Is this game good? How does it compare to other fire emblem games like three houses and awakening.Is it worth buying the Nintendo expansion pack for it?
>>733619095Dunno but I heard it's got a lot of dignity
>port it to modern console>still leave out the Japan-exclusive hard modelaziest fucking port.
Yeah, it's good OP. It has some pretty vocal haters here, but it's one of the better games in the series because it has both good gameplay and story.
>>733619542>good gameplayLol. Lmao, even
>>733619095>How does it compare to other fire emblem games like three houses and awakening.Those are about its only competition at the bottom
>>733619095Most Fire Emblem games trade off having either a 4/10 story and 9/10 gameplay, or vice versa. This one averages out at like a 7/10 on both counts, which makes it the best in the series by default.
>>733619095It is known as the last time Fire Emblem had dignity
It was the first FE I played. It was alright.
>>733619542>good story
>>733620131>PoR>7/10 gameplayWhat do you consider 4/10 gameplay so I can laugh at you?
5 things FE fandom overrates1. Path of Radiance2. SoV’s artstyle3. Kaga FEs4. GBA sprites5. Dimitri’s character arc
>>733620334Least obvious Edeltard
>>733620334>*1. Conquest Lunatic
>>733620131Thracia is a 9/10 on both
Anybody know if there's a patch or something to restore the censored content for Fates?
>>733619095If you've never played it, I'd say its worth a playthrough.It has best girl nephenee
>>733620556There you go anonhttps://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/fire-emblem-fates-uncensored-patch.2738/
>>733619095Path of radiance is my favorite fire emblem game.
>>733621017Thank you kindly anon, you guys are the best.
>>733620758Best character in the series.
>>733619095The only real downside is that the combat animations are ponderously slow for some blasted reason.
got into the series last year and played 10 games. PoR is kino and one of the games I liked the most
D I G N I T Y
>>733620212Mario Sunshine
>>733619452>Maddening mode>worth playing in the slightestShit is gaiden-tier design dude.
>>733622236I ain't no bitch.
>>733619673>>733620212What's 'bad' about PoR gameplay exactly? It has the best mechanics (Thracia minus capture plus shove) and many good maps with varied objectives and fun side objectives. Many people agree it has the ideal hub and support growth systems too.
>DUDE FOOD
>>733620758She was a Wrath Goddess in the midgameBut post-promotion, her defensive stats make it rarely activate.
fire emblem
>>733622406Don't forget she's a support black hole.Her options are like Brom and Devdan.
>>733622335I'm not going to even try to convince someone who thinks PoR has good maps. Some of the most consistently boring and samey gameplay in the series.
>>733622389
>>733622236Path of Radiance is not worth playing on anything but Maniac mode because anything less is absolutely bitch made easy. There are like 5 enemies on the endgame map on Hard mode.
I wanna FUCK cute tactician girls!
PoR put me to sleep
>>733622335>biorhythm>spam of low quality enemies that make javelins and hand axes the meta i.e. the FE7 problem all over again>tons of skills, very few worth using you actually get a scroll for>speaking of skills, nearly all occult scroll skills suck except Aether, Sol and Luna, with Luna locked to units that suck>horrible route maps everywhere>enemies have inflated res to the point where mages are borderline uselessThat's all of the top of my head. It's a fun game, but it definitely has problems.
>>733622562>have to choose between bitch-made easy and having an absolutely miserable experienceWow, cool game!
I like it.
Fire emblem
>>733622959do you think catgirls prefer human men because catboys have barbed penises and that's uncomfortable?
>>733619452>portWait, what?I thought it was only emulated on the Switch Online.Did it really get ported?
>>733623003Probably not because half-breeds are literally marked as creatures of sin in the eyes of God in Tellius.
>>733623092Ignore that retard its only on the NSO
>>733620334Engagefag post
>>733622959>>733623093Fuck this subhuman bitch
>>733623093Sounds like something pushed by catboys
>>733619095depends on what you want out of a game. I would say its on the good end of average but its so fucking slow so depending how you feel about that it will really effect your enjoyment of them game. like I wanna say its better than 3h and awakening but its so slow id rather play those two anyday. for what its worth its one of the few fe's with a good story>Is it worth buying the Nintendo expansion pack for it?just emulate
Most brown post in thread
>>733620334That post hurt so make fe troons axe wounds!
>>733622483Not that guy, but taking a desert map is just being flat out disingenuous. The whole point of desert maps in the series is that they're off because of how absurdly open they are. You have plenty of examples to use to shit on FE9, and you pick the one disingenuous choice?What's next, are you going to post the Ike vs Black Knight map and say that FE9 is bad because of it?
>>733619452Pick the JP ROM then retard
>>733622335mages suckhorse emblemits pretty easyits slooooooooow its honestly a straight downgrade from the 3 gba games before it
>>733623164>just emulateFucking this. Plus if you emulate you can carry your savefile over to Radiant Dawn.
>Now these unc queers are feeling nostalgic for GBA emblem aka the most stale part of your franchise
>>733619452>>733623224>>733623253I can emulate and still be disappointed that they didn't put manic mode into the english version
>>733623194Would you prefer I post Clash? There's really no limit to the number of examples I could give of open route maps where the solution is to just charge forward with your OP mountfags and kill everything with 1-2 range. That desert map is the worst desert map in the series outside of Gaiden. You can't say that some maps are just off-limits to criticize because there are similarly bad ones in other games lol
>>733622483Got any other examples? Desert map is bad in every game it's in.
>>733623253Nintendogs can't transfer their save files to Radiant Dawn on Switch Online?
>>733623302sure, you can be retarded
There is not RD on NSO (yet) inbred retard!
>>733623164>PoR is slow>so just play 3H instead
>>733623335This one is literally just a hallway. It'd be faster naming the few that actually do something interesting.
FE6 and FE7 both have worse desert maps than FE9.
>>733623287The 3 GBA games are really good though. I agree that it's probably the stalest era of the franchise, but they were pumping out a good game every year for 3 years.Better than the fucking DS era for sure.
>>733623403That's... even worse.You pay monthly for this crap. I've had both available to me to play on the go for years now.
>>733623490>Arcadia worse than weak as shit stationary subhumans with no time sensitivity Talk about shit taste
>GBA emblem >good
>>733623302Then emulate it retard. You can solve the problem already>B-BUT this isn't a famitu thread. you are dealing with real people who are telling you the most common sense answer to your dilemma. Leave your werid cope about emulation at the door and just fucking do it!
>>733623539Keeping all the subhumans alive is more interesting than resetting because a Wyvern spawned in the fog and killed somebody.
>>733623562You're clearly illiterate. I did emulate it, and even put the English patch on it.I'm simply calling Nintendo lazy fucks for not taking the opportunity to make an English version with manic mode.
>>733623549There is a line between being a contrarian and a retard with no taste. You're quickly approaching it, so what's your favorite FE game?
Blah blah blah, fuck off Engaygie, no one likes your undignified game
>>733623490>FE6Arcadia is unironically the best desert map in the series, shit taste>FE7Having to not completely neglect Pent while being careful navigating around the strong bosses makes for a far better map than the nothing that FE9 offers.
>>733623467while the monastery does bog things down the gameplay of 3h isnt slow
>>733623310Clash is a good map, I don't care that you got filtered by it. You love trying to push this open fields maps meme because Clash exists, but you can count the number of 'open field' maps in FE9 on one hand. Open field maps aren't inherently bad either, but in order to be made good, they need good enemy placement, which is something that Gaiden consistently struggles with.
>we want the mommy issues audience
>>733623582>Keeping all the subhumans aliveWhy would you even do that? On Maniac mode BEXP is so heavily nerfed that you'll get way more just fighting them normally.
>>733623604Retard
>>733623604>I'm simply calling Nintendo lazy fucks for not taking the opportunity to make an English version with manic mode.HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF NINTENDO?NOOOOOOOOOO
I always try to beat the game without relying on Ike and the Paladins but I always fail. There's just not much reason to use anyone else once you have them.
>>733623582>Too stupid to use Torches or proper formations(lol
>>733623539>>733623616>Arcadia defendersYou anons are absolutely based.
Has anyone made a radiant dawn rebalance? The game is probably one of the easiest in the series, but it’s not a GBA game so hacking it must be much harder. There’s basically no bad units in practice because of how mediocre enemy stats are, though. Like. Even the really bad units, comparatively, can still become usable with just a couple stat boosters as soon as you get them. It’s not like 6 or 7 where some units are dogshit until level 30+
>>733623628You spend far more time in the monastery in 3H than in FE9 enemy phases. You're just trading one slog for another.
>>733619403>>733623128
Kys Fatenigger go slurp whatever shit that hack mushroom defecates.
>>733623229>a straight downgrade from the 3 gba gamesNo fucking way. FE7 is easily a bottom 5 FE. FE8 is mid, but at least highly replayable. The only one that comes close is FE6, but it's very rough around the edges relatively.
>>733623702Thank god I used a torch so I could see the ambush spawn a few seconds before it moved and killed me.
>>733623712>>733623757
>>733623732perhaps, I dont really think either game is that good though.
>>733623712I third this. FE6 is the best game in the series and I’m tired of pretending the sheer amount of variety, fun maps, fun characters, and fun units is completely ruined somehow because Roy promotes late and the final map is easy.
>Uncs think FE6 is goodSAD
>>733623641nnnnngh need more characters with this kind of hairstyle over one eye
>>733623780>Hmm, there's a wyvern there>Should I rescue or create a formation around the squishy unit that I torched with?>Nah, I'll just let him get him get jumpedYou just suck at the game
>>733623780>getting killed by the brigands that ambush spawn on the edges of the mapYou are a special kind of retard.
Arcadia sucks balls and you're not for pretending to be a contrarian
I wanted to like Radiant Dawn but everything after Chapter 1 ranges from mediocre to just a complete clusterfuck.
>>733623873Share your favorite FE game rather than repeating that GBA emblem is bad so I know whether or not I can take you seriously.
>>733623945you're not cool for*
>>733623873It’s not the best at any one thing, but it’s the best at everything. I would say Radiant Dawn is that, but the support system is so ass and it is just missing three really important maps to make chapter 1, 2, and 4 respectively get more fleshed out and feel finished. Things happen narratively that should have happened ingame. And probably we’re supposed to but they ran out of time.
>>733623980I think RD is a lot better than PoR, personally. Still has some major issues of course, but it's a step up in basically every aspect regarding gameplay.
>>733623993>Say it.>UHH it's bad because REASONSnah. I know how this goes
>>733624028It would have been better to say nothing, which is an option
>>733624028Ok so I can't take you seriously, cool.I would give you a modicum of respect if you liked even the worst entries of the series, but being too insecure to name even one makes you a total bitch.
Is there a mod that lets you play Engage Lunatic with Random Growths on the first go? Not that interested in a Fixed Run imo, kills the fun of shitters getting good rolls
>>733619095This game and its sequel, Radiant Dawn, are the only Fire Emblems I particularly liked.
>>733623467>playi think you mean watch
>>733624196Just download a savefile.
>>733624196what's wrong tranny? Need to snowball hard to deal with the game?
>>733624196You just need a save file for that which I would also appreciate having
>>733624196https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=fe+engage+random+growth+mod
>>733624196https://gamebanana.com/mods/426329
>>733619095Mediocre maps, woke story, nonexistent challenge on anything but the hardest difficulty. The character designs are nice and that’s about it.
>>733623776FE7 is severely overhated. Most of the community refuses to play it correctly and then complains because the lategame punishes them for taking shortcuts and trying to force horse emblem in a game where only raw stats matter.
>>733624290found one on leddit
>>733624462>Mediocre maps,they're fine>>733624462>woke storynot an issue>>733624462>nonexistent challenge on anything but the hardest difficulty.why wouldn't you be playing that anyway?dont make me defend por
>>733624462>woke storyNigga I don't even like this game but what the fuck are you on about? There are plenty of characters on your side that are openly racist and the game gives them a more nuanced look than "all racists are evil".This game existed before BLM ruined race relations forever. If it came out today, sure it's kinda woke, but for 2005? Why does everything need to take a side on the modern culture war?
>>733623718What's the point? No mod or patch can fix the worst part of RD which is the split army structure. Even if there was a rebalance that made the Dawn Brigade have proper stats for Part 3, that would feel awful because you had no direct input in their growth unlike most other FEs where YOU made and watched them grow into capable soldiers.
>>733624584>and the game gives them a more nuanced look than "all racists are evil".Lol it's a complete strawman of racism where the hatred for laguz is completely appearance-based and irrational. People who think PoR has a good racism allegory literally believe people don't like blacks because of an aesthetic preference in skin color.
>>733624673>people don't like blacks because of an aesthetic preference in skin color.that is a thing
>>733624645honestly i'd like to see a mod that just said 'fuck the plot' and just put every recruited unit in your roster like a normal fire emblem
>>733624673>hatred for laguz is completely appearance-based and irrationalDo they cover that both sides took turns enslaving each other in PoR? Also, Soren hates them because his laguz parent made him a branded, dooming him to prejudice everywhere.
>>733624196i can give you my file
>>733624762If black people were well-behaved, productive members of society, almost nobody would dislike them. That's what I mean when I call it a strawman.
>>733624673>if you have racism in your game it must be to show that it is based and correct, otherwise the game is woke>this applies to games before the term woke was a thing and the culture war became a complete shitshowMakes perfect sense.
>>733624887what do you even have to gain from lying like this? you're on 4chan you can say you hate black people
>>733624905I'm not the one who called it "woke", but yes, if you don't even attempt to represent the real issue correctly, that is deserving of ridicule.
This is why jannies delete our threads
>>733624953>if you don't even attempt to represent the real issue correctly, that is deserving of ridiculeFair enough, but I think you're expecting a lot from a fuckin videogame my man.This is Fire Emblem Path of Radiance not American History X.
Racism in games le bad unless it validates my preexisting opinion about it
>>733622662you DARE shit talk FE7 after the ironman threads proved it's an impossible game?
>>733624953>Muh real issueJust fucking say it already you don't like black people because they're niggers, this isn't twitter or reddit were you have to hide behind false reasons. Just fucking say it and stop being a loser. no one knows your real name here
>>733624645I was asking for a PoR mod, not a radiant Dawn one. The Dawn brigade needed another map in part 1 though. Or at least part 3, actually? So did the Crimean Knights. I mean desu part 2 needs 2 maps extra, one of Geoffrey one for the swordmaster I forget the name of because lmao.
>>733625010>But it's a vibeo gameThen don't make social commentary if you're going to be non-committal with it and just straight up lie
>>733624998No it's because it's a general.
>>733625046>Just say something you don't believeNo? Or must I also hate Japanese people since they look different and you claim that is my primary concern?
>>733625040If javelins and handaxes are meta defining, then your game is a slog. I don't make the rules, I just say it like it is.
>>733625119>I expect American racism in my Japanese game because I expect the Japanese writers to understand American racism when they come from a completely different culture and see racism diffrentlyYou're as low IQ as the people you look down on.
>>733624673Genuinely, laguz are the racists and Daein is the haitian rebellion. Laguz exile crossbreeds, beorc dont even recognize the distinction exists and just consider them normal beorc.
can you truly call yourself a fire emblem fan if you don't bully archers to good your low level scrimblos?
>>733625254>Laguz exile crossbreeds, beorc dont even recognize the distinction exists and just consider them normal beorc.That isn't true. Look at the support convo between Stefan and Soren.
Good to know you idiots are preparing the /pol/ arguments when DEI weaves releases.
>>733625098What about him?
>>733625040FE7 ironman problems stemmed from after the original FE6 ironman since that attracted the shitters that have played 7 and 8, but never 6. 7 and 8 babies are either retarded or cheaters, but neither of those games are impossible. The best ironmans were from the games barely anyone wanted to ironman as that meant they were games secondaryfags never played so they would have no interest to fuck them up.
not even trying to hate but do the portraits in por remind anyone else of those how to draw anime books?
>>733624998Jannies are trannies that’s why they delete threads
>>733625356cope
>>733625352That's an Armor Knight, not a General
>>733625440Seething
>>733625507RD calls him a lance general so he still counts
Almost nobody plays Ironman anyway.
>>733620334>nu emblem drivelOpinion discarded as having zero value.>>733625154>meta>in a fucking fire emblem gameKill all m*kkahniggers. If you care at all about "ltc" or any of that shit you are a faggot
>>733624502>play it correctlyplease elaborateI've heard the elitist strategy is to maximize exp during turn-floored chapters so you have an ultra juggernaut to speed through lategame (e.g. heath), but I've also heard that the super ultra elitist strategy is to ignore obtaining resources in those chapters and end your turns as fast as possible
>>733625336The support convo just reinforces this further. Despite the distinct biological differences between branded and beorc even stefan acknowledges that beorc dont fucking care and just wants soren to abandon his beorc ties and live in his secret branded village for branded who are too in-touch with their racist half to stand being around the lesser race.
>>733625520wrong. FE7 raped this board
>>733625573>Clearly, if you like being able to counter-attack enemies you must have gotten that opinion from a Jewtuber
>>733625573Mekkah doesn't even LTC or play the games at a professional level.
Fates has well written racism in it, unlike PoR
>>733625603The only way to properly beat these games is to unequip all items from your character and never use abilities or items
>>733619095>Is this game good?No, not at all.>How does it compare to other fire emblem games like three houses and awakening.Path of Radiance is much better than Three Houses and Awakening.
>>733625669>Fates has well written-
>>733625660there's a "professional" FE scene?
>>733625573still crying about your boyfriend mangs? you baldshit
>>733625573>bringing up jewtubersFuck you, now the thread is ruined. I was really enjoying this one too.
>Fates>well written
>>733625647Yeah faggot. >NOOOOO I HAVE TO ATTACK SLIGHTLY MORE OFTEN ON MY OWN TURNS?!??!?!?! THIS UNIT IS USELESS!Kys
>>733625669the fox and werewolf people barely even exist in the story
Marriage with Marianne!
>>733625725You know it's true, Fates doesn't just go racism le bad, rather acknowledging its causes and justifications.
>>733625812You can't "attack more often" with units who lack 1-2 range. Every unit has 1 action. The OP units you're seething about kill things on player phase and enemy phase. All you're doing scrimbloing some shitty archer is making the game harder for yourself.
>>733625812fucking retard
>>733625603You have nothing better to do than raise some units in FE7 but towards the late-game you get Hawkeye, Pent and Harken for free who are all gods and then Athos ensures you can clear endgame. You really don't need much more than that, but you might as well raise some cavs, fliers, Raven, additional healers, etc.
>>733625603Things like draft races have shown that horses and winghorses are generally suboptimal strats because even if you technically could end every chapter 2 turns faster you will spend more time resetting and lose that timegain, and the optimal strategy is generally to take a unit like dart or raven or canas and have them grind through the midgame and become a massive statwall that reliably clears lategame maps with minimal risk. People quickly dropped pegs and lowen as serious options (lowen is still nice to get you until the point where you recruit your real carry) and heath stuck around for a while as a combination of wings and actually good combats, but at this point he's only seriously considered usable if you also have harken to actually kill bosses in the final chapters.
>>733625812You're a goddamn idiot.
emulate it retard.
>>733625876I think he's talking about the tensions between Hoshidans and Nohrians.
>>733625896>rather acknowledging its causes and justifications.when?
>>733625950That's not even racism...
>>733625939https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhwWMSdV9sEAll I've seen is that fliers are memes and cavs are gods. They're definitely the best strategies though.
>>733625950you can't be racist against nohrians, they're white
>>733625971NTA but you are an idiot
>>733625898And all you're doing by repeatedly using the same units and telling others to play the same way is being a boring bitch.
>>733626004>Both are whiteMoron
>>733625896That's a better allegory for racism for sure, but well-written? Do we even get the names of any werewolf or kitsune in the game besides the player units?And when the fuck does this happen anyway? In the dogshit supports of that game?
I want the Fates fox and wolf people to fuck me
>>733625950theyre the same race though
>>733626043Based
>>733624953>represent the real issue correctlyI know you're used to the echo chamber here but most people don't see the world in the fucked up way you do, you dysfunctional psycho. You can't expect to some Jap gamedev from 2005 to "both sides" the JQ or whatever conspiratorial retardation you're huffing, there is something wrong with your busted brain specifically that makes you this way and normal people don't agree with you.
>>733625812Bailey - "the shitters are just as good!">>733626017Motte - "the good units are boring"
>>733626017When I play FE7, I do like using some scrimblos here and there, but I'm not gonna pretend that it's a better way of playing the game.Even then, not using javelins or handaxes is a great way to make the route maps an even bigger slog than they already are.
>>733626137>strawmanAs expected
>>733626137>Strawman
>>733626086Stupid sexy furries
>>733626108I actually do expect someone making a racism allegory to do the bare minimum research to be aware of the obvious issues of black criminality.
>>733625939you're talking about speedruns?iirc in turncount efficiency heath is the best bosskiller for sonia / kaim / limstella / etche will have more strength (higher cap) and speed than harken so why do you need harken to kill bosses?
FE 6 is the best designed game. Don't bother responding with incorrect thoughts, I will ignore them.
>>733626168>Using javelins and hand axes? I'd much prefer to play the game correctly and kill 117 enemies on player phase with my 11 units, thank you.
>>733626274 (me)sorry I meant SoV my bad
>>733626236>why doesn't a Y2K era video game from East Asia marketed to children and teenagers share my 2026 political opinions on a specific American ethnic group shaped by social mediaYour head is all fucked up and retarded, genuinely. I'd ask why you're like this but you've made it abundantly clear you literally can't introspect.
>>733626263im talking about RTA races, not TAS meme categories like LTC.
I will ignore anyone who sings praises about FE6 those are the most retarded posers ever!
>>733626236You are mentally ill. And need to seek mental asylum you unhinged psychopath. Do it before you kill someone just because you go full school shooter.
>>733626236i dunno man maybe dont force people into squalor even when they're trying to do things the right way
>>733626375This seems like a bit of an overreaction
>>733626351You seem dense. I never claimed they had to agree with me, but by intentionally misrepresenting the causes of racism they're just morally grandstanding and not saying anything of substance.
>>733626343Not even Celica would believe that
>>733626459/pol/fags deserve worse. I'm being nice actually.
>>733626326If you're not enjoying the game, why are you playing it instead of trying to convince people theyre not having fun correctly?
>>733622236On my first normal playthrough of PoR (having only played Sacred Stones before) I decided to try and have Ike solo the final stage. He did, and it wasn't even close. The game is offensively easy.
>>733626474That's because she's stupid
>>733626496You may have killed this site but it will never be yours, reddit faggot.
>>733626460The racism allegory is simplistic because it's a game for kids, numbnuts. I guarantee you wokies don't like PoR's racism narrative either, because it makes racists like Jill seem like well-intentioned people who were merely brainwashed, and who would give "one of the good ones" a fair shake. When you and I both know that isn't the case, deep down.
>>733626547>Oh my ragnell and aether
>>733626578Cry
>>733626540FE7 is not my favorite FE for sure, but I was responding to the nigger arguing that if you're using meta shit then YOU aren't having fun correctly.Play the game however you fucking like, just don't complain when the game becomes a slog because you refuse to use javelins and hand axes.
>>733626581>The racism allegory is simplistic because it's a game for kids, numbnutsOk, then why do people get so upset to the point of spewing vitriol like >>733626375 when I correctly point out it's bad? And Xwitterfags fucking LOVE the racism allegory in PoR. They're sucking that shit off to this day.
>>733626574Fair enough
>>733626675>why isn't this 2000s game like my "Based" comicsYou're retarded nta
>>733622236PoR hard mode is like a softer version of lyn hard mode, extended over 25 chapters instead of 10.
>>733626729I legit have no idea what you're talking about but okay
>>733626547>>733626734>>733622732
>>733622236People that have never played it are the ones disagreeing.
>>733626675Because you're annoying. You can't stop constantly injecting your shitty political opinions into vidya discussions. For years this goes on. People like you are insufferable. I go away from twitter and follow zero political accounts in the first place, and barely use it at all, because of the way it is. And then you bring it here, often with literal twitter screencaps. This place is just mirror-twitter for racist retards, except I can't choose to follow only art accounts here.
>>733626326Trying to beat the cog with javs is patently insane. good luck hitting the valks at all, let alone doubling them. the correct way to beat the cog is with silver and killer weapons and then planting your ass on the fort.
>>733626806I agree with the valks part, but what about all the mage fodder? Silver and Killer weapons can't hit a dude at 2 range.
>>733626803Ok, so now I'm your boogeyman even though I've never once posted about this topic before.
>>733626874>won't stop bringing up politics everywhere they go>is surprised to be lumped in with people who constantly bring up politics
>>733626874Yeah, you fucked up, nerd. Talk about Fire Emblem now.
>>733626806>Need high res to tank the valks>Need high luck or skill to take on the Luna druids at all>Need high spd to double the valks>Need high str to minimize counterattacks>Need to choose well between strong weaponry or generalist weaponryFor a map that's almost entirely mage spam, there's a lot of variety to its challenge.
>>733626926>>733626928I am talking about Fire Emblem. FE9's story is self-fellating bullshit that people only like because it makes the nasty evil racists look like deranged retards.
>>733627034>no need for defOswin bros....
>>733627037>it makes the nasty evil racists look like deranged retards.i mean that is quite often true
>>733627037People like it because of the characters and the story. Idk why you niggas always do this, come up with some fake cope reason why people like games. "Uhh, FE4 fans haven't even played it and just download all their opinions from a youtuber [huge FE4 fan excited to play it for the first time.jpg]."No, some people just have shit fucking taste like that. Not the FE4 part, the PoR having a good and interesting story part
>>733625967>Most of the plot>A good amount of supports>The entire settingOboro alone portrays racism better than the entirety of PoR
>>733627202thats not racism retard
>>733627037Need an FE where the racists are the cute girl's army that wins the war
>>733627147Def is less useful on this map specifically, but it can help against the few Heroes ig. Oswin has other times to shine and has surprisingly good res for an armor, so he's still cool in my book.
>>733627037>it makes the nasty evil racists look like deranged retardsThe scene where Soren calls Mordecai a typical subhuman and he responds by immediately chimping out is comedy gold.
>>7336272603h
>>733627202That would expect Nu FE troons to stop crying about fatesawakening and komuro!
>>733627257>D-doesn't count!
>>733627273why would you be fine with someone you literally just saved insulting you? especially when you had bad feelings about them in the first place.
>>733619403Fpbp>>733620136True that>>733620334How much more split up could the FE fanbase get?
>>733627346it literally doesnt, thats xenophobia
>>733627273That's exactly what I'm talking about. a realistic portrayal of racism would not have Soren making unprovoked attacks like this on someone who literally just saved his ass. Real racism is not blindly hating every single person of a particular race because they look different. There are people like that, of course, but it's a total strawman to claim that entirely represents the issue.
Just finished my first playthrough of Genealogy, gonna blogpost like a fag about it. What an experience. I generally prefer newer titles but this game surprised me with how ambitious it was, even when it fell short on a lot of areas. It had a lot of problems but it also did a lot of cool things so the end result was enjoyable, even if I will probably wait a long time to replay it because it could be rather tiring at times. Even knowing the overall plot, the story was solid, not amazing by Vidya standards but definitely up there for the series. It had the proper emotional moments and world building which is all I can ask of fire emblem. The skill, inventory, and inheritance systems are definitely a departure from most other games, especially weird shit like pursuit/critical and having to trade through a pawnbroker, but the clunk is acceptable because at least I can tell it was done with weapon kill system and inheritance in mind. Not something I particularly like but understanding the reason makes it kinda fun in small doses because you can see the dev's creativity. Weapon balance is absolutely fucking borked, maybe worst in series, especially magic where your mages are all fighting over a simple Wind tome. I don't mind the holy weapons, I think it's one of those things that is ok to have for one game, similar to engage rings, but simple things like fire magic being irredeemable and axes being kept viable exclusively due to brave axe is dumb, not to mention my general dislike of weight balancing. I must say however that I prefer the whacky, cool, and unbalanced mess of 4's weapons to the stale and sterile no fun allowed balancing of Fates (despite conquest being my favorite game). (1/3)
>>733627346He's right retard that's not racism
>>733627475The maps being fuckhuge didn't bother me as much as I thought, so long as I didn't play too much in one sitting. Horse emblem is egregious though. We're talking entire map lengths in other games being between your cavalry and your foot units at times. This only diminishes when either the map has objectives in multiple directions (foot units don't have to race to the same place) or very strong packs of enemies with siege support require you to get everyone together before pushing. Or require you to walk Ced/Shannan over to smack them. Despite some annoyance over long stretches of just moving units most maps are still pretty well designed, with lots of side objectives, relevant terrain, and probably the most stressful time pressure of all the games because they're not designed to really let you stop bandits right away. The lategame maps feel noticeably weak to me however. The game is at its best early on when you can spread out into multiple directions, while towards the end you're really just traveling long, drawn out corridors, which incidentally causes a huge exacerbation of the horse emblem problem. Enemy formations are pretty interesting, the large map format allows for a mix of many different types (though at times it devolves into the same cav/wyvern copy pasted 12 times), and I recall some particular cool ones. Kaga sure wanted you to engage with them a specific way because he made the ai ignore 0 hit engagements, which I honestly really hated in this game compared to newer entries where it appears again. There's just too many enemies for it to feel good when a dozen 8-9 movement units ignore your strong unit because their scouters say the power level is too high. Especially in 1rn, where the alternative is allowing the game to "a-akshually" you with multiple single digit hits in a row. (2/3)
>>733627441Soren is just an autistic hardass. There's little of mirth and warmth in here, even for friends, except his gay daddy Ike.
>>733620131>weighing the story the same as the gameplayThis is why I hate nu-/v/ and fujos
TL DR^
>>733627510Speaking of enemy AI, kaga did some very interesting things here. Aside from the above, I found it interesting how certain packs of enemies would never use their full movement unless they were in range to attack, which I'm pretty certain was to prevent super canto cheesing by placing your horse units just out of range and running away after attacking to whittle the enemy down. Game dialogue telling you which castles a pack of enemies will go after or whether the pack would stay in place was a very good touch as well. This meticulous design disappeared when kaga left, took a long time to come back.With that I now understand why some people were bitter about the GBA games. A lot of the systems kaga introduced towards the end were very rough in terms of balance but they were genuinely great ideas. Instead of building on them when he left, the GBA games gutted almost everything. Skills, capture, complex ai, rings/scrolls, weapon repair, etc all just needed some smoothing over. Instead the GBA games were like a series reboot, basically going back to 1 with a few qol changes. I still love them (I love fire emblem bros) but I understand why some kagafags shit on GBA. The general difficulty of the game is pretty low except for specific curve balls they throw at you which would be bullshit in any other game, except you're given equal bullshit to fight it with, which is pretty cool. Ishtore capable of adept nuking your entire party? Just have Shannan dodge everything while walking for three turns then kill him. Giant formation of siege times and sleep staves? Just have Seliph ignore it all with Tyrfing then seize the castle to kill 20 remaining enemies. The breadth of player tools seen here doesn't come back until the 3ds games. (3/4)
>>733627441im glad you had such a nice cushy life.
>>733627548One last thing I don't see talked about enough is the castle management. This shit is practically Monastery tier, how can kagafags be so smug shitting on 3 houses for it is beyond me because having to arena with over a dozen characters and do borderline spreadsheet work figuring out inventories is a chore. And the level of "you don't need to do it" is about equal between both systems in terms of what you can/should skip.>>733627520It was cool, I had fun
>>733627590kill yourself
>>733627441why are you arguing this isn't a thing when the go to insult around here is literally calling people brown?
The truth is that the racism PoR was always supposed to be a minor story beat and not a focal point of the plot. It just isn't as sensitive a topic in Japan as it is seen in the west. People expect nowadays that any media depicting racism must be some Dustborn type thing where the point is explicitly to *be* political and the message it wants to convey is hammered so fucking hard into you the nail passes through your head and comes out the other end. TLDR: Stop applying your current year burger politics brained interpretation of how to portray racism to a 2006 Japanese anime chess game.
>>733627631brown
>>733625316Using the armor knights to level Vika to SS strike in that map while she is untransformed is the real play.
>>733627631I'm not arguing it isn't a thing. I'm arguing most people are racist and don't "hate" on the basis of race like is shown in FE9 with the laguz. You don't have to berate people of other races with insults to know not to go to a certain part of town because that's where the crime tends to happen.
>>733627613Can't do that, I have to play Thracia first
>laguz nations for laguz only>beorc nations for everyone>if you disagree YOU are the racistim starting to feel the kind of tired that sleep doesnt fix
>>733627752>Minor story beatOver half of the game's plot is dedicated to muh racism bad, including the most important parts of the game
>>733627803using imbue to break enemy mage weapons without wasting heal staffs is also fun.if your turn count isn't in the triple digits are you even playing tellius?
>>733627590>how can kagafags be so smug shitting on 3 houses for it is beyond me because having to arena with over a dozen characters and do borderline spreadsheet work figuring out inventories is a choreThe arena/castle management is the one thing FE4fags don't defend about FE4. I still don't find it to be as irritating as the monastery. But it's probably stopping me from even attempting a ranked run. I hate grinding in these games, and optimizing arena is really just grinding.
>>733627839You're confusing PoR with RD. PoR's entire plot is literally your standard FE plot
>>733627887>Turn 287Scrimbloniggas are something else
>>733619095Is this the game where people get mad if you get one of the female characters to S Support?
>>733627887I love these games for the experience of maximizing exp for shitter units to make them the best on my team. It's also why I love the Fates, because you can micromanage the exp to such an absurd degree with dual strikes. Anyone can win with Ike and Tibarn, but how many people win with Lethe and Vika?
>>733627915Several chapters are dedicated to beat your head over with muh racism bad, and the plot itself won't shut up about it either. It's far from the standard FE plot
>>733619095is this on the nintendo gamepass?
>S supportGod I fucking hate awakening niggers
>>733628568This is Anon starting out at a C support. I can't wait to see what his S support looks like after his icy heart is thawed.
>>733624953Yes at first glance it seems like the writers are incompetent because they chose to address a particular topic in their game yet failed to show the slightest bit of understanding about that topic.But that's only if you're judging the writing as if the goal was to tell a compelling story. Any realistic depiction of conflicts between tribes would inevitably run afoul of social orthodoxy and the devs want to avoid that while offering a simulacrum of a game 'about racism'. From that perspective the shallowness of the writing makes sense; present a caricature, repeat the dogma, viewers recognize the intent and avoid having to engage with uncomfortable topics.
>>733619095probably the only Fire Emblem with a story worth paying attention toRadiant Dawn doesn't exist
>>733628709Shut the fuck up anon and start getting close to him, cuz I'm gonna pair you two together
>>733628892>using scrimblos
>>733628951Says the Fiona of /Fegvermin/
>>733629029I'm more of a Gonzales when looking in the mirror.
>>733627475niceI like FE4 a lot. It doesn't try to be a standard fire emblem game, it has its own unique set of rules that work in the context of FE4.If you ever play it again try 0% growths, it's a lot more engaging when you can't juggernaut through the game as easily.
>>733629029our magical regenerating horse girl breaks all the enemy weapons over 400 turns.
>>733619095It's good but if you are new and liked the qol of the new games you will most likely hate it
>>733629380i wanna try rd for her, but i need to finiah por first
>>733629364>It doesn't try to be a standard fire emblem game, it has its own unique set of rules that work in the context of FE4.I have a feeling that Thracia will be similar. >0% growthsNot my style. I really enjoy watching units improve. Not to the level of this madman >>733629380 but just enough that I have a bias to growth units even when I know they are inferior to those with higher bases. Only challenge runs I really do are solos.
>>733629556>I have a feeling that Thracia will be similar.nah tracia feels more similar to the rest of the series
>>733629380Bro she's only gained 2 hp this entire chapter? >>733625316
Enjoyed PoR right up till the point i realised you can solo the last two maps with Ike and Wrath+that skill that boosts ur stats at half health.
FE Engage is the best game in the series for gameplayFE4/5 for storyEchoes for art and production qualityThree Houses tries to ape FE4 so it's probably the best one youve got, but the gameplay is mehPoR is decent story ok gameplay as well but I think even 3H beats it in gameplay
>>733629380>722 turns just to be -3 speed from averagevgh.>>733629739you can skip/cheese most endgames easily honestly. conquest famously can have night breaks through beaten in 1 turn, and a lot of other games have warp staffs/abilities.
>>733629897>FE4/5 for storyonly if you're into cuckholdry
>>733628140Yea. But never forget, if you didnt play it on original hardware, you did NOT beat the game.
I can see why the ironman threads died.
>>733627887>turn 287Those are baby numbers.- Excelblem
>>733619095It's boring as shit
>>733629992that's fine I never even played it. I don't know if I even know how to properly play fire emblem. Put high defense unit in for bait then triple team them once in range? Like I have babby brain in tactics games. I like them but I'm a project manager IRL so my brain juices are usually empty by the end of the week to make guys walk on a grid. I really liked FFTA because of the customization of jobs and how you could count on the regular growth of the job to determine stats.FE by comparison has so many RNG elements in a run to determine if a unit is shit or not and I have no idea since I play so casually. If this is piss baby easy on normal mode it might be right up my ally with the whole switch having a sleep mode on it. I forget if you can rewind or not on the gamecube games or use save states. I don't think you can because of my time spent with chibi robo.
>>733629976kekkkkkk
>No xister spamming combat arts is better than use the meta
Playing FE Eliwood and just amazed at what a great narrative device it is to have the player have a in game avatar that the characters talk to. Every time Lyn looks out the screen and talks to me makes me smile man.
>>733631006>can't have a child with Lyn midgame
>>733619095Just leave my wife Lethe alone.
>>733631038She's fifteen
>>733631545ERM...excuse me for a moment...I have to go to the uh...bathroom.
>>733629897retard
>>733631725Anything else to add?
>>733631545out of 10!
I managed to track down the dlc files for echoes so I can get the class change item, but how do I redeem saars? I checked the dlc option in the main menu but it only had choices to delete or redownload it.>>733627510>The lategame maps feel noticeably weak to me however.I thought the final 2 maps were the most fun, but maybe it's because I was finally done with spreadsheet autism and could just play the game. picking apart the huge formations with your super powered characters was satisfying though, even with the annoying sleep spamming wizards.
>>733632145yeah the last 2 maps are the best ones
>>733619095I replayed it recently. I like the general plot and writing, but you really starts to notice how many characters exist SOLELY to sequel bait. Kurthnaga, Gareth, Dheginsea, Sephiran, Zelgius, the Begnion Senators, Nealuchi, Giffca, basically all just show up to allude for future plot points, but in the scope of PoR itself it makes the game's writing waaàaaaaaay too long and exhausting.The game is fun though, a good beginner's FE. Very easy in a lot of ways.>>733624196Im convinced Fixed Growth purists beat their wives in secret.
I don't know what I was expecting from this thread.
>>733619095Fuck no. It's the origin point for every dogshit feature people attribute to Awakening for killing Fire Emblem.It's pain in the ass to play with an emulator that lets you speed up through ungodly long animations. You should never under any circumstances even consider paying money for a "real" release that won't afford you even that mercy.
>>733635668Mommy Titania is what I was expecting
>>733635958she's not tower material but with all the men unable to do anything she's decent filler. my harem is fully (single) promoted (or stuck at 20(micaiah)/33 (nailah)) here so it's not like she's stealing much xp.also I'm treating rafiel similarly to sothe, non combat actions (rescue drop steal galdrar and taking uncountered hits from enemies) can be done even by men. however i think it's only fair that I'm forced to bring Leanne to the tower, it just makes sense in the female only run.
post tellius girls
post engage girls
post Sacred Stones boys
Post céline
>>733637734Why are you gay?
>>733638034>
I think my favorite game is New Mystery DS out of the ones i've played (GBA, 3H, Tellius, Fates, Awakening).It's quick and simple and fun and the one I could see myself replaying the soonest while using different units because of that.
>>733638534try engage next
>>733638534New Mystery is cool. People bitching about Kris are just homos.
Cutesythea
>>733619095it’s garbage, poor pacing, very linear and tons of dialogue, character portraits look like shit, slow combatVillains are kinda cool, everything else is shit
>>733620334>2. SoV’s artstyle> celica's not that hot! Alright?!shaddup
>>733623980RD is my most played FE game. I wish the storyline was a lot better as I really liked Micaiah.
>discussing with an fe "fan" >turns out he just likes 3h and heroesI really wish these types would just start with saying they only like 3h. Would save everybody time
>>733635764>It's the origin point for every dogshit feature people attribute to Awakening for killing Fire Emblem.No thats 4 and arguably 6
>>733619095I gave up a few levels in because it was just more FE
>>733640127The only Heroes fan I know was the most deranged mentally ill mutt I've ever known
i did the funny
>>733640515wacking people with your staff doesn't cost durability but it does increase staff rank.
>>733619095it's a very different game to the modern fire emblems as a result of there not being infinite xp to grind to trivialize everything. I think it makes for much better gameplay and more interesting puzzles to solve where the solution isn't just to have bigger numbers. I think the writing is a lot less cringe too, modern fire emblem games are kind of embarrassing. This one is a lot more grounded and focused and significantly more thought through.
>>733635958damn those are some enormous tits
>i think the writingWhen are subhumans going to understand that nobody plays fire emblem for this?
>>733619095First half is pretty good hero journey stuff2nd half is a lot of really long and boring maps where the challenge is staying awake though the long ass enemy phases
>>733623980RD hard mode part 1 without the jeigans is perhaps the most refined experience in FE. Everything afterwards is more novelty than quality, but I still always get excited preparing a team for the goddess tower
>>733641124Might ask well be infinite xp with bonus xp you can get like 5 people to level 20/20
>>733641201you have to admit the writing has gotten a lot worse over time, even if you think the earlier fire emblems have shitty writing too
>>733641201if that was true the games wouldn't have any writing at all, it would just be a menu with a bunch of srpg puzzles to beat in orderno dialogue, no portraits, no character names, no backstory. just tactics
>>733641317So? Nobody has ever played fire emblem for the fucking writing. Anyone who does is one of those retards who started with 3h and think its the pinnacle of political writing or something. They literally remind me of obnoxious pretentious faggots like the guy that wrote the lost comic.
You can only reply to this post if you beat Ike on RD 3-13, hard mode
>>733627915I just beat it last night Por is barely A completed story with how much of the game is sequel bait to rd. Like for as much talk of the evil God there is he sure doesn't show up or matter. The black knight barely matters.The ending of the game is laguz rebuilding crimera and the game stating the king would have been happy to see his kingdom finally hit the point where it's equal and hate freeAt its core por is a story about racism and I don't know how you can argue otherwise other than being embarrassed by that fact
>>733641415so if you're comparing 2 games you can say one has worse writing than the other and have that be a true thing to say that reveals information to a third party that before that point didn't know that factyou know, communication
>>733641421Why do you think putting ike ahead of everyone to juggernaut solo everything is hard?
>>733641389The gameplay purists don't ask themselves why the units are even given a fantasy aesthetic, or why there's music, or anything except pure number crunching. They should ask for all games to be made with default engine block assets if they want to dismiss anything that isn't purely mechanical as part of FE
>>733641480Because most people don't do it, or just leave the Dawn Brigade to be carried by jeigans and then whine that their Dawn Brigade is carried by jeigans
>>733641485presumably they don't want music or art or aesthetics and all those things just make them mad for taking away resources from gameplay. it does make you wonder why they're playing fire emblem of all things though. these games are far from the peak of tactics rpg gameplay
Everything is a binary with you fucking autists. I've never seen a fanbase this stupid. You don't see FFTards outright dismissing story and aesthetics for pure gameplay.
>>733641389Whenever these threads become fast and quickly archive its because autists are arguing about some trivial autistic comparison like which backpack should Xander use in conquest lunatic. Seriously, if fe fags cared about the “writing” they’d play geneology but obviously nobody does because those subhumans will likely think it looks “crusty” or maybe its because geneology has completely utterly trash gameplay.yes characters have characterization in fire emblem but it is one note, most characters other than the protagonist get a handful of lines in the game usually their introduction and one in the ending, supports are completely one note and more often than not characters are entirely defined by a personality gimmick rather than being actual characters. You know what pisses me off about these subhumans? Fates probably has some of the most interesting lore and characterizations in the series but that game always gets lauded as one of the worst stories for obvious reasons. Do you really think anyone should listen to the opinion of the average storyfag? No. They will think any story thats similar to game of thrones is good.
it's always a conqueer. always
>>733641614To be fair tellius is just a bit boring and slow, genealogy gameplay is actually genuinely miserable to try and get thoughI almost fell asleep multiple times in my seat slogging though that
>>733641573Because FFT is a generic jrpg and doesn’t concern itself with good map design, unit balance or general gameplay other than letting the player customize their units however they want. What is there to discuss gameplay wise in that game? Nothing because that game is completely one note gameplay wise when you get characters like ramza, agrias and orlandeu.
>>733619095woke as fuck. the mc is a fag
>>733641656Engage is my favorite fire emblem sorry to say and definitely not because of the story and characters. My most hated thing about engage is the character design.
>>733641614I'm one of the anons who was part of this Xander argument you're talking about, and I just recently played FE4 for like the 3rd time. I like FE nigga.
>>733641201It's a nice side aspect. I like how the Tellius games depict characters you're bound to encounter in life and makes you interact with them. The world's full of Shinons and Makalovs or to an extent and excluding his background, Oliver too, you might even relate more to them than the rest if you project a little. It won't make or break a game, my favorite game has units that are more or less stats and a portrait, but it's nice to think about in the downtime.
It's been fascinating seeing the>story and character don't matter viewpoint be born from Fates' story and characters being the laughingstock of gaming. It's like these fags internalized PRESS START TO SKIP for everything. You didn't really see outright dismissal like that before it. Fire Emblem has always had silly moments and characters but now even caring a little for writing makes you "pretentious" lmao.
>>733642071When videogames first started the story was never the centerpoint where is the deep and engaging story in something like ff1?
>>733642137What a stupid argument. When videogames started D-pads and analog sticks didn't exist either so why don't you go back to using the shitty number pad controls too?
>>733642071Its more of a return to form. Its nice to have a basic or simplistic story and characterizations than none at all but videogames with engaging gameplay can have none of that and still be engaging. I don’t know if you’ve ever played the first FE or even the second but characterization and story are “barely” there. You even notice this in the remakes
>>733642224Its not a stupid argument, clearly we do not need a story like 3h or genealogy to have a good fire emblem. The story and characters could be like shadow dragons and as long as the gameplay is good the game is good. The same goes for any generic jrpg like the example in the post you replied to.
>>733642071>Blaming it on FatesThis has been a thing since Radiant Dawn and arguably even all the way back with FE6. The story has never been FE's biggest strength. It's either the presentation(Look at how many people dicksuck SoV for that alone when it fails in having good gameplay, characters, or writing) or gameplay.
>>733623993I unironically love FE4 the most despite its many many flaws.
You know whats actually relevant and important to the game that isn’t the story and gameplayfag will agree with? The music.
>>733642418Shadow Dragon was shit though
You guys better stop liking what I don't like or else I'm going to mad. Again.
>>733642646>I’m upset that nobody gives a shit about my bad opinion
>>733619095It's good, though it's just kind of slow and easy. I recommend playing the Japanese version on maniac, or at least just going balls deep into hard mode on your first playthrough in the NA version.It's basically a 3D version of something like 7 or 6. Use an emulator for speedup.
These are the worst threads on /v/. Even the ntr threads are less cancerous.
>>733642821Hildacuck...
>>733642821I love it when you faggots get filtered.
>>733642864>>733642874Return to the pit from whence ye came >>>/vg/
>>733642352The first two fe games were on the nes, and could not stick more text boxes into the games small space. games several console generations later don't have limitations the originals did and should not be of equal quality in any departmentPor still makes you listen to it's boring ass story droll on for 5-10 mins in-between each chapter
>>733642994It also lets you skip it, like engage. Its how I play both of those games now because I don’t need to read the story more than once.Tell me why do you replay a fire emblem game? To read its story?
>>733625154It is really silly how despite their being 3 dozen axes and lances every boss and other enemy uses javalins and hand axes in most fe games so the player can't just bow down the boss.At what point do you just make every weapon 1-2 spaces and you just charge forward on 2 space attacks Or uh just have bosses move
>>733642928>>>/lgbt/
>>733619095>Is it goodThere's a reason why the tellius games killed the series
>>733643114Uh yeah, if you want. I don't want to engage with you if you're just going to go down this weird cope rabbit hole that the story sucking doesn't matter despite the fact they really did try with it.It would obviously be nice if it was good
>>733625154I’m tired of pretending javelins and handaxes are strictly better than killer weapons
>>733643253You don’t have an argument anyway
>>733643272They are though in a lot of games because you can counter attack the 3 dozen enemies with their own javalins and hand axes on enemy phasePlaying Fire emblem well is actually just enemy phase the game
>>733643315I guess, most of these games stories suck ass and if you want to just say it doesn't matter because cutscene skip existsSure. Idk why you're mad that people say it sucks, clearly you agree
>>733643253>the story sucking doesn't matter It doesn’t as long as the gameplay is still fun.>It would obviously be nice if it was goodSure but its still not the selling point and shouldn’t be brought up as one or weighted equally to the gameplay when recommending it to somebody.
>>733626734Whats with retards pretending like PoR is piss babby mode while every one of you retards slobber on Sacred Shits? SS is far, FAR easier than anything else in the fucking series. And while PoR isnt the hardest FE, it is certainly harder than "lyn hard mode". Like do you retards even play the things you shit on?>>733626547>dude I solo'd the end of the game with my lord on NORMAL MODE, this games is 2ezIs there even a fire emblem where you cant do this on normal mode? What the fuck is this argument?Seriously, is this the work of some autist with a hate boner for PoR? I havent been around for a few months because the last time I was here, you retards were all crying about everything besides an overpowered jaegan as "being a scrimblo". Im getting more convinced that none of you even play fire emblem.
>>733643375Except it does matter because if we're comparing it to another game with a more intresting story that gets a point like shit on 3houses all you want but that game was discussed for a half a decade just from how much more interesting fodlan is to most fire emblem worlds Nobody wanted a por sequel, people wanted a 3houses sequel
Welcome to /FE/. We fucking hate FE.
Who's the funniest meme unit?
>>733643431Yeah I have no idea why that guy thinks the protag soloing the game is uniqueThat's literally almost all of them besides like roy just because he sucks ass but even than Marcus can do that for him
>>733643324Depends on the fire emblem game.Gba or 3 houses? Sure they are enemy phase games almost entirely.Conquest or engage? Both phases are important.RD is the game I wouldn’t know how to categorize but por is an enemy phase games too. Thing about RD is that it rewards you evenly distributing exp for more balanced gameplay but it also gives you the means to completely ignore leveling up characters. For example, if you never level up something like titania or geoffrey the game gives you Renning for free at the end.
>>733643431I'm going to let you in on a secret anon. These threads are made purely because some faggot has been butthurt about someone not liking the Fire Emblem game he likes as much and he's been shitting the board for nearly a decade now. They're usually made arond the same time every day, provided there isn't a waifu thread up where he can console war in instead.
>>733643431Stop posting midwit.>>733643456Who gives a fuck what they want? They are tasteless plebs and nothing they want should ever be considered.
>>733643431If it's PoR "Hard" (the NA version) then yes it is far easier than FE8 Hard. Most people won't bother to download a JP rom to play maniac.
>>733643532Hell for how epic le hard people pretend fe4 is, if you just send sigurd oifey into a pile of 40 enemiesThe will win very easily, fe4 is only hard if you do bother to use your other weaker units that actually do have a chance to die
>>733632145>picking apart the huge formations with your super powered characters was satisfying though,This was fun but everything being a snaking corridor wasn't. My infantry units were borderline useless except whoever I could fling across the map with staves.
>>733643598>Hell for how epic le hard people pretend fe4 isLiterally nobody says this
>>733643597Because maniac sucks ass and was cut for the international release for being low quality garbage retard The only people who like maniac jap por are people who never played it but learned about it from some iceberg video or some shit
>>733643670I say that THOUGHBEIT
>>733643456Why do you think the fanbase is divisive on 3 houses to begin with? Why do you think anyone who defends 3 houses isn’t someone who cares about the gameplay at all?I think it should be pretty telling when the average fe player who played 3 houses tells you they hated the Monastery or when mods get made to skip things like the Monastery and Somniel.All my friends love FE, and they have liked every single recent fe except awakening. All have the same opinions: >the monastery sucks>the somniel sucks>3h map design sucks>awakenings class system sucks>awakenings map design sucksThey will all talk about the story too and nerd out about the lore in 3h but those points still remain consistent. I wonder why.
>>733643163That's why Fates had the right idea by giving bosses buffed 1-2 range weaponry, it solved the issue completely.
>>733643674I never said it was good, needlessly aggressive tardbro. Just that it's harder than FE8 hard.
>>733643726Why are you framing it like you don't agree with me when you clearly doCharacters and stories can obviously make a big impact to an experience and 3houses is proofYou're right 3 houses a shit ton of issues but it's a game I think about unlike most fe games
This thread needs more DIGNITY
>>733643431Have you done the defend duessel map on hard mode without excessively grinding your units(specifically Vanessa), recruiting cormag, killing the boss, and also getting the secret book on the west boat?Just curious.
>>733643597>If it's PoR "Hard" (the NA version) then yes it is far easier than FE8 Hard.It literally is not, Seth alone solos the game and has perfect availability, better than even the fucking lord. This isnt getting into infinite grinding and undead enemies being dogshit. The only way to get a remote challenge in any capacity is to do Ephriam Hard, no grinding, minimal to no Seth, and only because it power spikes briefly with the ghost ship. It is stupidly easy.
>>733643798The defend Duessel map is pretty funny, since the only side objective that's easy is defending Duessel, despite all the other objectives taking real effort and strategy. I think only two enemies on the map can even damage him at all, and one of them is the stationary boss.
>>733643769Probably because even though we’ll talk about 3 houses story we agree its a game we don’t want to replay. Meanwhile we will talk about a game like conquest or engage daily. You think that just because we are capable of discussing the story it means we think its an aspect equally important to the gameplay? No.Like I will literally spend hours arguing about wyvern elise or paladin jakob but I will do the same talking about 3h story, infact I’d probably talk more about which individual build to give each character without resorting to wyvern spam faggotry in 3h.
>>733643798>dude have you 100% all objectives on one map, but you cant train Vanessa???And the answer is yes by the way. Congrats for cherrypicking 1 of 2 maps in the entire game that has a hint of a challenge. And its still not even egregiously hard, ghost ship is far more annoying
>>733643827>It literally is not, Seth alone solos the game and has perfect availabilityI don't know what to tell you. Even to this day I can occasionally lose a character to phantom ship or a lategame siege tome if I'm playing sloppy. I literally could not get a character killed in FE9 NA Hard if I tried. Like, there's not one threatening map in the entire game.
>>733643927>we
>>733643827I love how you added more details to your argument after this post>>733643798It tells me alot.
>>733643963>>733643827You guys are comparing one easy fire emblem game against another easy fire emblem game. It is like the most whatever discussion possibleThey both only have like 1-2 remotely difficult maps
>>733643934>you can’t train vanessaI said excessively train. Even a trained vanessa will be vulnerable in that map but a 20/1 vanessa or tana? Not really. Thanks for ignoring the points made though. It really tells me alot about your argument.
>>733643827Seth still needs help to beat the Gorgons, realistically. I can't think of a single map in PoR non-Maniac mode that Titania struggles with, meanwhile.
>>733643963>I literally could not get a character killed in FE9 NA Hard if I tried.And I am outright calling you a liar. Be sure to stream a run.>>733643995My post was less than 40 seconds after his post, I didnt even see it until after I posted. Why are you acting schizo instead of refuting the point?
>>733644036>You guys are comparing one easy fire emblem game against another easy fire emblem game. It is like the most whatever discussion possibleI'm aware of that. Both are easy, but FE9 Hard is the easiest game in the series, and it's not particularly close. >They both only have like 1-2 remotely difficult mapsPoR has 0 difficult maps
>>733644090You have no point to refute. You’re just grasping at straws and cherrypicking lol.
Shut the fuck about tribal warring and tell me if Allen or Lance is better.
>>733644109I guess this is a really gay win that doesn't matterFire emblem is only a strategies series when you do set up goals like training a weak unit or go for some side objective All of them can be easily beaten by just sending your good units at the boss and not replying your bad ones
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>>733644204Whoever gets better level ups is better
FE9 is FE8 but made easier through forging and through skills which only benefit the player. It's a baby ass game desu.
>>733644053No, she really isnt unless you are a turbo retard.>really tells me alot about your argumentYea it really tells me a lot about yours since you schizo'd out here >>733643995It also tells me you're a disingenuous ass hat. It is absolutely not easier than Lyn Hard. Full fucking stop. And it is not easier than SS at all either.>>733644119>y-you have no point-Explain how PoR is easier than Lyn hard, right fucking now.
>>733644204Neither will fuck you
>>733644218I could intentionally use only the very worst units in FE9 Hard and still not have one difficult chapter to speak of. It's insane how easy it is, and I'm shocked there are people seriously defending it right now.
>>733644229>>733643970Its almost like you have no reading comprehension or just flat out refuse to read the reply chain. I seriously hate faggots like you two. Die in a fire. You contribute nothing to this conversation other than showing how utterly stupid you are.
>>733644119Do a run and show us how ez PoR hard is, be sure to stream it
>>733644204Alan is generally better imo since his bases+growths are better designed for the early game. Sure, Lance will double earlier, but Alan will do everything else earlier.Both are high to top tier though, and you should use them both. It also helps that they have a strong ass support together that's easy to build.
>>733619095>path of radianceXD I still remember the remake meme
>>733644274I guess dude, idc Im not that anon. Sending Seth to solo the game is like the most common fe meme in the world but keep going on your crusade about this
>>733643798The secret book is the only really difficult part. That and keeping all the retard green units alive for the knights crest. Also trying to spare a turn to rescue one of said retards off the village so that you can visit it can be a hassle. >>733643934It's rather dismissive to just write ghost ship off as annoying. It's a solid chapter. The gorgon chapter can also be challenging if you are actually trying to kill all the eggs. Honestly the map design as a whole is pretty good, I just wish the enemies were better tuned. Reforged really got my hopes up with lunatic mode only to fumble it by giving you too many extra tools.
>>733644319I don't care about the "memes". Titania does the same thing in FE9, but at least FE8 has maps where Seth can't be everywhere at once like Phantom ship.
>>733644249>doesn’t argue a single point just gets mad and ad hominems with vaguepostingI told you every single reason why that map is hard unless you grind in a single post. I can say the same for several other maps in SS like the phantom ship map. Can you argue that honestly or are you going to continue being a hypocrite?
>>733644274>I could intentionally use only the very worst units in FE9 Hard and still not have one difficult chapter to speak ofThen prove it, do a run and stream it you LARPing faggot. Use the worst units. If you die one single time than you concede that you are a hyperbolic fag
>>733644384Okay, Anon.
>>733620334BUT SoV HAS KIRITO AND ASUNA HOW CAN YOU HATE IT!!!IT HAS ROM COM!!!WE BEG FOR ROM COM!!!!!
>>733644360>It's rather dismissive to just write ghost ship off as annoying. It's a solid chapter.Its solid until it gets to the point that flying fags fly in from the fog and hits your squishy unless you are absolutely spamming torch. Its fucking annoying at that point because youve effectively killed like 90% of the map already and are just cleaning up. I wont say that its "bullshit", but annoying? Yea.
>>733644398Not agreeing with the anon you replied to but your takes on SS are just as hyperbolic lol
Cord>Bord
>>733644398Nigga I'm not streaming an entire game for you to win an anonymous argument.
>>733644398This guy did it with Ikehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggo8OEV5QAE
>>733644390And I refuted that. And stop running, go do a run right now with the worst units in PoR. SHow us how ebinly ez it is. Stream it too.>>733644541Ike has decent growths and is nowhere close to being one of the worse units. Use Mia or some shit, I want to see it.
>>733644585>D-Doesn't count!Typical
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>>733644585You didn’t refute it at all though. You simply cried about not being able to use a trained vanessa in an attempt to devalue the point made, which was completely dishonest
>>733644585He will bexp her to make sure she has good str. I don’t know how exactly you make por “hard” and tedious. Only use non-royal laguz units maybe?
>>733644539>I can do it with the worst characters without dying>ok prove it>UM NO I WONTTypical>>733644630>dude I can do it with the worst units like uhhhh IKE!!!Do it with Mia. Dont run like a vagina, put your money where your mouth is.
>do a run with the worst units in a game with bexp and 1-2 range swordsI don’t know…
>>733644778You look like a fool right now making ludicrous demands. Who in their right mind would stream a 20+ hour game to prove a game they don't like is easy? Some of us have jobs.
what's a "job"
>>733644778Ike doesn't even get to promote until after Serenes. He's among the worst units to solo with no matter how much you cope.
>>733644881it doesn't count because Ike is the most likeable character
>>733619095Too long. Too many characters, ranged is useless, bad weapon system, too much RNG, slideshow cutscenesShit game
>>733644687>You simply cried about not being able to use a trained vanessa in an attempt to devalue the point made, which was completely dishonestNo, I said that a trained vanessa isnt in danger at all unless you are a turbo retard. You cant even follow a reply chain.>>733644754>He will bexp her to make sure she has good str.This is assuming you dont do this, because if you want to include that then you can just powergrind in SS to have Level 20s before Dussel/Ghost ship. In which now SS is still easier because BEXP atleast requires some speed to your gameplay. You cant argue one cheese method in a game and exclude it in another game. This is like saying every FE is easy because you could just reset until you got perfect RNG on level ups.
>>733622662>Enemies have bloated resAcktually, tomes in Tellius have terrible mt. The strongest E tome in PoR is the weakest one in GBA.
>>733644778I don’t know why you’re using this demand as your argument when we both know you wouldn’t actually watch the stream or even video if linked. You could argue like a normal person and post actual examples where titania or Ike would have trouble. I mean we’re talking about a game where you can combine wrath, resolve and vantage and clear out entire maps with one unit.
>>733644881That's actually a pretty early story promote all things consider Eliwood doesn't promote until like the last hour of his game
>>733644861A service you provide for monetary gain.
>>733644919It's not complete shit but yeah por is way to long for how typical and bland the game is
>>733644861Hector at the start of Fire Emblem 6.
>>733644850>You look like a fool right now making ludicrous demands.Maybe next time you shouldnt make a retarded claim and then bitch out when someone calls you on it. Dont get pissy with me just because you're too big of a pussy to do it while also having such a fragile ego to concede that you were being grossly hyperbolic. And Im still waiting for you to back your other claim that fucking Lyn Hard is somehow harder than PoR Hard.
>>733644937Actually I did follow the reply chain and you responded like this exactly>dude have you 100% all objectives on one map, but you cant train Vanessa???Your following post didn’t have a point at all, just incessant anger babbling and something about vanessa not being in danger at all without a single point to back it up.For example, both vanessa and cormag would have to eat a ballista hit to kill the boat with the secret book, you can do this with cormag comfortably as long as he is not dealing with anything else but that also means recruiting cormag in time. Theres two ways to do that, you recruit him with tana whom you just got and is fresh level 4 unless trained or you can recruit him with duessel after talking to him with ephraim, which is easier? Cause I don’t think either of those are
>>733644881>>733644881Lv 20 Ike averages 14-15 str, 17-18 spd, and 12-13 defense before anything like stat boosters are applied. His only worry at any time is magic
>>733645160Lyn Hard? Do you mean just the Lyn mode section? If so then I concede that the tutorial section made for baka gaijin is easier than FE9 Hard as a whole lol.
>>733645057The difference is that literally anyone else in PoR than Ike can theoretically promote the very chapter that you recruit them. Even a character like Mia would be better than Ike for a solo due to her ability to promote way earlier.
>>733645160To call someone out on something means you have to actually have a point. You’re just going on a rant then demanding something utterly stupid.
>>733645057More like Smellywood.
>>733620758Best lancer, she could solo dragons in the later game.
>>733645281Idc this is a stupid discussion anywaysBoth SS and por are really easy games I'm just saying ike promotes pretty early, like yeah maybe 6 chapters later but he has more than enough to time hit 20/20 anyways and if you just funnel bexp into him it's a non issue
>>733645339Eliwood is a good unit and probably the ideal candidate for afas drops
>>733645016>You could argue like a normal personRich from the fag who's opening line is "PoR hard is easier than Lyn hard". Dont make retarded claims if you dont want to be called out. You said you can solo with the worst characters. So do it.>>733645292Your point is that Lyn Hard is harder than PoR. Not even getting into SS, thats fucking ludicrous.>>733645281Im assuming you are another anon, but thank you nonetheless
>>733645209>Implying those are impressive statsThese are similar stats to 20/1 Mia, btw.
I loved it as a teenager. Cool story, cool characters and very fun to play, felt like chess with RPG characters.I tried to play three houses as a 30+ year old boomer with my daughters switch and thought it was asinine and childish in comparison. Did I grow up, or were the games from my childhood that much better than games today?
>>733645405>Rich from the fag who's opening line is "PoR hard is easier than Lyn hard". Dont make retarded claims if you dont want to be called outThat wasn’t me don’t assume you’re talking to just one person. All my posts have been in response to some anger rant you made in retaliation devaluing SS difficulty when its an arguably harder game. I agree the lyn comment is hyperbolic.
>>733645480Shut up retard it's all anime bullshit
>>733645480Whoa you mean to tell me you loved games more when you were young? Riveting, mate.
>>733645385I liked Hector more because eh hits hard and doesn't afraid of anything.
>>733645420>These are similar stats to 20/1 Mia, btw.And Ike can get there far faster than her since he gets like 6 chapters before she shows up, thus outpacing the enemies far better. In >>733644541 he was level 19 already on the chapter Mia shows up, for example. Do you think Mia is even soloing her own chapter that she shows up on? Like maybe its possible, but I remember her doing fuck all damage wise and being extremely squishy.But this argument is dumb anyway lol
>>733645657I like eliwood more cause he fucked and impgrenated a dragon
>>733645385It's either him or Farina that should get the Afa's drops
>>733644541>uses this as an exampleThis same guy has an entire series dedicated to soloing the game with characters in SS, and he had to add a bunch of rules to not use infinite heals.
>>733645405Can you name like one chapter where you are realistically worried about unit deaths in FE9 Hard? Like FE8 has Turning Traitor, Phantom Ship, Ruled by Madness, Gorgons. They're not ball-busting or anything, but these are maps where good players can still experience a death I think. What does FE9 have? All of the notoriously "hard" chapters from maniac like Clash are a complete joke when you massively outstat all of the enemies like you do on Hard, especially considering the free support system means you can have mega bullshit like double earth supports without even grinding.
>>733645826nta but trying to keep mia and rolf alive is such a pain in the ass on their recruit chapters
>>733645905What? They spawn completely out of danger what do you even mean?
>>733645905The secret is just have someone rescue them like Oscar and have Titania solo the chapter than if you want to use them shovel bexp down their throat so they are usable
>>733645745>farinaNo not really. Several better candidates than her.
>>733645975Good point, should've said Athos
>>733645938I dont know, I havent played por in ages, but I remmeber rolf kept getting sniped by some flyer faggot and mia was running into someone she couldnt do anything against. But Im going off of memory from like 11 years ago so maybe I was just bad
>>733646006>i’m going to act retarded on purpose
>>733646039Rolf spawns with the rest of your army and won't see a single round of combat unless you move him towards the enemies lol.
>>733645735I highly doubt Roy is part dragon with those stats. Maybe Ninian is his sidepiece but Roy hits like a Sacaean swordswoman.
Why are we pretending FE8 Ch10 Ephraim is hard?
>>733646127Why are you being dishonest? Can you tell me how it isn’t hard? How do you deal with recruiting cormag and the secret book? Do you kill the boss? Do you keep all 3 of duessel’s knights alive?
>>733646127It's harder than anything that PoR has to offer
>>733619095femblem is for femboys
>>733646039I had astrid deleted in enemy first round before Like zero chance to even get to her without redoing chapter and moving faster units closer to block her
>>733646105Oh I'm sure she's not the canon choice except I think heros made it canon but don't play gacha just off the basis that would have been a story point in fe6I just think her and eliwoods support is really cute and it really fits that games overall story
>>733644478Fair enough, though I usually am spamming torches so it doesn't bother me much. I think I have the two pegs generally go up north (more mogalls than gargoyles iirc) and Cormag go south both with torches to handle fliers. The real pain in the ass is the rear ambush though, I agree that this one sucks unless you've managed to clear the middle ship to have somewhere to move. Not an ironman friendly map either.
>>733646415Isn't Heroes' whole point that you pull characters from what ifs?Also I agree, Eliwood and Ninian is best.
I don’t see how anyone can think lyn isn’t for anyone other than hectorNinian is the only way Roy gets Dragon Blood and Eliwood is CANONICALLY in love with her in the story, like he will literally cry for her
>>733646278You could have at least named Phantom Ship dude. The only thing you even have to do in chapter 10 is recruit Cormag. I don't know why we're getting stuck on this average-ass map in FE8 and pretending it's some brutal challenge.
>>733645385Heath is the ideal candidate, or Farina as the other anon said.
>>733646563>ignores every single point made except the cormag one
>>733646551Hector and lyn bicker like a couple in eliwoods story already, like that seems to be the normal choice without player input
>>733646612nta but your "point" is that you HAVE to do all optional stuff on that map. Why? You dont NEED a skill book, its fucking SS. Nobody is struggling to hit outside 1-2 shitters. So now you just have to talk to cormag (easy to bait) and "rescue" Dussel when nobody except like 2-3 enemies can even hurt him. How is this hard in any capacity?
>>733646612Sorry for not caring about your literal fucking secret book. Really telling how you have to bring up all this extra shit that you don't have to do and doesn't even give you good rewards so you can claim a map is "difficult".
>>733646551It's canon that Hector gets with Florina because I think she's cute and Hector is literally me.
>>733646770You're a big guy
>>733646743>rescue duesselHe has 15 con. Please try thinking about your arguments.
>>733646770I doubt you look or even talk like hector
>>733641389Its not that writing doesn't matter at all its just that its like the least important thing for a video game to be fun at least imo its Gameplay > visual style > music > characters > storyI split characters and story about because I think you can still have enjoyable characters while having a bad story like fates
>>733644384>at least FE8 has maps where Seth can't be everywhere at once like Phantom ship.That's why they give you Duessel.
>>733647178Even that's not enough to make phantom ship "safe" in an ironman setting. It's possibly my pick for hardest GBA map. FE6 ch 7 is easier.
Last time /vfeg/ called SS easy they managed to kill seth and duessel and jobbed at the siege snakewoman chapter. God I would love to be seeing a relay on fe8 as the current conversation unfolds.
>>733646964>is so stupid that he cant even see the quotation marks or read the rest of the sentenceIm saying that there is nothing to "rescue" since he can only take damage from like 2-3 enemies, which is plenty of time to get Ephriam down to talk to him. Ergo, that isnt hard. Baiting cormag to talk to him isnt hard either. It is only remotely "hard" if you are trying to get a skill book that you dont need anyway... and this isnt hard either because IIRC you have 10 turns and the ballistae have 5 rounds. Park someone tanky to sponge the shots, then fly in to bop the ship after it cant do anything. This isnt hard. What is left thats hard? Stopping the cavs from dying for a crest? Pretty sure you can run ahead and park Seth there in like 2 turns and he murders everything. The towns arent difficult to get to either
>>733626043You would let him into your bonehole?
>>733647293Fair enough, it's a hard map.
>>733647307There was one very recently that made it to the route split pick but nobody picked it up.
>>733647307Please those runs are just people throwing for the funnies. It's not proof of anything
I'd be down for that hack that combines the routes and increases enemy growths.
>>733647326No you clearly implied you were meant to rescue him and bring him to ephraim. This is just damage control, but I like it when pretentious people fuck up, its funny.
>>733646878>>733646878>>733646878>>733646878
>>733647384NTA and I think that map can be a bit tricky, but that guy clearly didn't mean rescue like you're claiming. He put rescue in quotation marks because Duessel himself doesn't need any help. The cavs are the annoying part to protect for the knight crest.
>>733647384>No you clearly implied you were meant to rescue him and bring him to ephraim.No, I literally did not. What I said was:>and "rescue" Dussel when nobody except like 2-3 enemies can even hurt him.Me talking about how nothing can realistically hurt him, along with the quotation marks, shows that he isn't exactly a damsel that you need to blitz down to protect. Is English not your first language?Regardless, the point stands that its not particularly hard to keep Dussel from dying, or to bait cormag, or to sponge ballista shots to get the skill book. The hardest part is keeping the cavs alive, and you have seth for this. Its not particularly hard.
>>733647440You don’t need to use the word “rescue” for that context. Furthermore he also fails to mention the two wyverns next to cormag after you recruit him unless he meant to imply rescue duessel to make it easier for him to recruit cormag instead of tana.
>>733647150I think good stories can have a lot to offer. That's why visual novels which are games where the only gameplay is pressing a to advance text can still be compelling and wonderful experiences. The issue is that videogames generally have fucking godawful writing and in some ways it's much of a muchness when you're comparing two videogames that both have shitty writing. Fire emblem does feel different though, I find the new games really painful in a way that the old games never were. The old games were just kinda quaint and cute. Way more inoffensive.
>>733647818Visual novels are a genre completely dependant on the story and are more an exception than a rule. A game like mario doesn’t need a good story to be enjoyable.A game like FE or advance wars doesn’t need a good story either, its just there to give the player a goal.
I have skipped all the stories since Fates. I did read a good bit of Three Houses, what was there was enjoyable but that game also is literally not designed to be looked at with any degree of scrutiny. So I didn't give it much. I was reading Echoes but I dropped that game in Chapter 3.
>>733647608>You don’t need to use the word “rescue” for that context.Sounds to me like you jumped the gun and lashed out without understanding what was said/reading the whole post, and now you are embarrassed by it. There is literally nothing wrong with what was said, the implication is clear by the quotations what is meant. If actual rescuing was meant, there would be no need for quotations at all.>Furthermore he also fails to mention the two wyverns next to cormag after you recruit him unless he meant to imply rescue duessel to make it easier for him to recruit cormag instead of tana.Cormag moves on turn 5, you can literally kite him and the riders until he is in range to talk to with Tana and can slaughter his escort. The map is 10 turns.Again, the only thing on a timer really is protecting the cavs if you want a knight crest. And Seth can be parked there and kill everything. Oh and the villages I guess but one is next to dussel and the other you start next to. The map can be easily beaten, 100%, by speeding Seth to protect the cavs, leaving someone to soak the baslista shots, and waiting for cormag to come to you as you kill everything. Theres some reinforcments that come up top IIRC, but Vanessa or any other half trained unit can clear.Its just not hard, like at all.
>>733648129It takes more than 2 turns for cormag to actually be in range. Moreover kiting him isn’t as simple of a matter as you are making it out to be, especially if you are keeping your weaker forces to the north outside of the range of the ballista to do so.You should admit the map isn’t trivial because it isn’t. Every one of your arguments has been nonsense.
>>733648083I don't blame you. The stories really aren't worth your time. It's kind of sad.
>>733648129>seth comfortably solos the map while protecting the cavs from two flanksNo not really. You can rescue ephraim with seth to get you duessel but that does mean dealing with a speed penalty and forcing seth to delay himself at the frist natural chokepoint.
>>733648350>It takes more than 2 turns for cormag to actually be in range.That leaves 2-3 turns to talk to him and kill his escort. Unless Vanessa is base level, she can likely hold her own, and by turn 7-8 you should have most shit cleared regardless so you can slaughter them pretty easily.>Moreover kiting him isn’t as simple of a matter as you are making it out to be, especially if you are keeping your weaker forces to the north outside of the range of the ballista to do so.It is though. We are talking 7 turns, the map should be mostly cleared by now outside of a few reinforcements. And why are you assuming the rest of the arm is weak and cant kill his escort? >You should admit the map isn’t trivial because it isn’t. Every one of your arguments has been nonsense.Ive dismantled all of them pretty well though.>>733648739>No not really. You can rescue ephraim with seth to get you duessel but that does mean dealing with a speed penalty and forcing seth to delay himself at the frist natural chokepoint.Why do you need to rescue Ephriam? He has ten turns to get to dussel. Run seth down to murder everything, have the main army work their way down behind him. Leave a few to help mop up cormag's helpers, have someone tank the ballista shots. This isnt hard dude. Oh, and Pirate ross can also kill the balista so you technically dont even need Vanessa/Tana for anything outside of talking to cormag
