>Not enough manaDo uncs really think that Diablo 2 is better than 3 and 4?
>>733630535>4 minor health pots in lodYou kids don't remember back when you couldn't buy mana pots
>>733630535And>Need more timeIs better? At least with mana you could get items that steals mana on hit and stuff like that.
>>733630535yes and 1 is better than 2
>>733630616>you kids don't remember when the game was shitGee golly I wonder why, grandpa.
>>733630535>Do uncs really think that Diablo 2 is better than 3 and 4?everyone knows this is a fact and not an opinion
diablo 3 on release was peak
Why didn't they try to balance the character attributes in Resurrected? Literally the only attribute that matters is Life, and DEX/STR are only useful for reaching the requirement to equip certain gear. It would be awesome if Energy made your magic more effective or something, because it's useless when potions are so common.
>>733631646>overtunedit was great. skill issue
>>733630535the more i play diablo 2 the more i hate potion chugging.
>>733631741Energy was more useful when vendors didn't sell mana potions. Your idea is pretty decent though. Tbh D2 has a lot of issues with how stats and skills worked which is why things have changed so much since it released. It would require a big overhaul to really "fix" a lot of things which would alienate people who want the game to be mostly unchanged.
>>733631146>diablo 3 on release was peak>the servers didnt work>everything was overtuned>the best way to get gear was to smash vases on the hardest difficulty because mobs were too hard>the economy was inflated to hundreds of trillions of gold for an item on week one>pay to win real money auction house>dogshit item design
>>733631741>It would be awesome if Energy made your magic more effective or somethingNow all items and skills must be rebalanced and you're trusting tranny nu-blizzard devs to do this right. You are very smart.
>>733632218I'm trying to remember but weren't they also trying to force 2FA onto people because of the RMAH stuff? And people were still getting their accounts hacked/stolen with no recourse to get them back?
>>733632248Blizzard didn't make Resurrected retard, that's why it's good. It was outsourced to some Activision studio that also did the Spyro remakes.
>>733631146nigger shut the fuck updiablo 3 release was the reason I no longer preorder games
>>733631741That requires a whole lot of rebalancing and wouldn't really make the game more interesting. Gear is what matters in this game. The "requirements" are only so because people know to farm for specific items.If you removed all unique items, suddenly every stat matters.
>>733633463play like a retard, get retarded results
>>733630535D2 > D1 = D3 > D4
>>733630535All diablos are shit, but some are better than others
>>733630691>Retarded child can't understand the concept of resource management.I guess that's a bridge too far for the current generation. Maybe if it was explained to you in 30 second tiktok videos?
>>733630535my friend told me 2 is better than 3, but i couldn't bring myself to play it cuz the graphics are very ugly. haha.
>>733630535Get mana gained on kill and increase your mana pool faggot or play a phys based attacker and get leech.
>>733630535>zoom-zooms spiteful they were dealt a shit hand so no they make shit up so they can shitfling something
>>733633463This is what playing poe2 is like, it's a true spiritual successor in that sense
>>733630535NostalgiaThe droprates are retarded, the balance is shit, 99% of items are useless, endgame is boring, trading is clunky
>>733636440Having played the original D2 in and out back then, I was astonished by those noggers not even acknowledging the massive cancer tumors that 1.10 introduced to the game, such as enigma and blessed hammer.They just recreated the aids as is when they could have fixed things.>b-but muh purism and people wanting the unadulterated original experienceNot an argument when they added new gear, content and an overpowered character while also judaising and negrifying the appearance of original characters.
>>733631146I played through all difficulties and I didn't find a single unique or set item
>>733636978They split resurrected and RotW exactly for that, so that purist can't shit and piss their pants about balance changeswill they do it? depends on how much money they make, but i wouldn't have a lot of faith because they listen to that retard LLama which asked for andariel droprate nerf
>>733636978>I was astonished by those noggers not even acknowledging the massive cancer tumors that 1.10 introduced to the game, such as enigma and blessed hammer.Sorry, can't hear or see you over my 60 gorillion hammers.T. Watermelonius Hammerdin the third
>>733636978You're never going to stop crying about enigma, are you? Every single D2 thread, you always hate on that particular thing.
>>733631836>potion chuggingOne of the many plagues of ARPGs.
ENTER
YOU DON'T NEED TO CHUG POTIONS STUPID CUNTS JUST SLOT SOME FUCKING TIR RUNES GODDAMN JESUS FUCKING CHRISTMANA ON KILL IS GOATED WHILE LEVELING JUST FUCKING DO IT AND STOP BITCHING THEN MAKE A FUCKING INSIGHT. DUMB FAGS STOP WHINING ITS SOLVED.ITS SOOOLLLLLVVEEEED.IT WAS ALWAYS SOLVED. STOP BEING STUPID.
>>733637743
Is there a specific area I can farm that has a higher chance of dropping an Angelic Wings?
>>733638019https://dropcalc.silospen.com/
>>733633463Why do you run away? Holy shit this is not a modern ARPG slop. Stand your ground.People really playing like this?
>>733637707I tried this one, but it doesn't "feel" like an ARPG to meModded MC does it better desu
>>733631146Zoomers were a mistake.
>>733638191modded minecraft has fuck all, bro. 99% of mods are straight up outdated, broken and require some obscure dependency mod that's not hosted anywhere for some fuckass reason.
>>733633463Where's your mercenary my man?
>>733638149>Andariel Thanks
>>733630535>Do uncs really think that Diablo 2 is better than 3 and 4?whats an "unc"?is this some new american nigger-speech?Also, MANA>COOLDOWNS.Introducing cooldowns in these ADHD IM FUCKING BLASTING MY SHIT games was a retard move that killed all the fun. >play d4>use a skill>you can use it again tomorrowfuck off.
>>733632658Thats nice, but playing Resurrected still gives blizzard money.Blizzard North made the original anyway too.
>>733638347>whats an "unc"?It's zoomer speak for dilf, they just can't stop craving old men.
>>733630651>muh atmosphere Go huff some ozone.
act 6 dlc soon famalams?
Is Last Epoch worth buying?
>>733637328a lot of people complain about it
>>733637743caps lock xD
>>733638508I'd rather them do some balance passes on some classes like Barb first.
>>733637128>andariel droprate nerfqrd?
I'm playing pirated and modded Ressurected and I'm having fun
>>733637128I thought they just made it so you didn't need to do the "glitch" anymore for Andariel, they nerfed her?
>>733638187Then you'll just get hit repeatedly and die
>>733638859Never.
>>733638906Unless you're carrying a shitload of rejuvenation pots or have a massive defense stat you will never be able to outheal the incoming damage of that many mobs at once
>>733638956Just ignore him.
>>733638723Yeah it got nerfed. Same with the sunder charms drop, which are now as rare as winning the lottery. Another one of MrLlama's genius ideas because god forbid people who can't play more than a couple hours on the weekend manage to make expensive builds.Balancing games around the people who play them 8+ a day for a living has always been a dumb idea.
>>733638723Apparently Llama did a grail run in 60 hours, by modding the game so she's always terrorized.And instead of fixing the droprate for other bosses they nerfed the droprate for andy.
>>733630691nigger tier response. Enjoy your shit colored skin retard
>>733630535Nah, I actually liked the period just before RoS (when they removed the RMAH) and up to the first few seasons in D3 the most. That was the most fun Diablo in terms of gameplay. D2 is a lot better in terms of atmosphere and art style and D1 is better still.D4 was just mediocre at best on release, played 1 character up to max level and have not played it since.
>>733639062>>733639123>LlamaWhy is Blizzard taking orders from an e-celeb? I've removed Resurrected from my wishlist.
>>733638906In normal true 99% of the timeIn later nightmare or hell yeah you can definitely get killed face tanking mobs
>>733639123>you wanted to be able to farm SoJ in single player so you can get your anni?>too bad, Your Favorite E-Celeb said no so we had to nerf it
>>733639178hey it's how they balance WoW as well
>>733639062>>733639369It was a nerf by less than 1% you whiny faggots, although it should never have been nerfed in the first place
>>733639123>grail runI admire llama for forcing blizzard to add the chronicle feature, which will be promptly ignored by 99.9% of the player base and even less will actually complete itother than that he's a lukewarm fag, but at least his moderate popularity pushed blizzard to let some fresh air in D2 I guess
>>733639607Have they even fixed the chronicle wipe bug? I had about 25-30% progress when it got reset because I ID'd an item from a rack. Sure it doesn't matter because unless you get your mangs or tyrael's wiped, you'll get hundreds of everything else, but it's insane that bug even got through testing.
>>733637320How would you name a smiterasking for a friend>>733639178Apparently he and a few others are the reason why we got the warlockthe unfortunate side effect being his bitching gets heard before everyone else, another example being how he scoffed off the comment asking for WASD controls because he personally doesn't care
>>733639668>because he personally doesn't careSounds like he's an annoying retard.
>>733639668SmittyDaWhiteBoi
>>733631741>why don't they just change the classic game remaster into a completely new gameYou utter fucking fool
>>733639607>but at least his moderate popularityWhat's strange is seeing his youtube videos only get 20k views while complete randoms talking about the new patch get 200k views
>>733630535grim dawn mogs all of those anyway
>>733639178>>733639369If Blizzard hadn't listened to this eceleb there would be no patch and no new content.
>>733639879not that long ago he was pretty much the only dude consistently streaming d2r to a handful of people, now that d2r is back into spotlight some other talking heads took over
ehhhh
>every fucking build uses Insight and SpiritWhat the fuck is a non-ladder non-demake player gon do?
>>733630535>d2>have fun ability>use it until you run out of mana or it goes on cooldown>can stack energy to spam more>d3-4>have fun ability>have to spam a builder 5-15 times before you can use it>runs dry in 1-3 uses and/or goes on long cooldown>no variation>rinse and repeat
>>733639993play medianXL
>>733639913This but unironically.
>>733640018>builder abilities.It's such an ass concept that restricts the classes and gameplay. It's no wonder that D3/4 are basically the only arpgs that use it.
>>733640045i wasn't even a tiny bit ironic.grim dawn on a controller with all of the new updates they rolled out over the years is peak ARPG experience.
>>733639913>grim yawn
vroooooooom
>>733639972Enjoy ur angelic halo
>>733630535I don't like any Diablo-like ARPGs, the gameplay is dogwater simple that makes Musou games look like Souls-likes. Your screen fills with monsters, you hold down some attack/spell button and just flood the screen with damage and kill 100 of them, and the dungeon is over. No story, no characters that are compelling, and not even any difficulty or challenge to anything...t. actual unc
>>733640139>activate windows
>>733639918>there would be no patch and no new contentGood.
>>733640206>actual unc>dogwater
>>733640206>No story, no characters that are compellingI don't agree with that for Diablo 1 and 2. You shoving the soulstone into your head at the end of Diablo 1 is iconic
>>733640098Why is the new DLC taking so long anyway? It doesn't even have a Steam page yet.
>>733632218>Find a Legendary>No Legendary modifiers because this is release Diablo 3 so the item is just a glorified rare>Does not have your primary stat or it's a low as fuck roll
>>733640272Wow it's almost like there isn't a chip in my head that explodes if I use a word invented after 2008, or something. I'm glad you think you're some Nazi interrogator instead of a retarded imageboard chud, it's cute.>>733640306Admittedly I've never gotten more than 50% of the way through D1 or D2 before getting bored (never played D3 or D4 because I was firmly in the Fuck Blizzard camp by that point), but I can't even remember a single aspect of the plot, or a single character, for either game. All the enemies even blend together because you nuke them all so fast it doesn't even matter what the "tank" enemy is and what the "DPS" is, because they all fold instantly.
>>733631146
>>733640324bigger than the base game and last two expansions combined. so theres a lot of playtesting I guess. 1.3 is out soon with the new UI
>>733639993Funny thing our local llama slipped a line about the devs planning something for Spirit. Expect either a nerf to +1 skills or rune required change (I remember some mod changing one of the runes for shield version only to Mal, which slows you down considerably and limits rerolling for FCR). Frankly, good, that runeword is fucking ridiculous. I would remove at least vitality from it too, or reduce FHR, because Spirit currently has every relevant stat on it outside elemental damage% or resistance pierce%
>>733631741You can in theory make a better diablo game than diablo 2. However, you can't make a better Diablo 2 LoD game than Diablo 2 LoD, and no matter what Diablo game any hypothetical new or old dev team makes, what the Diablo 2 LoD addicts will want and play is a Diablo 2 LoD game, which is Diablo 2 LoD.
>>733631146No it fucking wasn't.
>found an other 4s monarchneat. now I can have a spirit in both weapon loadouts
>>733640206I understand how you feel, but I must say I'm getting tired of soulslikes. Even with the most broken builds, it feels like the player will always be weak and lame compared to the enemies. I just want action games to allow players to feel strong again, instead of being killed in a few hits by most enemies no matter what.
>>733640541Spirit has no fire res ergo it's dogshit quod erat demonstratumBut no, even though it's bullshit and invalidates 99% of other options by existing, I would prefer if nu-blizz had maintained their prior attitude to not nerfing ANY pre-d2r content. I'm fine that they nerfed sunder charms on cold sorc after release, I wish they had just oblitered mosaic entirely, and Warlock needs nerfs. But once they start nerfing the older items then we enter into full on live service territory. Dark patterns emerge.
>>733640624>then we enter into full on live service territoryWait, did you seriously think that has not been the plan from the very beginning?
>>733631146The game that notoriously had a bad launch and they had to spend years rehabbing it's image? That game?
>>733640683I mean...sure. But I'd like to at least have some slightly credible belief that we aren't sliding down that slope already.
>>733640710We are talking about ActiBlizz here, and-you know anon, say, I have a bunch of magic beans to sell, you interested?
>>733640596I was just using Soulslike for the > Musou comparison; as another form of ARPG, I'm not really a fan of their lacking storylines/characters either. But IMO if a game is gonna be piss easy (like D1/D2 were, for me), it better have a good story/characters/etc (like D1/D2 didn't, for me).
>>733640624>Warlock needs nerfsThey'd better not destroy him, considering he costs $25.
>>733640812I used to believe there was a dusty, forgotten corner janitorial closet where a bunch of autists came together to work on BW:R and D2R and managed to keep them faithfully updated without injecting modern actiblizz shit into them. And for a few years, all was good.Now though? I don't know. I'm enjoying the expansion but it definitely isn't worth the $25 dollar bill and feels like they're trying to turn the game into PoE.
>>733640434I don't believe you. It's not possible to start playing D1 or D2 and immediately blow up entire screens of enemies as any class, even sorceress.
>>733631146>error 37
>>733640434>a single aspect of the plot, or a single character, for either gameI don't believe that for Diablo 1 in particular. The whole setting of Tristram is iconic and the first conversations you have with NPCs is about the devastation of the town, the death of the King, the betrayal of the archbishop and the demons which have taken up residence in the cathedral. Griswald is memorable for his enthusiastic line delivery and Scottish accent and Adria for being isolated from the other villagers as the town Witch they don't trust. The butcher and skeleton king are so well known they appear in future Blizzard games and other games which are just referencing them. Most people will tell you about their first experience with the butcher, opening his door and the iconic "Ah, fresh meat!" line as you see this giant demon racing toward you with a meat cleaver and promptly slicing you to death. There's also all of the lore books in the Labyrinth which detail the prime evils and the sin war read in zealous sermon mannerism by Paul Eiding.As for Diablo 2 I think its cutscenes are probably the standout for its storytelling. For someone to say they don't remember Marius recounting the tale of his complete mental collapse to "Tyrael" I would find hard to believe.
>>733640624I would happily welcome +1 spirit shields. Also, buff rare shields, body armors and weapons in general, so they can actually roll something useful that isn't a 1 in a 1000000 rare drop that is almost as good as a mid-game runeword.
>>733640890Nigga the fact alone that they made this in the first place, when the OG is still played by enough autists to warrant a patch in the late 10s should have been evidence alone for what was going to come.That and literally everything else they have done in the past 15 or so years.
>>733640957Fag's obviously just lying. Nothing about what he's saying stands up to scrutiny>this game was so easy I just blew up everything with one button and didn't notice any differences in the enemiesOn the first playthrough on normal? What a badass lmao. Watch, he won't even remember what class he played.
>>733640886>Chaos skillsNerf fire skill damage by about 5-10%, reduce mana cost of fire nova, increase mana cost of apocalypse by 25%, fire wall also needs a touch upMiasma skills are...probably fine>DemonsThe tree is way too powerful as a side path for his other builds, but apparently too weak on its own? I dunno but slave hephaesto can effortlessly chunk anything and the fact that you get 2.4k life WITHOUT battle orders on top of 40-60% damage redirection is insane, dude is tankier than a barb while shitting out more damage than sorc or paladin>Echoing Strikelol, lmaoCleave is nice but they should just give barbarian an equivalent aoe to his skills, playing barb is pure suffering now. Also being able to equip 2h weapons like ondals or mangs on top of a shield is peak retardation. Bowazon is also crying in a corner and has been shit for 25 years and they either need to continue copying PoE by giving her a quiver slot, or just buffing the base damage of bows + scaling on her skills. Also more attack rating why the FUCK does bowazon have 60% hit rate even with raven frosts on
>>733631741i just realized i have been stat-dumping energy by accident on my warlock and not vitality. the lock is so strong that i havent put more than 5 points into vitality and i have easily made my way to act 2 hell.
>>733640932Definitely true of Diablo 1. Only Sorcerer can do that toward the end game can really do that with chain lightnings and flame walls. Warrior and Rogue (even Monk) would never be clearing screens with ease. In Diablo 2 most classes can start to do it from midgame onward.
>>733641090Are you just not getting hit?
>>733641078>Nerf by 5-10%That's not how devs nerf things. He will be nerfed into uselessness.>playing barb is pure suffering now>now
>>733641184Why do they hate the Barb so much?
>>733641182yes, essentially. abyss is an AoE crowd control that holds enemies in place temporarily and kills them very quickly (magic damage so almost nothing is immune to it)
>>733641219probably something along the line of>statistics show us that barb is in the top 3 played classes on b.netwhile somehow failing to understand the entire reason for that is because of BO barb slaves and horkers
>>733641223holy shit I need to play warlock
>>733641104I don't believe a new player on his first playthrough is going to activate a hammerdin, shockadin or effective sorceress of any element build. The absolute best case scenario is discovering how strong corpse explosion is, and the second best is fissure, but those don't let you clear bosses.Anyone who claims he can't remember anything about the game at all is just lying and hasn't played it.
How faggots play Paladin>hurr hammer go spinHow I play Paladin>He's casting the big lightning thing I better swap to my lightning resist aura!>woah he's charging me I'm gonna swap to my defiance aura!>I took some damage... better back up for a bit and swap to my meditation aura (+5 from prayer aura) and heal up a bit>now, his guard is down! I'm gonna attack him with my might aura! charge! vengeance strike! then bring him down with my powerful zeal attacks!>I hit level 30... now I can put the last skill points I saved into fanaticism, salvation, and fist of the heavens... my Build Is Complete
>>733641426Zealer is fun when you swap between all those things>fanaticism, sanctuary for undeads, redemption to heal and deal with resurrecting mobs, cleansing between fights to cure poison and curses, conversion and vengeance to deal with immunitiesbut then you realize you can just unga bunga spinny go spin for 1/100th the effort
>>733632218>overtunedskill issue>smash vasesnope, act 4 miniboss farming was the best at the start>RMAHfucking great. without bots this would've been perfect. selling farmed items for $250 was better than anything since >dogshit item designbetter than the slop that came after it. PoEs item design is also shit btw so I hope u dont consider that "good">>733632706skill issue, filtered
>>733641426>>733641580I hate hammers with a burning passion, but I love FoH
>>733640702rehabbing its image? you mean for the blizzbabies that need 400 legendaries per game session to feel good about themselves?the game now is embarrassing, and nobody plays it bc they catered to the absolute worst demographic in gaming. blizztoddlers
>>733641580You also never really get strong enough to clear hell if you spend that many points>weak vengeance without synergy resist aura and conviction>weak zeal without synergy sacrifice or smite for single target
>>733641870Yeah, it's more for level 85+ repeat playthroughs, but then you suffer all the normal issues like immunities and >being melee. Grief is your BiS but it doesn't actually play well with Vengeance because the flat damage doesn't get included in the calc.Also I don't know if they somehow nerfed Grief+Fortitude recently but it feels...weaker? Maybe it's just because Warlock still blows it out of the water.
>>733641638I'd love FoH more if it was full magic and got synergy from prayer instead of holy shock and was enhanced by sanctuary in the same way that concentrate enhances blessed hammer.Imagine 20 prayer, 20 holy bolt, 20 FoH, 20 sanctuary, 15 conversion. Kino cleric build.
>>733641325janky screenshot for proof. the lock is OP kek
Read Demonsbane last week out of boredom and there's a discreption of how the Vizjeri were almost wiped out by Bartuc because they tried to summon demons as troops and surprise surprise, the summoned demons slaughtered them wholesale despite the fact the Vizjeri outnumbered Bartuc's own minions. Only because they still had some pure elemental sorcerers around were they able to win at all.But yeah some guy with a book can just bind a blunderbore and make it fight Diablo, the Lord of Terror, one of the Prime Evils, Survivor of the Dark Exile, Leader of the Three and Destroyer of Souls. Totally.
D3 Crusader > D2 Paladin
>>733642028My paladin wishlist in general>Might AuraSynergy from Sacrifice for more damage and +1% crushing blow per point>Blessed Aim+critical strike or deadly strike>ConcentrationLower physical damage but +2% magic damage per point (+1% above 20), maybe up to 20% FCR >SanctuaryDamages everything, lowers magic resistance>ZealSynergy from Conversion to deal bonus magic damage >VengeanceSplash elemental damage >ConversionReduces enemy magic resistance (useful against strong single targets)Specific humanoid enemies like corrupted rouges, A2 cats and raiders, A3 humans, and so on, can be fully converted like Bind Demon>Charge Splash physical damage>FoHSynergy from Holy Shock now also causes a lightning nova effect (range increases every 5 points)Tyrael's Might is now also a big boy armor with +3 all skills, resistances replaced with lv1 Salvation aura, and 'Holy Bolts Damage All Targets' mod
>>733642986Ok but you're basically describing a melee amazon.
>>733643075imagine if amazon had more than one actual build (lightning fury)
>attack ratingdogshit stat that ruins melee characters
>>733642883It would be if it wasn't for fucking Akarat being the only "skill" that matters.
>>733643148don't worry, it also equally fucks over bowazon and to a lesser extent throw barb
>>733643176barb is barely a class anymore, true on bowazon
>>733642986>like corrupted rougesAnon... they're too far gone. You'd have more luck perma-converting the high council members.
>>733643319I can make it work.
>>733632218>pay to win real money auction houseYou know you can enjoy high level play without wanting to farm equipment, right? Skill expression is much more rewarding than extrinsic motivation (getting things). It's not as if D3 PvP was relevant, despite PvP games being the most popular and hours-played.
>>733640624Yeah, Mosaic should be obliterated on existing items as well.
I usually roll sorc, but I am playing amazon this time instead. Currently in nightmare act 4 and yeah my entire inventory is just mana pots because I throw 4 lightning spears and am oom lol. For all of it's faults, I do I have to commend blizzard for making resource usage more interesting in D4.
>>733643319Serves them right for leaving the matriarchial utopia of Skovos just because of lust for BKC (Big Khanduran Cock)
>>733643705Get some tirs
>>733643705Are you playing ladder?
>>733641078Yea, I wish Bowazon was viable. I loved raining arrows upon enemies, but what worth does it have when Javazon just completely destroys everything.
>>733643705>I spammed my most powerful ability and I'm out of mana! How could this happen?You're supposed to open with a lightning fury attack then follow it up with a sequence of charged strikes then finish the stragglers off in a powerful "power" strike in order to defeat the enemy demon hordes. This is known as "skill expression".
I wish I could just play Warrior in D2>just play Paladin or Barbarian with no skill points and no rares and walk always onIt's not the same.
>>733632658>spyro demakesYou aren't helping your case.
>>733643705Have fun in Hell when every other mob is immune to you
>>733644480It's all starting to make sense.....
>>733642620Diablo is a bitch because he took over the body of a cuckold who thought slamming a soulstone into his forehead will make him look cool. He never got to fuck, always watched others get fucked, including his family. This is why the Diablo you fight in II is in his megacuck form.
>>733642986Isn't Tyrael's Might like, the rarest item?
>>733640325>zomg I wish this had main stat + vitality and + all res on itwhat a sad game that was
>>733631146Going to kill all zoomers with a rock
>>733645081>overpowers u>shadowcharges u into a wall>rapes unothing personell, minion
>>733635828no dumbass, the lack of mana pot was dog shit.
>>733645135Yeah, and it's shit.
D2R diablo's lightning looks like a piss streamLoD is superior
>>733645381Makes sense, since D3 revealed that Tyrael is a bitch and his items are shit. His sword is useless even against the big bad Reaper of Sovls.
>>733640573>addictsPretty much self-explanatory.
>>733638347Diablo 2 had cooldowns from the start though
>>733630535builder skills and spender skills are inherently worse than everything having a cost and using potions or item affixes or stat points to curb costs
>>733631146actually true for inferno. game required some semblance of mechanic skill to beat.
>>733644012Retarded larp
>>733631146Aren't you thankful?!
>>733645817That's because they wanted players to buy stuff from the RMAH.
Diablo 3 > Diablo 2 because you can get addicted to making money playing Diablo 3 and as we all know there's nothing bigger dick than making big dick money while being addicted to making big dick money. You know it I know it everybody know it.
>>733646825I wonder if the game would have survived longer if they left in the gold auction house and just removed the real money one
>>733635718Wrong. It's D2 > D4 > D1 > D3
>>733647363D3 > D4 > D1 > D2
Oh yeah but how is D4 a real RPG if it doesn't even let you pay child support to your pregnant witch wife?
>>733630535This unc is wearing a onesie furry suit coupled with a diaper and a 24h non stop ambient piano mix to combat cortisol spikes whilst eating goyslop while being carried by his community to 99 and you're laughing?! Have some respect
>>733647363D3>D1>D2>>>>>>>D4
>>733640139https://massgrave.dev/
>>733635828what resource management?>enter game>go to some map>fire a spell or something>a fuckton of pots drop
>>733639918Good, fuck new content. D2 was fine as is.
>>733647783>D2 was fineUntil 1.09.
Does anyone remember what the playerbase was even like in 1.10? Was it already like everyone was in Hell doing uber runs and farming Ber runes or did most people still kind of just play nightmare? My memory is really hazy I was only 11 at the time.
>>733630535bait
Opinion on Summonlock? Good for HC?
>>733648658can tp them through walls which is good
>>733648658High lvl and the right minion can solo uber ancients and Ubers, might need a little dps help with crushing blow from Merc on like baal or whoever it was Only tested with hephasto cursed fanatWith defilers can run around and one tap things in p8You get the high damage reduce going to minion with it tooMight do the afk demon to lvl indefinitely But maybe echoing is that much faster idk
are there any super unique monsters in nightmare with aura enchanted? i want to bind one before reaching hell
>>733649065why super unique specifically?
D4 >> MedianXL >>> D3 = D1 >>>>>>>>>> D2R >>>>>>> D2
>>733650078PD2 > MedianXL
>>733649971they are reproducible at the same location
>>733650108i freaking hate you project niggas
>people still play Diablo 3
>>733650180it's fun, d3 monk is pretty unique
>>733631146I actually really liked the first part of D3. I liked that legendaries were rare, I liked the idea of enrage timers, and I liked that it was overall harder and slower. But sadly the IsoARPG playerbase abhor any sort of resistance so they just want to instazoom and instakill screens 24/7 like Path of Excrement.Now I'm not saying D3 is worse now than before, I don't care either way, simply stating I did and still do appreciate some of what was present at the beginning. And it isn't rose-tinted, I specifically liked it then too.
>>733650114if you don't mind the ai and abilities then the a3 council in trav is probably the easiest aura farm spotalways the same, short distance from wp and multiple of them
3 was my first diablo, only picked it up after the paladin had been added so didn't get to see how bad it was at launch4 was my second, didn't rate it much initially but now its perfect for me because much like 3 you can skip the story, the new paragon system is fun and masterworking gear is a pretty good endgame activityOnly played 2 remaster. Its ok but i can never got properly stuck in, the beginning is very boring and the stamina bar is a bigger obstacle than any enemy
>>733641605>enemy has 1milhp and does 300k damage per attack>player has 200k HP and does 1000dps>skill issueyou're retarded>i-it's good without bots! but there were bots. moot point.>items were better than what came after themoh man the solid poop was better than the diarrhea, wow what a good game.fuck off. D3 was shit from the start.
>>7336369781.10 made so many builds viable. the summonmancer is worth it alone
You’re 32.>>733631146It’s still the only playable Diablo game. I hope they keep releasing seasons until the end of time because it’s the best one. D4 is fucking trash and D2 is boring. I didn’t play Diablo 1 because I’m not 57 years old. Diablo 3 has the best combat out of all the games therefore it’s the best. Rifts are actually challenging and leaderboards are fun. It’s not up for debate.
>>733650927D4 is a copy of D3.D3 was obviously your first diablo.
>>733650927I still miss delsere giving bubble dpswish they went more skill changing with sets than 60,000% increased damage
>>733630691Boomers are fucking retarded, they cant understand that there are things that are better than their limited shitty childhood games. They only get more annoying and worthless as they get older, my 40 year old uncle loves to talk down on new games but plays fucking diablo
>>733633463>uncs be like "yo this gameplay fire"
>>733651114your uncle remembers playing gamesyou remember watching others play games
>>733650867Only if you play at the casual cuck level. Real men know that real gameplay only starts when you get your enigma and double spirits and insight on your merc and do travincal runs with your hammerdin because that IS THE GAME and if you arent doing that then you are NOT PLAYING THE GAME and all other builds are NOT PLAYIYNTGOERWTJLV RJ
>>733651540lmao he played millions of hours of slop to be a fucking janitor, i play plenty of games but i actually had intelligence to get a career and enjoy my AAA kino. Fuck unc, old people are stupid as fuck and ill agree to put his as in a home so i can take his house.
>>733651540truly the generation of emasculated cuckolds since they love to watch anyone else play their favorite vidyas
>>7336305352>4>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being japanese>>>>>>>>>>>>>cutting my penis off>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing pokemon>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3
At least LARP is something that never gets old.
>>733630535Of course, even when I was young, the older cardshop owner in my local town at that time was playing it.What people play now is not an APRG, but these roguelite spam games like Hades. ARPG is strategy, tactics, movement. Modern stuff is just very spammy which makes sense for Zoomers.
>>733651856>3 (dead)heh
D3 was ass. Why is /v/ defending the always-online scam now
>>733648658it goes through everything, slowly but surely, better than necro because pseudoteleport and teleporting demons you can resummon at will, solid for ssf hc>>733649014demon + defiler + blood boil is really not that far behind echo but in the end clearspeed is all that matters in d2afaik current bind demon meta is a5 spearwoman but cba to farm one to check if its that much better
>>733652253Summer children who are trying to fit in here
>>733637743>dude all you need is rare runes it's no big dealYou're why the game is miserable until you have a character grinding in hell mode.
>>733639062>Same with the sunder charms drop, which are now as rare as winning the lottery.It's an endgame hell drop that makes farming hell slightly less bullshit for element based characters. Why in god's green earth would they nerf the drop rate on that?
I'm at hell CUNTessWhat do I farm to make Emilio not die all the fucking time
>>733640541>Frankly, good, that runeword is fucking ridiculous. IIf by ridiculous you mean it's the only way to get your damn foot in the farming door, sure. Diablo 2 is already unforgivable with how hard it is to get a character that can survive hell for a little while. Blizzard needs to fuck off.
>>733651651you get spirit and insight for fun before you even get to hell. you will statistically never get an enigma
>>733632218>the best way to get gear was to smash vases on the hardest difficulty because mobs were too hardBut doing Player 8 Hell Lower Kurast super chest runs was okay?
>>733653318defenseresistslife leech
>>733630535>Do uncs really think that Diablo 2 is better than 3 and 4?nah, but I think the original diablo is better then all of them
>>733651804>my AAA kinowoke slop filled with MTXlmao'unc' is a badge of honor at this point.
>>733652863These scrubs didn’t kill Belial on Hardcore mode while leveling in Torment mode and it shows They need their hands held while they ride a cosmetic mount to a world boss ans click one button for 30 seconds and then do emotes while the nigger quest giver tells them to collect berries in the swamp
>>733630535
>uncplease don't stop talking like a retard, announce it always
>>733653318Ditch the sandnigger and get yourself an act1 Kyoko
is trying to sell tal rasha helm for a white monarch stupid? i always hated trading in d2 cause there's no established currency so everything is just retarded and you never know what anything is worth
>>733648208people got rushed at level 1 to hell cows then leveled up doing cow games all the time.after the rework to how you advance through the acts people did sewer runs and arcane sanctuary runs for a bit before coming to the current meta of trist runs + tombs before being rushed to baal to do norm baal runs until you were high enough for NM baal runs.
day 2 of me and wendy farming for a monarch in hell mausoleum, no luck yet. found a raven frost though
>>733657025before ladder I found one on my way to countess. phaet was almost high enough level to wear it then ladder reset happened
FUCKoff by one
>>7336305352 is still in my top 10 best games ever made nigga.
I refuse to believe the grognards have an issue with terror zones conceptually.
is online fun
>>733658194I dunno I don't play with randos.
>>733653657>you will statistically never get an enigmaI've played this game for hundreds of hours across 20 years and I've never had an enigma lol
>>733658194It's fun at first, but I eventually realized that I was trading more than playing.
>>733651651>still rocking a Spirit weapon by the time you get Enigma???
>>733658069Conceptually no, it's a good idea since typically nightmare drops are only good for normal mode like how I keep getting fucking ceglaws, angels and cathans sets all the way to NM Baal. The terror zones give you a chance to actually prepare for Hell.But in reality I haven't gotten a damn thing from them in over 20 hours.
I wish with the level requirement increase from upping set/unique bases I wish they'd also get an enhanced damage/defense buff
>>733651540>you remember watching others play gamesenough about millennials who invented lets plays.
>>733659221Diablo giveth and Diablo taketh away
>>733659369I wish Blizzard would make a good decision for once too.
D2 is an excellent microcosm of any economy. As soon as any player gets a lot of value, they start complaining it's not hard enough to get it. They no longer have to work so hard, so by keeping those rare pieces and making them harder to obtain their value skyrockets.
>>733630535The game is made to make Smart choices not to spam and teleport like a spastic, i played it with above average equipment and it's funnier/more rewarding
>>733659060Enigma seems pretty high priority. Why would you prioritize a weapon over that?
>>733651981he says while posting the class that spams teleport and frozen orb
>>733653858lower kurast was a choice, vase smashing was a necessity
>>733657521geee this resolution dude wtf
>>733655859are we talking about the playerbase in general or the "people" who were there then and are still "playing" the game now?
>>733660309meme resolution(4K)
>>733630535I lol at youngsters thinking unc is a good insult. I find it really charming
They should seriously thin the drop pools and take away all those useless low level set items from higher difficulties.
>>733639123It was not nerfed, it was fixed because it was bugged all this time.
I don't think I've ever done any actual trading in D2, just swapping stuff between friends while we go through the campaign. I don't even know what stats are desirable on gear for trades outside of stuff like resistances or + to skills
>>733660748It hasn't been fixed, it's still bugged in that they recognize it's a problem and haven't yet touched it.
>>733660910It's still a fix even if the fix is not successful.
>>733659060>found three Los in the last few days>closest to Vex is a single Mal and IstRune drops are a funny thing
>>733661021And literally seconds after that post
>>733661021Where'd you get your Lo? I need one for a merc armor so I'm not spending a fortune reviving mine.
>>733661204I did a few full game TZ clears. Decent for runes and infinitely more fun than running LK for 12 hours.
>>733661283That's my plan after work too. My sorc needs some work so I'll be terror zoning with my elemental druid for runes and hopefully a sunder.
>>733661342Good luck with that, in those two full clears I only got a single sunder charm, then you have to pray you land the 1/6 chance that it's the right element. I had some holdover sunder charms from before the patch so they're helping a lot.
>>733661469I play online so at the very least I have the hopes of trading charms right? Also seems weird they drop your own resistances.
>>733630616Next you're going to pretend that 6x4 stash was better as well
>>733660130Because by the time you find or trade up to Ber + Jah, you should easily find something better than Spirit, or Vex for HotO
>>733660186Both which require direction and situational awareness as well as strategy to not teleport into a group of mobs, movement, engagement. If your spamming it, you're doing it wrong.
To me Grim Dawn is more of a spiritual successor to D2 than PoE ever was.
>>733661198How's that archon plate looking?
>>733661834Yeah, but it's not like there are really any steps between a good spirit and hoto. And the sooner you get Enigma, the faster your farming goes anyways.
>>733662949Trash 1os :^)
>do X uncs really Xanyone who posts these dogshit threads should be fucking fed to wolves
>>733663352frfr no cap
>>733630616this is clearly someone using the cheat to start at level 31, trust me I'm expert
>>733663352it's the same people that post the x made y piss and shit themselves basically people with nothing worthwhile to say that still want attention
>>733630535Yes uncs always think old game good new game bad.
>+20T-thanks...
>>733630535I played the Diablo 1 demo back in the day, the Sorcerer was called Sorceror BTW.You're right, the mana system was trash. A lot of the building was focused on eliminating the need to mana pots, which is the sign of a badly designed mechanic.D3/D4 is not that much better because I think having boring spam abilities that exist only to recover mana not that much of a better solution, unless those spammy abilities also serve another purpose, like triggering other skills, etc.
is there something fucky about warlock's mana regen? it seems worse than all the others
>>733667339Is that why every warlock I party with scarf those things off the ground with every step?
Yooo check out what stareye the bitch just dropped for meToo bad it's worse than my sword, and my OTHER sword.
>start paladin>no fast lvling guide>pick what sounds fun>slowly walking and wacking stuff, burning them and sometimes shooting a holy bolt when they're all lined upbrosi wish deep down wasn't canned
>>7336674952 c.skull hat2 c.skull armorlenymoit's low level, that's 62% regen mana, yet i'm always out, and waiting doesn't seem to get anything back, unlike the other classes. just seems like he has nerfed or dead mana regen as a class feature or something
>>733667690Just chug pots like a normal person. All classes have shitty natural regen until you get points in Energy or Warmth in Sorc.
>>733661728With no runes in the game it's about the same.
>>733638314You didn't beat the gameUsing a mercenary is basically like summoning mimic tear in Elden Ring
>>733638737How's Diablo 2 with a controller?I just assumed it's really shit so I never tried it
>>733668120Really shit
>>733668120Better than m+kb but it takes a bit to get used itsome hotkey heavy builds are hard to play
>>733663352Dude he people that use "unc" on /v/ are middle aged men that think "they still got it"
>>733667823Have been.usually 4 chippies is enough regen to float until L10-15 when i can move into actual gear, it's what I level new characters with every time. and lock feels worse on the mana regen. gonna test with high energy lock vs high vit lock i think, but it feels worse than usual. i don't usually need to pot this much.
>>733643319>Diablo 1 Blood Knights>Diablo 1 Mage Advocates>Diablo 2 Corrupted RoguesYep, it's kino enemy design.
>>733668501Zoomcucks just can't own up to anything, can they?
>>733668364>Better than m+kb
>>733632432You could get your account stolen even with 2fa, yeah.
>>733668567Mana regen is always a % of max mana, it takes roughly 2 minutes for any class to regen from 0 to full with no modifiers. Insight raises your mana regen by an additional 575% to 700% depending on roll. Mana regen might as well not exist until you get insight or are playing sorc with warmth. Other sources of % regen are fairly rare, but fortunately warlock is so busted you can just pump energy up to 70-80 early and not suffer. His regen isn't different from others, he just has higher mana costs, particularly on fire nova.
>>733668971>higher mana costsThat's likely it. Even the "mana after kill" isn't helping much, and mana regen shrines only bring it up to 1/sec or so. Need to stop juicing abilities so early probably.
>be whirlwind barb>have to fight through skellingtons to get to whatever I'm farming >they can't be leechedGenuinely my biggest enemy in the fucking game. I have to bait them into packs of fleshcels just to scrape some mana crumbs so I can sustain.
>>733669082Just get a tir tir helm and a stealth early. Those two items nearly solve your mana issues as long as you've got some energy. While you're at it, get a Leaf staff for more +fire skills and an extra 2 mana on kill so now you're up to 6 mana per kill which is more than enough.
diablo 2 is fun until you start learning the meta and how utterly broken endgame is. ignoring energy and just constantly chugging potions for mana is so stupid.
>>733669313What would happen to the playerbase if they made Energy a genuinely useful stat to pump, if even just a bit?
>>733669313thisyou're supposed to go through the utter noob phase and the two early learning phases as a natural progressionthe instant you find out how to play the actual game, you either get addicted to one of the worst things in gaming before gachas or you are forced to move on with your life and can't really have fun with diablo 2 again
>>733630535You'd figure it out if you didn't have zoomie IQ
>>733668364Nigga how is it better than m&kb then?
>>733669381It's too late to do it now but if energy was a prerequisite for leveling up skills past level 1 and insight didnt fucking exist at all, it would be good game design. But it wouldn't be diablo 2 as diablo 2 and it wouldn't feed the diablo 2 addiction, so why do anything other than what diablo 2 does because diablo 2 is the best thing since diablo 2? Oooh is that a Ber rune!? Oh my god! I want the Ber rune for my ENIGMA LOOOOL
>>733669381>double base mana regen>cut insight in half>energy also gives an additional 0.25% to mana regen rate per point (stacking with the extra increase you get from just having more mana pool)I said earlier I don't want core changes to the game as it was 20 years ago but honestly I would be fine with this one, it would be nice to have options for mercenaries that weren't just getting the a2 guy and slapping insight on him as soon as you get the runes for it.
Any interesting demons to try binding other than Hephasto and Lister? So far I've discovered that demon rogue archers with multiple shots do really bad damage. Maybe if you could get multiple shots, cursed and fanaticism somehow on the same demon but it might be that their base damage is too low.I also tried out some of the succubi variants but their projectiles similarly don't seem to do that much damage. Their AI is interesting in that if you death mark them next to an enemy they will melee but otherwise they will fire projectiles. If there were a succubi that didn't fire projectiles they could be good but I think they all do it.Shamans from act 1 and 3 will raise their kind which is funny but not all that useful. I don't think the raised minions benefit from any of your skills.
>>733657025I reckon the best place to get one is the Cow level
>>733669805Have you tried a grotesque mother? Would be funny to just spam the whole game with her flesh spawn. You can also pretend she's your tard wife
>>733669750Ber deez nuts >>733669776I do appreciate that they did try to make the other mercs somewhat viable, like apparently a5 barb mercs can be fucking nasty if kitted properly but nothing will beat out the a2 aurabot.
>>733669776what if energy boosted magical skill damage similar to how str and dex do physical. it wouldn't be a major increase but it would be an increase
>>733669805My friend binded The Smith in Nightmare and it was pretty fucking beefy, he rolled cold enchanted in addition to his extra strong.
>>733669920Oh and the a3 fire merc w/ enchant actually is kind of nice in nightmare since you get a decent AR bonus and a little extra damage, plus being a caster and not getting raped in melee is nice.
>>733670102>get a decent AR bonusIf you're playing a noncaster you've already lost. Might as well uninstall cause you're trolling like a turtle tortoise.
>>733670167I'm playing a Barb :(
>>733670220respec to AUH AUAUW! RAAAH! WAAAUGH!
>>733670279Of course I'm using warcries I'm not retarded.
>>733669943It could be nice but it'd need to be a very tiny amount. Energy Shield Nova Sorc is already a really good build, and even something small like 0.1% more damage per point would make it S++ tier, probably beating out even warlock and mosaic sin. You could have a non-linear formula to get around super high energy builds but I prefer simplicity in design. Really, any change to energy would make Sorc, already one of the best classes, all around better...so the entire class would need to be rebalanced from the ground up.
>>733669653You have 11 keybinds,12 if you count the interact buttonThe one i had issue playing was mosaic but that might've been me being a shitteryou don't rape your wrist/fingers and every button is closerBUTI forgot i had modded out the retarded tooltip delay, so if you're console only that's a downside, on pc you can just swap to kb and move items with that insteadGive it a try if you have controller laying around
Imagine if in multiplayer mobs attack rating grew so exponentially you actually needed a defense-maxxed defiance paladin or concentrate barbarian in order to survive melee mobs and tank bosses
>>733669313>ignoring energy and just constantly chugging potions for mana is so stupid.you can invest in energy and respec later
>Mana steal Finally, some good fucking loot.
>>733669920They made it so you can put insight on bows as well, so a1 mercs aren't the worst...but they still pale compared to a2 because they don't have any auras and won't meatshield for you. Situationally useful for some classes but still as a whole worse.I tried a3 and even with the buffs it's a whole lot of nonsense. Fun, but dogshit.A5 mercs are cool as hell and you can slap some discount gear on them like Sazabi set and have them go to town. Pretty good even, but once again they just aren't a2. Same old story.
game shouldn't have respecstop playing builds that are only viable in endgame faggots
>>733670796Exponential defense requirements is the reason why you can have 80k armor + 50k evasion and 90% res cap in PoE and still instantly die to shit
>>733670809NO I HAVE TO BE MANA STARVED ALL THE WAY INTO HELL
>>733640325>>733645156
>>733670939But you can have extremely high armor in D2 as well, there's just no need for it whatsoever. Don't you think that underutilizes the game content?
>>733671101sadly this chart is now applicable to most of the new stuff they've added in d2r
>>733650363>I liked that legendaries were rare, I liked the idea of enrage timers, and I liked that it was overall harder and slower. But sadly the IsoARPG playerbase abhor any sort of resistanceI didn't mind those parts. The issue was in my opinion itemization and skill balance. I played a demon hunter and my build got entirely ruined by a nerf and I didn't really have any solution for playing on inferno after that. I couldn't build or itemize to survive and I couldn't even farm inferno act 1 for new gear. It bricked that character and actual buffs and fixes came long after I had quit. Should be noted that D3 happened prior to PoE taking off and PoE back then wasn't even a screen melting simulator. I think that sort of mentality was largely fostered by PoE and further updates to D3 RoS.
>>733643319Holy shit they are ugly
>>733657025not even a low quality monarch?
>>733671101This shitty infographic can be disregarded because it features the barbarian as a playable class for diablo 2, when in reality we know you can't actually play a barbarian
>>733671431not even one. i gave up and am moving through he acts instead so i can just farm cows
>>733671143I think it's okay for a game to have an upper limit on how much raw stat you need for all content.
played for years but new to the "endgame" here (just beat hell for the first time), is there a specific place to farm the best charms?
>>733670761you can bind 16 on keyboard
>>733671101simply put shitting loot out like its 1999 is not a good thing
>>733671623But there's no reason as is to build a concentrate shout barbarian. Why are those skills in the game?
how are you suppose to solo hell when there enemies that a straight up immune to magic?
some guy in a thread yesterday said skele mages were buffed, but basically every reddit/forum post says they're still shit. what's the verdict on em here? I was thinking of going 20 warriors, 20 skele mastery, 20 revive and filling out the rest with curses and a few levels of CE
>>733631146They hate him because he spoke the truth, vanilla diablo 3 was crazy fun and actually hard, the only bad thing is demon hunter was leagues better than everyone else.
>>733671784immune to magic damage is not the same as immune to spells
>>733670728that makes sense. if I could enable such a thing and give it a try I'd probably make it simple like a flat small % increase, but cap it differently for certain classes with sorc being the lowest cap since she would get such a larger buff from it
>>733671632>charmsI would suggest you just play the game and let them slowly accumulate. If you really want to target farm charms, go do lower kurast runs for a few hours, it gives you charms, runes, gems, jewels, and sometimes some other goodies. You won't get the highest level charms but it gives you skillers and some small charms with life/res if you're lucky. It's not really important until you get to ultra min-max lategame anyways. The unique charms like gheeds, sunder charms, torch, anni are all acquired by different means. You won't find them in lower kurast, you need to actually do stuff. Gheeds drops as a normal random unique, sunders have to be acquired in terror zones, torch is from doing Ubers, and Anni is by getting a Stone of Jordan and selling it to spawn Diablo Clone.
>>733671724I mean shout is just a really good warcry in general even if there is a hard upper cap.
>>733671871>I would suggest you just play the game and let them slowly accumulate.fair enough, thanks, i just wasn't sure if there was a certain place people hit up to find +skill charms and shit
Is Diablo 2 Reimagined any good
>>733671978I think outside of LK, the optimal place to farm them is actually nightmare cows? However when you do NM cows you cuck yourself out of any other high tier loot, you won't get high runes or good eth bases, and the charms themselves won't have high ilevel mods. If you get a skiller with +40 life then you're set, but I think the most you can get in NM is ~30? And that's very rare.
>>733671798if they're anything like "buffed" druid summons they're still shit
>>733671101why would I recognize oculus and lidless if I can just get a spirit and a spirit LAOWL
>>733671371demon hunter was able to farm inferno a3 with bliz/hydra sorc, rest were stuck in a1 or 2, dh was best after launch by far>>733650363so you liked bad game mechanics that blizzard did specifically to prop their rmah to milk some cash from players and that made most people hate d3 so much that they didnt look back even when blizz fixed it
>>733630535Yes it’s way better. Drink a potion nigga.
havent played warlock yet, do any of the npcs have unique dialogue for him? like how kashya will notice amazon etc
>>733672162look man I just like having all my wolves and the bear out okay let me have this I waited 20 years for this
>>733652962you can use skulls too those drop like candy
>>733672316No, but he has the dialogue when you enter areas/kill bosses.
>>733672237normies were filtered out by laggy launch, normies hated d3 because it wasn't d2 and would've hated it even if it was good
>>733672316yeah they dug up the old VA's and deaged them to sound the same just for a few new lines
Just make staves and wands have a energy requirement like how swords and axes require str/dex. There I fixed your game
>>733672327play pd2 or pod I don't know which one has it better but either of them should be less miserable than d2r druid summoner
>>733672501i wouldn't put it past blizzard to AI it
>>733672590probably simpler with california laws to just hire an impersonator
I suppose teleportation could have been something more useful but I ain't gonna complain for finding cursed and fana on the same spear bitch. She better slap.
>>733671632I was looking at this yesterdaythe 5 all res 7% Magic Find charms are ilvl61, so if you want to minmax your chance to get those two you farm NM Crystalline Passage/Frozen River/Glacial Trail/Drifter Cavern; If they drop from rare/magic monsters they're ilvl64Ghost enemies don't drop armor/weapons, so any spot with a shitload of them is goodStill, it's better to just play in Hell and ID all the one you find
>>733669805>interestingcorrupted spearwomen sometime use jab that is 3 attacks so they can attack faster than other demons that have quite long delay between attacks, only worth it only if you want to make your demon do most damage because they are hard to farm and demons damage is quite inconsequential for most endgame builds like echo, apoc or blood boil
>>733672237I don't know how the balance shifted after some patches but I wasn't able to farm shit after that nerf. Whatever they did it was too little too late. Even after RoS they never bothered to go back and fix a bunch of the skills and runes that were eternally shit. Instead they went the retarded legendary powers giving 50000% damage path.
>>733672945as far as I remember dh was best after launch by far and very favoured for the most of the time I played, before and after ros, basically if you think you had it bad, then know that monk, barb and wd were way worse, sorc was slighly behind dh (ignoring exploits)>>733672385show me where did normie touch you
>>733630535Better than 3? Easily.Betrter than 4? I'll answer that when it gets a Switch 1 port, an offline mode or a working server emulator.
>>733639913The only thing that grim yawn mogs is interesting and fun gameplay.
>>733662512I agree about GD. It was very much what a modern D2 could have been. Or what D3 should have been if they had kept a similar design methodology and it wasn't dumbed down for console release. Definitely not a perfect game but overall it was definitely the closest thing to a real successor to D2. Torchlight 2 wanted to be that but was also over simplified in certain aspects by comparison even if it did manage to add some decent stuff.
>>733633463>ice arrowpffffftahahahahahaha
>>733672770Can confirm that jab seems to work alright. My merc is still struggling to survive but fana+might+amplify on Baal made him melt to the spearwoman. Night and day difference compared to my old melee rogue demon without a spear though he also didn't have cursed so there's more variables at play.t. >>733672746
SEE?! SEE what I mean!? It's Grim YAWN because the items don't make the same sounds when you identify them so it doesn't give the DOPAMINE and the enemies don't POP when you hit them with FROZEN ORB and you don't ENIGMA so you can't get the EXCITEMENT, therefore it's BORRRRRIng, Yaaaaaaawn!
>>733674712game feel is a serious issue in grim dawn and the reason why the game sucks tbqh
it's so sad that diablo died from nigma
>>733674763It has an older game design sensibility which is probably what puts a lot of people off it. In that it starts really slow and a lot of the features only get unlocked with game progression. I don't really fault people that try the first act and give up on it thinking the rest of the game will be like that. It is also significantly more tolerable overall if you play it with a 5x XP modifier so you can build your classes at a better pace.
>>733630535>running into mana issues in D2How are zoomers so retarded and unable to deal with resource management
>>733674998>It has an older game design sensibility which is probably what puts a lot of people off it. In that it starts really slow and a lot of the features only get unlocked with game progression.that's got nothing to do with game feel
>>733672501Michael McConnohie still voices regularly for Blizzard and basically has the same voice, he could've come back as Warriv.
>>733630535It's called mana steal and the dirt cheap insight runeword.
>>733674998But Act 1 is the best one
>>733631146This is bait, D3 was dog shit all the way to the end of life.
>>733675339did warriv ever have any class specific lines?
>>733630535Diablo 2 is the best Diablo 2All other Diablo 2 clones aren't a good Diablo 2They should do better games on their own
>>733675651Yes, for Paladin in Act 1.
>>733630651It's mindnumblingly basic.
>>733676447>mindnumblinglyBut enough about hammerdin
>>733630691Your fucking moron
>>733674763This. There’s barely any weight or oomph to the skills. Mobs getting ragdolled on death doesn’t help either
>>733631146This, d3 up until the start of the RoS expansion was peak.Legendaries were rare and the game was actually challenging.And I like the RMAH, playing the game for fun and making money was the shit, imagine if we had something like that today.>b-but people could p2w in a pretty much single player gamedon't careAnd yeah I killed Diablo on hardcore before nerfs
>>733631146>>733676860Oh my god kill yourselves
are skill grand charms even worth clogging your inventory with over life small charms?
>>733630535>play the game poorly>'waaah why is the game bad'honestly i dont think your parents would miss you.
>>733676860>And I like the RMAH, playing the game for fun and making money was the shitproof you actually made money?
>>733677327Why would 60 life at most be worth more than +1 to an entire skill tree?
>>733676779Ragdolls in arpgs are great, it's one of the few things I liked about D3.
>>733677726>already pop everything in one hit>only thing that can slow your run is dying or needing to retreathmm i wonder
>>733630616I'm old enough to remember the "stamina" pots that only repleneshed them, instead of giving you infinite stamina for a while
I fucking hate the charm system dog.
>>733631146I like it purely because I found a legendary item I sold for $5Making money from playing a game was crazy to lil kid me
>>733678064>pop everything in 1 hit>doesn't carry ful rejuvsok
What a bitch
>>733679417how does your shit look so crisp and high detail? mine looks like crap?
>>733630535My favorite Diablo is 3
Is everyone on Steam playing ladder/non-ladder or offline singleplayer?
>>733679675everything on very high, TAA anti aliasing, sharpening on 6
>>733679736i'm playing offline, dont like the idea of playing with latency even if it is minimal these daysmight go online if my fren picks the game up though
>>733631146The worst part is that it's IMPOSSIBLE to play that version ever again. Even without the auction house. Release diablo 3 is dead and can never be experienced again.
>>733666004kek
>>733630535To me it's diablo 1 > diablo 2 > diablo 3 > diablo 4. Diablo 2 is still also fun though, and 3 was playable.
>>733668120It's not too bad unless you have a packed inventory. They really needed to add a QoL feature that automatically makes things you pick up get stashed in the horadric cube.
>>733680109you can bind a button on controller to "pick up to cube", its in the general skills tab
>>733668120in my experience works really well and is a ton of fun with melee builds, not so much on builds that want you to target specific enemies or points on the floor like blizz sorcteleport only goes a set distance too (shorter than kbm)
>>733680162Oh man lol, I am a retard. Well in that case I feel like the controller is pretty much GOAT. It's a pretty comfy way to play.
>>733679931wasn't it cracked for offline? I seem to remember a project like that back then
Since I'm not going to give Blizz 60 fucking dollarydoos for this shit but need to scratch the skinner box itch, should I dig out my old D2 discs and try out MedianXL or just do another run of Grim Dawn?
>>733680572>MedianXLewif you're gonna play modded do project diablo 2 or path of diablo
>>733677561Somebody botted and made seven figures. Making real money by trading in-game is the #1 innovation in gaming.
>>733668120Shit but in very uncommon ways. You cant area target spells and you are beholden to the autoaim on what badguy you shoot.
>>733679931Seriously?
>>733672028Controller support, thats about it.
>>733673828What about Titan Quest?
>>733672028Very good
>>733680737Why do people dislike MedianXL? I haven't been able to get a straight answer for that. I am only tangentially aware of it and thought it basically just added a bunch of end game content.
>>733681472it's not diablo
>>733639165Agree. I played HC with two friends during that period. Was amazing.
>>7336305354 for sure yeah. That game just gets fucking boring after a few hours.3 ehh varies. 2 and 3 can be played and enjoyed because they play pretty differently and are good at what they do.
>>733679883I started online and got tired of the game disconnecting and kicking me back to town every twenty mins
>everyone said Warlock was so good and OP>i'm sitting here farming eldritch / shenk / pindle at level 28 trying to hit 30 because I straight up couldn't even attempt normal Baal because Lister was 100% unbeatable as a Demon Warlock at level 26
I found a book
>>733682192demon build peaks later on when you near maxing skills.
>>733639165Early RoS was pretty good. I wish they had kept rebalancing and reworking skills and adding new legendary powers and sets instead of going the route they did. I played some weird summon crusader for a bit in season 1(?) and while it wasn't the top tier build it was semi-functional and kinda fun but ultimately not well supported by the game at the time. I don't think they ever did anything with that line of building unless something's changed in the last couple years.D4 was such a disappointment. Playing through the story it gave the impression of a slower paced game but once you moved to the post-story content it got retarded real quick. It was D3 retardese all over again.
>>733682192also, bind hephasto with fanaticism aura + amplify damage curse... it doubles your damage and some other stats and wrecks immunes, it's literally legal cheating kek
>>733630535Does anyone actually like Diablo III
>>733682742no, it's irredeemable shit
>>733682528that seems bad
>>733682794full set gives you+2 to demon tree +2 to eldritch tree and +1 to all, it's pretty good as mid tier stuff
>>733682192>he hit normal baal at 26Bro you doing something wrong. You're supposed to be 25 when you start act 5 or you don't get any fucking xp from clearing it. If you start act 5 at 25 you should be around 30 when you get to baal. That alone would have made him a lot easier.Demons need a lot of points to be functional. The max of 3 demons being locked away behind 20lv demonic mastery is rough. Seconding >>733682674 having a demon with fanaticism and cursed is basically mandatory for the summoner build. What sucks is that you gotta keep finding it again and again as you level up your bind demon and get better gear because the bound demon doesn't update I'm fairly sureOn a related note I was disappointed to discover that level 30 demonic mastery does not give you a 4th demon. So lame.
I love sets so much bros. Fuck runewords. Uniques can stay.
>>733682794>>733682976I'm sorry +4 to all
>>733640139Jesus... I forgot how dumb D3 was.
>>733683013don't a lot of people do tombs until ~23/24
>>733682976>>733683097+4 is more workable but you could get that from the body armor rw that gives you +2 warlock skills and +2 from spirit shield instead of that book. Frees up the helmet slot for shako or a circlet. Those boots are kinda nice though.>>733683030Runewords are too good but maybe they should have made sets good if they wanted people to use them. At least they buffed some of them in D2R so there's some niche use cases or leveling utility in them.
>>733683227They do but if you walk through the game you should be around 25 at the start of act 5. People doing all this run shit for no reason when they could just play the game.
>>733683376I fucking love the books, very comfy
>>733683547They're cool but need dem resists for hell. I wish they had added some chase book rw.
>>733679675Do you have textures and character models on very high? Those with everything else on high + TAA and the game looks amazing to me.
>>733683376Set pieces can also now be upgraded using the cube
>>733638347unc means uncle, of course it's ebonics because uncles are the closest older male relative they have
>>733683205I think you mean awesomeAlso there’s a couple builds in D4 that play about the same.
>>733683820It's a shame upgrading set pieces doesn't boost the bonus stats.
Didn't realize Blood Boil and Engorge were prerequisites to Bind Demon so now I'm stuck in normal until level 32 because Lister is still 100% unbeatable. My goats can't even fucking scratch him, and his minions all heal to full somehow. I can't do any damage whatsoever. I've NEVER played a character that did this badly in normal before.
>>733684149>failing in normal>with the most broken class ever madewhat the fuck are you doing
>>733684149are all your skills in the demon tree?do you have lethargy?
>>733684689Yes level 10 Demon Mastery for 2 goats, everything else in Goat. 1 point in Lethargy. +3 Goat wand. Lister and his minions OBLITERATE me. Can't even scratch them.
>been playing for 4 days entirely solo self found>now 1 jah away from an enigma without even bothering to farm hard for runes
>>733684990no blood oath?
I’m playing a maamazon
How come D2 is the only ARPG where every random enemy pain sound and every single skill sound are iconic and instantly recognizable?
>>733685349LMAO ROFL
>>733631146Peak shit.
Should i wait to find a thundermaul to craft a fortitude weapon for echo strike? I'm still using a fucking spirit with dogshit damage. My top end is only 12k.
>>733631146Fuck no it wasnt
>>733630535problem with new diablo games is that they are overbalancedin chase of selling you items, they dont allow you to actually have funpeople like diablo 2 since its still retarded fuck, that is despite it being a shit game thats objectively inferior mechanically, graphically and design wise to 3 or 4
>>733685895>people like diablo 2 since its still retarded fuck
>>733685948retarded as fuck(retarded fun works too), its not gated in any way around some microtransactions, online balance or what everpeople are free to make the fun they wantwatching Mars Express so typos, great movie btw
>>733683376Fuck me I forgot I was looking for the base armour the other day and kept rolling with vipermagi. thanks for reminding me. Pic related kek.
Do the Warlock demon / demon skills snapshot?
>>7336853021 point until goat and demon mastery are maxed
>+1 to town portallolwat
>>733631741>Why didn't they try to balance the character attributes in Resurrected?Because D2 is revered and they have no reason to murder its sales by changing the game everyone loved in a way that will inevitably nerf characters. There's a reason they did very few nerfs ever to that game
>>733686509Wouldn't that give you Town Portal as a spell then?
I can’t use that
>>733686550guess so, frees up two more spaces for charms in the inventory
>>733631146console d3 is one of the most fun couch coop games imodesu
>>733686550Yes.https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Sling_Ring
>>733686509>frees up a whole slot of inventory space for an extra small charm
>>733686672>two inventory slotsYou mean a potion slot, right?
>>733686672one more space you mean. or none if you just carried a single tp scroll. not unless you decided for some reason to just keep that ring on at all times
>>733682742I sorta liked it until they killed cain so act1
>>733682742Now that Diablo 4 is out and is a microtransaction nightmare, I like that D3 is a full game that doesn't try to extract money from you every second of gameplay.
>>733686764then they just kill his replacement for no reason lolwhat a bunch of dramaslop
>>733686724>>733686736what? town portal book is two slots.
>>733631741Because that isn't a problem?
>>733686872theres no way youre using that as a main ring. so youre keeping it in your inventory to switch. so its still taking up one slot in your inventory
>>7336305353 and 4 are unfuckingplayable garbage2 is the only good one in the entire series because it's objectively better than the first game
>>733686872
I got bind demon and got Hephasto. He does less dps than a goat and then he died. My entire Warlock experience just feels like someone is playing a trick on me, I could have had a level 80 sorc by now if I had played normally.
>>733667584Lol.
>>733686428blood oath gives them health, resists and physical damage reduction
>>733686996I only have 2 points in demonic mastery (8 with +all) and my hell hephasto is unkillable unless i afk for 15 minutes, or i die.
>he went the virgin minion cuck build instead of the chad echo strike
>>733687247I have zero points on demon skills, I'm using a book with +3 to bind demon and he's also unkillable.Warlock getting a heavy nerf whenever blizzard decides the honey moon is over.
>>733679417>ironwolfBaste
>>733686996Hephasto is for his tankiness and the curse aura you can get on him that makes immunities not matter, if you are using it for dps you doing it wrong. He might be a paper bitch in normal mode though.
>>733631146yeah manhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH8TwNqIOfsabout as "peak" as Gayday 3's launch
>>733687406he never died on nightmare and hell for me, dunno about normal
>>733688230>>733688230>>733688230
>>733682742I liked it for what it tried to do. And I enjoy the Great Rift runs I use to do becoming a killing machine with wizard
>>733631146it wasnt. faggot KYS. ERROR 37. items were fucked with the wrong stats for your character becuz the kikes wanted you to use RMAH.
>>733643529stfu. u dont know what youre talking about.
>>733682742no. it was boring as fuck. also turned Diablo into a bitch. killed Cain. talkative saturday morning villains and gear check like WoW. also had a death timer if u took too long to kill a boss. items didnt have your primary stat cuz RMAH shennanigans.
>>733638470Nta but its trueVideogames are a medium to tell interactive stories, which is why they are art. Diablo 1 is a better game hands down and you zoomers will never understand, which is why your IQ is lower than the previous generations for the first time in ages.
