One week left retailbros
early access in 2 days
>>733686028buy early acess
>>733686028>world of warcraft midnightSounds like a kino mountain dew flavor.
>>733686028>retailconsidering that most folk only play classic, you can bet that the fame will only last about a week. at best
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>>733686028glad I quit this. yes I'm sure I'll be back at some point but for now, I'm glad I'm out.
>>733686028I kinda want to play this but none of my friends are interested and I don't think playing solo would be that fun
>>733686206God do I miss the original Halo 3 game fuel. They brought it back a few years ago I think and I got a bunch of those, but I want more.
>playing that woke trashNever fucking ever.
I'm not trans, mentally ill or a woman. All yours.
I wonder how many old men characters will be forced to pass the torch to their much better and much younger female counterparts this time.
>>733686028sorry charlie, got other appointments
>>7336860282 days left. Fuck playing with the poor "people".
>>733686028How can anyone play this shit after the nigger elf burth lesbian, combat wheelchair, furry lizards and predatory monetization?Do you have any self-respect?
>>733689467People play retail for the gameplay. They just have to drudge through all the gay shit to get to it.
play early to... hit the max level time gates faster
I honesetly rather die than give them money or a second of my life. Those devs are not human.
>>733686028>pay to play a week early>have to wait 3 weeks before any real content is available>play on "real" release date>have to wait 2 weeks before any real content is available
>>733689585aka the mouthbreathing plebs that don't care about consistency, lore and art in the first placeIt pisses me off they're still giving money to this cancerous company but at least the slop eaters are contained in this garbage game I guess
I don't know why I'm here
>preorder midnight>they try to sell me a $160 yearly subscription package before i even leave the page>think i get early access to midnight >oh nonono you had to have bought the $90 goyim paypig fomo edition>get pop ups telling me to upgrade my preorder for $40 every time i log in
>>733689585nope, I tried that with War Within. It was the most boring shit ever. And the quests and dungeons are a major slog. just all around bad
Did this game look decent in beta? Or is it more shadowlands thru TWW garbage?Are we ever getting a Mists quality expansion again
>>733686028i'm playing it this thursday
>>733690036Midnight is the least hyped xpac ever. There is nothing new besides housing.
>>733690086and no one is going to suffer another faerin being an insfferable mary sue while all men continue to be incompetent while all the women are running everything and acting like they are superior. It's really fucking gross
>Housing ruinedSigh
I want to play and raid, but the thought of doing M+ makes me not even want to buy it. It's so boring.
LMAOWoW is so fucking dead and burried you'd have to be mentally deranged absolutely buck broken empty shell of human being to even CONSIDER buying this trash holy fuck the reactions were priceless absolutely DESTROYED the entire fucking game
>>733689743perfect for leveling main and alts.
>>733690374Brother, you need to check stats before talking. You're misinformed. Ask Grok if you don't believe me.
>>733690515If I ask grok I'm sure it will mass report me in to oblivion for being a doubter
>>733690515go fuck yourself retard
>>733686028>housing is the only new feature>3 week wait time before the first season even starts>uggo allied race nobody wanted>new DH spec is more simplistic than some vanilla rotations>replaced blood elf npc voicelines that have been in the game since tbc>xpac takes place in a horde city but everything revolves around alliance characters>more girlboss storylines>great vault, crest upgrading, embellishments, and other dogshit system still in the game>addons restricted for no real reason>classes pruned, some losing abilities they've had for a decade+>baseline UI still giving LUA errors>roadmap already revealed to have nothing significant being added the entire xpac
>>733689743Farm herbs and ore for the first 3 days. Sell the materials to the poors trying to level their crafting professions on the poverty release. Convert gold to bnet balance after.
>>733690816Dont forget>removal of combat addonsDeath knell
>>733686028till the new patch comes out?
>>733690847addons is mentioned in that post
>>733690847That's a good thing though
>>733690816>update that cuts out featuresHow do people still play anything modern blizzard makes?
>>733686028>Pay for early access>still don't feel like playingWhat do you guys recommend I do? I just feel apathetic towards WoW lately.
>>733691046No it isnt. It fucking never was.
>>733691151Uninstall it and dont resub. WoW is gone.
>>733690847This is based but it’s too late now and they just did it so they can make an xbox port.
>>733686028I'll wait until they add it to GamePass.
I'd have more fun separating my pee from my poo
>>733691179>less of a hassle installing and setting up addons>less reliance on addons playing the game for youI can't think of a single negative thing about it
>>733691330it's way harder to set up because instead if importing a single weak aura pack you have to install and set up 5 different addons
>>733691330>hitting install is hardAh, so this is the common WoW player
>>733691330Post IO and logs
>>733691330>less reliance on addons playing the game for youYeah and now the fucking game can play the game for you with the literal ONE BUTTON ROTATION
>>733691359I like watching you suffer while I play without it like a champ
>>733691424kek
>>733691330More addons have been installed since the pre patch than before it. The base UI is so dogshit and lacking key information that players still need to rely on addons. The only thing that changed is we now need a dozen new addons to accomplish was 2 addons where doing before.
>>733691424Vanilla is a better game than retail with less buttons and fewer addons. Retail WoW is bad because of devs making the game for women and furries, not because of less bloated rotations and screens.
>>733691557They should keep making it more and more shitty until you stop using addons all together, addons are a plague upon the game, always have been.
>>733690816>hating on combat addon removalOpinion completely discarded. Anyone who dislikes the addon prune has terrible opinions on videogames.
>>733691680>combat addonI can tell you haven't actually played the prepatch. More UI addons got bricked with this update than combat ones.
>>733691624Vanilla is dogshit and has been dominated by retail for the past 6 years
>>733691715Oh no, I lost my hair when the doctors cured me of cancer!
>>733691626Post logs
>>733686028>xhe plays retail
>>733691680You're a genuine imbecile. Blizzard gutted the game and replaced it with inferior replacements. Even something as basic as an interrupt tracker or keeping track of your raid's cooldowns isn't possible anymore
>>733691767All they did was make their own shitty version of addons that require addons to fix
>ADDONS ARE LE EVIL1000% anyone still saying this shit has not played the pre-patch. The game, especially the UI, is in total chaos right now because of the new API restrictions. Relying on Blizzard to fix issues that players had already been fixing with addons is unsurprisingly not a good idea.
>>733686069>>733686168>paying 60 dollarydoos to play 3 days early and 30daysit's cheaper to buy the fucking xpac and get a normal sub i have other shit to play for 3 days
>>733691873Logging is for faggots, ban that shit too.
>>733692019>play 3 days earlyIt's a full week early this time around
Gamer addiction.
>>733692019Nah, it's great. The servers work perfectly. For TWW, as soon as the poors joined the servers lagged for days
>Vanilla is dogshit and has been dominated by retail for the past 6 years
>>733690816>DH but even more braindead how is it even possible
>>733692270You spend 90% of your time mashing 2 buttons. They intentionally made it a babymode tutorial spec for retail.
>>733691748>Vanilla is dogshit and has been dominated by retail for the past 6 year
Imagine playing anything but pic related.You're literally paying for an inferior product.
>>733693051Forgot pic :)
>>733686028Only thing I'm really looking forward to is Dragonlfight mythic raids becoming soloable.
>>733686028Very happy for you and the other 10 players left on retail wow. Enjoy!
>>733693109I'm still loyal to project epoch and Ross.
>>733690846how fucking brainrotted are you? slave away in a virtual MMO instead of just having a job and making >10x as much?
>>733692019>it's cheaper to buy the fucking xpac and get a normal sub i have other shit to play for 3 daysyou can get the money back with the gold you'd make via the wow token.it's free money, they're waiting for you to take, will you take it? are you man enough to take it?
>>733693273how is epoch? i remember being really excited for it, unfortunately i lost my enjoyment of games before it launched.
>>733693434>you can get the money back (in BlizzardBucks) if you treat the game like a job and goldfarm
>>733693473The software the devs were using to host the servers couldn't handle the amount of players trying to play, ended up crashing over and over again for weeks, devs ended up having the ascension team do the server stuff which made the servers playable for a while but they eventually for a cease a desist letter from blizzard and left the project. Now it's in a kind of limbo state with no players while the ascension devs focus on their retail lite bronze beard server.
>>733686028>retail
>>733691967Yeah, that's the point. Less information makes the game more interesting, fun, and require more skill.
>>733693905Play the game with your eyes closed and tell me how fucking fun it is retard
>>733693492why else would you want EA if not for the monetary advanage of being able to print gold
>>733693662that's fucking awful thats 4 years of work down the drain. jesus. he's basically a real game dev at that point.
>>733693951You really need to play more than one videogame in your life.
>>733694057live service games like wow want you to only play them, which is probably why the playerbase is so insufferable.
>>733694208Yeah, their arguments are so strange. Addons are cheats that Blizzard has allowed. Just like how Chinese students rioted when examiners used metal detectors to remove all electronic devices before a major exam.
>>733693275Maybe you're brain dead. The first few days you can easily make $30+ an hour. Also, imagine thinking I'm giving Blizzard my own money.
>added a button that plays the game for you I don't think that WoW can get lower than this, but I've been saying that for 15 years
>>733694474You will allow mobile players into your raids chud.
Are there any action bar/GCD combat MMOs still thriving outside of WoW and FF14? I really like the combat of both of those games (in their peaks anyways..), but I can't tolerate either for a number of reasons that you don't need me to express.
Imagine ever playing this garbage
Anyone who has ever complained about:>Addons guiding game design>Raid WeakAuras>The game supposedly only making content for the 0.1% Mythic sweaties>Spec gameplay being too complicated and involved>The """""gear treadmill""""">Mythic+ as a core game mechanic>Mythic raiding>The supposed death of the social element in WoW>The very concept of ">retail"is a has-been who stopped playing likely near 10 years ago and still believes their opinion is based on reality rather than being something they made up then convinced themselves was true. They likely have never actually done a Cutting Edge raid, and I have never on 4chan seen one of the people who make these complaints prove that they have Mythic raiding experience, or indeed any experience that they play at even a middling level.If you want to pretend like you have an opinion that matters, try making complaints that people who have relevant informed opinions would make: Terrible story, meaningless world, design paradigm shift to forcing everyone to do mechanics every pull resulting in weak links being deader weight, Turbo Boost being the most hated thing I've ever seen real players react to, or overnerfing of raids resulting in the death of race-to-world-last because the raid is so easy at the end
>>733686028Lmao
>>733694608It's just Mythic+, but Fellowship's gameplay is a very well done ripoff of WoW's with excellent class design. First game like this I've ever seen where DPS actually managed to have shortened queue times because Tank and Healer are fun enough to attract players.
>>733694672>>The """""gear treadmill""""">>Mythic+ as a core game mechanicThese are clearly issues. The last cutting edge I got was tier 1 Dragonflight. After that, the game is a complete waste of time with the gear upgrades and M+. Everything you grind the previous 6 months is completely useless week 1 of the new patch, besides maybe 2 tier pieces and a trinket.
>>733694672M+ was the best thing to happen to the game, absolutely zero reason to do dungeons once you prebis
>>733692010>Classic WoW was announced! Yes! Vanilla was just Retail but without all the modern slop! Retail is fucked!It was a novelty that everyone dropped>TBC and Wrath were the peak of WoW! These are going to blow retail out of the water!TBC and Wrath were so uninteresting and relics of their time, just like Vanilla, that they didn't even bump sub numbers>PrivateAuras, yes! Blizzard is finally cutting down on WeakAuras in raiding for Dragonflight!Dragonflight raids are the most boring shit I've ever played and half the time Blizzard relented and re-allowed addons mid-prog because they made the fights more fun (Fyrakk)>Midnight is killing addons! Yeah! Addons are le evil!I know many, many WoW players and everyone is dooming hard about Midnight because the addon changes ruined class design and fucked everyone's curated UIs. People are talking about the 'ripcord' again like it's ShadowlandsFor the past fucking decade every person who has shit on retail and demanded huge changes or deletions from it has outed themselves as a laughably wrong retard who almost always is some ancient, aged cretin who unsubbed in Cata or MoP and has an opinion less valuable than a mogsmountscheevo casual's.
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>>733694672Those are just the most salient things to grasp at in what is an ever shifting fog of bad game design. I used to think of ways to fix wow but after Legion the game became so completely different from its original vision that there's no point. Every part of it is bad, it's rotten all the way to the core, nothing you could do right now would fix wow besides deleting it and starting again.
>>733694751I tried the beta test of it and it seemed pretty awful. Seems like the playerbase sucks so it's just going to have the same problems as doing m+ in wow, which is basically the worst part of the game. So nah lol
>>733694826>How can we keep people playing without adding any actual content You're a Mark. It's the laziest game design you could imagine.
>>733694826No, it's dogshit. They don't make enough good dungeons to make it interesting. They are just reusing old dungeons now, and they've already re-used all the good ones like 2 times.
>>733686028the fuck is this shit
>>733694923>nothing you could do right now would fix wow besides deleting it and starting againMost of WoW's problems could be fixed if they simply made lego WoW 2.
>>733694971better than one single dungeon added in 12 patches like classic
>>733695030I remember the fun collabs, like Heckler and Koch
>>733695030A shitshow
>>733695075No it isnt
>>733694923>The original vision is lost!you've had unending attempts at Classic WoW, all of which have flopped, to prove that the "original vision" was better and it's not. People have moved on from pre-MoP/pre-WoD design philosophies and they will never care about going back, and if WoW didn't "rot" the way you complain about it would already be dead.>>733694781Every RPG in existence has had character progression as a core feature, which is usually gear progression. I'd ask you what your retarded vision for a replacement to the 'gear treadmill' is but none of you idiots ever have an actual answer.>>733694971>Having fun in repeatable content isn't REAL fununless it's a roguelike, or an ARPG, or a rhythm game, or any game with any replay value ever like Left 4 Dead
buy an ad
take your shilling to resetera
>>733695159>you've had unending attempts at Classic WoW, all of which have flopped, to prove that the "original vision" was better and it's not. People have moved on from pre-MoP/pre-WoD design philosophies and they will never care about going back, and if WoW didn't "rot" the way you complain about it would already be dead.
>>733695159>Every RPG in existence has had character progression as a core feature, which is usually gear progressionOk, I'm not complaining about gear progression. I'm complain because a casual delve you complete in 15 minutes the first day of the new patch can be upgraded to the same level or higher as mythic raid loot that was the best gear in the game a week ago, that took months to grind for. I'm not sure how this is difficult to understand.
>>733691330Those add ons are used in all versions of the game, not just retail, and many of them are no longer being updated properly and no longer function correctly.
>>733695159>you've had unending attempts at Classic WoW, all of which have floppedHahahaha
>>733691557>key information that players still need to rely on addonsHow is this a problem? If every player doesn't have the info, then you balance the PvE so the completion rate is the same, the game is way better since now a higher percentage of the skill is from having the information in your head.
>>733695159>>Having fun in repeatable content isn't REAL funRofl, 5 dungeon in the entire expac cope
>>733690816>>replaced blood elf npc voicelines that have been in the game since tbchttps://www.wowhead.com/sound=314182/vo-120-generic-blood-elf-citizen-a-08-mhere's said replacement
>>733695470Allow me to complete the rest of this conversation!I ask you to explain why trying to design around this anti-addon platitude at the expense of fun is a good idea in a video gameyou say not having weakauras makes fights more funi say that the only time raid design was consistently bad in post-WoD WoW up until now was in Dragonflight, which is the one time they tried to actively fight WeakAurasyou say 'nuh uh'I ask you when the last time you competitively raided WoW was you either say you unsubbed in Cataclysm or you only Heroic raid for AOTC eight weeks into a patchI say why would you comment on raid design when addons in raids only mattered for mythic and that's the only difficulty that would suffer or benefit from your desired changesyou do one of three things:1. Say Fuck Mythic raiding anyway who cares even though you clearly care VERY deeply about it somehow2. Say it's fine because you could totally Mythic raid if you want to you just don't want to but you totally could which means your opinion is valid3. Stop responding entirely
>>733686028I haven't played WoW for years. I'm excited to see the new Silvermoon and Eversong Woods.Also Zul'Aman as a zone is neat.
Feels like half the messages here are genuine bitching and the other half are bots shooting compliments into the void.
>I...I dunno guys...I just think that the only real comments on this thread are the people who quit playing in 2011 but still whine like a spurned lover in every WoW thread ever made...I play WoW because WoW's combat design is great and I can't get what Mythic raiding gives me in other games>I just...maybe the people who aren't attached at the hip to a game they quit playing 10-15 years ago are shills...Midnight looks like festering fucking dogshit in every single way, Blizzard are a bunch of hand-wringing kikes for dropping the patch count to 3 instead of 4 to make you buy expansions more often, and the reason Midnight is so bad is because Blizzard decided to cater to redditors and the people in this thread who, again, haven't played since Obama's first fucking term, none of whom will actually resubscribe to play the things they said they wanted. You may notice that this is similar to when leftists make games appealing to twitter trannies or capitulate to their whining, then their game flops. WoW whiners and twitter trannies are spiritually the same thing: you cry and you cry for bad ideas, then you vanish when you get what you said you wanted.
>>733686028Is Midnight gud? I quit after Legion
>>733698047Not really. If you remember borrowed power systems it's now just a fuck ton of smaller versions of that integrated into every system in the game all with their own daily grinds, that also become irrelevant since each patch has a catchup mechanic.
>>733696563I only have done heroic raiding in the latest expansion, a bit of mythic keys in Shadowlands, and mostly been doing Solo Shuffle PvP, with some battlegrounds, recently.Now you may think being the highest level player is more important, but it's not. It's about the variety of games you played. I play dozens of other games, which take up 75-85% of my gaming time compared to WoW. Battlefield 6, Darktide, Factorio, Helldivers 2, EVE Online, Deep Rock Galactic, Stellaris, Starsector, etc.From my perspective, WoW's addons shit up the gameplay and feel more like cheats. Let's ignore the fact that you are literally downloading custom make scripts for a competitive ranked game that give you a clear advantage. They make it so the average player has less to track in their head and they instead follow instructions on the screen. Players end up making less mistakes, and the gameplay becomes sterile.Compare it to a game like Darktide with no addons, where half the time you don't know what the fuck is going on. Yet in both games you have equal completion rates and difficulty scaling, because in the end devs can just tune basic numbers to make it so the difficulty levels can work for each player group.Factorio has a similar problem with blueprints, but it isn't competitive, it's not an MMO, and people you play with agree to rules. But some faggot can just join you cooperatively, and start placing blueprints they downloaded off the internet, which does everything for them extremely optimal. Requires hardly any problem solving. These fags argue that they are playing the game better because of it, because their numbers are higher and they can make better bases. The game becomes completely sterile. Addon defenders sound exactly like these fags.
>>733698361>Heroic raidingthen you don't get raiding, which is why I find it bizarre that you would clamor for changes that only really affect people running content you don't touch. I have about 15 minutes in EVE Online and I'm about as qualified to demand changes of that game's structure as you are of the raid environment.>Mythic keysWhat does this even mean? Weekly +10s? A full suite of +12s to get to 3k?>My opinion on WoW high level content is relevant even though I don't play it because I play games that aren't WoWUh, no, especially not when other games rarely even attempt to imitate WoW's core gameplay.>Addons feel like cheatsFunctionally, they are. The reason this isn't a problem is because it makes the game more fun, not less. Consider it like this: without addons, a player can only handle...5 mechanics a minute. Random number. With addons, that number increases drastically. Maybe it's 15 mechanics a minute.A boss with 5 mechanics a minute is tuned to take 250 pulls. A boss that has 15 mechanics a minute is also tuned to take 250 pulls. The end goal of a game is to be fun, and addons allow raids that are more fun with more going on. Additionally, for the most part the importance of addons is overblown. For many fights WeakAuras aren't needed, they just reduce the learning curve, which has the same result (addons allow more mechanics + more fun)>The gameplay becomes sterilethis is shit you made up in your head. Addons allow more complex raids and addons allow more complex rotations. I want to point out that the combat and encounter designs are the ONLY reason WoW is still alive at all. TWW class design was fantastic as were the raids.>Darktidethis is apples and oranges, I don't even understand your point.>Addons do everything for youThen where's your CE if addons play the game for you? Should be easy. Same with posting all 95+ parses. Should be just as easy with addons.
>tfw trying to zone into a delve/dungeon in ZA>must have midnight installedso fucking close yet so far, and now there isn't even a dungeon portal for ZA in TBC ghostlands
Anyone that plays the new xpac instead of TBC is an incel.
>>733686028i brought the epic edition because i kneel for my girlboss queen xalatath
>>733686206i can't believe i miss a better time with mountain dew double xpwhere the fuck did it all go so wrong
>>733699043I played TBC when it was originally released and have zero desire to replay it.
>>733698935mazed
>>733686028I knew nothing about it so I went to see the content. lol...
733699165concession accepted
>>733699294>Retarded trannies beg for player housing because XIV has player housing>Blizzard adds player housing and the effort of them doing this results in the most boilerplate expansion ever made>Said trannies will all abandon player housing in 6 months because WoW didn't copy the psychotic housing scarcity that is the reason XIV players obsess over the feature>WoW pissed away an entire expansions feature development budget on a feature that will boil down to a reddit screenshot every month or so
>>733698935>Uh, no, especially not when other games rarely even attempt to imitate WoW's core gameplay.Still applies. Doing heroic raids and low ranking PvP is enough to understand what the true gameplay is. There isn't anything much beyond that but just everything is somewhat faster, and addons telling you more what to do. But playing a variety of other games gives you way more insight into how game mechanics and game theory work.This applies to everything in life. Are you going to trust someone's opinion who drives only a single car, or someone who drives dozens of various cars, including that one single car?> Consider it like this: without addons, a player can only handle...5 mechanics a minute. Random number. With addons, that number increases drastically. Maybe it's 15 mechanics a minute.This is just pointless number goes higher. In Factorio someone can download blueprints and make bases that put out ten times as much resources. You can kill more enemies in FPS games if you download an aimbot. You can find resources faster in looter games if you download Xray mods. Darktide is a perfect comparison because it's a class based game where you level up in gear and have various difficulty levels which offer better rewards. The gameplay loop is extremely similar to WoW. But where it's different is the information given. The game is first person making it extremely hard to get a good perspective, and things aren't visually clear. The UI is very minimal. So you deal with far fewer simultaneous mechanics, the mechanics themselves are simpler, and there's a huge amount of fog of war. The game feels much more dynamic, and players do way more unique actions. It's simply far more fun and immersive. That's what WoW is slowly nudging towards by removing combat addons.>Then where's your CE if addons play the game for you?I'm not going to spend dozens of hours configuring addons and then practicing with them. It's a stupid metagame and not fun.
>>733690374Is that Charlie kirk in the bottom left?
>>733693275He's a turdie. Give him a break
all the classic players enjoy their game so much yet they have all the time to flood every retail thread to claim they are better kek its pitiable don't worry world buffs are up in 8 hours, when your guild boss will give you permission to press 1 button in solved content.
>>733699460>Heroic ranking and low-ranked PVP is enoughWhat the fuck? No, it's not. You could press your buttons at random and be capable enough at your class to handle Heroic raiding. Heroic raiding itself has almost never needed addons. The only notable time that it was needed was Jailer Bombs. The biggest difference between raid designs in Heroic is the color of the arena you're in. Only the last...two? bosses of a given Heroic raid put up a fight and even then they only put up a fight in the first 2 weeks of a patch, which is definitely not what you're doing because that's when CE guilds are fighting it.You are massively overestimating how much you understand WoW given you're playing content Brazilians pug.>This is just pointless number go higher"Pointless number" is mechanics you interact with. That's the game. That's the fun you have interacting with an interactive video gaming experience, retard.>Darktide plays similarly to WoW!hahaha>I could totally Mythic raid if I wanted to I just don't want to but I totally could which means my opinion is validyeah, sure you can man. I mean sure, you haven't tried, and you don't know what it's like, but in your head? Yeah, you think you know you could do it. So your opinion on Mythic raiding is valid. Yeah. In your head, do you picture yourself as a top parser in Mythic? Or like a server-first level raider?
>>733699795You seem to have it in your head that I want to be the top. I just want the game to be fun and fair. It's pretty shitty when I fail mechanics in raids or get wrecked in BGs and every time I'm wondering if it's because my addons aren't providing all the necessary data.Actual top players like Xaryu have come out and said they are happy with the addon purge, and think the game will be more fun and dynamic. > "Pointless number" is mechanics you interact with. That's the game. That's the fun you have interacting with an interactive video gaming experience, retard.You're arguing if there are 15 mechanics it's more fun than 5 if you can make a bunch of UI shit to track it all. That's not the slightest case, and your lack of experience playing other games is the reason you have this extremely warped worldview.Even with the addon purge, WoW still displays a shit ton of information that deteriorates the experience. I remember when you couldn't even see the health number of enemies. That single thing made the gameplay more dynamic, skill/knowledge based, and fun.
>>733699793Watching classic hardcore death compilations is my daily guilty pleasure. Those guys die to the most retarded shit and then have the audacity to mock other people
>>733700056>Not seeing health numbers made the game more dynamic and funalright, you got me bait-kunalmost got me one more time, I was about to write a full reply to that post. showed your hand a bit too much
>>733698935>then you don't get raidingThere should only be a single difficulty of raid, like it was in vanilla, eq, daoc, ao, ac, uo and every other first wave mmo. Fuck off lobby raidfag you are the cancer that killed wow.
>>733698935Christ you're low IQ cattle and don't even realize it at all. Reading this really hurt because I used to be like you until I grew up
>>733686028nobody here plays this censored dei filled garbage go away shill
>addons nuked >classes are in a complete disarray>shit sometimes is just completely nonfunctionalYea whatever lets go.
>>733700692It's sad how you have no comprehension about how game design works because you spent all your time playing a single one.
>>733690816haranir unironically look like gigachads thoughI don't give a fuck about wow lore and base races legit havent been touched since 2006. why can i play a ne warlock and have druid casting animations it looks godawful. and literally all the new races have god tier customization compared to the old still. that meme image of 'haranir is just x race in 2026' is funny because you can literally make them look like other races and it looks updated for night elf, troll, etc.
Where do I apply to get paid by blizzard to shill here?
>>733695159i'm not even reading this thread, really, but it's always a bad sign when you have some nigga desperately replying to multiple posts playing defense.he even has the desperation laughing .gif, lol
>>733699459>Said trannies will all abandon player housing in 6 monthsThey've already abandoned it since it came out 3 months ago. Nobody give a shit about it after the 1000th "Look i made a floating house" post on reddit.
>he boughtedhttps://youtu.be/QKVSzP_sEU8?si=xkVObaSnSqp-0OWj
>>733686028Is monk fun?
>>733686028Who cares about this game. The only thing what matters are Xal'atath's feet
>>733694379Time is money friend
>>733695120you can tell somebody decided>We need to attract more women players!without considering the second-order consequences (not a female strong point).
LA CREATURA
Thinking of buying the specialboy edition but I fear the "you will make money back from farming herbs" is overblown, people love to act like farming tokens is easy and pretend how they make money for gametime just by casually looting mobs
>a half-breed mongrel dwarf is heir to the throne of ironforgesickening
>>733694672I'll bait this bait>addon bossesnot justifiable, they agreed>content for .1%I thought this was the case but they casualized the fuck out of high mythic bosses>treadmillfake boogeyman play on your own speed. games were cooler when gear had more 'value' though i agree>m+it's alright I hate having to do 8 a week though for vault - objectively a shit thing>death of the social elementthis is every mmo as soon as phones reached the third world, we're just old man>retailfine if you don't give a fuck about story, it ended in wotlk anyways. still fun to hit buttons in
>>733692019>he doesn't spend 60 dollars to make gold for 3 days so that he can play the game for free for the next two yearsngmi
>>733706796you have 2 days to learn TradeSkillMaster. once you learn that addon it makes gold for you. just buy things on cheap realm, put in warband bank, sell it on expensive realm
>tfw when I mythic raided as Outlaw and Resto shamMan they really shit on class design and addons huh? Why couldn't they just limit the combat API, why do they have to be so stringent on people customizing their UI???? Why did they have to gut all the classes when class design was the best part of TWW? Outlaw feels so low skill and gay now wtf
>people itt saying removing addons is a bad thingholy fuck you ugly freak bastards
Is WoW worth starting in 2026? The only blizzard game I’ve played is overwatch. It feels weird being 3 when the game came out and always hearing it in media, usually being used when describing basement dwellers, but as someone who is now 25 and literally lives in the basement of my parents home, feel like it would be just sad if I started this game
>>733704635
I think wowo wawa currently is great
>>733686028I took off this Friday, all the way through next week. Gonna play this, RE9 and then next week the new WWE2k26 (if it's any good, reviews pending). Debating on which character I should main. I was going to go in with my DK, but it sounds like they're in a bad state all around (I don't chase the meta, but both Blood and Unholy are fucked right now). Might go with one of my Warriors, I am pretty happy about the transmog change for Fury so that they can use 1h weapons. I also have several Locks to choose from, and Demo is fun right now. My old guild that had been around since vanilla broke apart and went inactive in Dragonflight, so I joined up with some new guys recently, they seem cool.
>>733709091I'm a WoW retailfag, but I have heard that the new player experience right now is completely fucked. The potato did a video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCjFkz3FP3MIt's a fun game, though I imagine it would be very confusing to start out, like any other long running MMO. Now would be a good time to start though, you could probably level up fast enough that you'd be able to start Midnight at launch.
>>733709091I wouldn't recommend retail. Classic maybe, but the world is dead since TBC is out. Spin up a virtual machine and try turtle I guess
>>733710468Ignore classicfags.
>>733710812Undoubtedly a better new player experience for new players, and better experience overall if I'm being honest
>>733686028uncslop
>>733686028Almost rolled human ret for old time's sake then realised they added vulpera and replaced women with fruits
>>733686069>>733686028>no actual content until the 24th of march>even m0 only opens on the 17thgarbageso what is EA actually for
>>733713242>VulperaActually significantly better than the transdragons.
>>733713386And now better than the OC avatar race
>>733713386You're comparing dog shit with horse shit
A return to form
>>733686028>2026>playing wowWhat the fuck are you doing
>world’s most addon-friendly MMO just surpassed 900,000 players with the most critically acclaimed patch in years and a new expansion later this yearWoW doesn’t stand a chance. Everyone who wants addons like bossmod are moving to FFXIV which lets you do anything you want. You can bot every piece of content and goon afterward with lovense integration. WoW is finished.
>>733713703In another timeline, WoW would be an epic that is still playable today with little to no troons or diversity quotas or stagnation.
>>733713767>moving to FFXIVNo one is playing FFXIV either. DT killed the game and there has been no post patches that have given anyone any reason to come back. I sure as hell arent.
>>733689941Microsoft btw
>>733709091WoW is widely regarded as one of the worst games of all time. They replaced some paintings with fruit bowls and one of the employees stole breast milk from the fridge. They also stayed in the Cosby suite which was very insensitive. In general we all hate WoW especially when the jailer got the sigils.
>>733713830This is what WoW players truly want to believe.
>>733713830>>733713767>>733713767>>world’s most addon-friendly MMO just Xiv players don't use addons though, they use 3rd party cheats that do 10x more than a WoW addon ever could and its literally just chreating at this point. Which is sad because the game was actually designed well ans designed to be llayed without such mods....but the xivcheaters cant help themselves!
>>733713952So you’re just mad that all your addons are being removed? XIV players are living the dream while you’re here having to manually press buttons. Imagine paying a monthly fee only to be forced to do more work.
>>733713932I play both games. Both have died for me.>>733713952>addons are cheatsyawn, tired of this stupid ass argument from dumb motherfuckers.
>>733690374Anyone who still didnt left during warlords is a mass of flesh, which is an interchangeable economic unit for low skill labor rather than a human with a soul.Cata was your first call to dip, the point of no return was WoD. If you still play past Draenor your best bet is volunteer work for an animal shelter, as that will be the highest point of your life. Or get a trucker's licence and leave everything behind because you are done.
WoW is right up there with Fallout as a game that you cannot discuss on /v/.
>The new main character is some white trash middle-aged guy who has been living in his mom's trailer for the past 47 years, and hasn't worked in the past ten years after messing up his back. He currently lives on a workman's comp payout of $450 per month, and considers this to be a "sweet deal."
>>733686028Will it be kino?
>housing
>>733714659A return to form, it feels like warcraft again, bla bla pay streamers to make it look relevant for a week.
>>733686028class rework is disgusting.Their mistake letting me test it before addon release, wont buy now.
>>733714659its all been datamined already.They add six artifacts to the sunwell and it shoots out a rainbow beam that closes the void gate, they rename the sunwell to the dawnwell.
wow is now about the 8 cosmic forces:Light and VoidNature and DeathOrder and FelAlliance and HordeFuck...
>>733714296HOTS seems like it was the last little bit of soul Blizzard had left, even if it was MOBA AIDS. Really sad.
>>733714659The story? No, absolute trash. I think as far as the endgame stuff goes, it's been in a really good spot in TWW and that will probably continue in Midnight.
>>733686028im hyped
>>733713359wait wtf really? bro most people are going to drop their sub by that time lmao
>>733715537BFA and Shadowlands tanked the whole setting so hard that a good or interesting story from this team is sincerely not possible. DF and TWW felt like they were going through the motions but don't even matter in the long run- what ACTUALLY happened? A new World Tree (that's not relevant) and Gallywix is dead now, but that's it. They keep pushing Xal into everything (hard) but after Sylvanas it's tough to care about some big evil shadow elf woman with a big evil over-arching plan yet again.
>>733715806>BFA and Shadowlands tanked the whole settingThe setting was raped by the fanservice of tbc and wrath
>>733715806They're trying to soft-retcon Shadowlands, by basically saying: "Titans did it." I'm indifferent on it, like you I think the story is irredeemable due to the problems with the setting. On top of that, DF just blew ass as far as story goes, it was a troon-themed Pixar movie. TWW had some decent zone stories, but the overall story did very little, it began with Xal having the Dark Heart and trying to feed it energy from powerful sources (Dalaran at the start of the expans), and ended with her having the Dark Heart and now planning on feeding it energy from a powerful source (The Sunwell). They destroyed Dalaran... but that's not a good thing, and I'm not sure Blizzshit realizes that yet.Then there are the characters. You have a bunch of womeme, and then Trailer Trash Edition Arator. Also pussified Anduin, wherever he is. It's just not worth even reading the quest text at this point. I still like the game though.
>>733715806I could still tolerate the setting through most of BFA, but man shadowlands really bent it over and fucked it hard
>>733716069>titans did itis that why sylvanas was going on about how the shadowlands existence is "too ordered, too convenient"?
>>733686206remember when this was cheap and you could afford a mountain of soda with the small gibs from your parents?
>>733715806Xal is something between Sylvanas and The Jailer. Worldsoul saga feels like it's Shadowlands all over again but with more useless yapping and elves
>>733713359>>733715803pls understand, they cant overwhelm people with content, they want casuals to enjoy the leveling and housing.
>>733715806I have xal'atath, windrunner, arator, void fatigue and midnight isn't even out yet.
I have zero respect for anyone who still stuck in wow padt-CataGenuine mental illness. Haven't given single cent to blizz for like decade and a half after I saw into what my favorite stupid turned with the dogshit release of Cataclysm and Diablo 3 and it feels GREAT.Perfect fine private servers have existed for decades now and mostly for the good versions of the game too, if you really need to scratch that itch again, just roll on one for a bit and have funWould much rather support Sergey and Chen Lin than giving even an ounce of attention or money to the rotting corpse of "blizzard"
>they nerfed hpalfuck dem n words
>>733716501>private serversmental ilness
>>733696048I did not know that the game could actually get even gayer.
>>733704335Gay.
>>733715136The Fagwell is real? I thought it was shitposting.
>>733717883It's a shitpost
>>733714659I dont even care for this character
>>733715780its like her chest became negative. commiefornia really hates feminine features
>>733686028yooo i can't wait to play the next disneycraft expansion!! holy fuarrrk it's gonna be KINO. Already imagining the kino deep dialouge...
>>733689941I can understand that these jewish tactics are used for gachaslop and other F2P games (they have to make their money back in some way after all), but for a game that is over two decades old, has a base price, expects you to pay for an expansion every other year and comes with a subscription it is kind of ridiculous
>>733716501>muh private serversTranny shit.>Classic/VanillaTranny shit.
Anyone else not feeling it? I typically play every expansion, but The War Within was extremely mid and Midnight looks like more of the same. I would even take Legion 2.0 at this point. Delves are gay and they raped M+.
OBJECTIVE TAKE (IF YOU DO NOT AGREE YOU ARE WRONG):>Despite their story being some of the most boring drivel WoW has had to date, Dragonflight and TWW have had the best gameplay of the franchise.
I refuse to believe anyone on this board willingly plays retail wow and has any interest in this slop other than morbid curiosity. It's like playing the opposite of what people here agree make a good game. An interesting story, immersion, a world that feels alive, meaningful progression, devs that care abour their game etc. All of that Blizzard destroyed over time either due to sheer incompetence or hatred of its fans
>>733696048>MaleTerrible acting.Typical trannies trying to overwrite reality with their insane fantasies.
I was a huge Blizzbuck and even I couldn’t justify sticking around after Sneedolands.
>>733720826wow’s male VAs tend to be decent, unfortunately they get 1/10 the lines compared to cunts like that awful grandma that always does a shitty deep voice
>>733686028gonna do the campaign, make a haranir, do delves, collect some transmogs, try the raid when it opens and then...probably quit
>>733713242for me it’s DH, dracthyr, and evoker, all are dog shit
>>733716494Tell me about it>most of the ingame cutscenes for TWW are "Xalatath says cryptic shit to Alleria and Alleria is pissed off at Xalatath while they both try to one-up each other's knockoff Pixar character acting">the next two expacs are just gonna be way more of this
>>733715806Dragonflight was a literal filler episode but it somehow ended up better than anything else since Legion since there was actual proper lore payoff of the Aspects regaining their power and Dragons no longer at risk of dying out, which was kinda the whole point.No it doesn't mean much outside of DF but it at least had an open and shut plot.
I don’t think I will ever understand the appeal of player housing or why there is always such a huge demand for it.Decorating a virtual Barbie dream house that serves no function other than to AFK inside of is simply gay as fuck.
>>733721557>it somehow ended up better than anything else since LegionA genuine 3/10 story would still be head and shoulders above Battle for Azeroth and Shadolands.
>>733692019I'm doing it to farm ore/herbs during that time to buy enough wow tokens to last me a year or so worth of playtime.
>>733686325>MOP Classic circling the drain>TBCA full of people going "boy, I wish they'd change this mechanic, like what? it's not 2007 anymore"That said, I do know two guys who have already full cleared kara and gruul on 4 characters each first weeklegit addict level
>>733721627It's a hobby thing. Very few people make them just to stand around in them. Most of the time someone just wants to work on a simple and easy project that can yield tangible results. Brain chemistry stuff; you do something that's easy in a virtual medium and it yields a similar (if lesser) feeling to doing that thing in real life.
>>733690148>the final raid boss is just the players sitting on the sidelines with wheelchair Khadgar cheering for Faerin, Alleria, Sylvanas, Vereesa, Calia Menethil, Lilian Voss, Jaina Proudmoore, Moira Thaurissan, Yrel and Lady Liadrin while they take turns punching Turalyon for becoming a light nazi.Girls get it done.
>>733721829mop is chugging along, siege of orgrimmar will give a boost
i really don't understand xalatath>find evil dagger>hey priest i'm evil lolol>she does evil things>i give her a body for some reason>continues to do evil>shows up a few times and twirls her mustache and does evil>omg what is her plan? is she evil?>does more evil>alleria is pissed but the ethereal is like dude trust me >xalatath does more evil>omg whaaat she's evil???
>>733689467They've toned down the furry lizards and the black chick. The predatory monetization are going to the moon thoughSome people still having a shit fit over addons not being able to tell them how to play their class anymore though. UI and addon stuff needs another six months of baking too.
>>733721416>knockoff Pixar character acting"I HATE this. It is so cringe. I want to say that Overwatch's success caused them to lean toward Disney/Pixar animation, but truth be told, you could start seeing it flare up here and there in Mists and Warlords. The "new" in-game character models and animations are also way too Disney-ish compared to before. It did become a lot more prominent after OW though.
>>733719049It's ok. Microsoft saved *giggle* blizzard from evil activision *stiffled laught*
>>733721945The funniest part about Xal is she never even lies, everyone around her is just fucking stupid and never thinks of alternatives to her ideas.
>>733717276>>733720826the worst part is that this VA has a history with WoW, and he's not exactly bad. But he usually does zany and wacky voices like gnomes and goblins, I think. Why they got him to voice the male Blood Elves with the same fucking awful voice and intonation, I'll never know. Seems like a severe miscast more than anything
>it was sneedvanas until they kicked the actual self-insert turbo simp out of the writer team>now its another elf, but purple and with feet instead of midriffAnd now more than half of the faction leaders are women, perhaps I treated Danuser too harshly
>>733722581Anon, it's still Danuser. Sylvanas is coming back this expansion.
>>733721627assuming you play wow, do you engage in anything besides combat? transmog, the story, exploration, achievements?
>earth shattering fart
>>733722581please kill off thrall and replace him with a cunt it would be so funny
>>733721557>but it somehow ended up better than anything else since LegionFuck that shit, TWW is better than DF. Fucking BfA was better than DF, at least in writing.
>>733721945She's charging up a McGuffin to become a Void Lord or something. She keeps feeding it more and more energy.
>>733721627Truly a fascinating idea that people in a roleplaying game would like to roleplay, why doesn't everyone just autistically run instanced content like mythic+ and arenas?
>>733722674Combat and exploration are the only aspects I enjoy to any notable degree.Cosmetics just don’t interest me at all anymore. When I still played retail I felt like I had already unlocked the only cool mounts and never felt compelled to grind new ones they shat out. Dressing up my character bores me too. They overemphasize this shit way too much, vanilla is great because none of that garbage matters.
>>733695392Good, I want addons gone from classic too.
>One week left retailbrosare they finally pulling the plug?
>>733687647retard
>>733722581 the writing is done by committee not the scapegoat dunguser
>>733689043>meanwhile>"one copy of elden ring please"
>>733723121Roleplay out in the world you faggot.I had more fun hanging out in Orgrimmar and Brill back in the day than you ever will in your gay little tranny ERP clubhouse.I have more respect for Goldshire degens than I do for you.
>>733696048>Remove high class elf voices>replace them with turbo gay voice
>>733690374>tfw asmon shit post with musk on twitter>meanwhile we're still herewhat went wrong
>>733721945>>733722107I thought she was going to turn out to be a fallen world soul. It would have explained her disposition. Oh well!>>733723039Doesn't she use it to open the hole in the sky at the start of midnight, and then she discards it on the ground?
>>733720348Legion Remix was the only fun I've had in retail since... Legion ended.
>>733716501>Private serversSo you want me to join a private server to avoid Blizzard practices, but all these servers have p2w garbage tacked on just like Blizzard? That image suits you well you kike faggot.
>>733721627its mostly for trannies and gays
>>733723352stfu faggot
>>733723646Clearly.
>>733686206I miss NE vaginal fluid drink.
>>733723445contrarian final boss I don't even care about housing that much it's just an extra thing to collect stuff for your house, it's such a non issue feature even if you don't care about it, it's just you being a jaded faggot oldtroon
RFK needs to classify Warcraft enjoyment as a mental illness
>>733723596You'd have to be an actual retard to spend money on a private server, I'm guessing you are.
>>733721627The current MMO audience loves them for their erp, and they are the kind of public that buy every random cosmetic in the shop while not being demanding about the proper content
>>733723876>It’s an extra skinner box and cosmetic DLC vector to milk tranny whales withftfyNobody heterosexual ever asked for such a feature and is why it never needed to exist until now. It’s a waste of time.
>>733710468>but the world is deadLol no. I'm leveling a pally right now on the EU PVP server and it's people everywhere. I've not seen so much people in open world since SL's maw.
>>733715780LMAAAAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOFucking blizzdrones stay eating shit
TWW was so bad I'm nostalgic for shadowlands...
>>733724180>core abilities locked to covenants What a truly awful idea. They eventually let you swap freely but I have no idea how such an idea got greenlit to begin with.
>>733724180SL still sucked nevertheless.
>>733723572>fire it up>dragon leader grandma talking to me>delete
>>733724482>but I have no idea how such an idea got greenlit to begin with.First time seeing a mmo company timegate content?
>>733686028They need to update the logo.It's been World of Windrunnercraft since Wrath.
>>733724590Oh yeah, it was garbage but I'm still getting pangs of nostalgia after dealing with xal and alleria>>733724482They wanted player choice to have weight but it doesn't work in a minmax game like wow where if you dont go with the best for your spec you are just fucked.
>>733724782>They wanted player choice to have weight but it doesn't work in a minmax game like wow where if you dont go with the best for your spec you are just fucked.you can pull off balance, but modern WoW cant ever do that.
>>733724664Women’s Council of Peacecraft>>733724782really the game hasn’t been an rpg since dual spec was added in wrath
I'm still on the fence about this expansion. TWW questline was so atrocious and this model of release constant mini-content patches that are ultimately pointless just really rubs me the wrong way.
>>733724645>pick Covenant that is bis for one form of content>forever gimped in other forms unless you want to go through the awful process of swapping again Timegating content is one thing but doing that with spells is absolutely heinous. Having to pick a lane between PvP Raiding or Mythics sucked nuts, the abilities were a huge deal depending on your spec and not just some minor cosmetic thing.
>>733723887Razorfen Kraul?
>>733724872again. mmo company. and one ran by a jew, no less. He doesnt care about the video game. He just cares how money he can get out of you
>>733725092Ragefire Khasm
I'd been wanting housing in WoW since TBC. Now that it's finally here, I don't really care. It's odd. I tooled around with it for a few days before getting to a point where I realized, wait, who am I doing this for? Nobody else is gonna see this. Even if I set my house to open, no one's gonna come in for a look. I have my house in an almost full neighborhood and haven't seen anyone interact with anyone else at all- in fact, I've only seen three other people flying around it ever. "Who is this for?" I wondered. Then just a few days ago Blizzard announced that they're adding Pinterest integration to the housing menu and I finally understood: this feature isn't for PLAYERS. It's meant for SOCIAL MEDIA ENGAGEMENT FARMING. You aren't supposed to interact with others in the game, you're supposed to post your virtual dollhouse online to farm likes and get other people to potentially sign up for WoW to make and post their own virtual dollhouse. VERY debatable if this will attract many new players. But the point stands, player housing isn't part of WoW's meta, it's part of pinterest's (and instagram's, twitter's, etc) engagement meta. In an odd way it's actually much MORE lonely and anti-social and anti-MMO than the Warlords Garrisons. It's all very sad. What was once one of the most anticipated features in this game's history feels less like a true game feature than it does like a desperate attempt to shape WoW to fit better into a newer, social media-integrated, algorithm-obsessed internet environment. The result is that all these neighborhoods feel like ghost-cities, a bunch of empty developments which have no life in them and mean nothing, only existing to make busywork and pad out numbers.
>>733686028>>733689941I can't understand people paying for what is essentially a mobile game disguising itself as a PC game like Retoilet and Diablo 4 Lunatics
>>733725362Told you so.
>>733715059>A return to formI no longer remember which game it was that had all the shills spam this but I still lol when I see it
>>733715780wtf is that?
>>733725517Asscreed Black Fag I think
>>733725621Blood Elf woman tries embracing Horde culture but doesn't have the build for it like most Horde women.
>>733725362I am somewhat baffled that Guild Wars 2 of all games is the MMO that figured out that guilds and communities are important for an MMO, you shouldnt automate every process and you should leave social aspects like finding groups and doing events to the community, not a button you press. If youre in a guild the communal areas of the guild are actually used by people and you have to interact with them for the events. WoW has automated everything to the point where intereacting with other people isnt necessary, the game will do all the legwork of communicating and collaborating for you.Homes could be something interesting if having a home had other shit tied to it, so the neighbourhood would have to interact with eachother if theyre in the area.
>>733725383>game with way more intricate mechanics than its earlier versions is the mobile version!Boomers really tell on themselves
>retoiletNobody cares kek. Classichads run this game.
>>733715780I hate shoulder pads so much in this game, they look ridiculous and clunky.
>>733724837Modern WoW is 100x more balanced than old WoW, and any other MMO around
>>733725737Getting rid of group quests was the beginning of the end.
>>733719049>I can understand that these jewish tactics are used for gachaslop and other F2P games (they have to make their money back in some way after all), but for a game that is over two decades old, has a base price, expects you to pay for an expansion every other year and comes with a subscription it is kind of ridiculousDon't forget MTX on top that occasionally reaches beyond cosmetics into blatant gameplay advantage like the $90 moneysaur.
>>733724014>>It’s an extra skinner box and cosmetic DLC vector to milk tranny whales withI mean you are correct but people did ask for it though, and as long as it isn't forced and mandatory who cares (other than the item shop that comes with it, but WoW got raped by microtransactions like 15 years ago so)
>>733725698Peak performance
>>733690816I expected nothing and yet I am still disappointed. mg this sounds like total abortion
>>733725807said no one ever
Even WoW's porn has gonr downhill pretty badly.
>>733726164Its objectively true trannySorry whatever other MMO you shilled got stomped by WoW
>>733725750fr fr unc can't just diss fire stuff like this!!!!
I’m just playing TBC anni. I’ll probably play Legion Classic whenever that’s a thing too.
>>733726369What's the issue, irrelevant cosmetics? Do you cry this much about PoE too?
>>733721557DF had the right idea but horrible execution. Even fucking Shadowlands had memorable and likable side characters. BFA had some amazing zones and questlines under all that red vs blue bullshit.DF had neither. It was an entire expansion of "content" ranging from forgettably bland to to actively repulsive.
>>733726476>Shadowlands had memorable and likable side charactersname 3
>>733694359yea pushing any serious competition, esports or pvp in a game where the other guy just has 5x the information tracking you do if you don't austically download every addon you can is crazy, but it's not so accepted that people cheat people don't even think about it.
>>733726575Pelagos, Qadarin and Thiernax
>>733726180The amount of porn animations for everything has taken a downward turn in the last few years. A lot of it is probably general economic strain, less money to be spent on smut animation y'know, but I think more and more animators are seeing all the increasing "real ID" and age verification stuff and cashing out before they get forcibly doxxed and their families find out they make money having Chun-Li get gangbanged by rottweilers in blender.
If you're still playing retail you get what you fucking deserve. There's no point to even having this thread.
>>733726197youre retarded
>>733726782>most of the thread is shitting on Retail hard>SHUT IT DOWNyou're not slick, retailet.
>>733726786Nice counteragument axewoundSorry you got btfo
>>733700926>bitter delusional seethingif WoW went back to the good ol days it would die and not even you would go back to play it.>>733700958>bitter seethingyou're obsessed with WoW and you don't even play it, it's pathetic
>>733726768HAHAHAHA
>>733726768bro…
I took off when I read that ion was working for the glowies, that was the final straw for me, I can forgive stealing breastmilk, but some things we have to draw the line on
I liked when Baine came along for the ride in Sneedlands for no reason and spent the whole expac sitting in a corner in the capital citythat was cool
>>733727131he got up to scratch his ass that one time
>>733721934you are right, it's not dead, but it's definitely decliningI honestly would play an accelerated WOD Classic
did heroslop start in WoD or was it MoP
>>733725362>Washed up retard realizes he didn't really want the thing he asked forYou wanted housing in TBC because of its value as social media (which WoW was because no other social media existed)Now you wall-of-text over how housing in Midnight is bad because of its value as social media (which is now off-program because now more popular social media platforms exist)You should reflect on what a waste of air you are and kill yourself before you start wanting something else that sucks and ruining more games.>>733725737>WoW has no social elementGuilds are mandatory for Mythic progression. If you think WoW has no social element, it's because you're personally refusing to interact with it.
>>733727239I /clapped irl
>>733726438>cosmetics are irrelevant take number 243948343This has been a false argument since the 7th generation.I am not even going to bother with you go to Youtube if you want someone to spoonfeed you cattle.
>>733721945My theory is that they wanted sylvanas to be doing this stuff but saw everyone hated her now so went with someone else
>>733727457>but my favorite eceleb said!Kill yourself zoomer
>>733727310WC3
>>733727457They’re irrelevant to anyone that isn’t a loony troony.>OH MY HECKIN YASS KWEEN I JUST UNLOCKED THE TRANS PRIDE PURPLE DILDO DRAGON MOUNT AFTER KICKING MYSELF IN THE NUTS FOR THREE WEEKS STRAIGHT I FEEL SO VALID NOWNobody cares.
>>733727530>>733725750>boomer>zoomerwhich is which you fucking gorilla nigger ?
>>733724180TWW had Undermine, what did Shadowlands have that you are nostalgic for? It was dogshit.
>>733727589Ardenweald and Revendreth
>>733724180>Good dungeons like Priory>Great raids>Excellent class design across the boardI don't know what would justify your post that hasn't been bad in every expansion since BFA except maybe Turbo Boost
>>733727647>the emerald dream but it’s blue and you reincarnate as your fursonagood god I hated that place
>>733726438>Do you cry this much about PoE too?POE is a free game that sustains itself with a season pass subscription model. Diablo 4 is a full-priced game that has a season pass subscription model on top of it because Blizz is just that greedy.
>>733727647Revendreth was the only halfway interesting zone in SL and I still sort of hated it because I'd been wanting a gothic/vampire zone ever since we fought them in the Wrath dungeons, but the overarching lore of that expac is SO bad that it all felt wasted.
>>733721627there is type a autism and type b autism one type likes seeing numbers go up and likes to click a million buttons and the other type likes to collect and build thingsit is common in autism to not understand how the other type of autism operates
>>733725737wrath added so much awful xbox garbage
>>733728118This doesn't make much sense. I DO like progressing and watching numbers go up, and I DO like collecting cool mounts and armor sets to show off to everyone else. But you can't show off your housing to everyone else, they have to make the effort to visit (and don't). That's the issue. (funny enough, acting like autism is a binary thing with set rules is, itself, very autistic)
>>733724180TWW has the best endgame content of any expansion
>>733728206Yeah I wonder what happened to Blizzard around that time for things to end up this wayhmmm
>>733728270You say this for every expansion bro
>>733725737GW2 is the process of automating that shit too
>>733726476i liked the ardenweald until the night queen and elves showed up, fucking hated that gypsy cunt, had to mute my sound whenever she talked, every expansion is awful cunts talking
>>733693273Me too. The serv is dead but still up, I still consider rerolling a hardcore character at some point. One thing is certain: i'll never play on turtle again because fuck their client and the borked leveling with their tents
>>733725737Guilds should be based around classes, e.g., everyone playing a class would belong to a “Warrior’s Guild” or a “Mage’s Guild” that helps you learn your class and unlock skills. The guild system should allow players to easily form parties and go dungeon delving in the game. Raids should be nuked.
>die and go the afterlife>be reborn as a blue greek and lose your individuality>be reborn as a monster or a corpse>be tortured for thousands of years to pay for your sins before being reborn as an ugly vampire and losing your individuality>or be reborn as a furry and lose your individualityjust send me to the maw please
>>733693273I had more fun waiting for Epoch to come out than I did playing Epoch
>>733727131it was embarrassing for both him and thrall who got to follow behind jaina like bitches, and the in df baine gets humiliated more by getting captured by centaurs and saved by a girlboss centaur who teaches him not to be centaur racist
>>733727310wrath/battle for the undercity
So basically the story so far is that the big bad got an uncharged cellphone at the end of DF, got it partially charged at the start of TWW but dropped it on the floor and it took untill the end of TWW for her to take it to the repair shop and get it fixed and fully charged and the start of Midnight is her calling her girlfriends to have a party at her frenenmy's house?
>>733728526any wow plot that has to do with time or different dimensions always makes my interest plummet.
>>733686028I'm good senpai
>>733728526>you were a strong, honorable, noble warrior in life>so it’s the HR Giger skeleton nightmare hell dimension for yougee thanks…
>>733728525i love reading posts this delusionalI like to wonder if the people that post them really believe it would be something anyone would want to play for more than 20 minutes. WoW could announce exactly what they're suggesting today and they still wouldn't re-sub to try it out, much less stick around.
what was the point if bringing Ysera back just to have Merithra become the aspect anyway
>>733728526Whens the retcon?
>>733728837>he doesn't know oh no no no no no
>>733729113Blizzard isn't shutting it down.
>>733729236>Blizzard isn't shutting it down.ahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>733729293two more weeks!
>>733728593>and the in df baine gets humiliated more by getting captured by centaursAgain?
I liked Vyranoth
>>733729339>two more weeks!desperate
>i love reading posts this delusional
>>733686028If you play before m+ is out you're retarded
>>733728342nope just DF and TWW
>>733729475iirc he doesn't get captured. You and Baine go into the bad centuar camp, he finds his dead friend and then you go on a killing spree until you're almost overwhelmed and the other centaur show up to save you.
the /wowg/ trannies have arrived
>>733729293OK retard have fun on retail.
>>733729591you literally get captured, like fade to black you’re in cages
should I buy midnight?
>>733730409If you are actively playing WoW or intending to, then yes.
>>733730409the delves are legitimately fun
>>733731184did they improve them from TWW?
>>733729509Two more weeks
>>733727924Don't forget they also sell full priced expansions complete with various paypig editions as if they were full games in Diablo 4.
sex with Goblin girls
>>733724180Whoa whoa whoa, lets not go crazy here. Nothing in TWW was as bad as The Maw, Covenants, and the lore retcons.
>>733721627Its a woman, basedfaggot and tranny thing. Their new playerbase. Dev time that could have been used on actual content was instead used for this. Game art direction had gone to shit too so its all lite-wonderland-fantasy, contrasts so hard with the lore and with what i imagine warcraft world to be (i grew up with warcraft rts games) thats its sickening to look at. I saw an unskippable ad for this expansion and it traumatized me. Its not for us anymore, hasnt been since legion at least
>>733736853sad part is that this actually makes them lots of easy short term money. those three will spend a lot on cosmetic shit just to show off on social media and their peers. In fact, this entire nightmare of video gaming has been appealing to these same core group.
warcraft and twitch were having some gayass housing contest today
I can't believe how many people still play this game.Holy fuck, how much of a goylem do you have to be to still give Blizz your money?
>>733739531Before I quit, I did buy the mount in your pic. But thats only because it's the most convenient thing to have. A shame that the game is so shit that it was a waste to buy anyway. Oh well, maybe in some fictional future, the game will be like the old WoW and I can make use of my characters again.
>>733686028Finna rape xal
Gay game for gay faggots that suck a million penises an hour.
>>733739730>I did buy the mount in your pic. But thats only because it's the most convenient thing to have.You're a slop guzzler, a soulless fleshgolem, you exist to be taken advantage of, you stand for nothing you never will, save yourself the trouble and KYS ASAP.>Oh well, maybe in some fictional future, the game will be like the old WoW and I can make use of my characters again.HOOOOOOLY COPE
>>733740337I dont care what you think of me. The fact that there's a thread on the forums of people still seething that they missed the buying period keeps me happy.
>>733686028>The absolute state of mageMidnights already hot garbage, I'm sticking with XIV and GW1. No one at blizzard plays the game and their schizophrenic patches prove it.
>>733740508>The fact that there's a thread on the forums of people still seething that they missed the buying periodBragging about wasting money on artificial scarcity on a faggy mmo, that is next level
I bought the expansion but can't even be bothered to play it. Like what is the point, if I wait until the last 1-2 months of the expansion cycle I will be able to speed through the whole thing. The borrowed power feature has become so moronic the best way to play WoW is to not play at all.
>>733741001>just throws money at Blizz for nothingDon't forget to login and buy every store mount available, you can logoff right after!Blizzard needs your sheckels!
>>733741249Mostly I just wanted housing, then realised housing has quite literally 0 gameplay features.
>>733695369This is objectively untrue though; the very best gear you can get from delves is heroic gear; and that's only once per week and not available at the start of a patchNot to mention this gear is entirely random and outside of a few fringe examples just objectively worse than raid or M+ gear because the most powerful trinkets and weapons come from those>>733714529I really don't understand the complaint - if they made him look like a generic blood elf people would complain because it's played out and boring, they decided to make him look someone masculine and distinct and people still complain
>>733690374Trvke obliterated all retail players into dust
>>733741763>>733695369>Wah wah why is gear so pointless!?Because its a timegate for a sub based game? Duh.
>>733695159>you've had unending attempts at Classic WoW, all of which have floppedClassic and SoD were hugely successful, some of the most successful 'new' MMO launches ever. The fact they ended doesn't mean they failed, it just means the people who play them know when to stop.
>>733741001There's no borrowed power, but I feel you; there's nothing to the expansion but meh.
>>733707812This didn't have for war within EA and won't happen nowIf you really wanted to make gold you'd have come back with the housing update; people have made millions from the more difficult to obtain decor items
>>733741869Retail and classic will both kneel when lego WoW 2 launches.
>>733741452>then realised housing has quite literally 0 gameplay features.It's boring yea but if they gave it gameplay utility, players would moan that it was another WoD Garrison situation.
>>733742810>that it was another WoD Garrison situation.but that was housing done right? Why not
>>733742810No as in you physically cannot do anything in a house. You can't craft, you can't interact with any objects, there is no reason for anyone to make one or go inside one.
>>733742895>but that was housing done right?No? It became a daily grind and a place where players spent most of their time, leaving the world empty.
>>733743130>No you can't let people create a blacksmith where they could interact outside to craft that would BREAK the GAME>Have to walk into some fucking city somewhere and run up to an anvilYou're a retard. Stop posting.
>>733743130But it was still housing done right. Garrisons was housing for men. Not this second life shit we got right now.
>>733743198>But it was still housing done right.I've lived long enough to see people defending garrisons, what a horrible world
>>733743198>>733743130>Housing is either Garrisons or NothingYou people have lower creativity than Blizzard and that's saying something.
>>733743304who the fuck complains about garrisons? They were pretty damn good. I wish they stayed around longer
>>733743392I mean I'd take the class guilds from Legion, too, but that was wasted potential as well
>>733709091honestly, at this point the best thing is to just fire up a private server like Epoch, it will give you a much better experience than "Official" servers, if you can believe that and it's free so you have nothing to lose
I made a sweet fucking tavern but no one will ever see it. I hope there's atleast house contests or something
>>733744282i got an ad for zillow warcraft
Literally all I want is for Heroic World tier to come to the main game.That's it. I do not care about anything else.
>>733744982>A campaign experience that is challenging >That requires people to group up Will never happen.
>>733741452It's the same with housing in FF14 but that's still very popular.
>>733746532FF14 housing is popular however because it is easy to get into with extensive options. WoWs is insanely tedious, and massively grindy. If you're going to make it hard you also have to make it useful or at least popular (reasons for players to even bother viewing it). Cosmetics/mounts work because people are forced to see it in content. Housing is just this black hole where only you see it, and there is no reason or situation when anyone else will. They didn't even have the foresight to include ANY type of content within neighborhoods, and what little does take place is around the town center. Even something as small as an infestation in or around player housing would at least mean people bother to go around the map.
>>733747076Those last 2 points directly corelate to FF14's housing. Neighbourhoods in WoW are instanced and placed the exact same way as 14, and WoW actually does have at least one quest every day to get some item or another. There's just as much reason to afk in a housing district in FF14 as there is in WoW except in WoW you can have a district that's entirely for your guild and in FF14 you have a "guild" house, but you can have multiple houses so you can have a regular house in a populated district in wow on top of a district specifically for your guild.You have a point with the housing items but I for one encourage WoW to invest more side-stuff into the game to encourage you to actually PLAY the game. I'm pretty sure the only way to get housing items in FF14 is to directly craft them (which you can do in wow) or buy them with real money.
>>733743425>who the fuck complains about garrisons?Do you work for Blizzard or something? LITERALLY EVERYONE HATES GARRISONS RETARD
>>733747565furniture drops from dungeons
>>733747593Ive never heard anyone say they hated garrison. Only WoD for failing to meet expectations.
>>733747661>furniture drops from dungeonsnta but LOL Im so glad I dont play this game anymore
>>733747565What the fuck is this shit doing in WarcraftIt should only have been allowed if players can raid and pillage houses
>>733747898And rape!
Will the last titan or the xpac after be the one to add WoW on consoles, and after that how long until retail is on phones?
>>733689941>he preordered
>>733689743I'm not in college anymore and can't no-life level in a day. I play after work and after the kids are in bed. Blizzard, correctly, knows this about its audience and gives you time to level.
