Zoomers will never know what it was like when fighting games was hard
Valle droppin bombs
>>733612359literally dsp level cope. grandpa is upset because his kids kids have modern technology. no one took your toy stick and rock
>>733612359>crusty skeleton boomer unc is yapping about ye olden days again
>>733612359I'll never know what they were like ever because I never gave a shit and still don't.
>>733612359I've always hated arcades>no movelist so it was trying random shit like quarter and half circles, etc. forget about shit like charge characters (hold back, forward back forward+3P)>can't figure out fatalities in mortal kombat>still think throws are the gayest thing ever thanks to sf2t
If you could block and pull off a simple string into special move back in the day, you were the top player at your local arcade.Nowadays, knowing how to get out of every situation and pulling off crazy high-execution combos is the bare minimum if you don't want to get dusted online.
The same hard old fighting games still exist, if they were really so much better the oldheads would still be playing them, but they aren't because despite salty tweeting they know they don't actually enjoy playing SF2 that much compared to newer games.
>go to an arcade>play ST against some retard who claims "he was pretty good during his youth">can't anti air>can't super>can't charge with honda>thinks that doing hands is a comboGames were harder because any player with slight understanding of how the game works was considered godlike.
>”wahh wahh i miss the days i was the only one that knew how to hadouken and won”
>>733612359god this is as insufferable as when rogan waxes poetic about the art of the jester
>>733612359Mortal Kombat still gets new games.
>>733612359>arcade erapeople had more recreational time and more spending power back then
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>>733614724In the open matte version, you can see him jump off a trampoline to do the front flip.
>>733614154What games did you play, fag?Lots of cabs had a bezel with move lists!Fucking retard.
>>733612359>DSP says this>FGC mocks him>Valle says the same thing>OH MY GOD YES SO TRUEPitiful.
these input codes fighting games had were always obnoxious
>>733621454worked on my PS3 sixaxisskill issue to anyone who couldn't
>>733612359>the games were harderNo, the players were worse and it was more casual.>>733614265Has it right, if you knew 3 combos you were the best around.
>fighting games killed by practice labnobody actually learns spacing or fundamentals because everyone spent 5000 hours learning one 25-input combo that takes of 50% of health, and are just waiting for the other player to make a mistake so they can mash out that combofighting game players today will cry about you spamming fireballs or footsies, meanwhile they know exactly one convoluted high damage combo they are trying to pull off the entire round and nothing else
>>733621517It's just anti-fun bullshit. Much prefer my abilities to not be gatekept by manuals, so that I can focus on the action instead of on having to memorise and mash in codes for standard attacks.Smash bros having standard ability mapping is much better
I wouldn't bite that
>>733621886>smash playeryeah makes sense why you hate regular fighting controls
>>733621454>>733621886>Much prefer my abilities to not be gatekept by manuals, so that I can focus on the actionYou can do just that in SF6. Problem is, you're still going to get absolutely destroyed by a remotely decent player using Classic controls because you actually don't know what you're talking about.
I went to the arcade every other day as a kid and teen, and fighting games were pretty popular but I never saw them packed unless it was a new release. The busiest I ever saw a cabinet was for Soul Calibur and Tekken 4, because the former looked amazing and everyone had Tekken 2 or 3 and Tekken 4 also looked amazing. Most of the games played were shooters or racers, and beat-em-ups were popular too but you'd never see one guy playing a beat-em-up by himself. Racers and Shooters had many loners on them. The Rhythm game crowd with DDR and Guitar Hero were huge as well.
>>733622176Meant to say>You can do just that in SF6 with Modern controls
Not just fighting games or even competition games. Before we could see leaks about the entire game a week ahead of time or data dump every secret, things were better. >Diablo 4Everyone follows the exact same build. A build thag has been engineered to be the absolute best. Back in the day, you really had to either search this out or just outright not do it. Now every single person runs the exact same build. Every game is like that, RE9, people are already posting everything. I remember fo4, I knew the story's twist before the game came out. Even though it wasnt that great of a story, its still a bit disappointing to know these things ahead of time. >warhammer 40kSame shit but For the table top, tons of dudes run meta lists, it isnt funMeta is ruining games, it has been optimized by a precise science and there are absolutes. >Want to run your own list? Youre getting fucking stomped. >Run your buildYoure getting stomped by some guy that saw a YouTube shortIt sucks the fun out of competitive games when 90% of everyone is doing the exact build posted on lineI think hald the fun use to be figuring out your build and playstyle, now everyone just copies number 1 on day 1
This is actually what happened to Rocket League as well. Once they added a real training mode everyone could do the super autistic shots
>>733622143>>733622176I wouldn't call myself a smash player, I just think accessible controls are better and use smash as an example. Those games are able to focus on so much more than two niggers on a flat plane racing to see who can enter the inputs fasterI haven't actively tried playing fighting games since the 90s.
ziggers wouldn't last a day in the arcadethey'd start crying and shitting themselves
>>733622192challenging another random nerd to a fight in a fighting game at the arcade was not for every turbo autist. only those with a strong constitution would try it.there's this weird static you'd feel putting a quarter down to challenge a random kid. most other popular arcade games were either cooperative (beat em ups, light gun games) or they were racing games where the action wasn't typically 1-on-1.fighting games required some balls to even get into, because you had to directly challenge someone to fight you
>>733622461>Replace all the JLFs in the candy cabs with fresh ones>constant complaints about them being "too stiff"
>>733622456>two niggers on a flat plane racing to see who can enter the inputs fasterAgain, you don't know what you're talking about, and that's not what any competent player does.
this fat washed up nigger played a game where literally just standing up at any point means your opponent can activate custom combo and unblockable you by spamming moves for 70% health minimumvalle never won anything with actual competition and is a grey haired spic who wasted his life instead of getting a wife and having children
>>733622639look out, we have an expert here>erm, ackshually you don't fight in fighting games, it's much more complex than that
>>733622702>I haven't actively tried playing fighting games since the 90s.I would rather listen to the opinion of an "expert" as you call him than yours
>>733622702>an expertNo, I'm just calling you out on your retardation, and you've just said you haven't seriously played a fighting game since the fucking 90s. It's just annoying always seeing the same arguments come up again and again.
>>733612359I recently saw a video about him. Man he was a beanstalk in his youth and he isn't wrong that it was harder and more sweatier back then but part of it was also because the scene was so small. Sucks his store got killed by covid. >>733614154Just buy one Magazine for 2USD and you get the whole fatalities list and every stupid gimmick from the game. Before the internet gaming magazines were the shit, now they are shit.
soul calibur IV was peak fightan and I will never let go of this opinionit was the perfect balance between high tier autism and casual dudebro shit
>>733622974>>733623002Fighting games haven't changed since the 90s beyond a bit of polish and the occasional gimmick feature.If they changed too much, you'd not consider it a trve fighter which is why most fans of the genre still fellate the arcade era and play games from the 90s. You're telling me I can't even dare to comment on the genre because I only played it during it's peak era of relevance.
>>733623334>Fighting games haven't changed since the 90s You haven't played them so you can't know how much they've changed. Your opinion is irrelevant
>>733623451>IT'S DIFFERENT NOW
>>733623623Yes
What's the definition of "killers"?There will always be good players no matter the era because at the end of the day tournaments are made to be won
>>733623334Fighting games haven't changed in the sense they're poorly designed as products in a general sense. Some twitterfag has recently written a document about it and lays down the reasons as to why quite well.The bottom line is, the most pressing problem with this genre is not necessarily how the games are played in a technical sense nor the mechanics themselves, but you're trying to insert yourself as a valuable voice and whinging about that one aspect nonetheless. It would be like someone still learning how to play chess and falling for early Queen rush every time and then complain about the rules. No one is going to take you seriously in that case, why should a fighting game be any different?
>>733624124That document was shit
>fighting game as a product debate comes backHoly tiresome.
>>733624253>having no worthwhile content and shit netcode is not a problemThe only thing that's tiresome is that companies are still not fucking learning
>>733624124>respond to thread topic with directly relevant complaint>"you aren't allowed to comment because I am a true fighting game fan"okay.I'm not trying insert myself as a valuable voice of the fighting game 'conversation', I don't think I need to have played 40 years and every fighting game title to be qualified enough to say that a 16 button combination being needed to execute an uppercut is tedious.>It would be like someone still learning how to play chess and falling for early Queen rush every time and then complain about the rules. It is literally nothing like this either, you insecure weirdo lmao
>>733624759>right down right button is a 16 button combo
>>733620605Yes, good players with strong achievements get more leeway with their opinions.The fuck does dsp have to his name?
>>733623817Boomers who stomped people with 10% of their playtime back in the day that can no longer do that when it's an even playing ground. The actual "killers" are the ones still winning.
>>733616430>more recreational time and more spending power back thenno they didn't. People had the same amount of time, but now we have phones and computers, so everyone just wastes half their free time browsing stupid bullshit instead of spending it on important things like video games
>>733621886>can't even do a DP motion reliablyLMAOing at ur life rn
>>733612359>when fighting games was hardEpic ESL fail
>>733624124>Some twitterfag has recently written aok? so?
>>733624759>"you aren't allowed to comment because I am a true fighting game fan"Whomst are you quoting? You are allowed to say whatever the fuck you want, retard. Just stop acting shocked when people call you out for saying retarded shit.>I don't think I need to have played 40 yearsIt took me a year or two in my late twenties to reach an intermediate level. The execution shit is by far the easiest thing to memorize.>a 16 button combination being needed to execute an uppercut is tediousThere is nothing "tedious" about it. You just suck shit on all levels, refuse to learn and blame the games for it. >It is literally nothing like this eitherIt litcherally is.
>>733621454Those aren't shit
>>733621886midwits like you should be gatekept shame capcom folded with 5 and 6 though, they added casual mode
>>733625117it means some retard on social media is still smarter than 90% of /v/ combined
>>733612359based mr street figher
>>733624431Netcode has been pretty good for at least the entire current generation of games tho and some of those games have had some pretty rough life's.Granblue has most of the things that dude was complaining about and it's still like pretty fucking nicheIf you have bad online matches nowadays please consider that your internet is the problem
>>733625163You can get pretty far with Modern controls in 6, but on the highest competitive level, 99% of players will still favor Classic because it's all about what buttons you have at your disposal, not instant reactions with one-button Supers.
>>733612359I've been playin USF4 recently and all I can say is that DBFZ feels so much better to play as a casual scrub.
>>733624759I don't play fighting games, and this is one of the funniest posts i've seen in awhile. you suck at motions, even i can do one of those fireballs. just eat shit and go play something else lmao
Traditional fighting games were harder when information wasn't as accessible and you were heavily reliant on your local / regional community.Platform fighters are harder in an era where every traditional fighter has 10 different hour-long guides for every character, MU, and mechanic.I don't make the rules, I just come up with them, write them down, and enforce them.
What boss in a fighting game did you waste all your quarters on?
>>733626154I started playing fighting games when they made ports
>>733625916But the thing is, people have to discover, study and actually put into practice what they learn. Most people play by feel and rarely ever lab no matter how good the training mode is, and that's why only a select few become top level players.I don't think I've seen any other player besides Blaz playing Sagat at a high level and using St. LP to nullify Mai's fan, then punish her recovery with forward HK. Even when you learn about highly specific tech like that, you still have to actually do it yourself, and it's never as easy as it seems.
>>733612359If you're American or a first worlder you didn't have the true arcade experience. Here in Mexico I was close to being lynched more than once and was attacked a few times, just for beating adult cholos in front of their gang
>>733626154KoF "94 Rugal, to see Team Italy ending
>>733612359Modern MK are a joke. Literal 1 button games, which highly incentivise the player to jump like a retard, and wity cheap mechanics such as combo juggles. I miss the Killer Instinct era fighters.
>>733626154Sc2 swordmaster mode :^)
>>733621454this is literally babbies first
>>733621763more like developers don't know how to address The Combo Question
>>733625163>TFW retards don't know Capcom been putting easy commands in their fighting games since the 90s.
>>733627041It's why right down right works.
>>733626154Every kof bosses pre XIII and CS unlimited Hazama.
>>733612359It's not hard to emulate. One of the last games I played in the Arcade was Mortal Kombat II. It's not like it was earth-shattering levels of hard. It's just like the game on the console itself on hard. Tekken was the same. It was just a little bit harder than normal.
>>733627092Those Unlimited bosses were fucking insane, I got pretty good at fighting the first few in CPEx, it was Arakune and then I don't remember who, but you basically couldn't ever let up on being aggressive.
>>733612359Sorry unc, smash and melee came along and they were way better fighting games than snooze fighter. Imagine being able to block with your direction + back instead of a limited shield and get away or dodge. Terrible mechanics, its no wonder only dentheads like DSP play them
>>733612359on the one hand, he's right that the info has never been easier to obtainhowever, fighting games actually benefit more from people playing together locally because you can talk to each other and get good perspectives on what about where the holes in your skills areyou can read all the data and see clips of the latest tech coming out online, but that doesn't mean you're going to get the feedback to tell you if you're applying it well
I'm okay with inputs getting simplified. I'm 34 and I can't do this shit anymore.
>>733627201phone poster and a smash pedoneed you dead
Back then you had to be part of secret cabal to know the Tech™ and only could try practicing it in real matches.Now you and every single nigger out there can lab it 24/7 or just steal game ruining knowledge or ToD combos or cool combos that lead into 6-7 way mix up from X (formerly Twatter).
>go to arcade>pick the most broken character learned through word of the mouth>broken character can take off 2/3 of opponent's health from 1 punch>so hard
>>733620605>Do something of notice and people respect what you have to sayEinstein died hating on quantum mechanics (he will be proven correct) despite experiment after experiment saying otherwise and the majority of scientist from his time still were on his side.How do you not understand the basic concept of reputation? Probably because you have none and follows even worse retards.
>>733625569Going to pretend you're not a samefag for the sake of argument. I did learn moves but I just didn't get any joy out of that, I never nolifed it and spent hours practicing inputs in training but I learned enough to experience the games at an above average level. My preferred fighting games were the more casual ones at the time like Tekken and Soulblade >go play something elseIf you'd read, you'd see that I did. Going into the 00s, that genre was spent and I think that's why it's dead today>>733626717googled "fighting game input codes" for an example. I recall the ingame menus having exhaustive scroll down lists of abilities
>>733627420Good. I'd rather play a fair game of skill rather than cheating with an unfair knowledge advantage.
>>733628165life isn't fair...
>>733625146it's kind of nice seeing how many of these characters had charge moves in their kit. funny though how the pre-existing fighters had [1]6 charges while the new fighters were [4]6
Zoomers don't give a shit about fighting games. That was basically the only competitive multiplayer option in the 90s and then the second local console multiplayer and online multiplayer became more robust, shooters and sports took over and the world never looked back.This is passive-aggressive snipping at a bunch of college age kids fucking around in Fortnite whose only thought about fighting games is the compulsive masturbation that skyrocketed Chun-Li to the top of the pornhub rankings after she was added to Fortnite.
>>733622456>Doesn't play the games>Doesn't like how they are played>Wants to tell others how they should beA tourist, lowest for of life
>>733624759>respond to thread topic with directly relevant complaintSee, the problem is that you think your complaint is relevant when it's actually just retarded. Motion controls are not what makes fighting games hard, or unapproachable. There are modern fighting games with smash like controls just like you want, and they are not magically growing the genre back to its early 90s relevance because it's just not the problem. You're allowed to not like them, but your opinion on the relevance of your distaste somehow being a failure of the genre is just objectively wrong.
>>733612359>spam tick throws>get stabbed by a screeching niggerI HECKIN LOVE THE ARCADES
>>733621763I know and you know that you suck at fighting games.
>>733628579>plays games>doesn't enjoy them>"I will not play these games">"HAH, YOU ARE NOT A TRUE FIGHTING GAME FAN. I HAVE MUCH HIGHER SKILL THAN YOU"I get that it must suck to spend 2 decades practicing only to have nobody be impressed because they moved on to other things ages ago.
>arcade games>le hardthe "hard" part of arcade fighters were various shits designed to scam you out of your penny, and since it was some cents or other low amount of coins you didn't care. Moral Kombat was famous for input reading especially vs shang tsung just to get money from you. Same with other arcades
>>733621454THIS is your example? Not some of SNKs shit?
>>733621454>>733621886You should play one of the Soul Calibur games. They have combos that are a lot less involved than most 2D fighters or Tekken.
COTW and GBVSR best modern games easily
>>733628847see:>>733628130>Tekken and SoulbladeThe most fun I had playing fighting games were probably Tekken 3 and Soulcaliber 2. Played these games a bunch with friends and family. I don't know a single person that was into SF or KoF despite them being very visible and heavily marketed. There's clearly something about fighting games which is widely offputting
fighting games are generally bad products entirely carried by character design, which admittedly are the peak of the industry
>>733612359We used to do several tourneys a day of KoF at my local arcade. Only the 1st and 2nd place got paid - 70/30 of the pot. Everyone was playing for 2nd because I always won.Haven't played a fighting game in decades, but I'm sure that you're all still the same faggots.
Zoomers like Blaz and Micky are raping oldfags right now and they would destroy these old players in their peak just the same.
>>733629205Woops didn't see that. >There's clearly something about fighting games which is widely offputtingThey're too complicated for their own good. In order to get good, you need to fight a lot of people, lean combos and combo strings along with frame times, lab out optimal combo routes and practice over and over and over again. No one has the time to do that and even if they do, no one but the most autistic people will do that.The Soul Calibur games games and Tekken succeeded by getting rid of 90% of the tedium and making success more tied to being able to properly position yourself for an attack/defense in a 3D space and using a smaller 4-5 link combo chain that's more memorable than doing some abstract joystick/button combo 2D fighters want you to do. It's why the characters have a shitton of combos in these games but you only really need to know 10 of these combos to be successful. They're also pure button inputs with simple joystick movements attached as opposed to QCF or anything you would typically see in something like Guilty Gear or Street Fighter.That's the biggest reason why even as an adult, I still like the Soul Calibur games (specifically 2, but I do enjoy all of them a lot and 6 is something i've been trying out recently) and Tekkens up to 5 DR: they have a high execution ceiling but they also are very casual friendly so literally anyone can play them.
>>733629734>learn combos and combo stringsFTFMAlso I forgot to add the large amount of single player game modes 3D fighters had. Soul Calibur had Chronicles of the Sword and Weapon Master which RPG-fighting game hybrid modes (in CotS' case an RPG-RTS-fighting game hybrid) to unlock more content, Tekken had Tekken Force and that one beat em up with Kazuya in Tekken 5. The PS2 era MK games had Konquest mode which is a lot like Weapon Master but open world. These games were made to be enjoyed casually and that's what made them great.
>>733629734>>733628847based amy enjoyer she's been making my cock hard since i got sciv on my ps3 in 2008. shame she doesn't get much to jerk off to these days
Not being able to even practice at all unless you feed quarters sounds genuinely awful.
>>733625272Every aspect of trying to play Granblue as an online multiplayer game besides the lobby is miserable. 99.9th percentile players get matched against like the bottom 15% of people who have played ranked for even 10 hours, you can't filter 600 pings, and every third fucker is either a bad wifi connection you can't see or on an ancient IGPU laptop and chugging the game to death. There are delayshit games that were a better experience.
Love how the same anons throw the exact same bait in every fightan thread and there's still dumbasses that reply to them. Never change bro.
>>733612359>zoomers wont get how TOTALLY HARDCORE I AM FOR TALKING ABOUT GAMES I'VE NEVER PLAYED this is why no one likes you fgc fags, you're all ego tripping small dogs thinking you're special just going OLD GOOD NEW BAD.Meanwhile in the real world people don't give a fuck and will just avoid your cancer community of LTGs.
Fighters are 10% having casual/competitive fun with other players bantering and examining player tendencies and 90% being by yourself in training mode for thousands and thousands of hours fucking with a training dummy and practicing shit.It's a lonely genre. People love to say how team games you can blame your teammates but that's the losers mentality. If you play with the intention of improvement you dont give a shit about your teammates performance and simply try to make the best possible decisions you can at every opportunity. you can learn a LOT from rewatching matches and examining what the enemy team does and every fight you lost or nearly died in a deadlock game or dota 2 match.There is far more depth and player psychoanalysis going on in a team based match than 1v1 fighters and they are inherently more fun to play because you can synergize tactics with good teamplay and callouts.There wad this vsav japanese player that went to some tournament and played very well and he posted a twitter video of him saying he spent basically thousands of hours practicing one specific setup. Alone.Theres top level competitors that stream themselves sitting in training mode for 5 fucking hours before playing matches for 30 mins and then ending the stream.Its a genre made for casual play, but competitively is dominated by sagely hermits... or complete losers with poor social skills.
>>733635214For once I would feel better if you said this post is chatgpt
>>733612359I mean, he does have a point. Labbing, theorycrafting and knowlege checks are a big part of fightan, but with modern social media, even completely new games get completely dissected within a few weeks, patches don't even last a day. I don't mean we should go back to the 90s and dump quarters into the machine just to figure out how you did a hadouken, but there is a healthy balance between that and now where players figure things out on their own at their own pace.
>>733612359>people complain fighting games are too easy>they're all playing the most popular shit in the genre like street fighter and tekken
>>733635214so you're telling me that fighting games are for depressed losers in dark rooms
>>733613596There is a literal world of difference between SFII and SF6. This is not DSP level coping. Older fgs and the culture around them were far more difficult. Period.
>>733621454Literally three of those characters share the same exact inputs.
We live in a world where people don't want to practice fast movement unless its simplified the fuck down. That's for shooters. The most accessible genre has to be watered down to accommodate the brain dead monkeys. What chance do you think fighting games have with such an audience like that?
>>733634083>Too close to let the fireball stay out even on whiff>Floaty jump so even if you call it out, you're going to get DP'd>Can't react to a jump in, has to be a read>Gotta try to catch them walking back if possibleIts always fascinating to me seeing a checkmate at basically full health. The only way outta this was that blocked sweep, huh?
you're all free now!
>>733624982This."I don't have time" was always an umbrella term for saying you have interest in doing other things with your spare time. Even if it was getting drunk alone.We spend it mostly doomscrolling nowadays instead of autistically perfecting combos.
>>733637369Never forgetti. Now they won't invite spooky at all. Not even tekken invited him for twt. Instead they invited markman, the retard. It just sucks man. The inner circle is disgusting and ruined fighting games l.
>>733621763What gaem? Looks like bootleg (or more like bootass (LOL)) bloody roar.
>>733612359>it's another case of unc rewriting history just to have something to shield behind to protect his fragile ego due to them norwooding like hell
>>733622679>instead of getting a wife and having childrenHe has both of those though?
>>733620605>Valle says the same thingshow quotes from DSP saying "the same thing"
>>733612359>make a game with hundreds of complicated moves>don't tell the player how to execute them so they have to spend hundreds of hours putting money into the machineThat's predatory as fuck, arcade players really were goycattle
If SF6 is fundamentally flawed, what would it take to fix it? What's the big divide between older fightans and newer ones? Haven't played Tekken since 7, and now I'm hearing 8 shat the bed. Why are newer mechanics received so poorly?
>>733612359>dumb down fighting games>people hate this and move on to other genres>???>fgc fucking diesGee, who would've seen this happening
>>733638961>If SF6 is fundamentally flawed, what would it take to fix it? The entire game would need to be remade, every problem is linked to another aspect of the gameIf you let people hit-confirm crouching medium kicks then there's no reason to use drive rushIf you give plus frames on normals then there's no reason to use drive rush eitherYou can't tweak hitboxes so that drive rush is more reliable to check because those same normals are also used in drive rushYou can't make the stages bigger to lessen corner carry because now it'll take more time to walk someone into the corner in neutral>What's the big divide between older fightans and newer ones? Old games are no longer new and new games badOld games also profit from having had patches, SFV release was utter garbage, SFV in its current state is a completely different game>Why are newer mechanics received so poorly?I think it's because they keep making mechanics that go against what people expect from the seriesLook at how V-Trigger was poorly received for locking some character's classic moves behind a resourceIt also doesn't help when said mechanic is centralizingI have not really heard many people complain about Strive's reworked Roman Cancels because they work in a really similar way as the previous games
>>733627092Meh, 97 Orochi bosses and 98 Rugal are kinda easy.
Everyone talks about one button supers and stuff but I remember Rival Schools and Bloody Roar 2 having that as an option. Am I just misremembering it? I kmow that the argument also tends to be related to specials as well
>>733613596Don't you ever compare my fucking goat Alex Valle to DSP ever again.
>>733624868He got 4th place in super turbo PS1 port back in 2005
>>733614265this. uncs are retarded as usual
>>733612359if new games are so easy and carry you so hard, why aren't you, the better player, able to defeat people who are worse than you?
I downloaded fightcade but I don't have any game on it. How do I install games to play with friends
>Wonder why we had more killers thenThey absolutely didn't lmao, this is insane cope. There used to be a handful of good NA fighting game players because to get good it was a requirement that you lived around like three arcades in Cali or Brooklyn where you could actually learn tech. Huge big fish small pond situationWe entered the information era where lil timmy could look up optimals on youtube and suddenly the majority of OG oldheads fell off a cliff. The biggest Super Turbo tournament last year was won by a 20 year old zoomer who slapped around Damdai
>>733622702I mean this very plainly and not as any kind of humble brag: doing inputs is second nature to anyone who has been playing fighting games for a few years, it's not even in the top 5 things good players are thinking about. This is like saying shooters suck because you just spend the whole time struggling to get your crosshair to point at someone
>>733643224If a game's tutorial is for brain dead people and it drags on while being extra slow I end up quitting before even completing it
>>733628521>Zoomers don't give a shit about fighting games.They have nothing in life relate to what we had back then.
>>733639245Fighting games are the most alive they have ever been since the offline era
>>733628847Ah yes, simple moves likeSummon Suffering (3697416A+G)Calamity Symphony (32147896A+K)
>>733613738>crusty skeleton boomer unc
>>733643259hey
>>733643781SF6 ≠ Fighting games
>>733627302I'm turning 39 next month and I can do these no problem, stop using your age as an excuse
>>733612359arcade boomer trannies brag about their gaming skill and spend hundreds of hours playing against npcs, meanwhile they jump into actually competitive online games and get bodied by 13 year olds 10 to 0, you boomers need to get humbled
>>733643981Player numbers and tournament entrants are peaking across the entire genre
>>733621886smash bros is not an actual competitive fighting game, it's a kids games with barely no skill involved, it's just mashing while effects and sparkles are filling your screen, pure Sakurai garbage, dude can't make one game without shit exploding, shaking all the time
>>733612359A lot of fighting games were bullshit in the arcade because of the difficulty setting being set too high or sometimes the game was just made to be cheap. Mortal Kombat(forget which one, possibly all of them) literally reads your inputs and the only way to win is to play a specific way and get through it. Other games like Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo were completely unplayable because it had a "bug" where it was on max difficulty at all times regardless of what it was set to. I remember completely avoiding some games at specific spots because the difficulty was set too high.
>>733641984Rival Schools DID set their Buring Vigor moves to the L1/L2 Buttons for the PS1, so you're right about that.
>>733612359you can still play kof2002 and third strike on fightcade rn
>>733626478This is literally one of the dumbest posts I've ever read on this site. I hope you're trolling, but if not... It's expected from a Marietroon that saves sample images.
>>733635075FGCfags are not human. I've been around these faggots since the 90s and it's just obnoxious dick shining of themselves while no one is actually "winning" anything but EVERYONE will still hold their own word as gospel.I've also noticed the more casual communities like MK, DOA, Smash, while they are definitely autistic as well aren't even close to being as subhuman when it comes to the audience that just plays the game to enjoy it. FGCniggers might honestly be the worst group of gamers in existence. You can see it from this thread alone from the people attacking this anon. >>733621886Then they ONLY play what is deemed official FGC worthy shit like >>733636760 said and bitch and whine about everything and shit on other players and wonder why their games die and no one wants to be around them.
>>733645347i have no problem with smash outside of the fact that it's players are just very annoying i say this as someone who loves snk games like KoF/Fatal Fury and had to put up with smash playing being retarded when they added terry,honestly a lot of the smaller scenes in the fgc are very cool
>>733612359Cope. Fighters are way harder now because the info is out there. If the data is opaque then even a little knowledge will make you unbeatable to most people. If everyone has access to frame data for all characters then memorizing the data becomes the skill floor to being competitive. Fighting games haven’t been more technical ever. I will concede that playing them at arcades was probably way more fun, but harder? No way
>>733616430This is true back in the day people worked from 8-2, around 30 minutes max of commute. Nowadays people work from 8:00 - 5:00 and god help you if there's too much traffic>1.5 months of vacations>high-trust society>competitive adults and teenagers>Middle-class was the average>even the poorfucks had more than enough to live their entire lives at the arcadeIt's just not the same anymore. Also the games are fucking ass, something died the moment that they removed the execution, complete linear garbage gameplay.
>>733623098It’s the game that killed the series because it was dog shit. Also no arcade only online with a shit offline. Small roster too. With horrible special guests. Hilde and Algol were broken.
>>733643259get the fightcade zip
>>733645715If that was true then the new players would be god tier in older games but that's not the case, they can only play their easy mode party games.
>>733643857You have to be pretty retarded to not even be able to push in a direction and press a button in 3-combo strings:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8xwC36Zss0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk0kVgelMyg
>>733643857>(3697416A+G)360 forward from 3>(32147896A+K)360 backwards from 3
>>733614154> there was no wiki on the second monitorreal unc shi*
>>733622679Valle is clearly slavic.
>>733613596It only took 2 posts to prove OP rightI would feel sorry for Zoomerfags if they didn't act as if they were right all the timekys retard
>>733647397entire thread is full of malding zoomers gg
>>733645980What are you even talking about? A low elo modern street fighter player would destroy a high elo player from the 00sPeople playing smash if that’s what you call party games are playing a completely different genre, and even then a low elo smash player right now would destroy a high elo player from earlier generations. Players are way way better now and that means the difficulty of the games is way harder.
still talking about baby fighter 6 KEK
>>733647461This
>>733643259https://lofi.netlify.app/post/fc2-json-pack-auto-download-roms-from-fightcade-2/
>>733637451>FGC being faggotsNo surprises there
>>733650593>>733645947thanks
>yet another FGC youtuber regretting thinking 2xko was ever gonna take off and is trying to cling to actual popular games to stay relevant
>>733624868>>733627816its just a shitpost autists.>>733638830https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhVjnmuVd94
>>733653774>they all easy mode shit>extremely linear>no discoveriesHe's completely right. DSP is also a master rank in sf6, probably the highest rank that he's ever been at a fighting game.
