Itt we try to brainstorm how to find the secret area at pic related. So far no one has found it, but we must keep looking.
It seems like this area is an alternative version of the sewers. And it is related to beating the final boss in 1 turn.
>>733618707It's time for you retards to take these "comfy" (read: "general") threads to >>>/vg/.
>>733618707>>733618727>>733618765same poster
>>733618765You do realise that the OP is intentionally doing this to create this exact same reaction right?
Would fuck Pyrophina
>>733618727
>>733618765It's time for you to kill yourself, anon.It would go on /indie/ though.
>Aquajeet being an attention whore>Save scumming LARPers going "loool you lost to a hard boss? Would never happen to me ever, I'm just too good"How do we fix Mewgenic threads, bros?
>>733618851Back off. She's taken.
Cats...
>>733618867do they have the Seuss hat in game?
>>733618880time heals all wounds
This game really does have everything. But uh, what exactly is going to happen now?
>>733618880you lost the moment you brought that person up.
>>733619010destroy the shield, do NOT kill it with piercing damage/status
>>733618880if you wiped in act 1 you are a mongoloid simple as
Is it just me or are the shadow clones on a thief fucking dogshit?
>>733619010You have to kill the amoeba before you die of exhaustion.Those mfs did it to me too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4rsifmA2NMUnga bunga version is actually catchier
>>733619058Ok save scummer, go do more furniture runs.
Man the game offered me ZERO good hunter skills.Still winning but still what a pain
Tinkerer is fun
>>733619102They are only good if you can refresh your movement/fighting multi-tile bosses
>>733619156Fleashot and Tactical Retreat are great, though.>>733619102It's so cool to double hit shit, though.
>>733619053status/pierce is like 75% of my damage because of nail flurry + serrated blades, what happens of I ignore your advice?
>>733619218It's less cool to have to either hit your team or waste your first turn though
>everyone insulting OP for using a specific picture or /vg/ pattern or whatever>no one thanking him for always making sure there are mewgenics threads upbunch of fucking ingrates
>>733619102they're great for charging up the shard and for getting a free Dybbuck fightthat's basically it because they're very finicky to use
>>733619251Wait, maybe we're talking about different things. I thought you were talking about the thing where you leave a clone that copies your basic attack.
>jester constantly does the flossthanks I hate it
>>733619228You kill the amoeba insted of the boss, and have to deal with the Brace
>>733619259There would be threads regardless, retard. But "he" (you) is making sure that he attention whores and makes them as obnoxious as possible, which, best case scenario, is only gonna annoy the jannies more and shorten the thread's lifespan.
Johnny and the coven are objectively much easier than the crater and moon, and it's because the crater boss is bullshit and the moons normal enemies are extra bullshitDon't @ me
>>733619281I am talking about that. If it's your passive and your thief starts next to a teammate your clone is gonna hit that sorry fella on your first turn, and potentially future turns if you ever end up next to the thief again
>>733618851But think of the third degree burns
>>733619314at first i thought it was lame and retarded but after seeing it a dozen times it somehow became funny as fuck
>>733619314>>733619394Kill Jester
>>733619259Nobody wants these 24/7 overlapping threads this isn't fucking /vg/
>>733618880act 1 wipers are never recovering
>>733619348I'm not saying this in a "I'm so hecking good at the game" because I have party wiped a fair amount, but I have never lost to the crater maker. He's one of the most predictable bosses in the game. The only thing you need to have special attention on in regards to him is to bring no familiars whatsoever because they make him a harder fight.The actual bitch with the crater are the trash can guys that spawn amoebas.
>>733619348you are objectively correct, bunker path is free as fuck compared to crater pathhard crater has bullshit insta-kill enemies and moon has probes and is full of enemies that are tanky as shit and only take 1 damage, plus the gravity is cancer and the mid-boss forces injuries if they even get touch your cat
>>733619348but you're right anon
>>733619102it's fun to use if you aren't retard, but idk if it's really any good. turn 1 is kinda ass depending on how your team spawns.
I know everyone is always talking about how hunter is OP, and it's true, but he especially trivializes moon.
>>733618707Three fucking times in a row this nigger has posted unmarked spoilers in the OP and avatarfagged like no tomorrow. Why this jeet not banned yet?
>>733619259You're probably ranjeet, but you always do shit like making new general threads before the old thread archives, or making a second thread when there's already an active one. Genuinely kill yourself. You have the single saddest life of anyone on earth.
>>733619319Well crisis averted, turns out backstab+ and nail flurry+ makes you scale hard enough that you can outdo even the brace
Why do enemies (non-boss) sometimes get to go twice between turns of my cats? It's always so bullshit when they can burst down one cat before I can do anything
>>733619469No, I mean dbz rock levitating guy right off the bat.
>>733619571There are no spoilers retard
>>733619348>One shots your party first turnHeh... Nothing personal kitty...
>>733619348Are people saying otherwise? I legit haven't seen anyone complain about Johnny or the Coven
>>733619440Act 1 impossible has hands man, you go with a meme team and get your balls kicked in
>>733619571Mods would rather ban the anons that point this out than ban the actual faggot sabotaging and shitposting mewgenics threads.
Kill me
>>733619571he's protected by the jannies, i have no idea whyif you avatarfagged or spammed for 1 post you'd get a 3 day ban he's probably in some sick janny tranny polycule i wouldn't be surprised if ranjeet is the sole reason ip counters are gone
>>733619259You are the most braindead retard I've ever seen.Mewgenics threads are gonna exist whether this nigger starts it or not.The problem is that he's an actual janny so he can away with pulling shit like this.
i need to stop going down the hard paths on crater, it never seems worth it
>Line shot on the moonKIIIIINOOOOOOOOO
>>733619704oh wow that item makes clerics actually useful!
>>733619704>Shall not killYou will be fine
>>733619719>Mewgenics threads are gonna exist whether this nigger starts it or notCan you prove this?
>Start fight>Enemy turn first>Enemies are immediately within attack range and slam straight into my teamIs this good game design?
No one ever quotes JurASSic's song. That's how you know it's the worst.
>>733619787maybe don't be a slow nigger.Speed isn't a dumpstat
>Vocals were Ed's idea.wasn't expecting that
>>733619780mewgenics had a healthy amount of threads before you became hellbent on inserting yourself here and becoming unhealthily obsessed with becoming the sole OP to the point where you'll post 30 minutes after another OP and try to sabotage their thread with spam and shit flinging
>>733618707As a certified musicfag, I can confidently say this the GREATEST VIDJA SOUNDTRACK OF ALL TIME
>>733619836I think it's more the vast majority of people still haven't really dug their teeth into Act 3. I sure as fuck haven't.
>>733619780Check the past few weeks you absolute fucking gorilla brained nigger. These threads were doing great even before aquajeet started attention whoring in them. Hell if you want the most notorious example, look at the thread where he started spamming for to move to his thread despite it being made later.
>"""Slow""" enemy>Has multiple turns per roundWhat did Edmund mean by this?
>>733619857I assume Edmund came up with the lyrics for Bunga's theme.
>>733619348Bunker difficulty is all RNG. You either get some cultist fucks that are easy to kill or you get an entire room of robots that fuck your ass because you have no attacks that ignore armor.
>>733619872>>733619903Stop rewriting story.There were no threads at all before he came along. At least not 80% of the time.Which is something that always made me mad. I wanted to talk about the game and yet there were no threads. This has been going on for months. At least now there are threads so maybe be more grateful.
>>733619745you didn't beat the game!!!!
>>733619787Bro your speed stat?
>>733619958good morning saar
>>733619958ranjeet forgot how to speak english you are such a disgusting disingenuous liar. you are low caste. you are going to suffer on the lowest levels of jeet hell.
I am breeding the perfect mutations into my cats, just need a few good strays to buff the stats and clear any inbreeding buildup.
Quick fellers Crater or Bunker? Second attempt at the desert rn
>>733619942The cultist mutants are my most feared enemies in the bunker.>Had a room where it's a bunch of cultist jannies that all move into radioactive sludge on their very first turnCunts>>733619958>MonthsThe game released two weeks ago, aquajeet.
>>733619958You're either blind, extremely retarded or the aquajeet himself trying to save face.There has always, ALWAYS been thread up since the game released, stop being a disingenuous motherfucker.
>>733619857The vocals are an inspired choice. Most of them are absolute bangers.
>>733620018Bunker first, no doubt.
>>733620018Bunker if you aren't feeling strong. Crater if you want to have a bad time.
>mewgenics general gets turned into /ranjeet/ generalWow I love 4channel!
>>733620017>Free reroll mutationDamn i've never seen that one wtf
>>733619958my cats would maul the fuck out of you in real life if they could
>>733619848>>733619963Which part of "enemy turn first" didn't you get?
>>733620036>>733620030>>733620014>>733620001>>733620115Can you PLEASE stop falling for obvious bait? Jesus christ
>>733619958>Stop rewriting history!>[complete fictional drivel]There have been threads since Day 1, the game was anticipated well-enough. This is easily verifiable through the archives.>This has been going on for monthsThe game hasn't even been out for a month. You're such a dishonest fucking attention whore
>>733620117What fight?
>Bunker miniboss downs my ranger in 1 turn from full health>Have no way to revive him>Eats him right before dyingI'm chewing this steak so hard right now
>>733620060that was the biggest potential risk. Video game music lyrics can and often fuck up by being cringe. Mewgenics lyrics are a bit corny but are sung so earnestly it kinda just works.
>>733620105I got that one from an event in the caves, haven't seen any rerolls from random mutations yet.
>>733619440Hello, save scummer kun. Shouldn't you be doing a furniture run now?
>>733619958>NO!! STOP USING OTHER MEWGENICS THREADS!! YOU HAVE TO USE MY THREADS ONLY!!Kill yourself dude.
I wanna unlock some stuff before heading into Act 3 now that I got Butcher. What other Class unlocks should I work other than Colarless?
>feel like playing tonight>first ? room is unavoidable deja vu for 0 int cat>don't feel like playing tonight
>>733620139>he thinks it's bait
>>733620203I haven’t seen it attempted much, definitely not at this rate.
Why is every boss gimmick>Permanent stat down>Insta-kill move>Remove (thing that's currently carrying you)
is it possible to kill hitler before he gets the chance to shoot himself?
Nigga that's nuts
>>733620178Call in steven, send that steak back to the trash farm.
>>733620459why did this indie game plagiarize happy tree friends?
>>733620459>angry rocks
>>733620494I can't, the motherfucking did it right before dying just to troll me
>>733620207That would make sense on why i haven't seen itGet some better baselines before breedingmaxx anon
>>733620459squirrel form is insanei had that plus the collar that gives a bonus attack and i just popped form then used the boost twice and cleared every room round 1 this way
>>733619102sneak up + after image is neither great nor dogshit, it's just kino
After you go through Act 3 and do the final boss, does Dr. Beanies get his lab and Stacy back? I miss her standing beside him
>>733620730He fuckin dies, and stacy too
>>733620819big rip
>>733620615I have three cats with dice eyeballs (+1 stat every turn) I'm trying to breed into my double attack group but yeah I'm throwing high stat strays at them and seperating them into male and female rooms to try and control inbreeding and dumping most of their siblings on beans.
>>733619591Speed. You can always fear, bear trap, or stun
Best roguelike of the year hands down even though the year just began
>>733620921Time to frank the shit out of your house and grind some appeal furniture, lucky 7 cats make a lot of difference
>A melee attack with increased critical hit chance. If this crits and your trinket slot is empty, gain a kidney, then inflict Bleed 1.What does a kidney do? Wiki's still a stub
>bunker theme isn't a certified bangerwell, you can't have everything
>>733621202Have you tried not being deaf?
>>733621115It's a heavy duty healing consumable, i think it's a large heal + all stats/cleanse
>>733621202t. gave up his hygiene because there was no one to smell him but him
>doctor is seethign because he didn't secure his lab and it's somehow my fault
I think I actually finished the story this time, I'm at 91% which I'm guessing are just remaining side quests and class clears.But does it go over 100%.....
>>733621550it goes to at least 3,000,000% like isaac did
Do the act 2 runs award more xp/better items. Or is it better to do act 1 runs to more safely generate good home defense cats?
>flush is great, surely they can't top this>guillotina is great, surely they can't top this>sweet delicious is great, surely they can't top this>throbbing king is great, surely they can't top this>feline invader is great, surely they can't top this>down with the devil is great, surely they can't top this>tuff is great, surely they can't top this>humanicide is great, surely they can't top thisi'm hereSURELY this time
Like 80% of mage runs I get absorb but this time I prepared with running jab (attack an in range enemy after movement) and iron head (move and get shield) and got Magic Missile (unlimited range basic attack). should be able to get 4/5 pops off a turn now from movement alone.
Has mewgenics surpassed Isaac?
>>733621634Act 1 for furnituremaxxAct highest you can for better items
>game has a character who uses your real life Steam namehaha, that's a great joke Edmund, it's not like I'm streaming and perhaps don't want my viewers knowing my Steam username or anything like that
>Pick overpowered on my bruiser>Know it's going to backfire eventually>Last hit the king>It crits for 50>Immediately one shots my hunter and her corpse.Rest in peace my shitty hunter kitty
>>733621670it tickles my autism more
>>733621678>Act 1 for furnituremaxxact 2 has rare furniture boxes tho
>>733621670i already like mewgenics more than tboi
>Me Stone>"This cat always levels up">not what it actually fucking means "ONLY this cat levels up"What a load of shit
>>733621550There are 103% save files around
>>733621837Just get the curseless tail mutation and swap it around your team after every battle
>>733621837i feel like that should've been obvious
>>733621670I would say the genre is too different to compare them directly
>>733621814But it takes longer, and you need the cats for house upgrade
>>733621641>>flush is great, surely they can't top thisAnd they never did. To me Flush is the best. I've been hearing it on a loop for the past 3 days. Already played the song 631 times.
>>733621837so you get two levels most fights? what does it mean if not only that cat?
just SHUT YOUR MOUTH pussycat
>>733621837I mean only one cat can level up at a time outside of that really rare 4 rare candy event so the wording isn't wrong
I never go to the Desert unless it's raining.
>>733621670Depends on how you mean. They share the 'several items/upgrades that combo with each other' shtick but at the core Isaac's gameplay is simple while mewgenics takes thought.So if it's by difficulty or length then for sure, I could have an Isaac run going that reached the true ends with mediocre items, somewhat quickly and not thinking too much but not in mewgenics.
>>733621670Isaac has too much bloat.
>>733618880We unironically need to go to /vst/ or /vrpg/ to create engagement in those boards
>>733622014I just bring a cleric every time. Has worded pretty well so far. Never bothered with the wet mechanic or water bottles.
>>733622037This game has bloat too
>>733622026Mewgen is easier than isaac tho
>>733621725Sorry that happened to you, BigFaggot69.
>>733621670I find isaac incredibly tediousmewgenics having the tomagotchi eugenics aspect makes it much more engaging to methe decade plus of bloat that isaac has is incomparable though. these games really benefit from a fuck ton of content
>>733622097Sure but I have 4 cats to balance out the bloat.
>>733622138maybe, but this game has too many bullshit random events
>>733622242True
>>733621654Haha we won
>>733622138Isaac is piss easy until you get to the last 2-3 tainted used toilet paper characters
>>733622340>Isaac is piss easyt. 1000 hours playtime
>>733622242Once I brought a collarless cat with me one a run and he/she fucking got blood frenzy and deja vu due to events
>>733622138Strategy game vs "Legend of Zelda type just walk and shoot at enemy" game, I find it harder than isaac, cant just zone out. Also >>733622242 is right too
>>733622402>deja vu>due to events
>>733622396Yes.
>>733622402Déjà vu? The save scum disorder?
>thunderstorm weatherOh yeah, it's orb quest time
>>733622590>>733622607Not him but I got deja vu from little steven in a desert event
>>733622320with what, homing blasts?
>>733622590sometimes you can get it from an event
>>733622652Sure you did, pal. I got herpes from a bathroom toilet seat, too.
>>733622672I thought Homing Blasts sucked because they can't all be stacked on one target.
>2 enemies start with soul link item>double effects of face and neck armorIts trivializing everything but bosses time.
this shit with Two of Spades and Dunce Cap is fucking insane. I just obliterated Zaratana in two turns by giving my fighter +30 everything
>>733622672The homing blast passive and running jab.Every time I cast Chaos teleport I use my basic attack which has unlimited range and 100% accuracy.I've 1 turned every fight on the lab apart from the first, at boss now, took hard route.>>733622768They can, but they each hit randomly. If there's only one target they'll definitely all hit them.
>>733622836I meant to ask "what happened here?" when I posted
>OVERPOWERED!!! vs the Cave's slime
>>733619348The Crater is fine. Otherwise yeah fuck the Moon I'm not picking that pack unless I get Eat Rock to cheese the boss and some ennemies
What a cutie pie!
any reason to keep my super retired cats around, other than breeding good genes?
>pick summon caterpillar because moth sounds awesome and my druid gives all familiars all stats up>even with 1 free stack none of the fights last long enough to let him evolve once>until man in the moon where he evolves as the fight endsWell it looks neat I guess. Wonder what abilities it has.
>>733622954no and theyre worth more being donated to butch/frank
>>733622723You can definitely get it from a random event
>Random event that gives 4 level upsJesus.
>If you complete a run on hard mode you unlock stuff>Nothing unlocks>But you get a cute red checkmark, teeheeEDMUND
>manhole cover with robot armsBest weapon in the game desu.
>>733622918>blows up any cats the slimes bounce adjelacent tooGG I guess
MY EYES SWEATMY TEETH ITCHMY CYBORG FINGERS ARE STARTING TO TWIIIITCH
>>733623025got it once on a doomed run
Once I beat Tina v.3, will I be left alone until I get to act 3?
>>733622989Probably not worth it but you need something like a Ranger with slop to give familiars tons of stat ups.
>>733623047LMAOOOOO
>thought the hallucinate skill would spawn copy of a unit that's on the battlefield>it spawns an enemy I haven't even seen yetThis skill is pretty cool
>>733622723>he admits to licking public toilet seats
>>733622590You actually can get it from events
>>733621670i like it more because its a strategy game
>>733623047I assure you you'll be back for more
So the Abandoned ones just outright fucking lie about their movement rangeWell thats nice
>>733619124Is the one with English vocals only heard at home, or are the people saying you can hear it if your cats have negative intelligence correct?
This spell has never come up ever. I wish I could mod this from the game to never show up. I get it is "free" but fucking ass in a game where you are winning turn 5 at most.
>>733623104At one point it spawned one of the angels from Isaac and its aoe healed and gave +1 diamond defense buff whatever it's called.
terwerty I know you're heretake a break man, you've been playing a LOT
>>733623274That shit got me yesterday on my first go through. Maybe I'm blind and something on the hover does tell you the movement but I was annoyed either way
will replacing thrill of the hunt with a different passive remove the kill bonuses? or am I free to minmax this by replacing it with something else?
can kitties inherit + spells?
>>733623297i wish i could stop getting this skill, it's basically the only thing i get on my cats
>>733623297You can use it to kill a maggot or something, but yeah, it's pretty crappy.
poor Lenny
Fellas I'm carrying the Throbbing Gristle. Do I need to have it equiped all the way? Or can I equip it right before the bossfight/wall of flesh?
>>733623297All those spells need to be canned, if you don't clear in at least 3 turns what the fuck are you doingThe only time i have used them is on a empty tile for the mages number specific cast passives
>>733619348>Doing Bunker path during the robot invasion quest>Down Johnny>The cyborg Morana that spawned resurrects him as a zombie at full health
>>733623424is it cursed
>>733620203I've found one or two that I could skip from now on but basically every song is really clever either lyrically or with the mood and genre of the song contrasting with what's going on in the game.
I never knew that you can still got kitten with disorder even with 0 health. Too bad that this is my first cat with 3 mutations.
>>733623471Nope lmao
>>733619704
>>733623297All this and the similar spells need to be at least usable for collarless is to have them start at 2 and go up from there.
>>733623297should be changed to once per turn and 1 mana cost.
>>733623503>That many tiers of Tink>Still hasn't found Rod or CancerYou poor soul.
RIGHT ON YOUR NUTSRIGHT ON YOUR NIPPLES!
>meteor +>math>one event before the boss>get blood frenzylol
it feels like this game was created to intentionally piss of PETA and im not sure how i feel about thatwould it have been made otherwise?
>>733618707>so far no one has found itSurely people are datamining the game
I got the credits rolling.That means I beat the game right?right?
just fuck my charisma up
>>733623638i'm pretty sure edmund adores catswell, if the endings of both this and isaac are anything to go by
>>733623583>Rod or CancerWhat are those? I'm still grinding Caves, waiting for Tina 3. Do you only get those in Act 2?
I just beat the game so is there actually a 100% ending or nah and if so is completion percentage locked behind doing every completion note in hard mode including collarless or just beating all the bosses in hard mode
>>733618880savescumming is a canon game mechanicif you don't use it that's a skill issue
Huffin' cat nip just ain't okay
Been canning aggressive kittens. Good strategy?
>>733623745Uranium Rod is a weapon that gives you -6 vitality and if you end a fight downed you get a random mutation so you run it on a cat with Play Dead and go to town.Cancer is a trinket that gives a random mutation at the end of every fight and -1 to two random stats.Pretty sure Rod is hard path of Alley and Cancer is in the Graveyard pool but that's going off memory.
>>733623758Thisif your elite fight takes my cats from 100-0 in the first turn because of some bullshit i'm redoing that shitIf used I will pick the bitch route, that is my punishment
>Savescum is fine, you should do itIt's just a creative workaround for an engine issue. It solves itself with the mark of shame of being permanently locked out of 1 achievement related to Steve.
>Golden lasso doesn't count for the superhero setBullshit.
>>733623876Oh that makes it much easier to get mutations then. I always went on hard path so I hope I got those items soon.
>>733623917You can't savescum in Darkest Dungeon, you get sent back to the same turn even in the middle of the fight. If he really didn't want you to savescum he could've just done that.
i dont think im smart enough to min max my breeding
This skill looks so underwhelming but jesus this might be the most OP thing in the gameIt's basically a 5 mana AOE stun that can hit large enemies multiple times.
>>733623917What's the cheevo? I have the game pirated so I have no idea what the achievements are
The gods gave me the perfect child soldier
fucking fatass
>>733620921I got dice eyes, multiple attack +1, crit boosters, trample, and several other defects running around my house and they start looking menacing after a while. Anyways and to your point, your strategy is the one I used. About to cull any sub-4s with bad skills when I get off of work. "The" was cute....then his face mutated again.
What does the N stand for?
>>733624162wait do stats determine the size of cats bodies?
I hate the mouth on these cats so fucking much, but they have great stats and awesome skills.
>>733624174What the fuck is that thing on the right
>>733624198Nyan
Is it just me or Butcher's skills are pretty underwhelming?The hook feels better than most of them
>>733621670It's a lot easier to pick up and play an Isaac run and Isaac runs are about a quarter of the length of a solid full Mewgenics run. I think both have their niches but overall I feel Mewgenics is the much more cohesive game.Danny Baranowsky's soundtrack is much more palatable and interesting to me though, I don't give a damn if it sounds like just "video game music".
Is there any way to have more than one upgraded ability on a cat laterBesides Reprogram+ giving you another + skill anwyays
>>733624204no he just ate a lot of cheese
>>733624204I don't know, but I know the Lip Filler actually makes your cat's lips bigger each time you use it.
>>733624209a minigame that unlocks cosmetic surgery options to touch up your lineages would be a welcome addition
>>733624198Nyagga
>>733624204I had a high strength cat with popeye arms, but that could be a coincidence
>>733624064Tyler is very stubborn about the pathing thing and Fenrir is a terrible boss.
>>733624209I dump cats if they look too ugly, I'm a tinkmaxxer
>>733624204there's items that you can eat and they make your cats fat like that if you eat them a lot in 1 encounter
>>733624286I got a cat called Beethoven who had Savant Syndrome, I think some strays arrive with gimmicks. Crazy coincidence if not
>>733624204The reusable cheese 'weapon' that gives you +1 con makes your cat huge if you spam it
>>733624239The spin, lifesteal and turning meat into flies are goodBut yeah butcher is mostly about passives and hook/basic atkThats what makes it one of the most consistent classes in the game
>>733621654Hey that's the name of my cat i had when growing up
>>733623371no, only the base versions
>Got the quest to go to Throbbing Domain>Haven't even gotten Guillotina 2>>733624267While that'd be nice, it'd also be against the idea of looksmaxing VS stats.>>733624294You're bigger man than I am.
>>733624214A stunner compared to his great, great, great grandpa. 12 mutations on a mage felt like I was playing the prophet or antichrist
>>733624239Chomp is really good
>>733624267Surgeon neighbor for DLC when?
>>733624294i actually do this tooi've been preserving this head part since before i got to act 2 because i think it looks very cuteone day i will make the cutest cat with it
>>733623716I mean, Guppy is, by far, the strongest transformation in Isaac, and there's a lot of Guppy stuff compared to like, what, Cricket's head?
>>733624510>t.
>>733624587Guppy had more items added later on but they nerfed the odds of finding multiple pieces in the same run specifically
>>733624064I kinda just kill the game and boot back if I lose a cat in a way that I don't like. It just means I get booted at the state right before selecting the fight node
I found the use for MageIt's being a squirrel form that also has teleport.
>>733624587Reminder that Ed has(or had?) a cat named Moxie. The only one with zero mentions in Isaac.
>>733623758>>733623910I prefer not to save scum. I'm not inherently against the idea, but so far I'm having fun not doing it.
>Anon has grown old and tired
>Fakeout credits at 37% completionDon't be silly, Edmund
>>733624653The best use for Mage is being a mana battery for Split the Atom/Giga Drain/Scattershot/negative Int fighters/etc
So in the ending, why doesn't all of existence get erased? Did Steven prevent the bomb from going off?
>>733623869Yes. They will just maim or kill your other cats anyway. Try to save one or two and make them a butcher or fighter.
>>733623917>It solves itself with the mark of shame of being permanently locked out of 1 achievement related to SteveI pirated the game, so this doesn't affect me in any way, but does this mean that if you are incredibly unlucky and get two power outages in one run, you lose out on the ability to get an achievement? Because that's fucking hilarious.At that point, if you get one power outage, then immediately go back and lose on purpose on that very combat as fast as possible.
>>733622000the only time i've gotten that event was while doing that quest. very cool.a screen still pops up for every other cat with a "can't level up" message just to rub it in
>>733624602nopethey are strong and healthy boysi just get a few strays to keep the bloodline's variety strong enough
>>733624602>put the parents in one room>One room with female kittens with desired traits>one room with male kittens with the desired traits>take any new kittens from the parents and separate them as well>if a ? Fucks his sister/brother or cousin, pipe em> put strays of the opposite genders in these rooms>make children with stats and start piping the previous generation>repeat ad nauseumYou can get the traits you want without inbreeding if you plan a bit and get rid of extra cats
>>733624827I got a random crash and got it. Oh well
i'm going to alice
my turn, my turn,my turn,my turn,my turn,
is there a way to throw quest items in the trash? I keep getting quests I've already finished
So I heard you like leeches
>>733624920Pathetic. The spawn a fly end of turn + bloodlust infinite loop was funny but he also ended up killing my whole team when we got to the Core miniboss.
>>733624064>You don't get a warning the first time you do itI got a warning the first time I did it on my only save file. The one and only first time. Did they count me skipping the tutorial as a savescum? That's the only thing I can think of.
>throbbing gristle faggotry>die to some bullshit, the builds the game let you have weren't good for X encounter, fuck you>1+ hr of your life literally down the drain, nothing gained, nothing to have learned, just get fucked sorry bud, not even so much as the zombie npc consolation prize
>90% of bosses in desert can use Charmebin gimmick xD absolutely ebin.seriously fuck these top down games that just take away your units what a shitty gimmickI'm trying to beat johnny but I don't think I have what it takes
>>733624092just have 1 room that is comfort/stimulation maxed and put cats with base 7 stats in there
>>733624914>She's asking for it
Is Mage just bad or did I have bad luck? I'm near the beginning of the game and just wiped. I had a mage that rolled nothing but passive abilities and I had no spells at all except for a weak lightning bolt. All it could do was autoattack. I basically had just 3 teammates the whole run.
>>733625093Could be worse, I actually brought a Necromancer to a Throbbing Gristle run
>>733623027do you get a cheevo at least?
>>733625130Mage's pool of spells is a bunch of overly expensive garbage that doesn't scale and a handful of good utility to make a different busted cat in your team win faster.Most of their passives suck huge dick too.
>>733625061I'm pretty sure it's that way for everyone.
>>733625130Genuinely RNG, I got a Mage that for their first turn got a cheap "randomly attack any enemy in the map three times" spell so It could get to do 20 or so dmg to a boss without any real setup or even synergies
>>733623027i unlocked a throbbing king item when i beat hard act 1
>>733625130Mages are good if you get>Magnify>Passive that gives +2 magic damage if an ally uses mana>Ability to lower mana costs OR transfer mana to an ally>Have an ally with a spammable 1-3 mana cost skill>Dump all your mana into them>Spam skill>Magnify 1/2 times>Nuke bossesIt just werks
>>733625120Johnny was easy for me. I had a tank on one side suplexing any cultist away from him, and an archer on the other side using scatter shot on two other cultusts at once
>>733625130mage is the second worst class in the game, steakmund put it early because he thought it'd be funny to troll people with itnever use it
What QoL do you want for a future non-DLC update?I would like to be able to manually name my cat team and also a way to sort cats that's not just labels
>>733625319The ability quickly know what happened overnightWhat mutation the cat getWhat the mutation doesWhich children were bornQuick run down of their stats
>you got depression
>>733625269Yeah I savescummed once and got it right. Absolute spider domination
Any way to edit the save cat? Mine looks fucking hideous, look at this lil ugly freak
>>733625319List of cats in your house with their skill icons shown
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>Fought Dybukk for the first timeThanks, I hate it. I even got spoiled on the dodging and could handle it, but his death effect combined with some other rng ruined me.
So which song is stuck in you guys' head right now?
>>733625307Mage spells are insane on crossbreeds. The reward in mages seems to be breeding down their skills to other classes. They also don't have their magic damage affected by stat drops, so even at minimal or negative stats, you can still have something to defend yourself with or run away. This imo makes them S tier fot cancer runs. Especially since if the get insanely crippled by negative stats, your other 3 cats should still be enough to get through runs.
>>733623456The exact same thing happened to me and then all the dudes he summon just beat the shit out of him
>>733625461Somewhere beyond the mooooon
>>733625130Mage can get good highroll but it's not likely. You're relying on one of the 3/4 good spells (which are simply the ones that deal damage without any elemental nonsense) to come up, and ideally a suitable passive or two.You didn't get unlucky, you just didn't get lucky.When you get a busted one they can be real busted though.
>>733625442Is the death effect an AoE or always in the cat that dealt the kill?
>>733625461NUMBER TWO IS YOUR NAME
>>733625442Truly the most jewish boss
>>733625319an advanced cat searchers with filters by>stat ranges>stat totals with a toggle between searching by BST or stats after modifiers>gender>sexuality>abilities, by name or by class (i.e. seeing all cats that have x y or z class abilities)>disorders>mutations>libido>inbreeding level
>>733625436Beginning to dawn on me why this game is so popular in SEA.
>>733625461>ALIEN CRATER>FELINE INVADER>ALIEN CRATER>FELINE INVADER>ALIEN CRATER>FELINE INVADER>ALIEN CRATER>FELINE INVADER
>>733625489I fucking hated that fight the first times I got there but now that I know how it works it's actually quite comfy
>>733625461Brush your teeth and the chaos rift song.
I got bird seed very early on and am just now realizing that's why I was so stacked with god tier items and am now currently in a death spiral and an item drought.
The only thing mages have for themselves is like doublecasting Mega Blast+ if you can get the MP for it turn one, and Surf+ with some knockback synergies
if you actually like crystaline dreams Im going to have to ask you to return to the vivziepop general where you belong
>>733619719>You are the most braindead retard I've ever seen.You mean you are.
>>733625307I can't imagine what's worse desu
Somehow my cleric spawns food by each spell
>>733625319I think everyone wants a list UI for cats that tells you their age, stats, mutations, inbreeding status etc., what room they're in, if they have attained any new mutation or injury or grew old (or died/are dead), and can be sorted by any applicable sorting mechanism with respect to and without respect to room.I really would like this.
>>733625442I get in his face with fighter and tank, and then when he possesses one of them, I range them out with mage/ranger. Only fought him twice but I haven't lost to him yet
>first time to the bunker>firestorm>decide to take the hard route anywayWhat a clusterfuck jesus christ.I cannot believe that nobody died.
Guys pleaseDoes Charge Up Passive work with Epihany Passive? Epiphany I lose all unspent Mana. Charge Up if I end turn with 0 mana my next spell is free. I'm thinking no since I'm not hitting end turn at 0 but not sure
>>733625684>Cleric with a hallowed pickup throw>Shares pickup effects with the partyLove Clerics
>>733625505It's cat that dealt the kill or else closest cat if he dies to procs.
>>733625461https://youtu.be/7zSNkXTYaLA?si=y7IVj-21Xynuf0kq&t=13
>>733625654>no udamn you sure showed him.
>>733625417nopeenjoy that steak eternally
>>733625461WORSE THAN A PIG FARMIN JEWPULL OUT MY FURSCRATCH OUT MY EYEBAAALLS
>>733625319being able to manually move my units as opposed to automatic pathing
>>733625130If you try to use mage as a pure dps you will have a bad time unless you highroll combos.Mages strength is utility and comboing with other classes. Freeze is one of the best save tools and is a guaranteed stun. Burn is a good dps when combined with any way to generate grass. They have a lot of push spells that let you abuse a thorns/knockback characterThis isnt a game where every class is just different flavors of dps.
>>733625654Brutal, anon. Just brutal.
My cats don't even look like cats :(
I just got raped by the kajius fucking teamed up and I lost my good cats because I thought it would be easy fml…
>>733625595nothing worse than losing your crutch after a few runs. I felt naked after no longer having the fish necklace+rhinestone combo for an instant rot fly swarm
>>733625461ONCE UPON A TIME TGERE WAS A BOYBORN WITH A SILVER SPOON FOR A TOYHE GREW UP NASTY AND HE GREW UP MEANHE'D STEAL A BABY'S FEET JUST TO HEAR HIM SCREAMLEARN TO SWINDLE WHAT WHAT HE NEEDEDHE'D TAKE THE EYES FROM GRANNY UNIMPEDEDA KIDNEY FROM YOUR DAD HE HAD NO CONSCIENCE COULD NEVER FEEL BAAAAD
Mods to disable the gore for cats when? I hate to see them die
>>733625867Where is that sad cat from? Looks awfully familiarI think it's an emoji from a phone app within a videogame
>>733625875I'm dreading this sniper rifle breaking ots carried me through every new zone since act 2 without breaking somehow
>>733625386Please do not post adjacent to any anons in the thread
>>733625664tinkerer
>>733625910It's from the hit indie game Undertale
>>733625956What the FUCK? Just roll v2.0 or blacksmith lol, are you a lucklet?
>>733625956>tinkerer libel
>Mini-me with Sniper + Skill Share>Double cast/1 mana grace>MechasuitThis four collarless run is easy. I should have bumped up the difficulty to hard.
This pussy wants her cream.
Why is he called "The Hammer" anyway?
>>733626037how do you get Mini-me?
>>733625386I'm still trying to figure out what the point is for the emo wig that gives you depression for a shitty heal
>>733625767is this vocaloid or is "anna-chan" using autotune?
>>733619348If you have a Familiar focused build, the Crater + Moon is effectively not an option, unless you like losing.
>>733626068It's a generic passive skill. If you take reroll on collarless cats it's pretty commo,.
>>733626127I had one last run and it was fine.Being able to feed a familiar to the moon to stop his GET BACK was very nice.
>>733626163huh, 50 hours in and i've never had it. but i also don't use collarless cats and i don't have any access to rerolls
>>733625461I shut my eyes, the mirror talks back to meI smash the glass, won’t someone rescue we
>>733624920blood madness?
>>733626127I've brought spider spam that route before and its been fine
>>733626008every class can get good builds, what decides whether they are good or not is how often they get good builds and how good they are with mediocre/bad rollstinkerer has the lowest floor and desperately needs specific abilities to even function properly
>>733626034it's not libel if it's true
Crater Maker is... weak? Did it really just damage those on its sides if attacked, and we just keep attacking it so that it only consume?
>first Throbbing Domain run>have to lose my Butcher>have a good Pooter + Moth combo, but might not last>get a pity cat>they have Confusion>King hits itself most of the fight>army of caterpillars become mothsWhat a god. I'm keeping you out of respect.
So why is Isaac's dad talking on the radio
>>733626213WORSE THAN A PIG FARMIN' JEW
>>733626257I mean, he's still alive, I don't think that it's out of the question for him to maybe straighten his life after losing Isaac to his gambling adiction and Mag being a retard
>>733626237It's basically a reading check. The only way to die to it is to completely not pay attention. >>733626240Besides when he shits his whole ass, the king doesn't actually have much AOE so minion spam can rape his phase 2 when he's just pogoing all over the place to waste your time
This game is fucking bullshit I don’t think I’ve ever dealt with as much bullshit in my life as I have with this game
>>733618935I need him
>>733626316Why would we assume he's still alive? i thought we were in post-catpocalypse
>>733621670Mewgenics is fresher for me, I have a combined 500 hrs in Isaac so I'm about done with it, very hard to say if it is actually better because I think Isaac is the de facto roguelike to play In general, this is probably the best game Edmund had a part in since Isaac, the end is nigh was pretty good but ultimately it doesn't have shit that'll tickle your autism for hours on end
Is the two gay cats fucking produces a stray with what would be their kitten's stats made up? I tried it on two of my gay all 7s and I didn't really notice a major uptick in new strays. I mean a few had like two more 7s than normal (4 instead of 2) but if I wouldn't describe that as anywhere close to actual kitten stat rates.
>>733626237Crater Maker will push your shit in if you have a familiar build or anything where you aren't doing large amounts of damage in single attacks. First time I got to him I beat it easily, second time I got fucked up because I had a bunch of little guys doing damage and it didn't mesh well with his attack manipulation gimmick
>get to a new area>hover over enemies to read what they do>the bgm is kinda catchy>suddenly meow-meow-MEOW meow-meow-MEOW meow-meow-MEOW meow-meow-MEOW to the music for like 3 minuteswhy is this game so good bros?
>>733626081issa jokeissa joke mate
>>733626350Too bad, hes not in the game.
>>733626224Tinkerer is the most fun class to me desu. My worst tinkerer has been twice as good as my worst mage and my best tinkerer has been thrice as good as my best mage. Mage is just a bottomless pit of despair.
This butcher skill is crazy. I have the necro passive where I do no damage with my leech but it goes on 3 times. Shred gives them 15 leeches.
>>733626464wish he did or a referencehe has nice thighs
>>733626536True
>try act 2 for the first time>first part is not bad>get to the bunker>fucking armors dant dont stop advancing>THE FUCKING MINIBOSS THAT TAKES ONE OF YOUR CATSHow do I deal with him? Its impossibleto get away. Should I spam traps and stuns??
>>733626603Just don't die lmao
>>733626423its made up by the developers that coded it into their game
>>733626603yes, you need position manipulation like knockback or immobilization to deal with him. if you can just move him away from the cat he's targeting he's a joke
>>733626593I find pepe better desu and Pitu even more
>>733626603High luck cats will have a better chance of escapingKnockbacks/teleports/bodyguard etc if you wanna play keepawayOr just do more damage a fighter can shit on him in three rounds or less if your build started to come together by that point
>>733626603Use a thief. Trivializes 80% of act 2
>>733626603Literally how the fuck do you pass desert no problem and yet have a problem with fucking LENNY of all bosses?
I feel I have the ultimate "win a run" item combo right now. There's any quest that is a complete pain in the ass to keep this around?
>game makes my cats sadfuck you steakmund >:(
>>733626727if your cats are slow lenny can be dangerous
>>733626428>when they meow the bassline to chumbucket kitty
>>733626727Lenny is the hardest of all the act 2 bosses.
>>733626732>image don't postedYeah, killing myself
>>733626081>Shitty healIt also gives a temp damage up to all your alies within 2 tiles each time the emo takes damage. You put that on a cat that can masochist 5 times and now they and your dps has +5 damage for a round
>>733626763I had way more consistent trouble with Crater Maker the Corpse Obliterator
>>733626753If your cats are slow then every miniboss in desert are gonna rape you. If you have no trouble with desert then you should have no problem dealing with Lenny.
Inbreeding intensifies.
>Unlocked Butcher and Psychic>Catzilla is arriving in a day so I decide to try a duo-only run for fast leveling>Both of them end up completely insanely broken; the Butcher is invincible because he generates meat for both hook and cleaver hits, gets double heals and lifesteal.>Psychic has infinite move, can cover the map in floating glass, and push shit anywhere.>Rape CatzillaAnd then every, EVERY single Butcher and Psychic since has been complete dog shit with the worst mix of skills that have zero synergy. My last three fucking trio runs have ended early because nothing was working out at all.
>>733625051>>733626214Similar loop with attack spawning leeches and then killing them + immortality from Ethereal
Am I glad he’s frozen in there and that we’re out here
psychic has been shit on the 2 runs I tried itShould I stick with it?
dr beanies more like dr benis lol
ok so I killed the third guillotinaIs there something that triggers the next home invasion so I avoid doing it and focus on breeding and collecting shit/upgrades for a while????
why is Butch so horny all the time? What the hell is his problem?
I do four-cat runs, but one would have neverstone. And that one will either be tank or cleric.
I lost to the rock monster house invader when does it show up again?
mewgenics is what I wanted a single player dogus to be
>>733626905Think about what you did to trigger guillotina, don't do that again.Don't complete any 3rd floor in act 2 and you won't get invaded
>>733626935yes.PROTIP: get a tank with the "eat rock" skill if you want to trivialize that fiight.
>>733626763absolutely not, the other miniboss of that area is far more difficult than him even
ITS FUCKING OVER
had the airhorn (enemies always ambush you) and rubber johnny charmed my butcher to take out my OP ranger before it could even moveluckily the psychic finally got her chance to show off the excess mana = scaling damage sparkles shooting at everything combohonestly the worst part of this game is the nightmare quests that I feel obligated to do because I can only hold 5 at a time
>>733626850I'm convinced the game gives you overpowered build options the first time you play a new class.
>>733626985this was confirmed to be fake because the cats are not even the same as the ones from OP pick
>>733626985This is ai.
>>733626971I had eat rock for that fight and while it was handy, stacking Bruise and letting my Hunter with scattershot go to town did most of the workI think Scattershot builds are the simplest way to shit on the big bosses
>>733626985i don't believe this is real
Anyone managed to have any infinite damage turns? Here’s one I had>tank with mini me, Infamy, and thorns>knockback +10>mini me is positioned facing boss>face between the mini me and the boss>punch him>boss bounces at mini me, he damages with thorns and bounces him back to me, repeating forever >neither take damage due to Infamy
>>733627004Nah my first thief, butcher and monk were absolute dogshit
>>733626985yay... can't wait for the jeet to start the next thread with this one...
>>733626901Psychic is good with a thorns/knockback tank, ice mage or bramble hunter.Most of their spells are about forcefully pulling shit around.
>coin build thief is apparently overpowered >never get the abilities needed to make it workBros…
Zombies are the worst and I hate all abilities that spawn them.
>>733627108thief is the ultimate blueball class
>crater maker just straight up instakills a cat oif you stand in front of itWell, shit. RIP my Necromancer. You guys were right about Shimmer - the 3 cats who got to come home didn't get a single bad mutation.
>>733626985Huge news. Thank you for your hard work, anon. Let's keep working together to unveil the secrets of that area.
>>733627146this is an edit
>>733627108>>coin build thiefI got it once and holy shit it was op>get a coin every time you attack>coin toss>crits>spam itIts fucking fun
Just had an uber druidhad touched (+3 all stats, cant heal)passives to lower song costplaying a song refreshes basic attackhad 3 mana "give familiar another turn" that also refreshes your attackhe practically solod the ice age boss and did like 200 damage to the jurassic age boss in a single round. Absolutely insane. most of the time my other guys didn't even kill a single mob, the crow killed everything
>Take the blazing thing all the way to the moon>Barely beat the fight>Can't place it on the obeliskUhhhh..?
>>733627146Holy based I have now bought all of Edmund’s games
>>733627198bricked
>>733626763those moonmen can easily kill your run with the injuries, idk
>>733627198now read what the orb description says
i have 100hrs on the game this is the objectively correct class tier list
>>733627227>inflict fear and madness on the moonmen Easy win
Game was more fun at the beginning when it was easier.After unlocking act 2 everything becomes harder including act 1.
>>733627241>archer that high
>>733627198you have to let man on the moon eat the cat with the rock. idiot.
>>733626513I had Numbing Leeches + passive that adds leeches after killing an enemies. Managed to pop 100 on Spinerette.
>>733627265just make a new save dumb faggot its not like youll lose much progress
>>733627265skissue
>>733627241Why are they all rotated? This is fucking infuriating.
>>733627241objectively wrongcleric is B tier, maybe CDruid is A tierfighter should be S tierthief should be ANecro is Ceverything else is fine
>>733627286you don't even know the name of the class
>>733627241druid to Abutcher to AFighter to Sotherwise pretty good
>>733627265Are you not getting Furniture so you can start getting better Strays and breeding more?
>>733627330>cleric is B tier, maybe Clmao no, cleric is A or S. why is this class filtering so many people?
>>733627286hunter is the best class in the game and theres no question about itliterally has pretty much all good skills. even a mediocre hunter is usable
Ignoring the RNG, is this game hard? I want to unlock all the classes, but I'm intimidated by how far in the game you need to go, and how the achievement statistics make it seem like something's bottlenecking players.
>>733627241bruh>>733627330this>>733627381Cleric is a crutch for people who can't win in 2 rounds max. Saying cleric is good, is you saying you have shitty cats.
>>733627431>Cleric is a crutch I keep reading this retarded opinion, is it just one guy trying to force a meme?
>>733627415Stop getting attached to your cats and keep doing runs.
>>733627381you simply do not need a cleric and it doesn't provide much utility beyond that. You can argue for A but it is 100% not even close to being S. I haven't used a cleric since i got druid and I'm starting hard mode stuff now.
this dudes a straight up kappa I don't know what cursed shit I'm running
my cats are all shithow do I make good cats
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>>733627465So you haven't even touched hard mode lol>it doesn't provide much utility beyond thatIt provides more utility than virtually any class in the game, between cleanse, healing, buffs. Cleric is not just good on average, it has an insane ceiling.
No class is C or below
>>733627461people relying on healing when the best strategy is to win before your opponents can do anything. This game, like xcom, is about alpha strike and winning round 1 or round 2 at the latest. Cleric does not support that. Relying on attrition is the best way to lose especially when enemies simply instant kill you/inflict injuries/destroy equipment in the later acts
>new general 30 posts before bump limit
I just run butcher and grab food to heal when only 1 enemy is left alive
>>733627297HOW was I supposed to know THAT I was PRESSING BUTTONS AAAHH
>>733627461The game rewards you for clearing content in less rounds. You also get a free small heal when you win.If you need a dedicated healer you are taking too long to win. According to the game, you are playing poorly.
>>733627198during that boss my steakmund senses started tingling and I caught it in time to restart the fight
>>733627512i am already done with act 1 hardmode, and doing act 2 right now. Cleric has zero utility. Relying on healing is useless. Cleanse is fine but I won't be taking a class simply for cleanse when i can just play better.
>>733627538>generalruh roh time to summon dedjanny
>>733627530>enemies simply instant kill you/inflict injuries/destroy equipment all of these enemies are slow as fuck and easily dealth withthis game is about building team synergies, cleric doesn't just heal, it provides insane value in the form of buffs (alpha stuff, rally, crusade, booster, multi-lick+)on top of that cleric is consistent and does so many things that even a low roll cleric will provide utility
>>733627538He does this shit every time. I don't know why he insists on using the same fucking fake area screenshots, too. Someone should do something about this guy
>>733627241Thief should absolutely be A or S rank. Druid is an easy A. Cleric is B. Fighter should also be A or S
>>733627330>>733627348druid has too many abilities that are something useless and retarded like "spend a million mana to summon a glup shitto that deals 1 damage" or "grow some flowers (also a million mana)" and some forms suck balls so you roll ass quite oftenalso i don't see what people see in fighter, butcher feels better in every way as the premiere melee class for any teami did think of placing cleric on B but it's always useful baseline and the alpha boosts, debuff clears and some of its damage abilities are insanely broken and there's so many of them that you'll rarely not roll at least 1
>>733627603I'm going to assume posts like this must be trolling
>>733627582>Dedicated healerUse Haste/Anoint/Swift Servant/Cleanse to ignore the downsides of busted shit like Lucky Swing/etc
What if I play Cleric and I still wipe...
>>733627582why do you assume it's impossible to clear stuff fast with a cleric?
>>733618707Does Strength in Numbers scale with any friendly familiar, or is it just the ones the unit who has it spawns?
>>733627701cause you can literally clear it faster without a cleric. Simple really, clerics provide zero damage and other classes provide way more utility for killing stuff
>>733627654druid is good because you get a bird for free
>>733627241I mean sure if you are just going off ideal setups mid/late game. Cleric is A/S tier on the virtue of being borderline irreplaceable early game. Necro should be bumped up too, it works well without any specific combos and can basically solo carry most of act 1/2
>>733627683FUCK OFF FATTY
>>733627529this but every class is C or below
>>733627725That's the one that gives them all stat up right? It's any ran it with a high int hunter spamming Tom-Tom's and they all got buffed.
>>733627683he's actually so handleablei admittedly did lose to him on my first ever visit to him but never again
>>733627749being useful for the first 30 minutes is not worthy of A/S lmao
>>733627737>clerics provide zero damageexcept cleric has a million buffs that make your damage dealer kill shit much faster. it probably provides more damage on average than adding another damage dealer would
>>733627683SPHERICAL
>>733627780>he's actually so handleablewhat did he mean by this...
>collarless>not S
>>733627802name them and compare them to adding another dpsanother dps or even a pure utility pick like psychic is a better choice alwaysplay without your crutch and you'll realize
>>733627749>it works well without any specific combosLord knows I've tried but I don't think I've ever had a great necro. Game just always gives me unrelated pieces.
His smug aura mocks me
>>733627616Crusade is just another movement action that costs mp and gives you no pathing control. And rally is one bonus attack that also costs mp and is outclassed by several items and abilities that give cats extra attacks. Beating down enemies before they get to you also makes cleric healing irrelevant when you have a good squad barely getting hit. This might change with elites, but that slot can be used to make battles go faster, unless cleric is your only tank. Even then there are much better tanks. Cleric is mid with a few admittedly amazing skills.
>>733627683
>>733627880Cleric is a utility pick
>>733627802Druid buffs way better than cleric. What cleric buffs are you using that are so great?
>>733627737>clerics provide zero damageWhy do so many people forget the eugenics part of Mewgenics? Breed a cat with inherited damaging abilities and make it a Cleric.
>>733627880>name them and compare them to adding another dpsrally makes your entire team attack againchosen alpha gives your main dps free extra attacksthe multi-heal and booster give your main attacker a billion extra stats, having +6 int and str on your fighter will make them kill shit very quicklycleanse will allow you to use a bunch of extremely powerful skills and negate their drawbacksit's clear you haven't even experimented with cleric at all, everything you're saying is pure dunning kruger
FUCK THEM I FUCKING HATED THIS FIGHT AND I WILL FIND A WAY TO KILL BOTH IN ANOTHER SAVEFILE!!!
>>733627906>just another movement action that costs mp and gives you no pathing controlName another movement action that moves your entire team for 3 mana>rally is one bonus attackrally+ affects an area, not just one unit>outclassed by several items and abilities that give cats extra attackschosen warrior, from the cleric, gives extra attacks
>>733628042Rally is fucking horrible and not a reason to waste a slot on a cleric. Try playing without a cleric
>>733627983That's a multiclass, not a cleric
>>733628174If it's wearing a Cleric collar, it's a Cleric. "Multi-class" is not a canon thing.
>Arguing over best classes>When the game gives at least three different ways to multiclass
>>733628149>dps is is so important!!!>what's that, a skill that makes my entire attack again for 8 mana? no this must be bad somehow
In conclusion mage is dogshit please buff.
>>733628284Mage works on my machine
>>733627880>name themall the alpha buffs, rally, booster, haste, stimulants, holy dash>and compare them to adding another dpsi unfortunately can't bring 2ranger every runjokes aside, cleric also has good damage with wrath, weapon, divine gift, open wound and rebukespecially open wound, it trivializes basically all bossesalso all the speed up/extra movement lets you clear far more efficiently
>>733628241>"Multi-class" is not a canon thing.the absolute state of clericsissies
>>733628106I don't need to move my entire team when tanks have several moves that rush, jump, and push, fighters who can jump and get bonus movement through multiple skills like berserk (2 mp move skill that DAMAGES and zoomzerk), thiefs who can get bonus movement on top of movement skills, and rangers who barely benefit at all. Crusade is not that good. I also roll 2-3 extra attacks on most of my classes through mutation breeding. You are grossly overstating how useful those abilities are. I'm not going to run a cleric for a CHANCE at a bonus attack when you get guaranteed bonuses in several other ways. Start doing runs without cleric--like other anons said it sounds like your crutch and you don't know how to use the other utility classes very well.
>>733627603Cleanse is the best ability in the game. Cleric is S-Tier in the fact that there's so many situations where Cleric makes your party virtually unkillable. >but muh round 2 killsA win is a win. Cleric makes winning easy.
>>7336282788 mana is fucking expensive, are you retarded?
Most of the Thou Shalt Not ____ passives are pretty goodThou Shalt Not Kill is an insta pick with a tank or psychic on the team since collision kills blast the enemy that survived
>>733628367>I don't need to move my entire team when tanks have several moves that rush, jump, and push, fighters who can jump and get bonus movement through multiple skills like berserkThis is utterly bizarre backwards reasoning. Using this logic, why do you need these skills when you could instead move your entire team for 3 mana? No other action is as cost efficient as moving your entire team in one action, for 3 mana.>I also roll 2-3 extra attacks on most of my classes through mutation breedingInteresting. So cleric becomes "bad" if you autistically grind for 300 hours or just get lucky with extra atatck mutations? I realize you must be trolling now
If you had to design one of the DLC classes, like, Edmund had a gun to your head and forced you to. What would you choose to put in the game?
Is Crusade really that good?I thought it sounded like garbage, letting enemies walk towards you while you kill isolated enemies sounded way safer than an automatic movement skill
>>7336284328 mana for 3 extra attacks? Doesn't seem expensive to me
>>733628483Cleric II & Cleric III
>>733628483I want a dice class like gambit
>>733628483Gunslinger since Hunter is by far the strongest ranged damage dealer
>>733628483GamblerMutagenist
>>733628502There’s situations where you really, really do not want to wait for them to come to you.
>>733628483A healer that can fight
>>733628502It's situational, but it has potential to trivialize certain encounters.
>>733628464This was in the first 15 hours of the game. Mewgenics gives you a lot more control than these threads would leave you to believe. Especially when I've gotten cancer early in a file on 2 restarts which feels like more than a coincidence. I only run cleric on sewers and some subquests before act 3. It's a crutch class that makes runs take longer through attrition
>>733628610Druid
>>733628676Druid is worse than Mage
>>733628626No you didn't get "3 extra attack mutations" on your entire lineage after playing for 15 hours, unless you got absurdly lucky
>>733625461Alone in the dark is super catchy and easy enough to play on guitar
>Take your turn earlier. Immune to Fear and Madness. Attacks against you never miss.This is considered a disorder? This is better than actual passives
>>733628707You must be incredibly attention starved to bait this hard. (You)
>>733628504Fighters can get extra attacks for 2 mana a pop and through multiple weapons skills, thief is self explanatory which cheap as fuck skills to boot. Ranger is the only one who might get legitimate use out of rally that isn't better served by something else. You are not clearing maps quicker with rally vs boosting your damage with a high int druid and just 1-2 shotting everything.
Holy fuck there’s a lot of "weathers" in this game.Also what’s a nigga got to do to get this one?
>Saving and exiting mid-battle three times in one run will spread this disorder to all of your catsAll of your cats in your adventure party or in your whole house?
Upgraded Mange is actually pretty good.
>>733628885party
>>733628802>Fighters can get extra attacks for 2 mana a popIf you mean berserker dash that's not an extra attack, it's a lower damage dash. And you need to use berserk first which costs 6 mana iirc>thief is self explanatory actually no it isn't, unless you highroll thief you're not likely to get extra attacks for freeIt's interesting how your entire post assumes one skill might be bad because other skills can do the same thing. you realize you wont roll berserk on every run with your fighter right? Having access to more ways to do something strong isn't a bad thing. Being able to berserker dash, then rally just makes you even stronger
>>733628885In your party. The disorder is lifted when you return to the house I believe.
>>7336287212 extras + move+ jump from a cancer run >>733624416>get cancer at the beginning of my first file and don't use it until the end of Act 2>holy shit this is awesome>start a new file and get it again>take a mage that makes a lot of kittens on a single run>mutations galoreAnd you can breed until you pass cancer or use the item and do it again until you roll good since you're gwtting 10+ mutations on a run. Unless I was lucking and got cancer twice in the first few hours of the file, the game gives you stuff to make inheritable bonuses.
>>733628894Looks better on a tank though. Does fighter even get any contact abilities?
>>733628971That was for a 4 collarless run, I started with Mange.
>Get your tank/butcher/fighter in position and stay totally safe>FreeDamn this shit is great
>>733628964Why would you have multiple files?
>100 cats for another roomJesus Christ Edmund...
>>733628964So you got absurdly luckyThat's one problem with metaprogression I guess, now your file is beyond OP and you'll be able to win even if you use dogshit suboptimal team comps on normal mode, probably why you have such a skewed view on things. Gaining more extra attacks is good regardless even if you're OP, but of course in your case it doesn't matter and winning with 4 collarless would be easy with those mutations.
>>733628971Melee attacks count as contact, as does any leap that lets you jump on a unit.
I have 35 stimulation and it seems that all the kittens inherit at least one skill from their parents every single time.Why are people arguing about the best class instead of what are the best skills to pass on?Why did nobody ever bring up it because guaranteed at some point?
>>733628885Party but it will be removed when they go home.If you savescum after the whole party having itSteven takes over and your party are ai controlled for the run
>>733629093People here are too stupid to understand the game mechanics past>I NEED CLERIC TO FIX MY HP AFTER SHITTY POSITIONING
>>733629054You should see me play Pokèmon when breeding is unlocked. I'll also completely nuke a roguelite file with metaprogression if I think I can do better because it's a roguelite, so I'm not attached to anything. I could lose my file today and be like "welp, I hope I get some good mutations early"
Kitten Gear...
>>733629068Using cancer isn't some secret pro gamer move, anon
>>733629156Is he good at the game? Does anyone know how far Steven can get? If he can beat Desert for me, I might do it.
>>733629093it's a bit class dependent. There's stuff that's generally always good though, like mini me
>>733629093Because metaprogression is garbage and is a crutch for people too shit to win with the base cats? Of course you can pass on strong skills and auto win everry run, that's not very interesting to discuss though
>>733629228kek
>>733629228JUST. BRING. WATER.
>>733629225I've used cancer and the shimmer event in crater tons of times, I've never seen even a single extra attack mutation.
>>733629272You sound salty as shit
>>733629228He managed to beat the desert miniboss and then everything up to the desert boss for me
>>733629093Just ignore the attention whoring nigger
>>733629319t. I don't need to worry about extra attack skills because my mutations give me 3 extra attacks on every cat
>>733629315I'll do mutiple runs with cancer cats. You get a metric fuckton of mutations after 2 or 3 runs if you breed cancer down. If you roll 20-30 mutations and get no bonuses or other nice mutations then you are absurdly unlucky
>>733629272Try using unbred cats in act 3 and see what happens
>>733629389
>>733629389Just because you don't breed or deliberately seek out mutations doesn't mean anyone is shit. Maybe you're bad at breeding and making excuses to stay bad.
>>733629315This.The craziest mutations ive had was wings that made move a leap, truesight eyes and knife hands
>>733629479Best I've seen was the extra head that gives you an extra turn first roundSadly wasn't able to pass it on
>>733629460>I rolled the best mutations multiple times in a row after one cancer run, I'm so good at the game!This is the kind of person telling you not to use good classes like cleric btw
kaijus fight next. without spoiling, how difficult it is compared to the other house defense fights?
Veganism is a disorder in the game lmao
>>733629514I ran cancer 3 times full run with a dead weight team member with negative stats. Literally mad because bad.
