a warrior>End up taming a bunch of brain drains, so the enemies both can't use abilities and get pummeled with progressively stronger attacks>This trivializes the run>But my warrior with the Persuasion Device dies anyway during the spider fight, so I failed the questI was so mad.
>>733514767If I can't stack magic missile related stuff and spam across the map I sleep
>want to bring tinkerer to the caves for the unlock>blow him up with anarchists cookbook midway through sewersAm I retarded?
>>733515569You should've gone for a spin 2 win butcher.
Going to the Throbbing Domain after the Graveyard is retarded, right?Since you basically end up with a guaranteed cat going down due to the piece of shit bouncing ball of a cat.
>family line ends because the kittens aren't hornyhow did it go so wrong, /v/?
I have too many cats, I feel bad getting rid of them when they have cool attacks after adventuring :(
>>733515585On the default difficulty high charisma, low int is ideal for every class. Most content can be won in a single round for every act. I haven't raised the difficulty yet, so this might not be the case for higher difficulties.Either way, your charisma needs to be at least half your int. You can't gain more mana than your cap (cap is charisma x2)
>>733515719RIP Joker. You were such a good cat, before the charmed fighter bit off your head.
>Magic damage isn`t the lightbulb its the arrowhuh?
>>733515856Getting downed is only 1 stat down, and half the time it's probably a stat that doesn't matter.>>733515897>You can't gain more mana than your cap (cap is charisma x2)x3
Butcher self-harm for free turns is wild.
today I learned not to stand between 2 ubermen
>>733515261It could be highrolled by luck (edmund calling you a shitter who plays worse than AI)
>>733515959Yeah but also consider the health you regain after the fight.If you fight spider queen and have the confidence to go after the TD, you can realistically end up with enough health where you're not at risk of anything and your cats are top notch form.If you go to the graveyard, you're basically crippling one of your cats with no reason and risking them getting downed right as the fight starts, depending on speed/gear.Also is there any scenario where you don't want to loot the king?Is there any penalty?Is it like a 50/50 chance for the cat looting to get fucked somehow?
>>733515980That's the 25 damage move right?I once had the really cool item that when you null damage with the holy shields it deals that damage as sparks to enemies.So I had 2 free 25 sparks each battle.
>>733515458No, you need to keep them on. 95% sure I tested.
what class is best for the loner gun quest
>>733516076Fuck well i'm not doing throbbing king with no hp bars or without a healer, i'll just get the sidequest over with
>>733515458If you take a quest item off before the quest is finished, the game doesn't let you leave the screen until you put it back on.
>>733515897Psychic has tons of abilities that only work when cast from max mana
i'm a chumbucket kitty
>>733516087I did it with Fighter
>>733516087Any classYou do know you're expected to beat each run with each class solo for full completion marks right?
>>733515719you honored their legacy by giving them lots of children and preserving their family line right?
>>733516053>Is it like a 50/50 chance for the cat looting to get fucked somehow?There's a chance the cat insta dies
>>733516070Yeah but it's 15 damage when upgraded. Combined with the lifesteal chomp, you can stack the turns (and then use lifesteal during your extra turns to get your health back)
I'm pretty sure the upgraded Necromancer corpse destroying spell that's supposed to give you two free spells straight up doesn't work. It seems to still only give one free spell, just like the unupgraded version. Steakmund pls fix
>>733516087I saw someone a few threads back or somewhere combine it with the Angry Face quest that puts the cat on the enemy team so it'd wipe out the rest of the enemies and then the dude just had to deal with the loner cat, maybe give him a neverstone too
>>733515225good way to put it. Tinkerer is somewhat similar
>>733516163>You do know you're expected to beat each run with each class solo for full completion marks right?Who gives a shit? It gives no unlocks
>>733516257He thinks he's playing Balatro
>>733516227Neverstone and Angry Face doesn't work. The traitor cat destroys the Neverstone on Turn 1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEnprri1ge4HULK HOGAN IM HITLER
>>733512475How do you have such little furniture but so many rooms?
How huge is the name list for cats? I've gotten names from game's I've played, I've gotten names ripped from my friends list, I've gotten Saul Goodnyan.
>>733516053>Yeah but also consider the health you regain after the fight.So keep a can of cat food on you.
The hunter arrow item that gives your next basic attack more range and some other stat, I forgot which, is bugged and gives that range to all abilities too until you use your basic attack
>>733512789Stop running such low speed
>>733514767I'd debate and say Collarless cat is better than Mage. At least they can take a few hits as a meatshield.
>>733516459sad but true, collarless really isn't terrible
WHY AM I FIGHTING PILES OF SHIT THAT SPAWN WALKING TURDSWHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS GUY
mages aren't that bad, stop exaggerating
>>733516383I got a name from the Wheel of Time books. Aviendha.
>>733515445i already beat a boss i think?i'm saying if there's some place where i can see the unlocks like the one from isaac
>>733516632Hover over the cat collar in the main menu or during collar selection and it'll show you what checkmarks you completed. You'll know if you got an unlock as it comes with an achievement and a pop-up notifying you what you unlocked like in Isaac.
>>733516632>i already beat a boss i think?>i'm saying if there's some place where i can see the unlocks like the one from isaachover your mouse over the collars when picking a team
>lunges in a ""random"" direction>that direction is directly at your cat 100% of the time>also immobile doesn't prevent it from doing this despite it working that way for YOUR unitsrrrrrrreeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>733510048I don't think your actions have any effect on the events, at least not the events you get. I'm playing around with save scumming and backed up the save after class selection (still on the item selection screen). I reloaded the save at the end of the lab and all of the events in the lab were the same, same cats, same outcomes (obviously they should have the same outcomes because the cats are the same). Also the skills and passives they select at level up are also rolled as early as the class selection screen. It might actually be rolled at the start of the day.In theory if your cats are all 7s you could alleviate the bad events but your fate is decided before you even start the run. Everything has already been predetermined and rolled.
>>733507932Made for BWC
>>733514921they are just very consistently good in a game full of randomness and dead shit build potentialalways does pretty ok damage, tanks a lot, has innate heals with the pickups and the hook plus diagonal targeting can trivialize otherwise painful encounters baseline butcher is so good that you could have 0 actives and it'd still be better than a lot of other classes when they have a full set of abilities (but they are all dogshit/mid ones with no synergy as it often happens), and butcher honestly have no 3 bad passives you can get so your passives are always at the very least useful (or you get spin to win, hack or rankle and collect your free won run)
Where can I listen to this niggas song? The alleged one with lyrics? Hell I cant find either on YouTube
>>733517016https://youtu.be/txOHKAHEIX0?list=RDtxOHKAHEIX0If you have -IQ, you can hear it ingame
I thought monk was a dud class but it can be pretty op
>>733517074Thanks dude. When I fought him I heard the caveman version
>>733514062if that is true then why are thieves so garbage
>>733517074Wat, really? That's cool. I think Fallout 2 did something like that where if you make a retard character he can understand the other retard charaters perfectly.
>>733517196they aren't
>>733517124You need to complete the lab for it right? Any advice?
>>733517229they're trash albeit
>>733517196They aren't, but they do suffer from the tinkerer stuff of needing specific shit to be busted, to a lesser extent
Now that enough people have unlocked them, what do we think of Jesta's?
>>733517252it's just the first zone, it's kinda easy
>>733517196Like most classes they have to roll well. A coin build is pretty op. With critical giving coins, extra movement and another attack.
>tfw you realise that this isn't just a throwaway line, but actually two major spoilers for the lategame and dr. Beanie's backstory respectively
>>733517332Is it? I struggled hard with desert and had an easier time with the other areas after it
>odd remote casts mech suitFuck yeah get rekt Desert bullshit
>>733517074I hate my mom, so I can jam to this
>>733517343The reverse time I get the spoiler, but I don't get the rest, what do you mean?
>>733517196>crit passives>needles pierce armor>movement skills let you start the fight by getting a kill then moving to safetythey're very good
>>733517343> He's probably the most evil Edmund character by far, manipulating Isaac's mom into waging war against heaven to save her son (who is perfectly happy in heaven) simply over a cat.
>>733517252take a range heavy team to avoid catching the various forms of aids the rats dish out, getting a bad one can kill your run
>>733517196Just had nice run with thief with rubber cement msking projectiles bounce on nearby enemy and upgraded poison barrage hitting all enemies the cat can see that also adds stun and with high luck they kept critting. Was doing leech quest and the boneyard boss of course possessed the thief and the pissessed thief almost annihilated my team. Luckily had zombie army thanks to necro so the zombies ate nost of the projectile bounces
>>733517483>who is perfectly happy in heavenDon't you find the chest with his soul in The Core?
>>733517376eh I brought a pretty ragtag group and didn't have any trouble. Didn't even bring a ranger. Just tank, butcher, thief and druid. You probably need some brace for the tank though.
>>733517437Spoilers for the very end of the game:The entire reason why Beanies experiments on cats and wants to nuke the Creator is because his cat, the original Stacy, died and he never got over it.
>>733517521>>733517443>>733517342>>733517305>>733517229thievecringes will never be rangerGODS, The ranged class to rule them all.
>>733517629I know that but what the fuck does that have to do with making dying impossible? You don't recover Isaac or Stacy at the end
HANDS START TO SHAKELEGS START TO QUAKE
>>733517629 The lost event is random, it pops up anywhere, its probably only haunting those areas due to Isaac's mom being there.I think canonically he's supposed to be in heaven but the act of God taking a soul from an outside perspective is considered horrifying and eldritch since that final battle looks terrifying, but how do we know if thats what souls are supposed to do?
>>733517279they are literally A tier
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>>733516087ok soI picked butcher and forgot it has a permastuck weaponso I started doing a solo butcher run, sureone of my passives turned my basic attack in 2x spinthe other one made all my attacks produce fliesand then I have a skill that lets me trample to any piece of meat so I'm not completely crippledI was planning on dying or hopping off at the end of alley if I got lucky but it looks like I got very lucky
>>733517847just instawon the junkyard boss because they didn't have space to spawn or something
MRS MARY WINSTON JONESCOULD NOT HAVE ANY CHILDREN〜WHEN HER HUBBY'S SEED SWAM INTHE LORD ABOVE JUST KILLED 'EM〜〜〜
>>733517196Thieves are shit only if you lowroll getting mobility skills
>>733517902ok I just win every battle, neat
>>733517902>>733517956funny tech
This guy is not having fun during the floor is glass mission. One of my cats having Mega Fart and forcing everyone to move turn 1 is not helping either.
Does Hyper Beam not upgrade?
>>733517990Hyper beam has the strongest upgrade. You can spam it now. Get it
>>733517987>2 conmay as well destroy his corpse by that point
>>733518028Oh.
Alright I really wanna clear this run so someone tell me the deal with this fuckerDo I want to just send my fighter into his mouth?
>>733517678Him trying to bring back Stacy via cloning was an attempt to "make dying impossible". Since he couldn't do that he settled on just destroying all of existence.
>>733518164Did blowing up the creator change fucking anything at all?
>>733517987The floor wasn't the only thing made of glass
>>733518160yeah, either send your tankiest feline or bait the hands into slapping the head
>>733518202It's a rougelite, what do you think?
>>733518281Well I mean in terms of story, I know in practice nothing would change
>>733518160the art style in this game is genuinely so cool and so much more interesting than all the polished turds out there that you feel nothing looking at
>>733517906(Awww...)
>>733518352I just wish it was less like grey sludge, vibrance of some areas is too fucking low, I feel like I'm in that episode of The Fairly OddParents
>just unlocked the psychicwhat stats should I have on him before I torpedo my first run?
>>733516747GATO FATO
>>733518247ThanksThat seemed like it would've been pretty easy even with just sending someone on the inside, the chewing barely did anything and all he had was a few points of armor to start
>>733518758yeah, sending a cat in is much easier than doing it the other way>first time fighting him I didn't really read anything and just chipped away at his brace while making the hands slap him
>get these two skills on my psychic>it's my fastest cat>now my hardest hitting cat gets multiple turns while the rest on my team acts before the enemyI love this class
Get fucked. Not my first time fighting Dybbuk, but get fucked.
>>733510074>gifted kid ends up as a genetic dead enddamn just like real life
what's the main metric for progression? I've cleared the sewers and junkyard, with 23 cats sent to Frank, but I still only have the base 4 classes
>>733518715Just check the collar in the pause menu, that tells you which stats it values. Works for almost every class. (Tinker's the exception since you actually want a decent charisma stat to fit the mana it regens every turn)
>>733507932this game makes me want to get my pc fixed real bad
>>733518820The fighter had armor that inflicted bruise so it outweighed the brace in a few turns anywaysAnd he was hitting for like 30+ damage from the inside
Is 7 the highest they can naturally go? I was hoping we'd be able to make absolutely retarded 99 abominations.
>>733518960come back in 4 years when the DLC comes out
>>733509636>Fart>Gets stinky>All my cats immediately start the battle by using their move to get as far away as possible>They walk right into the one hit kill shark>Lose two cats immediatelyI was so mad. Still ended up winning my run by just spamming the fart though.
>>733518921Classes are always unlocked at the end of clearing certain zones for the first time.
>>733518960Base stats yeahWith inherited mutations you can start in the double digits easily
>>733519116is there a limit to the amount of mutations inherited?
>>733518960Just breed one of the self casting passives that increase stats, and a mana cost skill/passive that makes the mana cost zero. Then go to town your first turn.
>>733519148Depends on how high the Stimulation is in the room I thinkMost of my freak parents have freak children
i was gonna clear my backlog this year and now im gonna be playing this forever...
this is the family tree of a medium inbred cat
>>733516227I already did the gun + angry face combo to beat angry face, did I fuck up
>>733516379capricorn venus
kek got magic missile on the eye birth defect cat lets go
>>733515465Because you're a filthy pirate
do the collarless unlocks require a full team of collarless or only one collarless cat in the team?
>>733520197both, I believe
>>733519116winning cat fights increases base stats no?
>>733520284yes, there's even a furniture item that doubles stat ups from winning fights
>>733519975i always feel bad when i kill the shit out of maisie and/or her kittens
Just met Spewer after getting a depressed cat that drained all my HP at the start of the fight. I hate him
>>733520404I liked it when I catch them in a big AOE and she has to choose between her children
>>733519975>Kill one of her cats>She doesn't enrage or anything, she just cries.This ain't funny anymore Ed.
Every single time I've given wizards a chance, I've regretted it. What a useless class.
>>733520701Wizards are better for status effects than anything in my experience. I've had a wizard who turned people to rock and then my tank ate them.
>>733520701The elmental passives are so bad. 90% chance you never get a spell of that element, or if you do, 90% chance you don't get the matching passive.
hey it's me, goku!
>>733520865They're just too dependent on RNG to be slightly above useless. 1 out of 10 runs you've had a good wizard run. You could've had 10 out 10 good runs with any other class.
>>733520701I had a wizard that had a skill that donated all its mana and then had a passive that gave bonus mana regen but emptied the mana bar to 0 at turn end, it was pretty swanky
>instantly lose a cat to DybbukI can at least cleanse it, right?
>>733517196>>733517926Wrong, thieves are shit if you don't have 7 Con base, if you have that you're gold. A lot of their skills are like 1/1 mana to damage and other benefits, or some of the best relocation in the game.
>>733517645i won't dispute that but the thief is ok too
birds: wizardsmoustache man: ranger
>>733521001Yeah. My best wizard was one with magic missile, crescendo, and that one passive that gives magic damage from ally spellcasts. It was a ton of work for the damage.Was funny though because Dybbuk had no clue how to use them and blew all their mana for like four damage.
>>733520701Only good Wizard I had had Surf+ and mana share
>>733520701I honestly think they're so powercrept by psychic it's stupid. If they just gave their control spells more range or added more terrain to most of the maps, I think they'd almost have a niche, but as they are now they don't feel viable to be anything more than a stun or freeze bot.
>>733520701I started with a mage who had Mega Blast vost 15, could cast it on second turn doing 15 damage per tile to 3 tiles long cone. Also had item/ability which refreshed basic attack that had stun chance if used 15 mana in turn.
>>7335213076 con is good enough. Hell, 5 works too unless you get a total shitter build. Don't know why people have so much trouble with the class, my average thief performs way better than the average cat of almost any other class.
>>733520701My most recent wizard I literally took the collarless skill "hunt" as the last skill so I could "Learn From Me" it onto other units because all my other spells were so shit.Half their spells do AoE which is just annoying because you're more likely to hit an ally (or just be unable to cast effectively) than an enemy at the ranges they give.Most of them have absolutely shit fucking range and do absolutely shit fucking damage and maybe some status effect that might proc 15% of the time and be relevant 15% of the time.Everything elemental is shit. Everything. Perks, skills, doesn't matter. All shit. The best things you can see are heavy/mega blast, magic missile, or a fucking colorless."Two" and "Four" are shit. Not nearly rewarding enough for what they are.
>>733507932act 2 is so dogshitit's incredible how boring this game becomes the more you progress
>>733517987He made it somehow and did the most damage to the King by triggering his bleed 40+ stacks of bleed until he got to phase 2 before passing out from knockback damage during the phase change
