More info are coming from industry leakers regarding Bluepoint shutdowm>Demon's Souls Remake barely made budget, selling slightly above 1.8M copies lifetime salesThis checks out, in the Insomniac leak it was 1.4M>When Bluepoint and Sony were in talks for the acquisition they already proposed to Sony the idea of working on their own game, and pitched a life service God of War. Bluepoint (its leads) loved the first God of War (2018).>Sony accepted and Bluepoint would start by working as support studio for Santa Monica on GoW Ragnarok>After 4-5 years Bluepoint apparently presented what they had been working on (their Gaas GoW game) and, under the new company policy post-Concord to approve only high quality live service games, so the project was canned.>At that point Bluepoint was given a full year (2025 to 2026) to present various pitches. 2 of those were also live service game, another was a remake of a series (likely GoW, since one of the sources mentioned some of those projects were offloaded to other studios)
>>733650371Bluepoints aesthetics when there's an original to work from are already awful, I can't even begin to image how garbage anything they make for themselves must look.
>>733650371>industry leakerswhen they start off with public information sony has always reported in the IR pdfs, you just know the rest of the info will be hallucinated schizobabble. and its a common tactic they use to gain credibility. there is no universe where bluepoint would be the one who'd have pitched some live service garbage to snoy.
>>733650736Source is Bluepoint employees
>>733650796ok, source?
>>733650736>there is no universe where bluepoint would be the one who'd have pitched some live service garbageDo you think publishers go around telling devs what to do? Is it as simple as that? No, developers 90% of the time propose a pitch
>>733650371>bluepoint shut downbased fuck remakes
>>733650978>Do you think publishers go around telling devs what to doyes this is common sense. the ones with the money dictate what the developers will do. why do you think every snoy studio is doing live service shit now?
>>733651117>yesWrong
>>733651134>cant provide sources for anything>uses baseless claims e.g. "developers 90% of the time propose a pitch"well you're no worth engaging with. enjoy your page 10 faggot. just entertaining the idea of a japanese studio wanting to do a live service of a snoy product is peak comedy. we all know how it went down when square enix tried it multiple times.
>>733651117Wrong. Devs make pitches. >why is it all live service tho?Devs know they will get greenlit if they pitch them
>>733651117>hey dev make me a gameWhat?>i'll pay money, make me a gameOkay, what kind>the one that makes lots of moneyWhat?>yes, a game that makes a lot of money. make that, i'll payWhat?
>>733650371>Demon's Souls Remake barely made budget, selling slightly above 1.8M copies lifetime salesShould've released the PC port.And we KNOW they were working on it from that old Nvidia leak
>>733650978>Do you think publishers go around telling devs what to do? Yes>developers 90% of the time propose a pitchAnd who decides if the pitch goes ahead with funding? Publishers. It's like developers are being told or something
>>733650371Funny how everytime Sony fucks up or kills a studio, we get hitpiece reports how its definitely not their fault lolTheir strategy is retarded besides, announce GOW remakes and kill the studio you hired that is known for remakes due to Jim Ryans retarded GaaS addiction
>>733651284You are retarded, you can't tell what a pitch is.
>>733651302>>733651293Zero evidence that Sony forces or accepts only live service pitches.Playstation is getting more single player than live service gamesBluepoint wanted to make a live service because that makes money TO THEM, as royalties, just like Arkane and Remedy wanted their live service
>>7336503711) why didnt they re-release the Demon's Souls remake on PC, they couldve made a profit2) did Bluepoint actually fucking propose the GaaS shit?
>>733651503>Their strategy is retarded besides, announce GOW remakes and kill the studio you hired that is known for remakesOr maybe they checked their pitch for a GoW remake and it sucked and Sony realized they aren't talented to pull it off
>>7336516261) because it wouldn't make enough moneyDemon's Souls sold like shit on PS5, why port that over Horizon Forbidden West?2) yes
>>733651325No point in porting a flop
>>733651325I'll never get why they never bothered to port it. I think it would have done gangbusters on PC and Sony has released multiple titles from that leak since then.
>>733651887A modded Demon's Souls remake would be amazing.>>733651931Right?
>>733651887How much money do you think a modern port costs? This isn't like porting a PS3 game to Xbox. It's practically free money now.
>>733650371>Demon's Souls Remake barely made budget, selling slightly above 1.8M copies lifetime salesIt would've sold twice as many copies on Steam.
Moral of the story: Make real games, not GaaS and not demakes.
>>733650371its obvious that the Demon Souls demake sold like shit since it became available on the playstation ps plus catalog not long after its release.
>>733651467>YesNah>And who decides if the pitch goes ahead with funding?This is irrelevantBluepoint didn't pitch a Bloodborne remakeThey pitched a live service, and they received green light. There was no evil Sony higher up telling them to do live service or shitcanning any other project
>>733651503>Their strategy is retarded besides, announce GOW remakes and kill the studio you hired that is known for remakesWhat if Bluepoint never wanted to do more remakes in the first place and the fact that they are still making GoW trilogy is actual confirmation that wanting to make live service slop is entirely on Bluepoint?
>>733650371It's fucking crazy that they spent so much money on that remake that selling 1.8 million copies was barely enough to break even.
>SteamJews ITT acting like they would've purchased a copy and not pirate itlmfaooooooooooo and you've spent this whole time talking about how 'shit it looked' and now you're saying it wouldve sold millions on PC???kekarooooo
>>733650371and nothing of value was lost
>>7336517621) because soul games sell shitloads on PC2) and here i thought Sony was forcing them to do that shit
>>733650371I'm not reading that. Just port OG and Demake DeS to PC.
>>733653429soulslikes sell well on PChttps://steamdb.info/app/570940/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/335300/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/236430/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/211420/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/374320/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/814380/charts/https://steamdb.info/app/1245620/charts/
>>733651626>why didnt they re-release the Demon's Souls remake on PCOut of spite. Sony hates PC gaming.
>>733650371>Demon's Souls Remake barely made budget, selling slightly above 1.8M copies lifetime salesBB exceeded expectations when it hit 2m copies, how much could the BP remake of DeS have cost?
>>733650371>make a dogshit remaster of mgs>make a dogshit remaster of sotc>make a dogshit remake of sotc>make a dogshit remake of DeS>somehow manage to gaslight normalfags into thinking you are the "master of remasters">your hubris grows so much that you think you can make your own games, while all you have ever done is rape the games of far superior developers like a parasite>fail miserably and get shut downThank you God.Thank you God.Thank you God.I love you God.I love you God.I love you God.Bluepoint shutting down is the greatest justice that ever happened in the history of the gaming industry.Rest in piss and shit.
Why does anyone give a fuck about that company, all they did was remake other people's games
>>733654291>>733653307the reason is as we already know, western developers spend way more money on useless shit such as fake job positions which contribute nothing to the game. meanwhile japs are fully efficient and set on their goals. besides that, Fromsoft used their own assets and animations from previous games where as bluepoint had to make their own (copying Fromsoft while doing a shit job at it)
