sounds like a problem of the inventory, not of having block variety. perhaps if there was a more logical system instead of the bizarre "stacking" thing...

>>733520326
/thread

>>733519981
Minecraft pretty much died since the Mojang acquisition. Besides, there isn't much to do unless you got friends, and even then it's more of a chore simulator.

>>733520326
No, bags and shulkers are already a thing, but no one wants to be sorrting all that useless shit all the time and having to build an auto sorter every time you play is bad. The copper golem helped a bit but it shouldn't be necessary

>>733520475
True

the problem is they never gave you a reason to actually build things. there is like no gameplay reason to build a house or any structure. at most you might build something to store items, but thats it. so it makes most of the game feel kind of pointless.

>>733519981
50 shades of gray

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Let me guess, you need more?

>>733519981
just let me turn any stone block into cobblestone by hand, it would solve the inventory problem for normal people

>>733520669
This
One thing le bintage sdory gets right is that there's actually a purpose to build buildings
>get passive buffs from being indoors
>food spoilage rates are significantly lowered in cellars
Etc. Even these reasons are not enough, but it's better than nothing

>>733519981
>go play virtual LEGO
>wtf why does this game pander to builders!?!?!?!?!11?!?!??!

>install a vanilla+ modpack
>punch trees
>mine iron
>like the good ol days
>inventory filled up with new ores
>no idea what they're used for
>the mods that show recipes shows nothing
>theres no satisfaction in building or exploration
I don't think minecraft is for me anymore

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>>733520737
this and glass and glowstone. can make beautiful things since the old days

>>733519981
>builders wanted more mobs
>builders wanted revamped fucking combat
>builders wanted hunger
>builders wanted the wither
>builders wanted pillagers
>builders wanted the ender dragon
you're retarded, all these years later and they still don't have half the cool shit tekkit had, terraria adds more blocks in one patch than minecraft has added in it's entire existence, minecraft was viral early on with shit like 1:1 replicas of the starship enterprise and they saw that and decided what the game needed was a sword cooldown

>>733519981
People like you start a world, rush diamond armor, and then drop the world within a week.
Builders will work on a single world for years, you're a finicky and fickle fuck that cares about minmaxing in a block game.

>>733520669
Anon, you have to be capable of basic self-directed creativity.

>>733525710
>People like you start a world, rush diamond armor, and then drop the world within a week.
No, I don't? I try to slowly play this shitty game but there is so much useless shit in it now I eventually lose patience and leave. They even had to make combat gayer

>>733525796
I can't do this, my thinking is too rigid

>>733525849
Useless if you don't have an interest in exploring that area, useful if you do.
I don't care much about Redstone. Does that mean that I'd be justified in saying it all should be removed from the game?

>>733519981
>2011
>few possible blocks exist
>30+10 inventory

>2026
>200+ variations in vanilla alone
>30+10 inventory
yeah i have better use of my time

>>733526087
No but you would be justified in being mad if for a while their only meaningful additions ruined what you liked about the game and only added useless redstone fluff

>>733526318
What did you materially like about Minecraft that it no longer provides?

>>733519981
they should have appealed to geology autists
same end result, but at least it would have been accurate

>>733526392
A challenge

>>733526087
>I don't care much about Redstone. Does that mean that I'd be justified in saying it all should be removed from the game?
you would be justified if the only uses for redstone were compasses, maps, and clocks

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>>733526427
they should've added everyone's favorite stone, microcline

>>733519981
it's pretty insane they didn't just introduce a paint bucket tool and let you paint any block
then keep all blocks you find in the world as it was, super simple

Here is my genuine 100% dogshit opinion: too many block options for building killed the creativity and fun of minecraft. Too many options and so many similar looking textures makes everything look too samey. It also got rid of the fun of trying to be creative by using lesser used blocks to pull off some kind of effect in your build.

>>733526783
not to mention all "builders" copy from the big youtubers and it all ends up looking samey, and when you do things differently they are quick to point out how you are doing it wrong kek

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>>733526467
MC was never a hard game.
You could always stack more meat than enemies could out DPS and turtle up to heal.
>>733526521
The thrust of this thread is complaining about too many blocks.
Building is just as intricate as redstone.
I'm using almost all the shades of stone the game has in this build I'm about 1/2 done with. And it would look much worse if I didn't have that ability, in my mind.

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>>733527274
>Building is just as intricate as redstone.

>>733527274
>The thrust of this thread is complaining about too many blocks.
no, it was complaining about too many items which fills up your inventory quickly for no good reason. adding a bunch of blocks whose only purpose is to look pretty while not doing anything to increase our inventory space is annoying.
if redstone's only purpose were novelty items like the ones I mentioned and a few pretty decorative blocks it would be rightly hated for being a useless ore, just like how copper is hated now for being a useless ore that's only useful for a few gimmick items and decoration
redstone is objectively a good (if incomplete) addition to the game because it expands the depth of how you interact with the world - now you can make a bunch of cool stuff with pistons, dispensers, hoppers, etc. and if nothing else at least it adds a few cool traps to certain structures
I don't think there's a single person who plays minecraft who's over the age of 10 who hasn't at least built one redstone contraption

the build looks like dogshit btw. using different shades of grey doesn't hide the fact that it's a formless blob of blockvomit. using more uniform colors would make it better and less grating on the eyes.

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>>733527274
I could do a lot of this with less shades, but the build would look worse for it.
So why would I ever want less color granularity?
>>733527427
Post builds.
Can you build as well as someone like BdoubleO100 (a popular youtuber in /v/'s minecraft threads)?
Do you really think it takes less brainpower to be that aesthetically creative than to make a circuit?
My build is a mediocre little fort that I used to fuck around experimenting with using wall blocks on.
The kinds of stuff people who are actually good do, with using glass or the like to create shadows or senses of depth is very complex and takes a lot of grey matter to figure out.

If it was easy, people on /v/ wouldn't complain about how annoying it was to do.

>>733519981
Minecraft started off as a builder game, other then bitch basic enemies, all of the pseudo-rpg elements were added later.

>>733527859
See, all of those little doo-dads mean nothing to me because I find them boring to interact with.
Imagine if instead of wasting time dealing with Observers, they added black iron blocks and variants of Gold/Iron blocks so you'd be able to build things with more metallic textures. That to me would make the game much more fun.

>blockvomit
You're telling on yourself.

>>733523276
sovl...

>>733527859
Post an example of how you'd add aesthetic detail and break up homogeneity on a build made primarily of stone brick and andesite, please.

>>733528880
Easy, don't make a building of primarily stone brick and andesite.

>>733522978
>99% of new ores are fucking garbage because you're just going to get diamond in the first hour anyway.

>>733526783
>too many block options for building
only if you want your building to be stone-gray or wood

>>733531823
meanwhile mojang adds copper tools because people are using stone tools for so long and they don't want to waste precious iron
I'm people

>>733519981
>appealing to builders
building is the point of the game
what else is there? the gay ass ender dragon? combat that consists of clicking lmb over and over again?
you mine shit to build more efficiently, but building cool things is the core appeal

>>733532009
We needed a proper Flint (stone) -> Copper -> Bronze -> Iron -> Steel -> Diamond progression

>be me
>having a minecraft phase
>start a single player world, make a cobblestone base
>make a villager trading hall
>earn hundreds of emeralds on sticks
>get enchanted diamond gear
>go to nether
>find a fortress, find a blaze spawner, get a bunch of blaze rods for brewing
What now? I'm kinda left with a sucky part which is exploring the Nether looking for bastion I guess? And looking for Ancient Debris?

>>733532203
I dunno, that feels like a bit much.

>>733532224
go rape the dragon

>>733527274
>>733527870
>blockvomit
kill yourself

>>733532674
Post something you've built.

>>733532185
zoomers play MC as if it were 3D terraria, which it isn't, which leads to endlessly looping cycles of consternation.
See >>733532224 for example
These people never think "hm maybe I should build shit in the sandbox building game, maybe that would be fun."

>>733532752
It can't be zoomers because I'm a zoomer and that shit just sounds incomprehensible to me, Terraria isn't a progression only game either though

>>733532665
with diamond gear?

>>733532752
>>733532224 (me)
I don't mind building stuff but I'm shit at it. I'd like to build myself a nicer house since I'm literally living in a cobble block but I don't really have an idea how to make a nice looking home, which blocks to use etc. I guess I should just boot up creative mode and play with it until I'm satisfied.
I'd also like to build myself a tower that hides my iron farm inside and can also be used as a roadsign but again this is much work and I don't want it to look ass.
Alternatively I could just be making castle #573 with cobble bricks

>>733532949
>Terraria isn't a progression only game either though
Terraria isn't SOLELY a progression game, but it does accommodate the desire for a progression based action adventure game with sandbox elements on the side (sorta like bethesda games, too).
Minecraft doesn't really. It has the smallest pretense of progression gameplay with shit like ocean temples and the end, which is why its existence is so frustrating to certain people.

>>733533142
You get better at building by building and tweaking builds.
Its sort of like that old myth about shaving facial hair off makes it twice as strong, except its every time you do a new build, it's better than the last one (provided you are trying to improve and not just making cobblestone cubes)

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>>733532959
yes??? what the fuck you think people did it with before 1.16?

>>733533361
I dunno man
I played first time two years ago with friends and didn't even go to the Nether
But welp, I guess it's worth giving a try to finding an end fortress. I'm not autistic enough to do the eye method tho.

>>733533618
>end fortress
my bad it's called a stronghold I guess

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>>733533618
i think this is the first time the thought of "there are people who didn't first play minecraft over a decade ago" has ever crossed my mind. sorry for getting uppity.

>>733533995
It's all right, anon.

>>733519981
Minecraft's decline started when they added enchanting.

>>733525796
Shelter is not purely self-directed creativity in real life, it's totally sensical for housing to have some mechanics related to it.

>>733532752
builderniggers are why trading halls etc exist. they want loopholes to get overpowered gear and a janky creative mode where they can retain the dopamine of "earning" items with farms.
it's about hyperrealistic megabuilds in "survival" for updoots.
it's their income or attempt at relevance. it's the same reason speedrunners didn't want to risk the iceologer slowing them down.

>>733535372
trading halls etc exist.
farming in minecraft is either abusing exploits (iron golem farms) or content slop that nujang added to the game to fill it up with lots of random systems and mechanics like terraria.
>it's about hyperrealistic megabuilds in "survival" for updoots.
oh no, building in the building game, how awful

>>733527870
>Do you really think it takes less brainpower to be that aesthetically creative than to make a circuit?
It's not even up debate lol

OP isn't exactly right but all the builders in this thread are coping hard damn

>>733536421
Post a build.

>>733537160
I don't lose my time blockvomiting shit in a single player game dude. The fact you are even trying to argue this is insane. Give any retard 1 month to build anything and he will eventually figure it out something that looks decent, give the same retard 1 year to solve a very simple redstone challenge like logic gates by himself and he won't be able to do it lol

>>733520475
This

>>733537568
Post a build, anon, c'mon. Show us how easy it is.

>>733537568
>Give any retard 1 month to build anything and he will eventually figure it out something that looks decent, give the same retard 1 year to solve a very simple redstone challenge like logic gates by himself and he won't be able to do it lol
pretty much, artfags are retarded

>>733537568
>>733537831
Why are people so incapable of creativity like this?

>>733538058
Making complex and efficient redstone circuits require more creativity than building vomit lego builds you half copied from your favorite youtuber dude lol

>>733538210
>implying you don't just copy raysworks or ethoslab shit
Just post a build. Show the fruit of your visual-spatial reasoning.

>>733538653
>I copy half of my shit from youtubers so you must do it too
lol, lmao even

>>733538761
NTA but please post a build
I really want to see

Minecraft was a build game before it was an adventure game. What a crazy view to have on it.