:(
good because in the remake she's annoying
>1 phoneix down later"thanks cloud fuck me :D"
based goonjester making sure foid no longer raises clouds cortisol levels
meanwhile in Rebirth>she's dead>no actually she's alive>no wait she's actually dead>no wait she's back and alive! >no actually she died again>but no she's actually a force ghost
>>733625534Pheonix down revives you from being knocked out, not death.
>>733625437Aeris*
>>733625437I loved this line, does he say it in Rebirth?
Jenova killed Aeris
This line makes a lot more sense when you realize Sakaguchi is talking about his dead mother.
Vivi dying without seeing Zidane and Garnet reunite>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aerith's death
>>733625686no, rebirth went full retard
>>733625890Celes thinking everyone's dead and accidentally killing the last person on earth and attempting suicide>>>>>>>>
>>733625437i like the remake games but it pisses me off how bad they handled this scene. like, i get it, they know that the audience knows it's going to happen, and they think they're playing a kind of sleight of hand by implying via other differences in the canon that she might live, and playing up the player's anticipation of the scene might be a part of that. it just doesn't work. the original worked because it was unexpected, the general lack of fanfare, the music and especially the dialogue which despite the game's reputation was incredibly strong in this scene. I think the strongest line in the whole thing is Sephiroph immediately directing Cloud to go north while Cloud is grieving the girl Sephiroph just murdered... Sephiroph at this point is Jenova and it makes sense from that perspective. This "Sephiroph" has nothing to do with the Sephiroph you see in the flashback imo.God I love FF7
>>733626337>God I love FF7That's all you needed to say.
>>733626818For real though it's in the same area for me as something like Silent Hill 2 where it obviously has a psychological focus. Cloud and James are on the same level for me
>>733626083people who actually play video games would probably share this opinion
>>733625437Tellah and Galuf had cooler deaths
>>733625437>AerithI didn't even know they remade VII and changed the names.
>>733625602It was so nice of all those rabid animals and monsters to just knock you out then walk away. Such a polite society they have in the untamed wilds.
I am confused about the water burial even when I was a kid when the game came out. Corpses probably float later. Imagine they just let her rot in a well bottom. wtf.
>>733625784Galuf refusing to die until his friends were safe > every other FF death and I don't even like FF5
>>733627303Hookers sink, like witches.
>>733628476Would explain why Tifa didn't get near the water.
>>733625437>You're right Cloud. But she will start to stink up the place soon. So you should dump her body in the swamp outside.
>>733627275Every FF world wouldn't even have the concept of death if yhat weren't the case, retard
AERITHHHHHHHHHHH
>>733625437>ribbon falls out of hair during cutscene>her in-game model still has hair tied back with said ribbonThe absolute hacks at SquareSoft thought nobody would notice.
>>733625437Millennial faggots actually cried like fucking pussies with these Roblox leftovers FUCKING LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>733633156If you need GRAPHIXX to feel an emotion then you're soulless, books must just confound you
>>733632732
>>733633380damn, I hope he doesn't know a Kenneth.
>Aerithkys, stop changing history
>>733627791>0HP>Refuses to dieAbsolute Cinema.
>>733625437>no longer laugh, cry...Poor Aerith, if only there was a Family Guy of sorts....
>>733625437Woke garbage
>>733633380People like Mr. Brownshirt grew up to tell you that they always loved anime and Japanese games, and those anime and games were always about trans rights and black power. They were stupid dickheads then, they are stupid dickheads now.Anyways, I never got past that mountain mini-game where you train soldiers to defend it, but what I played wasn't that bad, I just lost interest.
>>733625437It's actually :) because Sephiroth's neck looks like his mouth
>>733627275they kill you when the party is downed, thus game over.
>>733625437why did this actually kill her out of all things when you can die in battle and get stabbed and shot by other things
>>733634149Sephiroth stronk
this one makes me really sad. She was so hopeful
>>733634358Aeris chimes in the ending
>>733634358God this game was so perfect. Literally the only good final fantasy (besides tactics). Don't @ me silly boys.
>>733626818The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
>>733625437Coolranch...
>>733627275>>733625534LMAO UPBOAT THIS ORIGINAL COMMENT REDDIT
>>733625437Sephiroth standing there in that pose like a complete autist while Cloud ignores him cracks me up.
>>733627275The want to keep you alive and warm so they can rape you in your sleep.
>>733628683this is your proof that tifa is a "whore"? lmao you are laughably illiterate.
>>733636380welcome to japanese theater.
>>733635369True
>>733625437Aerith will no longer talk..., no longer thmile, thleep...or get hungry.
>>733625437I prefer remake version. Cloud breaking down, Sephiroth laugh and how he tosses Aerith blood on him, How Cloud denies it all and we only have seen 50% of the entire cutscene is great.
>>733625437did uncs really cried over this
>>733625437Damn this looks way better in the remake
>>733640308
>>733641361What things do you think remake did poorly?
>>733641745Zack and cloud fight vs sephiroth felt forced.
>>733641745NTA but my issue comes down to execution. When Aeris died in OG, Cloud says this: >Sephiroth>Do not worry. Soon the girl will become part of the Planet's energy.>All that is left is to go North. The 'Promised Land' waits for me over the snowy fields.>There, I will become a new being by uniting with the planet. As will this girl......>Cloud>...Shut up.>The cycle of nature and your stupid plan don't mean a thing.>Aeris is gone.>Aeris will no longer talk, no longer laugh, cry...... or get angry......>What about us...... what are WE supposed to do?>What about my pain?>My fingers are tingling.>My mouth is dry.>My eyes are burning!Sephiroth tries to go into a villain monologue about how he's going to inherit the Planet but Cloud tells him to shut the fuck up. Because his shitty lore doesn't matter right now. This is a raw, emotional moment not a cerebral one. So can someone explain why 7R thought that Aerith's death was the prefect place for shitty lore? I already have problems with the dream worlds on a fundamental level but now I REALLY hate them after they intruded on such a memorable moment.
>>733625598>but no she's actually a force ghostI fucking hate the fact I bought Rebirth. Such a shit game that I forced myself through, huge buyers remorse.
>>733625437I envy whoever cried to this, you must be very in touch with your emotions to actually feel something for a poorly written non entity.
>>733625598No she's dead. Cloud is mentally fucked you would know this if you actually played the game instead of watching youtube videos./v/ not living down those accusations that they dont actually play the games they complain about.
>>733625437I want to be eaten by Aerith
>>733625437It’s like something written by a 10 year old when tasks with writing a sad moment for a class project.
>>733625437bro use a fucking spoiler tag wtf
>>733642838her name sounds like a pornstar
>>733642838does she still post her butt?
>>733625437>That shot of cloud saying this line in rebirth, but silenced by Sephiroth’s manipulation One of my favorite moments in the new game.
>>733644035Not really silenced by Sephiroth himself, but Cloud own psyche, just like when Zack died. He blocked Aerith death and his mind made up memories.
>>733641496yeh.
Nobody was sad about this, people wanted to be Sephiroth back then because he was objectively the cooler character.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JIEbyzmUM
>>733642838my wife
>>733644263kek
>game where characters fight massive serpents hitting them, weird robots with automatic weapons shooting them, magic monsters shooting fire and electricity at them>get stabbed and dieyeah nice "writing" there squaresoft
>>733627275getting knocked out by wild animals isnt canon, thats just the game catering to casuals
>>733644719
>>733633954
Sephiroth if he Texan
>>733635369I dont feel confident enough to say this wont happen
>>733625890tryhard sentimentality, overkill for me>>733627130Galuf's death is the best, though perhaps inspired somewhat by Tellah's>WHY WON'T YOU DIE!?>>733627791>>733633567Exactly
>>733627791Not only is it just way better on the fundamental level but also IN FUCKING GAMEPLAAAAYYYYFUCK THE PS1 BABY DIAPER SHITTERS GETTING HYPED OVER SHITTY FUCKING CGI CUTSCENES THAT LOOKED LIKE GARBAGE ON RELEASE
>>733646060And that's why JRPGs don't allow you to name your characters anymore
>>733635369>The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally doneWhen people discuss FF7 they do it in remake terms so im afraid this wont happen, anon.Im sorry. You will keep seeing "im a new FF player, just played remake and i loved it!" posts everywhere.
>>733640308lmao
Does stillbirth at least do the thing where her normal theme plays during the fight instead of overblown orchestral music
>>733648329Not disagreeing that the SNES is better, but this is quite an embarrassing overreaction my dude.FF7 is a great game even if garbage followed in its footsteps.
>>733646060Why did i have to scroll this far to see this?
>>733648703>overblown orchestral musicsoulless tard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShXyvHik48Y
>>733648954This sounds tryhard and lame idk what else to tell you
>>733626083>accidentally killing the last person on earthThis only happens if you're shit at videogames.
>>733649005a battle version of the main theme is pretty cool
>>733625602um actually sephiroths sword has anti-phoenix down permanent status effect
>>733646060I remember going round a friends house to play it on release and I named Tifa my friends little brothers name. He got so upset, started crying, then their mam and dad kicked me out the house. Still hilarious
>>733645752>perfect for each other>a great futurewow 100% right!
>>733625598Did any of you expect anything different?Of course this was the 'creative' solution that would emerge fromthe conflict between their need to 'innovate' with dumbass twists everyone could see coming but also the fact thay their shit-tier writing skills absolutely could not adapt the rest of the game to her living.Enjoy your slop, the original is still one of the best stories in gaming while understanding what the word 'pacing' means.
>>733642109>Remaster bad to the point of missing everything the original game did well down to basic framing and pacing.I mean, what else did you expect?
>>733649005have to agreetechnically competent and rich sound, but soulless musically (except for the vestiges of the original themes)
>>733649750Little things like that are everywhere in Remake. Here's another example. Look at the walls here. It's not just about the blood. There are gigantic claw marks all over. Everything would lead you to believe a monster was on the loose. You follow the blood and get to the top floor and you learn it was actually Sephiroth who killed President Shinra. The two stories don't mix. Sephiroth's precision sword swipes don't match the rampage that you see in the halls. Because it's not Sephiroth. It's Jenova. It's your first clue about Jenova's ability to shapeshift.
I was promised we'd never see a negative post about remake again once it came to switch, what's happening?
>>733625598watch the third game be called revive only for her to be brought back and then die again but she's not really dead, or is she?
>>733650379The same was supposed to happen when the PC port happened
>>733650442>watch the third game be called reviveIt's Reunion isn't it?
>>733649407Yep.In the OG, Aeris had to die. She was a paragon character, always basically knowing the right thing to do and having the will and clarity to do it. Meanwhile Cloud and Tifa, the main heroes of the story, were a mess and had to solve their issues before facing Sephiroth & Jenova. Once you look past all the convoluted lore about Jenova and the Ancients, and the Shinra complications, FF7 is a rather straightforward character-driven story about Cloud.
>>733649407>Enjoy your slop, the original is still one of the best stories in gaming while understanding what the word 'pacing' means.you dont even like the OG lil bro
>>733650531The crisis core game was called reunion so I thought they weren't gonna do that.
>>733642697she's clearly alive to some extent since the others could feel her presence in the end
>>733650531They already used Reunion for the Crisis Core remaster.
>>733650545Well it's about everyone. There's a bit of dialogue about Holy that I never hear anyone discuss>Bugenhagen>Holy... the ultimate White Magic. Magic that might stand against Meteor. Perhaps our last hope to save the planet from Meteor.>If a soul seeking Holy reaches the planet, it will appear.>Ho Ho Hooo.>Meteor, Weapon, everything will disappear.>Perhaps, even ourselves.>Cloud>Even us!?>Bugenhagen>It is up to the planet to decide.>What is best for the planet. What is bad for the planet.>All that is bad will disappear. That is all.>Ho Ho Hooo.>I wonder which we humans are?Holy's purpose is to destroy everything the Planet considers a threat to itself. The endless sequels have fucked that up but never mind. Humanity is considered just as much a threat as Sephiroth and Jenova thanks to the Reactors. Aerith's prayer was her asking the Planet to give clemency to humans. Because there's still good in them. Cloud, AVALANCHE, most of the cast has done evil at some point in their lives. Cloud, Reeve, and Vincent worked for Shinra. Tifa and Barret are terrorists. Cid abuses Shera. But they don't have to stay that way. They're all fighting for the sake of the Planet right now. Even Reeve, who's still at Shinra, is using his resources to protect the people of Midgar. You can amend the things you did even they were terrible. It's why Sephiroth being painted as tragic annoys me. He might have had a terrible life but he's entirely unrepentant of his actions. Therefore he has to die at all costs.
>>733625437he is describing ideal woman
>>733641496I still cry during this scene
>>733625437nu square enix could never write such a heartfelt moment
>>733650085My man, if asked to elaborate that is the exact same part of the game I would have chosen to talk about.>OG>The music is just gone, leaving you with the eerie silence as you explore the carnage of something having torn through what has been your biggest challenge up until this point.>The guy who has been built up to be the bad guy until now is just dead.>That weird thing in the tank you saw before is now gone and the door's been torn off from the inside.>This is the point the entire plot switches gears from what seemed like a cyberpunk anti-corp story to you dealing with something far less straightforward.>You get nothing but unreliable narrator answers that don't line up with what you're seeing, leaving you with a mystery to unravel as an incentive to engage more deeply with the plot.>Remake ruins all of this by forcing a 'cinematic' boss battle that completely undercuts all the tension, mystery, intrigue, and the need to keep playing to unravel and figure out what has just happened.
>>733648380no its voice acting.
>>733625437
What is this gay boomerslop who tf cares
>>733653182Not only that, Cloud's cell being the only one open is a contrivance right? Nope. Cloud is a part of the Reunion and therefore would be the only one Jenova is interested in setting free. We didn't even get that in Remake. Because the party is never locked up, the question of "why is Cloud's cell door open" just never comes up. And instead of blood, we just get purple goop.
>>733653687>Not only that, Cloud's cell being the only one open is a contrivance right? Nope. Cloud is a part of the Reunion and therefore would be the only one Jenova is interested in setting freeI thought jenova or sephiroth didnt know Cloud?
>>733653739Of course Sephiroth knew Cloud. Why would Sephiroth have forgotten the guy who very literally stabbed him in the back with a 5 foot hunk of steel? The entire reason Cloud was chosen to be the Black Materia patsy was to get back at him specifically.The "Who are you?" part is literally just Sephiroth lying. As part of a gaslighting campaign to weaken Cloud's ego.
>>733653739They don't remember who Cloud is specifically. However the Reunion isn't based on memory. Hojo explains the Reunion like this>Hojo>...He's a Sephiroth-clone I created after the real Sephiroth died five years ago.>Jenova cells and Mako, with my knowledge and skills, have been combined with science and nature to bring him to life.>...I'm not wild about the failure part, but the Jenova Reunion Theory has now been proven.>You see, even if Jenova's body is dismembered, it will eventually become one again. That's what is meant by Jenova's Reunion.>I have been waiting for the Reunion to start. Five years have passed, and now the Clones have begun to return.>I thought the clones would begin to gather at Midgar where Jenova is stored.>But my predictions were not entirely correct. Jenova itself began to move away from the Shinra Building.>But being a genius that I am, I soon figured it out. You see it was all Sephiroth's doing.>Sephiroth is not just content to diffuse his will into the Lifestream; he wants to manipulate the Clones himself.Dismembering Jenova will not kill it because each piece is attracted to one another in an attempt to reform Jenova back to 100%. Even if a piece of Jenova finds itself in the body of another c organism, it'll just usurp that organism and use them as a vehicle for the Reunion. The rub here being that Hojo expected Jenova's body to be the site of the Reunion. When in reality Sephiroth is. All that to say even if Jenova doesn't specifically remember who Cloud is, he still carries Jenova's cells and is therefore a part of the Reunion.
>>733634358cloud running desperately but staying in place was so well done, its incredible what they did with the chibi like models.
>>733625437:(
>>733653878Eh I don't really buy that. Mostly because of his dialogue in Nibelheim>Cloud>Sephiroth!>Sephiroth>Being here brings back memories.>Are you going to participate in the Reunion?>Cloud>I don't even know what a Reunion is!>Sephiroth>Jenova will be at the Reunion. Jenova will join the Reunion becoming a calamity from the skies.>Cloud>Jenova, a calamity from the skies? You mean she wasn't an Ancient!?>Sephiroth>...I see. I don't think you have the right to participate.>I will go North past Mt. Nibel. If you wish to find out... then follow...>Cloud>...Reunion? Calamity from the skies?This fucking translation is so choppy I swear. Point being if Sephiroth just wanted to fuck with Cloud, he could just do that. And he does do that. So we can probably take him at his word when he says being at the mansion reminded him about who Cloud was and the events in Nibelheim.
>>733625548>cloud trying to impress the ladies when sephiroth shows up and framemoggs him, going on his mako diet not enough to skeletonmaxx against a no frauding truecel tallchad like sephiroth, the no rizz gooner mogged sub10 SOLDIER admits defeatouch
>>733627275The idea is that when your entire party is knocked out, you die because they eat you or rape you or whatever
>>733653687I never thought of that one. I really appreciate your eye for the details in this game.
aerith like the grass earthcloud like the clouds in the sky
>>733627303Let's be fr ain't nobody taking that long ass commute to Bone Village and beyond to pay homage to this bitchShe'll just be a lonely skeleton that no one visits
>>733654294Sephiroth jumps between "not knowing who Cloud is" and then reciting Cloud's supposed history as Hojo's puppet. It's blatant manipulation, anon. Nevermind the idea of "Sephiroth clones" being mindless puppets is a construct of Sephiroth's own creation to begin with, as the clones were all people with their own names and histories shanghaied into a mako bath.So: why did Sephiroth make up that stuff about puppet people, if it was not to fuck with Cloud?
>>733654535I don't even think FF7 is this perfect game or that it's script should be treated as holy writ. But ironically, as much as it's been overly heralded over the course of decades, it doesn't get the flowers it deserves. Everyone points out how Cloud has pre-emptive during the flashback and that's how he was able to get a lucky shot on Sephiroth. But did you also know that Cait Sith comes equipped with Manipulate? Historically Moogles have been exclusively helpful to the player. No one would ever expect the big Mog to be the traitor. Also Cait Sith is the only party member that forces his way into the party. All the other times Cloud has to ask or give an invitation.
>>733625686Indeed he does.
>>733655145Why don't games use their mechanics to tell stories more often?
>>733641496nah I didn't cry but the ending (this isn't the ending) gave me feels like "damn this was a good game" but not pussy bitch tears or sad
>>733655145Games aren't made with this attentiveness anymore :(And people don't even appreciate it anyways. Look at all the zoomoids and millenialoids who screech about how "this stuff doesn't matter" or "you're overthinking it" because they're too dumb to realize that the old guard WAS talented enough to give a shit about every tiny detail in a game.
>>733645752didn't this really mean aerith was perfect for zack since cloud thought he was zack or some shit
>>733649978>>733649005>/v/edditors when real instruments are used instead of a shitty roland sc-88 soundfont with heavy compression
>>733652910This scene in Rebirth was actually decent until the retarded Gi shit comes in at the end. Everytime they do something even close to being as good as the original it's immediately undermined by some retarded shit.
>>733649978Agree, everything new is bad, but when it sounds like the og, it is good
Okay but when does the new version of the OG 7 come out on steam? Any news on that yet?
>>733656057Anyone who likes anything about og more than remake is a shitposter
Have FF7fags played literally any other JRPG? It fucking sucks.
>>733656091true. and I don't even mind if they change canon a bit but the way they did it and when just sucks. it's like there has to be no mystery or moments when they expect players to connect the dots. nope, they went full disney with this one.
:((
Aerith ball
>>733656678The Dyne scene sucked really bad for this. On the surface it seems sound and Barrets V.A really does his best with the shitty script he was given. But removing the suicide and adding in Palmers dumbass there ruins the moment and point its supposed to give to Barret entirely.
>>733637798triggered much?
>>733656719>tfw Aerith will never get fat and spend Clouds gil on knick knacks from hobby lobby
>>733656091>>733656678Are you being real here or this is just some falseflagging? the GI section was absolutely core to the narrative and now im surprised it wasnt in the original to begin with.
>>733656678>>733656886or better analogy would be old star wars trilogy vs new. nobody asked for jar jar but here we are. I often think how popular culture peaked in the period from 70s to 2000s (for both west and japan), it's slightly different for movies, anime and video games. video games peaked in the 90s. what we get today is result of current cultural trends and audience expectations which fucking suck. agree 100% about dyne, they butchered it lmao. original scene hits hard and is visually impactful.
>>733625437Did you mean "Aeris"?
>>733655145cat shit is the cat, not the moogle.its in the name.
>>733625437>Aerith will no longer talkThank goodness, I thought she'd NEVER shut up!
>>733656884STILL waiting on Elena ball..
>>733634358in the flow of universal time.
>>733656914>Aerith will never get fatuh ouh >>733656884
>>733649116Are you still friends with that guy? Does he think it's funny now?
>>733625598remake isn't meant to be an alternative to ff7
>>733635369The one thing we can count on is that the one person who keeps making VIIR thread will never stop making VIIR threads.
>>733627791>GARAFUShit, I have been pronouncing the lu part as the lu in luke all my life.
>>733625598This sounds like a Kingdom Hearts game. I wonder if there's any connection...
>>733625686Yes.Don't acknowledge anything that the mega haters write, because they never played the game.
>>733625686Apparently yeah
>>733656178Weak-minded reply.Plenty of new stuff isn't soulless. A lot of it is, due to the nature of consumption, especially consumption driven by people such as yourself with terrible taste.The original is good because Nobuo Uematsu is a good composer who understands melody, structure, counterpoint, patience, contrast and all this other shit I could go on and on about. Almost all the good things about the remake track you linked are the Uematsu's themes. Everything else is just kind of a tempo and wall of symphonic noise, a kitchen sink of every random musical idea that seems to come to mind.It might be pretty awesome and exciting to watch a real orchestra made up of humans playing that in an auditorium, it's a very high-energy arrangement with lots of exciting bombastic moments and driving rhythms. You'd really see the performers working hard and the effects would be impressive. But as a videogame soundtrack, it's just not that special compared to the originals.
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>>733627275>knock you out then walk awayare you retarded? when does this ever happen once? they are killed by your conscious party members you dumb fuck.
>>733625437Don't worry! She was saved this time!
>>733625437She had an amazing porn collection
>>733633408>Kenneth nickname is Kenny>Aerith nickname is ??????
>>733625598just like in my favorite fanfictions!
>>733625598I thought it was kino just poorly executed if you didn't play the original.
>>733625658/thread
>>733625534>that cutscene in FF5 where the character is dying and they go through every healing spell and -item in the game with no effect
