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on what support should I play the first disgaea?
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>>733665590
IIRC the remaster has a tendency to crash at random points, save often
Appreciate the flonne, respect the flonne
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The original sprites have a better aesthetic but i think the remasters have better QoL?
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>>733665938
for original sprites should I go with ps2 emulator, DS, or psp on vita?
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>>733666065
ps2 or psp is probably the best choice
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>>733666065
PSP has the most bang for your buck, only missing Pleinair as a playable character as she was added to the DS version.
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alright thanks will try to get the psp
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>>733666859
Beautiful
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>>733665590
>mfw 3 was the only one not ported
Is there a technical reason?
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>>733667027
Some speculate its due to Mao's VA that makes NISA not want to touch it with a ten foot pole.
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>>733665590
PC
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>>733667027
Raspberyl too erotic
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>>733667212
Qrd?
Also best way to emulate it?
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>>733667752
Vic got a bunch of accusations thrown at him and it ruined his VA career.
As far as the best way to play, the vita version. I have no idea how or even if that has an emulator though.
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ENEMY
INSIDE OF ME
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>>733667752
His English VA is Vic Mignogna. All the dub industry people were super on his case over everything he did because they apparently didn't like him for being an outspoken Christian. He wouldn't sign a yaoi drawing because it was smutty fan art, so he asked them if he could sign something else. That got blown up into him being homophobic. He liked to hug all the cute girls at cons. And that got blown up into him being a rapist.
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>>733668572
>He wouldn't sign a yaoi drawing because it was smutty fan art
Didn't he voice the lead in a hugely popular (at the time) shoujo anime? He must've been getting bombarded with yaoi shit. Also Full Metal Alchemist.
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>>733668831
I think it was literally porn. He probably didn't care at all that it was yaoi.
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>>733667212
Fuck NISA has to do with NIS being retards?
>>733667752
Vita works just fine.
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>>733667212
>NISA is too greedy to just recast the role for a port
Yeah, that checks out.
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>>733669223
NISA are the ones that port the games to PC. Granted N1 could just make their own console port but they too don't seem interested for whatever reason.
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>>733667027
the technical reason is disgaea 3 fucking sucks
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>>733667027
It sucks.
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>>733666065
>>733666152
Never play the original console releases to the Disgea games and many of Nippon Ichi Sortware games. Whenever they port these games they tend to add a lot of extras, extra story, QoL features, bug fixes, DLCs being free ingame. Just tons of features that original console releases obsolete. They actually put effort in there ports or used to at least.

>>733667752
>Also best way to emulate it?
Vita emulation probably.
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>>733671852
>in there
their*
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>>733666065
There's a native PC version.
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>>733669959
>>733669965
Why the hate?
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I really enjoyed how in old NISA games you'd always be excited for the post game to see what cameos and returning characters would show up. DLC really killed what was one of my favorite things about their games. Moving to 3D models killed the rest of my enthusiasm for their games.
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>>733672313
Just had a poor story and cast with a few stand outs. Gameplay was pretty much the same and probably closer to D4 since it was the game that introduced geo cubes. The vita port did alleviate some of the bad points and would have hated that game too if I played the original PS3 version.
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>>733665590
a real ps2 on cathodic
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>>733674208
the story is good at first, it just fumbles in the end with the whole twist that just doesn't fit the rest of the school theme
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>>733665590
PS2
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it's Disgaea 2 20th birthday btw. nobody cared.
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>>733668831
Ouran wasn't particularly gay. It was just a reverse harem where all the characters were gay for the tomboy. Except the twins who slept in the same bed for some reason. That was extremely strange.

Also, who watches that shit dubbed.
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>>733665590
>the kerning on top
dar es
awak en
gr eat

Fuck this shit. Play on PSP, OP.
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>>733674208
>3
>poor story and cast
I share a board with that kind of poster, disgusting.
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>>733665590
Why does the game from this franchise that came out in 2018 look like a NES game? Why would anyone play this garbage
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>>733675007
Also I'm trans
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>>733675036
videogames?
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>>733666065
>>733672098
>There's a native PC version.
And it does an original sprites mode.
The only thing it doesn't have is a mode with the updated sprites from the Switch version.
(But there's a mod if you care about updated sprites, see https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2968972819)
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>>733665590
Is there a Disgea that doesn't have XP only be given to the unit that gave the coup-de-grace?
I like supports and this kind of XP system always it an absolutely fucking excruciating chore since you end up spending 99% of your time carefully setting up last hits for characters inept for last-hitting.
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>>733674208
Weird that 3 gets a bad rap for its writing when 4 is twice as bad and 5 isn't that far off either
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>>733666065
PS2 has the original Etna voice, which is way fucking better.
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>>733674993
This is the same board that jerks off the sardine vampire, so that comes as no surprise.
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>>733665590
PC like god intended. Or handheld
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>>733671852
Best on Vita huh? Neat, there aren't too many of those.
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>>733675376
I miss old Succubus.
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>>733675201
Disgaea 6 pools all the XP and then awards it to every active participant, but it's widely considered the black sheep of the series. D7 carried over some of its good ideas, but reverted the XP mechanics back to awarding it for killing/healing/buffing.
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>>733675201
Yeah this series has always been bad about training multiple units at once. They do try to add some kind of exp share system starting with D3 and up but it always has retarded limitations like only a small handful of units can share exp and its things like exp share only or mana share only etc. so they can only be set to either and not gaining both. Its real dumb. There's also a feature called "magic change" which helps a bit but still has limitations. This series just hates the idea of you trying multiple units at once.

This is the 1 series that desperately needs a big modding support.
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>>733675201
anon one of the core mechanics of the series after D1 allows you to share xp with ease.
The real sin was how heals didn't give xp.
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The original looks like shit and its hard to go back after the jump to HD sprites. You idiots saying there is some charm to the original are full of shit and running on nostalgia. Play the remaster for the story because its the only Disgaea game where the characters and plot aren't full retard.
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>>733671852
There is no need to play 3.
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>>733676157
Well good thing there's 2 version of D1 to play so everyone can have their cake and eat it and have sex with it.
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Which Disgaea is the most fun and rewarding one? which one justifies dumping hundreds of hours of my life?
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>>733676479
There's an argument to be made for most of the games to be "the best" but most will say either D1, D4, or D5.
D1
>best story but least content
>esoteric mechanics like master/mentor system, do some reading up first
>PS2/PSP/PC are lacking QoL, while Complete on Switch/PS4 backports the newer features but tosses out the original visual style, pic related
D4/5
>way more content but characters and story are worse
>has all the amenities
D7
>midpoint between D1 and D5, less content due to starting over with 3D models but the story and characters are better
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>>733677831
I pirated 7 and then completely forgot about it, what are the gimmicks this time around, and is it fun
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>>733667212
Square reused the PSP dub for the Star Ocean Remake and Vic Mionga was the voice of Claude.
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>>733665590
>on what support
Huh? English, motherfucker, do you even?
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For me it's Disgaea 4. Yes, I also love sardines.
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>>733677943
Jumbofication, you make a single member of your team huge to punch large sections of normal enemies or get into a fist fight with other large foes. Its alright as a gimmick.
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>>733677943
main gimmick is giga nigga mode
>gain infinite range 5x5 attack
>apply a weather effect dictated by your class
>is it fun
I liked it but it is a step back from D5. Also fuck NISA for locking D7C to switch.
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>>733674208
>had a poor story and cast
kys you tasteless niggerspawn a billion years as a prinny wouldn't be enough of a punishment for your post.
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>>733669959
>>733669965
I really liked D3. Played all Disgaea games back to back, and 3 and 1 were my favourite at that time. 2 was also good. Went into 4 and didn't finish it up to this day. Haven't touched any of the later ones since I wanted to play chronologically, but I guess it doesn't matter anymore. I have 5 on ps4 still unopened.

Also, the Prinny spinoffs are really good until you get to the final bosses and get carpal tunnel
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>>733678695
Prinny 2 is such a great game but not having at least a auto attack option is just too cruel. I don't think I could finish it these days. Almost ruined the psp square button because of this game.
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>>733676157
I played through the PC version and it's fine and I like the old sprites. The port is a piece of shit but can be fixed with some tweaking.
The real problem is that the original has some awfully tedious mechanics you have to wade through if you are going for post game completion. Having to manually go through every single enemy power up/down bill is tedious as all shit, same with having to redo the rank up exams every time you want to reincarnate, having to watch slow ass walk animations and geo panels exploding even with animations turned off etc.
Complete fixes most of these annoyances and just reintroduces a lot of the design fixes that 2 had like support skills giving exp, increasing the cap of statisticians to 900 up from 300 and letting you double kill item bosses. So regardless of which sprites you prefer you probably should still just play the remaster because it's way less tedious to play.
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is this as good as mewgenics?
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>>733665590
If you're playing on steam, grab the content mod.
Adds basically all the story-exclusive bosses as recruitable after their relevant encounter, adds Asagi available whenever, and Pleinair on any NG+, since she isn't in the steam version by default.
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>>733678947
I recently decided to replay prinny 1 on hell's finest and my hands where genuinely fucked afterwards, had to not touch a controller for a couple days to recover.
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>>733667752
>Qrd?
Long story short
Got accused of sexual assault back when that was big, most evidence points to "no, hugging a fan that asked to be hugged is not sexual assault", nonetheless a bunch of other VAs refuse to work with him on a project, and his name & prior work are a bit smelly for companies to touch. NISA would either piss people off reusing his voice, which could have knock-on effects for contracts down the line (say, someone refuses to sign for their voice to be reused again, now they have another game they can't port) or else have to redub him (they're too broke for this). So, between that, and Disgaea 3 being considered a weak entry anyways, better to just not bother.
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>>733678134
It's somewhat interesting, because it's consistent enough that you can both build around particular jumbo effects, and build specific units as your go-to Jumbo. It's less restrictive and obnoxious than Magichange (and unlike Magichange which just fucks monsters, Monsters are actually some of the best Jumbo units), and more reliable than Overloads (and not locked to story characters). It has some fringe applications for map mobility, too.
It's more significant and balanced than fusion. I forget whatever the fuck 6 had.
Probably the best gimmick, even if 7 as a whole is kinda mediocre.
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>>733667027
The real reason is that 3 (and D2) just didn't sell well to warrant porting them to modern systems.
3 flopped because it was a ps3 title that looked like a fucking ps1 title, and then the enhanced version was a vita title THAT CRASHES IF YOU TRY TO PLAY IT ON A PSTV, so nobody played that version either.
D2 flopped because it launched literally months before the ps4 came out and the localization was so fucked it was melting ps3s so everyone just stayed the fuck away from that game. (On top of people generally just hating how it retroactively ruined the story of the first game)
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>>733675201
I forget from when, but at some point they started giving %to level exp for healing and support spells so they don't get shafted. It's actually one of the better ways to grind sometimes. I believe this feature was added to Disgaea 1 complete, and it's literally the best way to grind units that start getting into the thousands.
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>>733678695
>until you get to the final bosses and get carpal tunnel
PPSSPP has a macro button and for that I am truly grateful. I'm old enough I could genuinely cripple myself trying to beat this legit
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>>733675987
Disgaea 6 is weird because the auto battle idle autism is genuinely well made and fun to mess around with, but the game just lacks content and polish due to the move to 3d models.
Disgaea 7 then feels like a compromise of old and new. It doesn't really satisfy the direction that either 5 or 6 where trying to achieve.
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>>733679846
>I forget whatever the fuck 6 had.
I don't think 6 had anything. It was completely lacking in all fronts, with its gimmick just being having inflated numbers that make it hard to read.
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>Buy Vita
>Dont play any JRPGs
I am not sure why I did it
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>>733680458
>D7 keeps the AI battling but restricts it to replaying stages (presumably for grinding, although it's better to set things up so you can max out your level in one fight) and a side mode that no one likes
>Doesn't let you use it in the Item World, which is the only place where the more complicated settings would be useful
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>>733683929
>although it's better to set things up so you can max out your level in one fight
still makes your grind a lot faster, particularly for class mastery
>auto-clear, max class
>back to menu, swap class
>repeat
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>>733683929
The item world in 7 is a broken mess to begin with. They really need to stop experimenting with it and go back to the way it was as all their attempts to fix it have only made it more tedious.
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>>733679978
D2's story is also absolute utter dogshit holy fuck, rarely do I regret playing a game
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>>733666859
faster!
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>>733688490
D2 is the best game in the series, hands down.
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>>733690184
He is referring to Disgaea Dimensions 2
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>>733692012
Of course. Ultimate sequel to the original with the original cast back again.
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>>733667212
I'm starting to agree on that speculation. They went from porting the games to the PC in order then in 2015 or 2016, back when the #metoo movement and gamer gate got big, started porting the game backwards from 5. Then once 4 got ported, they moved on to spinoffs like Phantom Kingdom, La Pucelle Ragnarok, the prinny games, ZHP, remaking D1 again. Basically everything but D3 in the span of 10 years. All they have left is DD2 and D3, and guess which one will probably get the port first.

They really are trying to sweep this under the rug.
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>>733674390
I don't think i ever played to the plot twist. How is trying to kill your Father because he accidently stepped on a gaming console a good story. Even for demons that's retarded.
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this thread is a good exemple of chatgpt tertiaries pretending to have edgy opinions by saying "grammatically correct utter nonsense". Really sad.
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>>733665590
For me, it's DS with Prinny commentary
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>>733668572
>dub
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>>733667027
i only read this isnt there a plot point about the overlord getting his psp stepped on in the vita version is a vita too i believe
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based



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