Why do you want a game to fail? Why wouldn't you want them to fix it?
Because if you tell them to fix it they call you an incel and go “haters gonna hate” before releasing a game that inevitably flops.
>>733691696Can you tell me a time or two where this happened?
>>733691603>new game gets revealed>it's woke california nigger troonslopYou can't "fix" this shit. You can only watch this garbage continue to fail until maybe the gaming industry learns to stop making them.
they turned their back on their original fans.
>>733691603my parents raised me well enough and I have enough self respect to not release a product that needs “fixing”
>>733691603There's a term called Accelerationism, which is when people try to accelerate the deterioration of a system so that it can quickly collapse.In a /v/ context, anons want games to fail so that the industry as a whole suffers and eventually crashes. Anons would then imagine the industry coming back from the ashes usally in a form similar to how it was in the 90s.
>>733691862Those fans played asteroid and stopped playing games. The same thing has happened to you playing Medievil on PS1.
>>733691603they openly hate you and lecture you that you're bad for liking past thing, same dev.
>>733691603because the people making them are incompetent and proud of it.
>>733691603I actually spend a decent amount of time making mods to fix games and helping others fix their own games and mods. Some devs are just complete assholes who think they're better than everyone else. Some of them are trying to forcefully take something that doesn't belong to them. They cause a lot of problems and drama.
>>733691603Because the devs very openly hate straight white males, which is a group I am a part of. Therefor I want them to fail.
>>733691829Saints Row. They literally tweeted "Haters Gonna Hate" in response to the overwhelming dislikes their trailer got. Guess what happened. This is also currently happening right now to the Lesbian Crusader game.
>>733692049What game would you have played, that you didn't, due to the fact the dev said white men are trash?
Because the game represents philosophies and design choices we heavily opposeThey're not going to 'fix' all the hideous women or the kike monetization schemes. So when games with that stuff fails, the industry sees and is less likely to copy it
>>733691603Twofold path. Supporting the desirable and purging the undesirable
>>733692080What's the Lesbian Crusade? The Saints Row flopping was justified.
>>733692085that one that looked ok. you know the one I’m talking about, was like 2 years ago
>>733692168Ah, so you're upset over nothing
A lot of modern games fail because they feel like they're being made to spite their potential customers.>they don't like wokeslop? okay, let's make out main character an ugly bald half nigger, then we can blame them for it failing and we'll look like the good guys.
>>733691603I want comp shooters to fail so devs quit wasting their time and money on them as opposed to devving a game in any other genre.
>>733691829The one concord dev who called people “talentless freaks”
>>733691603Plenty of reasons.Devs abandoning core design, dei writing, blackwashing, insulting the audience, unskippable boring walk&talk sections, censorship, etc.You can't fix that. You can fix bugs, balance items, replace shitty looking models, even fix certain mechanics, but you can't fix spiteful, lazy, or untalented devs. At a certain point it's actually better to scrap the whole thing and start anew. This is why it's not worth it to support modern garbage, you don't want to reward shitty people making shitty games.
>>733692187you could say these games are inconsequential to me, yes
>>733692289I don't think they get it. Most people aren't going to play multiple hero shooters. You don't look at Overwatch and think "if we make the same exact game, then we can steal their entire audience". But these companies do that all the time. Competitive multiplayer games have to be entirely unique or novel to get an audience, like rocket league. Just make good single player games.
>>733691603Bad decisions deserve to be punished. Publishers won't stop making bad decisions unless they feel enough pain to avoid making those bad decisions.That said, I hardly care. There's a bit of shaundefrere there, but for the most part, I've just stopped caring about the mainstream video game industry and just focus on older games and indie titles. Game publishers spending hundreds of millions to shoot themselves in the foot is kind of background noise now. I'll chuckle when it happens, but none of the games I'm interested in or expecting that are coming out of AAA publishers anyway.
You can't rejuvenate rotten apples.
>>733692606>friends who appreciate my efforts and support meI guess we must've mass hallucinated all those "I'm being laid off, I don't know what to do, I worked so hard on Woke Nigger Fatigue 3" tweets following every major flop.
>>733691603Because the whole bullshit of selling a flawed product that might be "fixed later (but won't)" must fucking die.
>>733691603It's really funny when the game fails and they lose their jobs and broadcast their mental illnesses on social mediaShit's hilarious, I'd pay $80, or however much a modern game is, just for that.
>>7336921361488 sex foto or whatever
>>733691829Literally every single hero shooter except OW and MR
>>733691603Hellfish was such a good episode
>>733691603Because they implement strategies that will do long term permanent damage to the industry
>>733693609most of those same people get a fucking job at another studio anyway. who was that "non binary" whore who married a man anyway that worked on ratched and clank
>>733692187you can "errrm ackhully" all you want, just put the fries in the bag.
>>733691603i want retarded liberals to suffer
>>733694360True, but it's still funny to watch as I just play and replay games from like 15+ years ago
>>733691603I dislike this new status quo of releasing broken as fuck game and everyone simply accepting that it'll get fixed in a patch later. Fucking up should have consequences
So feminists will leave.
>>733691603Some games are fundamentally broken.You can't fix a ship if it's keel is busted. It's doomed to sink regardless of how much patchwork you do.Anthem had this problem. It's system were so fundamentally fucked that they would have had to make an entirely different game to rectify the problemWhen a game is ran and made by dipshits and activist. It can't be fixed. Because the problem isn't the game. It's fundamentally the developers themselves.
>>733695073so is this what they think people want, or are they just trying to push bullshit on people who they know don't want to see it? Everything they do these days almost seem to be done out of spite instead of for any other reason. The people who praise them for adding this garbage don't even play the fucking games.Most of the trannies who idolize Bridget have never even played guilty gear.
>>733693609This.The answer to OP is that I'm far more likely to enjoy spectating a car crash than paying to play some modern game. I don't buy any game unless it's either a decade old or under ten bucks. I grew up and stopped needing the latest game.
>>733691603When it's clear that the dev is never going to return to what made you like earlier entries of a series you can only pray for their downfall and for another studio to make games that fill the abandoned niche.I'm talking about monster hunter.
>>733691603When somebody produces crap and thinks it's gold, if you tell them to take it back and fix it they're just going to double-down on producing crap.
>>733691603Schadenfreude.
>>733695330I'll still buy new games, but I'll never buy them until they've been out for at least a month. /v/ unironically has better opinions that reviewers do.
But if I don't like the game why would I want it to be fixed?
>>733691954What weird ass schizophrenic bullshit is this? lmao
>>733695450>/v/ unironically has better opinions that reviewers do
>>733695268They think this is what people want and anyone that criticizes is a vocal minority that should be ignored because they are hateful bigots.
>>733695358even though i'm not a fan of the maps and seikret in wilds i think every monster hunter has had better combat than the last so i hope they don't listen to you
>>733691603It's culture war stuff. /v/ is not for video game enthusiasts, it's for political activists. The game NEEDS to fail because it's "woke", if the game was fixed and became successful then that would be a loss because then that would mean that "woke" won.
>>733695630when you've been here as long as i have, it's easy to see through the actual shitposts and the genuine comments.
>>733695630/v/ shits on a game blindly while reviewers cocksuck for money, so when 90% of games are crap, then /v/ is going to be correct 90% of the time.
>>733695683So then have they ever tried to introspect on why all of their fucking wokeslop fails?
>>733691603They literally can't. >>733691696Accurate.>>733691829I have been personally insulted, and banned by devs hundreds of times for saying things like "Straight white men won't find this design appealing."
>>733695830Can you explain how marathon is woke?
>>733692049You're a polfag who outlook was shaped by this place.
What is there to fix? The shitty games i want to fail aren't broken, they're functioning exactly as designed their design is just awful garbage that should never have been greenlitThere isn't any fixing it without just making it into an entirely different game
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the most important part of a video game on /v/ right now/for quite a while is what kind of politics it aligns withonly reason i still come to this shithole is to keep an eye out for any games i might've otherwise missed. Without seeing discussion about them on /v/ I would've missed out on Project Moon games (which are some of my absolute favourite), Troubleshooter, Void stranger, I Have To Kill Chaos and probably quite a few more. Only reason I even knew about Dark Souls 1 before launch (before it got big) is because the demons souls lmao 2kat posters were so excited for it.
>>733692085They are incapable of making good games because of their hate of beauty, and games. They literally make them lame, and gay on purpose.>>733695630Why aren't you playing the hit game Concord, or Relootted? Reviewers were having a blast! >>733695692Post your highguard playtime.>>733695870Ugly transvestite character designs with a troon color scheme developed by gay minorities.
>>733691603>d3make>milds>dd2>REtconCapcom deserves to get fucked again.
>>733696010>uuuh all of the characters are trannies. i just know dude ok dont ask me for proof>and the colors? they're uh...tranny colorsThis is fucking embarrassing. You are actually mentally ill.
>>733691603Interesting question. Ask yourself; what would the "fixed" version of a bad game look like? Consider the hundreds of failed Battle Royales, live service games, gachas, etc etc. If they were "fixed", what would they look like? If Highguard didn't look terrible and wasn't utterly pedestrian what would've happened? There would have been a new free to play hero shooter that was holding people hostage and tricking children into becoming gambling addicts via in-game purchases or other anti-consumer garbage. That's what the "fixed" version is. That's the win condition for the studio. Another turd on the collective consciousness, polluting the internet. Most games deserve to fail for similar reasons.
>>733696108Hey man, I didn't make the game don't blame me for the man jaws, and bright pink.
>>733695630Reviewers have consistently shown to be biased and retarded. /v/ might also be retarded but at least when a game is good it usually gets a more positive reception here.
>>733695820Developers at GDC were asked why they think there were so many layoffs and very few believe it's because they made a bad product.
>>733696001>what kind of politics it aligns withEven that doesn't matter, marathon doesn't have any culture war bait at all so /v/ has resorted to just making shit up and saying it "feels woke".
>>733696208of course, if a game does not clearly align with anything then people will just scrape through the game/literally every single twitter post made by anyone who's ever worked on the game so that they can force it to align with something. If there's still nothing then it's time to schizo manifest some retarded bullshit.
Do i need a political reason to hate on yet another battle royale/extraction shooter that's 4 years late to the genre?
>>733696208your game is the next concord, shill
>>733696208Reminder that Bungay hired a shill company to defend Maratroon's honor, lately every post on all sites is fake hype and fellating the game.>Duck away and sippy an armor potion gameplay>Art theft controversyI'll keep reminding you.
>>733696197This is like when stores close and corporate will say it's because the store under-performed, but won't say it under-performed because of theft.
>>733696197"bad product" isn't even an option on this poll unless that's what "other" or "no reason given" is for
>>733696410Correct. So few believe it that it doesn't get it's own category.
>>733696375they'll say product loss sometimes. other companies will lock simple products behind plastic screens. I wonder why.
>>733696001>>733696331Daily reminder that all of this is purposefully encouraged by the indian that runs this place because he thinks that he can use 4chan to influence the political landscape.
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>>733696001I found out about Demon's Souls because someone on /v/ streamed it.
>>733696350trannies: we pass and nobody can tellalso trannies: *wears trans merch in public*
>>733695630yes
>>733691603Why wouldn't you want bad products to fail? Do you see Mobius release and are like "noo just fix it, it can be good". No, fuck 'em.
>>733696716This seems like a no brainer. No Man's Sky and Cyberpunk are like the two games I can think of for games that fucking bombed on release but were fixed and then actually praised later. Most games that get fixed later tend to be marginally playable on initial release.
>>733696108Nah, he's right. It looks like retarded faggot vomit right on the face of it. You sound like a pussy.
>>733691603cant fix the evil that was forced into the games I want to fail.
>>733696706Journos aren't hated enough
>>733696172repulsive art style.I wish death on westoid AAA devs.
>>733691696It's one thing not to pander to everyone, but when someone goes "hey, this shit is literally busted can you fix it?" Why do they take such offense? At the end of the day aren't they making a product to be sold?
>>733696797I wouldn't say it bombed. It sold very well but failed to meet fan expectations.
>>733695630subhuman journalgroid detected
>>733691603>Release a product>It's shit>Say it's shit and don't buy itoh noes why do you want it to fail?!
>>733696172I like how this looks. It's new and interesting. I'm just not in a mood for a new shooter.
>>733691829Happened to battlefield V.
>>733691603Because the radicalized freaks who are making "game" would gladly clap and cheer for the death of my civilization.
>>733695268they rape it to own the chuds and to convert yet another hobby space.if it succeeds then they can spread their faggotry further. if it fails it means less normal shit for them to compete with in the future.
>>733696928Those people are all echo chamber leftoids who aren't used to hearing criticism. They think all criticism MUST come from far right trump supporters, no matter what the criticism is. Must be incel chuds if they hate what I made!
>>733691603>Why wouldn't you want them to fix it?
>>733696928>Why do they take such offense? At the end of the day aren't they making a product to be sold?Because they WORKED SO HARD and OMG YOU WANT PEOPLE TO LOSE THEIR JOBS. Also they're stuck in a toxic positivity loop like Highguard with everyone saying the game will be the next coming so when a lot of people say otherwise they assume those are just rabid haters.
>>733697121>You're an uneducated chud, don't buy the game>Game flopsDelicious
>>733695972Why did he think it'd be a good idea to showcase his American game at a Japanese convention?
>>733697069ah there's the modern audience ready to make another "creative" new game fail lmao
>>733697223I think battlefield fans are very discerning in the way CoD fans arent, they dont like weird fortnite stuff even a little bit.
We have developers that openly hate their audience. These people are just here because it's a lucrative job. We need more layoffs to purge the industry.
>>733697225Its not an American game.
Currently the /v/irgins are ascendant because momentum/budget behind large games is so stupidly massive. It's so easy and cathartic to mock the incoming trainwreck and coastal commies associated. There is no greater sin than being annoying, and there is no greater annoyance than advertisement and grandstanding. God forbid shilling takes the form of "owning the gamer manbabies" or somesuch, that's disaster squared. Who would give the benefit of the doubt to such a project? No, it's much better to kick it while it's down.I'd say the moment that median artfag stops being a tw@tter (et al.) addict will be the moment doomsayers become the more annoying side of the argument. I don't believe direction-brained analysis is broadly appropriate considering a lot of notable artists are lefty perverts and weirdos, but it sure has been vindicated very hard. When the presence of grotesque she-beasts and vaguely ethnic homunculi is all you need to make a fairly accurate judgement, there is no room for nuance.
>>733691603Devs feeling entitled to try to dictate what the audience is allowed to like or not makes you want them to fail on principle of being a bad fucking company. Nobody wants to be patronized and then asked to buy a product. It's like if coca cola started putting salt and bile in its soda and said it's a genius flawless move and you're a morally bankrupt terrible person if you don't like it. They do try new flavors sometimes but it's never at the cost of the original one. Likewise devs shouldn't bastardize successful titles and franchises to try to hijack that established audience for some new thing instead of just let their real desires for a game out into the world and see what it thinks. But they do that because they fucking know inside that it is not what the audience wants and they want to force feed us something we didn't want, and only got madder and madder the more they kept trying to guilt trip us into accepting the new normal for modern audiences. Obviously I am lumping up and generalizing a lot of different devs and titles in one basket but the overall sentiment is from these grievances. The patronizing smarmy nature of their attitudes seals the deal flipping the gaming audience from being naturally receptive to naturally hostile - the devs have to prove themselves to us these days, they are assumed to all be fucking shit until proven otherwise.
>>733691835TRVKE
>>733697187It's fucked. Being humble about your product is very important. A lot of the best games were barely even hyped at all before they come out. Cuphead was announce in 2013 and there was basically no news about it until it finally released and it was a smash hit. Those guys just made the game they wanted to make, not the game they thought was going to be the next big thing. And then it WASNT the next big thing, but it didn't need to be, but people loved it enough that it got a netflix show.
>>733697225desu japs are total ameriboos but when they think of America they think about Texas, not California
>>733692094like nature. it just how it is. we embrace it, the californiacuck devs don't, that is why they die.
>>733697401It might sound unbelievable to some but most people do in fact not want to be negative all the time.But what other option do they have when the environment is so shit and its not even a natural one but one that was artificially created?When things improve the numbers of complainers will go down too.
>>733697458>Cave Story is a jumping-and-shooting action game.>Explore the caves until you reach the ending.>You can also save your game and continue from where you left off.
>>733697617they caused the division in the first place. now they cannot handle it.
>Why do you want a game to fail?So devs can take notes>Why wouldn't you want them to fix it?I would like them to fix it, but the fixes I want don't align with the dev's philosophy or business plan so they almost never fix it
>>733697781>So devs can take notesthey don't, they just blame the potential customers for not liking it for political reasons
>>733697365>Red Thread Games is based in Oslo, NorwayCould've fooled meStill set in America though and is very much a "Western" game
>>733697684Hey I'm not disagreeing, but there are just too many perverse incentives in our fake and gay world. Between retarded revisionism and delusional hoop-jumping of politically-afflicted individuals trying to "claim" X or Y for their side, the actual value is a tertiary concern in online arguments.Should have probably got used to that latter thing, but I still harbor a fleeting hope of talking about cool shit once in a while.
Because they deserve it for making shit? Why should I be personally invested in THEIR success? They ain't fucking paying me to care or do their job.
>>733696197Retard, that graph says>What reason did your current or former company give...As in, 'what did they tell you when they fired your ass?' not 'Why do YOU think you were fired?'
>>733698208see >>733696375They will never say it's because the game is bad.
>>733698129cool shit still gets talked about when its cool shit. cool shit is just such an extreme rarity at this point and thats the reality of it.basically all of western AAA is raped right now and its showing more weakness and cracks every day.so all thats left is indie stuff and a few japanese studios that didnt fall for the western AAA memes yet.only thing I can say about the current situation is that it cannot stay the way it is. massive studios making games their audience doesnt want while game budgets keep bloating up. something is bound to happen in the near future and thats the only thing that gives me peace of mind.
>>733696375If your bad game kills the company you can say you lost your job due to restructuring
>>733695630The people who actually play them do.When someone on /v/ blatantly hasn’t played a game, it’s very easy to spot. They’ll use vagaries, parrot popular talking points and browbeat anyone who argues rather than debate the point.These opinions are child’s play to filter.A journalist will almost never have a worthwhile opinion.
>>733691603All I have to do is just not buy a video game and I can change the world.
>>733698185Yeah, but they'll blame YOU if their game fails. Do you really want that on your conscious?
>>733696706It'd be funny if this guy was like vidya equivalent of Armond White, except every vidya journo is like that already.
>>733697350Cracker and cumskin are such weak and lame insults, wish they'd come up with something better already. Gimme something with a bite or a sting.
>>733691603Because 99.9% of the time, they won't fix it, it's an unreasonable, unrealistic assumption in the first place.
>>733695692This more or less, its not about game quality, it is about >No things I don't like isn't allowed!for /pol/niggers, also i severly doubt much if any of the>hahaha go woke go brokegames would be great successes if they weren't "woke". Oh yeah I am sure some indie games would be a smash hit if it replaced its black MC with a white one.>>733695820Right so, what about the ones that don't fail? It really seems following or not following the strict /pol/nigger rules doesn't correlate with success or failure. Almost as if despite what /pol/niggers say you don't represent normal gamers (or gamers at all) and you going "oooohm not buying" doesn't matter because you aren't really gamers, you are just slacktivists crying about games on 4chan.
>>733697069>It's new and interesting>Not gonna buy it thoYo do see the irony in this, I hope?
>>733696536Rapeape has been a disaster for the site.
>>733692606>food analogy
>>733700903there is neither irony nor hypocrisy presentunless you want to frame SUPPORT THE NEW THING OR ELSE as a moral failure, but that's being a consumerist whore
>>733697146When the criticism is>omg fucking white genocide globohomo woke jew agendaAs seem on /v/ can one blame them
>>733701042There is both when you always see praise of these raped new games everywhere online but when they release they go down the cliff instantly.There is 100% a big group of "people" who bend themselves into pretzels to defend industry actions but do not buy these games at all.
>>733701052one can absolutely blame them.in fact they do blame them, and then see their games fail with joy.
>>733691603But according to shills and games journalists, it's the best thing ever. What's there to fix?
>>733701153your sentiment was a bit unclearyou mocked the resetera attitude of>the game looks like shit and plays even worse but i am gonna defend it to own the chudsbut it can just as easily be interpreted as>i lament the state of the industry and this interests me, but i am unwilling to spend any time or money since i have my live service dailies to grindregardless, there such gotchas only work when people actually express their views in full, it's too easy to twist a single sentence whichever way you want (like i did to your post lmao)
>>733701376actually it was pretty clear.
>>733691603I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here and elaborate a little bit.It's in every business' best interest to sell the least amount of product, for the most amount of money. A good example of this is pic related. I hate using food references, but in this case it fits perfectly. Yes they're selling you a "culinary experience", but really they're selling you less chocolate for more money. The same principle applies to anything, and for video games, they want to sell you a broken ugly game with hardly anything interesting about it for the sole purpose of not offending anyone in hopes of gaining everyone's interest, so they can buy DLCs and microtransactions.I hate this. I hate how fucking ugly the games look, I hate how they haven't taken a risk with new and interesting features, and I hate how their response to any criticism is "Buy the game, chud".This has been going on for a decade, and I won't just ignore your game like I have been, but now I am celebrating your failure. With every failure, either a risk has to be made, or you will continue to fail until you're pushed out by others that did take risks.I do want them to fix it, and the only way for them to fix it, is by failing.
>>733691603Because this place is full of bitter losers that only want others to fail as miserably as they have. It really is that simple.
>>733701445>wow i can't believe somebody misinterpreted my text-only post on the internet, clearly anon is a braindead retardif i was actually that stupid i'd double down and claim you wrote your own post wrong in the first place and actually my own response is the only reasonable thing
>>733692216And they will never learn.If they admit they were wrong about that, they could be wrong about everything else
>>733701192>one can absolutely blame them.How so, when so much of the "criticism" levied here on /v/ is just of identity politics nature, literally no different from Anita's impotent screeching.
>>733695630Thats not a compliment towards /v/
>>733701917this is what your kind would call "victim blaming".shit up games with divisive on purpose idpol then lash out when people call it out.
>>733700815>Right so, what about the ones that don't fail?Deny anyone ever called them woke and if anyone did it was trannies falseflagging and claim the game actually supports your own /pol/ ideals through mental gymnastics that are as convoluted as the ones you used to claim the game was woke. Or pretend it never happened.
>>733701989>shit up games with divisive on purpose idpolRight, having seen /vpol/ niggers scream their lungs out over knane shit as>boobs not big enough>short hair! woke>not making my dick hard! its woke>black person existing in a fantasy setting! WOKE!These people seem to be very eager to be victims at all costs.
>>733702153you dont have to listen to people who make demands like that but dont be surprised when your game fails and people celebrate it.
>>733702153I'm of the opinion that as an artist you can make any kind of video game you want. Do you want to make $3 mil VN about nicaraguan trans fishermen? Be my guest, just don't be surprised nobody wants to buy it.>black person existing in a fantasy setting! WOKE!This one is absolutely correct in most cases, as it shows blacks, whites and asians living together in one rural northern-europe inspired village, which is inserting american/californian values into media where it doesn't make a lick of sense.
>>733691603Because the developers are anti-good and pro-bad.
>>733698375Okay, so how does that relate to DEVELOPERS thinking that they didn't make a bad product? You're trying to infer something based on a poll that has nothing to do with the point. Use that rock you've got between your ears
>>733702461>Okay, so how does that relate to DEVELOPERS thinking that they didn't make a bad product?Because they never say it. There's a podcast that interviews the Concord developers and none of them think they made a bad product, they blamed the market for it's failure. You can also find Highguard developers blaming the market instead of themselves.https://alifewellwasted.com/Listen to episode 9 for the Concord developer interview.
>>733702368>as it shows blacks, whites and asians living together in one rural northern-europe inspired villageBut it isn't northern europe... its wherever the fuck of whatitsname...>Yeah but it LOOKS like it could be there so they don't belongThis is some "cultural appropriation" tier complaint.
>>733691603Sometimes you have a game whose very idea is wrong and completely misunderstand the industry at this moment, and there is no fixing that.For example, it's my fervent hope that any new hero shooter that gets announced flops badly, no matter who develops them or how good they are.
>>733702213See>>733700815Pretending some minor indie game or other game would not have failed had it not been "woke" is stupid. Would it hade made them good games then? And as said there what about the ones that don't fail?A lot of games fail, 4chan chuds liking or disliking a game for their political schizo reasons doesn't determine success.
>>733702613I can almost understand them trying to defend their inner circle fag buddies, but what makes them think that blaming the customer is a good idea ever?
>>733702613ANON. LISTEN. THE POLL. THE ORIGINAL FUCKING IMAGE THAT YOU POSTED. ABOUT COMPANIES GIVING THE REASONS FOR LAYOFFS.HOW DOES THAT RELATE TO DEVELOPERS SPECIFICALLY AND WHAT THEY THINK, WHEN THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT THEIR EMPLOYERS?I'm not even saying all that other shit isn't 100% true, just answer the fucking original question
>>733703253Because they never say it. You will rarely ever hear a company or worker saying they made a bad product. They blame everything but their product.
>>733702752Anon, if provided no information we typically assume fantasy worlds are similar to ours and they still have to follow logic. In a dangerous place where travel options are very limited (especially over long range) there's very little reason for villages with such varying ethnicities. That's just not how travel works, not how world works, not how humans/humanoids work.
>>733702752In a similar (arguably better, because no monsters, "only" dangerous animals and men) conditions in real world most people would not leave their home town for their whole life. I understand that you're an american mutt but multiethnic societies like this are super new historically and not a typical thing you'd find in a medieval(-esque?) setting.
>>733702852actually terrible post jesus christ.yes, being visually and conceptually repulsive absolutely impacts the reception and the success of a game.if a game wants to succeed despite that it will have a self inflicted uphill battle and the amount of flops like that only keeps growing.face the reality or deal with more dead studios.>>733702752fantasy settings need to be internally consistent too.if you do not care about that dont act surprised that the people who do call it out.
>>733702752This is how dumb you sound
>>733703414the only places where it could maybe make sense is trade cities/ports or places with very serious ethnic division where one subjugates the other.
>>733691603because that is the fix?
>>733703539Yeah that's why I said 'village', I don't mind a big trading city with ships going to half the known word to have some diversity and many exotic visitors. Also I can see two major ethnicities living in one place with the country borders being unstable, but it's like white and arab, plausible, or some minority being present across the world like jews, but they mostly keep to themselves. Rural village filled with filipinos, blacks, whites, mexicans, mongolians and whatever the fuck full of mixed families is just unrealistic pandering.
>>733703484>a black person in a setting with medieval aestethic is as dumb as a car in lotrReal honest there.>>733703327So>IT IS NOT ULTRA REALISTICAnita tier complaints. Games don't have to be realistic and when you are graspinp at shit like (auhm people wouldn't travel that far in OUR world) you are just seeking arguments that fit your end goal rather than admitting to actual grievances of the black person existing at all and being black.
>>733691603i want woke games and games with retarded agendas to fail.
>>733703484He clearly knows. He's just being disingenuous and pretending he doesn't understand your point in order to make any sort of argument impossible.
>>733691603>Why do you want a game to fail? Because they won't fix it, and I don't want to see a horrible game succeed, because then more like it might get made. I also simply enjoy seeing the wages of hubris and conceit be paid in full.>Why wouldn't you want them to fix it?I would, and I do. But they won't do it. There's too much """"money"""" in releasing focusgroup-approved safe woke schlock.
I will surely convince them with my nonarguments if I compare them to anita sarkesian
>>733703717That's a nice strawman you've built. You must be proud.I accept your concession.
>>733703741I remember seeing a quote from a famous painter saying the joos will argue by pretending not to understand your argument...
>>733691603Corruption can only be purified by fire.
>>733691603For me it's not a matter of wanting them to fail, but rather having some fun while watching them do so.
>>733703717Ok. The main grievance behind the criticism of non-European ethnicities being in a medieval European setting that it doesn't reflect history. Race is one of the more obvious things that would stand out in a story like this. This is important as it suggests that the developers did not care about the actual setting, rather they just want to copy a few aspects of it to lazily get points from both fans of diversity and fans of medieval Europe. This ultimately hints at a lack of passion in one area which leads to people viewing every aspect as lacking passion.
>>733694618You sound like you're in pain
>>733696928>Why do they take such offense? They're DEI hires on 10 different SSRIs who believe in the theory of labor (I worked, therefore I deserve recognition, money and praise no matter what the work actually was) and are stuck in an environment of extreme toxic positivity no matter what, where they spend more time talking about black "culture" and pronouns than game-design.
>>733691603Spite>have favourite franchise >new direction says franchise is out of date and needs to be modernised>ignore fans concerns >new game does poorer than before >then devs say they are going back to the franchise's roots>fans start to hope again >next sequel is an even further deviation from the initial series with just a thin veneer of nostalgia bait>all old characters get ruined to prop up shitty new characters >old game mechanics are streamlined to the point that they are a generic mess>franchise dies>fans are blamed for this as they were too toxic >new games from different places release >they all have similar characters to the games that ruined your favourite franchises>they all have similarly shallow mechanics If devs don't want to listen to the fans then fuck them. They deserve it.
>>733705640Funny how much SJWs harped on about muh entitlement, if they're acting like this.
>>733691603>Why wouldn't you want them to fix it?That would be dismissive of their creative vision unironically, the version they release day one is the version they worked on for years and wanted you to see. Studios would rather lose millions than have to change for options of people they hate
>>733705831Every accusation from them is always projection. They make up flaws about you that are either entirely false or minimally present, then they take over and exhibit those flaws full force. It's always the same technique, "I made up that you being in power would not be 100% perfect, therefore you should let me (an obviously evil spiteful mutant) be in power instead".
>>733691603>fixThat implies there's anything of value to salvage. The only way to "fix" a shit game is to kill them quickly.
>>733696208>marathon doesn't have any culture war bait at allBut it looks like complete shit
>>733703924>strawmanI fon't think you know what that eord means
>>733703741>>733703985>polniggers have to hug eachothers in tears when their bullshit faces pushbackIronic
>>733691603Because seeing other people fail gives me the tingles.
>>733691603Because bad, stupid, degenerate, cancerous, or Enshittifying things makes the world a worse place for anyone with an IQ over 105, and the brown, foidal, and/or retarded pieces of subhuman cat and dog shit who keep producing such shit deserve to fail and die, and it would make the world a better place if they did.
>>733691940>There's a term called AccelerationismIt's literally the most failed concept in human history, as Canada and England prove.
You cannot fix woke and political correctness. It is a mindset. You cannot fix the game that has these things without removing the people who made it.
