Are you winning son?
>>733578784https://youtu.be/TlrB891PLgo
>Want to farm and try out builds>But DLC will have higher drop rates, extra graces, and ethereal qualitySAD
its the best souls game that i've played yetbut I got a souls fatigue, so I can't play more than 1 hour each day
Thinking of buying the game. Is the performance as bad as it was in ronin?
If by winning you mean>find lvl 170 armors>find lvl 170 weapon>find lvl 170 accessories with the graces I want AND decent substatsthen no, I'm losing
>>733578784Just finished with NG+. It was fun. Tried a bunch of weapons and just like 1 and 2, I ended up sticking to Axe anyway. I don't know why I bother trying, I always come back to Axe.Got most of my gear to +15, though can't be assed doing more.
did someone say lootslop?
>>733578853Fucking awful parryslop. Surely someone can make this fight look good?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO6hqxjvQQchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shCX2-dZXc0i cry when i hear this, i miss hideespecially last boss in the main game, when your monke pal tried to help you..
>>733578972>Fucking awful parryslop. Surely someone can make this fight look good?Amazing. You call it awful, yet you're dependent on someone else to walk the walk.
>>733578937>Got most of my gear to +15Why would you openly brag about bug abuse? You didn't beat the game.
>>733578853Kek, the no non-sense gamer.
>>733579064Got the achievement, so pretty sure I did. Cry more.
>>733579048I think that fight sucks ass and I cannot prove myself wrong, neither can your eceleb
>>733578853I find this slop offensive
>>733579207If you don't like parryslop, you know where the door is.
Takechiyo doesn't skip leg day
>>733578972Fights were fun to watch in 2, especially with evasion cancelling where the player weaved in and out of enemy attacks without breaking combos. You can still play that way - it's more engaging and fun for me than ignoring positioning to deflect everything - but even the best JP players are just doing no-hit perfect deflects because the new bosses are made for it and they probably put thousands of hours playing the old way to the point where it's become stale.
>>733579432SEED PRODUCTION ACCELERATED
>>733578853I like the fight with him in Ronin more.
>>733579432There's barely any muscle definition there
>>733579607that's the perfect amount on a woman, when you can tell she works out, but not too chiseled, liked a cardio bunny that also does squats and pullups, but isn't on the anavar and protein shakes
>>733579749>that's the perfect amount on a womanIndeed.
>>733579479So no one can make that fight look good. Sad!
>>733578972It's nothing special but I managed to get him pretty low without taking a hit while staying reasonably aggressive last time I fought him.https://streamable.com/stdg8j
>>733578784Anyone got some nice grace combos for Samurai 1kat? I've got a nice farming set and ninjustu set, but I'm wondering what's worth it for Sam beyond just slapping Benz on it
how's the stance flow on 1kat anyway? i've been 2kat or fists all my nioh career so i'm too accustomed to rising gale or winter wind, how does this shit work on other weapons, manual flux intervals? frost moon?
>>733579801Nice, someone playing Nioh. Too bad about phase 2
>>733578887>every game with a third person perspective and melee combat with swords is soulsyeah man i love souls games like fable, too.
>>733580238would she befriend hiddy
>>733579479>Fights were fun to watch in 2No they're not. 95% of Nioh 2's high level play is DMC combo wank for everything, and that's because the most optimal way to play is to get all enemies into a never ending stagger state.
Had to refund because of the absolutely terrible performance despite meeting system recommendations.Which is a pity because what I could stomach (up to the title drop) was a lot of fun
>>733580475That sucks, bro, I don't think we can expect a major performance update either, maybe some minor ones.
>>733578784FUCK YOU NG+ CRUCIBLE OKITA SOJI AND YOUR INFINITE SUPERARMOR
>>733578887You should try Ninja Gaiden and Metal Gear Rising Revengeance, they're great Souls games
>>733580154Nioh is a souls ripoff series
I wish 1kat could learn okita's signature triple stab move
love how those cunts nerf versatility, but still make benzaiten the rarest fucking grace to drop, CUNTS!
>>733580475what specs?
>no mandatory bath level and missiongame bad
>>733580583fighting him in the side quest so he doesn't appear before yoshinobu is the way
>>733580616Neither of those games/series are particularly good but they are not souls, nioh is a souls clone with gimmicks in general they just copy fromsoft they see fromsoft go open, they go open, they see fromsoft make a game around parries, they do the same, they see red danger attack needs special defense option, they copy that
>>733580583Good job, you've got him cornered
How does benzaiten work with the skill that also gives adaptability?
>>733580698speaking of which, i'm surprised modders hasn't fixed it so we can use photo mod while bathing, can't imagine that's very complicated to unlock
>just found out dual swords have less parry frames than other weaponsfuck why is this allowed?
>>733580004Phase 2 isn't too bad but I gotta find ways to engage with him more while he's spasming out with his hyperarmor because just waiting for his bursts while keeping distance is pretty lame. Also nekomata feels like a bit of a crutch but it's too fun to usehttps://streamable.com/pgdgdw
>>733580327Hiddy still killed a ton of yokai. There would be a lot of tsundere antics.
>>733580760benzaiten basically buffs versatility by deflecting shit, and max versatility stacks is about 40% more dmg, same as a carnage talisman, so you get versatility stacks by deflecting and attacking, pairs pretty nicely with general of ruin 5p bonusyou gotta give up Awakening (faster casting) for it though, so you gotta be a parryslop enjoyer to appreciate it
>>733580673The ones listed on Steam.My PC meets of exceeds every one of the listed specs, let alone the minimum specs.Still experienced tons of frame drops nearly everywhere in the game, despite trying to set the graphics settings to the lowest possible, trying tricks found online, even changing settings in BIOS.I came to the conclusion that this game is optimized like absolute shit on PC despite looking like a game that came out 5 years ago
>>733580698There's a whorehouse this time and it also has fantastic level design.
>>733580824At least a hundred cute half-yokai kids to make up for this.
>>733580653There is always the DLC.
>>733580776dual swords and cestus has 8 frame parry window, other weps have 10, deflection expert makes the parry window for other weapons 13 frames, but does nothing for dual swords and cestus...also 1kat mystic art and deflection expert doesn't stack, they both make the deflect window 13 frames.i'm used to the timing on dual swords deflect so not too mad about that part, but deflection expert doing absolutely nothing i'm a bit irate about, if it's a bug they should fucking fix it, and if it's not then the fucking skill should come with a warning instead of "lul, here, waste 6 points cunt"
>>733580850Faster casting is useless in nioh 3, only the summons are good and they are already fast, calamity ninjutsu rapes all elemental magic
>>733578990>when your monke pal tried to help you..rare based frogposterI'm also a sucker for moments like thatIt's also probably overdone at this point, but I had a similar reaction and subsequent buff in the final fight of N3 when the Nioh motif overtook the final boss theme in the second half of the fight
>>733580973it's more about the QoL, throwing on barrier etc. is nice, but without awakening, casting anything or buffing anything mid fight is miserable, and probably gonna be next to useless in DLC as bosses get even spergier
>>733580858Okay but why don't you list them?
>>733578937Hey, this is where I post from as well.
>>733580850>pairs pretty nicely with general of ruin 5p bonusYou can fit a 7p and a 5p bonus at the same time?
>>733580973>Faster casting is useless in nioh 3>when hell spells exists and allow you to confuse the entire battlefield in seconds
>complaining about 8 frame window for cestus when beyond infinity needs 3 and 2 frame input windowslol
>>733581143Processor: i7 9700KGPU: RTX 3080RAM: 16GB
>>733581346>Intel CPUYeah that'd do it.
>>733581271You have not used the calamity ninjutsu spells. Using the hell spells means not using the summons, the hardest fights are single target anyways and the summons are far superior
>>733578902No, way better
>>733581413I am planning on upgrading my mobo and getting an AMD oneBut the one I have still exceeds the rec on steam
>>733578853>parry>3 light attacks from mid stanceis this really a good punish for 1kat, or is this guy prolonging the fight to flex?
>>733581346Yeah I can see the 9700k being a problem8 cores/8 threads in a game that rapes 16 threads is joeveryour only option is to compile nioh3fix and nerf LODs to the ground to cope at this point or just buy a new cpu
I arrived at NG+ where do I get my "free" yasanaki?
>best boss theme>so far shared between an old hag with snakes and a black sludge bosscriminal
>>733579861Benzaiten is underwhelming and you're giving up item cancelling, on Samurai to be specific, by taking versatility. That might not be relevant to you at all, but you can still take versatility while running the meta martial art setup (2pc warrior of the east, 2pc kintaro, 3pc brave demon, 7 pieces of inari/vais). Or substitute the 7 pieces with Benzaiten if you want the ki reduction. I don't think sword needs it as much as odachi and the other ki hungry weapons, going for a non-damage set I think I'd stack damage reduction while attacking instead.
Just got the Calamity ninjutsu and holy shit they fuck. Pumping skill is starting to pay off. Weirdly enough, I still find myself spending more time on samurai with my trusty spear even if I went for a full ninjutsu build.
>>733578853Sad and hilarious. The description is what gets me>I'm a huge fan of this particular fight in Nioh 3. I think its the best human-type fight I've encountered so far (I think I'm near the end), and so I no-lifed it for a bit trying to get a perfect run.
>>733581585He is just not a very creative player
i give upi swapped the inputs for guard and ki pulse and now i literally can't even kill a skeleton warrior properly without my muscle memory fucking me overgo on without me...
Almost done with my honorabru samurai playthrough. Can't wait to do NG+ as a dickass ninja. I reckon it's gonna be easier from what I read in these threads?
>>733581462You can use them in both slots, I run the demon cores for the AAA spirit force bonus since I'm always applying blustered and saturated. High count summons are better for TMTM though.
>>73358124710 gear slotsyou need 6 benzaiten and 4 general of ruin for 7p and 5p bonus (using -1 set req bonus from yasakani magatama accessory)for instance:General of Ruin: Sword, Helm, Gloves, FeetBenzaiten: Main wep, ranged wep, Chest, Waist, Accessory, Accessory
>>733581674from Yoshinobu Tokugawa in Scion of the Gods crucible in Bakumatsu, just beeline it there and kill him and you get one yasakani of each, you can save scum to get the one you want, or take whatever you get then throw it into sudama blessing boost and pray you get what you want sooner or later
>>733581981This isn't Nioh 2, but feathers still go brrrrr
>>733582203Oh no, not the fish.
Getting tired of trophy farming so thinking about doing the final crucible. Will I be forced into NG+ when I kill the final boss, or can I go back and clean up after?
>>733582294afraid so
>>733582131I see, such wondrous accessories exist. It gives -1 on set req. and also has a set itself? Kinda crazy.
>>733579432Gimme!
Finally killed one of these fagsIt wasn't that hard, honestly
>>733582331You are not forced into NG+. You can go into NG+ and even go back to NG.NG+ is more like a new difficulty that you can select at any time and progress through while always having all the content you have already done in your first playthrough available to you at any time,
>>733582359ye something like this
>>733582506but why are you nude?
can someone recommend me the most easymode build for starting way of the strong in the first game
>>733582537cause i'm a degenerate coomer anon, god made me this way
>>733582538way of the strong is a victory march, it's piss easy and doesn't require a particular build
>>733582538>>733582586sry nvm, you said first game, i was thinking Nioh 2 for some reason
>asshole miniboss runs to the edge where there's lava and takes forever to budge>go to him instead and kill him >all his loot falls in the lavaT-thanks I guess, I didn't want it anyway..
>>733582538>erm what builds in the second difficultybruh>>733582650its the same exact shit
where the fuck do you get these?I'm using a mod that unlocked all the transmog shit and lets you use samurai armor as ninja and vice versa but I never got these legit
>>733583176gonna take a wild guess and say you get them from Minamoto no Yorimitsu
Lmao get on other clans that aren't oda you dumb shills, or else the clan system loses its purpose
wtf I love talons now
>The 5 Swords Under Heaven are all found in unique spots throughout the game and are given extra attention when you find themBASEDASEDODENTA MITSUYO IS PEAK
>>733583317she's not in nioh3inb4 this is a DLC unlock you can get early due to mod
>>733583004yeah everything deletes me instantly while conversely taking forever to kill, I'm clearly doing something wrong which is why I'm asking for help
I feel retarded, how do you get to this chest? Where's the key to open the door? I've done literally everything else in Heian and Warring States but have yet to find the key for this.
>>733583454you literally just need to update your gear to the appropriate gear level thats it, no "build" needed
>>733583370kitty cat can't do shit
>>733583641oh yea I forgot also, nioh 1's defense system actually doesn't work well the higher the difficulty so I like using the wind element or the gear effect that nullifies enemy weapons
>>733583641but the missions say they're level 180 and I'm at 130, am I supposed to grind somewhere in the first difficulty before starting it?
>we left this for the combat in nioh 3they could have made the perfect game if they had just implemented more of what they got right with rotr
>asssassinate skill takes me so out of the experience I just fucken disabled that shitgoddamn, fuck that piss vomit blade
>>733583462progress story, you need a guardian spirit skill to get up to that plateu, there's a few places like that where you're supposed to come back and get shit later
I haven't played nioh 3 yet but I'm not sure about the parryingParrying in 1 & 2 felt like a useful tool but not your goto, but now it seems like parrying is useful pretty much all the timeApparently it even regenerates ki - surely that's too much?
>>733583819yeah i'm not a fan of that blade tbqh
>>733583782just attack the weakest enemy you can find till you can get all the gear you need at the moment or summon revenants
>>733583902alright, thank you
>Guhin is the one of the first guardian spirits you get>Also the best for Samurai and nothing even comes closeWhat were they thinking?
>>733583971Your Kongojishi enabling -90% damage taken when attacking?
>>733584025I don't get hit while attacking
>>733583971The game desperately needs a third guardian input. The least they should do is allow a secondary guardian for each style, which would give you the regular guardian skill alone. Main guardian will decide the summon.
>Take off awakening to try out other skills>Remember how slow omnyo is otherwiseWhy is awakening even a mastery? No chance that I can give that up when the hell spells exists
>>733583839i know what chest he's talking about, it's not on a plateau, it's just in a house below the plateau that has a locked door that requires a key. you can get on the plateau with tengu but there is no key there either
>>733583370This is basically every ninja weapon in a nutshell. One combo that just melts shit. Tonfa is absolutely braindead
>>733584259Awakening has always been a mastery /mystic art retard. The only difference is you get it extremely early in 3 for some reason.
i did it..
>>733583839>>733584278Yeah I looked it up, apparently I missed a werewolf fucker patrolling a village that drops a key.
>>733584419Himiko really wanted Takechiyo's shogundick
>nioh 1, 2, and rotr >beat the game and ng+ on release>nioh 3>struggling to stay engaged enough to beat ngwhy
>>733584469himiko literally fucked everyone else thorough the ages
>>733578853this is the worst sekiro boss fight I've ever seen
>>733584282>This is basically every ninja weaponYou mean "this is basically every weapon," samurai is exactly the same. That's just the game
I'm gonna fuck you up, queer
>>733584504Because it's too easy
nekomata is so fucking good for ninja
>>733584749your game has sold the best the series ever has and is successful, isn't that enough for you
>>733584684but samurai rewards stance switching and using different attacks with versatility
>>733584684Nah at least in samurai you do stance swapping. Nioh 3 hasn't changed that. There are weapons like the Axe and the 1kat which has those one trick moves like spin2win and meditating sword but that's about it.Ninja is just straight spamming the same two buttons over and over
>>733584687gaped
Predict and suggest pic related guardian spirit.
>>733584504Nioh 3 has way more Ubisoft tier shit which you should ignore in ng+. You didn't need to go fetch all that shit in Nioh 1 and 2 after getting it on ng and you don't need to in 3 either. Just go through the story and worry about farming later like you did in the first two games.
>>733584840I couldn't care less about sales
>>733584749It's not just too easy 80% of the game is spent on non-gameplay shit like picking up hair from some box or corpse for the 60ths time or traveling to one of those locations>>733584840what is this non sequitur shizo babble
>>733584847>>733584848>axe>odachi>1kat>switchglaiveIf the majority of weapons have 1 button spam playstyles, it's the rule not the exception
>>733584982It definitely is too easy. But also yes, I have all the glowy bits I have to collect
>>733584889Imagine if it's some kind of a western spirit
>>733584938the difference is those games didn't just pointlessly respawn all the kodama, so if you didn't feel like pick up every single one on your first playthrough, you could just get the rest on NG+
>>733585092You don't need to do that in ng+ either. The kodama you collected don't count as more kodama on ng+, they just give items which you can also farm elsewhere. If you're bothered by them cluttering your map, you can change icons to hide those completed on other difficulties.
I hope we fight against some cool christians in the dlc. Maybe even Jesus and just call him savior from nazareth or something
>>733584889That's a pretty dope outfit for Amakusa.
Are you guys positive there's no missables? I can't get into that area right after you fight that crimson general guy a 2nd time. There's a hotspring I apparently missed there but I can't get in anymore. It's in mikatagahara
>>733585415Repeat the mission to reach it.
>>733585459Do I have to complete the mission or can I leave after getting the hot spring
>>733581284Beyond infinity isn’t hard, the timing is the same every time and equally spaced. It’ll take practice but oh well.
What control scheme completely removes the LB + stick directional commands?Cause these are awful.
>>733585575Get in the hot spring, go to the nearby statue to initiate a save and then you can exit.
>>733580850The versatility deflect/evade buff, as far as I can tell, just counts as a single martial art. Benzaiten set seems prettygodawful compared to just not taking damage or just doing more damage.
>>733585612Have you considered looking at the ones in the settings menu instead of asking here?
>>733583176>>733583317lmao no it's just random rng dropThey wanted to port the models from nioh 2 but didn't bother to port the whole set so they don't have to balance them.There are a lot of stray weapons that were from a set from Nioh 2, like you can find Nobunaga's sword randomly also.
>>733585765Is it a smithing text drop? Because I've farmed my inventory full of slop in that farming spot in the final mission multiple times and I never got those.
>Final level is a twisted version of the very first levelkino
>>733583810literally comparable to the wombo combo air juggling videos you see people doing. Except Ronin's combat is even more braindead because you're forced to deflect so much for most of the time, and builds variety are also non-existent.
>>733583420What are the locations for the ones you don't find on the bladesmith quest?
Did Nioh really need deflects? It had so many parry mechanics already.
>>733578784I'm at the second region and I've got way too many samurai/ninja points to use.Am I just gonna finish the game with like a hundred spare points
>>733586412just use them to get +1 attack nodes or something on weapons
Is mastery one per style or one total?
what is the point of the spirit veins in the eternal rift leading to nothing?
>>733584889The african had an atlas bear so maybe an extinct european animal like the European Lion.
I only use elegant weapons that are suitable for a female Takechiyo
how do you change weapon scaling
Finally finished it last night and I've been playing since the demo and then release. About 110 hours, I dunno if I'll poke around in the next difficulty right now or not. Some thoughts:Pros:>Frost Moon>Arts Proficiency>Air combat>Being able to chain martial arts after quick attacks>Elemental transformed arts are fun/flashy>It's more Nioh>The new ninja reverse-grip katana weapons are fun (both 1 and 2kat)>Lots of content>You don't have to rest at shrines to activate them as a checkpoint>Freely can respec points for anything>Guardian Spirit skills are fun and each has one that behaves more like a martial art>Living Artifact is the funnest "super" modeCons:>Lots of dropped inputs when combo'ing and also elixirs (elixirs have always been an issue in Nioh, this isn't new)>Tighter window to perform martial art "combo enders" after a quick attack (the strong after quick ones)>Story is the worst story out of any modern TN game, not just the Nioh series>Himiko isn't ugly but TN is capable of making far prettier faces and they deliberately tried to make her "realistic">Too many forced NPC companion missions when I only want to play solo>A lot of the new enemy types are just annoying like screeching bat fucks and bees>Enemy variety is fine but the game doesn't utilize it's enemy placement well, so you end up fighting a billion jailer oni>Kagetoki is a huge fag>Ninja mode is fun but it came at the cost of four returning weapons losing their stances which is questionable>Crucibles all get kind of samey and I don't like the music theme that plays during themOther thoughts:>The start of the game is highly misleading since that first area is the only part that I consider an "open field">It's sort of more like linear Nioh levels glued together but I'm glad the game wasn't too needlessly open. >I think the mission based structure of previous games allowed for stronger level design overall but 3's world was still decent
>>733578784Yes, I have won. I just finished farming the bloodedge demon for his blue soul core, he one shots me with almost every attack and I truly hate his double nigger flip (backwards then forwards) It only took 5 kills.
>>733586691Himiko looks almost exactly like her VA, she's just avg.I actually forgot about living artifact entirely and I just finished NG+ 1 hour ago, oops.
Axebros, I'm having a blast. I like how axe isn't just the unga bunga weapon now and actually got some decent skills besides mad spinner and lumber chop
>>733586181I don't know. There's a Bladesmith quest? I just keep finding them and getting hype. I think Mikazuki Munichika was in Warring States period and Odenta was in Heian.
>>733585612Use Type E or F for Nioh 2 controls. The only difference between the two is the dodge/jump configuration.
>>733586582the gear needs a + and then you do "remodel which uses forging partsyou can pick any 3 stats with equal weight unlike Nioh 2 where you just kinda replace only the highest weighted one IIRCalso it's super low priority the gain you're gonna see will mostly be negligible, this is probably not going to make much fucking difference until we have shit change to attack(stat) A on every weapon and Ultimate Stat effects and stats over 250 or some shit
>>733586979>There's a Bladesmith quest?It's required to unlock reforging.
>>733587154I see. I -never- go back to the gayass faggot tree so maybe I should.
>>733586691Himiko looks good, it's the fact she slept with fucking EVERYONE across the ages i find hilariousYeah MC is going to fuck a ton of women over his rule but compared to her body count he's likely a toddler
>>733586353human only parries never needed to exist more than ever now
>>733586691>Living Artifact is the funnest "super" modeI will never use crutch mode
>>733579552Ronin had better combat period.
>>733587326Calm down anon. It's not like she's Takechiyos love interest.
>>733587017>The only difference between the two is the dodge/jump configuration.RT also completely changesGuardian Spirits move over to RT+Y RT+XAnd you have to RT+A and RT+B to Style Shift/Burst
>cue the sound of enemy being fucking removed from the game and deleted from your hard drive
You guys said the game gets worse, so far 2nd area has been snow kino. And I'd rather help yoshitsune than ieyasu
Any switchglaive users here? how is it in 3?
>>733587326>Implying Time Traveling Takechiyo isn't knocking up a bunch of women and yokai women across the centuries, off-screenHell Rising will star all of Takechiyo's half-demon kids looking for their cut of the inheritance
Is there any reason to use wooden weapons outside of style?
>>733587703Exactly the same, but better thanks to Arts Proficiency.
>>733587593It's not that it gets worse it just kinda falls flat. Once i got past that area the game just got boring for me. I'm just breezing through the bosses at this point hoping the game isn't much longer.
>>733587703A perfection together with the fists. Frost Moon basically gives you a second layer of stance swap options on top of your native abilities, with different animations and utility. You get arc of chaos in early game, then an elemental version too. It also got a few new moves, a new hold triangle that cycles between all modes depending on how long you hold the button and a sick aerial guillotine combo.
>>733587823How good is fists? And i don't mean the fist weapons i mean actual fists.
>>733587593It fucking doesn't. Some people just hate the look of the third era but level design and encounters stay solid all throughout.The finale is insane, by far the best final mission in the trilogy.
parrysloppa here, if I like deflect in this game should I get wo long or ronin next
>>733587903I beat the veteran ninja mission by just punching and kicking as I had no weapon equipped, it was alright. No weapon equipped makes your Onmyo stronger which is why I have it like that.
>>733587931Both are parryslop, but I think RotR is slightly better than Wo Long. Neither are that great though.
>>733587870> a new hold triangle that cycles between all modes depending on how long you hold the buttonthat seems familiar to something nioh 2 already has
>>733587931Wolong is a much smoother deflect experience since most monster have animations tied to them being deflectedRonin's deflect is much MUCH more difficult than you would expect from a parryslop game, and it relies heavily on deflect since the character building aspect is very barebones. You fight only human enemies (and some dogs I guess) so it does get repetitive
guys I think there's something "off" about my kasha (and yes I went into photo mode as soon as I unlocked her sue me)
I hate it that you're limited to only fixed elemental infusions on some skills and can't just freely choose what element you want to apply.
>>733588708>water wheel>kicking anything other than water>greased lightning>shit out water instead???
>>733588223The one in 2 cycled through all modes as you attack. This one is a charge. It cycles between modes as you stand in a combat pose, the longer you charge, the stronger the attack is. On third level it's two scythe swings for fuck huge damage.
>>733588841I want Water Sword [Fire]
>>733588708This is still significantly better than the godawful elemental infusion system from 2 that was basically unusable.
>>733587931They are both fun in their own way.
>>733587593Bakumatsu is shit outside of 2 sub areas in it
this peacock nigga is not readable because of the character design
>>733586691>Too many forced NPC companion missions when I only want to play soloYou only get 1 in the main quest and 2-3 more in side quests, one of them is just one small fight, comparing to previous games this is nothing. Antique is literally the only big section where you have a follower.>A lot of the new enemy types are just annoying like screeching bat fucks and beesMy bigger issue is with returning enemies, three different blobs are back but monk got shafted, also you're a time cop, no excuse to not have more old bosses and armors in the game.>Enemy variety is fine but the game doesn't utilize it's enemy placement well, so you end up fighting a billion jailer oniThere are twice as many jailers in the world than skeletal warriors, meanwhile Yoki is more rare than Kappa and about as rare as wheelmonk. It's clear they playtested yokai with normoid test group and their placement reflect how much they struggled.>Kagetoki is a huge fagHe's fun, more human enemies should use game mechanics you can use, imagine fighting with Hide where he take your appearance but use yokai mode and burst counter against certain skills, the fact remnants can style change is a nice touch.>Ninja mode is fun but it came at the cost of four returning weapons losing their stances which is questionableExcept for Hachets and Splitstaff that both belong to Onmyo this is actually a good change, generally the issue is like always 3 good skills bound to one input while other skills are useless, that's why samurai is so good now, his weapons have so many skills it you actually have a choice.
>>733588996I liked it more that what we get in N3 when any skill I want to infuse is uninfusable or has a difertent element I want or is using left stick input.
>>733580858I did everything the same as you, the only thing that ended up helping was locking the game at 30fps. No more fps drop that stutter the game and I could up the graphics to their ultra setting. The only good thing that came out of these trial and errors was that it finally convinced me to go into my bios and set the ram as it should be.
>fight demon of pride 15 times>he does a new attackthis game is retarded i'm not having fun
>>733580373this is infinitely more fun and interesting to watch over watching the enemy spastically flail around and getting golden shower bullshit while you watch the game play itself and then do a single attack between the boss teleporting away to prepare another 16 hit combo
>>733590071it does making learning movesets harder thats for sure, especially trying to find out how to trigger it again or it if its just a rare attack
Any time I play a weapon that isn't 1kat I just roll my eyeslike seriously why does pressing 2 buttons as cestus make you instantly drop to 0 stamina? The weapon is cool as fuck but the actual design behind it is annoying
>go through whorehouse area>damn that area was sick>back to generic japanese town with demonic evil spikes for the rest of the gamethe nioh series REALLY needs to find ways to change up the areas a littlebit
>>733590589ki management is already a joke in these games
>>733590589>got raped in previous threads>crawled back for more
>>733591098Well he's right on one thing, 1kat is retarded powerful and has a selection of the highest damaging skills in the game.
>>733589376I use hatchets myself and there's nothing wrong with Kagetoki's play-style and use of summoning, it's just the hyper armor that's really annoying. He's a zoner that you want to rush down but he can then instantly give you the middle finger when trying to do so. I think he needs a more clear transition where he defects you and then give you a slight moment to react. I was looking forward to the age of antiquity since I think that's visually one of the better areas but having Himiko follow you around for that mission really brought it down. I think they should make it like SoP where you can choose to not use them but still have the dialogue play.
>>733591425beyond infinity is the single strongest skill in the game by a mile
>>733591509Must be only good on the cestus, because it's just okay on talons. Even if it did do the most damage, sword of meditation is just easier to hit in general.
AND MORE MUCH MORE THAN THISI DID IT MY WAY
>>733591716Jack-dono, I kneel.
>>7335914251kat is only like the third most powerful samurai weapon in the game. Cestus and Axe beat it in every single aspect. It's actually remarkably well balanced compared to insane shit like max stack stomp limitless or beyond infinity or axe's new spin2win and ki pulse shove.
>>733591842See I was getting similar performance between tornado edge and sword of meditation. Which ki pulse move is broken on the axe?
>>733591910Victory Rush. That thing is retarded for a ki pulse attack.
>path of the shogun kunimatsuTime to make a real build I guess. What are the go-to, low effort farming spots? Is revenant trading/farming still a thing in this one?
>>733586412You'll be able to max out around 3 weapons from each side and the samurai and ninja trees
>>733592171Revenants are going to be rocking a lot of tatenashi and kintoki in my experience.
licks
>>733580238that's what is missing from this >>733592612, the underboob
>trying out the spear>they moved and optimized inputs way better than what they did with odachi>can now launch tornado from a high stance heavy, making it your super high commitment combo if needed>can now manually assign ki pulse moves>triple threat is still bullshit broken>everything flows way better thanks to frost moon and APNice
>>733578784I only played nioh 1 a little bit but never got very far. Can I just jump into this?
>>733592320I'd expect nothing less. But in the previous games people would choose a spot to leave revenants with actual gear for others to farm. Maybe I'll go ask in the general.
>>733592980Play the other games first, faggot.
>>733592980Yes but 2 and 3 are more complex games than 1, so it may be hard to go back if you enjoy the depth of the combat and all the swapping you can do.
>>733583370>ki cost of ninja moves increased by 100%yup its dlc 1 time
>>7335915091kat can hit for over 150k with the meditation sword and is fucking simple to use, and beyond infinity cannot even do that in a full perfectly executed combo>>733591425It has one skill. ONE SKILL
Does blocking in the other games reduce your super form bar too like in this one?
>>733593272Sword of meditation is head and shoulders above others but the hold Ys for mid and low still do more damage than most other weapons.
1kat or Axe?
>>733593272>and beyond infinity cannot even do that in a full perfectly executed combonow try that with max stacks and stomp lel
>>733578853What the fuck is this cringe ass shonen dialogue KEK
>>733593492Well, what's your damage number then? He provided his.
When the fuck do you even get beyond infinity? I'm almost done with heian
>>733593272>one hit attack versus multiple strong attackssomeone provide video proof please, these katfags thinking they have everything
>>733593597I got it yesterday in bakumatsu near the end
>>733593579He did not
What kind of traits should I even be putting on armour? Damage taken sounds okay, but everything else doesn’t really sound particularly effective
>>733593706Amrita gain when (x), anything on amrita gain, etc etc. Stacking damage resist while attacking also is currently broken apparently.
>>733593706flat Ki increase is good
>>733593387Axe is definitely the chad choice here.
>>7335933871kat if you have sword of meditation
How do you make sword of meditation usable
>>733586691>Lots of contentnot really
>>733594116
>>733594116Well you hold Y, and then you hit the enemy for more than ten thousand damage. Very straightforward.
>>733593387axe if you have sword of meditation
>>733594116opressive strenght, unshakable, resolute arts, kato clan, yamatai set, kintoki set
man... I fucking hate those slug demons.
>>733594385It wasn't even the slug that killed you.
>>733594385>733594385I still don't understand how to get at their glowing underbelly.
>>733594486yes. still hate em.
>>733594385kek outfuckingspeared
>>733578853I think the video is cringe but I kind of wish more games gave you zero info and just let you playno health bar, no stam bar but proper visual queues and animations so you just natural play.
>>733580743He's just going to teleport and oneshot him. I've had at least three hosts die as I'm fading out of the loading screen because of that opener
>>733593328Yes but you can pump points into yokai tree to reduce loss while guardian
>>733580154not that anon but I unironically felt this way but in terms of ocarina of time back in the day.every third person action rpg was a ocarina of time clone to me and I had ocarina of time fatigue in like 2005 so when I saw dark souls for the first time I just thought it was a zelda clone and never properly checked it out until like 2013
>>733581346my older computer has a ryzen 7 3700x, 3070 ti, and 32gb of ram and I can play steady 120 fps at 1080pso wtf are you doing wrong?
>>733581585Definitely not. He's just playing extremely cautiously
>>733583810Just fi ished nioh 3. Was fun but mid game hiruko kicked my ass pretty bad for a while. Didn’t play ninja at all. Deflext was fun but harder than in sekiro so less satisfying for me. The sound clue in sekiro are a godsend imo.Would i like rotr? I heard it’s more parry focused than nioh but how hard is it compared to sekiro?
I always come out of Team Ninja games thinking it boils down to a simple act of can you stun the enemy before they stun lock you.
Is Jack's game the best of the NotNioh titles? Want to try one of them but I don't wanna go through all.
> Recommended level 51 > Be level 70> Still can't do itAm I really this terrible at action games?
>>733594605Man I really need to stop blocking then
>>733594937This mission was a genuine pain in the ass to clear.
>>733594937Find a mermaid soul core from the second area or buy healing elixirs.
>Tokugawa Yoshi Fish Shoes>spins and flops around across half the length of the huge arena>huge grapple with extremely high tracking and can travel almost wall-to-wall>constantly fucking hovers in the sky for half the fightWorst boss in the game and it's not even close.
>>733594862If you liked Way of the Samurai, or WotS, you'll probably enjoy RotR.
>>733594915that's why I like fighting yokai enemies the most
>get to kasha>squeal and kick my feet in delightI love that baka neko
>>733595070I miss Way of the samurai so much but i don't want to see it ruined by a shitty sequel.
>>733585612For the tools/onmyo on the d pad you mean? I did rb + lb and it worked perfectly
>>733594937I knew it would be four heavenly kings even before checking the image. That mission is such a difficulty jump.
>>733594930I only played SoP and not the others but its pretty good. However it leans hard into buildfaggotry down the line which I find regrettable. Your movesets are also simpler. Still, the interplay between managing your break gauge and soul shielding/attacking/chain cancelling is a great experience
>>733578784Dude is literally impossible.
>summon Raiju>he shits lightning all over the screen>can't see the enemy>dieI need to get better pokemon...
>>733578902youll get crashes if you dont limit the fps to 60
>>733595139In the never ever of a WOTS 5, I pray they go back to the Weapon Heat of 1-3. Not only was it the only good Durability system in all of vidya, it's an incredible system on its own merits. It is a far superior alternative to Stamina as a means to limit both your passiveness and recklessness.
>>733595369>Equip Joro-gumo and Hino-Enma>Never use anything elseWAIFUMONS, GO
>>733592936> mid stance strong attack x 3> light attck pummel finisher> flux burst into high stance swap attack> light attack + str attzck combo is that water wave spin> flux burst into mid stznce swap zttack>rince and repeat> with enough hyper armor + strong attzck give amrita + amrita gives hp + imagawa set you basically can’t dieMy strong attack buffed build melted the late game when i figured that one lmao
>>733594930Yes.It's incredibly fun, straight forward to pick up, with a ton of depth that comes from build crafting (if that's your thing) and my favourite endgame from their nioh catalog.
>>733595070Never played it. Also i hated wo long but loved sop
Cheesed this nig with ninja + spear pokes and he deserves it. Took 7 or so tries.I think I almost ki broke him once before he jumped away and regained it.I got him to phase 2 with full elixers and his phase 2 grab is almost a one shot for me. It does 1,500 of my 2k health. And that's the real problem I had besides him doing that wind AoE at his feet.Dodging his big telegraphed attacks is a no-brainer really. Fuck trying to fight him as a Nioh boss.
>>733595816I always read it as Negro Rifle.
What yokai summons are worth using?
>>733596037blooodedge demonscampuss
>>733596037Whatever is the highest level.
>>733596037Bloodedge demon is op, as well as the 3 brother demons
>>733594937It was the first portion of the game that was actually fun and not a push over, felt like playing nioh 2 again for a moment.still beat it on my 2nd try though
>>733596162>3 brother demonsyou mean the emotion ones? Pride etc?
Fightin my brother and his attacks are annoying me so om taking an extensive break
>>733596217Yeah, i’ve been playing onmyo and they’re basically a free elemental proc for easy chaos lvl 2
>>733596037I see Ibaraki and Raiju the most. Especially Raiju.
>>733596217Pride, Envy and Obsession, yes. They basically do a better version of the Hell Talismans when you put them in the Yin Slot, so you could stock up on >Demon of Envy Summon>Demon of Obsession Summon>Hellgust>Hellfire>HellstreamAnd turn the entire area around you into a shitstorm of special effects and damage.
>>733595878
>>733590589>staff in last place>glaive in C tiergtfo my thread nigger
>>733596037I wish my beloved still healed you on damage, she was robbed
>>733596037Hino Enma ScampusSudamaRajuGuitar dude
>>733580850>>733585686yeah, benzaiten deflect versatility stack is worthless. its only good for the buffed duration for stacks and reduced ki usage at high stacks. maybe we'll get another grace like how we got an upgrade inari with the nioh 2 DLC etherial graces, and we'll get one that stacks it multiple times with deflects or upgrades it or something
> Todo clan went from 5 star members to 2 star overnight.wtf happened? It didn’t even get nerfed. Why did everyone abandon it? Also why is the +5% Amrita gain clan the most populated?
>>733596902Sudama is better as a spell than a summon.
>>733597064You don't need to stay in Todo to keep using the benefits.After you get to a certain Rank and/or stay in the Clan for long enough, its buffs remain with you and you can switch to another clan to earn those as well.
>>733597114I don't really use onmyo because I prefer versatility over faster onmyo magic skill but I don't doubt it.
>>733580929They said that about Ronin...
>>733597064Because more amrita = more level? I dont play online so that was the only one interesting for me for 90% of the game, only switched it up for the final boss cuz i didnt care about xp anymore by then
>>733597224...the Rise of.
>>733585612i do not think there is a way to change the mapping for the parry moves on forward + blockstuff like opportunist, backwave/tempest, and spinning slide are locked to those inputsits dogshit, there is no reason they couldn't have been upgrades for that stance's base deflectthe deflect system is so fucking lazy and unfinished, and haphazardly stapled on to a game mode that already comes with 30 fucking counters split across 7 weapons
L2 should be freed from ranged weapons. Ranged weapons should go on a quick item tab.Instead, L2 should be used to switch active weapons. The current method has a very unreliable input.
>>733597623It's not so bad if your use to fluxing from the older games
I uninstalled about 2 hours into the snow area. I’m so fucking bored this game is dog shit. Oh hurr durr let’s go fight the same 4 enemies in another arrangement of straw huts fuck off.
Im free from this shit grind. Got bombarded by hotei and hachiman yasakanis I was gonna lose it. Now its just taking it easy for a nice ninja yasakani
>>733583810Funny how people are shitting on Nioh 3 for having human bosses with hyperarmor and making parryslop a bigger part of combat yet yearning for Rise of the Ronin, a game where every human boss had hyperarmor and parryslop was an even bigger part of combat than in Nioh 3
>>733597720>Oh hurr durr let’s go fight the same 4 enemies in another arrangement of straw hutsBased. Let's.
>>733594937no, this mission is just fuckedprevious nioh games would 100% checkpoint somewhere in it, might have been inbetween bosses or maybe just after 2nd/4th, but it would have. they've always had checkpoints for gauntlet missions
NIOH 3 SUCKS
>>733597720yea if variety and exploration is what you were expecting this isn’t the game for you. kind of sucks the game got sold as an “open world” by game journos because at its core it’s more of a layout of micro challenges and arpg elements.
>>733597938This but unironically
>>733597623remove ranged weaponry, they are literally a rpg gimmick when the combat system is more action oriented
>Mermaid is way more expensive than enhancing most other soul coresWhat a gold digger.
>>733598127I don't think they need to be removed, just revamped. Bow needs all sorts of close range multihit moves in particular.
>>733594930>>733595273>>733595669i know multiple people who've only ever played sop and no other TN games and will deepthroat that game while complaining about other TN games and i dont get iti put probably 25 hours into sop and it just has like, literally none of the sauce nioh has. it reminds me of kingdom hearts 3 where you just mash the triangle button any time you see the input for it on screen and the whole game explodes and you get a big flashy slowmo "you win" screenone button for attacks and one button for special moves feels so fucking bad its unreal. its literally missing mechanicsi had infintely more fun with wo long even though its probably not even all that dissimilar combat wise. i just wish i knew what sop fags actually liked about the game other than le funny "chaos" meme dude
>>733597201Lightning status effect is pretty good which is why i always have a Sudama in the Yin slot.
>>733598230Combat is fun, weapon variety is fun, chain cancelling is fun, the way abilities synergise with each other is fun, bosses are fun. Rifts are fun.
>>733598226I disagree, if they are so important to have a face button they should've been more integrated more seamlessly in normal combat
>>733598127if you dont like ranged weapons then you literally dont understand TN level design. ranged weapons are extremely valuable and literally always let you get rid of annoying ass ranged attacking enemies who are invariably on platforms or ledges, and its also always an instant kill with a headshot against those enemiesits also funny as fuck to pull out a bow with auto target weak point and snipe a nigga from 5 feet and watch him faceplant
>>733598434TN's level design is good enough you can actually circle around most archers and kill them before they notice you. I think it's far more fun.
Axe, odachi, sam katana, and spear all call to me.Which do I do first?
why is demon of pride's health bar so fucking big? two full yokai realm cycles, dozens of hits and he's still at like 60% hp. i'll just move on with the game and come back with a real weapon baka
>>733598226Imagine if the Ranged weapons became "melee" weapons.>Ninja gets Bow with an array of multishot skills and elemental bolts>Ninja gets Hand Cannon with a variety of cannonballs to pretend to be artillery>Samurai gets Bayonet ported from Ronin for stabbing and rifle/shotgun blasts>Samurai gets Whipblade Sabre + Revolver>Each of them have an aiming mode baked into them so you can still shoot stuff manually
I miss the more focused missions
Does anyone not bother with transmog?
>>733598537Odachi is bad and katana os OP. Maybe do odachi after your warm up with something else and katana last as a victory lap.
>>733598574He's very proud of his big health bar
>>733598586Yeah, that's what they need to do. But move the bow to samurai, Muneshige and Imagawa both were samurai.
>>733597173what the fuck you can just collect all the clan buffs? Was it like that in the previous games?
>>733598586>>Ninja gets Bow with an array of multishot skills and elemental boltsIf it was anything like monster hunter rise bow, it could work
>>733598537All of them are good. You can't go wrong.
>>733598127I've seen a post like this before and I remember calling it out but I guess I'll call it out again: Ninja Gaiden has ranged aiming weapons so no, it's not really an RPG thing. I do think they should improve ranged weapons though, like if you shoot one after a combo, you just quickly pull it out and shoot it without going into an aiming mode. Give them more combo potential instead of only using them to snipe enemies. At the very least, they should add handguns from RotR that function like this.
>>733598574He's a level 100 something boss.
>>733598421they dont have a face button, they have a trigger buttonif you just mean, "why isnt there something more important on that button and we can file it away behind some other unneeded button combo" well then the answer is because TN disagrees with you, and they think its important to keep on that triggeri've never had issues flash attacking or swapping weapons, and i cant think of anything else i'd really like on that input. maybe using it as another modifier key for more shortcut menus or something, like a second set of martial arts, but i wouldn't give up quick access to bow for it, especially if you wanted to put it in items since those are already totally full of shit if you want to bind 6 spells + 2 cores + antidote and paralactic needles + elixer.you're at nearly 4 full bars and you want to add ANOTHER item that's mandatory to keep equipped on shortcut. nah nigga
>>733598625Oh, Im already warmed up with cestus. Looking for something new.
>>733598703No. This is a good change because it ensures no single class will stay an eternal top dog so the clan wars are actually going to be varied.
>>733598834how do you know when you have the buff permanently?
>>733598703It's new.You can collect all of the clans' buffs, but you can only equip four buffs at a time at the Teahouse. Two for sam, two for Nin.
>>733598814I would say spear > odachi > axe so you can see what odachi should have been > 1kat victory lap
>>733598607there are no good coomer outfits anymore
>>733598910Because leveling them up to max is not an easy task, you need to donate like 60k glory.
>>733598969Thief's got nice legs though
How is that Shinsengumi clan buff?It doesnt give numbers that I can see.
>>733598607Sam only has two hood armors so yeah. Nin has way more but still yeah.
How do you guys farm money?
>>733599065>hoodgood*, ofc.
>>733598910You keep the buffs after donating a bit of glory and going up at least one Rank.However, the buffs get stronger with more Glory. You need to earn enough to reach Minister Rank which earns you the highest tier of the buff.
>>733599103Autosell and just play for a while.
>>733599103Why the fuck would you farm money? You accumulate retarded amounts of it just playing through the game. I can't think of a single instance where i was lacking in funds.
>>733599065>>733599126You trying to make a hood samurai?
>>733598607i'm a weirdo in that i actually fucking love samurai armor, so i'm always playing around with transmog
is there any point to that "grapple" summoning spirit spot in the eternal rift that lets you get up on the roof of the smith's house? thought it would somehow lead me to getting that chest on the top floor but as far as i can tell there's nothing to do up there except get on the roof of the adjacent building
>>733599238>I can't think of a single instance where i was lacking in funds.I dont think we played the same game.
>>733598607I do. I hate looking at mismatched clownsuits.
>go through all the major story beats of ng+>almost no jurojin or vaistavana grace gearGo figure.
>>733590589Did they really nerf Switchglaive in 3 ?
>>733599238>go to soulmatch gear up to higher levels>it costs 9 million gold to soul match one piece of gear to level 10>have to soul match 5 armor and 2 weapons for 2 styles>it costs 150 million gold to get up to high level (not even max, max would cost multiplicatively higher)jee i wonder
I'm 3kating itin RotR
>the richest of 3 protagonists, literally a shogun>consistently broke
>>733599826Unironically one of the best things you can do in rotr. 2kat gets powerful styles very fast and 1kat gets insane variety.
>>733599826I did 1kat and ox blade
>>733599883forgot his wallet in his other pants before he went time travelingno cash on him
>>733599883>Two wandering hobos>Don't have to spend money on anything except themselves>King of Nipland>Gotta pay extra fees for your subjects, no stock market nor welfare programs to manipulateIt ain't easy being the boss
>>733598214damn wtf
>>733597791Do you just murder random shit with sudama blessing or is there a better way to farm these?
>>733600016>gigachad from Wo Long>is a fucking billionaire because basic gear components sell for higher price than the gear itself>trains double cultivation with the cutest girl in the setting day and night in a hidden comfy village
>>733599883The fox mask Blacksmith should be cut down and replaced with a shogunate approve smith that doesn’t charge 1+ million for any decent upgrade. It’s bullshit
i think... wo long was better...
>>733598230>it just has like, literally none of the sauce nioh hasYou define 'sauce' as pressing a lot of buttons to engage in non-interactive wailing on target dummies and that's why you don't appreciate SoP
>>733600202Theres that one room in the final crucible with like 7 human enemies near the end and you just spam hell gust and hell fire to kill them all and pray
>>733600539Nah, nioh 3 is way better, incomparably so. Especially if we are speaking about unpatched state.But current wo long deserves a run.
>>733600539wo long is complete shit, there's nothing to it
>>733600574>non interactiveyes, all the player interaction is with the character and the total freedom you have with movesi hate fucking brick wall enemies that just fucking ignore everything i do up to and including a nuclear bomb, but neither of those are present in sop, sop enemies are similarly easy to bulldoze from what i remember99% of the combat in that game is pressing light attack 3 times and then using your ultra super move that kills everything in one hit and knocks them all down into the "please come up and tickle me into a ICBM explosion that also kills every other remaining enemy on the screen"or its one of those special tonberries and you just have to hop it uses the right move you can soul shield to do damage to it
Do the Nioh games have any good vore enemies?
Bakumatsu drags on for way too fucking long and feels like a slog you need a break from before you're even halfway through it. Get rid of half of it and give it to ancient era instead.
>>733600450Is this guy a Japanese wrestler blading?
>>733600949neppu neppu
>>733601215>ancient era >stone soldier hellnah
What's a good set for 1kat? I wanna switch over from 2kat but I've been using the dedicated 2kat armor.
>>733601215I liked Bakumatsu more than the Heian era but Antiquity still had the best vibes and I wish it was proper full area.
>>733578784no. i'm losing on purpose
>>733584889jew nailed to a stick
>>733581814He's cute and you're an obnoxious faggot.
>>733601215I do not understand why everyone hates Bakumatsu. I was sad when I found Antiquity was basically just a straight line to a dungeon and wanted more open "world", and Bakumatsu while it isnt as good as the first map is better than the snow one that had dung and water pits everywhere
>>733578853i liked okitas fight and he was one of the best fights for me in the game, i love humanoid bosses and i love 1v1s and i like the shinsengumi. suck my ass, tasteless, no skill contrarian fags.
>Nioh 2>every mission is an entirely different area>environmental variety out the ass ensuring you never get bored>enemies are themed around the environment>Nioh 3>every open world is one unchanging theme>this means the entire fucking game has 3 areas and a tiny 4th one>also jailer onis and zombies everywhere no matter what so that every area's fights are also the god damn sameOpen world is a gigantic failure and no amount of gameplay and systems improvements 3 has can make up for this, I feel zero fucking drive to go through this again in NG+ despite going several cycles deep in 1 and 2.
>>733600450When I saw this enemy for the first time I couldn't stop laughing
Anyone got a rifle build?
>>733601378The Ferryman's Hakama Slut Brigade grows.
>>733600898You aren't really describing anything in sop but that's understandable because you already admitted to not playing it
Kusarigama isn't that bad, it's my most used weapon even in NG+
>>733595369Itsumade is similar but I love seeing the screen explode
Team Ninja here, we're excited to announce that the next expansion will feature over forty new jailer oni variants! We've strategically arranged them in the new levels while also adding in a healthy amount of crucible wasps, oni-bi, dwellers, and screeching bat fucks for maximum enjoyment.
>>733602029its funny how this side game is better than a main line game directed by dmc man, how did they fuck it up that badly
>>733602029my bad, i've only played 20 hours of it, not 25either way, i really had to push through those because the game was not hooking me at all. this was mostly waiting for nioh 3 to come out so i could play a game that i actually enjoyed
>>733600539I loved all 3 nioh and sop but wo long is one of the most disgusting piece of shit i got to play ever. Didnt 3ven bother with the patches and dlc
Is Sword of Meditation superior to grappling?
>>733602209>18 hoursbro didnt even play the game and still complains about it
>>733602210What is it about Wo Long that is abhorrent compared to Nioh?
>>733602316you cannot SoM virtually anything with only a grapple window, so no
How the fuck do you actually beat the Demon of Envy's second phase, when she's surrounded by fire?I beat her but in the dumbest way possible, I just ran around the arena until she stopped doing the fire thing then hit her until she ran out of ki, then repeated the process until she died
>>733602336nioh 1, 2 and 3 are fun in the first 2 hourssame with even wo long
>>733578784Just bought Nioh 2. Anything I NEED to know?
>>733602194it really isn't
>>733602562>I just ran around the arena until she stopped doing the fire thing then hit her until she ran out of ki, then repeated the process until she diedsame
>>733578784open world/field was a mistake, missions are so much betterstill, fantastic game
>>733586493>>733584889>>733585086>>733585295what are you guys talking about? hes gonna be a JAP with power ups like MARIA did, and has the power of GOD on his side (and lose)
>>733581242based
Decided to replay through Nioh 1 and 2 before I get onto 3.Struggling with 1 because everytime I look at Ishida Mitsunari, all I see is the Norwood scale.
>>733601650unfortunately this. the abysmal use of enemies is really the worst part given how good of a roster they had access to
>>733578784I got bored.The fact that none of your gear matters and the blacksmith being useless until NG+, the fact that Samurai is the most fun class but also 20x harder than Ninja, and the open world being padded as fuck but bland as hell killed it.The boss fights were fun as hell still. The big purple guy... Nobutada? as Samurai was thrilling. But overall, this game sucks compared to Nioh 2.
>>733600949there's an oxcart demon yokai in 2 that has a grab where she eats you but then spits you back out
>>733597927>>733596214>>733594937>>733595036its not hard at all, you just need to find what your weapon allows you to fuck human KI
>>733602863i agree with this. but the going back to 2 and playing without universal deflects will be rough, it's so satisfying
Is there a way to toggle the overcoats that show up on certain chest+pant combos?
I just hit the Takasugi fight.That was a good one but it got a bit less good when he armored up.
>>733602357Not him but I wasn't impressed by Wololo, the gameplay is extremely 'directed'. It's parryslop but it's not JUST parryslop, it's parryslop where the devs were so excited about having you parry things that they made every other system in the game directly connected to the parry and then made the bosses kill themselves provided you parry the big attack that tells you to parry it right now please
>>733602894>posting ng+ footage to the guy struggling at level 70good advice faggot, why dont you just post onmyo cheese videos for him that he clearly doesnt have access too"find good ki damage" as if its some mystery what attacks are good on weapons. he's struggling with gear dumbass
>>733602562Onmyo : powerfull water projectile +’sudama thunder spell + bloodedge demon summon for wind nerf = ez chaos lvl 2 that melt her hp and ki allowing you to wipe the floor with her face
>>733603048you're not even helping your case bro I aint even using anything but raw gear
all you need is less damage taken while attackiong, kurama sword dance and severing spin to win the game
>>733602357its just an entirely different gameits literally closer to sekiro than any part of nioh. the RPG mechanics are WAAAAAY lighterthe numbers are way tighter tuned (no level 160 gear with plus values at +7)everything costs stamina, including magic and martial artschinese alchemy can get confusing if you dont remember "wood triumphs over metal because thunder effects poison more" or whatever the fuck the actual evil pentagram they have isabove all else it is fully parry slop, so if you dont like the parry slop you will hate the game. most of what i've gathered seeing these threads since launch is that people hate deflecting, so it makes sense that people didnt like the game based entirely around that mechanic.
>bird boss starts doing ground sweeps>jump them because that's how it works doesn't it<get one tappedok
>>733603190>not helping your casemy case with what? what schizophrenic argument are you having in your head?
>>733602562There's a consistency in her fire pillar patterns (four cardinal points around her that sometimes extend in a couple ways) that are best navigated by getting ahead of her.Because she's often slowly moving around, the area where she was ends up being hazardous due to lingering pillars, but if you run ahead of her and intercept her path, you have big openings in the pillars to walk right on in and slap her.
>>733581981I'm thinking aobut doing the opposite, i finished ng mostly as ninja about a week ago with 100% but I feel like I have unfinished business in the gameIt's hard to totally swap gear/strategies in ng+ i feel though, not so mcuh in finding gear of course but like you gotta make a whole strategy out of thin air with a new weapon
>>733602627Get your onmyo magic online as soon as you can.
>Long ago in a distant land I, Hiruko, a shadeshifting master of darkness unleashed an unspeakable evil, but a foolish samurai shogun wielding an amrita sword stepped forth to oppose me.>Before the final blow was struck, his magic dog tore open a portal in time and flung him into the future where my crucible is law. Now the fool seeks to return to the past and undo the future that is Hiruko.>*catchy intro*
>>733603504naw that you're just a shitter who doesnt know how the game workseven at that level he HAS all the tools he ever needs
>>733602336The classic 'gets good 50 hours in' type of game
>>733603854always fun figuring out if that's true or if it's the vidya equivalent of the stockholm syndrome
>>733603395I feel like they really missed an opportunity to have bosses with long periods of low attacks where you can use ninja air shit to float over them and deal damage. There are a couple of brief opportunities but it's underutilised, maybe because most of the content is recycled
>>733603810bro he has the tools at level 1 the issue is he sucksthe game gives you shit to make it easier that's why its called an "action RPG" jesus christ i'm surprised you have the self awareness to keep breathing while you type
>>733603363>>733602357I loved deflecting in sekiro because being aggressive doesnt prevent you from deflect. The audio clue when you fight an opponent tells you when you need to deflect, most attacks have no endlag, and the parry window is extremely generous assuming you’re not playing with the bell. It’s a deflect gzme where being aggressive is rewarded and the deflect is actually part of the gameplay loop and could arguably be considered part of your combos. The lack of stamina also go in that direction, letting you attacking / parrying / using tooks easily nonstop for maximum shinobi kino action.In wolong the attacks have so much endlag that if you’re not careful for one second, too bad, you’ll take the hit. The moment the red mark appears and the moment you actually have to parry is different from one ennemy to another, making the experience extremely random and often frustrating. Stamina decreases FAST, and the element weel makes half your build detrimental to your gamrplay. Also the game balance is all over the place with some bossses being ridiculously hard and the last 3hours of the game being ridiculously easy.
>>733603792Samurai Tak(echiyo)wa-chaa
>>733604008>In wolong the attacks have so much endlag that if you’re not careful for one second, too bad, you’ll take the hitthis is a pure skill issuethere's a shitload of faster attacks you can safely land even if you're scared that enemy is going to launch red attackthere are attacks that reposition you, there are attacks that launch you which can be used to avoid enemy attacks tooeven more so, wo long's status ailment proc staggers the boss out of any combo, so if you utilize wuxing correctly, you can gain reliable staggers even outside a spirit break
>>733604169>this is a skill issue>says how its a gameplay issueretard-kun
>>733603989you can stop pretending already and just post something that actually helps, not that you can cause you just watch some youtubers do it anyway.
>>733604008being 'aggressive' in sekiro is mindless precisely because there's no commitment to offense so you just R1 by default after every parry with no risk
Did they nerf Enki?I remember dying to Enki very often in Nioh 2 but they're so weak in Nioh 3
>>733604169>skill issueIt’s possible, i was so enraged with the game when i finished it that i sold it and never once again looked anything about it. I heard the dlc and patches make the game better but i didnt czre anymore, i didnt want to ’’git gud’’, i finished the game and didnt want to suffer more than that.
>>733604008>enemies having different attacks makes the game 'random'sigh /v/
>>733604263the yokai in general got heavily rebalanced. I almost shat my pants when I saw a Ryomen Sukuna but he was a complete pushover.
>>733604263No, you're just a better player using a stronger player character.
>>733604263Takechiyo just has a lot of bull shit that he can have before any other protag, like all the skill booksshit one of the few things hiddy and william have over takechiyo are their ammo counts.
>>733578784Why'd they suddenly decide to make axe the best weapon? Did they just get mad that no one ever used it?
>>733604263everything is weaker in nioh 3 relative to you because the MC is overpowered
>>733604263You just have muscle memory from dying to them a lot. Most if not all nioh2 enemies feel like wimps now.
>>733604008i dont remember there being all that much end lag except for martial arts, but those basically always stagger if you have the blue stamina barthe red attack timing is also different for attacks in every game its showed up in, sekiro, nioh and wo long. its not a uniform timing based on the red glow, its dependent on the actual attack>in sekiro the deflect is actually part of the loop, and part of combosthis is also true in wo long. i know the monkey miniboss enemies let you weave in a light attack on every weapon between slams and it ends up building a ton of spirit for you in addition to the deflects building spirit.>the stamina decreases FASTyou also regain stamina from attacking, its just meant to prevent you from camping in the back throwing spells for the entire fight because that's boring as fuck and really disengaged from the bossfightits the wo long equivalent to limiting items with spirit emblems, just a different solution for it (build a resource through gameplay to spend vs start with limited amount that wont fully carry you)
>>733604369I don't think the axe is the best weapon, but it was indeed underutilized in previous games and people criticized it for being clunky to use. They reworked it extremely well.
>>733604008>fromsoft game has an iWin button you can press at basically any time>TN game requires timing and precision sasuga
>>733604294speaking of finishing I can't believe I finished the whole thing with dlcs just in 54 hours. The game is just so bland and unmemorable, like the plainest white bread ever. Nioh 3 alone is already clocking in 70+ hours for me and the dlcs aren't even here yet.
>>733604392>>733604345>>733604343Takechiyo clears huhThe true shogun, a real Tokugawa, not like that Hideyoshi pretender
>>733583810Kino. There will be a spiritual successor using this combat system, trust the plan.
Takasugu is such a faggot. Always telling me where to go and just fucking off. Yoshimitsu was a bro always cooping with me.
>>733578784Didn't this game flopped?Also generals belong on /vg/, fucking trannies
>>733604420>red attack timing is different in every gameYes and no. In sekiro you can basically jump stomp red attacks at any given point, and mikiri counter is so permissive that you dont have to be frame perfect, far from it. And that’s not talking about shuriken or other tools on specifics bosses. And in nioh 3 between the ninja swap and the spirit claws you have so many timing options abailable that you can at least customize your experience depending on the situztion / ennemy. In wo long if there’s one boss that you cant deflect for the love of god, then too bad you’re fucked
>>733604791go cry about itoh wait you are
>>733604710the face that will kill christianity for daring to try to covert his people and rebelling
>>733604791>Didn't this game flopped?Aren't you brown?
>>733604571>TN vs fromsoft out of nowhereI l9oed the 3 nioh and sop, i’m only shitting on wolong, retard-kun
>>733604227>post something that actually help>warrior of the east armor has a 2 piece with +% martial arts damage on it>baby kusanagi has bonus martial arts damage and arts proficiency damage on it>kongojishi has -% damage taken while attacking>gozuki has -% damage taken while attacking>kintaro has a 2 piece bonus with -% damage taken on it>confusion is really strong and usually easy to apply with summons + onmyo or ninjutsu, something like sudama onmyo spell + enenra>steel talismans being really good and easily accessible>there are passives available later that make deflect and evade windows significantly larger (30% longer)>some weapons are considerably weaker than others, so try another if you are using them and struggling (splitstaff, ninja 1kat, cestus, samurai 2kat)last piece of advice>its an optional mission, come back later with more and better stuffthere's so fucking much you could give in terms of how to make the game easier for people who dont know the game you fucking retardfuck, i fucking hate the mouthbreathing souls community that has infested every fucking discussion board on the planet. you are the indians of video game discussion. genuinely if you own a souls game on your PC you should be fucking banned from posting
What's the deal with this area in Bakumatsu? I got here and I'm suddenly getting one-shotted.
>>733604902Loved*
>>733604957They had a refreshing soak in the spring so they're really pumped.
>>733597797nobody is yearning for that except that one weirdoRoR 'combos' rely on an instability state which happens when you parry people, literally forced parryslopWhat I want is a slow game with a weak player character which focuses heavily on the fundamentals of timing and spacing instead of meta-systems with resource bars and anime bullshit
>>733604957isn't this inside the crucible right before the boss?
>>733604813that's not a variable timing issue thats a >the timing is too tight that its overly punishingissuewhich is an understandable one. i was really frustrated for a long time playing because the basic enemies would just turn red and chunk me for 80% of my health bar at literally any point during any fight with a random mook, but you do learn to deal with them really consistently after playing for long enough
>>733604957did you ever improve your gear? they have levels you know...
>>733604710Takechiyo's gimmick is that he's some kind of a saint who can draw the powers of guardian spirits to an utmost extent and his main spirit is the guardian spirit of reincarnation itself. I legit think he's by far the most bullshit broken protag out of 3 story wise too, he will probably live just as long as Hiddy.
>>733605061I think so? I got through the rest of the crucible without too many problems. Got here with the wings spirit and suddenly what would be a minor mistake costs me my life.>>733605110I may have neglected that, but it was never really an issue. I'll look into it.
I dislike that (while using my nin1kat) my only way to break human ki while they're blocking is to do the held double thrusting strong attack. I wish there was another martial art that would do a reasonable chunk
>>733605035sorry man, we forgot that dark souls 1 was actually the greatest product fromsoft ever created and deepthroated the lobosjr's too much when they did "naked level 1 no weapons playthrough" that took 67 hours and fromsoft went>"oh, everyone wants this experience"and then made dark souls 2 and beyond
>game made by team ninja>samurai is better than ninja in every way>ninja gameplay is for bitchasses or be flattened lol
>>733605070>that's not a variable timing issue thats a>>the timing is too tight that its overly punishing>issueYeah I’ll grant you this one. And as i said once the game was over i didnt want to play for a single more second.
>>733605183use the kick after light attack its really good for ki dmgit does a lot of normal damage too
>>733605251That attack is good for ki damage too but the issue is that it starts with a light attack, so if they're already blocking it'll just deflect off them and not let you do the kick finisher
>>733605110Why would you improve your gear? 20 minutes later you get something 10 base levels higher
>>733597797>yearning for Rise of the Roninthe game didn't even get DLCs like literally every other modern TN game, and no one complainedno one is yearning for more ROTR
>>733604420spirit emblems were also a retarded idea that made people never use any specials. doesnt make wo longs idea any better
>>733605341>>733605341>>733605341>>733605341
>>733605357set bonuses are nice, especially if they help scale up to higher levels.
>>733605357Not him but i played the whole game with imagawa set cuz i liked the effects for my build
>>733605340yeah you gotta like back up and whiff the first light attack so you dont bounce off first
>>733605235i'm honestly at a point in my life where i do think difficulty sliders for specific game options are a universal benefitthere are tons of games i would really enjoy if they had less damage sponge, or maybe a longer parry window or whatever the fuck. its really weird when games give half measures like the extended deflect skill in nioh 3, but there arent really any other regular means of difficulty modulation outside of tiny changes like thatif it doesnt "fix it" for you then you just probably never really engage with the system. this is how i felt with royal guard in devil may cry. i really like the idea, i just dislike how its "le epic 1 frame super move reserved entirely for 2 fights across the whole series" and is completely and utterly forgotten outside of EXCLUSIVELY vergil fights and maybe if the game has an angelo fight in it
>>733605340what you do is whiff the light in front of their face so it doesn't bounceuse fire shurikens for delayed hitstun and they'll sit there while you do whatever you want
>>733605357i used iga ninja set the whole game
>>733605521>>733605550I didn't think of purposely whiffing the light attack, I'll try that out
>>733605357I'm keeping my full Yoshitsune set the whole game and there's nothing you can do about it
>>733605385>spirit emblems stopped people from using specialsactually the entire point of spirit emblems was to allow people to use specials, without them you cant use special moves or items :)sarcasm aside, there has to be some balance to these things, otherwise you have really aimless combat and it becomes really sloppy and morphs into some skyrim-like experience where you have heavy armor summoner close range archers that just dont make any fucking sense and have just become so divorced from the actual design documentation that the whole game is broken and shitty and loses all fun valuelimitations like stamina, or spirit emblems, or mana or whatever serve to manage this stuff as best they can
>>733602894>retard who can't readlmao
>>733601243Its an oldman that pretends to be a baby to kill people.>>733601931A very unique yokai for sure.
>>733586527I use the biggest axe/ hammer I can find
Is there any difference between the axes and the hammers?
>>733604341Ryomen's always been a pushover boss, though.
>>733606447One deals more damage, another more ki damage from what i remember.
>>733606596Really? He kicked my ass in N2. Maybe I was just bad. Never played 1
>>733586691I miss twilight missions
>>733586928I like axe but it needs more combos. Light/Strong/Strong in high stance is too good.
>fight that one talon master>the AI just keeps backpedaling and hanging backI've had this happen with some other enemies too and it's really annoying.
>>733587326To be fair, what the fuck else you gonna do if you're immortal? All there is for her is stabbing yokai in the face and fucking.
>>733587443It's not crutch mode until you get the skill that lets the super bar ignore damage drain.
>>733595350>Jump>Air slam>RepeatHuman bosses hate this one simple trick
