Be honest, how much of this game's acclaim is based on propaganda? Did it actually save gaming?
considering the home console market in the US was in shambles, to the point of economists claiming that videogames were a "passing fad"yes, it did save gaming
>>733679973I don't know but it's genuinely one of my favorite gamesMario controls like a fat POS in this title but once you have it down the movement feels incredible
>>733680009Pretty impressive that you mentioned the single segment that was feeling a negative impact and then say the entire medium was saved in your next breath.The arcade, console, and home computer markets were fine outside of the US. The arcade and home computer markets were not as negatively impacted as the console market in the US. The medium would have survived just fine.The game itself does many things well, but the propaganda goes well beyond what the game is.
>>733679973fun
>>733679973>Did it actually save gaming?that was more like zelda or metroid because of the MMC1 extending what was able to be done on otherwise lesser hardwaresuper mario bros was just the "killer app" for the nes launch, it was created in the japanese market which wasn't dead, and it was a solid game, but it was sat on before it became relevant to the west
>>733680061This. The physics are satisfying once you get the hang of them. It's also more fun to just romp through on a whim, since it's more "arcadey." 3 and on are more like going on an adventure.
>>733679973Gaming was fine.The "crash" is a meme because it only happened in one country on the planet.That aside, it really is an outstanding game. Try playing some platformers released before super mario - there's some good ones out there, but super mario was absolutely next level shit.
>>733680009>>733680164I sometimes wonder how gaming would have evolved if Nintendo had not "resurrected" the console market, and home computers had remained at the forefront.
>>733681104probably further isolating into multimodal minigames instead of making individual elements of something good enough for a multi hour game
>>733679973What propaganda? You buy console, you get game, game is fun. Nobody had to convince people to like the game.
>>733681790You've seen the propaganda mentioned in the OPs statement and in the first post. The NES did not "save gaming".
You should play Excitebike, Kung Fu and Devil World first to understand just how good Super Mario Bros. actually is. Those games aren't bad but they all serve as prototypes for various ideas that were realized way better in SMB1.
>>733682098i don't know, when you think about it, getting away from the direction europeon gaming was going, it kinda did objectively save the future of gaming
wild a game from 1985 still feels good to play
>>733680164The US is the most important country in the world so a medium getting saved there means it was saved as a whole.
>>733679973>sold a console that pioneered the d-pad and was powerful enough to render more than just static screens>home to the most iconic opening level of all time>Mario's movement and momentum were such a breakthrough innovation that 2D Marios are still based on it todaySaved gaming or not, but it is one of the all-time greats.
>>733683480> most iconic opening level of all timeHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>>733683554Yes, 1-1 is the most iconic opening level of all time, and it's widely considered to be one of the best designed tutorials of all time. I could perhaps see Pac-Man dethroning it but not many others. Megaman X and Doom are two of the few since that even get close.
>>733681104Someone else would have just done what Nintendo did instead. There was a whopping 2 entire years between the gaming industry crash and the NES' release in america
>>733683898Nobody likes Pac-Man
People love big fat italians
>>733679973>GUYS IT IS ACTUALLY PROPAGANDA TO BRAINWASH YOU INTO THINKING SUPER MARIO BROS IS GOOD?I fucking hate you /v/.
>>733685780That's not the OP's position.
>>733680164>The arcade, console, and home computer markets were fine outside of the US.Oh my God, nobody fucking cares outside of the US. The fucking market in Europe virtually didn't exist, stop pretending like it did. You are not a valuable consumer base as far as video games are concerned and you never fucking were. You've been playing games at 50hz for decades. Every time one of you tards brings up outside of the US especially during that era, it makes you sound like the most egotistical and delusional fucks in the entire world and you have the gall, the complete lack of self awareness, to claim that Americans are ignorant.
>>733686167I'm born and raised in south Chicago suburbs, man. Lived here all but one year of my life, and that was in Michigan. Try again.
>>733686889Somehow I doubt that you fucking fruitcake.
>>733679973You know you can just play it, right?
>>733688453SMB1 is too unforgiving for zoomers
>>733687569ok
>>733688765I masturbated to your hand.
>>733682514Gradius came out in 1985 and it's way more impressive than SMB1.
>>733690280>instead of shmup...>what if shmright?!!!ok
>>733680164>outside of the USIrrelevant. Gaming largely didn't exist outside of USA or Japan until the 2000s.
>>733690370Gradius actually has elaborate level design, music and a power up system that aged really well. For 1985 it's fucking amazing. They released Salamander a year later and it's even better. Konami was crazy good back then.
>>733681104>I sometimes wonder how gaming would have evolved if Nintendo had not "resurrected" the console marketJust look at gaming in Europe for your answer.
>>733690565Shitty arcade ports on Micro Computer.
>>733679973This game was fucking mindblowing back in the day. Try playing 50 hours of only pitfall and smurfs on the 2600. Then try SMB.
>>733690280No not really. It's a gay ass schmup designed to eat quarters.
>>733679973>Did it actually save gamingOnly pretentious midwits believe this.
>>733690280As someone who plays a lot of shmups no it definitely is not. SMB1 is a fucking miracle, and it realized some good shit even before shmups did, like shrinking hitboxes smaller than the sprite.
>>733690683>schmupGo home, jeet.
>>733682514>>733690280Space Harrier came out that year too and is better. Now I know DMC1 and Bayonetta 1 made many a gamer hate Space Harrier, but let’s face it: Space Harrier rocks.
The night time levels and giant weird tree levels were kino. Mario has been shit ever since getting rid of night time levels
>>733680164Here's the thing, we're still a pretty important country whether we like it or not so it saving the North American console industry is still a pretty big deal
>>733692920>Space Harrier came out that year too and is betterHow lol
if you were rich at the time it came with a pet robot, a gun, and a few games. it was significant. mario was just known already that's why he became the face of the company
>>733679973Have you even tried playing Atari? Going from Pitfall to Mario was a big deal
>>733679973Play this game after looking up what games came before it. Invented athletic platformers, invented nes and snes.
>>733686167>>733687569>>733689947>wall of text>gay out of nowhereStrongest American /v/ poster everyone.
>>733695172>That>Wall of textMost intelligent European on /v/.
>>733690565>simulators and rtsWouldn't be so bad desu
>>733692968Mario still has night levels tho
>>733679973>Did it actually save gaming?Look it is a genuinely great game and one of the ur-texts of platformer game design (and just good game design practice in general.) That said it saving "gaming" overall is vastly overstated. Mostly because the North American VIDEO GAME crash was a real thing but A: it was entirely an American phenomenon, the rest of the world was unaffected (still the US is a huge market) adn B: back then there was a huge difference between 'video games' - meaning arcade and console games and 'computer games' meaning games for personal computers and computer games kept on trucking just fine during the crash.Still a great game, just saying its impact "saving gaming" is over exaggerated. Plus it's also used to justify a lot of Nintendo's anti-consumer practices but that's a whole other post.
>>733695442Yes ameritranny, we'd all prefer if you kept your seethe to twenty words or less.
>>733696230Otherwise you wouldn't be able to fucking read it apparently.
>>733697929Only took you an hour to type that milquetoast response though.
For the time, it was groundbreaking.>Action games were usually just a few screens, some enemies and a boss>You usually aimed for a high score, but you had an actual objective here, save the princess from Bowser>Instead of four or five screens, you had over 30 levels, including secret areas with coins and powerups, scrolling levels at that>You traveled on land, underground, water and air, each offering a change in the gameplay>You also had the ability to 'fight' back with a weapon, sometimes you could only avoid enemies, even when you're weak, you can still jump on enemies to fight or even hit them from below under a block>Ducking was a mechanic that let you slip through tight spaces with enough speed>Jump momentum really played a key part in the movements, your speed made a big difference in how far you leapt, along with even running over pits in some parts>Getting a super mushroom really showcased how things changed, Mario could break bricks, and ducking made him look smaller than the world he was in, he was also bigger than every other enemy save for Bowser>This wasn't a game you could play through in three-five minutes initially, you could spend half an hour on it and still lose and start over, but the game itself was so fast-paced you didn't mind starting overSide note, Super Mario in SMB was his best look, he literally looked like a guy who could fuck shit up. The crude graphics really played a part in the game's identity, nowadays this sprite would be seen as off-model.
>>733699017Well put. What was really important as well was that SMB1 actually did a lot of those things right. The platforming still feels really good even today, the music is fun to listen to, and the level design complements Mario's moveset which makes your victories feel earned and satisfying. I'd say a lot of SMB1's victories were from its creative decisions as much as its technical ones.
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Why would anyone make this thread? Sounds like ai
>>733700287So yurosissies can talk about their "Zed ecks spectroon" and how yurop would've saved gaming if not for Nintendo.
>>733699927God forbid we talk about video games.
>>733681104It would have been a lot nerdier and a lot better. Nintendo "saved" gaming in the same sense Call of Duty and Fifa did, appealing to normgroids and expanding the market. Tendies will never come to terms with this. That being said, there are a lot of good NES games (and call of duty games for that matter).
>>733693143Better gameplay. I don’t even have to say much more, it’s one of those games where you play it and go>wow this is awesome!Meanwhile you’d play Gradius and go>ahhhhh the game is lagging!Space Harrier? No lag, no frame drops.
No, it almot killed it again, Tendie just love rewriting history, they did the same with SM64/OOT being important when they weren't and were rightfully mocked for being jokes back then
>>733701069Third world cope
>>733679973Your words will fall on deaf ears.You lies will fade into obscurity.Your will be buried among the archives.You will die alone, unloved, and surrounded by nothing but the cold, frigid chill of death.And still you waste your breath peddling nonsense on anonymous message boards out of some obsessive compulsive need for attention and validation.Hope the temporary dopamine hit was worth it, faggot.
>>733699927SMB2u's sprites are just modified versions of SMB3's.
Yes, OP, I also watch GTV Japan, and also saw this vid after the 40th anniversary zelda video.
>>733690771Please adopt a trip just so that's it's easier to filter a tranny
>>733701165You lost zoomtendie. Super mario bros wasn't a big deal back then and neither was the n64 and switch. It didn't save shit because gaming didn't need saving in the first place
>>733701447I disagree.
>>733682514I like shiny graphics, but nailed gameplay is nailed gameplay - and you don't need much CPU power for that.Kinda why games aren't getting significantly better with increased computing power, just prettier (at least until 2015).
>>733679973Genuinely great. Good difficulty and minimal downtime. Third best Mario game of all time, beaten only by SMB2 (J) and Vs. SMB which have better difficulty.
>>733699017Agree with all of this.Put this in the hands of anyone today, and it's going to be the exact same reaction as if it was released yesterday.Somehow timeless, somehow old.
