Why would you join an ancient evil and betray your friends, mentor and over a hundred quadrillion lives across the galaxy to save your wife who is just one person?
I would end all life for Natalie Portman.
His wife is just an excuse; he is dissatisfied with the political system of good
because he loved her and he genuinely thought that Padme could make the galaxy a better place through her ideas, so any sacrifice was worth it even though he had deep regret for the things that he was doing
>>733645215To be fair he fully intended on betraying Palpatine after getting what he wanted
>>733645215Dunno about that, but I would betray for humanity for space elf princess pussy. Or equivalent.
I would do it to get a qt obedient apprentice like that girl in KOTOR2
Yes
>why would someone who never fully accepted the teachings of his peers regarding personal attachments become twisted and selfish when those people he is attached to are put under threat even his immense powers can't stopBecause after years of being told he was special but refusing to treat him as special the inevitable happened and his willful personality won out over the stagnant dogma of the Jedi
I would never do anything for a woman.
>>733645605Not even tight teen togruta pussy?
>>733645536For me is the white one in the i "don't like sand" scene
>>733645215>https://youtu.be/y1hCMKav3LE?t=34Dindu was the tipping point>>>/wsg/6098447
>>733645747Yeah maybe but once she's 18 I'd drop her like a piece of shit. I HATE women.
>>733645747Post copypasta>>73364594018 is pretty young
>>733645215Because Lucas doesn't know how to write a story of a man or government becoming evil over time. Everyone is blind and stupid throughout the entire trilogy. Rather than just having Anakin speak about how a dictatorship would be better, have multiple people say this to show this shift in political views within the republic because of the civil war. Instead it's people unironically saying "Palpatine will give up his emergency power when the war is over. I'm sure of it." when that's the type of stuff cronies of Palpatine would be saying to blow smoke up people's asses. No different than the people who are cronies for Trump saying "lol no he's not doing that" when he literally is.
>>733646104We don't talk about good friends that way.
>>733645921I'm glad we got that 0.5 second clip of the lightsaber falling or else I would have no idea what happened to it.
>>733646104Not young enough for this Sith Lord.
>>733646145Didn't understand Söy Wars.>>733646210Doesn't understand Cinema.
>>733646210yeah yeah I saw the plinket reviews in 2010 too you're not special
Man this really was the golden era of star wars games and media
>>733646286>>733646295Aw is the little Zoomie feeling bad because he doesn't like hearing how the prequels he grew up with are hot garbage?
>>733646331The only stuff Lucas doesn't touch is the only stuff that comes off great.
>>733646350Zoomers didn't grow up on the prequels, millenials did. I was like, 6 when phantom menace came out. Besides, I never said they were good movies, while PM is a fun kinda dumb I think AOTC is downright trash and ROTS is thoroughly mediocre. I said you regurgitating something you heard from a fat old guy from wisconsin 15 years ago doesn't make you insightful.
>>733646145>Rather than just having Anakin speak about how a dictatorship would be better,He did, in Attack of the Clones, which is so awful you don't remember it.
>>733646350>>733646524Zoomers are the ones who call them garbage and made a whole meme genre out of them. The only one I like is Revenge of the Sith, and the performances are still laughable in it.> Zoomers didn't grow up on the prequelsDo retards like you think time stops for any media you see, and it doesn't proliferate once you're done with it?
>>733646615Anon's point is that the whole scene where Anakin just says people should be forced to do the right thing is garbage and it should've been a more natural stance voiced by multiple people over time to reflect the change in the Republic's politics
>>733646524Nothing he said was wrong which is why people keep bringing it up. Lucas has always struggled as a director, writer, editor, etc. and always had to rely on others to make it work.>>733646615That's what I was referring too. He's only one in the prequel you hear openly support a dictatorship when it should have been something multiple people should have been saying to show that shift in political ideology.>>733646710What? No. Zoomers were still kids when the prequels were on the go. It was Gen X and Millennials mocking them from day one.
>>733645215Anakin is scarred by his mother's murder and doesn't want to lose his wife like that.
Yes the love of your life should be more important than anyone in the world
>>733646731>Anakin just says people should be forced to do the right thing is garbageHe didn't even say that. He said there needs to be a single voice to cut through the political discourse and take action. Anakin sees democracy as inefficient because people spend more time spouting rhetoric in debate than actually doing something which is why the Republic had become stagnant for so long. My problem is you weren't hearing that same mentality from others in the Republic. Have rallies showing people support Palpatine as a life time leader or something.
>>733645215Frankly, I would question your morals as a man if you wouldn’t bring down a government for the sake of your pregnant wife.
>>733645215because effective altruism is fake and gay
>>733645536>Padme wore this fetish outfit intending to break up with AnakinWhat did she mean by this?
>>733645605Bastila best girl
>>733645605isnt malak taller than revan?
>>733647295"I own you and you know it"
>>733645215Why would I care about a bunch of people I don't know over caring about my codependent emotional support sex senator and the one person who's ever shown me understanding or affection other than my dead mother?I swear it's like you people don't even try to understand how a character thinks before asking these dumbass questions.
>>733645921What the fuck is this pretentious dogshit?It was a fight to the death and all 3 people involved knew that. The moment Anakin hacks Windu is when he chooses Palpatine over Windu because muh Padme.Stupid retards.
>>733652974That's Lucas explaining that Anakin was enough of a dipshit to think that Palpatine wouldn't have killed a disarmed Windu, that for a brief, shining moment he really was stupid enough to think he could both save Palpatine (and save Padme) while also getting Windu to begrudgingly agree to imprison the Sith.
Lets say Anakin succeeded completely without Padme knowing until after the JO was destroyed, including Obi-Wan. Hows he gonna explain to his wife he betrayed them all willingly and killed kids? How does a soon-to-be FATHER whos about to have KIDS tell his morally pure wife that he killed kids to save her?
>>733645894>don't like sand
>>733654510are you forgetting that she was in a relationship with a warrior general who crusaded across the literal galaxy for nearly a decade? War is hell, a few eggs need to be cracked to make an omelet, etc. She would have left long ago if she had any issue with violence and the use of force to ensure political will
>>733654510https://youtu.be/pfevBIsVG1o?si=ZXVhWEDL4tf9rSHB
>>733654510She really gave a shit when he butchered an entire tribe of sentients and started ranting about how he's so powerful he's going to stop people from dying. Really felt unsafe around this walking murder machine one bad day from flying off the handle and killing everything in his path.Wait, no, she told him "to be angry is to be human" and accepted his murderous impulses as part of who he is.
>>733654793Heh, women.
>>733654793i thought you guys told me the prequel had bad writing, that sounds BASED
>>733647295George being redpilled about women. She wants the appearance of doing the right thing-telling him they can’t be together. All the while she sets up all the circumstances for him to be desperately in heat for her pushing for their relationship himself-romantic lighting, night time rendezvous, hot ass outfit, etc. It becomes Anakin’s doing through force of will, not hers, even though the reality is it’s what she always wanted and set up to happen. George was trying to teach the young boys watching his movies what was up.
I am an expert on these matters, as I have a wife and kids. The answer is yes, I would, if I thought it would actually work. Don't think I could follow through on butchering children though. I'd skip that part.
>>733654793Padme gave all of her power as a senator to fucking Jar Jar, and puts herself in ludicrously dangerous situations despite having no combat or espionage training to speak of. Her judgement is pretty fucked.
>>733646331the 90s and 00s were both fucking great for it. once Disney bought the IP and gave EA an exclusivity deal, I knew we were never getting good Star Wars vidya ever again. Even after the EA exclusivity ended, it's never gotten any better.
>>733646145>omg palpatine is like literally HECKIN BLOOORMPPFFHFGGGGHHHH!!!!So true, have an updoot
>>733656276Just giving a current example. It's the same for any nation slowly becoming a dictatorship.
>>733656546>slowly becomingare you 16 or something?
Queen Hershlag isn't even as cute as her body double, Anakin should have just married her
>>733645215Why would you risk your life for your "friends" who don't trust you in the slightest or the hundred quadrillion lives that don't appreciate you trying your best when you can try your best to save the one person that loves you from the bottom of her heart?
>>733656737>half a dozen body doubles>for an elected queenWhat was Naboo's problem
>>733645215I think it makes more sense when you realize the powers of the force literally mind break you. otherwise I agree, it's retarded.
>>733653717Who's lucas? He sounds like a retard.
>>733657107a lot of assassinations it seems.
>>733655937>fucking Jarjar Binks was the last bastion of democracy, with the predictable outcomeWhat the fuck George meant by that?
>>733657316>no army>no real airforce>the royal transport is unarmed>the only other nation on the planet lives in near total isolation>royalty by election rather than messy heriditary bloodlines>ridiculous amounts of body doubles>can swing the Tax Dick hard enough to get themselves invadedSeems like the King or Queen of Naboo is someone who exists to see how far they can push shit before someone tries to murder them, like the entire reason for the monarchy is like the Presidency in Hitchhiker's Guide: there to distract from the real power being wielded by guys like Senator Palpatine (who coincidentally is also from Naboo)
>>733657928>no army>no real airforce>the royal transport is unarmed>the only other nation on the planet lives in near total isolationnone of this is true...>no army, no airforcebro they literally fight off a naval blockade, they are sitting tight at the start of the movie because they're waiting for the jedi to get there to avoid a pointless war. Also, it stands to reason that they rely on the republic for military support, and the blockade had only just started (and the republic's lack of an effective military is part of the issue, and the point of the clones)>unarmed transportit's not unarmed, but it's not a battlecruiser... It's meant to be like a luxury yacht, most of the time people don't run into navies and expect to shoot their way through..>gunguns are isolatedhow do we know this? They just live on the other side of the world (IIRC, don't they go through the middle of the planet when going to the capital?). Who is to say that there aren't naboo cities nearby, just not the one that the jedi needed to get to
>>733658650A handful of royal guards and an honor guard of a dozen starfighters are not a military. That's why the Trade Federation army has to be met in the field by the goddamn Gungans. The human population of the planet rolls over and submits within the hour.And we know because Boss Nass has to be convinced (with the Jedi Mind Trick) that anything that happens to the Naboo will affect the Gungans as well. He literally has to be forced into believing that their two nations form a "symbiote circle".
>>733659259the military might be engaged elsewhere, it was just like one lander that the movie showed. And better then gunguns die than humans
>>733645215Padmé was worth it.
>>733646210It was to remind viewers how high they were so when Windu goes out the window we can tell just how utterly fucked he is, pseud.
>>733660786They do it every single time someone loses their lightsaber in the prequels. We already knew they were high up in a sky scraper with a large window showing how high up they are.
>>733660786>basically everywhere on Coruscant is high up>the film is constantly shot in a way that emphasises nothing on Coruscant is near the ground>literally nothing stopping them using the same amount of time to show Windu falling the exact same wayYou're just assuming the audience is as stupid as the director, then?
>>733660892>They do it every time someone loses their lightsaberNo, they do it every time a lightsaber is dropped a huge distance (Obi-Wan, Windu, Yoda). You don't see it with Anakin's AOTC lightsaber because it's just destroyed right there. Emphasizing space isn't a bad thing, you know.>We already knew they were high upBut how high up? The Chancellor's office is only ever seen from the inside, with the windows showing a horizontal viewing on other buildings at the same level. That shot is the first time we see the an angle looking *down*, to the concrete jungle below.
>>733645215For the bit
>>733661257Go to sleep, Mike.
>>733645215I'd join an ancient evil to get rich and fuck bitches
>>733661417Holy fuck you're retarded. I bet you support the idea of Obi-Wan talking about their adventures together rather than actually seeing them.
>>733646350Meanwhile, the high IQ boomers that know what cinema and Star Wars should be like:https://youtu.be/-ZqdmfWKbb0https://youtu.be/U5bi-k2bd38
>>733646710Zoomers were born in like 2008, retard. How the fuck would they have grown up with Phantom Menace? Do you think we're still in 2013?
>>733661549>no argumentFigures. I'll accept the concession.
>>733654510>Lets say Anakin succeeded completely without Padme knowing until after the JO was destroyed, including Obi-Wan. Hows he gonna explain to his wife he betrayed them all The same way he *already told her* in the released movie?>"The situation is not good. The Jedi have tried to overthrow the Republic">"I can't believe that!">"I couldn't either at first, but it's true. I saw Master Windu attempt to assassinate the Chancellor myself">"Anakin, what are you going to do?">"I will not betray the Republic... my loyalties lie with the Chancellor and with the Senate... and with you"At least pay attention
>>733645524>It is good that you have never wondered what lay beneath her robes. If her alabaster skin was as white and unblemished as her face. Or if perhaps she bore the scars of slavery… and if that would stir you more. If perhaps her deferent tone would change once you held her by the throat, and showed her how far a Jedi can fall.
>>733661569American Graffiti is underrated, really loved that movie.
>>733645747Corrupted Ahsoka was so fucking hot
>>733661569Jesus Christ that second video is cringe incarnate. No wonder we got the sequels we got fucking hell.
>>733645478base abh enjoyer
Ani was so lucky
Did you guys ever notice that Ahsokafags are never fans of her character, they are just cumbrained gooners?
>>733664234why did birds poop on them both
>>733664650I like sexy characters and porn but theres always an 100% guarantee that if someone is spamming porn on a male dominated website for hours, days, weeks, months, YEARS on end with the intended purpose of arousing other men then they are a secondary. When you point this out they shit themselves in flailing, chupacabra rage.
Did you guys ever notice only Ahsoka gets singled out for having a coomer fanbase when Mission and Visas get the same type of posters
>>733645215Anakin's story in the prequels is retarded.It should've been an Apocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness-esque descent into cold, pragmatic fascism over the course of a long, grueling war that saw many friends and comrades chewed up and spit out by the galactic meatgrinder.The Republic should've been shown to be incompetent and scornful of its resources, wasting the lives of both troops and Jedi with reckless disregard as they played feckless politics with one another in the Senate. Anakin should've watched everyone he ever loved about die in battle. He should've watched their memories disgraced and everything they fought for trampled into dust. It shouldn't have been about sand and loving a woman and I had a bad dream, how do I save her?It should've been a "war is hell" story because that's the way Alec Guiness makes it sound when he talks to Luke about The Clone Wars in his little mudhut.You would've understood and really sympathized with Anakin becoming Darth Vader which would've given a lot more punch to his being a tragic character.
>>733665986>You would've understood and really sympathized with Anakin becoming Darth VaderThey don't want you to do this which is why they didn't go with your neonazi fantasy version of things
>>733645215palpatine mind controlled him and the jedi were a lil corrupt and didnt trust him
>>733666168>neonazi fantasyWhat the fuck do you think The Galactic Empire is? It's a Nazi LARP, was from the start.
>>733645215>Count Dooku is the greatest duelist the Jedi Order has produced in over a thousand years>Tutorial fight in this game
>>733666202>the jedi were a lil corruptThe Jedi were stagnant and complacent
>>733666334Also arrogant and retarded.
Every year that goes by and every new post I read the more I am glad people like >>733665986 weren't wearing the prequels.
>>733666498>wearingYou're telling me it wouldn't have been better to have an actual adult story instead of the dumbed down kidshit we got?The first movie should've started with Anakin/Hayden as a young adult. No movie where he's a fucking kid, no need to be on fucking Tatooine or any of that crap. No Jar Jar. You just introduce the Clone Wars threat and start the war.Second movie is your full on Empire Strikes Back meatgrinder film where the bad guys start winning and things get rough.Third movie is the fall of the Republic with Anakin going around doing horrible shit as Palpatine's executioner.
>>733666224Technically it's a mixture of Nazism and postwar American empire (which was created to a large extent by recruiting thousands of Nazis), which is exactly why there was no room for a romanticized depiction of Anakin falling for pragmatic fascism. The people working on the films understand that only neonazis carry around this "noble savage" view of fascists who are just motivated by loss and trauma instead of the simple truth...every fascist is motivated by selfish greed only. That's why Anakin's fall to the dark side is just about offering him forbidden things until he selfishly accepts the offered privileges no matter what violence must be visited onto others to maintain them. "Go kill those children and I'll give you what you want" is more accurate than any nonsense about becoming twisted by war.
>>733645215Unironically yes, most other people suck, built a society that sucks and now keep defending it.
>>733666646Who said it would be romanticized? The entire third film would be your vehicle for showing that Anakin as Vader and the master he now serves are even more evil than what they want to replace. It's just that they now have enough consolidation of resources to actually WIN the war under Palpatine's authoritarian regime. Of course, you would also show that he orchestrated the war himself behind the scenes, etc.But that's the story you're telling: how Luke's dad became a big ol' evil Nazi wizard.
>>733666616>You're telling me it wouldn't have been better to have some out of scope "I'm 15 and this is deep" Apocalypse Now rip-off plot over a continuation and recontextualization of the central ideas behind the Skywalker Saga as a scifi epic for the modern timePretty much yeah. George accurately predicted there was a time and a place for such stories in his universe, and it sure wasn't one of the main movies. Andor is great, but its style wouldn't work for a numbered Episode the same way its depiction of a nuanced Empire wouldn't have worked for A New Hope.
>>733645215
>>733666828>Who said it would be romanticized?The entire notion is a romanticized vision of fascist indoctrination that casts fascists as sad boys who just suffered too much and became evil because oops when the truth, as portrayed in the films, is much simpler. Fascists are simply greedy, selfish people who will put personal gain and pride over the lives of others. That's the theme we see with all of the traitors like Dooku and the entire character arc for Anakin. Luke's dad chose to kill children because he was selfish and thought he was entitled to have the things he wanted. The scene where he gets denied the rank of master and throws a fit is the essence of fascist derangement.
>>733645215Because he let his personal attachments override his duty. The jedi are supposed to be like ascetic warrior monks who achieve transcendence through self-denial and submission to the Logos. Anakin fell because he was too caught up in his own attachments, his own feelings and desires, and tried to bend the universe to his will rather than Surrendering and conforming his will to cooperate with the intended design of the universe.>>733665986There was supposed to be an element of the Jedi being too much of a political/military entity within the Republic as opposed to their original purpose as a religious organization, the movies are just awful and bad at communicating, and external media seems not to have picked up on that either.
>>733645215why is it ok when Kirk does it for Spock in Star Trek III but not when Anakin does it?
>>733667114I think it's more that the tone of the movies is jarringly different and more kid-oriented in the prequels than in the original trilogy. I get it, you want Disney Lucas because it's what you grew up with but you're wrong. Trust me, I'm old. I remember pre-TPM Star Wars.>>733667317Anakin is meant to be a tragic character, you retard, which is why he is redeemed at the end of the trilogy. His redemption makes no sense if he's just a childish babykiller who was throwing a 40 year tantrum.
>>733646210>RLM makes a name and a legacy off how they shit on the prequel trilogy>they are not only silent on the sequel trilogies, they actively ignore themWhy DID they do it? It's not like the prequels are worse than the sequels.
>>733667496I haven't watched Gay Trek.
>>733666375snoke has never looked better !
>>733667665Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan was from 1982, and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock was in 1984 thougheverbeits'd've
>>733667658Every now and then they pop up to try to run cover on themselves for ruining Star Wars.>yeah the Disney Sequels are bad... bUt ThE PreQuELs aRE WoRSe
>>733667658they're evil, simple as
>>733645215Ai yo.
>>733667559>the tone of the movies is jarringly different and more kid-oriented in the prequels than in the original trilogy
>>733645215Because the Force in Star Wars works akin to Chaos Gods in WH40K>hurr durr retarded 40K fan bringing it up in every discussionSTFU and hear me out because I was also a life-long Star Wars fan and I know what I am talking about.>What the Jedi think: The Force connects all living beings, it must be served, it is fundamentally benevolent, "Without Force there would be no life" - QGJ.That later statement is obviously retarded as evidenced by the Yuuzhan Vong amongst other things. The rest is more complicated.>What the Sith think: The Force is to be made one's bitch and used as a tool/weapon to further one's own ambitionWhat the Force really is: a shadow of the fundamental aspects of all life. Light Side: the desire to protect, including oneself, compassion, positive emotions. The Dark Side: the desire to dominate, survive at all costs, anger, hatred. And here is how it is similar to 40K Gods. Those gods are also the shadows of the fundamental aspects of life. THEY HAVE AN AGENCY OF THEIR OWN BUT NO FREE WILL OR TRUE SAPIENCE. Basically: life feeds the Chaos Gods and those gods amplify the stuff they are made of and propagate it back into life. Khorne is made of roid rage and he exterts an influence of roid rage. Slaanesh is made of sex drugs and rock and roll and xir inflicts an influence of hedonism on living things. Etc. The Chaos Gods have agency but only insofar as propagating their own nature.The Force is the same. Survival of the fittest/negative emotions feed the Dark Side and the Dark Side reflects that back on life. Light Side, similar. This is why the Jedi are retarded: they serve an uncaring Force of nature. And this is why the Sith are retarded, they pretend the Dark Side does not corrupt them, when it does. The Force is like a cosmic mass hysteria, only more subtle.Anakin flirted into the DS one too many times and it got to him, simple as, once again, similarly to how Chaos corrupts in 40K.
>>733667665>these are supposed to be star fleet officers
>>733667559Well yeah, his redemption never made sense in the first place. Suddenly deciding that you'd rather kill the dictator than your own son doesn't clear away your tab for being mecha-Hitler for 40 years. Return of the Jedi is the most kid-oriented film in the franchise lolThe tragedy of Anakin is that all of that horrible shit that happens in the originals could have been prevented if he wasn't a selfish, childish egoist who chose his own desires over the lives of others.
>>733667904Excuse me, I am a Grey Jedi, and that means I use BOTH Light Force techniques AND Sith Lightning.
>>733667559>kid-orientedEvery single Prequels movie is darker than every single OT movie. Even the most light toned Prequel in TPM has the protagonist and his mother enslaved under the constant threat of being killed by bombs they have implanted in their body.The sole event in the OT that mirrors any of the darkness in the Prequels is Owen and Beru Lars being burned to death. Even Alderaan's destruction, while abominable morally, is only experienced with detachment.
>>733667901>points to the exception everyone hates and pretends it's the ruleClassic.
>>733668046> I am a Grey JediAs Jedi should be.https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Je%27daii_OrderBefore everyone went full retard.
>>733645215yes. all morality which fails to serve my interests is a spook. and the lives of other people are my property. and the friends are my property. and the wife is my property. and the ancient evil is my property. and the galaxy is my property.>>733645747this is also my property
>>733668084>everyone hatesRLMfag revisionismeveryone loved Return of the Jedi
>>733668169You are a donkey and you probably believe in Lightsaber fencing styles, too.
>>733667658Because deep down they know the sequels were made following their reviews. Simon Pegg loved their reviews and he worked on TFA with JJ. JJ went on record saying he watched the second video in >>733661569 back in the day in preparation for TFA. You have the classic ""JJ should've directed Star Wars and Lucas shouldve directed people to their seats", and obviously you have https://youtu.be/AvsiJppCdmk?t=171RLM, The People vs George Lucas, "George Lucas raped our childhood"... they all created Disney Wars. And now we're all paying for it.
>>733668213>everyone loved Return of the Jedi"Teddy bears beat the empire" is a complaint as old as the movie
>>733668213RLMfags choke on RotJ's furry ewok cock as they worship the OT
>>733668268a complaint primarily by nitwits who didn't watch the movie
>>733668213I didn't say people hate ROTJ, I said people hate the Ewoks. The movie is massively carried by the charm of the (pre-Special Edition fuckery) Jabba sequence and the throne room sequence.
>>733645215prequel trilogy > original trilogy
>>733668438The Jedi Reutrns > The Phantom Menace > A New Hope > The Empire Strikes Back > Attack of the Clones > Revenge of the Sith > rancid shit left to bake in the sun for 3 days > anything Yidney made
>>733668084>the tone of the movies is jarringly different and more kid-oriented in the prequels than in the original trilogy
>>733645215Not if it's natalie portman. That bitch was the single worst aspect of the prequels. I'd join just for the cool red lightsaber.
>>733668608>pointing to the exception and pretending it's the rule>AGAINNice job conveniently ignoring 99% of the prequels. Tell me how that CGI monstrosity farting at the pod race was "kino" or something.
>>733668608Who among us didn't exterminate a gang of rapist murderers down to the last man, woman, and child during recess as children?
>>733668268Originally it was gonna be Wookiees but good luck finding a bunch of 6 foot and above extras for that task. But they kept the “ewoks have comparable strength” to Wookiees bit.
>>733668604
>>733646179>takes place in the past but references something that happened in return of the jedi even though it would be extremely dangerous and whatever reason for it is an asspullthis is why i can't take nerd media seriously
>>733668761>Originally it was gonna be Wookieesstop repeating this fucking myth, the only time it was ever considered to be "wookiees" was in the very first drafts back when wookiees looked like purple goblins and Alderaan was called Aquila and the entire story was going to be completed in a single movieewoks are in the very earliest drafts for the ACTUAL PRODUCTION SCREENPLAY that was Return of the Jedi
>>733645215You're right. I'll side with stagnant corruption instead of strength and human progress instead.
>>733658650>bro they literally fight off a naval blockadeBy the 3rd act almost of the trade federation ships disappeared except for one that also controlled all the droids. There was no real explanation for why they left except for the obvious that a handful of fighters and a child taking on like 10 capital ships would be impossible even by bad movie standards.
>>733668713The Phantom Menace>Anakin and Shmi Skywalker are enslaved with no hope of freedom, literally have bombs in them>Jar Jar Binks is cast out of his society under threat of execution if he returnsAttack of the Clones>the dessication of Zam Wessell>Shmi Skywalker is tortured to death by Tusken Raiders>Clegg Lars is permanently crippled and had his friends murdered while trying to rescue his wife>Anakin Skywalker massacres an entire society, including women and children>the Clone Wars kick off via the extrajudicial execution in a Roman coliseum by feeding political prisoners to animals>the Clones are a literal slave armyRevenge of the Sith>literally the entire movieA New Hope>Owen and Beru Lars are immolated>Ben Kenobi cuts off some random guy's arm>Alderaan is destroyed at the push of a buttonThe Empire Strikes Back>Darth Vader cuts off Luke Skywalker's handReturn of the Jedi>Twi'lek dancer is fed to Jabba's rancorEven thematically, the fall of the Galactic Republic into authoritarianism is more "grown up" than plucky rebel stands up to the big bad Nazis and saves the galaxy because good will always triumph over evil.
>>733668713>the movies are far more kid-oriented!>if you ignore the droids shenanigans in the OT>and you ignore kids liking yoda being a funny crazy hobo muppet>and you ignore the political talk in TPM>and you ignore Anakin slaughtering an entire village in AOTC>and you ignore the galaxy being in open war at the end of AOTC including clones dying and Ani getting his arm cut off>and you ignore Order 66, Operation Knightfall and the entirety of Mustafar in ROTSYes anon, they're all far more kid-oriented than the OT. I mean, that's why the OT famously wasn't watched and beloved by kids so much so they turned into 45yo retards decades later on the internet, and why there were no OT Star Wars toys in the 80s!oh wait
>>733668438>>733668604A New Hope > Empire Strikes Back = Revenge of the Sith > The Phantom Menace = Return of the Jedi > Attack of the Clones
>>733669030Its not a myth you demented troglodyte.
>>733669228You could also include Han's torture and being frozen alive from Empire, as well as Luke being electrocuted on the floor of the throne room. Potentially Luke decapitating not-Vader in the trippy dark side cave.
>Don't lecture me, Boomer. I see through the lies of Red Letter Media! I do not fear the Prequels as you do!
>>733669106>I'll side with stagnant corruption instead of strength and human progress instead.Perfect example of how the prequels are dead accurate about the fascist's selfish thought process and how they invert everything. Again, Anakin gets a corrupt appointment but the jedi recognize that he isn't worthy, and his response is continued entitled rather than actual progress to become worthy. Instead, he follows along behind the actual person doing all of the corrupt things behind the scenes to destabilize society and carries out the orders that apply violence to take the things he doesn't deserve.
>>733669584wookiees ceased to be considered for that role by 1974it's a myth that Return of the Jedi was ever going to involve wookiees in the final battle, it was made up wholecloth by anti-Lucas RLMfanboys in the late 1990s
>>733669769How can you be on the council and not be a Master?
>>733645215Remember that it is entirely moral and acceptable to sacrifice the entire galaxy (goyim) for one jew (Natalie Portman).
>>733666616>The first movie should've started with Anakin/Hayden as a young adult. No movie where he's a fucking kidSomeone that unironically says this doesn't understand the prequels or Anakin as a character which means he doesn't understand Star Wars as a Saga.
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>>733647295Because she didn't really want to break up with him either. They're both caught in a "we really shouldn't, but god I would give in the very second you choose to say fuck it and break through," which is why they end up together.
>>733670104women am I right fellas
>>733669932Someone that says this is just a fucking idiot. He didn't need to be a kid with a bad upbringing on Tattooine. He didn't need to be the Chosen One. His wife didn't need to be a Queen and a Senator. They do not rhyme, it's just over indulgent self referential horseshit.
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>>733668352I don't care how much of a contrarian cunt you are a bunch of teddy bears beating up grown men in armor by lightly tapping them with sticks is cringe. Also that whole part of ROTJ where harrison ford is standing in front of a door for like 30 minutes felt like filler and badly needed a rewrite.
>>733669428This anon gets it
>>733670119Anakin has a penis though. He can't be a woman.
>>733667803The prequels were bad though. They didn't "ruin" shit. They have bad taste if they actually like the Disney shit, but thats a separate issue.
>>733670119As if you'd say no to pic related if you were a femoid.
>>733670226it's been 40 years and you're still a mental pre-schooler angry that someone made a story with your toys you didn't like while everyone else on the planet had fun
>>733670226Harrison Ford phoned in RotJ hard. I don't understand why he despises Han Solo so much but loves Indiana Jones.
>>733670151>His wife didn't need to be a QueenHow else is he supposed to end up with a princess as a daughter? It's basic logic that follows from the future end point of the story.
>>733670534Leia isn't princess of Naboo.Also after episode IV she's not even princess of Alderaan l m a o
>>733670469You still haven't said WHY the ewoks were good you moron.
>>733670582Fundamentally you're complaining that the backstory of the father of the character known as "Princess Leia" includes a love affair with a queen
>>733671147I'm some other anon. I would never complain about the plot of the Prequels. Love my jew queen senator waifu
>>733645215the dark side basically hijacks your brain to turn you into a murder robot who is obsessed with power, letting any and all motivations for seeking that power fall to the wayside
>>733670476He's probably like Guinness, thought the whole thing was retarded and wanted to use it as a stepping stone.Only what he thought was a stepping stone kept wanting him back and he didn't wanna be known as a "Space Smuggler" when he could be a Clint Eastwood superhero instead.Classic boomer retarded mindset ig, fuck him.
>>733670476Because hes an asshole. He hates everyone and everything, even so much as asking him questions about what time it is makes him into some disgruntled prick. Which is great for characterization, but theres a reason nobody really likes him, even by Pedowood standards. I dunno maybe he realized its all hokey bullshit for idiots, done for a paycheck under a satanic cabal.
>>733645421That's not really true though. Anakin held Padme on a pedestal. She was an angel to him, and he only cared for his vision of that angel. Every time she does or says something that doesn't align with it he shuts her out. Padme is constantly talking about democracy and those virtues while Anakin always leans towards dictatorships. Padme never wanted the war and was willing to risk her life to cast her vote against an army, while Anakin loves the war and views it as great.
>>733654793That will always be the worst, yet funniest, scene in the whole prequel trilogy as it perfectly shows how poorly written anakin and padme and their utterly cringe romance was.
>>733671795Anakin does not love the war. He goes Sith eyes during the slaughter of the CIS leadership council because he fucking hates them as a result of the war. The war puts Anakin's friends in jeopardy. He values Padme above all else but he is still incredibly loyal to his team, as demonstrated in the opening of Revenge of the Sith where he expresses a desire to save random clones while on the most important mission of the war.
>>733671795Anakin hates the Clone Wars. The 2008 show glorifies it by showing him making quips and acting confident and smug, but its not fun to him at all. All other EU media paints it as something done out of necessity with the horrors breaking even the most staunch of Jedi. I mean yeah its fiction but its completely unbelievable for a semi-adjusted person to love warfare even if you're some force using chosen one demigod.
>>733672039Anakin is shown to be the happiest when he's actively engaging the enemy and loves that there's action and not talking. Him being happy when he gets to resolve things through violence and force is a consistent throughline.
>>733645215in a way it was an allusion to the Garden of Eden.God had given Adam everything, provided for all his needs, and gave only 1 simple rule.Then God gave Adam a wifeThen an ancient evil tricked her into breaking the 1 simple rule, which God had decreed breaking that rule would result in their deaths. She broke the rule.Then she went to her husband and offered for him to break the rule too. He was not deceived, he knew what would happen, but he did anyway.Why?Because he chose to die with his wife rather than live forever without her.That is why it is Adam's sin rather than Eve's sin.Eve was tricked, God cursed the serpent that tricked her more than he punished her.Genesis 3:>13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.>14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:>15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.>16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.But Adam chose his wife over God and the entire universe. 1 Timothy 2:>14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.Genesis 3:>17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;>because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wifeAdam chose his wife above the entire rest of the universe.so did Anakinbravo Lucas
>>733672587I think you are reading too much into it anon
>Star Wars ThreadOh, what a nice find.Any good SW games you guys would recommend?
>>733672753Depends. What are you looking for?
>>733672686maybe the star wars side of it cause that was kind of a jokebut biblically there's a reason there won't be marriage after the resurrection and restoration of all things.
>>733672753which have you played and which genres do you like?
>>733672753KOTOR1 and KOTOR2, the original Battlefront 2's singleplayer, The Force Unleashed, Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga
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>>733667317>like Dookuhuh, Dooku was not meant to be 'evil' but rather pragmatic but not fully in the know, which is why he's often portrayed as a Grey Jedi etcAlso the Sith and Jedi are based on Samurai and Japanese Samurai tropes (real and film) which is why Vaders helm looks like that of a Japanese Sengoku general
>>733673092We are introduced to Dooku with the attempted assassination of a Galactic Senator lmao
>We will never get the original plan for the prequels where the silly comedic relief gets revealed as being pure evilGoddamn why did George have to chicken out? It would've been so fucking kino that Jar Jar was pretending the whole time
>>733673240>le darth jar jar guys so funnyWhat a shitty reddit meme
>>733673092>Dooku was not meant to be 'evil' but rather pragmaticDooku is meant to be the sort of selfish and prideful man who justifies evil by calling it pragmatism. Palpatine, Dooku, and Anakin all show the exact same thirst for personal power that causes them to discard any morality that holds them back from taking what they want. Dooku just dresses up his ambition in more sophistry since he's not a raging teenager.
>>733673092>Dooku was not meant to be 'evil'He was named Darth Tyranus in the films, the official tie-in novel has him as an outright human supremacist and the EU comics and cartoons go into more depth about actual evil shit he did. Like selling the entire Togruta race into slavery.
Did George really expect us to believe that the Clone Wars was only 3 years?
>>733672147> Anakin hates the Clone Wars. The 2008 show glorifies it by showing him making quips and acting confident and smug, but its not fun to him at all.watch the films you dumb fucking moron>All other EU medialollmao even
>>7336733853 years of non stop action
>>733645605Based.
>>733673447>like a constant porno, Luke
>>733673149Dooku is ultimately played up to be the >good guy turned bad because he was deceived in what he thought was choosing a rebellious high road, as the true nature of the Sith was hidden to himHis main motif was the undersold corruption of the Jedi Order and it's decay, which is an important theme of the 3rd movie but people forget about it. That's why he's characterized as a disillusioned Jedi Master. The EU and the CW show go elsewhere with it.Similar to Greivous who wasn't 'Sith Evil' just crazy war machine, even in his cooler interpretation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W8dJaK0FrzM - IMO this is because before the George Lucas exclusive versions of the Universe wanted to keep the Sith concentrated/small in the movies as to justify the ending of Return of the Jedi, but most people especially here mix up the movies with EU stuff so they don't see it from that angle.
>>733673385Three years of hundreds of planets galaxy-wide in literal non-stop wars? Yeah I can see that.
>>733645215It's called being a main character and not a goycattle npc
>>733673385hyperspace travel can help with logistics that bogs down wars on Earth
>>733673750Three years of a trade consortium's robot guards versus a few million hastily bred vat clones spread over dozens of worlds?Not even slightly. Neither side was remotely near "non stop war for years over multiple theatres" tier. If the CIS had been that strong going into the conflict they would've won in record time because the Republic has no military.
>>733673649>His main motif was the undersold corruption of the Jedi Order and it's decay, which is an important theme of the 3rd movie but people forget about it.Because it was very poorly done
>>733673092>Dooku was not meant to be 'evil' but rather pragmatic but not fully in the know, which is why he's often portrayed as a Grey Jediwhy are star wars threads always full of mouth breathing retards, who clearly have never watched the movies, and supplant them with some weird, made up headcanon fanfiction? how is it possible to get filtered by movies for 12 year olds? why are star wars fans so impossibly dumb?
My powers have doubled since the last Star Wars thread, Count
>>733674192Twice the BTFO, double the kek
>>733674071Whats that webm meant to proveDo you want me to post a pic of Americans throwing tea into the sea and starting a war with the Brits to paint George Washington as evilThe reason Dooku wanted the war is because the Jedi were controlling the republic while being decadentYou as a watcher now know who Sideous is, and that he's evil/looks evil, but his relation with Dooku at the time was not meant to be 'lets start a war just for genocide lol', the war was obviously targeting Jedi, Dooku did not know Sideous wanted to be Emperor or would betray him - ergo what motives did Dooku have other than the ones I stated?
>>733673385Did Johnson really expect us to believe that the First Order conquered the entire galaxy in just a few hours, especially after having just lost Starkiller Base?
Dooku is something I'd describe as a "Grey Sith" if that were a thing. He's Sith to the core, he's pragmatic sure but still evil even if he has a "greater good" goal in mind, and he uses the dark side freely but he doesn't act like a Sith, and doesn't fully follow their teachings. Similar to the iconic Grey Jedi Qui-Gon, who follows the teachings of the Force but not necessarily the Jedi
>>733673385With only 1.2 million clones according to attack of the clones, and yes unit means 1 clone.
>>733645215If they ever remake this game or re release it they should add a GOW sex mini game with Anakin and Natalie Portman
>>733674252blow your brains out, mouth breathing retardsave some oxygen for the rest of us
>>733673937>dozens of worldsI fear you may be downplaying the number of planets involved ever so slightly. The clone wars covered the entire galaxy, a galaxy with ~1.3 million planets held by the Republic and 10,000+ systems controlled by the Separatists.>If the CIS had been that strong going into the conflict they would've wonYeah not like both sides were controlled by the same grandpa or anything.
Did it really have to end this way?
>>733674071Sideous was using Dooku, Dooku thought he was doing the right thinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKm4ueVuxpY
>>733674343TLJ happens literally the next day after TFA yet not a single person in the galaxy cares about the 155 BILLION PEOPLE that Starkiller Base blew up. Not one peep from a single person in, like, Canto Bight. Nothing.
>>733674394Where's your counter argument?
>>733674252>Dooku did not know Sideous wanted to be Emperor or would betray him>Knows and sees Palps accumulating massive amounts of unchecked power in the governmentLiterally what other outcome could he possibly be expecting?
>>733674402Turns out, not really.
>>733674346>>733674252The entire point of Dooku is that all his pragmatism is just a pretense to do whatever he wills. He doesn't actually serve a greater good, he makes up a greater good to serve his desires and that's why he can just turn heel on a whim and start working with the real corrupt actor.
>>733674594He thought he'd get taken in as a prisoner of war and then say he had no idea what atrocities were being committed by the rest of the CIS. Get a redemption and assume high office alongside palps. He was really this naive.
>>733645215Because wife dead bad. Any other questions?
>>733674594The nature of the Sith was secretDoodoo did not know Sideous was the Chancellor Just like the rest of the CIS Dooku was hoping the Jedi would surrender and offer amicable terms (like yknow the objective in any rebellious war), instead the Peaceful Jedi went full Warhawk and didn't stop fighting until the tables turnedThe Prequels subvert the nature of the Rebels in the OT into the CIS and subvert the Empire into the Republic to point out how the Empire arose in the first place (as to surprise viewers who had to wait between movies - it was a prequel, and at the time you needed surprises but "prequels" weren't as big of a thing back then). It shows how in a setting as 'expanded' as George was making it, how such things could occur while surprising the people seeing it movie by movie for the first time.
>>733674490Dooku knew the entire plan and was in on it from the beginning. He ordered the creation of the clone army, knowing that their ultimate purpose was to kill all the Jedi, erased Kamino from the Jedi Archives, created the false-flag Separatist movement and starting the war. These plans were designed with Darth Sidious as his master. He knew the goal was to create the Sith Empire, and he was planning on ruling it. He knew ALL OF IT, and he willingly went along with all of it. What he did not know was that Sidious was going to let Anakin kill him. Dooku was an evil Sith Lord named Darth Tyranus. And he was an arrogant fool, who could not see that he was being replaced.
>>733674538I was one of the ten people who watched the Resistance cartoon just to see how bad it was and it's so frustrating what they do thereIt starts with the main kid saying his family lives on Hosnian Prime and you just think "oh god" and then towards the end of season 1 it blows up. The kid's a little upset but hardly reacts as he takes it pretty damn well considering his home and entire family died in an instant.Oh but actually it later gets revealed his family was off world at the time so they're fine even though it means nothing since they never get mentioned again. And even in the cartoon no one gives a shit that the entire New Republic got destroyed and never talk about it.It's like the sequels corrupt everything it touches
>>733674550no one is going to argue with a braindead retard who did not understand the basic premise of the movies, sorry
>>733674397>the entire galaxyNothing in Star Wars has ever been "the entire galaxy". It's still not a war that would have been over in 3 years with the manpower both sides started with. It's just shitty writing from people who don't understand scale. The initial run of clones wouldn't have been enough to defend even one planet in an actual "entire galaxy" war.
>>733674865>Dooku knew the entire planIts never explicitly stated. The implication Palps was Sideous. Dooku ultimately did not do what he did just to give palps a promotion. Its why he didn't betray Sideous' identity to Anakin when Sheev said "KILL HIM NOW">DEW IT
>>733674834>Doodoo did not know Sideous was the ChancellorCome on now.
>>733674986Why they just didn't bother to explore left side of the galaxy?
>>733674834>Doodoo did not know Sideous was the Chancellor>"What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a dark Lord of the Sith?" >"The Dark Side has clouded their vision. Hundreds of Senators are now under the influence of a Sith lord called Darth Sidious.">Turns to look at him with puppy eyes after sheev tells Anakin to kill himHe very clearly knew. He didn't know he would be used as a stepping stone for Anakin but it's just wrong to pretend that Dooku didn't know Palps was Sidious
>>733674865You know I'm finding it strange the man whos older than his master never once thought he was on the chopping block for replacement. Dooku is well past the prime of his life biologically speaking and Sidious is a goddamn Sith Lord. Surely in the 10+ years they worked together he must have realized he was never the endgame, just based on simple logic.
>>733675064The EU makes it cannon that he did, but the movies clearly make it so he only realizes just as he's getting executed. He knew Sideous was pulling strings, but not specifically that Sheev was Hideous.
>>733675147>Dooku is well past the prime of his life biologically speakingDid you ever hear the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise?
Which way, Coruscanti man?
>>733675230Oh come on, he wasn't that ugly before the scarring.
>>733675147It's almost like hubris was his flaw from the start and the reason he turned, as if there's some kind of commentary on the type of person who can be tempted by power being unable to imagine how they could be destroyed by it even as they use it to destroy others
>>733675147He's just very arrogant. Arrogance is number one flaw of all Star Wars villains that turns them borderline retarded. Every single one. It all boils down to arrogance, they get cocky, underestimate someone, and they get fucked in some of the most pathetic ways imaginable.
>>733675230I never got the impression he didn't know. If anything, his look at the beginning of ROTS comes across precisely as "wtf master".
>>733675230The novelization has this internal monologue of him realizing that ultimately everything hes worked toward means nothing now and never will.
>>733675115https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTcLDBmvcM0If you assume Dooku knew, you also have to assume he was with Sideous for the sake of Sideous' plan itself, otherwise he'd betray him, ergo why he said nothing in the end when Sideous was tying up loose ends.If you assume Dooku didn't know, this is a look of confusion and surprise as to only now getting that Sheev is Palps and realizing he is being played for Sheev's ambitions and plans, which he realizes did not align with his own understanding of the situation ergo the reason he didn't speak is 'surprise' which is why Sheev was rushing Anakin.Imo the 2nd makes more sense.
>>733674986>"Nothing in Star Wars has ever been "the entire galaxy" ">shows pic of the entire galaxy>>733675114India is there.
>>733675425Dooku btfo
>>733675492Don't be stupid. The page is bent in that image, the entire left side of the galaxy is Unknown Regions on every single map of every single time period.
>>733675514>to be the victim of Anakin skywalker's first cold blooded murder?
>>733675268I do like me a curved dueling saber buuuut...'ol QGJ's is calling to me.
>>733675478He obviously knew. It was obvious and explicit since the second film, and Lucas confirmed it explicitly for idiots like you a bunch of times. You may stop now. In the script, Dooku was begging for his life. Christopher Lee asked George to cut it, because he wanted Dooku to have some dignity in the end. That's it.
>>733675925Do you expect nobility to count the lives of commoners as real kills?
>>733675492Theres new worlds being discovered in the Inner and Mid-Rim territories all the time. It would be borderline impossible to know every single planet in a galaxy with billions of stars and billions of worlds. Its why SW's sense of scales always tickles me. The Empire only has like 10,000 star destroyer ships or the clones only number a few million. The Empire bare minimum should have millions of those and clones on kamino should be being pumped out in the tens of billions
>>733675925Dooku doesn't know about the Tusken Raiders and even if he did, I suspect he wouldn't consider them "people" enough to be murdered.
What makes more sense>Clone Wars lasting 3 years>The New Sith Wars from Legends taking a thousand years
>>733675114I think it's because there were no hyperspace routes mapped for those areas.
>>733676023I prefer Lee's version of just meeting Anakin's eyes and giving him the People's Eyebrow before death
>>733675853>>733676038So are you two retarded or merely pretending? Do you not know what a colloquialism is? If someone was to say "the whole galaxy's looking for you!" you'd go "ackchyually only the *known* galaxy would be looking for me, 'cause there's planets that haven't been found yet"? Fuck me.
>>733676023>Christopher Lee asked George to cut it, because he wanted Dooku to have some dignity in the endKinda surprising Georgy boy went for it considering how much a pathetic death fits that type of character, but I can also see not wanting to argue with a veteran actor on why he needs to start acting like a dying fascist with no dignity
>>733675925>T*sken RAIDERS>(((people)))
>>733676304Yeah, Christopher Lee is a very respected actor, so I guess Lucas was okay with granting him his wish. Similar to that case of Samuel L. Jackson asking for a purple lightsaber, even though Lucas said to him there are only greens and blues, but he agreed to give him purple because he asked for it. Despite what people say about Lucas being surround by "yes men", he was very good at listening to people's suggestions, even the actors.
>>733676304Contrary to popular belief propped up by RLM types, George often took advice from the people he collaborated with. If you read the behind the scenes of the prequels there's this repeated notion where people are like "wait, George hired me because he thinks I can do my job" and they're left to their own devices only to come up with iconic ship, planet or character designs.
>>733676304Chirstopher Lee was a respected actor, fencer and personally knew JRR Tolkien. Guys like that only come along once in a generation, its even more of a miracle if they're nice people to work with.
Look at my boy. Peak /fa/.
>>733676553It always kills me when loremasters start going in depth about the thematics and messaging behind the lightsaber colors and how different colors means different things and it actually just goes back to Jackson asking for purple one.
>>733676309If modern values weren't all fucked up, it would be treated like a space fantasy iteration of a typical fairy tale where the hero slaughters assgoblins and saves the commoners in his domain, and wins the princess' heart in the process.
>>733676968Hey man, she married and banged him after he told her how he saved the innocent moisture farmers of the Dune Sea from those savages.
>>733675268Maul > Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan ROTS > Anakin > Obi-Wan TPM > Mace Windu > Dooku > Shaak Ti > Yoda
>>733677035It was treated as a heinous deed in both the SW universe and the narrative framing for the audience.
>>733676935Even if George's original intention was only to have blue and green, the decision to give Windu a purple one has affected the lore moving forward. He's had to go with the flow for a lot of things, Darth Vader being Luke's father and later Leia being his sister for instanceAnd besides, you wouldn't expect to see a Jedi casually wielding a yellow lightsaber right?
>>733676935Pretty much. All the "lore" is just shameless exploitation of the Star Wars name, ridiculous made up irrelevant bullshit explanations for the shit that never asked or needed to be explained, that was never intended to be there in the first place. It was a profitable cash cow that was milked hard, which is why it was allowed to exist. I don't think there is anything wrong per se to enjoy it, but it's ridiculous how seriously people take that shit.
>>733676887He had the best lightsaber handle
>>733677129I had a double-bladed maul lightsaber as a kid that eventually broke in half, and I can safely say it felt way better to handle than any of the other hilts you could get at the time.
>>733677417This was a fun novel
>>733677210>ou wouldn't expect to see a Jedi casually wielding a yellow lightsaber rightThe greatest Jedi of all did
>>733645215>to kill your wife anywaysFtfy.
>>733677417>....except after he kills sheev. Then he's good again.
>>733677603Who
>>733674986>Mon Calamari declares for the Republic>Despite being entirely cut off from it>Despite their planets other sapient species siding with the SeperatistsThe Fish people got balls
>>733677603>The greatest Jedi of all didRey ̶P̶a̶l̶p̶a̶t̶i̶n̶e̶ Skywalker?!
>>733675925That was clearly a hotblooded murder though.
>>733677852They really should have given her the yellow lightsaber by the second episode, nevermind the end of the third. Also would have been interesting if Rey was actually relatively weak in the force and relied more on her talents and friends instead of actually turning out to be the strongest Jedi evar.
>>733677417>Because now yourself is all you will ever haveOk, but that's the whole dilemma with the Jedi as well. Yes his actions led to the death of Padme, but it's not like he could've been with her any other way. He was about to have to start raising children without the Jedi council knowing. Had he got found out then, not only would he be in massive trouble for breaking the rules on relationships, Luke would be ripped away from him to be trained as a Jedi and Anakin probably would've still snapped.
>>733645215Because the (((Force))) made him just for that purpose.He had no agency.
>>733678025Fuck off Kreia
>>733677949Maybe instead of "somehow Anakin's (Luke's) lightsaber returned" after it being destroyed in TLJ and remade for TRoS, she could've just built a new yellow one for the 9th movieLike it's so weird as is, they keep pushing her with the yellow lightsaber in stuff but she never gets a chance to use it in the movies, and never will at this rate
>>733677949They should've given her a double-bladed lightsaber, too. Not only would it stand out as unusual for a main character, it'd actually follow through as payoff for setting her up as having familiarity with the weapon type from her life as a scavenger.
>>733677958Jedi are allowed to leave the Jedi Order. Anakin would have left the Order after the Clone Wars to live a happy life with Padme and his twins.
>>733678208They still would've taken Luke though
The prequels fucking suck so goddamn muchwalking out of that midnight showing in 1999 when I was 14, I just knew Star Wars was suddenly fucking gay
>>733678195>>733678197The 2nd movie was just a phenomenal waste of time that crippled the whole trilogy. It's existence is baffling.
>>733678314While it's fun to meme about how the Jedi are a cult that kidnap children, they don't do so without permission.
The only good thing about the sequels is Rey's themehttps://youtu.be/65As1V0vQDMYou listen to it and yearn for what never was ie a good character well written for a good storyline
>>733645215Vader was not simply a bad mustache-twirling villain. He enforces the law, he leads soldiers into combat, he says to Luke he wishes to bring order to the galaxy. He is a lawful man who did not fear to use the power of the dark side in order to settle conflicts, but indulging in the dark side's power ended up consuming his soul. Then the prequels come along and make Anakin's story a retarded emo meltdown in one rough afternoon and he wakes up as Vader. Though at least it wasn't an instant transformation like Sheev instantly turning into scrotum head.
>>733678458I did genuinely like most of the actors and the general outline of the characters. Boyega is a bit of a shithead but he at least had good chemistry with Oscar Isaac in the first movie, but I think Oscar Isaac has good chemistry with just about anyone. Daisy Ridley was okay but I think her experience with the fandom kind of took her heart out of it after the first movie. Which is kind of fair.
>>733678458Would've much rather had Jacen and Jaina than this slop
>>733645215The jedi were retarded and treated him like shit, he wasn't exactly wrong about that one. They were also blind or just unwilling to actually try to understand him and offer genuine help.
>>733645215Anakin's woman moment. Note how he also gayly grew out his hair when he made this decision
>>733678810I will never forgive what the EU authors did to Jacen Solo in NJOthat shit was 100 times worse than the sequel trilogy
The whole "Jedi Recruit people when they're toddlers" was definitely the dumbest decision the prequels laid out. I know Yoda said "Too old to begin the training" to Luke but that was when Luke was a grown ass man. Saying it to a 9 year old is just retarded. On top of it making Anakin's fall almost comical.
>>733668604Backstroke of the west > india > all SW media
>>733678403What sucks is that it was so close to greatness where you have Rey actually take Kylo's hand but the movies always had to play it as safe as possible, Johnson was fine with being subverting every expectation but drew the line at that.7 has Rey constantly angry and 8 and 9 toy with the idea that she'll go dark, yet she never does. Even in the end she still has immense anger problems and nothing ever comes of that. It's a miracle she hasn't turned dark yet.Have it where Rey and Kylo have swapped sides by 9, that would've been fucking awesome and could've redeemed the sequels at least a little
>>733679153Me? I'll never forgive George Lucas for insisting they kill Anakin Solo, aka the only cool Solo kid, because he thought his name would confuse dumb prequels fans
>>733679297If they wanted to have their muh subverted expectations they really should have written it as>jedi suck actually, they should just stay extinctand Ray turning on it.
>>733678403TFA cripples itself, it was doomed from the start.
>>733679297>What sucks is that it was so close to greatness where you have Rey actually take Kylo's hand The movies were so phenomenally bad by that point that nothing could have made them entertaining on their own merits. The moment boyega's gorilla face first popped up in that teaser trailer the sequels were never going to be anything more than accidental comedies.
>>733645215Bad writing.
>>733676887
>>733676887Prequels:>Darth Maul>Jango Fett>Count Dooku>General GrievousSequels:>Kylo Ren>General Phasma?>...>...
>the Filonilorian does an episode about a CIS loyalist causing problems in the New Republic era played by Doc Brown>he begins to monologue about how the Empire and New Republic aren't so different to a former member of the CIS>his monologue about planetary freedom from a galactic government is interrupted by the Femdalorian shooting and stunning him mid-sentence like a Marvel movie
>>733682298Who the fuck is General Plasma
>>733682403Boba Fett if she chrome
>>733682403Captain Phasma, sorry. You know, chrome Brienne of Tarth? She's thrown in the trash compactor in TFA, somehow survives Starkiller Base blowing up 5 minutes later then she jobs again in TLJ? Exactly
>>733645215>On one hand my waifu (which I've been very creepily obsessing over for 15 years or so already)>On the other hand complete strangers and a handful of acquaintances I mostly explicitely resent for a variety of legitimate and retarded grievancesEh honestly it looks pretty one sided to me. If you wanna call Anakin a retard there are far better reasons than this.Not to mention Darth Vader was actually a convinced believer in the empire as a system, so it's not like he saw it as betraying the galaxy.
>>733680243For me its Finn having an episode while watching his fellow troopers get gunned down then 5 minutes later, in the same day with a guy he just met no less, starts going “woohoo” when he blows up more troopers with a tie-fighter.
>>733683250He's whooping over massacring troopers who are kidnapped slaves just like him lmao
>>733645747Thank god she doesn't exist in any of the good Star Wars games.
>>733673430Game time started.
>>733678791I do feel bad for Finn's actor. He was a huge star wars fan as a child and was so excited to get to be in the movies and he's just a walking joke in all of them. He gets a couple of decent parts in the first one but is otherwise Rey's cheerleader, does absolutely nothing of consequence in the second, and goes back to being Rey's cheerleader in the third.Apparently he was really upset about the "they fly now" scene. He said it was ridiculous because they've always flown, there were even jetpack troopers in the clone wars, but they forced him to say the line so that Disney could sell flying storm trooper toys
Has there EVER been a piece of media more utterly fucking vindicated than the prequels? Movies come out who's prime directive is to address every single tomato ever thrown in the prequels' face and do exactly what the superior, enlightened moviegoers wanted, and the result is something to irredeemably horrid that it kills the entire franchise.How the fuck are any of the people who criticized the prequels and the legions of mindless that parroted them still able to look themselves in the mirror after this?
Vader, no!
>>733684073He waffles back and forth between blaming Disney for fucking his character and saying that the fans made Disney do it because of muh raycismsFuck him.
>>733684123>First spoken line of the Sequels is a direct attempt to dunk on the Prequels>the Sequels go on to faceplant and kill the franchiseRLMfags irrevocably btfo
>>733684169He should have kept the ship cloaked and waited behind scanner range.
>>733684123They just pretend it's not their fault. Hell RLM is the main source of all the prequel hate and could be considered directly responsible for the sequels but they still went "eh the sequels aren't THAT bad, better than the prequels still" probably cause it doesn't waste time with any boring explanations or politics and just says, the Empire's back and bigger than ever and so is the death star and Palpatine wooo!!!! Tie fighters and X wings ftw!!!!!
>>733645215For me it's Darth Bane
>>733684123>kills the entire franchise>>733684252>kill the franchiseWhat kind of delusion is this?
>>733684493BANE?
>>733684123It genuinely feels good to be a day 1 PT fan and to be vindicated this hard.If only Lucas did sell us out to make it happen.
>>733684598
>>733684598>the Sequels didn't kill the franchise u chudThey went from intending to release a Star Wars movie once a year to not having put out a movie in six years. They're finally about to put out a movie again, and it has a slashed budget and if it fails, reports are that it's over for Filoni's Ahsokaverse.They shivved the franchise. It's dead. Barely hanging on to life support if you really want to stretch for the rat.
>>733684864>reports are that it's over for Filoni's Ahsokaverse.Please God let this happen, it'll be so fucking funny. 18 years of trying to make that orange bitch a thing, just end it already.
>>733684864I'm sure they at least made some progress on that Starfighter movie, they might try to release that at leastI don't see this Mandolorian movie working at all. They seem to be banking all their hopes on people wanting to see Baby Yoda but that crowd has absolutely moved on. Grogu won't be able to carry it, not a chance.
>>733684864>>733684749Yeah that's pure hater delusion lolYou're trying to spin the film sequel to a multi season hit show as some kind of death knell. That's not even mentioning the other hit show or the latest round of the animated anthology.
>>733685073>Star Wars does so well under Disney their "one movie a year" plan changed to having no movies released in SEVEN YEARS and even normies making fun of shit like Book of Boba FettJust stop, it's embarrassing.
>>733685072Damn, they're remaking Waterworld?!
>>733685143Stop being a deranged hater and trying to pretend that every franchise that triggers you is failing while everyone else continues to buy their latest releases. It's embarrassing because you have to shamelessly keep changing your canned naysayer talking points while they keep making more content.
>>733684864MAG is going to bomb. Theres just no amount of moderate enthusiasm for it. Even that superbowl ad was just some AI generated trash. Kennedy may be gone but you dont need her to see Star Wars die some more, everyone else is inept.
>>733685272Sounds like projection to me.
>>733685143This scene could work if she was a Jedi or a species that had superstrength or reflexes but no. Just a human. Because that's all Disney Wars is, lame humans doing improbable things while all the cool characters stand off to the side.
>>733685143Sh-She's fast...!
>>733685354But anon, we're gonna get to see Zeb!!!
>>733685272Stop being a tranny.
>ruin this ruin that I think its time to accept facts that star wars was never good
>>733685489Holy fuck it's Glup Shitto
>>733685540Nah ANH was genuinely a great movie and ESB and ROTJ had their moments.
>>733685308I'm not the one who has memorized some esoteric shit about Disney having wanted to do a movie a year and all sorts of other talking points just so I can point to them changing their business model as a sign of some kind of impending collapse...while they continue to release a torrent of highly popular content in all sorts of formats.You have an actual mental illness lol
>>733685573>incredibly basic fact they repeated ad nauseam when the sequel trilogy was WIP>"memorized some esoteric shit"Still sounds like projection to me.
>>733685573>2015 - The Force Awakens>2016 - Rogue One>2017 - The Last Jedi>2018 - Solo>2019 - Rise of Skywalker>nothing since, just streaming shows whose numbers drop with every subsequent releaseEsoteric stuff. You have to a deep dive to figure this out.
>>733685724ThisI mean look at everything that's been announced, we truly are living in a golden era
>>733685724A media company's business plan from a decade ago is not something normal people care about, you have to be obsessed to give a shit which means you're either a fan or a deranged hater. You are emotionally invested in pushing the narrative that the franchise is failing because you're a triggered baby.
>>733685572>Nah ANH was genuinely a great movieOr was it...?
>>733685573>they continue to release a torrent of highly popular content in all sorts of formatsIs the torrent of highly popular content in the room with us now?
>>733645215I would kill you all with my bare hands if it would bring my dog back
>>733685920>You are emotionally investedStill sounds like heavy projection. Why seethe this hard, anone?
>>733685938Disregarded. Movie critics should be drowned in vats of diarrhea
>>733685920Why'd they change their business plan, anon?
>>733645215I'd do it for fun, the rest is just a bonus. The villain is also always right so I'd actually be the real hero doing so. The alternative is being a cuck.
>>733685981I feel your pain.
>>733685938The Mike Stoklasa of 1977, damn.
>>733661673thisborn in '01, best I could do is say I grew up watching Revenge of the Sith and exclusively because I had a pal who was a huge fan of it
>>733685996I have no clue, because I'm not a deranged hater obsessed with this shit
>>733685994I think movie critics used to be respectful back in the day. You had to actually get an education and generally know what you are talking about. They were serious adults, and their critiques were published in respectable outlets. Nowadays, "critics" (e-celebs) are just some retarded fat manchildren, whose only frame of reference is whatever slop they grew up with and capeshit. Internet gave the platform to uneducated, banal dipshits with enough charisma to attract even more retarded dipshits.
>>733685915I hope Sam Witwer can tard wrangle the Maul show.
>>733673349Holy based. Fuck snips and whole race. She is the worst character ever conceived.
>>733686151No clue at all why a giant corporation might do a 180 in their business plan? Maybe they were just making too much money so they decided to dial it back.
>>733675268
>>733685143Oh wow, it looks like they turned star wars into star trek here.
>>733685938>Star Wars BAD because it purposefully reinterprets ages old story tropes (hero's journey, mystical knights, dark lord, princess to rescue, whimsical sidekick) for a new generation>in fact complains about the story being subservient to the special effects the same way people like RLM did 30 years later for the prequels>starts randomly fellating John Carter to show the reader just how well educated he is>Alex Guinness GOOD because OLD>misses the point of the Force and its Buddhist, Daoist, and Zen philosophies inspiration>"Luke for George Lucas, Skywalker for his Icarus complex">"Ben from the Hebrew ben to make him sound biblical and good, Kenobi from cannabis"lmfao what the fuck is this. Wonder how John Simon felt looking back a decade later?
>>733673750honestly I can't. Three years just feels ridiculously short for what the Clone Wars are supposed to be. Granted, we only have human, Earth-based warfare to compare it to but would it've hurt George to add a few more years? Hell, I'd have taken 6, which is the same length as World War II.
>>733686374Since I'm not a fan or a hater, the only thing I know about Star Wars is that they keep making hit shows that everyone talks about when they come out, thus why I hear about them despite having zero interest in the franchise. Delusional losers are trying to tell me that franchise is dead when I still just keep hearing about it nonstop. I go to see my anime movies at the theater and there it's advertised more than whatever 4 seats sold showing into which I'm walking.
>>733686198Reminder that disney owns rlm, and them trashing the prequels and star wars was part of a conscious effort to get george to give up and sell.
>>733645215.....meh the Jedi were asses with bullshit morals and to be fair the Galactic Republic *was* pretty shitty at the time so maybe Sheev could've fixed it (He did manage to give regular people jobs after shutting down clone production).
>>733675268I have way too much nostalgia attachment to the Anakin hilt.I have a ForceFX of it.
>>733687004I want to love the Anakin lightsaber hilt because of nostalgia but I can't. The big black rubber grips at the bottom are clunky and awful. Anakin makes terrible lightsabers.
>>733685938Lucas grew up with John Simons all around him and Star Wars was conceived and designed as a direct rebellion against that cynicism and lack of imagination.
Enough is enough! I've had it with this sith on this senate!
>>733674402>beginning of the movie Anakin is reluctant to kill Dooku because it was against the jedi way>Anakin is made a member of the jedi council but isn't made a master, something that has never been done before>the council has Anakin illegally spy on the chancellor which is against the jedi way>the jedi tried to extra judiciously assassinate the chancellorThe jedi talk a lot about "muh balance" when their definition of "balance" is complete and total one sided domination. Meanwhile Palpatine's belief is that in order to fully understand the force you need to know all aspects of it not just the view of the jedi. Anakin was right when he said "from my point of view the jedi are evil." Everything they have done in RotS was going against the jedi way in order to secure power for themselves, all in the name of "balance."
>>733688702It's worth mentioning that when Anakin is assigned to clandestinely inform on the Chancellor of the Republic, he declares to Obi-Wan that it is treason. Obi-Wan counters that they are loyal to the Republic not the Chancellor. Anakin then says that using him to spy on the Chancellor violates the Jedi Code. Obi-Wan is unable to counter this and merely says that the Council is asking Anakin to do it.Ergo, it very much was a violation of the Jedi Code to send Anakin to spy on the head of state.
>>733684260ok but what if he kept the ship cloaked and waited behind scanner range. or ship cloaked and waited behind scanner range
>>733688702What is weird is that, by George's standpoint, you'd be wrong. He's made it clear that the Sith is not balance, that the galaxy would be infinitely better off without the Dark Side, and yet it was without that opponent that the Republic grew stagnant. It was only through evil's existence that the Republic was burned down and eventually a better New Republic could flourish from its ashes
>>733688975The Sith are an evil cancer on the Force but the Jedi by the time of the Prequels weren't in line with what the Force wanted from them either. Per Qui-Gon Jinn, the Force has agency and a will. It could have dropped Anakin into a woman on Coruscant where he would have been inducted into the Jedi as a child. Instead it arranged for Anakin to enter the Order as an older child where his life before the Jedi would cause friction with the prevailing Jedi dogma. The Jedi failed to adapt and train Anakin, and they all died, eventually leaving an opening for Anakin's son to build a new Order more in line with what the Force wanted. At least until the Mouse decided Luke Skywalker sucks as much as the Prequels Jedi.
>>733688975George is retarded though. He didn’t see the problem with “only a sith deals in absolutes” because he was too busy trying to “own” bush jr (and somehow making Mr. “dont misunderestimate me” look good and smart in comparison.
>>733689134>eventually leaving an opening for Anakin's son to build a new Order more in line with what the Force wantedExcept Luke rebuilt the jedi order exactly as it once was and then gave up.
>>733688975>eventually a better New Republic could flourish from its ash-ACK!
>>733687908based>>733689475lol
>>733689437George made Obi-Wan and Yoda into incorrigible failures in his OT. If Luke Skywalker listened to either of them and killed Darth Vader, the galaxy would have been permanently doomed. It's not like he portrays Obi-Wan as infallible. Maybe he knew exactly what he was doing with "only a Sith deals in absolutes"
>>733689475I don’t care what the mouse says is canon or not.That said, why the fuck did they ever think that giving Grandma Tarkin’s concubine absolute power over their government was a good idea?
>>733689470Actually Luke banged the evil out of a sexy redhead and had a loving family and a kickass Jedi Order where you didn't have to starve yourself of the human experience in order to not turn evil.
>>733689548No. George himself thinks in absolutes. He *hates* gray. You either are with him or against him. You must be Jedi if you are good. You must be Sith if you are bad.I still don’t understand what he meant by “heroes on both sides, evil is everywhere!” Except that Palpatine is controlling both sides so evil *is* everywhere.
>>733654510Can do you one better. Sometimes the pussy is just that good I guess.
>>733645524>alien race's traits>no eyes and massive DSL bravo lucas
>>733689853>Twi'leks - space strippers, every single one of them>Neimoidians - cowards, good at math, use robots, speak with a Japanese accent>Toydarians - greedy, immune to mind tricks, speak like an Israeli contractorThe man was a world building visionary.
>>733645524I love my wife.
>>733689542if the entire series could be redone as one consistent narrative start to finish then this kind of theming would be KOTOR levels of radical
>>733675853Lehon being in the unknown regions is fucking retarded and undermines the whole galaxy map. All ships, weapons, armor and droids are made in the star forge which is closer to Coruscant than Korriban but Korriban is the heart of the empire. So the ships and material just teleport to Korriban??
>>733661673>Zoomers were born in like 2008That's the tail end of the generation.Gen Z is typically defined as born between 1997 and 2012.Mind you, still too late for tpm, it was millennials who grew up with the prequels.
maybe if that female was instead an alien that was from a race of femboys that never experience twink death
>>733690256i love twi'lekswould have an entire harem of them
>>733691387>blue lekku transforms into a handHow horrifying.
>>733645215Do those other things give you pussy?
>>733691449it was so closean anon made it for me and i normally hate ai sloppa
>>733675114No mapped outed routes, which is a massive risk because not having the right coordinates can send you into a sun. Also several attempts failed for various reasons.
>>733668604>Phantom Menace that highI kneel Jarjar enjoyer.
Why did rescuing Luke redeem Vader? I mean Anakin has the blood of more than just Younglings on his hands, countless Jedi, the people of Aldaran, all those officers he murdered just because he was miffed.
>>733686210He's starring in it so he likely will. Man is one of the biggest Star Wars nerds out there.
>>733676304>fascistAmazing how this word has been bastardized
>>733691719Redeemed to who, the galaxy? They would have executed Anakin as a war criminal if his redemptive act didn't kill him before they could. To the Force? The Force doesn't care about those things, it cares that Anakin's heart is now calm and no longer filled with rage, so he is allowed into Space Heaven.
>>733691910While fascist is typically thrown out to mean "mean thing with rules I don't like", isn't the Galactic Empire meant to be an authoritarian state that controls all aspects of society and production?
>>733691719I guess to show he was still capable of doing good things?
>>733677603>becomes darth nihilus
>>733692349fanonwould've been cool though
>>733692129>isn't the Galactic Empire meant to be an authoritarian state that controls all aspects of society and productionThat still just makes it authoritarian rather than fascist. Authoritarianism by itself is not enough.Keep in mind, before fascist started to be thrown out to mean "mean thing with rules I don't like", it was thrown out to mean "strong government not aligned with us", which is no more accurate and no less biased.
>>733692628national socialism or are you just saying it's a buzzword?
>>733691910The only people who complain about this are fascist trash that can't handle being labeled as the evil scum they are.
>>733692774agreedfree palestine!
>>733684123>Has there EVER been a piece of media more utterly fucking vindicated than the prequels?No. The sequels being shit doesn't change the fact that the prequels were still BAD movies. And no amount of contrarianism and fellating some turkey necked boomer will ever change that.
>>733693278cope, seethe, and dilate
>>733692861Palpatine sounds oddly similar to palestine hmm
>>733693647From the river to the sea, Sheev Palpatine will be free!
>>733693647spielberg's influence, i'm sure
>>733692715Fascism isn't quite a buzzword, but its use outside of historiography might as well be, because in effect by Mussolini's description fascism is pure pragmatism single mindedly applied to making the state (which embodies all of society) stronger.In practice this means there's no modelling it and it has no value as a term of comparison. It applies to actual fascist Italy just as much as it does to any realpolitik focused state.In respect to the empire, many EU works explicitely set out to describe Palpatine's politics aligning to magnifying his own power, both political and metaphysical, at the cost of the empire's strength. Like operation cinder and all the internal conflicts he engendered for fun.
>>733692628>characterized by dictatorial power, centralized autocracy, militarism, and forcible suppression of oppositionidk bro sounds like the empire to me.
>>733693702So really Machiavellianism?
>>733645276She's got turkey neck.Ya sure you want that?..
>>733693745Well, no, but I'm going to bed so I'll say close enough instead.
>>733693917you are a good anoni give you headpats and shake your hand
I don't think fascism or authoritarianism sounds so bad as long as the dictator is someone I agree with and thus someone I feel has the best interests of society in mind.Democracy is kinda gay.
>>733694702based
>>733686210>>733685915You people are such fucking cancer
>>733689475>Those planets were so important they didn't even bother to tell us what their names were in the movieAnyone who defends disney or jar jar abrams is truly a retarded faggot
>>733652974According to the novelization, Anakin was sleep deprived and in the middle of a mental breakdown.
>>733695109>Those planets were so important they didn't even bother to tell us what their names were in the movieThis sort of nitpicking is the dumbest take of all
>>733695065forgive themall they've had to live their whole lives on is shit
>>733695426Nothing is stopping them from going back and watching the Prequels and Genndy Wars like a respectable human being.
Why am i supposed to hate kinoquels (prequels)?
>>733654793This scene is peak female character writing.
>>733686210He's unfortunately under Filoni's thumb if he wants to keep his job.He's gone on record saying that Filoni has said that Star Wars - as a story - is supposed to be like this game of telephone you play around a campfire where everything is a different every time like an urban legend.This is, of course, the cope Filoni uses so he doesn't have to give a shit about continuity or have to be creative at all, but Witwer agrees with him.
>>733645215There is no inherent value or meaning to any living thing beyond the personal connections that form between them. It's why your parent dying is utterly devastating, but hearing about 100k people dying on another continent on the news is a 10 minute distraction while you eat breakfast.
>>733695876What about when I see a webm of a negro abusing an animal and seethe really hard about it?
>>733672964Why was the versus mode so fun?
>>733654793
>>733645215Even if nothing had happened with Padme some other shit would have just set him down that path anyway, it was only a matter of time.
>>733645215You've never known someone with oneitis?
Why did Dooku do a giant somersault over the railing when walking down the stairs would have saved more energy
>>733697618aura farming obsession a chronic issue with darksiders
>>733697661That's what caused Anakin to lose to Obi Wan
>>733697724Given that he just needed to focus and have a higher angled jump, yeahhttps://youtu.be/4EtCGR2M_oU
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>>733694702best case scenario is 3-4 decades of peace and prosperity until the benevolent dictator dies and then an incompetent/corrupt lieutenant has all the power, and none of the benevolence.
>>733691935>They would have executed Anakin as a war criminal if his redemptive act didn't kill him before they couldThis is why I don't get why people want that cancelled search for ben solo movieIf he didn't die at the end of TRoS he would've been lynched anyways. Not by any government because I don't think there is one post TRoS, but people are not gonna let mega hitler walk away just cause his girlfriend vouches for him
>>733645747Ok I vill kill ze younglings now
>>733665986>cold, pragmatic fascism over the course of a long, grueling war that saw many friends and comrades chewed up and spit out by the galactic meatgrinder.This is one of the biggest flaws people rarely talk about. They all talk about the wooden acting, bad dialogue, bad cgi, jar jar, etcBut not how little effect the clone wars seems to have. The opening text of Revenge says the republic is crumbling but we see no evidence of that. Coruscant literally just got invaded and should be on fire but everything is spotless.
>>733694702The issue with authoritharism is that its self-defeating. Nobody can be competent enough to professionally understand and improve every facet of society. Even if you could be mostly good, people like you are so exceedingly rare that you're left with only bad options:a) Control everything nonetheless: when you die you get replaced by less competent person who'll start fucking shit upb) Hand out power to people with narrower but deeper expertise. You're no longer authoritarianist.
>>733672964nah this game is heavily carried by nostalgiaI replayed for the first time since I was a kid, and while okay, it was short as fuck, and wasn't as good as I remember
>>733699943>short as fuckIts a movie tie in game. Those were all short as fuck (and usually terrible)
>>733674671He wanted to become more powerful in the force. The Jedi would've expelled him form the order for having a waifu, so from his point of view, saving the most evil guy in the galaxy was his only option.
>>733667665These people passed the entrance exam that Wesley, the Mary Sue genius, failed on his first attempt.
>>733700226Didn’t they already know Anakin was fucking Padme. I got that feeling when Obi Wan is like “oh no, I don’t know where to even look for him!” and Yoda just gives a look as tells him to stop and think about it for a second and he was like “oh shit, yeah, I’ll go ask his wife.”Also, isnt her apartment his mailing address?
>>733667658Look into Maker Studios (who they work for).
>>733700450>Disney has this grand plan to break George's spirit so he'll sell Star Wars>Works like a charm>Disney fucks up making the sequels and now Star Wars is worthlessI guess it's true that evil can only destroy, not create
>>733684412Sorry, you guys keep using this term. Who the fuck is RLM?
>>733645215>Revenge of the Sith > Clone Wars > shit > OG trilogy and the first 2 prequel movies
>>733701739Red Letter Media, an organization of movie reviewers. One of the reviewers, Plinkett, made a very harsh review on the prequels back around 2009. It was extremely influential and, while prequel hate definitely existed prior, this one man's review made many people turn on the prequels and declare their hatred for it.It wasn't that big a deal when all this video did was just make a bunch of geeks start whining about the prequels, but its that negative opinion of the PT that caused Disney to just open up the sequels with ripping off the precious OT and doomed the entire new trilogy.A big thing is that Plinkett hated the politics of the prequels, so nothing is explained in the sequels. Rather than facing the question of how the New Republic would handle the Imperial Remnant and the struggles of building up a new galactic government, that's all swept under the rug.
>>733685915>Rian Johnson's trilogy KINOOOOOOOO
>>733646731Anakin isn't supposed to be reflecting the wider Republic views, he has the view that most teenagers have when they first encounter politics. Republic views are made clear in TPM and AOTC, it's already a sunsetting republic where everything is bloated with in-office politics and endless bureaucracy.
>>733671973>poorly writtenwhat a way to out yourself as a faggot
>>733645536Where are the yummy AI videos of this?
>>733702546I see. Explains why everyone seemed to change their minds about the movies and started shitting on them even when they like them previously around that time.It's so weird to me people will just adopt the opinions of another wholesale.Like if I like something, and someone criticizes it, I'll take that criticism on board, but that in no way detracts from me liking the thing. I don't understand why people will do a complete 180 on something because someone else dislikes it.
>>733661549>I bet you support the idea of Obi-Wan talking about their adventures together rather than actually seeing them.
>>733645215If the universe is a gay as current timeline of sucking cock of jews, why yes. Oh wait jews are the ancient evil themselves.
>>733645215Retard, the sith very blatantly warps your mind in a similar manner to say Chaos from Warhammer.Every single sith user gradually goes from 0 to 50% over a period of many years, then on the precipice of that coin flip they either break free from the thoughts and emotions that are turning them to the dark side, or they give in and go straight from 50 to 100% sith where they remain until the day they die except for rare occurrences. Even Dooku was an evil bastard despite emotionally remaining calm. His deeds were indeed pure 100% evil warped mind sith.
>>733645215>why?pointless question because anakin clearly wasn't thinking when he fell to the dark side and thats by design because the dark side tends to make people act like irrational psychosthe dude chokes his wife for god sakes he's clearly an irrational retard
>>733703470girls like that though
>>733668084
Defend this scene.I fucking dare you.
>>733677703He could've killed sheev anytime and remained evil. Sacrificing himself to save his son (and daughter) is the redemption.
>um, disney sequels totally didn't nuclear holocaust the star wars ip, you're just a haterPeak mental illness contrarianism.
>>733704248To be brutally honest, there wasn't much else they could doSnoke is dead. Hux is just a laughing stock and Kylo really isn't that intimidating either. After the First Order faced tons of humiliating defeats, the only way to make the enemies actually seem threatening again would be to asspull an actual cool villain and a bunch of new ships.The First Order never really gets a win and that's a big problem for them. Rey beats Kylo in TFA, the whole disaster with chasing the Resistance in TLJ, culminating in the First Order losing to a goddamn ghost of Luke. Hell unlike Anakin or Luke, Rey never gets maimed.They're pathetic through and through and I get this is probably to make the Nazi faction seem uncool, but you gotta give them a win here and there.
>>733704248it's meta-kino. oscar doesn't even look like he's acting.
>>733704248Star Wars is for kids who cares Lol
One way I've heard the Prequels described is "Religious order finds their Messiah, through their own dogmatic hubris hands him directly to Satan."Funniest thing is, there was already a Jedi on the council with not just one wife but five.Ki-Adi-Mundi got to use flamethrowers and lay pipe, why shouldn't anyone else?
>>733704865>Funniest thing is, there was already a Jedi on the council with not just one wife but five.>Ki-Adi-Mundi got to use flamethrowers and lay pipe, why shouldn't anyone else?How can the viewer know this?
>>733704907Watch the clone wars show.
>>733705000But I didn't, so how could I know this watching the movies? I hate SW lore nerds.
For me, it was Plo Koon.
>>733685938>kenobi probably from cannabis i.e. hashish, for reasons you can guesswhat are the reasons?
>>733705836Heh, you know...
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>>733645215Yes, because fuck the order fuck the galaxy top tier Naboo pussy is 100x more important.
>>733704907>Anakin, we will grant you the right to have Padme but not to marry her>You must not grow emotional attachment to her so only if you build large enough harem to have no feelings to any of them you can achieve this
>>733645578>Has thousands of hours of training as a Jedi.>Kills a bunch of children at the slightest possibility he can change *a dream*.
>>733703612>"le force is le female">means that dark side is also female
>>733645215Because the bad guys look cool asf. I don't wanna run around like some hobo in robes
>>733704681>Snoke is deadProbably one of the dumbest things they did was killing him off. It happened in the second movie, right?Sure he's basically another Palpatine figure but it's still better than bringing Palpatine back for fucks sake.God I hope the new game they announced recently set in the Old Republic times doesn't suck dick. Its supposed to be an action RPG from what I understand.
>>733645276This desu
If my wife was young Natalie Portman hell yeah I would
>>733645215CIN DRALLIG MAINS WHERE WE AT?>holds square in you're path
>>733645276Her in Leon the Professional....
>>733706510>Instead of facing his punishment or hiding out somewhere, he doubles down and becomes a mass murderer.
>>733707715They should all just wake up from a dream. More Anakin would be godly.
>>733707024the idea set-up in TLJ was making Kylo Ren the main villain of the last film but I guess Disney or JJ didn't want to have a villain that has his own arc, or they wanted to redeem him because he has female fans
>>733689542I still hate how shit they made Luke. Hell even Mark Hamill said during an interview before the movie to not get your hopes up.
>>733691719His desire to possess those he loved for fear of losing them is what led him down the dark side. It's only when he let's go of his need for possessing his son and selflessly trades his life for Luke's that Anakin finally thinks and acts like a Jedi.
>>733707142Do you speak bocce?
>>733707946Hamill doing a 180 because he's peak shitlib and "the wrong people" hated the movie, and "the right people" liked it, is so fucking funny. I don't care about politics in Hollywood, if I did I'd have lost my minds by now, but disingenuous shit like that always makes me sick
natalie portman was pristine cunny
>>733695065>>733695426You sound mad.>>733695617>Genndy WarsEvery time.
>>733695819The actual context of that: Sam Witwer was narrating the old EU Darth Maul book, Shadow Hunter, I think? And there was something that did not align with what they did later in George's Clone Wars and such, and Witwer wanted to actively change it as he was narrating the book. Filoni told him not to, and narrate the book as it was originally written, giving the justification for why the stories are different. It's no different from Lucas's own view of Legends. Remember, he was going to use Darth Talon in his sequels, and she was going to be old Darth Maul's apprentice a few years after Return of the Jedi, which completely destroys everything about post-Endor EU continuity and destroys Legacy in particular, where Talon originated, who had nothing to do with Darth Maul and existed centuries after the movies. But that's because Lucas never viewed it as a real story, only a well of ideas. Of course, you will never mention this. Because leaving out context is crucial to spreading rage baits.
>>733708362>Sam Witwer was narrating the old EU Darth Maul book, Shadow HunterI listened to that audiobook. Pretty kino to get actual Darth Maul narrating a Darth Maul adventure.
>>733708460Sam Witwer is such a legend
