>break away from AAA constraints and form a multi-talent supergroup >secure investment from Tencent to create a game that's still indie but has the production to compete with the big players >focus development on strong gamefeel and meticulous balance with a quality standard unmatched in the industry >the reaction? >"lol it's concord 2"You deserve nothing but slop.
shut up bitch.webm
>>733659504It was just the basics of every modern shooter mashed into one game with nothing that made it stand out from them
>>733659504>betrayalto betray someone you have to be on board with them in the first place which nobody was
>>733659504/v/ is just a few hundred poorfags and pirates who wouldnt buy it anyway. imagine thinking this shithole has anything to do with this flopping
>break away from AAA constraints to make the most boring AAA garbage imaginablewow epic!!!!!
>>733659948it's free
YO BUY THIS AXE SKIN FOR TWENTY BUCKSWE INDIE NOW
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints and form a multi-talent supergroup >secure investment from Tencent to create a game that's still indie but has the production to compete with the big players >focus development on strong gamefeel and meticulous balance with a quality standard unmatched in the industry >Make concord 2
>>733659948The game was free, retard
Blasts were had
Tummy
>>733659504If they were a small indie team, they wouldn't just make shitty Apex.
>>733659504>built on trustYeah, the investors deserve it
>small indie tencent game
>>733659504I too also watched that Bricky video.
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>secure investment from Tencent>still indiePick two of these.
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>secure investment from TencentSo they decided to get away from AAA studios by... immediately jumping into bed with one of the worst AAA studios? Brilliant plan, I wonder why it didn't work out.
>the market is saturated with hero shooters>concord was a 400 million dollar loss>what should we do?>hero shooterMasterful gambit
>>733662087OP said options 2 and 3.
it was derivative realm royal+apex+marvel rivalssorry but they need something ground breaking the way BRs redefined shooters years ago
>>733662450it was amusing how they were acting like it was groundbreaking when it was just a hodgepodge of random features lifted from better games
Call me crazy but it was E33's fault.A lot of people watched the game awards to see if E33 will win all of the awards and when they did started winning all those awards, people went nuts thinking gaming (or single player gaming) is back. Then at the very end of the awards, you see a god damn live service game yet again. All those people who viewed the Highguard trailer isn't shooter fan, multiplayer fans or competitive fan. It was single player/casual fans. And Geoff gave them a pinata for them to endlessly beat up.
Game isn’t dead yet. Player counts in console are presumably much much higher than Steam charts. Servers are still up and running without problems despite people claiming it would be down after a week. Website is back up and running. Highguard will recover its Steam player base once updates start to come out and will get to around 400k concurrent players. You can deny this all you want but it is the truth. People celebrating the demise are making a fool of themselves.
>"strong gamefeel and meticulous balance" Wrong on both accounts.The game was free and over 100k people tried it and most found it lacking. If you bet your fucking house on your live service game being an instant billion dollar success then you're going to lose your house. It's not a gamble worth taking if you lack the resources to actually support it and need to hope it takes off to be able to do anything later on.
>>733665745Majority of the reviewers didn't have the achievement for completing a single match. Being F2P just makes the system easier to abuse.
The problem is the market is saturated and players aren't interested in another gaas to main.Theres a niche where players want compelling stories and challenging gameplay, so I would suggest to fill that niche.
>>733659504>Crsates the most goyslop game ever>"Erm, chudiggaphobecel, you deserve only slop for not playing this!"You are trans and a gentile
>>733662715There's a stupid number of "shooter fan, multiplayer fans or competitive fan." The Tencent staff that paid for that ad assumed everyone watching would be at least one of those. It doesn't matter that someone is a shooter fan. They probably won't be a Highguard fan.
>>733659504>break away from AAA>make a AAA live service game anyway"From the developers of" is a red flag.
Just make a good game.
>>733659504This is bait
>>733659504>literally makes Concord 2>mad that everybody noticed and nobody bought ityou suck, your game sucks, you have no talent and need to go away and let someone else who knows how to build a good game like Silksong or Mewgenics take over
>>733670024No, no, you don't get it. They worked on it allegedly which means they are entitled to YOUR money. Now buy the eighteen dollar horse armor chud, you gotta do your part to keep the economy running.
>>733659504Deadclock is releasing soon.
>>733659504I don't fucking get it. We already have had a perfect template for online multiplayer games pre-release strategy. It was fucking Tribes Ascend, it's like a rosetta stone for what to do in order to build a community leading up to release. Hi Rez fucked it up after launch. But the preamble to Ascend is undoubtedly the single BEST example of doing everything right leading to release. Have playtests, have open betas, get the community involved, have pre-release tournaments, start building an actual reputation so that when the game is released it actually has fans.These fuckwits spent like 5 years on this game, and built NO community before launch, they were going to shadow drop it as a "ITS UP GO PLAY IT RIGHT NOW!" thing. With ZERO fucking leg work done to actually build a community of any kind. 5 years and they didn't do ANYTHING to build this shit up.
>>733660768something seems off about her proportions. short legs? wide midsection? hard to put my finger on it.
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints and form a multi-talent supergroup
>>733670853Yeah, torso/legs proportions are bit off, legs too shortArtist is a woman so i guess she was fighting the patriarchy and male gaze there
>>733671409I'm not artist but I understand that longer legs on female characters is just standard when going for "heroic" proportions. Also headsize being used as the metric for general proportions, bayonetta going one head smaller for extra-heroic and mass effect andromeda going one head bigger for..some retarded reason that I never understood. Crazy that a non-artist like me can understand these concepts and yet a "professional" artist that likely got paid close to 6 figures still made that concept art.
>>733660768tranny coded
>>733659504>3v3 hero shooter with Apex gunplay and miningIt's really nothing special. It doesn't suck ass like some people are claiming, but it's not some industry gamechanger that was tragically overlooked. It's an unexceptional f2p game in an already crowded market.
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>do exactly the type of souless corpo slop a big studio would have wanted them to makeWhat was the point?
>>733659504>game was always shit.>but tencent gave them ten cents so we can all blame China now.So predictable.
>>733659504defending concord 2 lmao cringe
>>733659504>we’ve made a game with a vast arena Ok, so it’s a big team game?>nope, 3v3Ok, so it’s fast paced and you jump straight into the action?>nope, you’ve got to do busywork before you get started Tell me you at least have a good fight after the busywork?>it’s objective basedAh, so attackers and defenders will constantly be clashing? Finally somethi->nope, both sides have to attack and defendSo either one person is always getting ganged up on or both teams run past each other?>yesThat’s fucking retarded>yes
>>733671648The most reasonable explanation I've heard is that it makes it easier to mocap stuff if the characters have "normal" proportions. But when they change shit randomly mid-series, it makes it feel like everyone turned into a gnome between entries.
>>733659504Here let me break it down for your dumb ass>they made a game that doesn't appeal to me>I don't play it
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints and form a multi-talent supergroupCreates the most typical AAA-every-decision-has-to-be-approved-by-non-gamers-in-suits-for-maximum-reach-and-profit-looking-ass game. What was the fucking point?
>>733659504The betrayal was them not disclosing the Tencent funding.
>>733659504>make shit slop concord 2>"lol it's concord 2"Ftfy, flip those burgers wagie.
>>733660020Yikes.
>>733675228this but also 5 maps and only 1 single game modeSeriously, what the fuck were they doing for 4 years?
>break away from AAA constraints>make AAA competitive esports bait game #1674547what causes devs to keep doing this? It's insanity
>>733665276All the shitposting and endless mocking of this game has managed to make it a make it a high profile game that everyone has at least heard of and knows about. That hasn't translated to player numbers though. Maybe it could recover somehow but a free to play game already struggling to maintain 1000 players daily just isn't gonna be a viable product without something major happening to bring players back.
>>733679067They were Apex developers who saw the game making billions and thought "It's not fair we only earn a salary instead of getting to keep ALL the money"!There was no creative vision for the project beyond "we want our own live-service game".You can take the developer out of EA but you can't take the EA out of the developer.
>>733679067Answered your own question, anon.
>>733659504They literally made the mode sanitised GAS shooter sloppa ever, indicernable from something an AAA studio would churn out. I mean I know your post is shitty bait but still felt like pointing it out, if Highguard was actually good the review bombing wouldn't have impacted it much, tons of games went through that and still did well like Sea of Thieves for example
>>733659504>tencent>indie
>>733670835Admittedly the current release was supposed to be their "beta" and their plan was to adapt to player feedback. They only said that after the game already got shat on however, since people rightfully assumed this was it
>make slop of which there is an oversupply and no discernible lack of supply>people don't buy it and talk shit about said slop no one wants>BETRAYALstop making shit games no one wants lel
I didn't mean to say supply twice. My brain is fucked
>>733659948>The 'y-your just poor' anon's genuinely don't even know what they're talking aboutImagine my shock
>>733680452it's f2p and people did try it on release, it had like 100k concurrent. There was just nothing there good enough to hook people away long term from the crap they were already playingwhich is like the #1 thing you have to do when you are trying to break into the genre. Doesn't matter how heckin competent of a shooter it is when it has glaring flaws like the maps being gigantic for 3v3, people just uninstalled it after a few matches and went back to their main games
>>733674959And ironically, being dull and middling is sometimes far worse than being outright terrible.
>>733665745no he's actually right about that. it does have really solid gunplay and feeling of movement. supposedly the balance is autistically good too. everything else is just a boring mish mash.
>>733659504the game was so obviously flawed from the start that they had multiple emergency patches, like 4 in less than 2 weeks. im shocked they even shipped it in the buggy and boring state it started in. it deserved to lose all its players if they thought the base product was at all acceptable.
>>733662715it's the devs fault for making a bad gamethey got a fuckton of people to play their gamethe game just wasn't good enough for anyone to keep playingnothing more to it
>>733671409You did not just fucking post widowmaker as an example of "correct" proportionsOverwatch women have WAY longer legs than what would be proportionally accurateIt's stylized the same way bayonetta is but that doesn't mean every female character needs to have legs for days to be attractive
I'm conflicted about this game. The CTF phase of the game is so unique and entertaining that it makes me wonder why they barely bothered to put any mechanics in the game to bolster it. Most of the effort put into this game is around the looting, the gunplay, and the raids which are all worse than the 1 flag ctf phase. The marketing was also such a cope. They say they wanted to shadow drop it and blame vga for the bad press, but you took the faustian bargain. The fact that no one suggested getting a marketing team to run ahead of the bad press and actually show off what the game was like just shows how unserious the creators were. No one knew what the game or genre even was until it dropped and then the devs cried that it was just impossible to advertise after the fact.The setting is boring and bland. Fantasy, multiracialism but everyone is human, magic but all the guns are just guns, bases are just bog standard fantasy that barely relate to their elemental character (hells mouth to slade for example). I think the biggest problem was obvious and every player pointed it out. There is too much god damn waiting and inaction in this game. 1 minute base prep, 2 minutes of looting, 1 minute until the shield breaker spawns. You are doing basically nothing for 4 minutes straight at match start. Its even worse during the raids though (which also take 1/2 minute to start) because if you get killed you have to wait 20 fucking seconds to get back into the action only to most likely die in a 1v2/3 and wait another 20 seconds. There is just too much waiting and nothing happening in this game. God forbid you die during looting phase and you do nothing for 20 seconds during the do nothing phase and then ride your horse through nothing to do nothing until the shield breaker spawns. The doing nothing was what really killed the game, not the performance issues or dei or whatever. Its something no amount of updates or dripfeed can fix.
it's nowhere near as bad mechanically as concord but the attempt to lift ideas from so many other games results in >>733675228 so everyone dropped it pretty quickly whereas concord never got anybody in the first place because they couldn't even get fucking movement right. Utterly ridiculous that journos were running damage control for that game claiming it was a good shooter
>>733686058Ugh... THIS. Widowmaker is NOT realistic at all. Honestly she's pretty gross and I thought we'd all moved past that era and become better men. I guess not.
To imply betrayal means it needed to have a connection or relationshipI did nothing literally
>>733659504>make a hero shooter>I have no interest in another hero shooter>do nothing>"You deserve slop"Who is actively looking for a new hero shooter? What's the audience?
>>733686401You should be shot you retarded mouthbreathing ape
>>733659504Nigger the game had 100k concurrent on steam, the game got traction and people played it, the game just sucked so nobody stayed.
>>733686595Be better.
>>733686627Overwatch heroes do start to look bad once you actually notice how freakishly long their legs are
>>733665276nah its cooked. they released a ton of content and patches and even two new game modes right before firing 80% of the on board workers at wild light. content will be incredibly slow and almost entirely commissioned from now on. they rapid fired whatever content they had on hand to try and bring gamers back on steam and it only got them about 400 more concurrent players
>>733659504DEAD SERVERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHTTTTTDOING NOTHING GONNA WATCH THE DEVS CRYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6LNi-SBlxUVRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>733686208the do nothing was so bad that every patch either increased lobby size, reduced the timers, or forced players to interact at the objective with masterwork weapons. its crazy that tf2 2 decades ago figured out how to do segmented spawning and reducing spawn times if most of your team is already dead, but this game almost forces you to conveyor belt deaths because of the long static death timers. multiple reviews told them to just reduce the respawn timers when you have dead teammates to make spawning together easier but they INCREASED spawn times in 5v5 to like 25 seconds.
>>733659504>BetrayalI don't recall making any oaths to these faggots, and I don't care their slop crashed and burned.Now what?
>>733659504>>focus development on strong gamefeel and meticulous balance with a quality standard unmatched in the industryIs that why you spend half the match picking up armor and hitting e on rocks?
>>733659504>Tencent>strong gamefeel>meticulous balanceHighguard is to hero shooters what Drawn Together is to Captain N.
>>7336627152 million people tried the game and about 2 million of those never started it a 2nd time. It's like losing 493903:0 in a football match and then trying to blame the color of your jersey for giving you a psychological disadvantage.
>>733659504Your game is shit, fuck off and accept it flopped.
The only thing between them and success was the lack of hot women and anime tits, and that's totally on them for not picking up the current gaming climate.
>>733686401
>>733659504lol it's concord 2
>>733670853>>733671409yeah shes about 8 and a half heads tall and the limbs look wrong
>>733659504>spend 10 minutes collecting rocks to get rolled in a team fight because one player on your team didn't collect enough rocksShit game
>>733659504>focus development on strong gamefeel and meticulous balance with a quality standard unmatched in the industryNice fluff sentence faggot you forgot your "visceral"
>>733659504I know OP is shitposting but Highguard turning out to be an AAA attempt at infiltrating the indie space while still doing all of the soulless AAA shit because they just can't help themselves was so fucking funny in retrospect.
>>733659504>secure investment from Tencent to create a game that's still indieAnybody that thinks like this deserves to be put in the ground alongside the french fried fuckers that made Expedition 33 and people who claim it is indie
Excellent bait thread. I appreciate the adherence to the core principles. I do wanna say that the game mode for highguard is so unbelievably poorly thought out it's hard to believe it was ever playtested. Needed more tribes, less minecraft.
>>733680441What an absolutely retarded gamble. Im surprised they havent called eos yet.
>>733691506it's still sort of alive on console so they are holding on for dear life
>>733691756I've heard the PC version has ridiculous security measures that kept a lot of people from even installing and trying it.
>>733692498You need to go into BIOS and activate secure boot. It's not the only one, apparently Valorant for example also required it. And pressing f12 during bootup alone is too much for most people
>>733692498it requires secure boot and TPM, i.e windows 11 is mandatory
>>733659504This used be bait.
>>733692708idgaf about secure boot but i am never ever doing TPM 2.0 i.e Microshart's backdoor for even more ridiculous telemetry and spying
>>733662556no it wasn't having 99 players on the same match for an fps was unheard of
>>733659504>Still indie>TencentKys
>>733659504Saw a recent Youtube video, huh?
>>733662450a new game doesn't need to be innovative or create a new genre to make money. that's retarded. it just needs to be well thought out and well executed.
It's not looking good fellow HiggersWere we jumpin to if it gets shut down?
>produce some sorta 3v3 overwatch game????Theres a reason all the other games are 5+
>>733692708Regular people mostly have that thing on by default. >>733693113That's not something you "do" it's something your CPU has or has not. Tech illiterate retard. >>733692498You too.
>>733693737needs to at least improve on whatever people complain aboutin existing games
Getting a lot of Welcome...to Highguard vibes from this Highguard thread.
>>733659504>Not a souless mega corporation>Funded by tencent to make a microtransaction filled hero shooter that spends most of the game left clicking rocks
>>733662450>Battle royale was groundbreaking and innovative This is what zoomers actually think lol
>>733662450>>733694557This tells you the mindset of the average alphoomoid. They think hunger games ahhh battle royale really redefined shooters LMFAO
>>733694494>shooting the rocks instead of harvesting themno wonder you found this game so hard
we were kings
>>733659504>hero shooter in 2026>made by devs that refuse to pay attention to changing trends in multiplayer games>funded by tencent>surprised when tencent closes studio for underperforming>blame the very people that didn't want to play the game in the first placeTragic, truly.
>>733659504>strong gamefeel and meticulous balance with a quality standard unmatched in the industry
>>733659504Yeah man, I decided to watch Bricky's video too.His rant about how HIGHGUARD DESERVED A CHANCE, GAMERS ARE JUST TRYING TO DESTROY EVERYTHING BEFORE THEY EVEN GET THE GAME went on far too long as was pretty cringy.Then he goes on to say that they were correct in their prediction that the game was not that good, but they shouldn't have shat on them anyway? Oh but 5v5 is good, so that's another way they fucked up.Baffling, really.
>>733694593>bro how could it possibly redefine shooters lmao>unity asset flip the game and a horde-shooter-builder hastily remade managed to make all the money in the world and even forced cawadooty to make a cloneit does you no good being willfully delusional about the state of the industry and the part BRs playedunless you want to be an UHM TECHNICALLY moron and claim that they are the same by ultimately remaining shooters, but then unreal and halo and modern warfare have also had no influenced on the genre by that metricyou fucking retard
>>733694494Why would they even layoff everyone so quickly? Was the year of content already done and they didn't need them, or what?
>>733659504Even besides the dei roster the game looked boring another fucking battle royal and its a huge map with 4v4 It should have been single player as I think high fantasy with guns is cool
>>733660891Yeah, they would’ve made yet another faux-retro shooter like the other indieshits.
>>733694125Apex or The Finals. Maybe Siege. Basically any of the games this one took shit from.
>>733695334100000 people gave it a chance
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>make exactly the same slop that AAA corpos doGenius plan
>>733695595IIRC he was ranting and raving about the 0.2 hours played negative reviews
>>733659504>break away from triple A restraints>recieve 100 million from FUCKING TENCENT>create a boring, poorly thought out, and same live service hero shooter>include the same predatory monetization >get astroturfed by the biggest triple A cock cobbler>gamers still fed up so they dont fall for itYou can delete your Twitter account all you want, but from one autist to another you, and everyone who believed in this game, are more retarded than I could ever be.
>>733694125Marathon!>3v3>asthetics that look like someone puked in it
I played herThe game was fun
>>733659584fpbp/thread
>>733659504They should have known better. Safe corporate hero shooters are a bloated genre. Literally only Valve can get away with making a new hero shooter in 2026
>game touts itself as indie>funded by tencentHonestly this coming out on top of them putting ONE person on character design and making the same person focusing HARD on trying to monetize the game just shows that this game deserved it failure >"Being the only character concept for the project and managing mtx was a huge challenge for me. Most of these characters were designed from beggining to an end in 2-3 weeks max. One week for exploration and ref gathering, second week for concept refinement and another extra in case there's props and attitude sheets to do. Within these weeks, I had to take time from the character to lead the mtx team, so in reality, time was spread thin. Luckily, there was a clear vision for Onyx from the beggining!"imagine trying to make a game that makes or breaks your studio and you assign the fucking character designer 2-3 weeks MAX to come up with a finalized design and backstory while telling them that they also have to lead an entire other group of people
>>733698565honestly good for her, character designs are one of the things people complain about the least
this game only confirmed to me that all western developers deserve deaths because when they get the opportunity and funding to create without AAA corporate ties they will still create something that looks like it was aborted out of the anus of EA.
>>733689035you dont want realistic height for characters.
>>733686058kys
>>733695595more. about a million at least.it was just 100k at a time which is an insane number.
>>733659504>built on trust>have secret investors
>break away from AAA constraints >secure investment from Tencent Yeah, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about or what these terms actually mean.
>>733659504lol. cry harder. we don't like slop with woketard aesthetics. normies just don't like slop in general, sometimes.eat dust.
>>733696184Why would someone continue to play a game they hate?
>>733670835This is exactly what Valve is doing with Deadlock right now, and its one of the most played games on steam atm without even an official release.Everybody else just cuts every fucking corner they can and assumes they will be rich overnight. They are fucking LAZY. If you look lazy next to fucking VALVE you never had a chance
>>733686208The matches would be way more fun if they just started with the CTF phase immediately instead of the boring 2 min segments where basically nothing happens. Just spawn the objective as soon as the match starts and let players go straight for it and maybe try for loot along the way. Make obtaining gear much more of a risk reward scenario ehere you have to choose between getting the objective or powerups instead of having time for both. It still needs more players in match too. 8vs8 would be about right,teams of 5 still feel too small
>>733700265Predictions on when it will hit sub 100 people playing?
>>733691506Its a gamble they believed would work because it was the exact same thing they with Apex to success
Unsure why the devs made a large map and then filled it with absolutely nothing, clearly the game was not meant to be a 3v3 by the end project, you can't justify having large maps if it doesn't mean large scale battles, only way you get those is by having more players fight each other in a match.Game could have done with some fantasy monsters roaming the map and leveling your heroes from monster kills which would unlock additional perks for more customization throughout the match.I think they had no idea what they were doing and just decided to copy things from other games, mash it into an all-in-one, but didn't make it any better than what they copied nor did they try to take it and make it their own uniqueThe only thing I enjoyed about this game was the base raiding/defending but the ending of the match should have included a bit of capture the flag by taking the enemies anchor stone back to your base after destroying the A/B generators for a little bit more varietyOverall a terrible launch and terrible attempt at releasing something nobody asked for
>>733659948It's free. It's a game people won't play for free.
>>733659504>multi-talent supergroup
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>secure investment from Tencent to create a game that's still indie>Tencent investment >that's still indieNigga what?
>>733659504>strong gamefeelStrong feeling of uninstalling more like, have you completed the mandatory tutorial? shit can tranquilize a horse by itself
>>733659504A hundred thousand people tried it on steam and decided they didn't like it. Cry more.
Madness?THIS. IS. HIGHGUARD!
All they had to do was cut the looting and make it 8v8Are people even that much in love with looting?
>>733659504>Unreal engine live service slop funded by massive backers>Literally had a years worth of skins made already before launch>"Indie"Kill yourself
>>733702369Looting was terrible, it took less time and RNG to slap crystals with a hammer and buy the item you wanted from the trader than to run around opening shit you weren't going to takeThere are only 3 tiers of looting and they had to include improved versions of weapons at POI in order for there to be more engagement at those locations but the improved versions of the weapons were so insignificant that I noticed most players just ignored it
have they considered making a cool looking posterboy?
>>733702369Supposedly people talked to the devs and the game was originally intended to be 8v8 but the gradually lowered it to 3v3 because of the retarded biased playtesters they had.This also explains the giant map size because they didn't make them smaller after lowering the player counts.
>>733662715>thinking gaming is back>because of an astroturfed French tv show that occasionally has you push a buttonThere has never been a good post made by someone using an anime picture
WAAAAARDEEEENSWE MUST BE BETTER MASCULINE FOLX
>>733659504I did that and I'll do it again.
>>733686058Yes dummy I posted this as an example of appealing character design, not the generic Loomis 7,5 heads tall abomination that doesnt look attractive DId u seriously somehow interpret this as me posting an anatomically correct human example lmao, what kind of a stupid motherfucker you got to be anon, pls try harder
just realized i haven't seen a single gameplay video of highguard, even concord had multiple oc webms floating around during its short lifespan
>>733659504This but unironically
nobody caresit's that simple
>>733659584
>>733702253299 now
>>733659948Fucking retard
>>733659504> You don't like slop? You DESERVE slop
>>733700265>>733702253STOP THE COUNT!
>>733659504>break away from AAA constraints>literally every facet of the game, from character design to gameplay to music to menus to game modes, are all lifted from other AAA games>theyre also all done to the quality of AAA games aka badlyplease kill yourself tonight
>>733704289STOP IT! Just s-stop...
>>733659504shut up dude, shit
