What is your honest opinion on this cat sexo game?
Good until the end where the RNG becomes so cancerous that runs are not in any way determined by skill.
played a bit, gonna wait for the console port
>>733689039Act 3 is kind of annoying, especially since just progressing in first area requires doing extra bosses of both Acts 1 and 2. Not because those bosses would be especially hard, but because THEY WON'T FUCKING SHOW UP, and even then you have to wait like week for them get to your house.
Infantile reddit humor
>>733689216How do you know what reddit users like?
someone call sega
So how long until it's banned in Germany?
I feel like the RNG is so intense you lose a lot of agency as a player. Just had a run where the weather decided to put everything on fire in Act 1 so the rat boss just blew everything up, nothing you can really do.
>>733689236Because half of 4chan are redditors
>>733689270that is actually intellectual property of christina chandler and her series Sonichu
I only like Asian cat sexo games
Cats
>>733689446I look like this
Absolutely bodied the quest to unlock The Infinite, God I love familiarsAnything I should know or bring before I go in?
>>733689427>generic bitch with cat earsmiss me with that shit
>Druid too fat to fit in wall and gets depression>Mini-Me>Mini-Me's crow literally cant fucking move and has negative manaRun over?
The Act 3 random spells antenna quest killed my interest in this game. Two runs and four hours of my time completely down the pisser because you just get fucked by RNG. And there goes all of your items and metaprogression too.I am honestly kind of done with this game at this point. It is a game that entirely lives or dies on RNG and how willing you are to stomach runs being just randomly tossed into the garbage. It's a game that is more than happy to waste your time.Isaac was much more manageable than this game and nearly all the RNG in that game could be wrangled in some way to your benefit. And if you lose in that game, it's a half hour, not two hours plus, and the consequence of losing metaprogression.
>>733689681That's the exact point I'm about to drop the game too. I wonder how many will actually put up with that garbage.
just fought The Mother and genuinely don't understand why this boss makes some of you guys rage so mucha bunch of anons said you need ranged to deal with her but thorns do the job better
>>733689681>And if you lose in that game, it's a half hour, not two hours plus, and the consequence of losing metaprogression.Yeah but I just spent 2 hours cheesing hush with the tanuki mask + lil haunt and tried to do the same to delirium before i got telefragged
>>733689831It's annoying as fuck because countless builds are just gonna be unable to beat it.
>>733689880the classic thorns tank trivializes ityet another reason tank is the best class
>>733689681it was pretty brutal for me too, I lost 3 fully geared runs before I finally managed to get a winning one, my advice if you ever come back to the game (or if Ed ever nerfs the quest) is to take cats with shitloads of mana regen and good basic attacks to try to mitigate the RNG, try to get a good as possible opening set of abilities so you're not too debilitated when they get re-rolled to shit like destroy an adjacent corpse for lifesteal on your Hunteralso use your savescums
It looks like shit. Everything I've seen of it is>Sex haha funny sex!>Shit! Poopoo! Shit! And sex!>Look at the funny sex cats haha poop and shit and sex and cats!not to mention shit like sonichu in it. It's not a funny reference, it's bullshit pandering to degenerates. I hate it.
Any good prep I should do before going to the true final area of act 3?
>>733689926we don't want you to like itbye
Reminder only browns and zoomers are filtered by this game so hard that they seethe about it constantly
Just learned about keep your team all together strats
>>733689926you know what website we're on, right?
Just beat pyrofina. Do you just need to nuke her? I had no damage and needed my tank with bandage wraps + the [heal all allies when down] trait and spam downs on him to keep everyone alive
>>733689926I’m waiting for its own equivalent to Gungeon myself.
>>733690140r/thedonald rapefugees think 4chan is the based and redpilled site for fascist chuds and not the libertarian shitflinging den it's always been
>>733689216Newgrounds humor. Predates reddit.
>>733689926I play for the gameplay
>>733689498I beat it blind with a pretty shitty squad that barely did damage and im still not even sure what the bosses gimmick is so in other words youll be fine
>>733689039My honest opinion is that I remember original flash Isaac on launch. I'm waiting until at least the first expansion to play this because I just know the balance must be fucked.
>the everstone let you use retired cats againWHY NOBODY TOLD ME ABOUT THIS????
>>733689915>just grind to hopefully maybe get a better chance at the slot machineI just don't want to do that. I think I'll just wait until all the DLC and updates are out. I really wanted to give this game a good shake because I'm probably the biggest Edmund McMillen fan in this thread and I expected the best of his magnum opus but oh my god it's just so fucking agonizing.>if you win easy, it's more than likely you just lucked into a great build or some circumstance than forming a great strategy and overcoming the odds>if you win not easy, it probably was extremely tedious and annoying to get through because you just had barely enough to overcome the boss and it's going to be 3 hours+ just for one single win>if you lose but it was hard-fought, you probably just got fucked by the RNG and gambled incorrectly, sorry>if you lose quickly you were unprepared and need to grind to have a better shot and your time was completely wastedIt's a shame because it's artistically brilliant and it's deeply personal, but holy fuck.
>>733689312Is it because of Hitler?
>>733689175What do you mean? There is steam deck and controller support for the game already. Why do you want to buy the same game twice? I don't understand.
>>733689926The poop cat and sex with my cat
>>733690425The Nazi robots all have swastikas on them.
>>733689039I keep seeing people say the throbbing king is a reference to the super meat boy dev, but isn't Edmund himself the super meat boy dev to begin with?
>>733690350?? That isn't true, the eternal youth event does
Oh you're trying to get a run going?it's going just ok?it's been over an hour?well guess what>Mittens got AIDSThat's right, your little fun comes to an end because fuck you that's why!Events are genuinely the worst part of the game
This seems obvious but just to confirm. If I have blind (attacks have 30% chance to miss) but I have bullseye so that attacks can't miss, the blind is basically overwritten and I have 100% hit chance, right?
>>733690482They're referring to Tommy Refenes, who was the programmer of Super Meat Boy alongside Edmund and the one who usurped the game and characters away from him.
>>733690474Dino boss was kinda disappointing considering what came before and what comes after.
>>733690482Super Meat Boy was made by Ed and Tommy, the two split over Mewgenics (the original version from over 10 years ago) and Tommy got Meat Boy in the divorce.
>>733690229It's still bad humor
2 druids is pretty insane
>>733690194>*swoosh*And just like that the boss was defeated
>>733690556>Tommy kicked Ed out because Tommy wanted to make money and Ed wanted to make art>Tommy has done nothing but milk Meat Boy with slop garbage no one cares about ever since>Ed just released an art game that sold a million copies in a week>Tommy could have had a piece of thatIs he going to kill himself?
I can't get to flush master he pushes us to one side then goes on the other side
>>733690670Depends how well Meat Boy 3D does.
>>733690691lollmao
>>733690687The way he faces is the direction he pushes.
>>733690691I didn't even know he was making a Meat Boy 3D.
>>733689681Just let Steven play the game for you bro if you're struggling.
>>733689202>THEY WON'T FUCKING SHOW UPtheir appearance is tied to your progression
>>733689831I've learned from these threads that a lot of people are bad at the game and let rng carry them without genuinely learning how play, so if you ask in these threads, every boss and the game itself is bullshit>oh he has backflip>oh he hits anything stopping in LOS>oh he dodges in grass and has high speed (proceeds to do nothing to remove or occupy grass)>oh he hurts you if you run up and hit him>never mixes up their team comp and runs the same comps every run despite some clear paths that counter certain classes and playstyles>the game doesn't let me win without using my brain unless I roll busted abilities and run cleric at all timesThen they blame the game when the wipe. I see why FGC and RTS threads never went anywhere on /v/ outside of spectating. People don't like problem solving
Do you guys like leeches?I think they're neat.
>fuck up ONCE>lmao xd ur party is dead>lmao xd try to breed a good party (impossible)>lmao xd get good RNG and skills lmao (impossible)Very fucking infuriating game.
>>733690583>buffs the buff that buffs Unironically one of my favorite classes
>>733690808>a lot of people are bad at the game and let rng carry themThe entire game is RNG dude. There's very little skill here.
>>733690776I've unlocked Act 3, and have only gotten one Guillotina fight, but I've have fought Zaratana, and now Pyrophina is making its way to the house too.
>>733690584Yeah i guess that too. I only had 1 watertank and put it on my cleric
>>733690840You're not supposed to have any easy time right out the gate. Just cheat.
>>733690825I fucking LOVE leeches
>>733689039my looksmaxxing program is going excellently...
>>733690529pls respond, someone must know
>>733690808makes sensei wonder how many anons ITT have done MTG drafts/sealed>>733690872you're proving him right
>>733690881did you go to both the caves/boneyard? are you trying to speedrun the game or something?
>>733690691>>733690748Didn't know either but looking it up it looks good enough for me to at least pirate. It also looks like the kind of thing Edmund would never do, where the only thing that changes in the sequel is the gameplay going from 2D to 3D. Edmund would want it to be a new IP or at least have more new things on it. Also make it more edgy and with more poop.
>>733690529>>733690943yes, can't miss basically ignores any acc. checks
>>733690953You obviously haven't seen act III if you think this game is consistent or rewards skill.
>>733690986thank you
>>733690912These cats r ugly as fuck tho
>>733690583you can bring 2 of the same????
>>733690881you might as well do the guillotina quest run started, it's going to keep hogging space in your inventory
>>733690872You have way more control over your outcomes than these threads would have you believe. There is legirimate bullshit in this game, but 90% of what people complain about in these threads is main game stuff designed to teach you how to play and is winnable even with bad rolls if you don't get fucked by weather or some crazy event. There's not a whole lot that's just plain unfair until you're almost at the end of the game. People want to win for free
>>733690204>fascistim not a fascist i just have a brain and know trump is the only guy that can save the economy
u jelly?
>>733691001i literally just posted about how the seething about Mother is completely overblown and there are multiple viable strategies for beating her, which i was able to glean from just my first battle with herthe only bullshit thing in that fight was the pillars turning into heralds when she was low HP and that's literally just a knowledge check
I am never going to get past this fucking boneyard. Getting there is hard enough with how dogshit RNG can make your classes. If you don't have cleanse by junkyard it's fucking over
>>733690912I want to get cute dragon cats
>>733691097Healing spells damage undead.
What upgrades should I be prioritizing?Also can kittens inherit upgraded versions of skills?
>>733691076Yes fuck you die
>>733691039wtf take it back
this game is a lot of people's first isometric TRPG and it fucking shows
>>733690872This >>733691060Same type of nigga who seethingly insists that 95% chance to hit in NuCOM is actually 50% for them in particular, despite it being literally the opposite.
>>733689039have not tried it yetI don't really like games where you're making units and trying to get good traits onto themjust feels like FE eugenics or pokemon autismand if I do get a good one I'd be afraid that they diedoes the game keep it from being frustrating?
>>733691040Yeah get the blank collar from the shop and it randomly picks a class to double when you ready up
Yo fuck these blood clot niggers in Throbbing Domain
>>733691132>What upgrades should I be prioritizing?tinkafter that, butch, although it's really helpful to get the 3rd room from frank>Also can kittens inherit upgraded versions of skills?i've never seen it happen but i would be surprised if it's literally impossible, probably just really rare without super high stimulation
>>733691147>Tranime
WHY OR WHY DOES IT BLEED US DRYHE GETS AWAY WITH MURDER, GETS AWAY WITH MURDER
>>733689039Fun gameplay loop, interesting meta breeding mechanics.I'll do a few runs a day but I'm not doing hour long sessions.
>>733691169They're disposable. The worst thing that can happen is that your cats fight each other and die in the house between runs, which could BTFO a cat you really wanted to breed, but you get so many fucking cats that it really just doesn't matter.I've got like 50 cats kicking around this bitch right now.
>>733691060>There's not a whole lot that's just plain unfair until you're almost at the end of the game.Which I am, which is how I know the game turns into a complete mess of RNG with zero skill.
>>733691225Keep your nonsense out of our thread, sir.
>>733690808One of the loudest faggots from the last few threads admitted to wiping 10 times in act 1 and dying to basic act 1 enemies that had thorns.
>>733689039PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP!GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!GET PREGNANT GET PREGNANT!
>>733691260Post house or GTFO
>>733691169cats are mostly disposable because you can only bring them on one adventureafter that they retire and are just for breeding stock and you can use them one time in a house boss battle but you don't have to worry about that right nowyou also get a lot of second chances for keeping your cats from permadying except in certain situations
>>733691260actual skill issue
It's fun until you start getting elite enemies who get 4 turns in a round and also get a holy mantle shield every turn they take.
>>733689329There's plenty of that. My first experiences trying to do the first cube quest ended up being miserable as 7 runs in a row basically had my team checkmated by encounters, bad luck on half the events, shit weather, bad starter skills and level ups, and the worst bosses. The sheer frustration was overwhelming, especially when I started a great run to the moon after I took a break from that quest, only to enter Moon hard mode like a fool and have my cats stunlocked round one and those that didn't go down from the massive combo ended up getting deleted. If the RNG is meant to swing outside of your favor, I wonder what part of the game I pissed off to basically be told to go fuck myself.
>>733691201thanks
>>733691395There's literally (no hyperbole, literally) zero skill in that second antenna quest.
I beat everybody in act 2 and the only boss gimmick that fucks with me is the spider moving on my turn (and it causes me to run away and end turn even if i have abilities I can use)
People say act 1 is easy but if you party wipe to anything building back up is near fucking impossible, unless you get strays with good strats, kittens with inherited stats (lmfao good luck), AND good class abilities from the start you're just going to be fucking suffering the entire way though
>>73369095380% of the posts here are by pure retardst. consistently going infinite in mtga draft
>>733691140That mouth is UGLY as fuck. It looks awful. Cats are pretty cute otherwise but it's horrendous
>>733691508Do you think if you post this enough it'll become true?
>>733691508you can clear act 1 with just strays as long as you're keeping up with appeal>>733691452i haven't unlocked that one yet but i'll let you know how retarded you are once i have
>>733689681Yeah it really should only scramble the spells of the guy who equips it, not every single cat
>>733691082>there are multiple viable strategies for beating herAll of them are "which overpowered Ranger build do I use today"
>>733691140I think they're cute, anon.
>>733691534oh yeah i'm working on that, haven't rolled a nice mouth yeti'll get a good :3 eventually
>>733691508This is just pure cope. Act 1 is the best time to lose progress. Your cats aren't going to get good until you appeal, comfort and stimulation max. I'd rather lose all my cats in act 1 than lose an OP mutation in act 3.
>>733689039Fun at first but gets boring very fast
>>733691572>i haven't unlocked that one yet but i'll let you know how retarded you are once i haveYou don't even know how unfair the game gets, hilarious.
What happens if you party wipe while holding a quest item?Do you have a chance to get a new copy of the item or is it gone forever?
>>733691650How. It absolutely sucked me in and I thought I'd get bored of it instantly
>>733691589the only ranged attacker in my party was my monk and i kept him in melee stance for almost the entire fightmy thorns tank carried
>>733691586Or have it alternate between scrambled and regular on everyone, ao you still have some semblance of a build.
Kind of a dominant gen
>>733689329I got the -1 int per battle parasite on my mage which was my primary damage dealer, completely killed the run.
>>733691657You keep the item until you beat the quest.
>>733691710Spoopy.
>>733691657If its a green quest item you just get it back, if its not you lose it and then you have to keep donating to Beanies until it rotates back into the pool
>>733691710wtf is that hair? head mutation?
>>733689039>mewgenics is from Maggy's povcant wait for the third game where we get to play from the dad's pov as he gambles away all of his money and the gameplay is similar to balatro now.
>>733691657>>733691737There are 2 quest items I've lost. One was a mask that made my Druid command all the enemies to kill me in turn 1.
>>733690808The game discourages you from experimenting and risk-taking during runs to figure out these things due to the random results of the skill checks and how punishing failing a run is. I'd be happy to try and draft more experimental builds out, but the game is so actively hostile towards that and so eager to outright destroy a build, you're often forced to be extremely conservative during runs in order if you don't want to waste your time.Not only does the game punish you for failing the run itself, it also punishes you for future runs given that it takes potential cat bloodlines/useful items away.Additionally, many of the games' mechanics are outright unexplained. Multiple bosses and enemies have unhelpful or extremely brief text explaining their behavior; bosses especially are a problem because they're the endcaps of runs or housebosses and that's a ton of investment being lost if you can't immediately parse and plan around their behavior. Item sets are something you have to figure out for yourself for example. For a tactics game it's inadequate in explaining what's there to strategize about.To contrast with Isaac, the actual RNG affecting your character was in the players' hands almost the entire time. You can choose not to gamble on blind pedestals or pills, and can dodge items that would change your build negatively. In Mewgenics your best cat can just get Blood Frenzy arbitrarily and there was no decisionmaking that led to that besides playing the game normally.
>>733691564>no argumentI accept your concession.>>733691572>>733691641Strays are shit when you keep up with appeal, the level of difficulty you run into even when you don't go down the hard path needs you to play flawlessly; but even if your strays are decent, they're heavily suspect to shit RNG just making it impossible to recover or manage from a bad roll from an event or something. Double so if your starting skills/passives aren't good.
>>733691791indeed
>>733691850act 1 doesn't have any egregious stat checks until you get to the throbbing domainit's not like act 3 where you aren't reaching the first boss if you have bad catsyou are simply unskilled
I will use strays because I'm lazyI will go to the hard path even when I'm completely fuckedI will keep doing it until I miracle into a build that actually works.
what happens if I fail to beat the vore cat attacking my house?do all my cats die?
>EntangleIs this the most broken thing in the game without any comboing?>only costs 5 mana>hits 5 tiles>inflicts 3 stacks a time>makes it so melee enemies/bosses can't do anything
>>733691917she just comes back lateryou can feed her a random stray if you're not ready to fight
>>733691804Don't steal a Saskatchewan gem
>>733691850Posting your asshurt in these threads will not make you better at videogames.Why don't you just savescum, my man? If Steven makes you seethe you can just kill the process tree from task manager.
>>733691907Oh, and also I won't put items on my cats because finding shit mid-run is more fun.
>backstabs do more damage on all classes even if you're not a thief using backstab passivesWhy didn't Eddie tell me this sooner?
so the two big kaiju are comingdoes it matter who wins
>>733691978You never noticed?I mean, I didn't either until 20+ hours in and the guy told me.
>>733691887You're ignoring my other point that if you have shitty skills, you're basically fucked. You don't have the upgrades to inherit skills, or even guarantee you get what you need to actually progress. Even if your strays are decent (which is like a 7 MAXIMUM) if you don't get good skills you're stuck playing optimally or party wiping
https://files.catbox.moe/80q97r.mp4Yes I savescummed I am not fucking charging that item again.
>>733691978I'm pretty sure this was in the tutorial.
>>733691978Butch tells you this in the tutorial iirc. It's definitely a hint you can get from him.
>>733691978Butch literally tells you this in the tutorial bossfight
>>733692057>>733692068i skipped the tutorial because of the quirk chungus dialogue and all the pop ups
>>733692040retard
does luck help the 10% chance mutations?
this fat bitch is my wife, say something nice
>>733692040>if you have shitty skills, you're basically fucked.No you're not because nothing in Act 1 (before the Throbbing Domain) expects you to have a good build. Bring a Tank, a Cleric, and a Hunter and you'd have to try to lose.
>>733692097You get what you deserve.
>>733692097ok DSP
>RNGslop
>>733692137That's right, don't prove your point.
https://files.catbox.moe/omqre1.mp4Cool game, I guess. Definitely spent hours planning out this grand strategy. Yup.
>>733692097People like you are why people like me are on medication.
>>733692042>realize after I kill the boss that's what I was supposed to do>it's saved overI THOUGHT I WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT IT IN THE OBELISK NOT THE BOSS LIKE THE LAST ITEMS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>Necromancer>Soul Link>Upgraded Mini Me>Spawn zombie cat on turn end>spawn leeches ability>every fight takes 20 minutes because of how long it takes for the zombie cats to do anythingit's fucking kino though.
>>733692195That's how I beat that piece of shit too. Now you can do the absolute worst mandatory quest in the game.
>>733689926Why did so many people seethe about this? The game is nothing but newgrounds humor. If you dislike castle crashers you'll dislike mewgenics.
>>733692218why does no one fucking read
>>733692258This is an old bit of footage I recorded. I actually quit the game due to that quest. Just posting for funsies.
>>733692218>>733692097>>733692037>>733691978Why are /v/irgins so illiterate? Reading the cat explains the cat.
>>733692195Lmao so that boss is basically "spread out and win"?
>>733692307My retarded brain read it as "stab it in the obelisk" instead of "stab it in the coven"
>tank gets bird flu near the beginning and it never gets cured so he spends the entire run without a main attack>squishy druid gets a brain worm that gives 99 confusion so he kills himself every single fight>still complete the run on the moonwhat a (great) piece of shit game
>>733692313I wonder how many people will accidentally kill that shitty boss, then realize the quest after is total liquid shit and drop the game, because that makes two of us.
>>733692316To be fair Thief makes backstab abilities sound like it requires a melee skill, not your ranged nail throw
>>733692195wait i could've just done this? killing myself
>>733689039Okay so what does this even do? The Broken Mirror "Hat" is actually fairly decent but unless there's a way for me to hawk this off onto the enemy somehow I don't see how this'd ever be useful.
Fuck this I'm savescumming. Fuck RNG deciding I need to play the game again.
>>733692318It's more like "find an exploit and win on accident" because the boss is pure cancer.
>>733692367No it doesn't.
>>733692410Protip: if you really wanna get scummy you can backup your save right before events in order to avoid the late game "lol your run is now ruined" steak moments.
>>733692367no
>>733692380It's part of an item setThe full set gives +999 luck
>+1 range on mage>my basic attack extends>my energy blast does notwhy, ranger skills get extended by range
>>733692421>stab>melee/strength>nail throw>ranged/dex>both proc backstabAre you a retard
>>733692410Game basically gives you two free savescums, the third one is a bit iffy though I did beat the man in the moon with it.
>>733692375I didn't even know it was going to do that. The win felt deeply unsatisfying despite it being handed on a silver platter because you would just have to know that the AI would happily piss away all of its health to kill some of your units.I don't even know what the strategy would be otherwise.
>>733692410I'd actually encourage savescumming in this game until one gits gud. Seeing how making different decisions makes the fight go better (or worse) for you will help you out in the long run.
>>733691846This is probably the most reasonable breakdown of this game's flaws that I have seen in any of these threads
>>733692470Guess I'll hang onto it until I find the other pieces then, sounds like a lot of commitment but one less storage slot ain't so bad
>Leave I have a gun!>oh it's just you>I thought you were Nazi from the futureSo is the Doctor Jewish?
>>733692570He's Mengele who was a Jewish doctor for the nazis
Taking advantage of your one free savescum per run will make you better at the game in the long run because you'll have more experience fighting the battles that give you the most trouble.
Be a good goy and keep playing the degenerate goynecis.
This passive is very funny in throbbing domain
>>733691846>To contrast with Isaac, the actual RNG affecting your character was in the players' hands almost the entire time. You can choose not to gamble on blind pedestals or pills, and can dodge items that would change your build negatively. In Mewgenics your best cat can just get Blood Frenzy arbitrarily and there was no decisionmaking that led to that besides playing the game normally.this is the only real issue, the game is still good but it's full of afterbirth+ level steak
>>733690808There were a lot of times where I had teams that would have been fucked if I didn't have something fucky in them. I have only lost once so far, but I'm only 20 hrs in and finished act2. I also end a lot of runs early if I just know the team isn't good enough, which is probably why I don't fail a lot.
Can elderly cats still fuck or are you supposed to give them to a neighbor before they kick the bucket?
>>733692520honestly, I feel like a complete idiot for losing to Zombie Guillotina and not alt+F4ing for a retryspeaking of which, how long do I gotta wait until she shows up again in that form? because I already beat Zaratana after her and now I'm waiting on Pyrophina
>>733692570Nazis from the future keep stealing his inventions. This is an actual plot point.
>>733692026The winner will have quest to be escorted to the loser's area (Pyro to Moon, Rock Cat to Core)
>get to end of run>fight boss for the first time>oops, this boss has a gimmick that will cause you to instantly lose if you didn't go in knowing what to doand specifically prepare for it>better luck next time
>>733691269>tranny
>>733692712I can't think of any that fit this description.
The random beanie quests are a million times harder than even the hardest mainline quest. If you're struggling with those, then I can't imagine how filtered you'd be doing a 3-5 side quest item run.
>>733692643I've had some old cats fuck.
>Unlock necromancer>Can summon zombiesHaha!>Zombies can eat your own cats' corpsesNot haha...
>>733692643Yes, either keep them around until they die or pipe them if you don't want to waste pipe fodder (technically you need to pipe cats to ??? too if you want all the cheevos).
>>733692643It's a warning that you have max 5 days with it so if you need it to breed, do it now or donate
>>733692712There are no bosses like that in the game, unless the very last boss is like that (only one I haven't fought yet). Everything else is perfectly possible to deal with on the first try, I've only ever lost two runs: One early on when I was still getting a hang of things, and the second one due to not really grasping exactly how bad bubble boy was going to be.
>>733692782It's especially brutal when you have the passive that summons zombies automatically.
>>733692504well i've been brainstorming a strat to keep him in a corner with psychics by spamming increase gravity for the slow, telekinesis to push him away and true sight so he can't dodge while my designated gigarapist hunter actually outputs in the dpsi think i'll stick with this plan cuz yeah that sounds kind of lame and unearned in comparison, just abusing the retarded AI too hard
>>733692763You only do those when you're feeling like a masochistic retard, making the one where builds are impossible to have mandatory is atrocious game "design"
>>733692782Only way I failed a run. Was still kino having like 10 zombies on screen and round 242142 because I refuse to die.
>>733692782Don't get downed
>>733692712What boss?
What’s the rundown on the Edmund guy. I’ve heard he homeschools his kids, is that guy fucked up in the head?
YIPPIE!
>>733692847Adapt and overcome
>>733692930*Chew and gamble
>>733692630That's a reasonable way to play and many people think they're gods that can solo clear runs because they're just that good
>>733692908Is this why every single offensive ability costs at least three mana?
>>733692812>>733692901NTA but Devourer almost got me like this. I really wasn't expecting his two-turn AOE move to instakill everybody in it, since previous AOE moves just hurt a lot. Lost half my team on the first turn; if the Hunter hadn't been shitting out 36 damage with every shot I probably would've lost.
>>733693013i don't think it can reduce to 0
>>733691804haven't thought about it in forever, but that was basically what bumbo was supposed to be, right?
>>733691846>The game discourages you from experimenting and risk-taking during runsI wouldn't say so? unless you're specifically trying to accomplish a goal or quest there is very little pressure on succeeding. You can easily throw away a team just to see what that skill does or how that combo works out or whatever, and if it doesn't oh well there's a dozen more cats waiting at the house to try again
>>733692756>>733692901The house bosses' behaviors are entirely unexplained, which is especially problematic given that they require the most investment to defeat.A number of the secret skill check encounters don't have any indication on their behavior (for example, Dust Devil), and this an intentional decision.Gambit and Crater Maker have no explanation of what their alternating moves specifically do, you'd have to roll them to see exactly.Johnny's "psychic spells" aren't specifically explained.Mother has flavor text and no explanation on her behavior.
anyone ever gotten a reward for sacrificng a cat to volcano in act 3
>>733693184>hmm i wonder what this giant fire breathing kaiju's gimmick might be?
>>733691508I didn't start really breeding until act 2 since I wanted space and storafe from retired cats. You're bad and blaming the game at being bad.
>>733693184>Mother has flavor text and no explanation on her behaviorit's pretty easy to infer she grows and will instakill your cats if she gets a hold of themthe pillars turning into summons is cancer though
>>733693184You can still figure these out during the fights, though.
>>733689039I have been addicted to it since it came out. However, Act 3 really slows that love down to the point of not enjoying runs because of all the "dont get hit or the run is over" bullshit.
>>733693184Even before pyro attacked I took my 85 IQ and concluded she probably>Does a huge amount of aoe damage>Lights everything on fireAnd oh wow I was sure surprised she did!Johnnys psychic powers clearly allude to him uh idk taking over your genetic mutant retard cats behavior? Duh?It's like saying hurrdurr how was I supposed to know dybbuk would possess a cat(when possession and charming has already been beaten into your head as extremely dangerous up to that point)You're just dumb
>>733692763this nigga knows. i was baffled by the 2% achievement rate until i started grinding them outsome of the reward items are tits though like the ass face that only applies poison to enemies
>>733693184yeah i remember when gambit instantly killed me by rolling a nat 20, good times
>>733690059Druid+3 dps or druid, 2 dps and a psychic is very hard to lose with. Even moreso if you get pierce on anyone
>>733689329Breeding all 7 stat cats only for the hunter to get Blood rage first event almost made me quit the game.
>>733692782Why is this catching so many people out?
>>733693314>when possession and charming has already been beaten into your head as extremely dangerous up to that pointIs there even a single enemy or encounter anywhere in act 1 that charms or possesses your cats other than dybbuk?
>>733692954I kind of want to see the gameplay of someone who claims this game is all RNG. I bet I'd see a lot of dumb fucking decisions.
>>733693393>Why is this catching so many people out?Because it's not something that's ever explained or indicated and the only way to know is to find out the hard way.
>>733692782Are you even necromancing properly if you aren't ultimately hoisted by your own petard?
>>733693405We're discussing a quest where your spells are randomized after you use them. The game is already an RNGfest, but that just puts it over the top and into maximum steakage.
>>733693435It's certainly what got Herbert West.
LOOK AT HE GO
>>733693393It's the sort of thing that happens to everyone once. You don't really expect your allied units to totally fuck you over like that, and then you realize that it makes perfect sense and feel like an idiot. They probably did it on purpose.
>>733692903him and his wife are different variety of tard, and their daughter probably has some of both. according to him, she kept running away from school after they went back after the pandemic, so they decided it would be better to homeschool.
>>733693452doesn't the randomization only last for 1 battle? so you get your full spell set at the start of each battle?
>>733693417zombie cat description literally says they eat corpses
>>733693393It turns out most people are mentally retarded
>>733693237Yes, you can assume she breathes fire, but you also would have to assume that she would scorch the outskirts of the arena, among other things.A better example: what indication was there for Guillotina 3 to spawn Mama Maggot at half health? There's undead enemies but they don't always spawn maggots, for example. The game has design motifs that aren't always wholly consistent in gameplay.>>733693268>>733693287You shouldn't have to infer in a strategy game where the idea is you strategize before execution. I beat all of these bosses, but having to play the game of what the designers were thinking in a strategy game is unwise.
The real travesty of this game is realizing that the gay retard RNG steakhouse is still less unfun than 99% of modern games.
Does anything special happen if you charm the one baby spider with that one quest item. Does it end the fight immediately or does the boss still show up
>>733693520>You shouldn't have to infer in a strategy gamehave you ever played X-COM? that game has fog of war and insanely brutal knowledge checks
>>733689651cant believe I am actually going to win this fucking cursed dogshit run>every single fight anyone boxed in between the 2 druids got fucked and reduced to 1/8 of their max health, no heal after leaving>Firestorm event so everyone receives free damage at the start of battle
>>733693502You get to use the actual spells you want exactly once each battle. Good luck beating The Mother, an already fucking atrocious boss like that.
Fun fact, there is an extra level up in the alleywayOne possible ? event node is a mad white rabbit, failing the movement check to follow it back to it's stash will prompt a miniboss fight with a level up as it's reward
>>733693520The cutscene makes a pretty big deal of showing her emerging in the graveyard. Be happy she isn't accompanies by dybbuk, mama maggot is literally nodif
>>733693334>what is aoe heal>>7336933797 7 are overrated ąs fuck. Crazy mutations are more important
>>733693417To be fair, this game teaches you early on if "enemy" isn't specified then everything is fair game
>>733692380I don't know if the other anon is telling the truth or yanking your chain, but I do know you can also get a cat with Inverse to get +99 luck at the expense of their previously lowest stat. If that stat was Int, doing it on a Fighter with abilities that need low Int would be powerful.
I think I get it, throbbing king is how mom sees Isaac as an entitled brat
>>733693570I don't know about charming it but for my latest run I spent the first few turns buffing all my cats without killing the baby spider and she spawned at the start of round 3 on her own
>>733693598classes like tank and butcher aren't very spell-reliant and all you need to deal with the mother is thornsare you trying to do this quest with a team of psychics and mages or something?
>>733693656>and all you need to deal with the mother is thornsHow are you going to consistently heal or apply thorns?
>>733693689Butcher auto heals and can go over map HP and boost his strength with 5 HP of overhead. You just suck at the game
>>733693618>>what is aoe healtits as in good, retard, and the reward version ONLY applies to enemies
>>733693610Passing the check nets 10-30 coins, charming the rabbit will give you him as a companion for the rest of the alleyway area, but he has a 50% of gaining madness every fucking turn, plus he has an infinite chain dash like Magnus has
>>733693689well normally i equip items
>>733693587HOLY SHIT WE DID IT BOYS DRUID SHITTERS FTW
>>733693584I've played multiple Fire Emblem games to completion. Fire Emblem 6 has this similar issue where reinforcement positions/triggers on the enemy phase are entirely unexplained beforehand and the game not telling you that is pretty widely considered to be an issue there, and I think the same lack of information is also an issue in Mewgenics.
>>733693634>previously lowestDon't you need Int to be the highest for it to swap with low Luck?
>>733693712You clearly haven't actually done this bullshit.
It's weird there isn't much crit heals in this game, that or the chance is really fucking low
>>733693417the game does a weird thing where you are supposed to learn over time that a cat being downed counts as it being 'dead' even though it is clearly conscious and convulsing on the ground, and abilities that say they 'kill' your cat only really down you. i dont understand why the game does this shit. the tutorial says something about how your cats get downed when at 0 hp and if they get hit a lot while downed they 'die for real' but then getting downed is already counted as dying by the game?i cant think of any scenario where your cats being counted as dead when downed actually benefits the player, seems like yet another new player assrape from edmund. he really, SERIOUSLY can't help himself with this shit.
>>733693742Fire emblem reinforcements are so much worse than just being bonked into fire
>>733693730>He went for the dead cat in the fireYou didn't hit him at all the entire fucking fight?
>>733693469Didn't happen to me, I saw a zombie near my downed cat and went OH SHIT and tried to push the zombie away because I rewad their description
>>733693742i think FE and mewgenics have very different design goalsFE is designed for you to go through a linear series of entirely pre-designed battles where the tools you have access to are mostly predetermined by the developers, and while it's definitely replayable it's not made with the assumption that the average player will be replaying it over and overmewgenics is chaotic by design and you're going to be replaying battles a lotin any case, generalizing from what's good or bad in fire emblem to assume that applies to ALL strategy games is retardeddifferent games have different goalsplus none of the knowledge checks in mewgenics are just "oops, you lose" the way some reinforcements can be if you reset for deaths
>>733689039It looks like shit>It's intentionally badThen the dev has succeeded. Congratulations I'm still not playing a shit game
>>733693768Butcher with spin to win spews out healingGet overhealHave passive that auto moved to healing itemGet passive that adds str and/or damage on healingYou can then mix and match any number of other shit to make a self healing damage tornado with literally no need to use active skillsYou are bad at the game
>>733693935>just get an incredibly specific set of passives broThanks for the advice, genius.
>>733693991That's ONE class with only 2 passives that they roll constantly, and that's without needing itemsEvery class can be used correctly if you just don't suck
>>733693508Cats get DOWNED. They sit there on the floor and TWITCH. And when combat ends they get up because they're NOT A FUCKING CORPSE.
>>733694041They're too weak to resist when the zombie comes munching.
>>733694027>every class can be randomly given the chance to succeed against a terribly designed bossWhat a sell.
>>733693787necromancer has a lot of shit that can work while he's dead but the game introduces enemies that can destroy or eat corpses, or you run into a boss that has no corpsesinterestingly, the necromancer miniboss morana will not die if there's a corpse on the map, friendly or enemy
>>733694041>IM SILLYGet some common sense fag
>>733692316Does it explain why rubbing the cat makes it go fat?
>>733694071>It's the games fault that I didn't learn how to play it and brute forced every encounter until I figured out I suck at building charactersDiablo 2 must have been like rocket science to you
>>733693787>i cant think of any scenario where your cats being counted as dead when downed actually benefits the player, seems like yet another new player assrape from edmund. he really, SERIOUSLY can't help himself with this shit.Some cleric skills refer to downed as dead and lifting him back up as reviving himalso all of the necromancer skills
>>733694103No, nobody's sure what's up with that.
>>733693907Mewgenics is a lot more complicated and randomized, yes, but it's still a strategy game, so if it fails to enable the player to properly strategize I will have a problem with it.It's not just me who has a problem; Edmund and Tyler stated on stream that they want the game to be as informational and encyclopedic as possible to right the wrongs of Isaac, so if there's a gap in that, I will point it out, even if it's minor.>plus none of the knowledge checks in mewgenics are just "oops, you lose" the way some reinforcements can be if you reset for deathsI think the Mama Maggot thing in Guillotina 3 is pretty much just like that though. The fight was already kind of tricky to that point and you get unavoidable poison if you let the body near the head, so if you were expecting it to be that way to whole way through you can just lose you run.Savescumming being an intentional and frankly encouraged mechanic feels to me like a bandaid on some of the game's design flaws.
>>733694109You can be armed with as much knowledge as there is to know, the game can still decide to just not give you the ability to succeed. Gotta love building entire characters around one specific shitty boss too.
Cya!
>>733694161>I think the Mama Maggot thing in Guillotina 3 is pretty much just like that though.i actually felt like this during the fighti was certain i was going to lose once mama maggot appeared because i'd already been pushed pretty hardbut then i woni will admit i probably got lucky
I fucking hate the toad and turle, it just makes my games take forever to finish and they never do anything useful
Just got to act 3 only time I've lost a run was getting cheesed after having to do the sacrifice for throbbing domain. What is so dangerous about it act 2 wasn't that bad outside of a couple of enemies amebas were really annoying for example if you couldn't smash them all
>>733694205Well, my build for the fight wasn't quite as fortunate, and I wasn't keen to use the savescumming feature then so oh well there goes my best four retired cats and my best items and their bloodlines and my time.
>>733689039What's with all the Pokemon references in this game? Sitrus Berry, Guillotina is just Snorlax, and a ton of the moves are just direct Pokemon move references. Didn't know Edmund even like that series
>Bumblefoot eats a living cat round 1... LIKE A BOSS!
Well damn, this is disappointing. I thought there'd be a new real area.
>>733694257Edmund and Tyler both like it.
>>733694257Super Meat Boy is his Mario.The Binding of Isaac is his Zelda.I'll let you guess what his Pokemon is supposed to be
>>733694272Bring the item you get from the third tina fight here
>>733689096I agree with this notionI understand the concept of managing risk and dealing with RNG, but some events are just so fucking unfunIf the result is going to be a 50/50 at least give us the option to not interact with it
>>733690881I just got to act 3 but I fought the 3 guillotina did throbbing domain and pyro is showing up in a few days
>>733694272
Someone asked whether the locket event can yield an actual reward. Got Future Sight from it with luck check
>>733694205had a cracked team where cleric kept giving bonus attacks to front critical fighter while the mage locked down and gave support, and the thief went crazy with backstabs
>>733694272OHHHH HE'S THE KING
>>733694328Gives dodge
>>733694297That's deep...
>>733692782I got two necronomicons before I even got necromancer so I learned very fast
ADHD cats aren't as bad as i thought it would be, if that cat's speed isn't high enough to make them first
>>733694132okay, fair enough. i rarely ever play necromancers and i pass any reviving skills i see, because id rather not have downed cats in the first place. i really wish all the descriptions that deal with downed and dead allies got a second pass to fix inconsistencies, that would be high priority from me if i was asked what i would want changed about the game.
>>733693237The day pyrophina reached the house, the radio was talking about a thunder lizard that breathes fire so I thought I would have to choose between suffering through the fire or dousing it with water and getting zapped. But then she didn't have any electrical attacks, I felt deceived by the radio guy.Not complaining about the game btw this is just an observation.
IT'S ALL WRONG JUST SINGIN' THIS SONGWHILE IT'S FALLIN' APART AND IT WON'T TAKE LONGCAN'T BELIEVE I'M SEEING IT TUMBLEWATCH ME STUMBLEWATCH ME STUMBLELAYIN’ DOWN UNDER THE GROUNDSCREAM SO LOUD CAN'T HEAR A SOUNDEARTH IS SHAKINGSTARTS TO RUMBLEWATCH IT CRUMBLEWATCH IT CRUMBLE
>>733694328>>733694375Oh, that's actually pretty good.It gave me like 5 bucks last time I did it.
All of you talking about death and zombies might as well ask. What is the use for fake death. All it does is fucking down you permanently
>>733694508there are effects that trigger when down
>>733694508Some ability combos can abuse the hell out of it.
>>733690872Ive only wiped twice so far. Cope and sneethe
>>733694508play dead? can be used in a pinch to make enemies ignore you(except the ones that eat corpses) or activate downed passives/skills
Just one turned The Mother with a scattershot +rubber arrows hunter that had arrow of desinty. Psychic with mind meld +kilo of catnip gave her 4 turns lol. Ridiculous. Can’t see how you’d do that fight without ranged though
>>733694563still on act 1 i take it
>>733694508Leech Brood + We Are One + Play Dead is my best Necro.
>>733694525Yea but you can just use a low constitution cat instead which is what I usually do for those builds.>>733694538Like what I assume you'd need a synergy to revive and die again to spam an effect
>>733694508In addition to what other anons said, there's a collarless skill that gives your other cats stat up 2 (?) when you go down.
>>733694605>Yea but you can just use a low constitution cat instead which is what I usually do for those builds.okay but what if you want to trigger it on-demand or even on turn 1 of every battle
Why did we stop talking about the secret poop level? We were close to figuring it out. Is it because the threads aren't comfy anymore?
>>733689039THREE LITTLE TURDS (TURDS TURDS TURDS)PERCHED BY YOUR DOORSTEPAND MY ADVICE WOULD BETHAT YOU DON'T TAKE ONE MORE STEP (WATCH OUT!)
What the fuck
JESUS, the antenna quest to unlock the next zones is bullshit>First event in the lab brings 4 birds to every fight and made them aggressive and with status up>INCLUDING the druid's crow, so every battle starts with a roided shitter attacking my party and spamming the knockback skill>Next event is the tornado>Then the gust of wind>Fire>I reach the boss, it's fucking spewer and the nigger crow ONESHOT MY FIGHTER WITH A 38 BACKSTAB>Fighter got the jason's mask, but everytime he auto revived the tornado instantly killed him>End the fight with 5 injuries>Somehow managed to reach the jurassic zoneDO NOT take the druid for this quest, if you get this fucking event you will need to kill a crow pet every battle until the end of the zone and if you are unlucky you will get this same event again later
>>733694682Haha, yeah.Be thankful you didn't get the one that has the upgraded glass throwing niggas. That was torture.
>>733694297>spewer is his KirbyHoly moly…
>>733694721The second antenna quest is even worse, so bad it's worth dropping the game entirely until the steaktard fixes it.
>>733694732Elite glass spitters have so much fucking range, he can hit you without moving, ridiculous
>>733694739I don't think Edmund likes Kirby at all but honestly that's pretty perfect too.
>>733690984>mario 3d land style shartformerwhat about that looks good man? no offense
>>733689039I'm burnt out. Was here for the isometric tactics gameplay first and the breeding thing has just been an obstacle in my way. I dont care about the cats or the house or the family trees or anything, just want to go on runs. That and how long runs are for how easy it is to lose everything has put me off for at least a while.
So what exactly happens when your cat fails to loot the King? Is it just his last gasp or what?
>>733693520whats the big deal with guillotina 3 spawning a mama maggot at half health thoughyou are already needing to do something like 600 damage that fight whats another 200 for a weak midboss
>>733694920They get strangled to death while your other cats watch in horror
>>733694905It happens. I think it took me like 120 hours to beat XCOM EU because I'd drop runs around the time the Ethereals started showing up. Couldn't stand those niggers.
>>733694949The maggot spam can be fucking brutal.
>>733693393>>733693508edmund worded it this way on purpose as a joke
>>733694949it's a surprise with zero warning or indication which leaves people with a bad taste
>>733694954He's such a fucker. His fight isn't even hard, it's just annoying as shit. I wish there was a way to kill him harder.
>>733694965Burfer maggots aren't so annoying, but chargers can put the hurt on your cats, and the diglets melee attack can fucking stun
>>733694965i assumed that guillotina 3 would spawn some little maggots so i brought AOEwell really i brought the "whenever an enemy kills a unit, they take 10 damage" passive expecting some trampling and threw leeches everywhere but whatever. it worked
>>733692908Ive genuinely had some great autism cats its a pretty damn good ability
Zodiac reloads the revolver from the front wtf
>>733695062that's how you know the game was made in California
>>733694905Once you have more item storage losing a run isn’t that bad. Early on it’s brutal though
post your very cutest cat
>>733694183>Another blame the game for not handing me wins episode
>>733695074>>733695062He's just too edgy to load it the normal way; he thinks it makes him look cool. Pls understand that my boy has autism.
>>733694920Tentacles come out and pull the cat under, killing the cat. There's also a fakeout version where the animation plays where you get an item successfully but then they die anyway.
>>733695004chargers just do damage to your cats and that's that, you can heal it off. the fucking burrowing NIGGERS that swap your cats deep into enemy territory and cancel entire turns are several orders of magnitude worse, they just get to teleport around the map for free and lick the assholes of your cats for 8 damage.there are certain enemies in this game that i hate so much that i find genuine joy in running into their face and painfully clawing off their flesh and bones as fast as possible. it really feels like im getting into the mindset of a cat when i play this game sometimes.
>>733695062Franklin made it.
>>733695098managing the breeding has pissed me off a lot more than losing runs honestly. a few dead cats and lost items is an inconvenience
>>733695146You gotta beg the game to hand you the tools to win against the awful boss design. Annoying and not fun.
>>733695140
>>733695140>4 speedP I P EIPE
>hunter learns catch projectiles to turn into a bonus attack>cleric learns minihook>gears turn in head>cleric hooks hunter turning him into an ammo printerlove synergies
Squirrels on Druid are kinda insane
Hey magic niggas are actually pretty fun
>>733695374i said CUTEST not FASTEST
>>733695140Sex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0w4nbtxmXcSOUL
>>733694721Yea, the angry birds is rough. After you get through there, it's pretty smooth sailing, even with druid. The next quest is a bitch too, but the trick to that is just take people who don't rely on abilities, or gear for the dots - Mother is pretty much the only boss who doesn't remove her debuffs at all.>>733694762Git gud.
>>733695561>Git gud*Git lucky.
>>733695585You literally just suck at the game lil gup. I did the entire mother fight for that quest with my squad, a crow, and a squirrel. Learn how to be efficient with your turns and what you get.Cause if quest mother broke your mind this hard, you'd shriek and cry in the Infinite.
>>733695747You got lucky, big deal. That's how the game works.
>>733695585why is it hard again? I dont remember anything of note about it ...
>>733693618>ągo to bed you pole
>>733695784skill issue + unironic luck issue, luck is not a dump stat in this game
>finally fight spewer instead of the easy build your own cat boss>huh this isnt bad at all why does everyone complain about this boss>beat him easily>go to the ice age>hmmm wait a second my mage looks a little weird in the cutscene i dont remember him having horns for eyes>get to first encounter>my mage which was critical to my strategy so far(give massive amounts of mana to hunter and psychic) is now permanently blind and his mana gift move almost always misses>well fuck ok not a big deal at least hunter can still car->hunter turns into a werewolf and regens almost no mana nowSo thats it huh? Spewer can just give my cats permanent bullshit mutations and its completely out of my control? Im not sure what else could have done it unless thats just a side effect of time traveling which is equally bullshit game design. My cats absolutely were like that before fighting spewer.
Do you need to have a quest item equipped to count as completing the quest? Fucked up a run with the Persuasian Device, it's worn now and I don't want it to break.
>>733695849You fail it if the quest item breaks
>druid like a fish passive says water doesnt slow you down>what it actually means is you and your summons get to move through water for free so you get infinite movement range on sewers and caves
>>733695841>My cats absolutely were like that before fighting spewer.Wete not like that fuck
>>733695841just deal with it :) every run is absolutely totally winnable even with garbage strays :) it's just a little RNG what's the problem :)
>>733695805Randomizes spells after the first time you use them per battle. Just a stupid waste of time really.>>733695825There's very little skill in this game.
>>733695380>only 5 mana regen per turn being an INT maxxer feels good
>>733689446(THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES)(THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES)(THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES)(THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES)(THEM BONES THEM BONES THEM KITTY BONES)...
>>733695784Whenever someone says you got lucky it instantly outs them as shit at the game. Unless you're getting killed before you even move you shouldn't be this dependant on rng for a win. You can counterpick many missions and paths with decent breeding management
dead in a month probly
>>733695895Oh i still won the run, in fact i won it no issues. Im just unsure what spewer did to actually triggered the mutations, because it was really fucking annoying to finally get a useful mage and have him be a sitting duck later.
>>733695932Are you announcing your plane to -ACK yourself?
>>733695932in 10 days because sts2 comes out
Anyone else find the combat speed options fucked up?1 is a little too slow, then 2 is wacky fast, let alone 3 or 4. Needs like, 1.5.
>>733695931The game really is just luck though.
>>733695805It makes all your spells cost 2 less but randomizes them after every cast for the battle. Extremely easy to play around by focusing on basic attack preferring classes or just building your cats around first time casts. Mother is certainly a bitch but still doable if you know when and how to add control.>>733695841Time Travel mutates a cat. Can't explain why your Ranger got lycanthropy though.
>>733696015The game is called mewgenic anonDo eugenicLuck is a statIts your fault that your luck is low
>>733696013there's a post on steam saying you can edit the config file for 1.5x speed or any other value you ant
>>7336960132 feels like the intended speed.1 is absurdly slow.
>>733696013I agree. I also wish they'd make the status effect animation for Confused faster. It takes a retarded amount of time to pause for 5 seconds doing nothing until the "Confused" text pops up and the game decides whether confusion procs.
>>733696028Just use a tinkerer gunner build...
>>733696061>waste your time grinding out cats just for them to get fucked by RNGPointless.
>>733696028>Time Travel mutates a cat.Fucking edmund man. Sometimes his steaks really are too chewy. Well i hope permanent blind isnt a common eye mutation holy fuck thats retarded
Lost a run to 6 lost confusion rolls in a row.Uninstalling.
>>733696102Again luck is an overlooked statYou will realize theres a reason why insta bad event happens to low luck cats
>>733689926>toilet humor >pandering to degeneratesnot beating the soccer mom allegations
>>733696124There's a lot of negative mutations. One I see a fair bit is lack of a body part or a climbing 5% miss chance.
>>733696178Let me guess, luck was 4?
>>733696180You're really overstating how much effect your luck stat has. It's just 10% to reroll per point above 5. You need to get it up significantly for it to matter and even then it's just a reroll if you fail.
Actually we need a run downOr someone to look in how luck functionBecause from what edmund said luck affect every rolls the game does?
>>733695895>>733695950This exchange amused me greatly.
>>7336962105
>>733694654QRD?
>>733696227are you retarded?That's mean a luck 10 cat rerolls half the time
>There’s something wrong here, really wrong here!~>That guy next to me looks weird~>He’s got a tail where his leg should be~>The devil only knows how he pees!~
>>733696227You are massively underestimating the value a 30% chance to reroll everything based on chance in a game with a lot of chance based elements has on a run
>From the Trees can summon another crowHoly shit
>>733696305 to add to thisYou probably rolls like 5-10 times every time you take a cat's turnLuck is a MASSIVELY important stat
>>733696335Do you keep it after battle?
>>733696304>DOWN WITH THE DEVIL starts going right as I strike the final blow
>>733696417anon don't be retarded!!!!!
>>733696417No but summoning the equivilence of a cat copy with basic attacks is pretty nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyz2hdhBcVo
>>733696534Somehow butch treat cats better than 90% of the cast
>>733696242This games just has a weird feeling where despite being incredibly annoying and bullshit and even a bit overwhelming at times actually getting a win is still pretty easy. The only time ive wiped was because i brought shitty cats in the bunker without really preparing for it and died to the retard of all things cause he grabbed my onoy damage dealer and that was in like my first 10 hours of gameplay. Beyond that i could count the times ive lost a cat on one hand let alone lost a run, and the only times ive had to retire were when i was given covid and bloodfrenzy (which i will not defend holy fuck what absolute bullshit events). I dont think ive played a game where everything can feel so overwhelming oppressive and bullshit yet still somehow be perfectly doable.
Should I send this retard on a run?
>>733696562Really has it out for old people though
oh god
>>733696628close
>>733696534It begins.Unironically, though, I don't see Butch as being very affectionats to his cats. He seems to treat them pretty much how we do - as disposable tools. For money or something, I guess. It's kinda fucked that he's the second best option for a good cat rehoming behind Frank. Jack and Beanie both do horrible shit to them, Tracy is keeping them in a kennel, and Tink is presumably dumping them directly onto the street the instant they turn 2.
>>733696598Perfect thief
>actually buy the soundtrack>there's no high quality unga bunga version of mom i really hate youwhat the fuck
What's the music name of Jack's Shack?
I guess you can get your own soul
>>733690241What gameplay?
I'm bad at this game.No, I don't want to plan out my moves.No, I don't want to check enemy ranges before I move.I just want to unga bunga and smash my face in everything and hope rng carries me. Just beat crater.
>>733696695I want to buy the soundtrack but I feel like I shouldn't until I've completed the game, I like hearing the song for the first time while actually fighting the boss.
>>733696664>>733696613Can't argue with results though, he can teach a cat to do anything it seems.
>>733696814You'll fit right in. Hop aboard.
>>733696582I agree with you completely. On my last run my fighter got Cordiceps (25% chance to be taken over by AI every turn) and Fatty Liver (+8 Con, PERMANENTLY lose 1 every time you take damage) and I was pissed. I'm thinking "great, now this cat is fucking useless and can't even use the cool hat I brought. What a shitshow." Then I easily swept Domain and he still had 10 con to spare. It's impressive how easy the gane makes it to compensate for the bullshit it throws at you while still making it feel like a challenge, and also not making it feel like any of your cats aren't pulling their weight. It's probably one of the best designed games I've ever played.
I've changed my mind on PsychicThis fucker enables so much bullshit if you carry him through chapter 1
Cats with scatological will instakill flushmaster btw
>>733696915no he sucks, He will never be a real class.
>>733696851me too, i've just been listening to music from areas i've completed and the radio.
>>733696895>It's probably one of the best designed games I've ever played.Wait until you get further in.
Why is solo run a thing you can do when half the bosses are just CC hell
>>733696965Same with rock eater and rock based bosses
>>733697059I'm well into Act 3. If the postgame stuff is bullshit I can accept that, because I've already gotten 70 good hours for 25 bucks.
>>733697070One cat soaks up all the levels so they can get pretty busted.Admittedly you probably need Bleed Thorns or something else that will cause the boss to take damage every time they move to compensate for them moving 5x as many times as you.
>>733697105Once the C-1000 comes out the game drops of a cliff.
>>733697105He's been seething at being overly rng reliant and not being able to bunga through everything with good skill rolls
>>733697190Objectively the game is all RNG reliant, it just gets more strict towards the end.
Why does the game tell you base stats are what matters for breeding and not boosted stats, then not give you a way to check base stats for hours and hours?
>>733696915The only psychics ive had either gave my team multiple movements a turn, blew up the entire map with sparkles, or instakilled dangerous 50+ hp enemies once a turn while using knock back skills to keep other shit at bay after. Feels good to supposedly highroll on this class for once after failing to have a single good tinkerer and only having one good thief ever.
>using the Loner + Angry Face combo>reach pulsing domain>it doesn't kill clots>team can't kill clots fast enoughIt's so fucking over
>>733697257Act 1 and 2 are not reliant on rng in the slightest. Especially since act 2 is THE counterpick act that can be steamrolled with pierce and aoe. Events are more dangerous than battles at teams and even then, only a handful of modifiers are run enders when you have 2-3 other cats to use.
>>733697105Thats honeslty how i feel too, 70 hours in middle of act e did all the side content and quests my way and only ever wiped twice. If what people itt are seething about is a late act 3 quest then whatever ive already more than gotten my moneies worth but something tells me its not as bad as they're making it out to be either.
>>733697287The game creates problems to make things difficult/annoying so that you can unlock things to make them smoother and easier.Most games work like this.
>>733697287Because you dont really need to know the boosted stats until youve finished act 2 and you dont get the means to properly breed for a while anyway. Plus its the first upgrade it doesnt take that long to get you could just bread some strays, skip a couple of days and get it in less than an hour
>>733697353No having huge aoe and trying to fight pulsing domain is a suicide move anon
>event where you just get two options for stat checks and nothing else>Pick the one where the stat is 11>You got elephantasis!I know it's been said already but this is the worst aspect of the game by an order of magnitude. Most of the game is so well put together and so mechanically deep that it's sort of astounding how half-baked, dull, and frustrating the event mechanic is. I don't care that it's not run-ending, it just feels arbitrary and lame, when none of the rest of the game makes you feel like that.
Any 2 classes combination that generically better than other combinations? I want to finally breed properly.
>character made to make fun of online lefty stereotypes>last name is "newkirk"
>>733697516Something something emergent gameplay chew the steak. Edmund is both a great game design and an awful one. He just cant help himself from putting in really annoying bullshit because he thinks its funny ig.
>>733697516It teaches you to invest in luck
Boo!
>>733697520Most classes benefit from each other's skills. The game encourages you to use every class despite what people in these threads would make you believe. Thief, mage, and clerics are great breeders especially, though
>>733697572It doesn't though because the properties of luck are as obnoxiously opaque as in every other game, and because luck is explicitly a possible stat to check for those events. Luck is as stupid a stat conceptually in this game as it is in 90% of games with it.
>>733697610https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4CO0SU-FIURidiculon can't bring this back.
>>733697516Also dont eat thingsAny event that require eating anything is badEven if you have a high check theres bad option
>tank with 60 hp and full decked out items with item set bonus>made him take that rock form passive and also got eat rock>think i’m smart as fuck taking him to the crater to 1 shot the rock enemies >get the enemy that sucks in rocks and eats them>heh this will be easy with my eat rock ability>that enemy sucks in my tank>one shots my cat because it’s considered a rock60 hp cat and all those items gone just like that
>>733697731I've gotten some great modifiers are really clutch stat ups from eating
what does the Volcano sacrifice do? should i just chuck my good cat in?
>>733696695Did you buy it on Steam ? That's genuinely why. The bandcsmp version is way better. I just bought it myself today
>>733697807It's on bandcamp? Dope.
>>733697839Yeah, I couldn't find it on Khinsider so I just thought fuck it I'll buy it. It's so good it genuinely deserves my money.Got the flacs and they sound amazing
>>733697656Thanks anon.
>>733697879I hope they do a vinyl release through bandcamp. Day 1 preorder.
WHERE'S THAT SMELL COMING FROM?WHERE'S THAT SMELL COMING FROM?
>>733689039I fucked up my cats genetic line and now everyone is heavily inbred and worse their stats are dropping HELP
>>733697790Eating checks almost always have a disease/parasite if you failI just dont see it worth the gamble
>Throbbing King targets downed catsDoes Edmund SERIOUSLY want me to fight a boss with 3 cats while keeping a leveled enemy cat alive for the entire fight as he attacks me?
>>733694041They're still corpses. They have the same icon and you can do fun things like zombify them and blow them up instantly killing them. The only difference is they can take multiple hits before being fully destroyed.>>733691225No sir that is worlds longest and most nothing fetish comic>>733697716They have drastically improved since like Rebirth. This soundtrack is amazing. But yeah they don't got anything near Barry's iconic style.>>733696695They don't have the stems? I know for TEIN soundtrack the only Future track they have is Agony, even though the other remixed levels have full remixes so I had to listen to fan uploads.
>>733697940Just realized you said you wanted specifically the caveman version..don't think that's actually on there since I was also like huh where is it. My bad. AieeeeTis 1 am. Sorry anon
>In the bunker>down in the bunker
>>733698104You can heal corpses anon
Getting random run killing events is starting to piss me the fuck off, nothing in Isaac was this unavoidable and fucked you this hardJust reached Act 3 and my patience is starting to wear thin
>>733698104I savescummed a few times, then said fuck it and decided to fail the quest so I could reroll it to go somewhere else. Trying to keep a 1 max hp cat alive, whose corpse just blows up on the boss' phase transition is dogshit, especially when leaving them alive means they're either buffing the boss or doing four times more damage than the boss itself.
I lost to Godzilla when does she come back ive done a couple runs and she hasn’t come back
>>733698261Announces herself about 3 days after you lose, unless there's another house boss queued up
>>733697786monch cronch
>>733697786What enemy sucks rocks?
>>733698052You need the final solution
>>733697786Kek that happened to a fighter i put the you are a rock pill quest item on. Immediately stevened that fight
>>733698052Time to pipe most of you cats and hope you get good strays as replacements
