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I'm so excited for MapleStory Classic World, I hope it releases this year
What are your hopes for Classic World?
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>>733642740
>What are your hopes for Classic World?
You tell me. It's going to be the same poorly thought out mechanics it was years ago without the community to prop it up.
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>>733643015
They already made a ton of changes, no more HP washing, assassins aren't nearly as strong anymore, warriors/mages don't need to rush to get their HP/MP skills...
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nobody has the free time for maple Classic, they'd be filtered by 3rd job advancement
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I hope it comes out before 2027.
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>>733644459
>3rd job advancement
Not classic.
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>>733644513
is theres no 3rd job nobody is gonna give a shit lmao
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>>733644561
Hear me out: 2.5nd jobs.
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>>733642740
What is the point of this if private servers exist with classic experience? This is really only for the cucked Koreans who will get sent to jail for using a private server. It's not even like classic was that good. You die insanely fast and it takes forever to level up. The only true fond memory I have is monster carnival. If the entire game was monster carnival, I wouldn't have quit at 53. They couldn't even capture the magic again with the second one.
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>>733645937
>What is the point of this if private servers exist with classic experience?
much larger community
new classic-friendly content
balancing changes
events
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>>733642740
Is it going to be on Steam?
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>>733642740
I hope the p2w is toned down a notch
But we all know it's not going to happen.
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>>733642740
I hope it magically becomes actually classic because it isn't at all and I'm not playing it only only retarded faggots who should die would consider playing this
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>>733647512
Pets and gachapon will be in the game for sure, we can only hope the gachapon rewards aren't as broken
I don't know if I would consider 2x cupons to be p2w though
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>>733648873
>I don't know if I would consider 2x cupons to be p2w though
You're a drooling monkey fucktard, then.
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>>733645937
This. The early 2000s internet is never coming back and the game is going to show itself that its going to be shit.
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>>733644459
apparently they made grinding easier
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>>733645937
Is there a private server for maplestory 2?
Its probably not worth fiddling with but i liked the aesthetic.
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>>733651928
Not that I've heard of... there's too many things fundamentally wrong with that game for private server devs to fix.
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>>733651928
that game sucked, bro
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>>733642740
That it’s good
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>>733651928
Reddit says there's Lith.
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Assassins got nerfed hard
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>>733657979
Jump throwing might get fixed since every class with a ranged attack had fucked up targeting ranges in the first beta. Damage nerfs were deserved and I drink deeply of assassin tears every time they cry about it.
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>>733658490
>mfw classic isn't classic
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they really got you retards waiting for years for a game where the only thing they put resources into is giving their cash shop modernized infrastructure

woahhh they changed the text on the final attack code to do more damage!
classic hypeee!!!!!

watch the niggers at nexon completely ignore this game after a week where botters and vac hacks run rampant and bugs are ignored because "its part of the classic experience"
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>>733657979
Wait, archers now fire at point blank?
>>733658996
I wouldn't have it any other way, return to classic is what I've been asking for since they put pirates in there. Out of all the companies with good games locked in the past at least this one lets us have it back.
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>>733659505
Apparently they can after maxing Power Knockback; they added a slow to the skill to give it a reason to exist after that. Mobbing skills for both 2nd job archers went down from 6 to 4 targets, probably as an exchange.
Assassins still have minimum range.
>>733658996
The funniest thing about your shitpost is that they actually managed to make Final Attack worse.
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>>733659891
Are mages nerfed in any significative way? In particular Ice/Lightning.
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>>733660137
still gay
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>>733660137
Afaik only Cleric got gutted, which is a good thing otherwise half the server would play as one.
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>>733660137
Thunderbolt deals less damage but has a chance to "electrocute", which is basically stun
Cold Beam deals more damage
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>>733660137
Magic attack formula is changed so Int isn't weighed equally; meaning luckless is dead.
I/L didn't get damage nerfs but some very annoying changes: Cold Beam slows instead of freezing, and Thunder Bolt has a random chance to stun.
F/P poison is no longer percentage based and runs off your stats. That means no more cheese training.
Cleric heal massively nerfed along with MP eater. Holy arrow was buffed to compensate; it's almost the same as F/P's minus the DoT. Worth mentioning that 1st job has a passive to increase MP potion values by 20%.
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>>733642740
>What are your hopes for Classic World?
anon frens to play the game with
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>>733660421
It’s not even really gutted, it's just no longer the objective best class to make with no room for discussion.
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>>733660543
>>733660487
>>733660421
Those are all nice changes. What is everyone playing?
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>>733660543
>F/P poison is no longer percentage based and runs off your stats. That means no more cheese training.
Also Poison Breath now hits up to 4 enemies, and Fire Arrow can hit up to 3 enemies, meaning F/P went from having no multi-target skills to only having multi-target skills, which is kinda funny
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>>733660756
Does that make it broken in El Nath and such?
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>>733660756
Fire (and Holy) arrow will hit one target three times if nothing else is in range, so they get the best of all worlds. F/P stocks are pretty high.
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>>733660543
>Magic attack formula is changed so Int isn't weighed equally; meaning luckless is dead.
what does this mean? i've never played luk mage
>F/P poison is no longer percentage based and runs off your stats. That means no more cheese training.
Explain this too please.
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>>733642740
Hoping Paladin is strong, otherwise I'll go back to good ol' reliable I/L mage.
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>>733660938
>what does this mean? i've never played luk mage
in old MapleStory 1 INT = 1 Magic Attack, so if a staff/wand gave you 100 Magic Attack but required 110 Luck to use, it was more worth it to use the starting wand and invest all those points into INT instead, you would deal more damage
now they made it so 2 INT = 1 Magic Attack, so that no longer applies and Luckless magicians are dead
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>>733660938
Originally 1 point of magic attack = 1 point of Int. This meant there was no point in adding luck to equip better weapons, because the total magic attack you gain from equipping better weapons and gear wasn't worth it. This was true even before they kept adding higher and higher level weapons that didn't require secondary stats.

F/P poison used to deal a % of the enemy's health per tick. Now it deals a value based on your magic attack. Presumably they will allow DoT to work on bosses now. However, this will make a lot of people understandably upset when 3rd job rolls around and they can't poison mist maps to death the way they used to.
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>>733659891
After maxing bow mastery not power knockback. Power knockback still is useless if you max bow mastery you get no minimum range. It might have niche uses though even still
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>>733661063
Threaten is actually useful now so there is that, it now slows down enemies and decreases their attack and defense by 20%
If it works on bosses then it's gonna be broken
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>Rage buffed
>Threaten buffed
>Hyper Body nerfed
lmao
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>>733661063
I'm hoping they release info about 3rd job, because White Knight needs a lot of help that I'm not convinced Nexon will give it. Meanwhile Spearman:
>gets 20 speed on Polearm Mastery
>35% stance baked into Iron Will, now a self buff
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>>733662095
Holy shit, they buffed spearmen too? Someone was really invested into not having everyone running around in straw hats and robes.
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>>733662749
they also lowered the DEX requirement for all Thief gear
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>>733661136
>>733661216
well shit, that's nice actually. makes gear progression more interesting imo
the dot damage change i'm not so sure about, but we'll have to see i guess
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>>733662095
>I'm hoping they release info about 3rd job
I wouldn't be surprised if we only got 3rd job next year if they release Classic World this year
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>>733664312
best way to do it desu
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>>733642740
hoping nexon KILL band of thieves, that skill is so goddamn ugly
it's probably the people who didn't even know about the skill and won't play chief bandits going "noooooo you can't delete that skills, it's soul or something"
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>>733659505
yeah 20+ years later and they changed literally everything and literally ALL the changes look FUCKING RETARDED
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if you play this you're legit fucked in the head with an applesauce brain you're straight up retard cattle
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>>733642740
Can we just put millennials out of their misery already? They are practically begging to get shot like a dog in the backstreet.
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>>733665030
>>733665079
uh oh melty
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>>733665030
>you're legit fucked in the head
but I am
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In case anyone wants to see all the changes, this dude played all the classes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WraEkoFXrHs
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>>733642740
This will never work like Vanilla GMS simply because the 2005 internet is gone.
Only first world nations had internet in 2005, and even within said nations, you needed to be middle class to even have a computer + internet subscription + knowledge to use a computer, peasants and third worlders were nowhere to be seen back then.
We had no smartphones or computer powerful enough to just alt tab and go watch 4K youtube bullshit during the boat travels, we had no choice but to socialize with people on the damn ship.
Vanilla GMS was thunder in a bottle and can't be recreated. Also it's been 20 years, many players that made the life of the game are possibly dead by now.
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Explain how this new Maplestory won't just devolve back into the modern Maplestory? The same problems in game design, the same solutions.
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>>733668585
I don't care. I'll play for a few weeks to draw out some fossilized dopamine and then quit like 80% of the playerbase. The maggots can have it after that.
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>>733668930
all I'll feel is hate because everything is all different and retarded
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>>733668930
I didn't want to ruin my memories of the game so I'm just going to listen to the ost instead.
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>>733668585
Inkwell said so
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>>733643785
Sounds great
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>Arrow Bomb only hits 4 enemies now
>Slash Blast and Thunderbolt still hit 6
Why?
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>call it classic
>change everything because players hate classic
>players hate "classic"
mapesters are retarded?
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>>733671756
That is the only thing saving warriors from being absolute trashcan tier, and archers don't have bow whacking anymore.
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>>733658996
Niggers at nexon ignoring the game after it launches is a blessing.
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i just hope HP washing isnt a hard requirement again
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>>733672938
Nemi mentioned HP washing during MapleCon as an issue with old MapleStory, it's 100% getting removed
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>>733672305
According to Inkwell it’s supposed to be a MapleStory from a different timeline, not the same game
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>>733668356
Poor anon, unaware on how it was back when, probably never seen a HUEHUE in real life.
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I hope they nerf assassins even more, a single class shouldn't be this strong
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>>733677332
They're already gutted as fuck to the point where it's going to be the polar opposite of old Maple and we'll be seeing more Bandits than Assassins running around. How much more do they need to suffer?
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ΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑΑ i was promised no changes!!!!!!!!
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>>733679330
>i was promised no changes!!!!!!!!
Everyone, literally everyone, wanted HP Washing to be cut so no one here can unironically that they wanted no changes.
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>>733677332
a lot of the reasons for assassin being as broken at it was had nothing to do with the class itself, they just happened to benefit way more from power creep than other classes
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>>733679038
good, bandits deserve some love
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>Waste millions of mesos scrolling and bricking/booming gear
>Waste millions of mesos starforcing and booming gear
What's the difference?
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>>733681767
Lower ceiling, for one thing. White, Chaos, and 30% scrolls were a mistake, never mind everything that came after.
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does anyone have the summary of all the changes not related to skills so far?
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>>733681767
scrolls are easier to understand and they're literally the only upgrade items in the whole game
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>>733642740
>Retail maplestory
>People find out nexon was skewing % rates of cubes
>Maplestory idle RPG
>People find out nexon was skewing % rates of cubes
This shit is so hilarious. I don't have the time or patience to play proper maplestory so I got into the idle one and they did the same exact thing there too. They issued a full refund to all players who spent money on request but they would also ban your account, which I heard was done so they couldn't be sued
The official discord was a goldmine during that time
What are they odds they'll do it AGAIN in classic
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>>733668585
i assume it'll be like duel links, where it'll be good for several years and that's enough. enjoy the ride and play with /v/ or randos
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>>733684948
I don't know if it means anything but it's not the Korean Nexon who's making Classic World, only American Nexon is working on it
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>>733667367
>Warrior is basically the same
I was considering rolling another Spearman for old time's sake, but maybe I'll try an I/L Wizard or Page instead.
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>>733686915
That actually does matter because while Nexon is greedy, Koreans actually LIKE and advocate for the pay to win bullshit.
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>>733679038
>Make sin's weapon power more in line with the other classes' so they don't scale so stupidly hard with gear upgrades
>But then also nerf Lucky 7 to the point that it's worse than even Drain
It's weird because the first change already brings them down to everyone else's level. I don't get why they doubled up on the nerfs.
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>>733668585
it will, but I have from launch till it does to play again.
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>>733688417
>Koreans actually LIKE and advocate for the pay to win bullshit.
Final Fantasy 14 mobile in china is currently in the process of dying because it's too fair, the actual devs have come out and said that the players were asking for p2w
Asians are fucked in the head
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Need to wait for the nostalgia tourists to get filtered so we can get something like an auction house. You retards are delusional if you think anyone is browsing FM shops.
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>>733642740
you were probably making these threads 5 years ago or whenever Big Bang was released too. Classic won't do shit. It will still be grindy and RNG as fuck and you'll get jewed again and again and again and again
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>>733689942
I was watching retards argue about this not even one hour ago.
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>closed online test will only last 2 weeks
why?
just make it a month
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>>733690102
I was one of those retards, I'm just trying to continue the conversation here.
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>>733689942
Shops might still be used just for the convenience, but I can guarantee you no one is gonna be spamming "B>10ATK WG@@@@@@ " at the entrance anymore when they can just use discord.
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>>733672938
no idea how people are still asking about this HP WASHING IS REMOVED
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>>733689942
>nobody could buy anything before amazon existed
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I was going to create a Hunter but after seeing all the changes I'm considering creating a F/P
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>>733690612
The better comparison would be who wouldn't order from Amazon now that it exists.
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>>733643785
Nerfed assassins is more of enough reason to play.
Bandits have always been the best class.
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>>733668356
Philippines wasn't and isn't a first world nation lol
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Leeching is dead by the way, if you stay still for 10 seconds you don't get any party EXP
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>>733690650
Bold of you to assume they're done balancing
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>>733690650
Everything is up in the air until 3rd job. Warriors don't even become real classes until then.
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>>733688793
>>But then also nerf Lucky 7 to the point that it's worse than even Drain
I thought you were joking but I was watching some gameplays and Drain was killing the Golems in 2 hits while Lucky Seven took 3 hits
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hopefully inkwell gives us an idea of what everything will look like at 3rd job
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Someone at Nexon must really hate assassins and really love bandits
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>>733692232
>assassin players when they're not top dog for five seconds
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>>733691536
>now assassins do good damage at range while healing for free
wow, so nerfed
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>>733692232
>assassin players when bandits become an actual class and not stat a steaming heap of poop
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>>733691792
I doubt we're getting any news on 3rd job this year
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>>733693304
The game is launching around anniversary time if I had to guess, we're not sitting around with only 2nd job for too long.
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>>733690813
I knew that all these years wiggling my mouse at my WFH job would come in handy.
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page chads ww@
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>>733693792
>wiggling my mouse
Time to ascend and get a foot pedal
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>>733690260
I'll setup a shop, but I'll just use whatever website people use for listings. FM will be goycattle territory.
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In retrospect balance-wise maplestory was already fucked by 3rd job with holy symbol and dragon roar existing. Huge AoEs with multi-target are very anti-classic maple in my opinion, as it adds a huge unbalance to farming economy, etc. Well, that could've been fixed if Nexon game designers were had thought about enemies who have bigger healthpools and better rewards (so single target no cleave classes can go head to head against AoE multi-target classes) but overall the balance is fucked so I'm glad classic Maple is starting from 2nd job but I don't have much hopes they'll keep the balance good down the line as they start delving into 3rd and 4th job.
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>>733644513
boo hoo nigger
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>>733649182
is it really p2w if you lose it when you die?
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>>733655257
is it run by chinks?
is the shop still nexon p2w tier?
is it dead?
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>>733648873
I doubt there will be 2x cards
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>>733691037
>Everything is up in the air until 3rd job
Feels weird having to choose without knowing what they're doing with 3rd jobs yet. Even as a kid, 3rd job was already a thing by the time I started playing old Maple (started the same week Ludibrium was released on Global)
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>>733698619
>Feels weird having to choose without knowing what they're doing with 3rd jobs yet.
It feels really weird considering 3rd job is when classes become iconic. They should give us a rundown on what they want to do with each job.
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>>733693367
If we're getting original 1x exp rates then we might, lmao
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Bowman supremacy.
AB is my wife even though I never got to play any version of Maplestory with her in it.
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>>733699781
2nd job is just a boring time. I believe it would be a mistake to even launch without it, maybe a month after release would be fine. I can play a 3rd job server forever if need be.
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>>733700127
I feel like the journey to 3rd job is so good though.
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>>733642740
I guess I'm excited. It's not gonna be the same. I don't miss old maple as much as I miss the old internet. It's certainly preferable to a private server, maple lands or modern ms though. I hate everything about modern maple.
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>>733660543
>>733660756
>>733660901
>>733660913
pizardsisters...
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>>733688417
inkwell's team has nothing to do with it. plus maple idle was outsourced to some secondary chink mobile game developer, any weird cube fuckery is their fault i'm pretty sure. it's still suspect since nexon has been caught red handed on this before, but again, inkwell's career at nexon is basically riding on classic working out since this is his way of keeping maplestory relevant in the west. he's never had anything to do with the weird fucked up cube rates.
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>>733699846
Arrow Bomb?
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>>733693881
Weren't Pages the most useless warriors?
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>>733707793
A lot of people are banking on Nexon making them good, but that hinges on 3rd job. 2nd job warriors are all functionally the same.
It also helps that they changed the swing/stab multipliers so that 2h Axes/BW aren't flaming dogshit. The old multiplier was something like 4.8/3.5 while swords were 4.6/4.6 and always faster.
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>>733642740
>What are your hopes for Classic World?
They already ruined a lot of them such as unchanged classes and maps.
I bet modern cosmetics have already been confirmed as well.
I've really soured on this spin of "classic" even if it is sort of a classic+ it's not what I wanted.

At this point I just want a linux release so I can maybe play it on my Deck before bed or something. I'm not going to invest given the changes shown.

I miss yeou
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>>733709157
I forgot to mention claws, bows, and xbows not having melee attacks up close is gay and anyone who argues for this change is double gay.
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Get ready for the discord integration!
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>>733706442
Angelic Buster, the "koreans have small penises" girl. She's right btw, I've never been with a kboy larger than 5cm
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>>733709212
Yeah I'm still hoping they roll that shit back before release.
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>>733709212
>claws
wrong, assassins still punch at close range
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>>733709212
I actually agree with that part. Removing minimum range on archers wasn't necessary, they already have multiple tools to deal with that.
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i will probably download it to see how awful the ping is playing from europe.
f/p and page seem cool and balanced.
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>>733709694
>multiple tools
>Power Knockback
>Arrow Rain/Eruption
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>>733711335
>Puppet
>Blizzard on xbow
>Dragon's Breath
Yes, multiple tools. I guess Mortal Blow technically counts too.
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>>733642740
I've never played MapleStory, but I used to play LaTale. Will I like this?
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>>733714056
do you love grinding?
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>>733714287
Of couse. I played tons of gook mmos back in the 2000s.
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>>733714390
Then you'll love MapleStory, the only thing you can do in the game is grind then get stronger so you can grind more
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>>733699781
From what I've read about Classic World so far, it seems like enemies are tweaked to give around 15-20% more exp than they originally did. The big change is that being a party gives you huge exp bonuses now so the best way to grind will be mobbing with a full group.
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>>733715398
Also I mean 1.15x-1.2x, not that you'll be getting 1/5th of a level from one monster. Forgot Maplers use % as a way to talk about our entire exp bar too.
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Seems like Claws' DEX requirements have been halved across the board, Meba used to require 50 DEX now it only requires 25, Dark Slain used to require 90 DEX, now it only requires 50
They really don't wanna see people in sauna robes, bamboo hats and maple weapons
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>>733658996
>>733645937
I haven't played MS since like 2005.
I dont want to play on some trannys powertrip private server
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>>733715398
>mobbing with a full group
but I have social anxiety...
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>>733701823
I really just don't want to play 2nd job when I'm 75+.
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>>733719730
It's old MapleStory, it's gonna take you months to get to 70
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Have they announced the date yet?
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>>733720686
Nope. Next closed beta is in April.
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>>733720686
The first half of 2026 seems focused on having multiple closed betas. So maybe we'll see an open beta in late Summer or Fall.
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>>733720562
Eh, it just took longer when I was younger because I was a dumb kid. WFHGod+optimized stats+party play xp will get us there a lot quicker.
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>>733657979
>the usernames
Did the event have different fixed number seatings for males and females? Or is it just an alphabetical coincidence.
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>>733720686
Closed online test will be in April and only for 5000 people, that's all we know
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>>733721318
As opposed to closed offline test on an MMO?
I'm just messing with you.
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I hope they don't nuke Holy Symbol. I just want to be a support slut Priest.
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>>733724174
It’s all but guaranteed if the current party bonus exp stays in place, and the nerfs they've done so far (lmao Hyper Body) make it pretty clear they're hammering down anything that stands out too much.
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>>733724174
partyplay buffs that let you be idle are 100% getting nuked and nerfed, they're probably going to do what they did on nu-maple and make it so you have to be basically next to the priest for it to be worthwhile
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>>733724174
I just don't want people making priest mules in a second account
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>>733724174
There is simply no way that HS stays the same with party play changes. Though, I would expect it to be changed into a more useful buff. Since crit damage seems to be the way things will go, a crit rate buff or crit damage buff would be huge.
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bump for @@@@@@@ spam
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>>733688417
I really fucking hate koreans for this shit
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>>733688417
i hope NA doesnt get "inspiration" from them
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>>733659891
>Mobbing skills for both 2nd job archers went down from 6 to 4 targets
Did they change how the mobbing skills function outside of that? Because if there's no other alterations then Iron Arrow is just better since Arrow Bomb can never out damage Iron Arrow. AB would slightly out damage IA on 5 enemies and do more damage on 6. Being locked to 4 mobs means IA is outright better unless they've retooled the skills beyond that.
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>>733688417
>whole reason aion 2 even being a thing is because it's not p2w
>mabinogi mobile lost steam as soon as the game became p2w
how do you explain these then?
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>>733679038
>How much more do they need to suffer?
Significantly more.
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>>733733141
RIP
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>>733733141
F
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>>733674768
it's a good idea to be fair, they probably have enough data from seeing how private servers and mapleworlds shit goes if they're smart enough to do that, which would show that classic maple doesn't hold up long term so they have to add real new content which is where pservers fall short.
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>>733733141
S
buncha fags
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network test (AKA "closed beta") should be sometime in april or may, the open tests will be in the fall, then it should be launching some time late this year, probably slightly before the winter patch for GMS so they don't cannibalize.

I think it' sgonna be botted to fuck and back, and boring because everything is already solved, after people hit level 120 (and then 200) most people will quit cause there's nothing to chase. The whole reason it doesn't work is because the game just isn't really that enjoyable unless they're dripping content back in and starting us at 2nd only like all the classic worlds do.
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>>733733956
why are they waiting so long tho
cbt should already be out
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>>733733956
my friend is retarded and thinks it's gonna be out soon because of the closed beta but meanwhile i'm telling him it's not gonna show up until it's literally the end of the year
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>>733694893
Most info's on discord, so I dunno. The previous private servers were chink-run and heavily P2W apparently. Lith is a yuro-based server and still in active development. From what I gathered, you can playtest it now if you want. I'm planning on checking it out on the weekend because I did really like MS2. The weekly raid system was asscheeks, but the cyclic minigames, side activities like fishing and music, and house building were the main draw for me.
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>>733734262
>>733734473
the test they had at maplecon was a pretty big mess, functionally it was okay but the spritesheets for the new mobs weren't done, 90% of the maps weren't adjusted to fit the 1080p screen size so there were lots of black bars and shit, graphical artefacting, etc. the new area had placeholder text that was still in place as of like 10 days ago at the in-person tests, and they're still making tons of balance changes.
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ANNIVERSARY RELEASE BELIEVERS, KEEP BELIEVING!
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>>733734642
same thats the main reason i liked it. and custom nx stuff iirc like put anime shit on your shirts n mounts. and cute chibis
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>>733733141
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>>733643785
Great. It's so infuriating that all those other private servers out there keep hp washing and STILL tie it to NX cash.
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>>733735650
wonder if we'll still need pets to pick up everything
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>>733734642
>check it
>bot command for online users
>1
yea....i dont see it going up really
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>>733688417
These Korean faggots should lay off the p2w and do something about their declining birth rate
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>>733689942
Basilmarket or bust
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>>733736287
does anyone even use it nowadays?
i recently checked it and he changed it to appeal to mobilefags
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>>733736380
NTA, but it was recently brought back to life. I believe quite a few projects are happening to make an online trading post for mushroom game classic.
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>>733733141
Good.
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>>733642740
So what's the catch? Time limited cosmetics? Pay to roll or protect your gear stats? They need to be really player friendly in an era when a game like Warframe lets you collect everything for free and tops playercounts. They need to consider the impact of 'optional' pay2win that gives addicts a way to escape the matrix in a month while everybody else has to deal with an inflated hacker infested economy. I think a failure to keep everybody on the same pace and add some fun encounters will immediately turn people away again.
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Fuck, now that I'm adult with money I'm afraid I might end up actually spending money on Classic World
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>What are your hopes for Classic World?
I hope it fucking comes out this year, holy FUCK what's taking so long? My life is miserable right now and I need escapism. GOD I hate koreans
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>>733737867
see >>733734674

it seems dev is glacial
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>can't play the beta without an already active account

Fuck off, I hate these beta rules. Much rather have the random gamba invites
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Jumping and pressing L7 was most of the dopamine I got playing Sin though..
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I hope they rework Theme Dungeons for Classic in the future, Mushroom Kingdom and Kerning Square were really fun
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Whats a private server to play on for someone who only played classic maple story in 2004, 2 hours a day after school and only made it to a level 44 assassin after a year?
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>>733668585
Because they'd be redundant products which is objectively stupid even from a purely business/financial perspective.
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>>733738417
Artale in MapleWorlds is alright
Better than Royals and Legends imo
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>>733738291
I hope that shit was a bug, if it’s still like that in the next beta then assassin might actually be dead.
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>>733722214
You joke but they've unironically run two offline tests for some reason
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>>733738395
>Mushroom Kingdom and Kerning Square
not remotely classic and really gay faggot retard areas kys
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>>733738092
because of your post I decided to download the game again to see if my old account was still there and holy fuck, what do you mean 50gb????? it's a fucking 2D MMO, why 50gb??
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>>733733956
>>733734674
how is it simultaneously "already solved" so it'll be boring, but also the in-person demo was borderline unfinished and they're still making tons of balance changes
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>>733738417
doesn't exist, they always update it with faggot shit and change a bunch of shit to make it for the most retarded people alive which is what classic world is also doing.
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i know it's classic, but i'm sad i can't play Phantom
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>>733738810
Phantom as a concept was so fun and silly, especially hunting down the class you need to swipe from.
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>>733738721
These niggers deleted mine, provided 0 customer service to my tickets, yet the login still identifies there's an account tied to the email.
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>>733738495
>2factor for a mapleworld server
nah
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>>733738395
those 2 places were ass when they were first introduced
>collect drops
>collect x2 of same drops
>ok now collect x5 of em and kill 200 retards
im glad they made it better and i hope if they ever bring it back that they give us the not so grindy one
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>>733738417
i started on fantasia, been fun so far
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>>733642740
>excited for a shitty minimalmod for a 20 year old mmo that wasn't even good to begin with
You guys are absolutely hopeless. Aren't you waiting for like a year for this? Even ragnarok had a billion ultra overhaul mods with an insane more work put into it. What's going on with you guys?
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>>733739568
>the not so grindy one
Are you aware of what game you're being nostalgic about?
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No and just go to the maple general

>you're not 13 anymore
>Nexon is morally bankrupt and 100% WILL fuck it up
>Hackers and bots won't get banned and will fuck up the games economy
>The skill balances so far are trash
>Nobody has time for this shit
>Hosting a sandbox private server with friends is better
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>>733738583
Vertical hit detection is absolutely fucked right now, it's affecting everyone. It's just most noticeable on sins since their constant jumping consistently puts them above the point where it starts getting finicky.
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>>733740272
>>The skill balances so far are trash
F/P looks great though? Unless you're sad about no more poison training but poison training was expensive as hell so no one was gonna do it any time soon in Classic World
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>>733738727
Because progression is the same as it always has been, because to change that requires massive, sweeping changes that would make the game not classic. You still spend 100% of your time after 3rd (which was the cap in the tests) sitting at zombies, with a cleric spamming arrows which are now very strong, to make up for the fact genesis isn't spammable.
You think they're going to make changes to zak or ht or pb? lmao, the changes are to the actual leveling experience, to make it slightly more tolerable, that's what they've learned from pservers and mapleworlds (Which has essentially turned into OSMS forks and nothing else).
Classic is literally just them taking the best ideas and trying to bring the revenue streams back inhouse instead of having to pay out to outside devs.
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>>733690275
because somehow puristfags actually defend keeping it and nexon is retarded
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>>733709212
This, and the worst part is retards applaud this shit change, calling it "QoL." It definitely wasn't a deliberate decision to balance ranged classes and reward proper positioning or anything, it's outdated design I need muh QoL!!
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If they add dailies to Classic World I'm dropping it on the same day, fucking cancer mechanic
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>>733738395
What I'd really like to see is the original Taipei 101 and other regional content GMS never got, but I doubt it'll happen.
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>>733740778
I see a lot of retarded takes from purists, but none actually defending HP washing. If they do, they usually expose their opinions as worthless in the same sentence.
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>>733740778
not a single person is defending HP washing you stupid faggot. Also, no one who was there will complain about bow whacking being removed. Retards on both sides.
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>>733689863
>>733731589
>>733736184
I always found it funny how throne and liberty failed in the west and in the east for entirely different reasons. It failed in the west cause it was a shit p2w mmo, it failed in the east because it was a shit mmo that wasn't p2w enough. Gooks are obsessed with status and if they can't have it in real life then they can have it in a video game, every gook wants to be the one whale that 1v80s your entire guild. We literally have nothing in common with them as a demographic.
>>733731589
>whole reason aion 2 even being a thing is because it's not p2w
That's not the reason, also it's p2w.
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>>733743604
As a former Ranger main I agree, bow whacking was just really annoying and limited bowman grinding spots
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>>733743604
My only complaint is that if bow whacking is removed then Power Knockback should probably just be replaced with something else. There's maybe a case for it with Bow, to get enemies closer together for Arrow Bomb, but with Xbow's Iron Arrow, moving the enemies around accomplishes literally nothing.
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>>733643015
>>733643015
>without the community to prop it up.
this is exactly why wow classic failed to capture my interest beyond vanilla. the community is full of fucking shitters. same as ow2, same as siege. none of these games are remotely decent anymore because the people playing them are all fucking faggots.
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>>733744038
I agree mostly, though I can see some use when gathering so you're hitting all mobs instead of just two or three. I would just make PKB(for the option) max at a low level and add something cooler if I was in control.
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>>733684948
this looks like the laziest ragebaiting imaginable
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>>733642740
To not be level 100 2 hours in. Levels feel pointless
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>>733745552
if this is actually like classic you'll be lucky if you can get to level 15 in 2 hours
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>>733746838
I remember when I played it as a kid, anything past level 30 took a week for a level. I played it again in 2014, got to level 80 in 2 months. Quick, but the levels still feel like I was making that progress. I tried it again a few months ago and you gain like 10 levels just for doing a basic story quest. All the sidequests are pretty much gone
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>>733739778
I think Fantasia is a little too classic. I really want to change the resolution but its either tiny window mode or full screen with black bars
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>>733743734
Didn't I hear about Koreans being jealous of less P2W stuff in the Global version of Maplestory? Maybe the whales over there demand the P2W
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>>733747515
its always whale
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How can whales be monetized without making the game p2w?
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>>733748096
With everything else being locked behind gach and the pet subscription. SSB, royal hair and eyes, etc.
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Where do you guys draw the line when it comes to P2W? What would make you not play?
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>>733748221
cubes
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>>733747515
They weren't jealous, they were pissed about Reboot because they believe the game should be p2w in every version.
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>>733748446
gooks are good lil paypiggies
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>>733741743
>Zipangu
>Masteria
Definitely coming back
>SEA
Probably nerfed outside Scarlion, especially with how degen Ghost Ship felt to Nexon
>Thailand
>Taiwan
lmao
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>>733748601
We have almost nothing in common with them. In gookland, if you don't whale in an MMO you're considered poor even if you're not actually poor, so being a whale in korea gives you +10000 social points or whatever.
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Will they add NLC? It destroyed the economy with the potions so I hope not.
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>no Pirates
I wanted to play Buccaneer... I'll play Ice/Lightning then.
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>>733642740
The art style always reminded me of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXIzyquw-kc
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>>733749232
But I love the haunted mansion...
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>>733645937
>The only true fond memory I have is monster carnival.
not classic
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>>733668585
all they have to do is keep complex map platforms, enemies that take 5 seconds to kill while also 2-shotting you, and jump quests, and it will be significantly different from current maplestory's design philosophy.
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>>733689942
>browsing FM shops
FM was a mistake, bring back channel 1 perion southeast
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>>733715985
sauna robes are inevitable, its not about class equip stats its about thief class having access to overall scrolls.
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>>733749849
keep crying, nigga
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>>733749284
Buccaneer is even worse than Page, bro...
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>>733752398
wat how?
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>>733752541
tf you mean how?
from worst to not worst:
>bucc
>shad
>f/p, mm
>paladin
at least this is the general consensus on korean websites
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>>733752541
low damage and no range, at least warriors have some range with their weapons
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>>733748221
Potential
Star Force
Scroll Protection/Sucess Rate scrolls sold directly in the cash shop
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>>733736164
It's the only private server available, so I assume it'll get more traffic as the server gets more development. It's basically still just an early alpha.
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>>733738395
the original kerning square is the only one i actually want back. it's not classic at all but it unironically feels like a classic area in its simplicity and presentation, like you even had to take the subway to get there. it was a really cute area.
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>>733754250
I just like the concept of theme dungeons, like having a long questline with a plot
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>>733740437
Oh shit, haven't seen anyone else point this out. Hope they fix it.
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>>733754097
hopefully. i want to be a cute chibi again
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>>733660938
f/p dot damage is up in the air now that it scales and crits. We only know what poison breath damage(dogshit lol) looks like with clean gear. I have high hopes for mist and party play, but that could just be cope.
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>>733757646
from the footage it seems like they want F/P to use both Fire Arrow and Poison Breath to apply both burn and poison on the same mob
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>>733758378
Yeah, optimally they probably want you to poison first and then finish it with fire arrow. With poison damage being as low as it is(again with clean armor and poison breathe is dogshit in every version of this game) most people, myself included, will probably just spam fire arrow.
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>>733758647
are they doing something similar with i/l?
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>>733754250
imho i think kerning square is one of the best examples of how the map design of maple started getting really boring and lifeless and was missing all the little things that gave the older maps depth even if it was just useless depth.
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>>733758724
I haven't looked much into i/l, I heard they were putting a stun on thunder bolt.. It'll probably be very afk when we're all sitting on one platform killing mobs for party play exp.
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>>733758724
They nerfed Thunderbolt's attack from 60 to 50 but gave it a 20% chance to stun, still hits 6 enemis though
Cold Beam was buffed from 100 attack to 125 attack and the effect went from lasting 2 seconds to 3 seconds, HOWEVER instead of completely freezing the target, it now only slows down the target, so I'd say it's a nerf overall
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>>733643015
fpbp
What made this game good were the players. KYS all nexon shills
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What I'm really concerned is that now that Holy Arrow is actually good how the fuck are supposed to invest your skill points as a Cleric?
In OSMS Holy Arrow would always be at level 11 by the end because it was useless anyway but what about now? There aren't enough skill points to max everything
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>>733759871
Have fun with your Level 1 Tele forever, Clericfags ;)
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>>733759871
Holy Arrow probably still gets completely replaced by Shining Ray in 3rd job. If you don't mind suffering all throughout 2nd job you could probably still skip it.
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>>733759871
redo lvl of max skills like current maple i guess
i think some passives only have a max of 5 sp today.
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>>733758724
They basically made them worse, thunderbolt's stun is going to make it hard to drag mobs and it does less damage. Still gonna roll one though.
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>>733759871
You drop MP eater because it's shit now. No more meso-free training for Clerics.
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Hot take: spearmen were just as nigger tier as NL
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>>733760507
They were popular but they were never actually that OP.
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>>733760563
Not talking about OP ness, just how their attitudes were always gods gift to the server. How dare they not have a personal cleric shoved up their urethra at all times
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>>733642740
That guys always looked so cool when I was a kid. Now he just looks homeless.
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>>733759871
>There aren't enough skill points to max everything
That's a good thing.
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>>733761038
You met like 5 dks like that, calm down.
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>>733759871
>There aren't enough skill points to max everything
Like >>733761392 said, that's a good thing. There might actually be more than one singular build for some of the classes.
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>>733761038
To be fair, the clerics wanted that too since Hyper Body helped facilitate cheaper training for them.
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With all these changes this shit isn't even gonna feel like OSMS. I can't even pretend this is what maplestory would end up as if big bang never happened.
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They should have kept the classes the same, then change them once I quit
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>>733762401
I still meet them. PS DKs huff their own farts just as much as they did 20 years ago.
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>>733763298
they should, they're better than you
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>>733763348
at dying to a gentle breeze and whining about all their skills killing them maybe
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>>733763534
sometimes greatness takes a bit of risk, not like you would understand.
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>>733760507
Let me guess, Page or Hunter player?
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>>733764449
Bishop. Hunters get a free ride as soon as they hit 130. A rock could play hunter or paly
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Why is this game taking so long for something that was already made? I thought korean work ethic made them kill themselves to death for not completing work on time.
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>>733764690
>korean
Because it's being made by Nexon America, and considering how almost every single Global Maplestory update is a complete shitfest of breaking shit and extended maintenances that should be expected.
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>>733763821
Real chads rizzed up the azn cuties they PQ'd with.
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>>733764690
they're literally remaking every asset from scratch so everything is in higher resolution and in line with the standards of today. it's not a remaster by any means, it's just like if they made the exact same game today.
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>>733765453
>he didn't meet up with cute, preppy white girls in his guild that lived an hour away
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>>733642740
>playing official servers
>surely ip holders wont devolve it into soulless cashgrab once again
RO and Gravity haven't taught you enough? Fucking retards.
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>>733765698
Nexon America has been working on maplestory classic world for almost 2 years now.
You know what also took 2 years? Wizet making the entirety of Maplestory from scratch.
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>>733765751
I introduced a cute preppy white girl to the game. We lost touch eventually.
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>>733764690
If all this time is spent redoing the code so it's not fucking spaghetti, I'm fine with it.
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>>733766292
>trusting nexon america to be able to code anything
yikes
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>>733763821
>ywn experience genuine noob culture ever again
It will never be the same.
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>>733765751
I got my first gf from basilmarket and we dated for like 5 years then she went to college and we never spoke ever again



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