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>is simultaneously a masterpiece and a shit Resident Evil game
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>>733675528
You can tell they ran out of ideas after killing all the Bakers
>Quick, just add a bunch of black mold monsters and uhhh a boat section
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By the time I got to the shit with the bees I was just waiting for it to be over
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>>733675835
They were probably asked to come up with something to tie it into RE/Umbrella canon and that's the best they could do
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>>733675528
It's a game about slowly walking through a house full of zombies. It's the most Resident Evil a VR game can be.
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is good until you get to the boat. first time in the basement is great
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>>733675835
I kinda like the boat section, but the mine stinks.
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the first half is one of the best video games i've ever played.
the second half is one of the worst video games i've ever played.
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what we they thinking giving the player a choice here? for what purpose?
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>>733679407
>pick the cute short haired southern girl that helps you over the ugly girlfriend that tries to kill you
>game punishes you by giving you the bad ending
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RE7 is overrated dog shit

Having played RE0 and 7 back to back for my first time (0 on hard and 7 on normal because you have to unlock Madhouse first), I am absolutely shocked 7 is as loved as it is, when 0 was a much better paced game and just overall more inventive with some actually difficult puzzles (though I really don't understand the logic behind the animal lighter one and it's legitimately the only part of the game I'd say I didn't like trying to figure out). RE7 is literally and unironically for people too pussy to play Outlast 1 and 2 because "I'm murrican and need guns to feel badass and to make up for my tiny penis!"

Jack disappears way too soon and didn't really act like a stalker on my playthrough because I was too busy solving puzzles avoiding him (which to compliment Demake 2, Mr. X at least felt like when he had a bead on me, he was following me), then you get that embarrassing "YOU WANNA PLAY A GAME???" SAW shit. Margie was my favorite boss (but not segment because the shack and bugs were boring), but only because she was a clear rip from [REC], one of my favorite horror movies.

>Save Zoe because I figure she can make more of the cure to help Mia
>Zoe completely disappears from the narrative and Mia is still super important

???

Why did this retarded game even ask me to make a choice?
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>>733679853
0 sucks ass. It peaks in the first 20 fucking minutes on the train and then is only downhill for the entire rest of the game. I wish I could have back the time I spent on it.
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>>733681136
Mad because bad.
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>>733675835
Basically this
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If you weren't there to experience the teasers, the leaks, and the demo leading up the game finally being released, you don't get to comment on its legacy. RE7 singlehandedly revived the franchise and that's all that truly matters looking back on it today.
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>>733683332
You're acting like it's a game that came out on Xbox or PS2. RE7 only exists because of Outlast and it's so obvious. Alien Isolation brutally mogs it. Only retards that make YouTube essays think it saved the franchise by doing anything notable or original, which it didn't.
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4 (original), 7, and 8 are the only good RE games.
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Is failing to understand why Ethan would obviously choose Mia over Zoe a sign of autism?
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>>733683749
Then don't make it a choice, retard, because it's worse than 'you made the wrong choice', the game feels half finished. (Which it is)

7fags are so embarrassing.
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>>733675528
Senile execs and uncs game devs have this specific problem where they refused to move on from the past and start something new to preserve their players and sales; so instead of making an entirely new IP in their studio, with different game design, theme and nuances, characters, etc, they put them under the same IP banner that they build 'back in the hey day' with the same restrain, same connection with old franchise, but with a slight, different modification along the way
Re7 and 8 could be a better games had they were a standalone horror game with no connection to resident evil.
RPG assassin creed (origins, odyssey, valhalla) could be a better games had they were some mythological rpg IP and not tied with asscreed.
Same thing goes with films where they endlessly making sequels, prequels, and remake instead of just making a brand new film. Boomers are the reason why younguns are suffering to this day
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>>733679853
0 came out around the time of 3 and Code Veronica, so that style felt massively played out and people wanted innovation. 7 came oug after 6, so the same people were desperate for something slower and more like a horror movie. That's why 7 is liked and 0 isn't.
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I would not even describe the game as a resident evil game.
Its just an outlast clone by capcom.

The saddest thing is how people keep parroting that it SAVED THE SERIES and is the best game in the series.
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it feels less like a game and more like a horror movie
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>>733675528
You're half right in that it's a shit RE game. It's barely a fucking video game.
>but it's so scary!
That's nice. It's a terrible video game.
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>>733683332
>RE7 singlehandedly revived the franchise and that's all that truly matters looking back on it today.
You shitskin zoomers are retarded.
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>>733675528
It's neither of those things, It's just a 6/10 horror game.
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>>733679853
>RE7 is overrated dog shit
thread settled
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>>733679853
trvke. for all its faults, at least RE0 didn't put me to sleep like 7 and 8.
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>>733684914
>and people wanted innovation

People were so stupid back then because now we still get yearly franchise games (COD, Madden) and games that last forever (Fortnite, Minecraft, etc), but now we get less interesting games. People didn't know how good we had it back then when they're complaining about fucking RE0.
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>nooo it didn't revive the franchise

This game was a direct response to the critic failure that RE6 was. It improved Capcom's morale, gave them the engine and groundwork for the remakes you're still getting today
And this anon is right >>733683332 if you weren't there you don't really get to have an opinion on it
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>>733689431
>>if you weren't there you don't really get to have an opinion on it
>Game released in 2017

Shut the fuck up, zoomie.
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I feel this game was trying too hard. It's edgy to the point of excess.
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>>733689641
I don't know about 'edgy'. What would you say is the edgiest thing it does? I think that Jack moment maybe? It's clear the devs must've played or saw a let's play of Outlast and got obsessed with redoing this scene with their own take.

If Outlast were truly edgy for example, you'd be the perpetrator, but being the victim to horror kind of prevents that.
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A fucking pocket knife?
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>>733675528
One thing that's utterly bizarre is how RE 7 and 8 have absolutely no feedback on shooting whatsoever. The weapon sounds are quiet and pitiful too. It's like they just slapped the whole shooting thing on top.
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>>733675528
This game is fantastic, they really saved the day after pt was cancelled with this.
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Beat 7 last week. It sucks, Mia is annoying, and Eveline is ugly.
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>>733681378
No, anon is right. RE0 is complete shit, just like Code Veronica.
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>>733690192
>RE0 is complete shit, just like Code Veronica.

Oh so you hate easily the two hardest RE games. (Which is the only reason people don't like these ones outside of story)
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>>733689431
>nooo it didn't revive the franchise
Correct. Retarded zoomer mutts that grew up watching streamers and who like to pretend RE6 didn't make money or that the RE engine stands for Resident Evil don't get to change reality. 6 and 7 were both shit but both sold a bunch.
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>>733675528
it was a great experience in VR
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>>733675835
>Add a bunch of black mold monsters
Brother they're all the same monsters you fought already in the bakers basement. The second half of the game is ass
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>>733690310
And reminder that the people that complain about RE6 just want to beat a game in 2 hours just so they can talk about it and have no interest in actually playing games.
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Drive by question
I want to drag my sibling through 6. Is it local co-op or does he need to be on a separate computer?
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>>733675528
The garage fight is not only one of the best fights in the game, I unironically think it's one of the greatest boss fights in the history of video gaming.
The idea of using a car in an enclosed garage breaks so many conventions, fits so well into the one sided nature of the fight forcing Ethan to improvise against a super mutant, it's isn't glowing bright or covered in yellow tape, you the player get to just figure it out in the moment of desperation, the experience of awkwardly backing up into the wall and ramming into Jack over and over again is incredible, and then the iron beams, and then you think it's over and he comes back, and the fire, jack doing donuts.
It's just chef's kiss. The closest thing to a grind house exploitation film being captured in a video game.
It really is a masterpiece for this alone.
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>>733690543
https://fusionfix.io/wfp#re

It's split screen on PC but it's cropped. Get this RE6 fusion fix that fixes that. He also did one for Revelations 2.
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>>733675835
The game starts falling apart after Main House/Jack segment anyway
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>>733690543
>>733690651
Also RE6 has a mandatory single player prologue opening
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>>733690651
>>733690698
>>733690543
The prologue isn't too long but it IMO sets a bad tone for an otherwise good spin off game (as I consider 5 to be the conclusion to the series and everything else is fan fiction)
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>>733690641
>I unironically think it's one of the greatest boss fights in the history of video gaming.
You're mentally ill. Mechanically, it's boring as fuck. You're wowed by shallow setpiece spectacle.
>The closest thing to a grind house exploitation film being captured in a video game.
Figures it's a moviegamefag praising it.
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>>733689940
TRAAAAGERRRR
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>>733691286
>You

Oh (you) just need a little attention. Very understandable.
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>>733690263
CV is easy as fuck tho.
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>>733691459
Code Veronica has a couple of notorious softlock spots and that's more than I can say about most other RE games
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>>733689205
I think the double whammy of Code Veronica and RE3 made people tired of that formula. God forbid someone played Gun Survivor.
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>>733679853
>RE7 is overrated dog shit
Is it? I feel like I only ever hear people complain about it or find it middle of the road
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>>733691667
Playing this purely with a controller, and not only is it good, but it's practically proto RE4.
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>>733691252
>Mechanically, it's boring as fuck.
Nigger, all bosses in RE are the same.
>Figures it's a moviegamefag praising it.
I really hope you're not a RE6cuck.
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>>733681136
why hide achievements?
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>>733691779
There's a whole generation of YouTube essayists who glaze it like crazy. Probably mainly brownoid zoomers, but they truly have no critical thoughts outside of the personality their Twitter/YouTube feed gave them. Do they not see how truly dire the latter half of the game is? The shitty ship with its practically repeating level design is inexcusable. And I don't buy that 'excuse' that RE games fall off near the end. I never felt that way about OG RE2 and it felt like things only ramped up and I feel like it's a cope from nuRE fans that want to glaze dogshit like 7.
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>>733691825
I'd rather hide that one, both because the game tries to make you pull out a light gun constantly and because I don't want anyone to see Morpheus in the end. I guess if you want more early Resident Evil, you'll be satisfied.
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>>733675528
The only shit part is the end area and the appearance of Redfield
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>>733692017
How come I never see you whining like this about 4, 5, or 6?
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>do exceptionally well leading up to the margaret fight barely getting touched and getting lucky crits
>unload entire stockpile of ammo plus all the area pickups into her
>almost never get touched by her
>several minutes of this
>this goes on for so long I begin to wonder if she's glitched invincible
>down to my last mag of 9mm
>she finally dies
>later on face eveline
>start unloading the magnum ammo I've been hoarding
>don't even get through a whole mag before she dies, still have shit tons of ammo picked up in the mines left over
The adaptive difficulty in this game is completely nonsensical and really hurt my enjoyment of the game.
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>>733692017
Youtube essayists glazing games has been a thing for pretty much all japanese console shit that has been popular in the US, about franchises the americans grew up with.
Same thing applies to OG Resi games.
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>>733691252
Please explain the mechanical depth to the RE franchise that you must be enjoying.
Is your favorite game the classic trilogy where you strafe around the boss and then shoot.
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This feels like a 2 hour game stretched to 10.
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>>733691856
>Nigger, all bosses in RE are the same.
Nope.
>I really hope you're not a RE6cuck.
6 and 7 both suck and both try too hard to be movies.
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>>733692294
That's a known anti-RE7 schizo. Always posting the same script and never replying when confronted.
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>>733692152
>OG RE4

Easy action sloppa and I hate the "Umbrella died due to bankruptcy" opening, but after playing RE4 remake (which is a better action but worse in every other fucking way), I think I've been too critical, because it could be worse.

>5

Used to be my favorite of the modern ones as I consider it the conclusion of the series, but that dogshit turret section is fucking ABYSMAL, and on top of that, I found out that the gold DLC content is terrible too.

>6

No hate in my heart for this one to be honest as I had rightfully given up on RE as a franchise with a story worth caring about with OG 4, but I like the spectacle on display (even if it makes no sense like the opening helicopter crash) and the fact that it's practically 50 hours of content with the main campaign and mercenaries.

>>733692309
It's 6-8 hours. I don't know where you're getting 10.
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>>733692407
>That's a known anti-RE7 schizo.
Nope. But I've seen you try to force that name any time someone (rightfully) shits on 7. Then you start pissing and shitting and calling everyone a 6fag. Dumb nigger.
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>>733692484
Answer the question
>>733692294
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>>733692484
Point proven, kek.
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>>733692294
>Is your favorite game the classic trilogy where you strafe
Which classic game has strafing? I know 7fags don't actually play RE games but you could at least spend 10 seconds looking up videos so you don't make it obvious you're an idiot who hasn't played them in your first post.
>argue with me!
You just made it clear you haven't played them. There's nothing to argue about.
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>>733692532
Like>>733692567
said, you don't strafe around bosses and there's no point arguing with someone who hasn't played the games.

>>733692538
>kek
You'll always be brown and 7 will always be shit. People calling you a retard doesn't mean you made a point.
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>>733692567
Lmao you really are trying to deflect.
Tell me which RE boss has mechanical depth.
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>>733692639
>deflect
No, I'm pointing out that you're a stupid shitposter arguing about a video game you very clearly haven't played. You don't get to demand people argue with you about mechanics in games you literally don't play. That's fucking retarded. lmao
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>>733692690
Concession accepted
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>>733690641
>unironically think it's one of the greatest boss fights in the history of video gaming.
I mean it's cool and all, but this is massively overselling it.
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>>733692639
>Tell me which RE boss has mechanical depth.
Every Nemesis optional fight in 3 and the trash/acid fight. Most of the boss fights in 4.
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>>733692717
Makes sense that it's children from reddit trying to talk up that shitty game.
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>>733692729
What do you consider one of the best then?
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>>733692632
Ah so the big boy can talk shit but can't take any himself. Color me surprised.
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>>733692792
Not that.
>>733692294
>Please explain the mechanical depth to the RE franchise that you must be enjoying.
But you didn't compare it to other RE games, you compared it to "the history of video gaming".
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>>733692904
>Not that.
Coward.
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>>733692868
>debate me!
>it doesn't matter that I clearly haven't play the game, debate me so I can ignore what you actually wrote and call it clunky and simple even though I literally have not played the games in question!
Ah, so the redditor is a fucking retard who argues about games he doesn't play and then pretends he has some kind of logical high ground.
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>>733693057
>makes up an entire headcanon just to avoid confrontation
I'm liking this schizo.
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>>733693154
It's funny because you got called out for clearly not having played the games multiple times and then even got an answer here
>>733692732
but ignored it because you don't want to (and aren't able to) actually argue about boss fights. Your posts and nice and easy to spot because whenever people start shitting on 7 you show up and shitpost calling them the anti-7 schizo. Now you can be the 7schizo.
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>>733679407
I chose Zoe simply because the character had made a promise to her and she had stuck her neck out to help me. It just seemed like the honourable thing to do.
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>>733675528
It needed a different name for the IP, and then secretly merge with resident evil at the end, that would've been sick
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>>733693283
No you're supposed to be an autistic RE fan who knows about a super secret shitty DLC that's upcoming and know that'll make the choice pointless.
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>>733693241
So you admit that you are always looking for RE7 mentions? That sounds pretty schizophrenic behavior to me.
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>>733679407
Mia is a lying whore who betrayed Ethan and literally used him as a science experiment, not to mention an Umbrella employee. She's also ugly.
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That's basically what it does why would that make it any better
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SHIT
>>733693629 meant for >>733693406
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>>733693557
>So you admit that you are always looking for RE7 mentions?
That's not even close to what I said.
>That sounds pretty schizophrenic behavior to me.
Oh, you're just an ESLfag who can't read. That tracks given that 7fags are illiterate kids who grew up on streamers. And I can't help but notice that you didn't even pretend to try arguing about boss fights. Next time I see you getting mad that people are shitting on 7 I'll be sure to post a reminder in the thread that 7schizo hasn't played any of the older games. Have fun looking up longplays so you can pretend to sound knowledgeable about them.
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>>733693783
Didn't read. See you in the next RE7 thread, schizo.
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>>733694052
>can't read
>can't play RE1-3
Such is the life of 7schizo.
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GO TELL AUNT RHODY
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>>733693783
RE7 isn't perfect but I'd rather they follow that lead than fucking RE5.
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https://strawpoll.com/QrgewrOjjyp
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>>733675528
I finally finished this piece of shit the other day and it was shockingly cringe and gay towards the end with the little girl faggotry, as if the Texas Chainsaw Massacre references weren't cringe enough. It's SO fucking bad I can't believe retards let this slide
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>>733694340
I'd be mad if there was an actual spooky little girl but otherwise by that point I was okay with obvious movie references.
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>>733675528
This should've been a new IP. Sticking the RE brand just made it limited in scope and lore.
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>>733675528
There had been more than a dozen different RE games between the mainline titles ans spinoff games.

Define exactly what constitutes a "Resident evil" game, because by its very own self definition, it can be horror, it can be campy action, it can be utterly absurd schlock, it can be zombies, it can do absolutely nothing with zombies, it can take ppace in a single building, it can take place in an entire city, it can bs dramatic and character focused, it can be about as flat as the enviornmental renders of 1 through 3, the only thing it hadn't been up to the point of 7 was first person and even thats semi debatable given all the transitions are first person.

Calling 7 a bad RE game is the most tourist McFucking
>Heh look at me, Im real le gamor aesthetic, my favorite game is le Silent Hill 2 and le pinnappol pizza is le bad
Schtick ever, especially since it always parroted by retards who always never played any other RE games outaide of 4, or any Silent Hill games outside of 2. Its the take of a 95 IQ fan of Resident Evil Youtube "essayists" and not someone who actually played the fucking game.

I mean my god grow a fucking original opinion and a personality, fuck.
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>>733675528
The mines and the ship sequence in the second half of the game are such a slog to sit through.
First half in the estate was great though.
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>>733694542
See: >>733679853

Bruh fell in love with a 6-8 hour slop fest and pretends no other games in the first person horror genre exist
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>>733694542
>if you point out how shitty this pile of dogcrap game is you are... le bad
What gay retarded cope, you nucapcom sloppers will just accept anything they shit out onto your plate.
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>>733675528
This game is kinography in VR
>>733679407
Mia is the obvious choice but in retrospect after beating the game zoe deserved it more
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>>733694701
>Mia is the obvious choice

Why? Only Ethan would care. From the players perspective and the story you personally see, Zoe matters more. So is this the most immersive RE or the least immersive? I wish 7fags would make up their mind.
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>>733679609
>cute
They are both really ugly, zoe is uglier. I otherwise agree and gave it to zoe as a matter of prinicple but not because I wanted to fuck her dogfaced ass.
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>>733694765
Mia is the reason you came there in the first place, you see zoe like 1 time in person up to that point. The promise of the game is you save your wife so thats what the player is likely going to do.
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>>733694930
I wanted ethan to just move the fuck on and forget his ugly glownigger gf
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>>733692434
>RE7 is le bad
>takes off mask
>RE6 apologist
Every time.
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>>733694897
Yeah compared to the hot chicks in previous games, she's """realistic""", but I think they're both fugly and swear too much.

I like Zoe because like somebody else posted here, she stuck her neck out when she didn't have to.

>>733694930
Then don't make it a choice -- and 7fag, you know it's bad in not a "this is a horror game" way, but in a "this game is clearly rushed dogshit" way
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>>733695007
RE7 is actually le bad and after doing two playthroughs with a friend, I can't think of one moment I dislike in RE6 (EXCEPT for saving all those people at the gunstore and then them dying anyway. Really didn't like that. I wish Leon just saved them.)
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>>733675528
What's a "good" Resident Evil game? RE4? Ha
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>>733694664
Saying you dislike it for specific pointed reasons is fundamentally different than saying its bad because its not Resident Evil you blundering bumbling buffon.

"Resident Evil" means fucking nothing. Its an umbrella IP in the same fucking way Silent Hill is a franchise about crazy cults murderraping a little girl into birthing Yaweh, but the second game is about a dude killing his wife.

Saying you dislike it for reasons is actually in fucking alignment with and REINFORCES what I fucking said to begin with, because its an actual fucking opinion and not the regurgitation of some faggots fursona Armored Skeptic ripoff in a suit and tophat rotating between 6 different drawings of looking disgruntled, while explaining RE7 is le bad because number le 7 is not le 1, 2, 3, 4, or the most famous number of all, Veronica.
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>>733695134
Most "true blue" RE fans can't even beat RE1 as Chris and then complain about 0 for it's limited inventory (which is, you know, a typical feature with survival horror games)

I honestly think most RE fans can go to hell, seeing as their favorites are always the easiest entries (RE4)
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>>733695134
>>733695289
>you are allowed to dislike it for reasons but NOT THOSE REASONS NO NO NO NO NO you are le 4 fan because i said so!
Holy shit just kys already there is no point trying to have an honest discussion about anything with you tards.
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its the most resident evil
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>>733695134
true, resident evil is the pasta of gaming
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>>733695494
>Wh-what the fuck is with these fucking crazy fucking residents?! They're fucking EVIL!!
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>>733690673
Not so coincidentally, RE8 also falls apart after you leave the Dimitrescu castle.
All RE games start incredibly strong and then force you to do lame sewer, swamp, and so on levels.
RE4 is the only one that managed to be engaging all the way through. No surprise it is the most beloved RE game of all time.
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You should pick Mia cause Mia's infection turns her into murderous deadite while Zoe's infection apparently has no symptoms, who cares if she waits little longer
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>>733697584
I do think Resi8 fared better than most.
The dollhouse was nice change of pace and the factory was good too, I enjoyed how it was layered and its theming. Then the plot jumps a shark like crazy, but at least Chris' part was cathartic.
The dam area I really didn't like much, traversing between areas was kind of pain though and having to run around the map to hunt animal for upgrades feels lame and like just way to pad out time.
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>>733697584
it is pretty impressive that people always say the island is the worst part of re4 and it's still pretty consistent with the rest of the game (and also pretty good) i've been away from 4chan for a bit, this new captcha system is so ass
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it really rEALLY looks bad in 2026

textures are muddy as fuck
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>>733699632
rEALLY?
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>>733699671
rEALLY
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>>733685190
Surely Resident Evil was NEVER like a horror movie from the moment you start a new game
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I want another RE 7 like game

Make it some blair witch thing in texas
Make it some cult thing in the deep south
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>>733679407
I always saved Zoe even if its the "wrong" choice. She's cuter and Mia is a glowie who dragged her boyfriend into shit he never asked for and now he's fucking mold
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>>733675835
They wanted to make a resident evil mixed with whatever first person horror slop that was popular at the time, amnesia I think?
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>>733699937
Outlast(which they were already late to the popularity of) gameplay with the visual aesthetic blatantly copied from PT
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Ethan is thoroughly uninteresting. He's a metahuman made of garbage
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>>733699735
>Make it some blair witch thing in texas
Go play the blair witch walking simulator where you hold W for 2 hours and nothing happens
>Make it some cult thing in the deep south
Go play Outlast 2
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Are we pretending that re7 doesn't have gameplay? madhouse is decently hard and ethan must die is easily the hardest thing in any re game
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>>733701991
Fighting one enemy type for the whole game gets old quick
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>>733701991
No it's just that the game is shit, hard doesn't necessarily mean good either
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>>733702062
True but I think they do enough with the stalker enemies to make up for it.
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>>733675528
Yeah the boat part sucks but everything else was great

>>733679853
>RE0 is good
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>733701991
DEmake trannies have been getting uppity lately since 9 is going to suck big balls
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>>733702960
Why is it shit? ive played every re except 6 and 8 and its probably in my top 3
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>>733703017
The wacky family schtick is dumb, boss battles are bad, ugly ghost girl superhero shit is extremely cringe and gay, the entire third act of the game is the worst trash I've witnessed in any RE game, bringing umbrella back as good guys for no reason, do I really need to explain? It's garbage
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Were the Bakers the most evil residents in the franchise?
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>>733675528
The last section of this game and that of Outlast blend together in my mind.
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>>733675528
It really was only good for one playthrough which is kinda sucks for an RE.
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>>733703269
The boss battles are fun, they are better than most re boss battles.
>ugly ghost girl superhero
shes not a super hero though shes evil
>the entire third act of the game is the worst trash
Its not that bad its just weaker than the first 2 thirds.
>bringing umbrella back as good guys for no reason
who cares
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>>733703481
This. I got the platinum so I had to do all collectibles/speedrun with no item box/madhouse runs and having to sit through the slow walking segments with Mia each time is suffering. Also fuck the mines.
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>>733679407
I honestly don't know. Most dumb/random/pointless "choice" moment I've ever seen in a videogame.
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>>733703503
NTA but where would you put RE7 on a tier list.
>t. I haven't played other RE games yet and now I'm keen to play them.
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>>733703839
Im biased because I played it in VR but I would honestly put it at the top below the original re4 and re2/re1 remakes. I like 0 as well because rebecca is sex but the loot box bullshit in that game brings it down. Also re2 and 1 remake are great and 3 and 4 remake are ass
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>>733703503
>shes not a super hero though shes evil
Missing my point autismo, which is that it's extremely cringe and gay. It's the central focus of the entire third act so it's not like you can just hand wave it as no big deal, every 5 seconds you have this ugly little kid grimacing in your face using force powers and shit, it's so fucking retarded but i guess you might think it's le based if you're a nonce.
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>I like 0 as well because rebecca is sex
Based I haven't played 0 because I'm about to play OG 4 for the first time.
>Upcoming games after 4
0, Remake and maybe CV, 5, 6 and so fourth
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>>733679407
>>733679609
>>733693283
>>733703693

There are several hints in the game that show that Ethan's objective is not necessarily Mia's rescue.

1. Ethan is oddly cold to Mia throughout the whole game.
2. Mia accuses Ethan of spying on her
3. Evelyn, after absorbing Ethan, declares to Mia that Ethan does not love Mia. Mia only weakly denies this assertion.
4. Ethan may or may not be tied with Blue Umbrella given how he seemed to recognize the chopper at the end ("What took you guys so long?")
5. Recovering one of the E series parts has Ethan state"this doesn't make sense" in terms of making the serum. Why would he know whether or not it would make sense?
6. In the Zoe ending, he doesn't retrieve someone with longterm mutamycete exposure and he states "both windows are closed". In the Mia ending, he says "one window closes (Zoe) but another opens (Mia)

Long story short Ethan is the Ada Wong of the game
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>>733704265
forth*
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>>733704437
I recall there being a theory that Ethan was a former Umbrella scientist, which is why he has such a blase attitude towards all the monstrosities he encounters in his games. Could have made for a fun twist since Mia was also a secret agent working for a bioterrorist organization.
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>>733675528
It's definitely not a fucking masterpiece.
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>>733704574
Yeah there's the "Ethan W" document in RE5 that's a list of people who worked for umbrella
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>>733703379
no. they dindu nuffin.
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>>733704735
I have a fucking bone to pick with damn bitches like you.

Fuck.
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>>733675528
I like it and I don't get the hate honestly.
>masterpiece
I am not sure if I would go that far but it's great
>shit Resident Evil game
If this is a shit Resident Evil game what were 4, 5 and 6?
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>>733675528
>haunted house Disney land tier attraction level design
>forced puzzles everywhere
>3 enemy types
>6 hours not counting walking around, flashbacks and intro
>ship level
>no final boss, pretty much a qte

It’s worse than RE6
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>>733701991
>it’s hard because you die in 2 hits!!
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>>masterpiece
>I am not sure if I would go that far but it's great

Even though I don't like the story that much, Control is a great game. Meanwhile, 7 starts strong and then tumbles almost immediately off a cliff. You also need the ten million DLCs for it to resemble anything close to complete.
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>>733705207
>Control is a great game
Not him but WTF are you talking about?
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>>733679407
I kind of wanted to go with zoe because that's obviously the more daring choice but the game didn't really give me a tipping point that felt natural. the precondition of having searched for mia for years and her having material information you really want to know is a bar the game failed to meet. the fact that they made dlc about a left behind zoe getting saved tells me mia was the no brainer default.
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>>733704794
Just admit you like slop instead of pretending it's good
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>>733705317
There's no question it's one of the best TPSes ever made, even though my favorite Remedy games are still Max Payne 2 > Max Payne 1 > Quantum Break

Don't even ask about Alan Wake, which is an embarrassing pile of shit.
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>>733705350
I was pretending to be the dialogue of RE7, Demake 2 and 3
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>>733705367
>There's no question it's one of the best TPSes ever made
You are actually retarded. there is NO WAY you unironically think that piece of shit is good.
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>>733705431
Show me your Steam hours and achievements.
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>>733705462
How about you gain some taste and stop playing "2DEEP4U" pseudointellectual slop.
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>>733705634
>"2DEEP4U" pseudointellectual slop.

That has nothing to do with the gameplay of Control and I don't think anything in it is particularly "2DEEP4U" besides the mountains of lore that you don't have to read.
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>>733691667
No, the problem was that both Remake and 0 were gamecube exclusives. 4 was saved thanks to the ps2 release
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>>733703675
It got easier when each playthrough since they let you use the OP items, the circular saw carried me through madhouse.
Never bother doing the banned footage tho, only Not a Hero and End of Zoe.
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>>733705680
>gameplay of Control
Is shit.
you can find any game with better combat, why suck off control of all games?
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>>733705772
>you can find any game with better combat

How many games let me fly and fling objects at my enemies before I mindcontrol one of them?
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>>733704247
>It's the central focus of the entire third act
Thats the origin of the entire plague in the game and I think its interesting. The kid being ugly is a symptom of the RE engine having bad faces and hair. Evelyn is a conceptually cool character with kind of sloppy execution. Still one of the better RE villiains
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>>733705075
>forced puzzles everywhere
It has like the least puzzles of any re game
>>733705196
you die in one hit in EMD which is bullshit but its still harder than any re game. Hell I would say the night terror dlc is also harder than any re game and you dont die in 2 hits there
>>733705748
daughters and nightmare are pretty cool, the other ones are ass
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All of you have no reason for your love of this series outside of nostolgia and misplaced loyalty.

>1
Goo game with some unique and novel concepts at the time. First horror game that was actually "scary," if you don't count the 7th guest. It's aged like shit however.
>2
Call of Duty style sequel, More of the same aged like shit.
>3
Call of Duty style sequel, More of the same aged like shit.

The PS1 Resident Evil games became laughable compared to Silent Hill/Dino Crisis. Where as Silent Hill was fully 3D and controlled well, RE relied on pre-rendered backgrounds and never truly improved on the formula. It got worse and worse by focusing on autistic anime storylines rather than individual spooky Biohazard incidents.

>Code Veronica
Honestly just sad compared to Silent Hill 2. The first game in the series I'd consider to be truly awful.
>Zero
Pretty and has some interesting ideas but remains more of the same, except bogged down with awful partner system.
>4
Universally Acclaimed. Credited with inventing a new genre entirely. Refined action. Standalone storry and the first major tone/stylistic change in the franchise. Literally the only people who dislike it are Resident Evil autists for some reason.

Gamecube era was a mixed bag.

>5
Call of Duty style sequel for 4. Mediocre but abandoned any pretense of survival and/or horror.
>6
A literal disaster approaching Blunder of the Century material. Chose to ape western AAA games and failed horrendously. Words can't describe how bad it truly is.

PS3 era was bad.

>7
Great. Returned the series to its roots while simultaneously reinventing it. Fantastic atmosphere and graphics. Again, only hated by RE autists.

The series is honestly not good and it cracks me up that the fanbase hates the only two games in their franchise that are actually good.
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>>733675528
the nortubel of resident evil
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>>733706434
This is bait
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>>733679853
I don’t understand why so many people have trouble on the animal lighter puzzle, it very clearly indicates you need to light them in order of prey>predator, and every single animal plate lists the specific animal they’re above of
The real puzzle that sucks ass is the 4 digit dial to open the laboratory
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>>733703003
Zero is great
>muh hookshot puzzles
You have to run back 5 minutes at most if you left it on the train
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>>733706434
>Where as Silent Hill was fully 3D and controlled well, RE relied on pre-rendered backgrounds
Your bait is actually terrible
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>>733675528
I want to keep playing RE but Im dogshit at them and have been stuck on 3 for years
>start re3
>have fun for a few hours
>get stuck at nemesis clock tower fight
>drop game for a bit
>restart a year later
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>>733707881
Nemesis is left handed so circle his right
Freeze rounds are the strongest ammo type in the game
Make ammo with only one gun powder to make special bullets faster
Good luck
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>>733707881
I believe in you anon, you got this
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>>733708038
>>733708223
I appreciate the support anons, you convinced me to boot it up. Then I remembered I only had one healing item and Im shit at dodging, so after 5 or so attempts I'm surrendering again lol. Might at least savescum and try and go into it with more health items
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It was kino. Makes sense that the haters are 6 apologists.
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>Inventory management is back
>More emphasis on horror
>Exploration is a factor again
>Solving puzzles is a factor again
>Brought back a tyrant chasing you
>7 is a reimagining of RE1
How is it a bad RE game? The shift to first person? It helped the game become more scarier. Game falls off after dealing with Jack? I would argue Marguerite is just as scary? The final act is the weakest part but it's not that bad, people exaggerate how bad the third act is. Ethan? Will never understand the hate he got. He was the average man put in a fucked up situation, kept going and fought for those he loved. 7 is kino, but it doesn't matter since Capcom decided to ignore the foundation it set up after.
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>>733679853
I don't even understand how this is a hot take. There's no way that people who played all the previous RE games got to RE7 and thought, "Wow, what a masterpiece"
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When it came out it looked shit because it was first person. But then when people tried it they realised, yeah, actually this feels right. And then Village carried on the torch, and the remakes. 7 was the start of a Renaissance for RE which hopefully is carried on with this new one. Shame about the Denuvo
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>>733694542
>Define exactly what constitutes a "Resident evil" game,
Action horror game with tight pacing that has routing, puzzles, and replayability. 7 throws that out the window in favor of railroading the player with scripted scares and unskippable interactive cutscenes. It's also the only RE game that takes over 2 hours to introduce the first zombie. It's absolutely the outlier, no matter how hard people who don't play the old games insist it's a return to form.
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>>733675528
>masterpiece
Everything it tries to do, other horror games have done better in the past. Do RE fans play other horror games?
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>>733675528
7 is a high-budget reframing of the first Revelations game, and that game was already an attempt to reframe 4/5 into a more horror-oriented foundation. This is the path the series had to walk on before making its way to something stable like 2make.
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WE NEED a Spencer spin off.

Everything concerning why he changed paths should be explained. Including past games lore, leading up to re9.

Give us first person.

Give us cinema.

Give us horror.

Give us an intriguing storyline.

Give us a selfsacrificing hero.


Give us…. Resident Good
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>>733709463
>scripted scares and unskippable interactive cutscenes
Resident evil 3 did this
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>>733689940
the rotten food dinner scene and all the over the top gore, getting your hand cut off, that whole fingernail pulling moment, stuff like that. It was just Texas Chainsaw Massacre style shock horror that felt kind of cliché. I think the thing I hated the most was just how the villains were written like the most batshit insane retarded Hillbillies
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>>733675835
There was clearly a lot of cut content, like the son just escaping with no follow up until the DLC.

It's kinda lame how the base game has only 3 enemy types but there's like 9 more across the DLC's. I wish they updated the base game instead of releasing these 2 hour long DLC's.
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>Enjoyed RE7
>Thought RE8 was middling and kind of bad
Not sure about this feel.
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>>733709887
Nemesis could appear out of nowhere, completely at random. That was cool. RE7 has a bunch of scripted sections where the game takes control away from you. Honestly, that feels worse and less immersive in first person. I’d rather have an actual cutscene than forced scripted sections.
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>>733690641
>the closest thing to grindhouse in a game
I see what you mean, but you really need to play Typing of the Dead Overkill. It includes the non-typing version as well, grab a friend to co-op with if able.
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>>733706434
re7 is shit, fuck off
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>Exploration is a factor again
Except it's not. The game is incredibly linear and the few "exploration" parts only let you do one thing to progress and tell you which items you need and where they are.
>Brought back a tyrant chasing you
Hide and seek with Jack is worse than tyrant in 2R, and even worse than the scripted Nemesis encounters in original 3.
>7 is a reimagining of RE1
No it's not. It's literally "Let's man an Outlast/Amnesia clone"
>Will never understand the hate he got. He was the average man put in a fucked up situation, kept going and fought for those he loved.
He's boring. RE is about special cops and stuff fighting zombies, not everymen, and even then Ethan is actually a super special mold mutant man who's more durable than any RE character. Him yelling fuck a lot doesn't make him any more relatable than it did Moira in Rev 2, but at least she has more personality than Ethan who's bland most of the time.
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>>733710065
That's normal. They're completely different besides being in first person.
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>>733710393
Dude, you just have to accept that the game was made for casuals, and it succeeded greatly at that.
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>>733709887
Yes but in RE3 you could actually fight Nemesis and get rewarded for it, and the cutscenes always gave you a choice that affected how the game played out. It was always 100% rooted in gameplay, which is something 7 never did. 7 is static and on rails because it's primary goal is being a super scary movie, which was absolutely never what the series was. That's why claims that it's some kind of back to roots game are retarded.
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>>733708730
Search yt for smallvillecs, he has videos with techniques to deal with Nemesis. At the tower, you can get him sort of stuck to one of the hedges, giving you chances to score some safe hits.
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>>733710393
>Except it's not.
Except it is.
>Hide and seek with Jack is worse than tyrant in 2R.
Not really.
>No it's not. It's literally "Let's man an Outlast/Amnesia clone"
Wrong.
>He's boring.
Wrong.
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>>733692639
>Tell me which RE boss has mechanical depth.
4 completely shits on 7 mechanically
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>>733710458
I'm aware. The people I know who like it don't really play the other RE games and the only praise they have for it is that it's scary. That's fine. But that anon said it's a reimagining of 1.

>>733710489
Show me a part that's non-linear, as in a part where you have a choice for which puzzle/area to go do next. Preferably one where the door you need to unlock and the key for that door aren't marked for you, since that's what 1 did and you're saying it's a reimagining of 1.
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>>733710560
>Show me a part that's non-linear, as in a part where you have a choice for which puzzle/area to go do next. Preferably one where the door you need to unlock and the key for that door aren't marked for you, since that's what 1 did and you're saying it's a reimagining of 1.
So you hate RE2 then?
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>>733710608
Nta but holy waffle argument Batman
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>>733710608
I forgot RE1 also had themed keys for specific doors, lol.
>>733710694
RE2 has exactly what you described tho, yet you use that argument only to criticize RE7. Now stop evading and answer the question, if you can.
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>>733710608
RE2 didn't mark everything on your map and tell you how to do puzzles. It also had different scenarios for A and B, and added variety with the zapping system. 7 does absolutely none of that. It's all scripted and on rails and plays out the same every time while being full of interactive cutscenes with only one worthless choice at the end.
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>>733710727
NTA means not the asshole aka I wasn't the guy who said >>733710560

I was just commenting that you waffle argumented him hard
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>>733710727
>I didn't play 1 but I looked it up and it had shaped keys so it's the same as 7 lol
It's almost impressive how consistently ignorant 7fags are about the older games.
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>>733710729
>RE2 didn't mark everything on your map tell you how to do puzzles.
It didn't need to, if you passed through the area you already knew what key was needed. Why argue about linearity if you're gonna kneecap your own point like that?
>It also had different scenarios for A and B, and added variety with the zapping system.
Endings were literally the same tho. The biggest praise it can be given is that it had different cutscenes.
>>733710805
Oh you are the schizo. Still making up headcanons, I see.
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>>733685084
>>733683505
>>733710964
>>733710727

Zoomers shouldn't be allowed to have an opinion.

Legit dogshit people.
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>>733711025
Agreed. You can close the tab now.
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>>733710393
The game is nothing like amnesia or outlast though what are you talking about? You cant defend yourself in either of those games
>>733710459
You can fight and kill jack and marguerite when they are in their tyrant modes wanderinga around the house
>hes boring
Ethan is not any less or more interesting than chris redfield, but you could easily argue hes more interesting than chris
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>>733710964
>It didn't need to
>downplaying the zapping system
Post ignored. You didn't play the game.
>schizobabble
You are mentally ill.
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Take solace in realizing that the fags who hate 7 are just actioncucks who actually believes 5 and 6 are more RE games than 7 and loves larping as veterans who played the tank control era of RE. their hate boner for 7 means nothing considering fagcom is just going back to the action era of the series.
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>>733711627
>the fags who hate 7 are just actioncucks who actually believes 5 and 6 are more RE games than 7 and loves larping as veterans who played the tank control era of RE
kek
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>>733711447
>The game is nothing like amnesia or outlast though what are you talking about?
You haven't played either of them, or old RE games.
>You can fight and kill jack and marguerite when they are in their tyrant modes wanderinga around the house
You can waste ammo because the game wants you to play hige and seek. In RE3, you're actually incentivized to fight because you can get a unique weapon from downing Nemesis.
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>>733711447
>but you could easily argue hes more interesting than chris
If you're a third world child who spams faceapp edits and CHADTHAN, sure.
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>>733711627
>tries arguing about the games
>makes it clear he hasn't played any of the old games
>starts meta shitposting about 6
Like clockwork.
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>>733675528
Can we all agree?It's better than resident evil 8?
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>>733711780
I have played every resident evil game except for 8 and 6
>You can waste ammo because the game wants you to play hige and seek.
I like this, you are using ammo to dispose of threats, that should be the focus in a survival horror, I think nemesis dropping weapons kind of reduces him as a threat he becomes like a ooh I can get a cool weapon instead of an oh shit how am I gonna get through this area. Yeah he is both but one factor kind of diminishes the other. Part of the fear of fighting and using ammo in survival horror is the idea that you could run out and be fucked later on. if you know fighting some scary guy will give you some good gear its inherently less scary
>>733711815
The same could be said about boulder punching Chris
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>>733711861
No, my argument is very clear. you RE5/6 fags are a cancer. fagcom appealed to the lowest common denominator and when actual fans noticed the direction RE was heading towards . fagcom shifted focus. Too bad retards who began with the action slop era of RE, infested the series and likes to pretend they always loved the older games. This whole thread isn't about RE7's flaws as a game, it's about the fakest of fakes trying to pretend 7 isn't the first game since REmake to not be embarrassed of its survival horror origins. Like I said it doesn't matter in the end, fagcom will just bring RE back to being a hollywood action franchise and you will cheer because "le Jill is gonna meet le Leon".
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>This whole thread isn't about RE7's flaws as a game,

But we've gone through them. RE7 loving fucknuts just pretend we don't see how shitty most of the game is because you faggots got absolutely enamored by the fucking marketing rather than the actual game you have to play.
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>Brags about an achievement you can only get if you fork over the money for DLC

Sad. Couldn't be RE6 whose only DLC is meme multiplayer modes.
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>>733712897
What is this image supposed to prove, that you played on easy/conserved ammo? This is how my inventory looks at the end of every re game but with grenade launcher and magnum bullets instead
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>>733699937
REdevs were having an identity crisis. With RE4/5/6 they had gone full dumb-action and it wasn't exactly paying off since 5 and 6 weren't as critically praised as 4 was. (Because 4 was the one that still felt like a horror game somewhat).

You could see them looking around at other horror games and feeling like they had become the mcdonalds of the genre. Also VR had just become the big thing and they wanted in on that but realised VR only really works in first person.
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>>733713208
It was on normal, you homo because you have to unlock Madhouse first.

>B-b-b-but

I'm not gonna play a bad game twice. The shitty boathouse, shitty capsized ship, shitty mine and shitty final boss suddenly aren't going to be amazing on a higher difficulty.
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>>733713340
Madhouse is definitely an improvement but not a massive overhaul. The biggest thing aside from the limited saves is that the four-legged molded can basically kill you if you miss putting a shotgun shell between their eyes.
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>>733675528
I was probably wired to dislike it from the beginning, but damn I wasn't a fan at all. Just a boring fucking setting. One-note "rednecks are le creepy, right?" characters. Zero enemy variety. Ethan is a whimpering faggot and I hate playing as him. And i dont really care for the story either, though that shit doesnt really matter to me anyway when it comes to vidya.

Disliked this one so much I actively avoided Village. Will be coming back for requiem since it seems closer to what I want in re games though it doesn't look amazing.
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>>733712897
>see it's also dumb action, look how generous the game was with ammo
It's more of a horror game than 5 or 6 was.
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And look, I don't want to trash a game with a boss this amazing in it. Zoe and Mia are not Sherry with Claire or Leon with Ada, so the games a whole emotional flatline, so all that's left is the level design, enemies and gameplay, and the game just becomes an absolute wash.

I liked Not A Hero (which was free), End of Zoe was retarded. (hur RE7 brought back the horror, now here's this tonally inconsistent comedy DLC) The other DLCs are a smorgasbord of weird attempted minigame things/point and click adventures, but overall the other DLCs felt like they had no direction.
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Happy now?
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>>733675528
>a shit Resident Evil game
A shit Resident Evil game, huh? You mean how it's nothing like your bing bing wahoo dopamine-drip RE4 third person shooter with i-frame melee and algorithmically distributed resource drops? You mean how its gameplay is 95% identical to Resident Evil 1? That kind of shit Resident Evil game?
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>>733713570
>Just a boring fucking setting.
Name 2 resident evil games with a better setting
>ethan is a whimpering faggot
Nigger did you play the game? He fights fucking abominations with a straight face. Leon bitches more in re2
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>>733714293
>You mean how its gameplay is 95% identical to Resident Evil 1?

You mean except for important parts like how Chris had only 6 slots to work with?
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>>733675528
I suck at resident evil but I thoroughly enjoyed watching my friends play it.
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>>733714413
You don't get to move goalposts or ignore multi-slot items. RE7 is more Resident Evil than any new RE game that was released in over a decade before it. Remember. The 3D action RE games had bigger inventories than that, and they didn't even have quest items take space. You're not helping your case.
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>>733714393
>>733714393
>Name 2 resident evil games with a better setting
Literally every single one except re1.

>Leon bitches more in re2
Maybe so but at least Leon is charismatic enough. Ethan just felt like a big quivering pussy to me, and bland as water.

>b-but he's meant to be a le everyman!!!
Sure but he's wooden as hell. Why would I want to be that joyless faggot when I can be a wisecracking curtain haired chad kicking ass in spain instead?
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>>733714293
You know I was going to disagree about saying it's like RE1. But then I had to remind myself just how much Resident Evil had changed with the 4/5/6 trilogy. Just by having a explorable hub world with keys to expand access and even a universal item box mechanic RE7 really was the closest thing to RE1 to come out since RE1make. In that respect it did feel like a return to form to pave the way for the RE2make.
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>>733675528
>oh boy can't wait to see the lab section in this game, it's my favourite parts!
>what? That's it? It's just 2 rooms?
>what do you mean it's in the DLC
this pissed me off
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>Same weapon roster as RE1 plus double shotty like Zero and machinegun like RE2
>Save rooms with save music, save recording equipment and magic teleporting item box like RE1
>Mansion, guest house, caves, and laboratory like RE1
>Shotgun puzzle and clock puzzle like RE1
>Emblem keys like RE1
>Small keys that you can only use once like RE1
>Triple-key lock like RE1
>Mutating boss fights like RE2
>Limited inventory and capacity expansions like RE2
>Boss killer gun dropped from a helicopter like RE1
>Binary character trust choice halfway that affects the endings, like RE1
>Escaping into the sunrise like every RE game ever, complete with a re-arrangement of the ending theme song of RE1
Unskippable cutscenes like RE1

>No algorithmic treasure drops, unlike RE4 and 5
>No algorithmic ammo and health drops, unlike RE4 and 5
>No weapon stat upgrades, unlike RE4 and 5
>No QTEs, unlike like RE4, 5 and 6
>No enemies using guns and boss-killing rocket launcher weapons that somehow don't kill the protagonist but can kill a Tyrant, unlike RE3, 4, 5 and 6
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>>733679853
Disregard this anon, all he does is complain about games
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Resident Evil is great because it constantly shifts and changes. You might not like a certain direction, but at least it keeps you guessing and you know the series won't stay there for too long. Personally, I hate the co-op entries but that's RE sometimes, it just picks random shit up and runs with it for a bit.
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Retard, it's one of the best Resident Evil games, probably just behind REmake 1.
Resident Evil 4 though? That is a great action game but an absolute dogshit Resident Evil game.
This franchise has had so many different games that its fanbase is completely split between 4 or 5 different types of game.
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>>733714904
There are some pretty fucking bland Resident Evil games as far as setting goes. So many of them default to grey corridors because there was a point when the series really was just bland AAA slop. RE7 deciding to suddenly be texas chainsaw massacre was definitely giving it an identity to help it stand out. I say the same thing about RE4 doing the whole folk horror foggy autumnal woods thing and RE8 with the snowy villages also gave those games identity.
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>>733714413
And Jill gets 8?
How does this change anything from the fact that RE7 is one of the closest in design philosophy to the first game?
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It’s fun but if they added more enemy variety and maybe made the Chris DLC just apart of the end game like Chris’ section in 8 it would’ve been a GOATed game
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>>733701002
I sometimes genuinely forget PT was supposed to be a Silent Hill game, and wasnt a demo for RE7.
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>>733715685
>constantly shifts and changes. You might not like a certain direction, but at least it keeps you guessing
Why not just date a woman?
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>>733719084
Half the games feature female protags, after all.
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>>733675528
RE fans are such faggots. They have one of the few franchises that aren't woke shit or flattened by trend chasing while at the same time coming up with decent sequels all the time on top of decent remakes and they still bitch about it.
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>>733719567
Can't argue with that. For how long the series has dared to take risks, it's surprising how enduring its appeal has been.
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>>733719567
It's very obviously trend chasing.
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>oh you dont like RE7?
>yeah well youre just a 4/5/6 shill you never played the originals
I'm getting tired of seeing 7trannies keep repeating this lie.
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>>733720087
>you are NOT allowed to criticize capcom's shitty decisions or else you're a trend chaser
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>>733712557
>I like this, you are using ammo to dispose of threats, that should be the focus in a survival horror, I think nemesis dropping weapons kind of reduces him as a threat
So you don't like RE, you like Outlast and Amnesia which is why you like RE7.
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>>733712683
5 and 6 suck. So does 7. 7 was not a course correction or a "real survival horror game."
>slop
Everything you say is stupid and wrong.
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>>733721636
7 was a course correction, just a flawed one. Even a streamlined, cinematic game that merely runs through RE's mechanical tropes like a checklist was stabilizing compared to where the series had gone in the decade prior to it.
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>>733714293
>You mean how its gameplay is 95% identical to Resident Evil 1?
Except that it's full of interactive cutscenes for the entire game, has hide and seek, has a fucking Saw escape room, never has more than one way forward, has boring encounter design, tells you which keys go where and has gimmick boss fights, sure. It's in a house and there's an item box so same shit.
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>>733675528
It's just Resident Evil 0 again.
Soon as you get out of the first section aka the Train/Main Baker house. The quality begins to drop
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>>733714904
>Literally every single one except re1.
Nta that asked but you're retarded. RE1 has a better setting, in what place is the mansion inferior to RPD?
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Ship > Mansion > Testing Area > Old House > Mines

Ship is incredibly overhated and aside from basement, the mansion is overrated. Testing Area has Happy Birthday, Old House has the Marguerite fight (and annoying ass bees), and the mines...well, you can run past 90% of it at least.
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>>733720164
It's logical that disdain towards 7 would be towards what it replaced which would be what 4/5/6 was doing. Plenty of people would say they liked 7 simply for preferring it to the dumb action games they series had become.

If you want to have the take that you don't like 4/5/6 OR 7 and would rather have fixed camera kino I can respect that. Thing is people criticising 7 are rarely in a rush to make that clear and often suggest they really did prefer the action slop.
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>>733721827
>it's full of interactive cutscenes for the entire game
RE1 has tons of cutscenes, both introducing enemies and characters talking at each other
>has a fucking Saw escape room
RE1 has the Jill Sandwich room and the gas holes in the floor you cover up
>tells you which keys go where
>helmet key
>armor key
RE1 does this too
>boring encounter design
RE1's second half is spamming Hunters
>gimmick boss fights
>stand in corner shooting boss
>move when boss targets you
>rinse
>repeat
Wow. RE7 sounds a lot like RE1 to me. And you sound like a LARPer
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>>733704437
>>733704574
This would've been a far better twist than Ethan being dead the whole time. I shouldn't have expected anything but was still disappointed when it was turned out Ethan was truly just a regular guy with no crazy backstory
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>>733722671
>RE1 has tons of cutscenes, both introducing enemies and characters talking at each other
Wrong, and those are cutscenes, not interactive fake gameplay.
>RE1 has the Jill Sandwich room and the gas holes in the floor you cover up
I said Saw room, not a room with a trap in it. They're not even close to the same.
>RE1 does this too
Show me the map that marks where keys are for a door you found that also has a readable to go along with it. Actually post it or shut the fuck up.
>Wow. RE7 sounds a lot like RE1 to me. And you sound like a LARPer
It sounds to me like you're trying to pretend a 2 minute into scene you can skip in almost every release of RE1 is comparable to 30 minutes of driving up to the house and walking around with Mia. Sou mnds like another 7fag that hasn't actually played 1.
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>>733679853
Re0 is pretty good though on my first blind playthrough I had to restart since I got fucked over pretty bad with not conserving my ammo better (also a big thing I hate is how much backtracking you have to do, my one ding against 0)
as for 7, it's alright, but replay-ability is not the best, the WORST is mia's boat section, I would be happy if it wasn't included at all imo, it's always such a slog
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>>733722994
The intro scene is more like 5 minutes with the interaction of Wesker after the live action cutscene. Sounds like you exposed yourself as not actually having played 1
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>>733722671
>RE1 has tons of cutscenes, both introducing enemies and characters talking at each other
How much of RE1 is cutscenes and how much of RE7 is scripted hold forward/wait moviegame shit? If you're even trying to pretend these are comparable you're the greatest shitposter any RE thread has ever seen.
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>>733723156
https://youtu.be/sTzV88Ug7jY?t=49&si=66fAKBTGgpWSDo_-
Less than 5 minutes between the intro FMV and dialogue. You're actually playing the game in less than 5 minutes. You're objectively wrong because like every 7fag pretending it's just like RE1, you've never actually played RE1. The argument is done now and your ensuing damage control changes nothing.
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>>733723374
>doesnt bring up my point about the hunters flooding the mansion as "good encounter design" in RE1 or how simple the bosses are
Yup, didn't play RE1 and pretends he did on the internet for gamer cred points
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>>733723581
I've done multiple runs of the original and remake. You've never touched either. You taking shots in the dark doesn't change anything. Combat and encounter design in 7 is shit throughout and it's a moviegame.
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>>733675528
Game isn't perfect but the first time a black mold guy comes out of the wall when you go into the basement is the only time I've felt actual horror playing a game since I was a kid
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>>733722994
>Wrong, and those are cutscenes, not interactive fake gameplay.
...that's worse?
>Show me the map that marks where keys are for a door you found
What do you mean by this? That RE7 points you on a map where you can find the keys like some objective marker? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't.
>>733723374
That video shows gameplay starting at the 5:25 mark.
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>>733723669
>DEmake fag
Opinion immediately discarded
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>>733723736
>skippable cutscenes are worse than moviegame shit
Are you retarded?
>That RE7 points you on a map where you can find the keys like some objective marker? Because I'm pretty sure it doesn't
7 literally tells you where the keys are. You're an idiot with a faulty memory.
>That video shows gameplay starting at the 5:25 mark
I know you're stupid since you think 7 is both good and like 1, but look at the time in the video where the first FMV actually starts. It's also the timecode in the link.
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>>733723828
>DEmake
Not that anyone needed confirmation 7fags are brown kids who shitpost abiut games they don't play, but there it is.
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>>733724021
It tells me everything I need to know about you. The RE1 remake is one of the most overrated remakes of all time and its filled with unnecessary padding and fanfiction bullshit like Lisa Trevor. You dont get to talk about quality if you praise slop like that which trades the atmosphere of the original with haunted house goofery
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>>733694129
Fuck you and every mall santa that looks like you!
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>>733720367
You're too stupid to respond to. I'll instead make it more obvious what I meant. Behind-the-back third person shooters were the trend when RE4 came out. Co-op games were the trend when RE5 came out. Action movie games full of QTEs were the trend when RE6 came out. Retro revivals were the trend when RE7 came out. There's plenty more trends in this series, but that should be enough.
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>>733675528
Almost every Resident Evil game is a good game but a shit resident evil game, no even the first game is safe of this meme
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>>733724161
>The RE1 remake is one of the most overrated remakes
Alright this fag is obviously baiting
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>>733724401
>Behind-the-back third person shooters were the trend when RE4 came out
4 set that trend, it wasn't following them.
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>>733724518
>He's baiting because the remake has awful pacing compared to the original and he said things I didn't like!
Cry
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>>733724845
Lmao the RE1 remake is basically the only good remake of any game ever made, I hope you're baiting because if not you actually have dogshit taste little ganesh
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>>733725054
Yes, good remakes add tons of bullshit to the original that wasnt there and replace the unique look of the mansion in the first game with Dracula looking bullshit with a Mortal Kombat Deception dungeon underneath. Youre just defending it because youre a bitch that appeals to majority opinion and cause
>It le came out 20 years ago, it must be good!
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>>733725243
Thats right saar it a timmy style game not based kino chaddy like when a Chadthan Chadters having chainsaw battle lion style, true kino for real bad boy gamers
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RE7 and 8 are two of my favorite games.

There's a production value to 7 that does a great job telling its story though you need to DLC to experience the most of it.
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>>733679853
Jack is a much bigger thread on Madhouse, Normal is for your first playthrough.
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>>733723934
>skippable cutscenes are worse than moviegame shit
Majority of the cutscenes in RE1 weren't actually skippable. And when playing a game for the first time I will prefer interactive scenes to cutscenes. Hell I don't really see it as that much of a problem on replays.
>I know you're stupid since you think 7 is both good and like 1
You're confusing me with another anon.
>7 literally tells you where the keys are.
The fact that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XY-nj-LWtY exists as a video tells us that no, the game does not do that.
>but look at the time in the video where the first FMV actually starts
So 46 seconds off then? Which still makes 5 minutes an accurate estimation. Seriously I would have assumed that anon was using hyperbole and it was only a minute or so until that video was linked.
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>>733725467
>Devolves into indianbabble when his sacred cow is criticized
Triggered af
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>>733720164
Because its the objective truth.
Or you are even worse,a delusional moron that think the old fixed camera games will return?if true you are even more retarded than actioncucks lmao
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>>733725680
You tell him Gupta the timmys he triggering he not going to liking this ones
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>>733725636
>I will prefer interactive scenes to cutscenes
Stopped reading there. All of your opinions are worthless.
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>>733699937
>first person horror slop
>amnesia
you fuckheads will call everything slop
hopefully you were thinking of the second game, Amnesia: A Machine for Pigs, which was a slopa
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>>733728432
>A Machine for Pigs
It's a good visual novel but a bad game. Still not "slop" which would imply low effort design for mass appeal, which clearly was not the case since everyone hated it.
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>>733712557
fighting nemesis for rewards only really makes sense if you don't care about dying or if you're an advanced player that has cracked the game. in a conventional playthrough with the mindset of this is a survival game I don't want to die it's really not worth the risk or resource investment to fight him. no item is worth repeatedly engaging in the most dangerous encounter in the game.
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>>733728017
>realised your were wrong on a load of shit so you pretended you didn't read it
Interactivity is playing to the medium's strengths. What's the point in playing a game if you insist the story gets told through another medium entirely?
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>>733724518
>>733725054
>>733725467
>>733725942
Hello preddit
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>>733728432
I can understand not liking amnesia but mainly because it's really slow to get going and it falls for the hiding spot meme. RE7 is a bit rough around the edges for the dev's first attempt at "horror enemy you can't just shoot down" but they were smart to not fall for the hiding spot meme and they got much better at the idea with Mr. X and Lady Dimitrescu
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>>733729147
>defending the most reddit game in the series with "lol u reddit"
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>>733729310
amnesia was a niche that was expanded too far. a small 3d adventure game with limited dynamic gameplay shouldn't be the blueprint for larger more capable studios.
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>DEmake is perfect don't you dare to question the narrative!!!
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>>733729843
true in relation to the wave of indie games inspired by Amnesia and Penumbra to an extent
too few of them managed to capture the fell of these two games
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>>733729843
I'm very thankful that larger AAA game devs like the REdevs looked over and decided that horror monsters you couldn't just kill was interesting because it has resulted in the more fun parts of modern RE games. They made sure to make them just sections of their games instead of letting the whole concept take over so it's not like the more conventional approach was completely lost.
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>>733715636
>complete with a re-arrangement of the ending theme song of RE1
RE7 does not end with a re-arrangement of Still Dawn. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>733730497
Another RE engine baby falling for misinformation, kek
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>>733730497
They probably meant the RE1 remake credits music. That one is full of bland orchestral gruel that sounds like most of the music in nu-RE games.
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>>733729859
Saar you a demake timmys, you not playeded the real Resaardent Evil 7's
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>>733724814
It came out after Ratchet and Clank.
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This anti-7 schizo has been here all day? Either a nigger or a mentally ill troon. Government gibs must be at an all time high.
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>>733729009
"Interactivity" without reactivity and player agency isn't real interactivity. It's a movie with button prompts to proceed.
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>>733731073
7schizo got outed for not playing the originals and now he's mad.
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>>733731073
There's been multiple people it's just more convenient for you to pretend like it's all one person so you can shill more efficiently
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Why is 7's DLC so overlooked? Some of the best DLC ever made.
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>>733731073
Some one gene dope this clowns nova 1 gene and cure his mental illness.
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>>733732829
Sir you ones to try it for those clown but know bet to go to it when theys schizo cope
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>>733675528
Jack was pure kino and arguably the best villain in the entire series. The finale feels really lackluster.
Good game though.
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>>733732718
Shit like the Birthday and Ethan Must Die made it look cheap. I agree that the Chris and Joe DLCs are necessary.
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>>733733561
Haha yes, based and welcom to the family pilled, my fellow kinosseur of high quality horror movies!
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>>733733652
He's elevated from being just fun to kino because of this scene
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>>733734059
Yes! A tragic backstory is automatic kino. And it was super immserive in VR because it's like he was talking right to me.
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>>733731601
It's still more interactive that what you're trying to argue is better.
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>>733735294
Fake interactivity is far worse than a short cutscene you can just skip on repeat playthroughs. Only the most profoundly retarded people think long, drawn out interactive cutscenes where you can only do one thing is good. That shit started becoming commonplace in the 7th console gen and it's always been cancer.
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>>733679407
I thought that picking Mia would be too obvious and that the game would give me the true ending if I picked Zoe where you would save both.
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I feel like the family premise was kind of a let down. the mom doesn't get much screen time and the brother is essentially human in the main game, you could have taken him out and put him in a condemned game. really could have used another sibling or twins to round it out.
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>>733736126
I think it might have been too depressing to kill an entire family worth of children. it's probably not a coincidence that the brother was made to be so over the top evil and a bad egg from the start.
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>>733734864
I wouldn't know, I will never wear the VR shit
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Why did they wait till the DLCs to add more than 2 enemy types
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>>733736334
>Mia changed from one of the daughters to the wife of the MC, also not innocent unlike the Bakers
>Grandma changed from an actual grandma to the evil big bad
>All the other cut family members
You may have a point here
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>>733735491
>on repeat playthroughs
See you're already disregarding the game at its best. When it's still new for you. Especially important for horror when first time is already going to be the most impactful. And I already said that it's not that much of a bother. Especially when these games tend to put most of that stuff right at the start so if you really have to you can just load a save afterwards.
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>>733737639
>See you're already disregarding the game at its best.
No. It's an RE game, it's supposed to be heavily built around replayability, not scripted setpieces.
>When it's still new for you. Especially important for horror when first time is already going to be the most impactful.
It was boring as shit the first time through. In fact, it's one of the few RE games I never wanted to replay.
>but it's scary!
That's nice. It's still a shit video game.
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>>733735491
>a short cutscene you can just skip on repeat playthroughs.
You cant skip cutscenes in Resident Evil 1. How many LARPers are in this thread?
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>>733741048
Stupid fucking nigger. Read the thread.
>>733722994
>It sounds to me like you're trying to pretend a 2 minute into scene you can skip in almost every release of RE1
>in almost every release of RE1
Playing any version now, you can skip FMVs.
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>>733737904
>No. It's an RE game, it's supposed to be heavily built around replayability
It's not. Even the classic era was built on things that don't work that well on repeat playthroughs like puzzles and surprise encounters with the zombies. Horror is generally a genre not suited for repeat playthroughs. Fear of the unknown and all that, not much to fear when you know the game already.
>but it's scary!
Yes it's a horror game.
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>>733741643
>It's not. Even the classic era was built on things that don't work that well on repeat playthroughs
You've never played an RE game before 7. I hate you stupid shitskin zoomers so much. Stop arguing about games you don't play. RE was ALWAYS built around replays.
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>>733741396
Not the game as it was originally intended. Kill yourself.
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>>733741693
>like puzzles and surprise encounters with the zombies
It was right there for you to address.
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>>733679407
Zoe should've been the good ending where Ethan lives with his tomboy hick gf in Louisiana and has mold children with her
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>>733722971
they should retcon the ending of village and bring him back his death was fucking retarded and the worst part of that game
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>>733741769
>th-that doesn't count!
You can't read and you're an idiot.
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>>733741963
She should have been the good ending where Ethan stops simping for Mia and RE8 never happens, don't know about all that other shit you said though, Zoe has no chin and your kids would look fucked up.
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>>733742136
There's also a version of the game that has save states instead of requiring to use ink ribbons. The original game should be the baseline and youre a disingenuous faggot cherrypicking revised versions for your argument.
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>>733742192
fuck you she's hotter than mia
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>>733675528
Overrated
People pretend like the introduction is the whole game.
Game becomes a lot worse after you kill Jack and leave the house

>>733689431
Capcom doesn't give a fuck about "critic failure"
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>>733741787
There's nothing to address. Capcom games are designed around multiple playthroughs, especially RE, and denying that means you don't know shit about the series.
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>>733742369
That's a nitpicked low res image where the animation makes her look normal, she's ugly as fuck and so is Mia
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>>733742292
>The original game should be the baseline and youre a disingenuous faggot cherrypicking revised versions for your argument.
>The director's cut they released a year later doesn't count
You got caught with your pants down and now you're trying to frame a version updated by the same team released the following year as some sort of changed remake that pissed on the original vision. You're wrong.
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>>733742632
ugly by RE girl standards but she's kinda cute
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>>733742884
She looks like she stinks real bad
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>>733742973
you're turning her into the hobbit STOP
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>>733742681
You cant skip the in-gamw cutscenes on Directors Cut either you actual retard
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>>733743134
Yes you can, you stupid fucking moron. Why are RE7fags so insistent on arguing about a series they clearly know nothing at all about? 7 is shit and is antithetical to the original games you keep trying to liken it to.
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>>733742576
By which you mean there are unlockable difficulty settings and gimmicks. Which is in itself acknowledging the game itself isn't that replayable as it needs to give you reasons to replay them.

Still no explanation on how puzzles and surprise encounters are supposed to work on repeated playthroughs.
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>>733742526
>People pretend like the introduction is the whole game
I hope not. Prior to the basement, the Mia fight's the only actual thing to look forward to on a replay.
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>>733743803
>By which you mean
There are route splits, multiple endings, grades based on times, unlocks, etc.
>Which is in itself acknowledging the game itself isn't that replayable as it needs to give you reasons to replay them.
>the game trying to get you to replay it is proof that it's not made for replays
This is the dumbest fucking thing I've ever read.
>Still no explanation on how puzzles and surprise encounters are supposed to work on repeated playthroughs.
You're trying to argue a fundamental truth of the series. No one alive (except you) is stupid enough to pretend RE isn't suited for multiple playthroughs. The things you're talking about are part of routing. You need to learn the layout of the mansion, and the best way to take only the key items you need and the weapons you need to progress while making minimal backtrack trips to the item box and making sure characters don't die. Jump scares lose the jump scare factor, but because it's a video game and not a movie the focus is on gameplay and action and you still need to figure out a way around them. You're thinking about it like it's supposed to be a movie, which is fundamentally retarded.
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>>733743803
>actually trying to argue that RE isn't built around repeat playthroughs
7oomers just hit a new level of deluded.
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>tanktop
>jeans
>tennis
>flat like an ironing board
behold our heroines
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>>733744613
>long hair uggo vs. short hair uggo
WHO WILL WIN?
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>>733743772
You can skip the FMV at the beginning, not the numerous other cutscenes in the game. Stop embarrassing yourself retard
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>>733744613
They both got glowups in the end, Mia in RE8, and Zoe in End of Zoe
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>>733745372
>look it up
>realize you can skip the FMV which is explicitly what was said here
>>733722994
>It sounds to me like you're trying to pretend a 2 minute into scene you can skip in almost every release of RE1
>"uh, actually that's not what I was talking about"
You're done. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>733744613
How can characters from previous games be so much more attractive despite coming from inferior systems and technology?
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>>733745694
>You cant skip IN-GAME cutscenes
>"Yes you can you fucking moron"
You've already BTFO yourself. Stop digging your grave even further.
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>>733745548
Still images don't really show how much better Mia looks like in RE8. But moving video really shows how hideous she looks in RE7
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>>733745885
DIOS MIO
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>>733745851
>can't read the reply chain he's jumping into
>BTFO
Illiterate third worlder detected. And learn the difference between in game cutscene and in engine cutscene. In game doesn't mean not an FMV, you dumb monkey. Now fuck off and stop arguing about games you don't play because you want to pretend your shitty streamer bait movie game is actually totally like old RE games.
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>>733745735
Old Capcom wasn't trying to make "realistic" characters they just wanted to make sexy babes. That was during the peak era of jap coomerism.
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>>733746002
>Semantic splitting meltdown
I gave you an out and youre still spilling your spaghetti everywhere. You lost
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>>733746063
Holy fucking reddit. You can't read. You were wrong. You jumped into an argument about the FMV and said you can't skip it. You lose and you're brown. Your favorite games are all shit for retarded brown children.
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>>733746198
You said you could skip in-game cutscenes in the Directors Cut and everyone in the thread saw it. Your little melty isnt going to change anything. End yourself expeditiously, secondary poser
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>>733746041
They didn't really disappoint with RE8 though. Everyone from giant hag to common village peasant girl looks good. Not "I sculpted a perfect anime angel" good, but more like a professional model good.
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>>733746414
>You said you could skip in-game cutscenes
The FMV is an in game cutscene and the replay chain was about that one specifically. You aren't going to use your ESL subhuman powers to worm your way out of this one. You've never even played the fucking game.
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>>733745975
The mold fucked her up
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>>733746563
It's less endearing when they made the rest of the game mostly shit though. I enjoy a lot of RE8 but I also hate a lot of it, but I still think it's better than 7 was.
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>>733746563
They're hot but that game is beyond horrible. They could have been in tons of other entries where their appearance would help.
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>>733749450
7 is beyond horrible with nothing halfway good to redeem it. 8 is trash but with some good moments.



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