Just beat Dybbuk with the crappiest team, thanks to the persuasion device.What are some other fun quests to look out for?
Pills here
Chaos Device is a pretty good one to do with a full team of collarless.It was either that or the dice one.
oh wow ranjeet didn't make another thread 100 posts before bump limitim guessing one of the trannies in the polycule told him to chill
>>733630959The chaotic level up ones, great for finally doing 4 colorless runs
lost my super op cleric to the core boss because it got immobilized and the boss had 2 extra turns to get his suck attack off before i could move onceunlocked butcher and have pyrophina coming though
>>733631396What happens if you unlock Pyrophina but hasn't beaten all forms of Guillotina yet?
>>733627467Dumbfuck faggot
>>733631482im guessing it queues pyrophina until youre done with tina 3
I don't understand people who say Mage is a bad class. Get Warp on that thing and you'll never get hit.
>>733631685And then what? There's a lot of movement skills on the other classes too.Mage is bad to try and run fresh because 75% of its skills and passives suck massive ass. There's some decent stuff there but it's like Tinkerer where you have to luck into it first then breed it into new cats. And preferably play those cats as another class.
>>733631685Mage along with fighter are the easiest classes to build into dumbfuck megadamage builds. I think many people are sincerely too stupid to build mage.
>>733631729Hit and run tactics.
>>733631772Fighter sure but mage? Its damage doesn't scale that well considering spells deal fixed damage. you'd need to buff magic damage repeatedly and there aren't that many ways to do that
>>733631685Usually the problem is getting them to accomplish something aside from survival.This guy was MVP on my bunker run though.
+5 Chr for the rest of the battle feels insanely situational. How is this a single-use consumable?
>>733631886Good for if you have crazy Int but meh Charisma I guess. For a boss fightThe pills are also ridiculously common.
>Get mage>Some assfuck durr extra fire damage passive>Except none of the spell rolls give fire spellsClassic mage.
>>733631886Same for the Doll up spell.
>>733631938More of Mage's stuff would be good if it applied to the whole team like that one that buffs any cats that cast expensive abilities.
>>733631886are you talking about the jazzy pill that also gives 6 mana or something else? getting charisma after the battle starts is kind of useless.
>>733631928The thing is that its a consumable so you get the Chr boost AFTER the battle starts so the only benefit you get is an increase to your max mana. Like, I can see it helping if your Chr took a hit, but not as a single-use item.
Aquafag is most likely a janitor, that'a why reporting his posts is not working. Do not post in the threads he creates.Send feedback to the mods instead via feedback or irc, it may be the only way they'll see it.
Struggling to find a strong Necro build. I want to leechmax but the game never rolls what I need.
>>733630959Into The Breach for soilennials furbaby parents
>>733632540are you the furbaby police?
holy fuck monks are so busted. I had one that could attack 40 times a turn with that ability that gives 1 extra attack for every unarmored body piece
>>733632360leechbuilds are rare, you're better off doing undead or suicide builds (or just using necro as a glorified tank as a last resort)
>>733632360>>733632792are the leech familiar and leech status effect both called the same thing? if we're talking about "leeches" online how are we supposed to know which one we're talking about? (ill just assume it's not the familiar because the familiar is shit)
I just unlock desert Should I go act2 or grind act1?
Which class is the best for equip AI hat?Sometimes do nothing useful but sometimes really strong
>>733632854>are the leech familiar and leech status effect both called the same thing?yeah, it's confusing.The big leech familiar passive is alright, and the ability that surrounds enemies with leeches is necro's best ability hands down. But generally when people talk about necro leech builds, they mean the leech status effect and having a necro build (or party build) that allows you to stack insane leech status on enemies.
>>733632360if you get that skill that inflict 3 leeches on every unit that's all the healing you need. Bosses get 3 leech stacks for every square of their size, so big 6 tiles bosses get 18 leeches per cast. You probably want hp regen on your other cats to counteract the effect.
What does luck do outside of events and crit chance? How much does it even improve, can you check it somewhere during battle?
>>733632360I accidentally got a necromancer that spawns flies on enemy turns and spawns leeches on hit with the basic attack, and the "replace" ability which let me teleport onto summons and refresh my attack, they had high int and charisma so they could teleport around enemies looping basic attacks up to like 8 times. Is that leechmaxxing?I'm really early into the game so I hope I get more luck like that and even crazier setups, this feels like playing isaac for the first time
>>733631685if the mage gets that passive that increases damage when allies cast spells and some aoe like mega blast it's super good
>>733632089>Send feedback to the mods instead via feedback or irc,They'll ban the threads and send you to vg, is that what you want to achieve? Can you name a single instance in 4chan history where mods where helphul?
>>733632360Power of Zero + Giga Drain did good for meOr any way to self heal and the upgraded blood donation spellNecro will never be the most damage but they can be basically unkillable drain machines.
Guess we're going homeFuck off
>>733633135actually laughed out loud
>>733633135The smart thing to do would be to try to finish with this and make the most of it because you have to kill that cat either way. You do not want it passing that shit down.
>>733633190He doesn't really have any spells that are that abusable for more than one fightIf I had a neverstone in my pocket maybe to make up for it but I don't
What are the best classes for Lil lucky dwarf cats
>>733633135What are you even supposed to do about that other than make your run end early or make the cat a deadweight?Might as well let them die honestly.>>733633079This site has gone downhill so badly ever since moot left, which is over a decade ago now iirc. It is nigh impossible to flag these issues with the mods anymore. I don't think any of them use the irc anymore and the feedback page no longer allows you to submit anything other than a bug report.
>>733631772Mage and necromancer have this problem where if your rolls are shit they suck and if they're good they're amazing and can destroy everything. This becomes less of a problem the further you get, but still shows
>>733633296They stopped letting people submit anything because they don't intend to do anything about the reports, /vg/ is full of schizophrenic homosexual avatarfags that are friends with jannies and mods, causing generals to be constantly shitted. They're a lot worse than aquajeet but it's in the same ballpark of cancer
>>733633296If I got it later in the run I'd try to keep going but that was slapped on me in the labs
>>733633135OP on butcher probably
Is Guillotina's second encounter much harder than the first one? I stomped her the first time, but those were my best cats and I can't use them again.Also what happens if you lose during home defense?
>>733633447>Also what happens if you lose during home defense?Nothing, just the cats you sent out die if you wipe obviously
>no items>no cats>garbage strays>guillotina 2 in 3 daysmight drop the game desu not feeling this at all anymore
Deck and Fenrir aren't hard they are just excellent at wasting your fucking time.
I think it's a bit annoying how the family tree doesn't quite track properly. I have a cat who I know for a fact is on some level a descendant of my original two cats but when I open the window I can't see them. I think they only track the previous five or six parents so if it's a great-great-great-great-great-great grandchild you lose that part of their history in the family tree. Annoying
>>733633135time to spam the 50 mana nuke spell
>>733634057Can't modify the cost on that one or spells that use your full bar to do the same amount of damage
>>733632934Cleric with high int and area heals was cool because they always got the most heals and I didn't have to think about topping everyone up. Free healbot.
>>733633821Guillotina isn't that bad, anon. Do 3-cat runs so your strays end up powerful enough that base stats don't matter, you'll get items that suit them along the way
>>733633821Godzilla's the only boss that actually needs special prep imoThe rest just throw a fucking Scattershot hunter at it
Water bottle legs huh
>unlock act 3>every single run since then has been a total failure despite breeding cats with good base stats and mutations>cant even beat act 1 anymorejust about over it
>>733634720How does Act 1 get harder?
>>733634421>Soft & Wet
>>733634757its a skill issue on my part but i dont know what im doing wrong. im trying to get good synergies going and planning my moves ahead, but i keep getting demolished by the second or third chapter
>>733634892That's fair enough, I had a run end after sewers boss recently because I don't really know how to make thief work yet. Wish unlocking more rooms wasn't such a grind since I have cat lineage autism
Did steakmund patch the furniture store? I remember when the game first came out I pretty often saw health/mutation furniture. But now that I can afford it and want it I haven't seen a single piece of furniture with health or mutation on it for like 2 months.
>DLC will have a ranged class for sure, we have 4 that we have in mind(direct quote from Edmund)What do you think these class ideas are? Gunslinger is one, no doubt, but I'm not sure what 3 other ranged class concepts he has.
I'm so tired of lonesome road bros
>>733635885Paladin class that take damage for its allies
>decide I'm gonna do a quest run>Get entirely dogshit passives and first skills>First level ups give even worse skills, basically have negative synergy>Even the first area is a fucking slog because of itThanks ed. I wish you could at least pick your first active/passive and not need full RNG favor to not be bricked from the start
>>733636752You can pick them by breeding the passives you want 50 hours into your save :)
>>733635885Chemist. Creates and throws pills and poisons for buffs and debuffs. Equipped Item synergies.
>>733636792Passive and active skills are not guaranteed to be inherited, and more often than not you will not get the *same* as on the parent you wanted. That does not change the first skill from picking a collar, which is an entirely separate skill. You would know this if you were not a livestream watching brownoid
>>733637034Calm down
>>733633135>>733633296Depends how early you get it.Several classes would benefit from lots of first turn spellcasting, like druid summoning however many critters. Just save it for bosses and important battles.
>>733630959>did the Unidentified Pills and Tina's Head runs at the same timeSeems a bit unfair that you don't get any hard mode unlocks for the pills, but whatever. Had the fly weather in Throbbing Domain, so I was very lucky to have Cleanse. That + Haste saved my ass.
>>733632874Both. Get the Boneyard unlocks and run side quests when you need items/money or cats for home defense.
>Cleared Tina 3>Unlocked 3rd Room>Finished Tink's MissionFinally it's time to bully Spinnerettes and grind more furnitures.
>>733635885>>DLC will haveWait so the game's not finished?
>>733640795sure anon, a game with a 100+ hour campaign is "unfinished"
>>733633135Ok but what if i make that 13th spell a holy shield, or self freeze.Since a lot of the kill mechanics work by dealing 999 damage
>>733630959I didn't know Dybbuk's gimmicks but luckily my mage had magic missile AND sparklers so I managed to wear him down.
Man this game has so many aspects to it that I love but every time I play it I just get fucking frustrated as shitI'm finding shit I dislike about it in the same vein I dislike shit in Darkest Dungeon or FTLI can't stand non-combat encounters where RNG decides if you get a reward or if you get completely and absolutely fuckedLike my last run was on an incredible pace to see the caves for the first time but my hyper-carrying fighter rolled poorly on an RNG encounter and their HP and MP were both reduced to 1 permanently so my incredible setup fell apart in an instant where I had absolutely no control over the situationIt's exactly like>Oops your Man-at-Arms is a kleptomaniac now because you walked by a bookcase>Time to lose all sorts of rewards because the game says so>Oops your 30 minute run was ruined because the cat integral to your strategy rolled poorly and now they're completely worthlessHow am I supposed to enjoy shit like this? At least in FTL 90% of the time you can just say no to all the bullshit random encounters if you don't want to risk anything but here its just>Probably good option (which can still fuck you)or>Obvious option you shouldn't pick because your stat doesn't favor it in the slightest (terrible outcome likely)
>>733641479I always ignore the ones that can have disasterous failures
>>733635885The Juggler, specializes in chaining/bouncing attacks and transferring buffs and debuffs between enemies and the party.
THE PEOPLE ARE DOOMEDYOUR BROTHER IS DOOMEDYOUR MOTHER IS DOOMEDYOUR PREACHER IS DOOMEDYOUR MILKMAN IS DOOMEDTHE MIDWIFE IS DOOMEDTHE MAILMAN IS SO VERY DOOMED
>>733641552and the times where you can't ignore them?
>>733641604i just get lucky
>>733641479I just wish that there were more rewarding results, or that the really good results weren't so rare. Like sometimes it's an option between getting 10 coins and 5 food or getting feline AIDS.
>>733641604Pick the event has the least impactful crit failure.Its risk management
alright I'm about to go past the crater/bunker for the first time, wish me luck and feed me advice
Pickaxe destroys Gambit's die
>>733641753Good luck anon, make sure to read everything carefully.
>>733641753If you go past Bunker, bring water there's fire and lava. Most enemies there are fire proof.Past Crater is Moon. Moon gives +2 range and knock back. The boss is puzzle so don't worry if you get downed and injured in fights. The midboss twins are bound to cause injuries. The Moon boss, if you go into its mouth, it's not insta kill. Instead the Moon boss chews the cat for 5-6 damage per turn and the cat in the mouth has special command to make the boss hit itself and drop its guard. If you go moon, don't show your butt to the aliens
>>733641753Avoid moon hard path. Good chance you’ll get instakill enemies
>every boss theme is very goodyou'd think there'd be at least one or two stinkers but no
>>733641753if you want to survive, you'll have to learn to read every single enemy's description
>~2.8k male cat names>~2.4k female cat names>~7.4 neutral cat namesOkay, I guess I'm not going to audit all this crap.Feel free to suggest names to remove and names to add.I'm not keeping track of what I've removed. If it's gone, then it needed to be gone.I've added the following so far:>Adolf Litter>Rageddy Anne Frank>Jeffry Blepstein>Ghislaine Meowswell>Niggerman>Niggerma'am
The warrior caste in my home are barely even feline any more. They get more and more inbred with each day.
>>733635885>GunslingerRanged LOS class that can only shoot in straight and diagonal lines.>>733636838>ChemistRanged lob class that can grab pick-ups and toss them to allies/enemies.
if you have a slightly inbred cat will all the future generation of children also be inbred or this can go away If I use strays to make kittens?
>>733642097Are you 12?
>>733641753For the Core boss destroy or douse the candles. You don't want to fight the summon with all the candles on.
>>733642245Iirc inbredness is a percentage so adding strays fixes it
>>733642245Include strays to new generation. The inbred is removed or lowered with fresh blood and genes
Are items looted from the King and Caos "unlocked" for next runs as well or do we only get them with these RNG loots?
>>733642339>>733642356ok so I can fix the future cats, I was working on an all 7 one and thought I had to restart
>thief cat i am shooting for dybbuk with gets all stats up from doctor event>neat>gets blood fury>hmm, do i make this his gimmick?>decide yes while thinking picrel>gets the AI all stats up hat>yeah sure it's not like he has complex abilities, just movement and DPS, and half his actions are blood fury anyway>battles become a coinflip whether he solos it first turn or wipes my team and has to slowly pick away>bossfights aren't so bad but still dangerous with adds>overall he sweeps>dybbuk posesses him despite my efforts otherwise>wipes whole team>gets hit by a ghost and that spits out dybbuk>dybbuk walks into fire and diestime to take a meat cube to the caves now
>>733631179>mom's ring>backpackoh yeah. it's pharmacy time
For the anon that asks if Tri-Attack works with Elemental Attunement. It does work so your basic attack inflict Burn/Slow/Stun/Freeze at once. Somehow I also made her a Burnmaxx Mage.
What triggers the Guillotina 3 fight? I've already beat Pyrophina 1, was I supposed to hold off on triggering that until Guillotina 3?Did I somehow lock myself out of something?
>going to the end>first event gives my fighter bloodlust>basically just position my team on one side of the map and let the fighter go wild>reach the future>machine with options of "upgrade" "purify" and another I don't remember>click purify>bloodlust removedThat was a fucking relief
>>733633918>fighting fenrir with ZERO fire skillstorture
>>733637069the last refuge of the intellectually dishonest
>>733642097>Niggerma'amlmao
>cleared desert>nowhere near enough cats to unlock any of the pipe upgradesIs there something like being too good at this game? I feel like I'm gimping myself by beating everything first try.
>mfw my schizophrenic cat hallucinates a nazi robot who proceeds to desecrate my 3 corpse health cleric
>bats aren't affected by Heathens passive
>>733642097Are you 24?
Do you have to sacrifice a cat every time you enter throbbing domain
>>733642923There are two ways to play (assuming you don't suck). You either rush through the content or complete extra runs for unlocks. Rushing will (potentially) make things harder in the late game, but you run the risk of adding dozens of hours to your play time if you start grinding unlocks early. Pick your poison.For context, I have only wiped once (intentionally for the dead cat vendor), and I just cleared the Unidentified Pills + Tina Head quests in the same run. I have about 35 hours invested in the game.
Is this cat any good
ENTER
And thus concludes the adventures of 4 upgrade squad, the squirrels were nuttyFirst time i had been to the core, i wasn't expecting the destroyer to vore my other druid and cleric, the setup on that boss was stressful, at least the better of the 2 druids survived
Kiss the daddy shark
>>733643241Had this on a mage for Tinait never procced
>>733642923If anything losing runs will prevent you from getting upgrades. Think about it, Frank and Butch can only take cats that have been on adventures, that means you can't give more than 4 cats to them collectively each day but just the first two upgrades from both will take a combined 35 cats. You aren't meant to unlock those upgrades too fast. You aren't really gimping yourself either because either way it's going to take a lot of runs to upgrade them and those two are the longest upgrades that also greatly improve your ability to prepare for future runs (Butch especially because he lets you store gear sets for the future). Some of your runs might be a little harder because of how fast you're progressing and because you're less preped but if you're winning who cares? If anything it's a good way for the difficulty to sort of scale with how good someone is.
>>733643071No.
>>733643284A tip for that boss if you have a druid with the spell that makes water tiles, he can't relight a candle if its sitting in water
>doing transmitter antenna quest>tank randomly gets heartworm from a random event>dies and is just gone>my tinkerer rolls forbidden spell after being locked out of their other spells on the boss>i'll just use it>gets psychosis>goes on a rampage and dies>have to slowly whittle away at the bosses HP over many turns with my necromancer's leech ability>its okay I can just leech their HP before they explode and destroy the cat holding my quest item>leeches can't drain the last HP of hitler>win the fight but just barely but now I have to redo the quest
>>733636838This but alchemisr where it gets bonuses depemding on where it stands/where it targets its abilities
>>733643397The importance of water was made known to me in the first fight where my 4 con druid got its ass hooked across the map into 6 tiles of lava on the first turn giving him 20 burnI had no water the whole time
>RNGslop
>>733631482>>733631612IDK exactly how it works, but you can definitely get the act 2 house bosses before finishing Guillotina. My boss order was Guillotina 1>Zaratana>Pyrophina>Guillotina 2>Zaratana+Pyrophina>Guillotina 3. It really sucked, since progression into act 3 is locked behind access to Throbbing Domain, which means I was stuck for a really long time. I cleared act 2 in ~30 hours, then it took me another 50+ hours to actually unlock Throbbing Domain where I was basically just grinding Dr. Beanies quests.
>>733643773lol you just suck
>>733643071Better question: is it ever worth it to loot the Throbbing King?
>>733635885Biomancer to fuck around with diseases, mass debuff and poison.>but Butcher-Yeah, and Butcher also does a lot of Tank and Fighter shit too but better.
>>733643841Yes if the cat with the option isn't crucial for breeding or home defense
best collar for solo runs?
>>733635885parasite cat that can hop into and pilot an enemyalso has builds for having parasites, disorders, and birth defects
>>733643915probably necromancer
>be me, trying druid for the first time>gets a summon frog skill, nice>summoned frog does 6 damage per attack>get promote skill next, nice>use promote on frog>still does 6 damage>"okay... a bit disappointing, that.">later on get the option to upgrade promote to promote+, do it>promote+ frog still only does 6 damage>"..."i feel ripped off
>accidentally made a thread because this one didn't have mewgenics in the OPoops
>get gaydar>this is the first cat i see
>>733635885Researcher.Every enemy in the game has a category but it’s not used for much, I think there will be a class that uses it more
SACRIFICE YOUR ONLY SON HIS BREATH IS MINE TO TAKE
Butcher is so fucking good man it’s literally just fighter but better
>>733644032frog repositionsyou cant really make it a giga summon
This cat pair is churning out perfect 7sRemember: You don't need to breed your 7 stat cats, just use the two cats who have the mutations you want or are not that closely related who make up for each others weaknesses
>>733641479>caves for the first timeAnon, you have only just begun.
Idk what people on reddit are on about tinkerer being good, it’s sucked every time i ran one
>>733641479>fighter rolled poorly on an RNG encounter and their HP and MP were both reduced to 1 permanentlyPretty sure that ability isn't even bad if you can stack armor. You've got some learning to do if you're getting filtered by Sewer. Most of the game's nonsense can be played around, and that's part of the fun.
>finally get some good mutation furniture + the idol>multiple cats mutating every night >my cat orgy pit has turned into fucking monsters>50 cat monsters in my house nowIs this the power Dr. Beanie harnesses?
>>733644401just get high mana/charm build + tech abilities and abilities like this and you can win the attrition war every time.
>>733644509I usually put the mutation buildings in the fighting pit and put all my cats with low amounts of mutations there so they can roll some cool mutations, don't want to potentially fuck my breeding cats with some shit tier mutations
>>733644549catbots are shit
Holy shit these enemies are cancer how do you deal with them
>>733644607I have a room that has a bonded pair that just shit out perfect kittens every day. I throw the prefect kittens into general containment (the orgy pit), and things have gotten out of hand very quickly.Once I get some solid mutations I will use a second room for breeding that into a new set of perfect kittens with good mutations.
>>733644629tinkerer also has pretty good bombing skills
>>733644401>being worse then redditYikes, go back
>>733644726I had demonman + craft as an active skill. I just threw like 5 bombs every turn.
>>733644726>Napalmthose are just standard bombs lol
>>733644770Regular bombs only light fires on grass or bramble tiles
>>733644813not true
>>733644724>one bonded pairThat's pretty weak for inbreeding management. You should have like 4-8 bonded pairs running around to make inbreeding management and mutation retention easier
THE FOOD IS FIRST RATEGOT SOME ASTRO CHEESE ON MY PLATE
When is this game coming to switch?
Just bought the soundtrack does anyone want a link to a zip of it in flacSince it's not on Khinsider yet
>>733643192idk i don't speak schnitzel
Is there a single reason to ever take this upgrade?
Best quad class?I'd guess Druid
>>733644902HAHAHAHAHAHA! (It probably would be pretty good with Switch 2 mouse control, but I wouldn't hold my breath. You'll be waiting a while, assuming it gets a port.)
>I have 41 games in backlog to try because I keep playing Mewgenics:(
>>733645079I just had a 2 week break off of college classes and I didn't do a single fucking thing because I was playing mewgenics. It could be worse anon.
>>733645035there's almost never a reason to get raccoon form in the first place
>>733645035Pickup synergies with cleric/butcher/thieve, I've never really done one of those however
>started bubble boyJesus christ I thought it meant only the cat with it equipped get knockback.
>>733644401He's the hardest to build well and I think his builds are less obvious. He can also do a lot, ranged damage, melee damage, tanking, healing, making summons, making traps but you won't really get to pick what he does. You can pick Tank or Butcher and know that they can tank for you, you can't pick Tinkerer and know he's going to be your tank until you see his starting skills. Some people say he's gear dependent but I think that's also untrue as he actually makes better use of worse gear making him actually kind of less gear dependent if you know what/when to give him.His builds I've gotten to work are: Tech based, build up tech and build tier 3 weapons or robots. Nursebot makes this build a strong healer. The passive that makes you upgrade your weapon instead of throw it makes this into one of the strongest DPS builds especially if you can manage to get 3 Tech turn 1.Explosion build: Explosion passive and especially the Jetpack are good for this. You need to build him tanky or he will kill himself but I had a tanky Tinkerer that started every fight by just suicide bombing the back line and taking out half the board. There's also a good passive for this one that makes your explosions electric and stuns things. I've gotten this build to work a few different ways but the "glue" is always the jetpack skill, especially once its upgraded but the rocket boots work too.Tank Build: Pretty straight forward, use good armor, take the armor boosting passives, stand in the front line.Robot spam: Exactly what it says, spam damage bots. Tech and electric damage both help but aren't needed to make this work.Item abuse build: Equip him with strong gear and make use of his passive and skills that let you upgrade gear or get more use out of it. In particular the passive that doubles your armor effects makes a ton of wacky build possible, so many you can't even list out the possibilities.
>>733645235Better hope you have ranged cats otherwise they're actually going to keep getting knocked around and eventually crushed to death. Happened to me ;_;
>>733645035There are pick up builds for some classes. I once had a butcher with the cleric passive that made him share pickups with the team, it was insanely good. I could imagine a Druid with that passive and this skill would be similarly insane.
>>733645052hunter because you are practically guaranteed to get a marker + heavy shot/flurry combo amongst your team which is always a literal free wineven against proj. bouncers you get bombs and traps anyways
>>733645035Racoon is dogshit, elk and turtle are good. Haven't tried others yet.
>>733642023Zaratana.
>>733645340Squirrel is fucking busted
>>733645340I had werewolf version. I only used it a couple of times as the Druid was basically my healer on that run
>>733645410It's peak, you're just mad because you don't brush your teeth
>>733645410Someone doesn't like brushing his teeth
>>733645340Squirrel is one of the most busted abilities in the game even without a familiar-focused team comp and outright gamebreaking with one.
>>733644401simply get techit also has some busted passives for equipment
>>733645340if you ever see squirrel, always pick it no matter what, it's probably the strongest druid active because it can carry an entire run just by itself with no other specific synergies or stats neededwolf form is pretty good too but you had to pick a druid with good strength (shouldn't be an issue if your cats are perfect 7s)
It feels like tinkerer just boils down to ”roll a rocket launcher + infinite dmg/durability bro!”Ok, will do
this combo doesn't work by the way
just beat Hitler 3 and got the second credits, how annoying is the quest to get to The Rift with the thing that spawns robot versions of the class bosses? Do you have to kill them to complete each fight?
>>733645534>>733645493>>733645442Good to know, I probably wouldn't have tried it without knowing. As on my first druid run I got summon squirrel babies, which was really not very good on it's own.
>>733645253I'm running monk, fighter, necro and druid right now.If I manage to clear the sewers I'll run away to home and do it with another team comp.
Best strategy for beating moon?
>>733645340>>733645534oh also monkey form is also good if you have decent dexterity too, turtle is serviceable as wellhaven't tried the rest (besides raccoon but it sucks so fucking bad without extremely specific synergies that are ultimately still meh)
>>733645663Squirrel form summons 4 adult squirrels (the ones babies evolve to after a turn) immediately, lets you summon 1 more every turn and changes your default action to "give all squirrels +2 atk permanently"
>>733643192give us translations for the Hitler fights anon
Game would be better if it was dogs instead
>>733645749Eat Rock
>go to desert>get fly swarm weather that is 1 damage +1 bleed every turn>get fight with nothing but bone cats>have no armour piercingokay just having heat stroke plus unavoidable bleed build up the entire run is a fucking absolute ass combination since you don't get any after battle healing but to combine it with a long dragged out battle like that is fucking diabolicalat least now I've finally unlocked the corpse guy from losing a run
>>733644401>Breed blacksmith on>Give the kitten a gunYou win the game
>the best strategy/weapon is a gunarts imitates life
>>733645880>gun tinkerer>bomb tinkerer >mech tinkerer >robot tinkerer >research + just good weapon spam tinkerer It's almost impossible to not have atleast one of these show up on your run. And they are all very good.
My first tinkerer i got the tech skill inate and I was like damn this is niceNext time he was complete dogshit, and the anons who said you need tech or good weapons otherwise he's a bust are rightDefinitely a cool class
>>733645970My very first tinkerer got research+ and use weapons twice passive. I was basically spamming 2x rocket launchers a turn, or 2x GIANT LOG.. With a low roll being the uzi, which was still decent.
>>733645608was disappointed when i tried to use a similar item that caused you to start with poisonapparently poison immunity means "you cant acquire any NEW stacks of poison," but if you START with stacks from some kind of an item or disorder then it stop that from happening
>>733645663squirrel form summons 4 ADULTS for 10 and your new basic actions gives all squirrels boosted attackso you have 4 rapists with like 4x? damage that can fly across the map, it clears basically every room easily AND you get to summon adults every turn for just 2 mana (the non-form summon adult squirrel is 6 mana btw)
If I choose the thief passive that turns its basic attack into a two hit melee one, that means it scales with strength instead of dexterity right?
I finally got my first all-7 kitten! Now to remove everyone from his vicinity and start removing the inbreeding.
>>733646118Yes, I had to not pick it on a primordial dwarf thief because I noticed the damage was 2x2 in the level up screen
>downloaded steam link on phone>can now play at work
>>733644834Yes it is, I just tested it
Did the quest to unlock Throbbing domain, do i need to do it on this run? Got the a boss fight about to attack my house so i need these cats to survive
>>733646219Wait steam link can do that?
>Throbbing King says KneelWhat do I do? Just skip my turns?
>>733646395do all Tina fights first, then unlock Throbbing Domain
>>733646472nta but my buddy plays it exclusively on his tablet on his couch while watching youtube on his tv
>>733645970It feel like the easiest class to exploit reliablyaslong as you can pass one of its passive on you can gauranteed it not being useless
>>733646395you successfully did all 3 parts of the quest?after you do the third part (actually going inside and sacrificing a cat with tina's head) then... yeah, you can't go back home at that point bro, you gotta continue lolmay as well as least try to down the boss with the remaining 3 cats (you will get a collarless stray on the way there)
...Thank god I have instakill for the boss.
>>733646486>kneelget into melee range>get awayget out of melee rangei think the tiles that he will attack are highlighted no? you should see some safe tiles around him
>>733646545ive attached the leech and now i have the option to go into the domain or go home where i will be attacked by the two Kaiju cats. if i go home now will i have to do the leech thing again?
>>733630959how does one get rid of the kaiju stomping around outside your house?
>>733646597oh, you still have another part to dogo inside, it will say "sorry you need to do one more thing" then yeah, you will go back home, no extra battles etc
>succeed a stat check event>reward is taking 7 damageAlright
I fucking LOVE losing 10 const cat to the final pyramid event (const check)FUCK
Im about to wrap up act2 and Im still not breeding good cats for shit.As a matter of fact I can just barely maintain a 5stat average.When does it start picking up? I'm probably behind on furniture.
>>733646653ty anon
>>733646610you need to do the 3-part quest in act 2 that unlocks the secret rift zone, just like you did a 3 part quest in act 1 to unlock the throbbing king
>>733646673im at the same point, feel like i dont have much trouble in act 1 or 2 but nervous to go beyond cause my cat breeding is shit.
>>733646472it lets you host games on your machine and stream them to another device, good for turn based games since the input latency doesn't matter much but you can't really do real-time stuff with it
>>733646219reminds me I gotta bypass the install block on my work laptop to get parsec for this.
oh fuck
>>733646739but you have to play without music if working meanwhile :(
>>733646673>breeding cats with 7syou can do this at any point in the gametry and make sure your cats have at least 7 constitution (for health) and 7 agility (for movement) at all times>breeding cats with useful mutationsdo the shimmer event in the crater, it always shows up and it always gives your cats a ton of beneficial random mutationsbreed them and make your overpowered army (good mutations to try and keep: +1 extra attack per round, +1 extra movement per round, +1 extra stat per round, free ability rerolls, +1 attack range, etc)
>>733646669nvm he came back for some weird reasonthis game feels like a fever dream sometimes
>>733646257I'm playing right now and the bombchu left fire when exploding on a regular ground tile in the desert.
I thought I had bubble boy solved but it doesn't seem to block the damage actually.
crispy legstasty thighs
>Stalled out Pyrophina cause I didn't wanna deal with her bullshit>Eventually fight the space rock and most of what I can do in Act 2 and 3>Have a blood frenzied cat do a solo run as a Fighter, gets to level 22>Bring it to the next Pyrophina fight eith an actual team>Hitting for like 250 damage a turn on its own plus support from the rest of the team, didn't even need to put out the firesWhat a champ. My strongest psychopath.
>>733646859Yeah it's for the skill itself. Rip anon sorry. Good luck. It SUCKS and I wish you good luck again
Step 1: kmsStep 2: jk you're deadStep 3: entire team is zombies
>>733646862luckily for him she only eats cats
>that part in the boneyard where the boss possesess your cat>just so happened to be the supped up alpha I'd been buffing the whole fight>just so happened to be snowing>just so happened that my cat had the hose equipped>cleric and hunter get frozen repeatedly>fighter is left alone fighting for the fate of the teamThat was so fucking kino like straight out of a movie, I've played lots of so called "immersive sims" and they've never come close to feeling as alive as this game does. That party later went on to beat guillotina in 5 turns
>>733645812People don't enjoy watching dogs die as much
so ranger is the best dps or at least most consistent and from what I've played tank, druid, fighter and cleric are all good. But the rest seems like they are much more rng reliant, you either roll well or they can be useless.
>>733647000Nice trips and:>Summon zombies>One of them munches a downed catWell fug me
>>733631834How? Just how were you dealing damage with him
>>733647128>>just so happened to be the supped up alpha I'd been buffing the whole fight>just so happened to be>just so happenednigga.... can you read....
>>733647225I'd say Monk and Butcher are consistently amazing too. Monk can always be a good subdps or main dps, he's fucking great and doesn't even need equipment at all.Butcher is a nice support main dps who can supply heals, flies, and repo or be tanky as fuck which is much appreciated.I've never had them be bad, at most mediocre. Ranger is op tho, but I always only get trap and familiar shit, which I don't like using. reee Especially because the hazards are kinda dogshit, and at worst you get stuck in them yourself
>>733646862i ship it
Man on the Moon is easy as hell wtfThe fights before are much worse
>>733647428The game doesn’t tell you that it just says he’ll get revenge
wait.. should I just be doing quick alley runs with teams of random shittercats just to get retired cats I can pawn off to get a bigger house? only having two rooms is making it hard to manage breeding
>>733647438hunter familiar seem decent and from what I've seen easier to do than necro. I tried a bunch of times to force necro summoner but never got lucky while on hunter one passive and it's at least playable. As for butcher and monk I still have to try them enough to see
>If you lose a run to the charmer boss because she charms a cat, then the next time you face her the cat is an enemyHOLYFUCKINGKINOThis game is godly
>>733647428I understood that something would happen to the cat that killed the boss, but he took damage from the wind then died, the cat that was possessed didn't have any effects on him and wasn't even in range of doing so. I imagine at that point it just rolls a die if no cat dealt the damage
>>733647539Yes. I can't recommend how important it is to get the first house upgrade of 25 cats. You won't just "get a new room", the game pretty much triples how much room you have.
>>733642165>ModeratelyWe must go farther
>>733647428Where does the game tell you this?
Welp, he's here.It was fun while it lasted.
>>733647225butcher is always good, dunno if you have it yet though, genuinely never had a single bad butcher because the stats, basic action and hook are just OP by themselves even if you lowroll abilitiesmonk is also pretty good, fine enough as well on bad days so it's consistentpsychic is almost pure support i, would say even more so than cleric even though it has no heals so it may seem shit at first but it's because you have the wrong mentality for it, it's still a bit on the weaker side overall though because it really has basically no damage most of the time
>>733647534>>733647686The game literally does tell you this. "Will get revenge" implies enough that something will happen with the cat that kills it
the moooooooOOOOOOOooooooon
>>733647731When does revenge translate into>Will possess a cat?I see you've doubled down on being retarded.
>>733647731revenge could mean fucking anything. "revenge" could be it instantly perma-kills the cat that did it or something similar.
>>733647781Because a "dybbuk" is a spirit from old Jewish folklore whos entire thing is possessing a living being. This is common knowledge.
>>733647731The reasonable assumption is they down the cat that gets the killing blow, not force you to do it because he possessed your cat.
>>733645035there are items that synergize with pick ups as wellseems garbage. maybe some class job synergy with butcher
>>733647781What does it translate into then?
>>733646862cute couple
>>733647835>Jewish spirit is incredibly annoying, spiteful, and belongs in hellJesus christ, Edmund
>>733647835>old Jewish folklore>This is common knowledge.we got the triple down folks, will we get the quadruple down?
>>733647835ShieeeettttttNow that's what I call Judeonarrative kino right there.
>>733647781Gee anon I wonder what a spooky cat is gonna do in an area with ghost and zombies everywhereAre you that much of a lobotomite that you need it spelled out for you?Even if he kills the cat that kill him giving him the weakest cat should always be the option I miss when people uses their brain to figure shit out
>>733647879>Isn't cultured at all in any mythologies>calls others retardedPick up a book maybe?
>>733647835Most people don't know like folklore
>>733647526If I had to guess, the moon fights are hard and the midboss can injure the cats so that first timers or those not knowing the boss gimmick will be tense about their survival
>>733647905That's not the point, follow the posts.Anon said it tells you that the game explicitly tells you it will possess someone.This is patently untrue.
What would be your #1 advice to somebody that just bought the game?inb4 just play the game you double faggot
>Retarded zoomer>Uncultured swineIs this what fill /v/ these days?
>>733647974Cats are disposable.
>>733631886Its pretty mediocre unless you have a spell that demands a lot of mana and youre planning to save it up or you have a niche skill like Invert and are planning to swap your boosted Charisma into something more usable.
>>733647751Don't come to moon hard path tomorrow
>>733647974Just play the game and stop being a shitter who needs """advice""" or "top ten gaming tips" to even start playingMatter of fact, just refund and watch a youtube playthrough instead g
>Listen to anon in previous thread, second attempt on Tina 2 and focus the head instead of the body>Necro spawns zombies every round>Kittens focus Tina's dead head and can't eat itFight was definitely far easier than killing the body first, but glad to have that out of the way for a bit
>>733647974despite the name you don't need to stress the breeding for the first few acts
how do I kill the moonface dude?
>>733647974pay attention to enemies by reading their tooltips and looking at their attack ranges
>>733647974Don't get attached.
>>733647956You retards are why theres yellow paint on the crates
>>733647974If you fuck up in a fight you can quit the game and try it again without penalty.
>>733647428>>733647731>>733647905Hey, savescummer LARPer. Still trying to impress everyone else and making these threads unbearable? Go on another furniture run.
>>733647974Donate cats a lot. You can have them fight each other so that they proc injuries as one NPC only accept injured cats. You csn do short runs to get loot and cats who count as retired as one NPC accept retired cats
Why is Butch so horny? He just referred to the necromancer class as the ''BTGGF who won't stop sucking of your dreams''This dude definitely fucks all the cats that you send to him
>>733648082Don't know who you're talking about, I don't own the game, just watch streams but it seems intuitive enough for me.
>>733648074And you're the reason our literacy rates are going down.
>>733647428Actually, how does Dybbuk work with solo runs?
>TeIN chapteraww that's sweet>The BloatHELLO HUMAN RESOURCES???
>>733648097he's a prototypical tough guy
>>733648124-_-
>>733648093>At act 3>Still only level 1 upgrade for the house because I just don't have that many retired catsThis sucks, the amount that hobo needs is way too many, and it will probably double too.
>>733647606Necro should be played as a leech merchant ngl, the summoner build for Necro is dogshit. I wouldn't bother with it. I got 190 leeches before on Pyrophina since leech spam is that good since it takes from the hp. So look at this for example, just leeching that fucker would end the fight >>733646776Necro is comfy if you understand that sucking damage is more important than the raw damage since its a lot more consistent to get off. Onions milk with the 3x Leech passive with the one that restacks upon basic and youll see some truly disgusting work being doneIt can do other stuff but that's what I like most about it lol. I did solo Dybbuk with a necro too>>733648051Make him hit himself or get inside the mouth with a cat to make the hands do it
It's not just your kitty style that I likeNo, it's the way that you taste
>>733648097dont forget he's tink's ex-conjoined twin
>>733647974the game is called mewgenics because you use generations of cats, so don't get too attached to individual cats but do get attached to their bloodlineif you hover over enemies for a second you get a brief description of what they do, always read themmage is complete shit, you didn't just "get unlucky" it almost always is a waste of time, never pick it after you unlock the 5th classgoing on 3 cat runs is viable to get retired super powered cats because 1 less cat means more level ups for the rest (you'll want them eventually, you'll know why when it happens)always read your other abilities and passives to fish for potential synergy when your cats level upagain, read what the fucking enemies do, i can't stress the importance of this enough
Does Persuasion Device work on daddy sharks?
>>733648256
>>733648212He defied reality to torment us
>>733647731read nigga>>733647635
>>733648315yesbut they will still eat your cats if they're bleeding
>>733648315Works on everything but bosses
>>733648328I don't fucking want to do mini-runs, god damnit.
>>733648315aye
>>733648298>Savescummer LARPer doesn't even have pic relatedKWABBro is LARPing that if you ever lose to Dybbuk or Daddy Shark, you're a scrub, meanwhile the guy has been playing on easy mode the whole way through. Absolute state.
>>733648315Yes and they will one hit bosses. But if no enemies near, they will eat your cat
How are people still seething over DybbukWhat will these people do when they get to Act 3?
>>733647974Press control during a fight
>>733648397mage haters are retarded but your boogeyman fixation is also retarded
>>733648268>Necro should be played as a leech merchantI haven't really had much luck with the class but I'm still in act 2. I was trying to get summoner since I was able to add a boss to my party and wanted to see how good that was since my run ended last time I was able to do it. As for leech I already read that it can be good just haven't gotten a busted one yet to try
>>733648097I fuck the cats too, so it works out
Fuck this nigga
>>733648486Just stop being a cunt and you'll stop being called out.
>>733648545All the real niggas hate this cunt
>>733648546its a popular game thats getting threads and posters constantlythere isnt one guy you're targeting and pwning. shut the fuck up with your schizo babble
Is there any good necromancer build where you kill yourself to cast some op spells or passive? All the time I roll something that require the necro to die I see 0 synergy to make it work
>>733648637>I'm also acting like a cunt that tells other people they're scrubs for losing to bosses that are widely agreed to be difficultThen you'll get called out too. Learn manners.
>>733648051if you mean moon final boss, stay on the sides to avoid wind, dont ever enter in front of his mouth or IKs, don't stay in front of his hands on new round. if you don't have way to dispell his brace or tons of damage to over come it, hitting a hand turns it around, and hitting it from the back sends it flying. send it against the boss to get rid of the brace and go damage him. on normal mode as long as you manipulate the hands there isn't much threat (on hard on the other hand...)>>733647974most roguelite basics apply; getting fucked by random events is part of the game. if you're not confident in your team, go home instead of trying to push through another location, it's always better to return with underleveled cats and gear over losing it, especially since just having a retired cat lets you donate to room increase guy. also, don't hesitate using your equipment, that counts both during the campaign as well as equipping your cats. until you have large item limit, your item storage will likely be bottleneck and you'll have to keep trashing good amount of loot anyway
>>733648545It was giving me trouble until I started just aggressively positioning cats at his diagonals and never even with him. Too many builds can start a chain of sucking up and spitting out but if you never stand in cardinal directions and destroy the pills with cats that can't attack diagonally he just bounces around building up poison which is easily countered with any healing. Like I am not kidding when I say just never position on a cat in a line with him, your better off completely passing a turn and doing nothing in a lot of cases.
>>733648397yes anon if you pick the shit class every time you'll be stuck on act 2 for 2+ weeksi beat jurassic with mage btw but he was extremely mediocre and hunter/butcher/jester did all the work even though i picked mage specifically because i had a cat with an inherited passive and active that should've made mage extremely strong (monk's mind breaker and fist of fate)
>>733648710>dont ever enter in front of his mouth or IKsIt's actually not if you have a tanky cat with regen it can even help but I wouldn't recommend doing it the first time you fight him. I had a fighter survive inside him for like 4 turns and every turn I got to remove the brace for free by using the special spell being in his mouth gives you.
>>733648760I have the core and moon badge on every class. You wouldn't know what that's like. Here you were bragging about how you don't get team wiped for a week straight and you've been doing furniture runs to grind and playing with the braindead team compositions this entire time. I'll keep this in mind next time you feel like bragging.
Okay Eagles are kill on sight, these guns are crazy
>>733648710>stay on the sidesdont do thisyou need to keep your cats in line with the moon so that you can hit the hands into himif the hands fall out of line with the moon you're forced to feed a cat to it, which not all builds can handle
>sharpen doesn't increase monk's damage despite his basic attack being considered an equipment slotuse a monk they saidMonks are good they said
>>733648051Get in its mouth with high HP cat. The boss doesn't instakill it. Instead it does 5-6 damage a turn. The cat in mouth gets special command to order the hands to launch at the face to deal damage and remove the brace. If no high HP cats, launch the hands manually by turning them to face the head and hit from behind
>>733648926His basic attack is not at all considered a weapon. Its more accurate to say he can't equip a weapon. Nothing that effects weapons effects his basic attack.
>>733642165bro your "warrior" caste has 2 str. Even my mage caste has more physical aptitude
>>733648673If you get a necro with midnight (or whatever the low mana AOE lifesteal buff spell is called) you now basically have your main healer taken care of. They can usually spam it two or three times a turn and your entire team will just keep stealing HP from their basic actions. Also good for proccing "cast 2 / 3 / X" whatever passives since it is cheap as dirt.Teleport to a corpse is probably the best ability in the game (in every fight that isn't just against one boss with no adds).
>>733649028Shut up
>>733648673The issue is those builds are very all or nothing, once you try to go them you can't really pivot. They are also really high risk and the reward is frankly low. If Edmund really wanted people to go for them he should have given Necros more default corpse health.
>>733649063rude....
>>733648879bro what are you talking about? do you have schizophrenia? i'm not who you think i am whoever that is>and playing with the braindead team compositions nigger i was playing jester and mage it doesn't gets any memier than thatjester was complete shit most of the run as well but jester being jester i randomly got a good ability and suddenly he's goodthe only class i pretty much always bring is butcher because i love hooking and diagonal melees so much
>>733649137would be a good buffI think the necro corpse build is pretty good but its quite a risk to run
>>733649047I think you misunderstood him. He's asking about the skills that get buffed when you're down or the skills that down your necro on purpose. None of what you're talking about are those skills.
>>733644865HOCH HOBEN AM HIMMELLLLLL
>>733649220Its too early in the morning for this brain shit. Time for more coffee.
That thief miniboss in the desert is pure feline AIDS
So how does the double kaiju fight work? Do you just pick one to kill?
>>733649213Just give Necro that +6 corpse health mask baked in.
>>733648673I just bring a stray with Play Dead to be Necro, then hope for the best. My best combo is We Are One + Play Dead so you immediately deal damage equals to your HP to all enemies on turn 1.
What perspective is this game in ? What do you call it. I'm not sure
>>733649213Yeah the issue is there are a lot of big enemies that will run into you, do trample, do push-back damage and then attack and blow the corpse up in a single turn. I guess maybe in theory you're supposed to be sustained by leeches you put on someone before you go down but its all just so much set up for a high risk strat that feels bad. Getting downed just doesn't feel good so having it happen on purpose needs to carry a higher, more consistent pay off.
>>733649340Isometric, cat management screen is a cross section
>SENOR POOPYPANTS
>>733645035high int is good and this supports ping/pickup psychic like crazy
>>733649340isn't it called isometric?
>>733649047>If you get a necro with midnightyou mean full moon? either way all the things you suggested dont't really interact with being dead or killing yourself>>733649137the problem is the class has some of those and they end up being a wasted active or especially passive. How do I use something like spawn demon kitten on death without play dead or a cleric with revive or anything to make it worth the slot. It ends being just rng that eats away slots unless you either get lucky or able to breed for this specific purpose
>>733649383Thanks >>733649398I didn't know ;_;
>>733649340This is literally the very definition of isometric, and it's worse off for it. It should have been pseudo isometric (It would have been called isometric anyways) with a more visible angle. The battlefield is way too busy from a visual standpoint.
>>733641178It would've specified it deals damage. "Kill" keyword directly kills you, with no counterplay as far as I know
>bring mage to the future>almost every enemy reflect projectiles or is magic immunewhats even the point of this class man
>>733649468Being a mana battery for an actual class instead
>>733649312Yeah that's why I said it. Using that mask was the only time I got a corpse build to go off without feeling like I was flipping a coin every boss fight.>>733649431>he problem is the class has some of those and they end up being a wasted active or especially passiveYeah some of those could work to support the build if there were more reliable ways to down yourself and that ends being the problem, it needs too much set up no matter which passive/active you pick first it will need something else and you aren't guranteed to get it.
>>733633135>It's another obvious MTG reference
>>733649468Just so you know, tile targeted spells are not projectiles. The mage is actually possibly the best class at wiping the Uberhumans as Mage can hit them without being reflected or bounced off.
Phantom Mask says it turns into an invincible familiar upon taking damage. Is this some dumb trap like "we never told you it would be friendly" or some shit like that? Granted, it's rare, but still.
>Get a stray cat event in the middle of the run>Beat the moon>It doesn't count as a collarless winFug :D
>>733649646It's friendly. It resets every fight though, which has both upsides and downsides.
>>733649646nah it's for real, i got it oncepretty useful, worst it can do to you is block lines of sights/tiles but that's a given for summons
>>733641479Allegedly the game throws more bad events at you, if your previous run was successful. All of the events for your current run were already generated before you put the cats in the box, I've tested that.
>>733649665Gotta bring it from the start hossCollarless cats end up being pretty okay between breeding and the Path/Soul unlocks
>>733649194>i'm not who you think i am whoever that isThen why did you reply to >>733648397 as if you were? Low IQ brown.
>>733649665Yeah any cheevos/unlocks that say "Beat with" should really say "Start the adventure with and beat" because that's what they actually require.
>>733645628Yes. It's pretty difficult. You can get fucked if you get unfortunate bots like morana in the bumblefoot fight.
>>733649617Its the best roguelike to come out in ages, it deserves to be FOTM
>>733649543>it needs too much set up no matter which passive/active you pick first it will need something else and you aren't guranteed to get ityeah from what I've seen this is the biggest problem for many possible builds. I hope an eventual dlc or update will lower a bit the rng to make those build more achievable without making the cat useless otherwise. Even something like choosing one ability could make the difference
>>733646016>With a low roll being the uzi,This is actually the best roll if you have the passive that lets you increase the damage of your weapon instead of throwing it because the plus 1 damage is on each hit of the uzi. By turn 5 you're firing it twice per turn for 45 damage each fire.
>>733649710So is killing a cat immediately on a run a viable strat to reset the event rng?
>>733641552>>733641690You're replying to a guy that just got to the caves for the first time.Obviously he doesn't know yet which events and consequences have the most disastrous effects.Fucking retard.
>>733630959>dude what if your run ended because of an event you did not even have the option of not going to
Rank the classes
>>733647835>esoteric jewish folklore is common knowledge
METEOR CRASH!METEOR CRASH!METEOR CRASH!
>>733649948Fighter > Everything else
>>733649948They all suck if you get shitty RNG. I even just had a butcher end up totally useless before 2nd zone, so I just scrapped the whole team
>>733641026>a game with a 100+ hour campaign is "unfinished"actually maybe 2-5 hours if not for bullshit metaprogression grind and RNG
What conditions unlock new classes? I've only gotten cleric and necro so far
Godzilla raped me hard
>>733650092They're all for progressing the acts Doing act 2 nets you another four classes
>>733630959I know nothing about this game. Why is it named after a jewish evil spirit?
>>733649948S: fighter, ranger, butcher A: everyone elseconsistent damage > inconsistent damage every class has busted bullshit in their kit, it's just inconsistent to get
>the dino disappears from your home after you bring it to the moonshit game I want a refund
are there any dogs in this game
>>733633135Half of the time I end up with a dud cat anyway, or a sidequest item basically forces me to play that way. At least with that disorder you can use them as a nuke against the hardest boss fight of the run.
>>733650280Chubs n nubs
>>733649872It depends on what it actually does and how deep into losing you need to go. If it's just 1 less "broken leg with no choices," I would say no. I've had a long win streak but I still got the "4 free candies" event, so it might not actually change much. I think the best deterrent is to simply have all 7s for base stats to prevent getting fucked over by the ones with stat checks, assuming the stat checks are honest. Also clicking the "walk away" option when available.
>>733650280Apparently it's canon that every dog in this world is decapitated. Just Edmund reddit things.
>>733649729well i didn't register the fact thay you thought i was a specific person i thought you just wanted to call me a shitter in a weird and convoluted waytis' an anonymous imageboard after all
>>733648202It's pretty easy. If you're solo, your cat will kill all your followers when possessed. It then uses a unique skill called "stop hitting yourself" and Dybbuk just leaves your body.I think it's pretty lame. The game has ways to avoid getting possessed(after image + mini-me), but you don't even need to bother. It could have at least drained your solo cat's health to 1 as well.
>>733647663I've met this nigger only once but one of my cats had the "kill 1 enemy at start" and he was picked as the sacrificial lamb.
>bring druid or necro>give them a neverstone>dont care if they/their bird die>get a free health pool to tank round 1>get a ton of levelsneverstone might be one of the best items in the game and you can farm them consistently
>>733630959I wish I could refund this dogshit game.Act 1 will have you thinking that its a normal, fair TRPG where victory is decided by good plays and long term planning.Act 2 and onwards (which also effects act 1 as they get harder if you progress) the game just becomes a RNG check with metaknowledge as a requirement.Strategy goes out the window as you face units that just do random stuff that you would not know about until you are fucked over, as you receive items that require specific upgrades/items that you dont even know exist.Its more like a Darkest Dungeon ripoff than a Into the breach or JA2
>>733644260>perfect>inbred
>>733649243HULK HOGAN I'M HIMMLER
The man on the moon boss is either a walk in the park of piss out the ass frustrating
>>733650480Despite the anonymous nature the average anon has an obssession with the identity and persona of the othersGenerally amounting to imagining it in his mind and assuming it to be trueJust nu4chan things
>check steam forums>someone bitching about the difficulty spike of Radical Rat>another whining about Chubs and Nubs
>>733650695Into the Breach is a masterpiece of tactical thinking, this is more about wacky shit happening and you having to adapt to it and getting stories to tell about how you fucked the game or how the game fucked you. There's fun in both approaches.
I did it, shitter bros! I beat the game.First time rolled usable Tinker (tech 2, research, duct tape, mages missile) and Necro with lifesteal buff. The thief is the working horse of the run. >spitting cures heat and burn>usable to trigger hand slap over and over again
>>733650695What enenies you malding about that do random things?
>>733650413>Just Edmund reddit things.You mean 4chan? We love kots here not dogs.TOTAL DOG DEATH
>>733650807Congrats!But Moon aint the final boss.Not even the last boss of act 2
>>733633135But is the best MTG card!
>>733650695sounds like seethetheres very little randomness in battles and a lot of rooms are designed as puzzle boxes that are passed by having enough patience to read what enemies do and where they move
>>733650837Not him but how about the blind enemies? Or the alien UFOs? Or the stem fags? Or any enemy that causes confusion or has a chance of dodging? There's plenty of randomness in this game. That's kind of the point.
>>733650894You think Edmund plays nu-MTG? Is there a chance there's an Oko reference in here somewhere? Or a Zenith Flare reference?
reminder there's an existing thread once this one dies. disregard aqua.
Fuck bats, stupid overtuned pieces of shit
>>733650695>RNG check Not rng, unless you refuse to take part in the eugenics aspect of the game. You know, the mechanic that the entire game is named after.>with metaknowledge as a requirementNot metaknowledge, just knowledge. That's how roguelikes work. You encounter something for the first time and probably lose. You think about why you lose and next time you take action to avoid that.If these are your problems with the game, I'm confused on why you bought it. It's not hiding that it's a rougelike. It's definitely not telling you to avoid the breading cats for stats. You really should refund it.
>>733641479You are not your cats. Getting negative events that make a run harder or positive events that make a run easier is not fundamentally good or bad. When you get good luck, try not to waste it and lose anyway. When you get bad luck, try to overcome it and win anyway.Whether you succeed or fail, the struggle is where the fun comes from.I genuinely don't get these complaints.
>>733650896Your mage badges, bro? You DO more than play as braindead compositions, right?
>>733650889credits rolled. I won unc.
Does Blood Frenzy trigger on kills done by your minions or is it only from damage done directly by the cat?
>>733651038non-sequitur reply
>>733650729Low inbreeding is literally irrelevant.
>>733651125it's like 15% chance of defects on all offspring dude
>>733650280Cerberos miniboss in hell (decapitated)
>>733650979Do consider that Triskaidekaphobia is 10 years old now, maybe he still played on that dayThere is Ancestal Recall and Wrath of God
>>733651125While true, any cat with a negative mutation should have been immediately trashed.
Welllll you take a cat and rub it on a cat then that cat gets all fatNot to sure what's up with that
Breaking the roll of pennies item with tinkerer gives you like 60 coins
>>733651150That's low and then on top of that some defects end up being useful. So that means less than a 15 percent chance of a baby being useless because of it and cats can always just have more babies if you have a good breeding pair. I have intentionally cultivated a line of Downsyndrome cats and I tried to do the same with my primordial dwarf but he never passed it on before dying sadly. Inbreeding truly matter very little.
>>733651184There's also Braingeyser and the Jitte itself. I love the Jitte, by the way. Great item for a common.
>>733651263No, I don't mean neutral defects, I mean the ones that get a red arrow and are only negative stats.
>>733647974Furniture boxes are more important than treasure chests
>>733650912Blind enemies go to nearest unit. Stem clots randomness is in your favour and non existant if you burstGambits head tattoo vaguely implies what the attack isAlien ufos only do possible orders. It cant do annihilaser if nobody is close after movement.Fuck the bats though
>>733651082>Sounds like seethe, just play the same braindead compositions as me every time.
>>733648847He spits the cat out eventually and if they have a couple points of brace it does almost no damageThe fight is very low damage unless you're hitting the hands from the front like a retard
>>733651290Some of those are still beneficial. I have one that just gives my cat trample, I really don't get why its even classified as a defect but it is. Also it's a chance for both negative mutations and ailments, downsyndrome came from inbreeding my cats to begin with.
>>733631685Its because dipshits use a 3 constitution 3 speed cat and wonder why they're constantly getting injured when their cat has 8-16hp and takes 3 turns to finally attack someone
Ah fuck I hate this event>B-b-b-but muh good mutationsNah, shit's gay
>>733650280Some of the “cats” are clearly dogs and pigs
>>733651367I'm not the retard living rent free in your head you dumb schizo
>>733651150>15% chance of defectsYou forgot to consider how big the chance of not inheriting good mutations when breeding with strays is. Which is why you should outbreed sparingly.
Think this OST will help legitimize Ridiculon? According to Edmund they were bummed and desperate for the game to be made after it was canceled because they needed the income, but now it's one of the most celebrated parts of the game.
>>7336431927, 7, 7, 7, 7, 7, ... 6!?Instant tube, sorry.
>>733651402It's a defect because your control over movement is limited and trample will hurt your allies when walking through. That said, it's definitely the best defect.Disorders are intentionally good(situationally). It's supposed to be the final stage of your eugenics program to min-max your cats.
>>733651427I don't pick it when I go to the crater, the mutations are just going to fuck over my cats.
>>733651459So where's your mage badges?
>>733651491it's weird because I thought they were a local band edmund liked and they basically got forced into making a vg soundtrack, but now their original career is gone?
Man in the Moon is the hardest chapter 2 boss by far, takes forever to kill yes I'm aware of the strat of feeding it a cat and getting the hands to punch it, still takes forever unless you have good damage)
>>733651427Are you retarded?Unless you're using some ubercats that were bred carefully through multiple generations to have a specific set of abilities, that event basically speedruns the entire eugenics program.
25 hours in and i have not yet opened the the very first roomdoes this nigga expect me to farm at ally again and again
what's the best glass for the loner gun quest?currently only have the basic 4 + thief, necro, cleric
can someone take a photo of all the classes on the menu screen including jester alongalso another in the house with a shitty cat with no con and low strengthi need it for something and im at work reeee i cant find a good picture of it on google that isnt a tierlist
What does Super Crow do? Just make its reposition and knockback skills stronger?
>>733651642>where are your mage badges>hasn't posted his ownNTA but posters like you are so dumb
>>733633821You can just sacrifice a shitty stray cat to save some extra time bro, the game doesn't punish you for doing this
>>733651675Their career has been being a largely unsuccessful band that kept the lights on because Edmund kept hiring them to make music for his games.
>>733651553I just breed imperfect cats with the ones that have a 7 in that skill and use the perfect 7s in battle. 6/7 7s are enough for breeding purposes
>>733651740can you not mouse over it to read the upgraded abilities?both the crow's abilities are upgraded
>>733651740Higher stats, longer range on the wind, the reposition skill gives more options of where you can land. It's pretty good.
>>733651696you can also manually reposition the hands and then hit them twice to throw them against the boss face (in practice this never works right, especially if you have familiars which you really should)
>>733651006>Not rngnigga you can get an event you cannot skip that just lowers your constitution by 5 lmao
MTGfag here, this game is fucking loaded with MTG refrences
>>733651841No because I haven't taken it, I was wondering if it's actually worth it.
>>733651847I had Druid (Elk form) and was tossing the hands straight into the face, then smacking with my Butcher. Still wasn't enough as I was foolish enough to pick Tinkerer this run which (as usual) couldn't contribute anything.
>>733651847It works fine. I feel like people like you just weirdly struggle to see diagonal lines in a game like this. You know you can hit them diagonally right? You can also see turn order so just plan on repositioning and hitting them with two cats who go one after another with no familiars in between if you truly don't have a cat with the ability to hit them twice/hit them diagonally.
>>733651847>unless you have [thing that fucks up the fight]summons on crater path fuck up both the bossesthey're far from essential
>>733651890It changes aeroblast to have more knockback and be a full line AoE and Flutter to be 2-3 spaces instead of a fixed 3.Also if anyone was curious super crow does not give non Druids a crow
is this game actually good or just a meme ?big fan of isaac but it seems that it´s TOO RNGesusy and the artstyle seems very slacking.
>>733651860Luck stat effects the events you get. Save scumming also effects the events you get.You should have bred luckier cats.Also, if your cats were good enough, you can win every fight in one round. Constitution is the worst stat.
>>733651890It doesn't tell you the abilities when you mouseover the option in the levelup screen?I thought it did
>>733648328I think this is the most annoying part of the game, the number of cats they ask for scales to quickly it should add like 4 or 5 cats each level
>>733652006>Also, if your cats were good enoughentirely dependent on rng
>>733651983>Also if anyone was curious super crow does not give non Druids a crowYeah this makes it nearly useless as a passed on skill to a kitten
>>733651696>>733651847You guys should get builds that focus specifically on hitting units twice a turn, by whatever means necessary. Refreshing actions, reusable weapons plus normal attack, etc. The Man on the Moon gets done within 6 rounds if you just have the hands smack his own face constantly.This is part of why Hunter, who is already one of the best classes in the game, is particularly insane in the moon. That and shit like webm related. Every time I go to the moon, I bring a hunter.
>sacrifice tank to unlock throbbing domain>nearly wipe on a random hallway fight due to bullshit enemy gimmick >druid proceeds to rape throbbing king in 5 turns due to squrriels doing 12 damage a hit
>he drank the piss watershidd :DDD
>>733652209what the fuck, I never picked up that skill because I didn't know knockback allowed it to keep hitting, or is this just because of low gravity?
>>733652075Just make it a Druid then
>>733652209I had a hunter but all I got was brambles and infested
>>733652072>ENTIRELY dependent on rngWrong. It's dependent on comfort and simulation.Every single one of my cats is a base 7 8+ mutation power house. This isn't because "I was lucky". It's because I'm not braindead.
Is it possible to get two identical furniture items?
FEELING SUPER GREATWE ARE NEVER LATELYING IN THE GROUNDNEVER MAKE A SOUND
>>733652265It's only because of low gravity. Each arrow pushes him further to get BTFO by the next.The skill is insane in all circumstances, though. This is just it at its best.
>>733652295the whole point of passing down skills is to create hybrid classes tho, it's not like its an S tier Druid passive either so there's no good reason to carry it over.
Butcher with Harpoon turning auto-move bosses into a joke is always funny.
>>733652329I have two pineapples, which annoyed me. There shouldn't be repeats, but maybe it's just for specific small items.
>>733652301>Every single one of my cats is a base 7 8+ mutation power house.all of that to be wiped by a single event you had no choice over lmao
>>733651727pls help>yes i have this saved on my work computer
I always get incredible runs when I'm doing a quick one to get money or something and get absolute shit runs when I'm trying to actually progress
>>733652375it's the obvious use but not the whole pointyou're more likely to get synergistic skills if you send it to the same class
>>733652209>This is part of why Hunter, who is already one of the best classes in the game, is particularly insane in the moonUnless you brick your run with tower defence (and rubber arrows for good measure) like I did on my first Moon run.
>eating rock enemies instakill an you if you have rock aspectGuess I'll just never take a tank on that route again then
>>733652006>>733652301Why are you pretending that you don't have to go through RNG a bunch of times to breed your uber cats?You guys can just show off your cats without pretending that people don't have valid reasons to vent about this game. Edmund wants people to vent. You don't need to pretend this game is Into the Breach. Bitching is part of the fun.
4th run in a row that I've ended early simply because the level ups have been fucking awful.I know it's all RNG, but it suddenly feels like I turned on "never get any passives or skills that synergize ever" mode.
>>733643192>sneedAmazin
>>733652495QRD? I'm not seeing it. How does that brick it?A lot of enemies on the moon work at close distance. Tower defense would be pushing them back so they can never do jackshit. What's the nonbo I'm missing?
>>733652431>all of that to be wiped by a single event you had no choice over lmaonot true. As previously explained in >>733652006It's pretty clear that you can't defend any of your positions and are just seething.I've wiped twice in this game. The first time was because I came to this general and learned that an NPC only shows up if you die. The second was a solo run where I died to the Rift boss as a jester.
>>733644032As far as I can tell, you're always better off just spamming more of the summon than bothering to try and upgrade or heal them or whatever. Even with half of the active abilities being worthless it's still a strong class because summon spam is great, and the passive abilities that buff them are also good since they don't take away mana to use on even more summons.
>>733652643It makes the boss hard to punch itself
how to monk?
>>733652643>Tower defense would be pushing them back so they can never do jackshitExactly, it's incredibly smooth sailing until the boss until your tower defence starts hitting the hands making it almost impossible to position them.It's probably still doable with enough effort but I was on my last savescum that run and Steven can't play that boss worth shit.
Hey, everyone. Just search "Mewgenics" on the catalog. The thread with Zodiac and Gambit. No Aquajeet there.
>>733652757he plays himself, just try it out. hes fun one of my favourite classes now beside necrohe can be naked dont worry
If a reward item from side quest broke, do you need to clear the quest again to get it?
>>733652757have 7 cats punch
>>733652757Heard you have to build your team around him and he will carry hard.
>>733652757Tank playstyle Equip on-hit effects and take skills that generate barrier.DPS playstyle: Go all in on either str/dex and play him as a multi-hitting fighter/archer.
>>733652757with an innate soul link skill I got to the end of act 3 for the first time, but that's basically RNG
>>733652436>>733651727
>>733653038Appreciate it a lot thank you anon.
>>733653038wait, collarless shows up in that screen? how?
Got good start with Heavy Shot ranger with the monocle making attacks guaranteed to hit. The first event in Alley and the ranger was forced to take Deja Vu. Had 2 previous runs being OP so I guess game thought I was in need of hardship
>>733653107i unfortunately have no cats shit enough for the other pic, unless 5/4s are bad enough
First time getting here. What do these do?I'm asking because I don't want to get steakmunded.
>>733653132Collarless has boss defeat unlock marks
>>733653038Beat a run with a collarless cat. There's skill and item unlocks for doing so.
It chooses a weather pattern
>>733653156Honestly that works yeah, 4 is low enough imoyoure a lifesaver, o7
>>733653178Gives you a weather.Do Shimmer.
>>733653178Shimmer gives you a random mutation every fight and a random status effect every round
>>733653178Meteor Shower hits random tiles. Geo makes rock levitate and hit unit who stops movement in their direct line of sight. Shimmer hives mutations
>>733653132i think it's because i beat the moon with it once>>733653178the shimmer gives everyone random positive and negative effects (stat-ups and downs, shields, etc.) but more importantly it gives mutations so if you want them (you should want them) then it's excellentmeteor shower makes is so meteors fall randomly, it's whatever, geomagnetic storm makes rocks float, it's also kinda whatever >>733653274it's this one
>>733647372the great thing is if you zombify your own cats you can still control them normally
Let’s try one more time (One more time.)Set this machine to rewind dniwer ot enihcam siht tesIt’s not so hard (It’s not so hard!)I think this part goes right here (Sew it on! Sew it on!)Just a little glue, you’ll look like new!(Oh no!) ...Well that doesn’t look quite right(Oh so dark...) I probably shouldn’t attempt this at night
>>733653420what the fuck, it's just a free resurrect?
>>733653481cant be healed but yeah basically
>>733653481Yes, but the cat is "dead" as far as leveling, clear rewards, and returning home.
>>733653141What's deja vu?
>>733653392Yeah, she's actually perfect for what I was writing and needed it for, appreciate lots anon. Thank you
>>73365362610% chance the cat fails to do the action or movement you tell it to do.
>>733653626disorder, 10% chance of skipping an action, is cleared after the run endsyou can get it from an event but you also get it forced on you if you savescum too much
>>733653848>>733653887>10%>consistently triggers at leasr 50% of timesi wonder
>>733653279>>733653342>>733653348>>733653392Thanks, got some decent mutations out of it.Also goddamn, the boss song is a bop.
>>733654286yeah the shimmer and the OST makes up for the crater being CBT and having shit rewards (i.e. no furniture) otherwise
>all my cats have 6 or 7 speed>elite rat in the lab still goes first>chain attacks and downs one cat instantlyo-ok then
I wish the maps were a bit more random instead of having the same set nodes every time
>>733654605i'd agree but i also like the consistency of roughly knowing what rewards you'll get
