Kolmi died in almost one hit, hard to tell what part of my wand even killed him. Then since I had over 200 health left I decided to try going back up...12 health at the end. Barely, but managed to reach the altar above the mountain and got the toxic gold ending.This game is still unfair cryptic bullshit that I played for over 40 hours for some reasonlater I realized I was 1 orb off from going into new game +
>>733678337i crawled around for 12 hours in the run where i finally managed to kill the boss
Why not go again but pick up that extra orb next time?
>>733678337I've been trying to get a god run started for 3 days I might cheat in edit wands everywhere
>>733678337>200 health>40 hour for first winEntering Mineswelcome anon, nightmare next
How does one beat this game without looking at a guide or trawling through a wiki?
>>733679745Just winning is relatively easily and you really shouldn't need to use a wiki for it. To do the sun quest or similar yeah idk, you're probably not doing it unless you're playing together with more people and sharing progress.
>>733678337congrats! did you Zabito Boga yet?
>>733680032>Just winning is relatively easilyYeah, maybe after like 100 hours.After dying to random shit like a spell refresh that was actually an enemy, or chaotic polymorfine changing some schmuck into Skoude I had enough. Maps and guides for everything!End result is the same, you learn how the game works, just one teaches you a couple of things and costs you a run, and the other gives you all the information.Also learning about the spell wrapping helped, a lot.
>suck at noita for like 50 hours straight>see a bald man play noita>go back to sucking at noita for another 50 hours>the cycle repeats
>>733680565the wiki is required now. when the game was new, it was all about sharing information with each other rather than documenting everything. no one talks about the game now for you to do that
>>733678337are you the one who occasionally posts the NIGGER!!! threads when you lose a run
Noita feels unfinished.You can't see any description or spell stats before buying despite being able to see everything about a wand AND its spells.You can't see the "always casts" spells on wands you hold.Clicking on a wand in the tab menu doesn't switch to it, only the icons in the top left corner actually switch.You can't shift click a spell in one wand to immediately swap it to another, you have to drag it manually.You have to be somewhat precise or you'll throw the spell instead.The statues for damage testing in holy mountains actually have a life stat, and its only 30k.
>>733682543I only whined on /v/ about Noita once, must be a different anon.But nigger indeed.
>>733678337The first time I won this (without mods), I just found a always cast Ground to Sand in the snowy area. Then I immediately tunneled directly to the boss and took him down with my shitty shotgun/bubble gun.
>>733682543he already won https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/714657293/#714657650
>>733678337>>733683362>dont have the crown >dont have the necklace >dont have the ruby for the necklace You didn’t beat shit
>>733679745By not being a wikitard.>>733680032Sun quest is fairly straightforward, but like everything else in the game you'll die a lot.
>read wiki before playing the game>wtf how was I supposed to know anything without using the wikiI don't know. Maybe just simply don't read the wiki??
>>733683868>>don't read the wiki>die to buzzsaw spells>insta die to dragon chomp>die to a mimic>die because you tried kicking a mine (all other explosives up to this point could be safely kicked)>die to alchemist because he redirected your spells back at you>die to an electric wand hidden in a chest underwater>die because you wanted to test out a new wand/spell>die to toothed spider>get lost in toothed spider lair
>>733682658well make your own game, fag
>>733679124>Anon's destructive power caps at city block levelPretty based NGL
>>733684549i learned how to avoid all of these scenarios after the first time they happened. does /v/ still get surprised when his finger gets burned on the stove?
>>733684549If you like watching masochism, a dude named Goragle has a blind Noita playthrough edited down (to several hours) on youtube so you can see what it's like to try and figure things out un-aided. It's do-able for most parts, just extremely autistic and it takes forever.
What do i do once i've beaten the game? There's this whole map but it doesn't seem like i'll find anything other than more enemies to shoot, is there fun stuff to find?
>>733686501There's a shitload. Some of it is fun. But to get everything you might end up in this messed up situation where you're omega powerful and nothing threatens you, and all you have to do is travel through the map for several hours completing a boring fetch quest for the best ending. Except I lied and polymorph still threatens you, and it's basically a one hit kill that can come out of nowhere and wipe out several hours of progress. So a lot of dull, but dangerous, gameplay.
>>733686501Did you really understand anything? Most likely not. What you seek is knowledge. You can accept your ending or persue something greater.
>>733684851Yeah yeah, you sure did big boy.>>733685715>If you like watching masochism, a dude named Goragle has a blind Noita playthrough edited down (to several hours) on youtube so you can see what it's like to try and figure things out un-aided. It's do-able for most parts, just extremely autistic and it takes forever.Sounds like La-Mulana without a guide... Ok probably easier than La-Mulana, but its the same idea. There's also a guy on youtube that did it blind, had to make several notebooks worth of notes to figure it out.
>>733684661Its something a few mods can fix. They just should be in the main game.
>>733679745create your own wiki using a pen and a piece of paper
So what do i do if during the first 3 levels all i get are shit spells that cant make a dent on bosses?
>>733687665Blame yourself instead of the game.
>I walk into a propane tank just as it runs out of its timer and explodes
>>733690125And I had like 260 or more health by snow cave, fuck. After getting acceleratium I even went for the pyramid and first boss orbs.
>>733686501You go to heaven and get polymorphed and one shotted
>>733687665>bosses>implying you go for any boss before kolmiUnironically after beating him he seems easier than most other bosses.>>733687665>So what do i do if during the first 3 levels all i get are shit spells that cant make a dent on bosses?2nd level on the left has an area with better wands and spells. If you can't find anything to craft with even those, then you just suck at wand building. By Hiisii base you should have a basic gatling.
How does spell wrapping actually work?Something like this seems like it would wrap infinitely, but in-game it doesn't seem to behave like that.
>>733678337Good job anon. Now the real fun begins
>>733678337Those who only sip at life drink deeply of death.
>>733690616I don't think it can trigger itself or else it would cast infinite spark bolts
>>733678337>40 hours first winhow long did it take you to get to Hiisi base?
>>733690616wrapping can only pick spells that are already discarded, in the order they were discarded, which means the the spell that caused the wrapping can't pick itself since it is on the "hand" when it is being cast.That double spell wraps and can pick the already discarded spark bolt, but it cannot pick itself, so the second drawing gets wasted.
>>733691379I think at around 3rd-5th run maybe? I've started playing this game on the steam deck, which means no mouse control. It's like playing the game crippled. So that was many hours wasted that I didn't need to waste. Later switched to pc.Also I had a few runs where I could win (I had the wand of swiftness in one of them), but decided to fuck around the world, maybe kill some other bosses before kolmi. Well I fucked around and found out. This time was the same, I didn't go for the normal ending, but decided to go *all the way back up*. I got in lava, got hit with random teleportation, explosions, toxic sludge, etc. So this run could very well have been another loss.If I only focused on going down and zero exploring then I could've probably finished it 10-20 hours earlier.There was also one run that had an "always casts black hole" wand in the first holy mountain for 380 gold. I had 370 gold at that time. It stuck with me.
>>733678337I got to the final boss for the second time last night but didn't want to fight it because I already beat it that way once. Ended up having to dig into the temple of art with an energy orb spell and got killed by mobs...
>>733691510>That double spell wraps and can pick the already discarded spark bolt, but it cannot pick itself, so the second drawing gets wasted.So wrapping can give you 2 cycles per cast before initiating the reload. So in practice (assuming no add manas or speed ups of course) it doubles the dps and mana drain, right?How does the cast delay play into it? Does it get skipped on wrap? I know payloads in triggers skip the delays for everything *in* the payload, but don't skip the mana costs.
>>733692013>Ended up having to dig into the temple of art with an energy orb spell...Did it at least have zero reload time? Or were you digging slowly like a mole?
>>733692079It took around 15-30 minutes. I assumed the devs would have had something in place for players to get back to the top if they went past the portal instead of activating the boss fight.
>>733692029>So wrapping can give you 2 cycles per cast before initiating the reloadIf your wand has only one cast block (everything in the wand gets cast in only one click), then it does, since a single drawing spell at the end is enough to duplicate the casting blocks before triggering the reload.If your wand has 3 casting blocks for example (you need to click 3 times to cast everything in the wand), a single drawing spell at the end of the wand could only wrap back to the first casting block. It can fire 4 times instead of 3.>How does the cast delay play into it? Does it get skipped on wrap?Cast delay triggers on every click, even when reload time does, and you need both of them to cooldown before shooting again. So in the case your wand has more cast delay than reload time (uncommon), the only timer you will feel between casts will be the cast delay one since is longer.
