I tried to play it again after many years, but my computer crashed five minutes every time after I opened the game

guess i don't get to try

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>They are fixing the combat
Is it still retarded cooldowns that everyone puts on full auto anyway?
Unless they fully revert EoC I have literally no reason to care

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>>733677171
Have they removed the ESG gay poz as well?

Yes. I am unironically starting a RuneScape 3 character today. Not an ironman because I'm not a fucking dumbass.

>>733677171
I still have account from 20 years ago on rs3. No idea what has changed since that time

>>733678154
ironman is good in rs3 though, it's a reasonable amount of grind as opposed to osrs's insane, autistic amount of grind

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>>733678028
I wouldn't bet on it
English leftists are just as rabid as Americans.
Also they'd have to rewrite some of their gay marvel movie plots from scratch to not include them. Doesn't a fucking sheboon take over for Saradomin?

>>733678313
ironman in mmos is a meme and has caused what many call "the great split"

it has divided many mmo communities. mmos are inherently social and ironmen are the scum of the earth.

>>733678409
Ah yes, everyone hiding away in their discords as opposed to being social in game, totally an ironman problem. You're one dumb bitch, you know that?

>>733677171
Only if they remove Negromancy

>>733678609
I don't use Discord.

>>733678639
Necromancy seems kino but it seems like they fumbled it. It probably deserves a rework.

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>>733677171
>Give Runescape 3 another chance
>login to my very low level character from back in 2018
>bank is clogged full of items I don't know the use of
>the UI is still godawful
>still need to navigate menus and submenus for basic things
Yea I'm gonna let it cook for a while longer before jumping in.

Going on a tangent though, read somewhere a while ago that they made a plotwist where it was revealed Raptor, a huge hulking mysterious adventure that fucks shit up, is actually the queen of Varrock? lmao
Stinks of shoehorned woke garbage.

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>>733678339
>Doesn't a fucking sheboon take over for Saradomin?
Oh god! I just looked it up, apparently this thing is Saradomin's daughter.
Holy fuck, all hail Zamorak.

Removing this game from my backlog.

>>733679204
desu rs3 is actually good but you gotta shovel through a lot of shit to get to the diamonds

and yeah, liberalism is going to be death of everything you've ever liked. remember, this stuff is intentional.

>>733677171
I liked playing RuneScape 3, but mostly staying in places that existed in the old RuneScape. In RS3, there are places with a new design language, and they are soulless.

>>733678339
>Also they'd have to rewrite some of their gay marvel movie plots from scratch to not include them.
QRD?
I quit this version of Runescape back in 2011, and I haven't kept up with the lore since then.

Didn't Runescape get sold again not too long ago? What is this, the fifth time? Jagex is just a financial cum dumpster.

>>733677171
no ill stay oldschool

>>733679926
>The characterization for the gods is complete and utter ass
Specially Saradomin, you can tell the devs REALLY wanted the players to hate him, they wrote him like a moron, he's the closest in-game equivalent of christianity so of course he would be targeted by lefty writers.

im not gonna lie with the way you guys are talking about the game you've talked me out of playing rs3. good job....

>>733677171
no, I'll just play osrs.

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>>733677171
>removed microtransactions
lmao

>>733681161
those are clearly not the microtransactions people complain about, which you can see from your screenshot
>Click here to purchase Old School Bonds

>>733680864
Saradomin has been hateable since 2003, you just didn't know because you were an illiterate child.

Reminder: the White Knights literally kidnapped the king of Asgarnia, expelled the black knights (who were not some evil weirdos but a legitimate knightly order of the kingdom), literally the man's own son has had zero contact with his father and is raising an army in burthorpe to overthrow the white knights and get his fuckin dad back.

He's not the god of "good" and never has been, but actively and falsely promotes that idea. His followers actively all other religions and scheme to assert theocratic control of every region they can get under their thumb.

>>733677171
No, I stopped caring about the game after the Fort Forinthry stuff. I was comped for several years and got tired of the neverending cycle of recycled bonus experience events, drip fed content updates, and AFK/mobile gamer pandering.
I read up a bit on the planned updates and they look cool but I've already moved on
>>733678339
Yeah, the quest writing has been kinda weird with virtue signalling the past couple of years. There's a nonbinary butler (this is explicitly mentioned in the quest for...reasons...), consensual necromancy, a female Raptor + model update, and probably other stuff but it's been a while. Kinda felt like Marvel trying to check off every diversity box

What are they changing? I stopped playing RS3 years ago and started on OSRS instead.

>>733681596
Removal of most of MTX. You can still buy bonus XP and cosmetics. You can toggle the cosmetics if you want. They're spending this whole year basically redesigning the whole game to make it more in line with OSRS.

Here's just a few of the things they're doing

- Creating API 3rd party support for a runelite RS3 equivalent
- Complete redesign of the world of RS, removing visual bloat
- Complete overhaul of combat and gear progression
- Construction skill is being revamped to OSRS tier
- Fixes to systems/quests/minigames/xp gain/PVM and Skilling items that were asked years ago
- a lot more

Best to wait until the end of the year to check it out.

>>733681827
>Best to wait until the end of the year to check it out.
Why do you say that?

15 euro bucks a month is too expensive

>>733681990
Because they're basically taking the whole year to revamp the game completely. They've taken great steps already but they're in a growing pains period where they're kinda doing large updates every week and seeing what works and doesn't.

Basically, imagine if CoD or a Gacha game completely abandoned their P2W MTX systems and wanted the players to earn everything in game. It's a pretty big shock and it's going to be difficult because they've spent a decade designing the game around people who throw the wallet to progress.

>>733681596
How the money grind on RS3? that is one aspect of OSRS that i've always hated ,had to resort to RWT

>>733682219
you type like a marketer

>>733681339
I will always complain about them
Jagex used to care about integrity and just because every other MMO does it these days doesn't mean it's okay

"We don't want players to be able to buy their way to success in RuneScape. If we let players start doing this, it devalues RuneScape for others. We feel your status in real-life shouldn't affect your ability to be successful in RuneScape." -Andrew Gower

"We did once consider selling runescape money and items in an online shop on our own site for real cash. However we decided to sacrifice that extra revenue for the good of the game, since we felt it would devalue hard-working players achievements if another player could then just buy their way past them. We don't want rich players to be able to simply buy their way to the top. This is clearly not how the game is meant to be played."
It's even still up on their site.
https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/buyingselling-reminder

>>733682419
Yeah well I've played the game on and off for a while. I'm just saying, they still have a long way to go and you might be better waiting for them to smooth out a lot of stuff. As the other anon said, it's pretty expensive.

>>733678028
You can forcibly turn off everyone else's gay cosmetics and animations
>>733679364
Zamorak is being led by an actual goblina that is somehow stronger than Zemouregal, Bilrach, K'ril, and the furies. Stereotypical strong womyn, meanwhile Adrasteia exists because Saradomin got jungle fever

if runescape 3 is so good why does it only get like 5 videos on youtube a week, lol.

>>733682975
because it's not good and nobody plays it.

>>733682975
if you're not brown or retarded, why are you judging games based on fucking social media metrics?

>>733681990
Cuz skilling pre 70 sucks ass for most skills in rs3 and theyre adding that stuff near the end of the year
Thieving pre lvl 53 is so dogshit the best xp method is to hop worlds to unlock a specific door repeatedly
Also theyre nuking all mtx consumable shit by the end of the year as well

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I really try to avoid "body type A/B" games, a/k/a games made by and for gay transsexual homosexuals

this is the most popular rs3 youtuber

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB_0K5Ma2QM

LOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>733683207
>I can't play a game unless it's popular on Youtube or Twitch
I have despised Jewgex since before you were out of middle school but you are a retarded attention deficit zoomer if you care about that at all

>>733682975
A very small portion of the playerbase (which is already small in itself, being like 1/4 of the OSRS player count) actually plays the game. Everyone else just keeps it open on their phone/second monitor like Cookie Clicker.
They did a data stream a while back and only 25% of active players have a Zuk cape, which is the bare minimum needed for mid/high level combat and trivial to unlock nowadays

>>733684507
>They did a data stream a while back and only 25% of active players have a Zuk cape
Because bossing in this game is gay as fuck
I hate bossing
the game is not fucking designed for bossing like this is fucking world of warcraft

>>733684507
>They did a data stream a while back and only 25% of active players have a Zuk cape
What? You don't even play this game. WAY less than 25% of active players have that.

because wow abilities dont work on a 0.6 second tick system. like is it really that shocking the game basically lost all its players in one update?

>>733684839
uh yeah they work on a 1.5 second tick system. Retard.

>>733684954
you are probably the only rs3 player who even knows this, lol.

>>733685007
literally everyone has played WoW and knows about the cancer that is a gcd

>>733679926
Making the gods actual characters you could interact with was a mistake

>literally everyone has played WoW
I'd rather chew glass than install Blizzslop

>>733684812
42:00 of this video
https://archive.org/details/whos-ready-to-see-some-combat-data-join-thersguy-mod-pigeon-and-rhubarbs-as-they-take-a-deep-dive
25% is a pitifully low number and Necro makes it trivial nowadays. Keep in mind that it's active players only and not the millions of dead accounts.
I unlocked the combined cape a long time ago and somehow only 10% of players have it today. Hard mode is literally the same as normal mode and you can hug the north west rock for the entire thing. Players just suck even with the combat being watered down

>>733685332
Ohhh, I didn't realize the dead game had zuk too. Nevermind I don't care.

i will check out runescape 3 once they do fresh start servers. it's just not fair that people got to skip the game and they get to keep it all. i know people might think this is a bad argument, but here's my point.

i don't think it's a bad thing that all this p2w shit got removed. i think it's a bad thing that we can't have fresh servers to go along with it.

>>733685472
they...they already did that anon. They literally already did that. And you didn't check it out. Don't lie.

>>733685509
okay maybe you just don't understand so i will simplify what i said

I WANT A COMPLETE RESET OF THE GAME. PAYPIGGIES GET THE ROPE.

>>733685659
>I want fresh start servers
they did that and you didn't play
>ok actually I went a complete wipe of the entire game
that's never going to happen
>NO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I DIDN'T SAY WHAT I MEAN!
based functionally illiterate pavement primate

>>733685472
If you play a main, you are a paypiggy regardless of TH or not.

>>733685801
true, but don't irons still have p2w? it seems like it's just an inescapable aspect of rs3 and why nobody wants to play this shit.

>>733686008
Only P2W I can think of with irons is if you pay for a boosting service which is 3rd party, bank space and I guess technically legendary pet even though they're shit 99% of the time.

>>733677797
BO EEHHHHHHHHHHH

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>>733686008
If you do any group content on your iron you aren't a real iron
Either solo it or dont do it at all

>>733678409
it ruined osrs fuck ironmen

>>733687810
if you play a game someone else made you're not a real ironman. Log off quit pretending.

Do spinnies really?

desu i wanna play rs3 but jagex is honestly so fucking incompetent. the fact that people willingly tolerate rs3 is insane

>>733687889
Ironman mode's greatest contribution to runescape was b0aty's one man army series. He laid the groundwork for every ironman progress video that came after him. Even chunk locked ironmen 10 years later emulate his style and copy his catch phrases when they're not even british. The content that came from these series is some of the most autistic, drawn out multi thousand hour grinds ever conceived and they continue to draw people into the game to this day.

But of course, runescape was not meant to be played as ironman, and no amount of QoL can change the brick wall that is every skill after 75 on ironman and the thousands of hours required to first gather the materials. So yeah, totally killed the game.

>>733690837
nobody likes b0aty lol

>>733690869
b0aty saved runescape

>>733690674
I played it for years because I wasn't going to start over in osrs with fresh stats. I mainly played it out of stubborness. Not having runelite hurts a lot but it's otherwise got plenty of charm. You have to enjoy wading through the wiki for hours tho.

>>733690887
again, he's an egotistical asshole. same as faux and all the other osrs streamers.

osrs is a botted astroturfed game and is disrespectful to the gower vision.

>>733691064
oh it's the brighter snores schizo

>>733684507
>only 25% of active players have a Zuk cape
That is an insane amount lol

okay i just started runescape 3 and its stuttering a ton...i thought this was game supposed to run on anything??

>>733691064
so which one do you play?

Brighter Shores or Lost City?

Lost City is almost more cucked. And Bright Shores is hell.

In all fairness, I think it's because Andrew Gower lost his mind due to civilization collapse, not any personal faults.

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Lost City was a good game, it potentially showed us what MMOs CAN be. And Mabinogi.

I don't know if enough Western people played the games to get a grip on this concept though.

>>733691064
Did you meet him at a grocery store and you told him how cool it was to meet him but you didn't want to be a douche and he said "oh, like you're doing right now?"

ok wtf i just started rs3. rs3 is kino this kinda mogs osrs on god for fr no cap. i made a main of course.

>>733693859
>this kinda mogs osrs on god for fr no cap
lol

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>>733685472
Jagex already said that they're not going to do that.
It might get some OSRS players to play, but that isn't extra money for them unless they start another account. There's also no guarantee that they stay. Most people left not when Squeal of Fortune was added, but when EoC was added.
On the other hand, a lot of RS3 players would quit.

>i don't think it's a bad thing that all this p2w shit got removed.
Jagex is still selling BXP lmao
That's how I can tell that most of the people asking for shit like fresh start worlds or a reset didn't even read the MTX announcement

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yo this gameplay is FIRE!

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in game name: i have jorts

>>733694037
they should remove the rest of the mtx stuff

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Pronouns game, into the trash it goes.

>>733694075
To anyone spectating this thread... You think this guy's post is a joke.

But it's not.

You just do this exact webm for 3000 hours straight

>>733681339
>those are clearly not the MTX people complain about
Which is frankly what exposes the whole complaint as bullshit. They want to paint Treasure Hunter as the big bad guy because it can pay out in XP lamps, but the odds are so rare and it takes so much time and money to keep rolling and opening shit that it's completely inefficient compared to actual skilling.

Compared to Bonds, which is consistent access to over 100mil instantly for just $9. Even when it "plummeted" in price, it still stabilized at like, 110mil. No need to roll any dice, just get all the best gear and resources so you can just swipe your card all the way to 120, no fuss no muss. Infinitely worse effect on the game's integrity, but because all the people complaining about shit A) haven't played RS3 in over a decade and have zero context for the XP economy and actual goal of playing the game, and B) likely moved on to OSRS if they continue to care at all, so they have to cope like Bonds are okay lest they admit that Jagex has, by their measure, ruined that game as well.

How much have they removed so far?

Is the combat still gay?

>>733681339
I complained about it. I chose to never play OSRS due to the existence of pay to win (bonds). I only play RSPS when I get the itch, and only ever 06 or older versions, including classic.

i think bonds should be removed from both rs3 and osrs but they never will be because they are free money for jagex.

redditors love bonds. i've never seen a redditor upset about bonds. because redditors actually love mtx, but they won't admit that.

>>733681414
Pretty sure he wasn't hateable back then, not until he actually showed up in the game in 2013. I recall Jagex, according to Mod Jack I think, wanted to make him morally gray instead of being a generic God, but they just ended up making him cruel. They've tried fixing it I guess

I can't really blame him for what the White Knights did though, they were just doing their own thing. King Vallance got sick and stepped back from governing, the White Knights stepped in as the official regency government, and used the time to take down their rival Black Knights. And while the Black Knights were a legitimate knightly order they were still implied to be kind of evil back then, what with being Zamorakians, dealing with black magic, raising Iban, being black. Though I do think it was implied that the White Knights also had some dark secret back then. I think it was supposed to be that they were infiltrated by Mother Mallum and her slugs, before Jagex ultimately decided to just do some pillar smashing and just make the Temple Knights crypto-Zarosian.

>>733695340
>>733681414
how hard was this game using arthurian and baltic myth to gaslight us?

>>733695097
EoC isn't going anywhere but there's a "Legacy Combat" option where you can basically play it like RS2 with no abilities or anything
EoC plays itself anyway with the "Revolution" setting where you just set up your bar and everything automatically triggers for you, you can do most content in the game like this

Both of these features have been in the game for 10+ years by the way

I honestly do believe Dang is our savior.

>>733677171
no, I will never be 8 years old again

just got invited to a clan in free to play when i was at draynor lodestone. this is kinda kino ngl

>>733677171
Long time osrs player here. I want to give rs3 a try but they're still reworking the game all year. I think 2027 is when I'll give it a shot.

I cant wear my capes unless I resub and Im seething seeing them sit in my bank

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Play an RSPS instead.

>>733678409
My buddy is an iron and we do shit together all the time thoughever? Helmies trying to crash me are little faggots of course, but when I'm chatting shit at crab or stars it's not like my fellow mains are all responding either, ironmemes can still be social the issue is the community at a whole being less social because it's inefficient

>>733695580
well then what are they even changing about the combat?

>>733702195
Basically they're wanting to rebalance the combat styles to fix their massive fuckup of having Necromancy shit over the game.
I didn't play much when I last tried the game a few years ago but I recall Ranged being utterly shit to play and being told I needed to spend tens of millions unlocking certain skills for the style to not suck massive dick.

>>733701713
thats not vscape, looks gay

>>733677171
I'm curious why they're going for this. Wasn't their revenue like 50% whales on RS3 and 50% OSRS players?
It's clearly something they really want to do, since the 'poll' that let the players decide only allowed 'yes' votes and was open to every member (e.g. even OSRS members who'd never touched RS3), making it obvious they'd get the necessary 'yes' votes.

>>733701713
>wings
no

>>733677171
I like responsive gameplay tho. When I click to move somewhere I don't want the game to wait 1 or 2 seconds

>>733679926
why the fuck did this get deleted
jannies fucking asleep at the wheel banning random people

>>733707656
I think something's fucked, posts in other threads are getting deleted as well

>>733677797
You have Manual, Auto, or Legacy mode. Legacy is what you want.

>>733707767
But is the DPS actually on par with the abilityslop?
Looks like they fucking raised the cap for Slayer to fucking 120, I'm gonna need a lot of shit dead

>>733694217
I miss having people cry over my dwarf multicannon taking all the kills.

>>733707943
Legacy is exactly what Runescape used to be. But EoC has AoE abilities, so DPS will be better in multi. It's perfectly fine, and in some cases better, to use Legacy. Except for very mechanic heavy bosses because you need to stun them or unstun yourself, but those bosses are all endgame and take a long time to get to.

>>733707943
>Legacy: "Old" Runescape combat where the damage numbers are boosted to compensate for the EoC shit. Numbers are also scaled back to account for the constitution change(HP being 1000 instead of 10, for example).
>Auto/Revolution: Basically what everyone uses. You have abilities on the ability bar and it automatically chooses what's next in the queue and is available. You get to choose which abilities are in this queue(ergo the retarded 5 row monstrosity UIs you see in endgame bossing screenshots) and what types(if they use adrenaline or not).
>Manual: EoC, but not automated.
EoC comes with some shit that's hard to swallow if you're an older RS player, stuff like weapons' attack speed not mattering because you'll mostly be doing nothing but abilities and that's all tied to the global cooldown(so 2h==same ability speed as dual scimitar, and all the 1handers have the same ability speed so unless you want a prayer bonus or crush/stab damage you're stuck with dual battleaxes for rune or whatever's available for your tier elsewhere).
Basically this means you should just get whatever's the highest tier for your weapon class and stick with that unless what you're killing has a damage type weakness for that accuracy boost.
Oh yeah, accuracy. You don't hit 0s anymore and attack/accuracy is basically how much of your max hit you'll be hitting. So say your max hit, governed by strength, is 2500. You'll be hitting that 2500*(Your accuracy) constantly. So if you're 99 strength but 1 attack have fun hitting those 100s.
Also protection prayers don't actually mitigate 100% damage anymore(50%), and defense actually reduces a tiny percentage of damage that adds up eventually.

>>733709645
i used to be annoyed the protection prayers were only 50% but after trying osrs aids bossing on a 600ms tick system I do prefer eoc revo bar combat. If manual wasn't a straight upgrade I wouldn't really mind it at all.

The biggest problem the game has is no questing app on runelite.

>>733712783
>If manual wasn't a straight upgrade
How so? I didn't get far when I played.
>The biggest problem the game has is no questing app on runelite.
My biggest problem is that the game felt like you were walking a world that was temporally out of sync. Putting aside the dead content/newer skilling hubs absolutely shitting over old methods issue I think OSRS has(I haven't played it either) it just feels weird having shit like the Elder God Wars/God Wars 2 laying around near Varrock/Nardah with no buildup or quest requirement to it. Same for that dinosaur island for big game hunter, or all the elite dungeons.
>>733691064
>again, he's an egotistical asshole. same as faux and all the other osrs streamers.
Got any details?

>they're nerfing all training methods that have been abused for years before you even come back
yeah no

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUefZtqlYTw

>>733713168
idk its a powercreep game i liked it.

manual is simply more dps for pushing the exact same buttons as letting it happen automatically but its a pain in the ass.

>>733712783
>The biggest problem the game has is no questing app on runelite.
here is my daily "i fucking hate zoomers, they are so retarded that they ruin everything they get involved with" post.

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>>733713213
>low view channel
>its a random ngiger complainnig about XP rates
does this actually matter? does anyone do thieving for anything but a 99?

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>>733684507
>"trivial to unlock nowadays"
>look inside
>locked behind 100s of hours of grinding
are Runescape players actually brain dead

>>733713669
>>low view channel
but that's literary and figure eight-evly every RS3 channel

I just want plugins. The Runemetrics drop counter is fucking terrible.

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>>733679204
They also remodelled him into a twig so that their obvious retcon would "make sense", as if he wasn't a walking tank for like a decade

>>733677171
my brother told me they are making necromancy skill, so I might check it out once both that is in and the ads are out

>>733677171
I grew out of runescape in 2004

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>>733715528
>my brother told me they are making necromancy skill
is this your brother?

>>733716361
are you telling me the necromancy is playable?

>>733716954
yes, and for over two years

>>733717102
maybe it was something else then because he said something comes out in march? I think he said march. he knows the date that something is coming

>>733715581
are you 54 years old or some shit? what are you doing on here, gramps?

>>733713435
my account is like 21 years old dipshit

>>733685472
>muh fresh
This isn't WoW, retard. There is little to no competition or catching up to do. Just play the game.
>>733707656
/v/ along with /vt/ and /tv/ got worst jannies. They hate everything that isn't culture war or corporate shilling, so they delete based posts.
>>733695097
The combat can be swapped between classic and Diablo-like. EoC gives best DPS but kills meaningful progression and throws stats out of window, while legacy combat is still there but you won't be doing as much dps.

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>>733717289
here

>>733687067
>2005
>guy paid me 50gp to pick flax...EACH
>made 10k in an hour
I was a god

>>733718650
I made millions in middle school just by buying up flax for pennies from everyone and making bowstrings. Slave work but I'd make enough to buy membership each month from other players.

>>733718650
my friend in middle school that got me into rs
on f2p
>bro, come fish raw lobsters on crandor it's so much money!
on mems
>bro, come pick flax it's so much money!
>bro, come craft bowstrings its so much money!
>bro, come cut yews and magics its so much money!
he was kinda right about the last one.

>>733719029
Bowstrings were very profitable but it depended on period when you made them ~2009-2010 I remember prices went to shit due to bots, so it was hard to make any money until prices going up again. Same with bones. Frost dragons being botted was both blessing and curse because it meant cheap bones and easy prayer leveling.

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I don't mind the combat and I don't mind the microtransactions. I stopped playing because the faggot shit started spilling over from OSRS.

>>733721068
The said gay shit started with RS3 as it became more modernized to appeal (((investors))). OSRS got less gay shit because of community intervention.

>>733721068
didnt they literally cancel the pride event last year?

>>733721656
They already added the gay midget permanently outside the barbarian village. The pride event goes on all year now.

>>733721805
really? im not seeing that anywhere

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>>733721656
What about the lesbian thief quest? Or fort forthinry's non binary butler, or Armadyl being a FAAAAAAG

>>733677171
Returned a month and a half ago so I could use my saves up proteans and to speed run some quests for the extra keys. Made millions of xp and speedrun necro to 99 in just a few days.
I am really hyped for the combat rework because i suck ass at pvm but I managed to do some big damage and even do some bosses I couldn't in the beta.

>>733677780
How odd but I've noticed that nu-rs3 makes my gpu run hot despite it being just runescape. I wonder if it's making the whole fucking overworld render at the same time or some shit. I really miss when the can could be run from only an internet browser and not locally

>>733714250
He probably means the boss part?
90 in RS3 is basically 70 in OSRS with all the bonus experience/holiday events.
I saw a streamer get into RS3 and max in around a year because the Christmas event gave so much free experience.

>>733683174
thats 99% of games

>>733679175
I find it okay, kind of overpowered for "early" pvm but it falls somewhat short compared to the other 3 when it comes to pure dps. Still it has some massive sustainability because of the ghost heals and the shield skeleton. Also darkness but you can use it in any class.
Necro is the tankiest class with most long term survivability, it fills a very good niche and it's perfect for pvm training.
I really don't see why would people complain about necro expect that it makes early pvm trivial until you go into max enrage/hard mode bossing.

>>733679364
Zamo has a dyke daughter that replaces him after your character forcefully kicks him out of the world tho
Arma is a faggot
Bandos is a dead nigger that can't breathe
Seren does a woman moment and dooms an entire planet because she had a baby fever
And Zaros has some massive mommy issues mixed with an edgy phase.

>>733722951
If you have an AMD card, update your drivers or load the client in compatibility mode. Something about OpenGL and AMD driver support being fucky in older driver versions

>>733677780
>>733723254
Oops, wrong reply

>>733690837
>Ironman mode's greatest contribution to runescape was b0aty's one man army series. He laid the groundwork for every ironman progress video that came after him.
runeshark did the first ironman series with their godsword set from scratch

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>>733695001
>The odds are so rare
Nigger you are basically guaranteed some sort of skill xp with the keys. Either lamps or stars. Magic paper, springs, cores, feathers and stations are way rarer than xp items. Just by passively getting keys from daily logging, the daily challenges and drops you could get hundreds of thousand of xp every day if there is a multiplier event, and that's passively playing the game. I literally made 2 million bonus xp for invention and archeology during the last week of the christmas event without counting all the drops from the gifts from the event.
Shit was millions of xp each week passively and way fucking more if you actually went out and buy the keys.

>>733722951
Necro was a lot stronger during release but there's been a wave or two of nerfs since then. The Haunted debuff used to double damage (up to a cap) so poison/blood reaver synergy was insane

The last time I played Runescape was like 2011, would I care this?

>>733722569
Christmas event was a blessing because I got free construction XP. I saved millions and even made extra money via random gifts.

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runescape 3 is quite fun so far! i do wish microtransactions didn't exist at all though! they should remove buyable bonus xp and bonds!

>>733726380
>grapes are 6k now
Yeesh, they used to be like 11k.

>>733723634
>Nigger you are basically guaranteed some sort of skill xp with the keys. Either lamps or stars
>or stars
lol
people always complained about direct xp
direct xp means lamps
and if you want to complain about bonus xp, then yeah you'd absolutely need to also complain about bonds
bonus xp just lets you do the leveling faster, but you still need to be able to do the level
no amount of bonus xp will buy you 100mil in supplies needed to do many skills in the first place
but booooooooonds caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

and that's before getting to like
the amount of xp from lamps isn't small small, but it's also like, small
like unless it's the rare giant one, then at most you might be saving yourself like
i dunno, honestly just a few mins of skilling at best
cuz direct xp is just so much worse than skilling + outfits + aura + urns + inventions + summoning + juju + crystalize + jewelry + l + ratio + doing ur mom

>>733722548
it's been doing that for years on every one of my pcs. Something with the new client makes your fans go nuts for no reason.

I always felt like I was tricking the combat system more than I was actually playing it, just gimmick upon gimmick to make sure I dont get one shot killed, just to waste fucking time.

>>733726380
honestly I need them to add questhelper to the base rs3 to play it again. I can deal with everything else vanilla client but I hate quests in runescape so much. I hate the people that fellate the quests too. They require massive grinds to do trivial tasks and often take hours. They're also required and give some of the best gear in the game for absolutely nothing.

>>733727317
Money making is a lot easier in rs3 if you're paying for mems after you unlock priff. Just doing vials and vis wax was like 10m per week baseline.

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>10+ years later
>osrsfags are still screeching about EoC

i genuinely cannot fathom how people play osrs.

the point of a game is fun, right?

i go on osrs and im not having fun, at all.

so why would i play the game?

so i don't! literally doing nothing is more enjoyable than playing osrs.

>>733727770
they could keep some buttons for like, activating potions and some manual abilities that give yourself buffs, maybe keep ultimates too. But the majority of the skills are completely redundant and the game would be better off without them. In essence you only needed the defense abilities, ultimates, and a single melee/range/magic ability for attacking.

Which is easier for endgame bossing? I might instead play a private server but not sure which year. any recommendations?

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>>733727707
>was like 10m per week baseline.
Anon...

>>733729238
in fairness he said just vis wax implying thats not even a big part of his money making
but also i miss when bonds were like 5m and i could just grind ankous/lessers in f2p to get membership

i just really think the remaining MTX elements need to go. i mentioned in an rs3 friends chat, "reddit" that i liked the game but disliked the mtx elements and they called me a troll because the game doesnt have mtx

MTX : Bonds
Buyable "bonus xp stars"
There's probably more I'm not even thinking of

Bonds are very OP and kinda make the game stupid.

>>733677171
Are they making ironman actually not cheesy? I quit when they gave ironmen an unlimited porter for an event.

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>>733706917
>Wasn't their revenue like 50% whales on RS3 and 50% OSRS players?
That might have been true at some point, but over the past year OSRS subs have exploded while RS3's playerbase has essentially never significantly grown outside of COVID. Without looking at any financial numbers I can easily believe that OSRS bonds and subs from accounts that exclusively play OSRS are Jagex's biggest source of income, and definitely a more consistent one than whales bouncing between Treasure Hunter promos.
Because of how Jagex handles subs/accounts so that every OSRS player technically has an RS3 account already, and unique situation with the two games in general, it makes the most sense to try to expand RS3's playerbase by making the game more appealing to OSRS players. It's a huge existing audience who doesn't have to pay for a new sub, they're in the best position to give the game a chance. Even though they're not paying for a new sub, RS3 is still going to have some microtransactions (just not the intrusive degenerate gambling kind) to supplement their income, and if you're not playing OSRS of course Jagex would want you to be playing another one of their games and keeping your sub(s) going.

>>733677171
>now
No
>when they do the next league
Yes

>>733733852
so uh....ironman has been devalued since the inception of seasonal afk slop

you have been able to afk almost all 99s through seasonal slop for the past decade.

until we get true fresh servers basically nothing matters in runescape 3

the game is still fun though. sometimes

>>733733852
>>733734072
if i make an ironman im just not gonna touch anything i think is cheese
otherwise why would i bother playing an ironman?

>>733727770
>>733728072
As an OSRSfag the number 1 thing I miss from the RS3 League is being able to just fucking hotkey your prayer switches
Having to use Fkeys and move your mouse back and forth between the menus and actually playing the game feels so shit by comparison

>>733677171
I'd give it a try if they actually let me play it at the same time as osrs. I don't know why they make you pick and choose one game that you can log into at a time. I'm not paying jagex two membership subs

>>733734347
inshallah brother one day they will make bot worlds and we wont need to press any keys
just sit back and watch our little guy running routines we set up

>>733734287
while this is obviously the solution....it's very very hard when there's a shit ton of it. daily challenges were changed a few years ago to give very powerful rewards such as reaper points, death touched darts, the list goes on

the game got too easy. luckily daily challenges are being removed entirely this year!

>>733729238
RS3's economy is interesting, bonds are ~10x more expensive and so many basic items are completely fucked but the best-in-slot weapons are roughly the same price across both games (~1bil in OSRS vs ~2bil in RS3)

>>733734597
I think it's because RS3, especially the F2P part of it because there's fuck all you can do in it that's actually fun, is an extremely afk'able game and you can end up just queueing actions that take minutes and make a profit out of it without doing anything besides the occasional camera move to avoid getting logged out.
I assumed shit like the portable stations being nuked would kind of fix the economy but now that I think about it I'm not so sure.
Their approach with invention and disassembling components is a nice idea though.

rs3 actually needs a massive f2p overhaul. i think the best solution is obviously to just give them more members content ie making that content free to play. some people suggest making new content outright which is also a good idea. the real solution is to do both.

>>733735010
gave em a taste of member skills at some point
gave em burth and taverly
think they can even go to canfis now
any time they try to update lumbridge its a vile desecration
ashdale island was an absolute joke compared to tutorial island although it does have one of my favorite bits of trivia in that it technically makes the game illegal for children in the uk because they added a toilet

>>733735010
You can add content until it's on par with members and I don't think it would make a difference. To me, early 2010s runescape(when I quit) at its most fun was interacting with people and playing minigames like fist of guthix and stealing creation, haggling with people over dungeoneering effigy assist prices, talking shit in castle wars, barbarian assault and doing skills while chatting with people.
There are barely any players in RS3 outside of
>bots
>people looking for a nostalgia hit/curious about rs3
>uber whales armed to the gills with eyerape cosmetics doing nothing but RP'ing in the grand exchange
>uber sweats either grinding out all 200m exp on all skills in some isolated skilling hub or 4000+++++++ hard mode enrages of bosses.

There's no one to talk to in the majority of the game, f2p or otherwise. And when that happens you begin to realize clicking trees in draynor I mean het's oasis or fishing or divination is inherently boring as fuck and it being a solitary experience adds tenfold to the boredom.

>>733735520
so just like osrs

trust me rs3 players have heard the argument before.

>>733677171
I don't think they're going to get the results they're looking for.

The thing with RS3 is that, at it's core, it's the exact opposite of OSRS, and as such it's not going to be able to bring in those players that they clearly want to. OSRS players are all about the grind, to the point that they actively stick their noses up at content. They're these warped creatures where, if content doesn't reward good XP or materials, then they don't want to do it. If content DOES reward XP, then nerf it, because if the rates are good then people might actually WANT to do the grind and that ruins the integrity of the grind. You literally cannot make them happy with content, they just want more grind, and they want the grind to be tedious so that it has this warped senses of prestige.

RS3, on the other hand, really gutted all of the grind. No one gives a shit unless you're actively going for Lv120 and 200mil XP, which is the only way in which the grind really even exists anymore. In return, the game got a shitton of content that's actually fun to play, and people don't care about "wasted XP" spent on playing for fun because it's otherwise so plentiful that you can just level when you actually feel like doing it and still be able to hit the levels required to do content. Compared to OSRS where you have to really maximize your time if you want to get to the quests and what not. There's also the added effect that: not caring so much about integrity of grinding and drops has also allowed a lot of skills to be revamped or had the ecosystem around them altered to become far more rewarding and profitable.

No amount of changes to the aesthetics and removing MTX is gonna change the fact that RS3 is an actual game instead of a centralized verifier for how long you're willing to spend clicking the same spots on your screen over and over in a pattern.

>>733735850
kinda true, yes OSRS players enjoy the grind. RS3 removed the grind, but also the soul. Its gameplay and story are not good enough to attract players. They are not going to get OSRS players to play it, and they are not going to get people from other MMOs because it is a flat downgrade to them.

Those who want a different experience go to OSRS, those who want a more standard MMO gravitate to entirely different games. I don't think what they want is to cannibalize their own audience and get OSRS people to play RS3. It's never going to happen. They want new people to play RS3, by making the game good instead of bad.

>>733735614
Am I wrong, though? What's there to do combat wise in f2p, three bosses, two with the old style of "just protect against X and bring lots of food" and a third that aims to teach mechanics but is honestly just a chore to do. Out of those three bosses, Mole is the only one that drops anything worth a shit and with the presence of salvage and being able to not only very easily smith rune but are also encouraged to because of the upgrade system there isn't a single decent farmable drop on anything in the f2p monster drop table, with the exception of like grapes from varrock guards or goblins.

Then you have skilling which is all extremely passive and uninvolved. At the most you have 100% stamina mining which is a miniscule exp improvement over the semi afk method and if you really want that exp might as well just go members at that point.
That leaves questing which is a one time thing and also involves sixth age quests sticking out like a tumor plotwise with zero actual prerequisites but is a story followup to like three dozen members quests.
There's then a gazillion abandoned minigames that you can no longer play and no wilderness. You're left with Giant Mole and maybe chasing after that goblin raider boss in the hopes you get a 50 million drop I doubt anyone buys or cares a shit for.

>>733734879
If they do everything they want to do it's still going to take a long time for the economy to get unfucked and stabilize, they're making big changes to every part of the game and (if everything goes well, hopefully) attracting a significant number of new players that the game has not had in years
I'd also be interested in learning how many newer players are Ironmen who are effectively not participating in the economy, the perception that RS3 mains are fucked because of the MTX has definitely led to a lot of people who do try the game going Iron and keeping even more resources out of the economy.

>>733735010
RS3 has done way more for F2P than OSRS has though, hasn't it?
OSRS is getting a new F2P quest and boss this week but the last significant F2P update before that was like 5 years ago
I don't think OSRS F2P has as much content but it benefits from a continuous influx of new players, and the most significant difference is the participation of bots in the economy, which negatively impacts the F2P experience but is a foundational part of the economy ensuring demand for low-level F2P items is always met and prices are kept low.

>>733736173
so add more content lol

>>733734347
yes that and bank presets in rs3 are so superior and convenient they are a reason to play the game alone. skilling is truly heaven in rs3.

rs3 > osrs

So, how's the lore at the moment?
I know nothing more than the fact the edicts are back and the gods fucked off. What now?

>>733740623
queen ellamaria is the raptor

>>733740623
Amascut has chilled out,zemouregal is in jail and bilrach's corpse is possessed by something from erebus

>>733735850
good points. I thought farms were really fun and a big improvement overall.

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>>733740623
Saradomin gave the world to his black daughter

>>733742175
Except the (((Zarosians))) are in her ear all day

>>733742175
Jagex doesn't get credit for all the hot brown women they add to their games.

>>733740623
the age of marvel gods is over, it's now the era of girl bosses

j1mmy friends chat is ignoring me cause i said osrs is monotonous and boring. rs3 chads stay winning.

>>733701713
>huge ass wings
Yes, play a game with gayer cosmetics than RS3. Fucking retard.

rs3 is literally just an objective improvement over osrs.

if you play osrs you basically just hate yourself

>>733743671
Are you going to post one?

im never playing osrs again because of sailing. fuck sailing.

>>733744687
I was but I can't find the cutie from the desert questline

>>733743671
very true, actually
it might also be because they dont really have any closeups of characters faces. Or maybe I'm just weak for brown qts

I started RS3 a few days ago and at this point I'm convinced that no matter what Jagex does most people will never move on from OSRS simply because of the stigma from years ago. I don't think it's within their power to make the game grow as much as OSRS has. As much as I hate to say it I think the only way for RS3 to see much growth anymore would be for a few popular streamers to play it but they would all need to play in slightly different ways; one in legacy, one in full manual, one with partial.

>>733743671
i liked the line of brown girls at the bank in menaphos before they decided it needed to look less segregated and staggered them with the guys from the other counter

>>733745532
every friends chat seethes when i mention rs3. friends chats are shared between games. people get SO MAD when you say rs3 is good lol

doesnt really matter because osrs is botted to hell and back. nostalgia is a hell of a drug

rs3 > osrs

>>733678409
The grand exchange streamlined the game so hard that Ironman is closer to how the game was originally supposed to be played. It’s effectively a single player game either way.

is buying membership with irl money pay to win?

should i grind the gp and buy a bond instead?

or is that also pay to win since bonds are purchased with real money

>>733745874
if you're redeeming them for membership instead of selling them there is no pay to win involved
and you make a venezuelan gold seller cry

>>733745874
>should i grind the gp and buy a bond instead?
In both OSRS and RS3 it's going to take several dozen hours of grinding the best f2p farming methods just for a single bond and that's only 14 days of membership. With enough skill levels 14 days is more than enough time to get another bond so it technically does pay for itself but really the initial hurdle is so stupid that you're better off paying for a single month if you actually enjoy the games because the farming options you have available to you are substantially better than anything f2p can do.

>>733745874
the play is to buy gold with which to buy membership through bonds at like 30% of what they want to charge you for members. In osrs rmt for prayer and cons levels is completely reasonable I did it and it was fantastic. RS3 is funny because you need lvl 96 herblore to even use overloads, and you have to make your own. Meanwhile the most powerful combat pots anyone can use in osrs. I had a lot of fun spamming slayer in BiS gear with super divine pots in osrs.

>>733714437
rs3 is getting plugins later this year.

>>733747042
really? make a thread when they do Imight come back.

okay so after a day of runescape 3 i can safely say i've had a soulless time

everyone i talk to on this game is so fucking retarded and mentally weak

i have had a lesser life experience because of this game.

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>>733745874
>>733746097
Earning a bond in F2P is practically impossible, the very best realistic money makers max out at like 250k/hr tops and all involve absolutely mind-numbing repetitive bot shit. 60 hours of your life is not worth $9.

>>733747985
you do realize this is an rs3 thread right?

osrs is for losers and not the game i was asking for advice on.

>>733747985
>OSRS sees a popularity spike
>third world shitskins absolutely demolish the economy with bots
I really don't understand why more developers don't just completely ban all third world countries. They can't be more than 5% of the game's revenue and that isn't worth making US/EU/JP/CN players quit your game because it becomes impossible to keep up without RMT.

>>733747042
I know, that's why I posted that. I'm looking forward to them.
Now I just need friends to do a group Tileman idea I've been plotting

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still killing goblins

idk when ill get members. i guess after i do all f2p content. i could just get it now but im taking my time

>>733748890
>he's not optimizing by killing something with actually good drops to get some money

>>733749572
its either this or chickens

>>733748302
>They can't be more than 5% of the game's revenue
Over one MILLION (1,000,000) accounts were banned for boting last month ALONE

im still waiting for the blog post that states sailing was just an early april fools joke and is being removed...

>>733751090
what really gets me is that sailing is so much worse than almost every osrs minigame, every rs3 minigame, and its worse than every new rs3 skill that's been added except maybe div. But at least div had a daily activity and you could afk it, hell div was kinda sovl if you're ironmeme.

>>733748890
go kill cows until att & def ~20 and then go hill giants.

>>733752705
att & str ~20*

>>733752562
>sailing is so much worse than almost every osrs minigame, every rs3 minigame, and its worse than every new rs3 skill that's been added
You guys are out of your fucking mind

>>733677171
Why would I bother when I can just play OSRS? Serious question.

>>733723189
whichever jmod took over the story after osborne left did irreperable damage to the lore and characters. that being said no one ever though jagex would remove treasure hunter so maybe the new CEO (who cancelled the gay pride events in OSRS btw) will order extensive retcons

>>733753079
you post here, so you understand being a contrarian right?

>>733753079
cause osrs is for losers

okay ive been playing rs3 for like a day....

this shit is kinda ass if im gonna be honest....

every time i try to play osrs i just have massive ego deaths. my spirit can't take it.

should i just go on over to osrs?

maybe even play both games but keep rs3 on a leash?

>>733755712
The only reason to play OSRS over RS3 is if you're a very social person.

>>733694984
Yes and it is fun if you have the right mindset or autism. No one is pretending it isn't this. I watch videos and other things while playing.

>>733747985
You gotta find some generous wealthy person to give you a bond. Then you can do members moneymaking and sustain yourself indefinitely.

>>733752562
I went for the div pet and it took me until 150m xp and honestly i was really enjoying it by the time it dropped.

>>733677171
hmmm
maybe i'd return it they penalized the whales in some way
like outright bans if enough money was spent
skill resets or permanent titles ("the Whale") if it was a bit less

>>733677171
No, I will keep playing OSRS
RS3 is going to spend the next three years slogging through the process of fixing years of abuse and graphical debt, at which point it might be good
And EoC is still dogshit WoW derivative garbage, limitations breed creativity, and so the OSRS team has become far better at designing mechanically interesting boss encounters.

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>>733757891
you do that.

>>733757891
There isn't a single OSRS boss that is actually interesting. It's fine if you want to continue playing the same game but there's no need to make up bullshit excuses in hopes of having other people validate your decision.

>>733706917
It's been like 80%+ OSRS for years now. It's not a stretch to say that RS3 has been on a slow descent into an ignoble grave, which is why they're trying to do all this and reverse course before it's too late.
Remains to be seen if they manage it. The amount of dev work is going to be insane, because they have just so much shit to sort out, and they also need to be making new content at the same time because reworks, while good for game health as a general rule, aren't as good for player retention as new updates.

>>733758190
There isn't a single MMO boss in general that is interesting.

>>733758234
Not true. There are plenty of bosses in games like TERA and Vindictus that are just straight up better than many of the bosses you find in single player action combat games.

>>733758274
You know what? Fair. I tend to think of more standard MMOs rather than action-lite ones when I say it but those are exceptions. Most of their bosses still boil down to don't stand in red circles and then burst it down when you hit the DPS check phase though.

>>733681827
Paying for bonus exp makes it unplayable. One of the things I really like about OSRS is that if you see someone with a skill cape you know for absolute certain they sucked shit to get it. It is cool to be recognized for having accomplished something and buying faster exp makes that worthless.

>>733681990
They're pushing a ton of bad changes to skills rn, unfortunately.

>>733758406
what?

osrs has bonds

>>733758190
RS3 apologists really just don't understand design principles
I guess that makes sense when they pay real money to not do content, they don't need to care

>>733758487
You still have to do the task. Not half as much because you directly purchased more experience from the game itself instead of following a guide for EXP optimization.

>>733758274
Reasonable opinion.
I still like the OSRS PvM because a lot of the high end stuff basically turns into a rhythm game when you get into the flow state. Throw on some 100bpm music and everything becomes glass.

>>733722951
Necro is game warping for im, hopefully the combat rework fixes this

>>733706917
Osrs averages 270k players now and RuneScape has like 80 million accounts from 20 years ago. Most of the people playing osrs would be playing rs3 if not for eoc.
>>733758230
Honestly the roadmap they came up with focuses on all the right points like cleaning up midgame Skilling and normalizing XP rates. Personally I didn't mind treasure hunter being in the game. But in general you have to remember that rs3 is now very much a game about going to level 120, like 35 mil experience instead of 13. Skilling is way more fun in rs3 solely because of keybinds. The issues of rs3 are also the reason people play it. Like there is mandatory 400 hours minimum of quests, and then multiple abilities requiring 8 hours each in mini games, the need to grind gold, just general RuneScape shit. I honestly think treasure hunter helped ease that burden with bonus XP and lamps. We'll see if they can find a way to crunch the content and catch people up without ruining the game.

But like for someone to catch up to priffindas by taking their time and not RMT could easily take an entire year even if you're playing 8hours a day.

>REEEEEEE OSRS COMBAT BAD I NEED ABILITIES AND HOTBARS IT'S TOO SIMPLE
alright nigga step up and take your shot
https://colosim.com/
you should be able to solve this. it's simple and intuitive, after all - no abilities to manage, no cooldowns to track, no buffs to stack, no adrenaline or mana bar to build or spend
let's see it

i have no interest in ever playing an ironman on either rs3 or osrs

ironman has been so bad for runescape as a whole.

>>733758760
Extremely disingenuous post.

>>733758658
Yeah, they've managed to successfully identify the pain points and design debt pretty well, but there is a LOT to clear up, and I'm not super confident in their ability to do it given previous mismanagement at every level.
I hope I'm eating my words in 2027, I really do, but I don't believe there won't be significant delays.

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just mining some mith ore in varrock!

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>>733718743
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>>733719387
this kinda stuff in mmos was actually fun cause it meant people could find their own niche way of making money even if it was just enough pocket change to get more pots or whatever small thing you always needed

>>733758824
Odd way to admit you can't do it

>>733758942
>graphics set to minimum in RuneScape

>>733758973
my computer stutters if i play above minimum

>>733758760
What's the point in this

>>733759046
It's a simulator for a boss that you fight at the end of a 'mob wave' style minigame. People want to practice without having to go through the waves, so somebody made this.

>>733759046
It's a training tool for a simon says boss so you can learn the dance because practicing it that way is much cheaper than going in and dying repeatedly.

i mean the blackpill is realizing both rs3 and osrs suck. jagex has sucked the soul out of both games in the past 10 years. bonds were really the beginning of the end.

>>733758942
what happened to your hcim

>>733759158
I want to play an MMO and it's either this or WoW.
You can argue that OSRS is soulless until the cows come home, but can you tell me with a straight face that it is more soulless than WoW?

>>733759196
>until the cows come home
funnily enough theyre adding a cow boss to osrs tomorrow

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>>733759158
Nah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCfZJ_l8g0w

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>>733759104
That's actually pretty cool

>>733759193
i deleted it. yes, really. if you don't believe me you can search the name on the hiscores.

>>733677171
i gave it a try a year ago, was fine but i just stayed f2p since it takes like 2 hours to get 60 in everything

>>733759243
good song but doesnt fit runescape

>>733677171
Once the combat changes and daily removal happens I'm going to make an ironman.

>>733759243
Varlamore is fucking peak. They learned every lesson they needed to from the abysmal dogshit launch of Zeah, and turned around to make a 9/10 world expansion.

>>733759339
Try this one on for size
https://youtu.be/LiT7pKxd6M8?si=ns7dAwpUFRGK_-dg

man i remember playing this when i was young
i would fuck up some chickens, that mage tower with the locked up demon, the haunted mansion, the barbarian villiage, and my favorite was the desert town and getting some curved blade, tricking new people to follow you north to pk them, mining gold and making gold bars only to be told you can't do shit with them unless you sub, fishing and cooking em up
it was a good time but looking at this new stuff it doesnt seem so fun

>>733759196
check out swtor and cruise through the solo story stuff

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I'm doing this for the first time and have to be honest.

It mogs every OSRS and RS3 skill combined

>>733761297
>skill that makes every other skill infinitely more enjoyable
>but only after you've already done 99% of the grind

>>733763552
>99%
Getting a skill up to level 74 is only 1% of the way to completion for many skills.

>>733761297
I wish it had more mysteries or puzzles attached to it. Just the excavation and restoration part of the skill is extremely boring.
>>733763830
What gets unlocked at 74?

>>733758760
i beat this on my 3rd attempt. is this a fucking joke?

>>733761297
I'm surprised people like arch so much. The relics themselves are okay, maybe some cool ones will come out with the new expansion. The annoying part is switching back and forth relics if you want to skill or pvm.

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>>733744301
Both of these anons haven't played old 2006 RSPSs before, newfags.