Can a game bridge the rift between fightan game and platform fighter fans? Or is it doomed to alienate both playerbases?
it's doomed to filter everyone, including /v/ the notoriously casual board
>>733692753so ryu/ken/terry in smash essentially? no thanks
>>733692753>Hey you know all those melee clones that died?>Let's make another one of those, but add in even more mechanicsI will never understand why these platform fighter indie games never try to emulate the Smash games that are actually popular.
>>733692753I can't.
>>733692753I can't. I only like tekken and pokken and tekken 8 is ass
>>733692753Character designs are too ass
>>733694880Those characters suck to play as because they're in Ultimate however
>>733692753Play real fighting games or smash bros not this frankenstein. Also why is every smash clone a furry game?
This game is sick and it genuinely pisses me off that people aren't going to give it a chance. Fucking faggots, all of you.
The commonality between all of the flopped Smash competitors is a lack of meaningful singleplayer content to make up for the natural lack of polish and popular characters that Smash hasIs this game any different, or does it think that casuals give even a remote fuck about fighting game mechanics?
Why is it that the fighting game genre is the only one where you're not allowed to try anything new or different?>Crash Team Racing? F-Zero GX? Burnout Paradise? Kirby Air Riders? I don't get why these developers keep making racing games when you can just play Forza or Mario Kart...>Bubble Bobble? Puyo-Puyo? Lumines? Meteos? Baba is You? Stephen's Sausage Roll? I don't get it, Tetris already exists, bro...>Lies of P? Lords of the Fallen? The Surge? Nioh? Wuchang? What are these retards doing? Dark Souls already exists, no one but FromSoft is allowed to make ARPGs, and all these rip-offs are too different anyway...
>>733696636>character designs are ugly>if I wanted to play a platform fighter, I'd play a platform fighter>if I wanted to play a traditional fighter, I'd play a traditional fighter>this hybrid shit appeals to nobody except for this extreme niche of people that like Melee and 3rd Strike>I have indie platform fighter fatigueno thanks
>>733696992It has a co-op roguelite mode that looks fun, but Smash players will look at it and say>I GUESS it's okay, but it's no [boring platformer mode carried by cutscenes / roguelite mode that was trapped on the 3DS / PNG of a map full of imbalanced event battles]>Where are all my favorite brands and IPs?and then never play it again
>>733697164Fighting games are plenty different. It's just that retards like (You) can't tell the difference because you don't play the genre.Imagine trying to say that SF6, CotW, Blazblue, Tekken 8, Killer Instinct and MvC3 are all the same.
>>733697173Not beating the faggot accusation with this post
>>733697376>anon calls me a faggot while shilling furry melee clone #138
>>733694994almost every single melee clone that failed was flawed in some major way that had nothing to do with making a game in the platform fighter genre, though
it does genuinely look like a cool game, and I have it in my wishlist, its just after trying SF6 and hating how dependent on the system mechanics I had to be, lest lose, and that id have to memorize combos, i came to hate the rigidity of multiplayer games again.i think league is one of the few multiplayer games I can ever enjoy, and thats just because of how many champions it has, items it has, and objectives it has, and how the game is always constantly changing, so that there isnt necessarily a dominant system, and even if there is, there are so many options and interactions, that theres always something to play around with.Street Fighter 6 reminded me how unfun multiplayer games can be, how much it becomes focused on winning rather than fun. I was genuinely ass at league, legit ass. I know league is one of those knowledge/experience heavy games where you have to play a lot to develop, so I didnt play that much. But the game was fun, aside from balance even when I was ass.In SF6, its like I knew exactly what I had to improve on to win, how many hours id have to spend in the lab, but I had no desire to, because I couldnt learn while playing, the game and its system mechanics dont let you, whereas. League is a game fundamentally about experience. I even tried to learn CSing in the practice mode, and it doesnt work, because league is such a dynamic game that you cant simply run your rigid script.Anyway if you understood all this, then you understand why Ive given up on multiplayer games in general, especially fighting games. I dont find them fun to get better at. And if I already cant get myself to play the one multiplayer game I enjoy principally (League) then why would I for anything else? Except maybe deadlock.
>melee clone>plays nothing like Melee???
>saves the FGC
>>733692753Combos n' shit was never the thing separating platform and traditional fighters. The issue has always been that the movement and knockout systems these games have is diametrically opposed to the normal defensive and stall game. The only way to really start to bridge the two would be to remove the whole edgeguarding and ledgetrapping element altogether, but then you'd still have issues with keepaway being nothing like usual turtling and not being as easy to design with penalizing systems like Negative Penalty, RISC, or Yomi Depression
>>733692753that footage looks cool but i'm not playing a game with no chicks in it. where's the hot fox bitch or a cat slut?
>>733692753Just be different genres. People who want to play your game are going to play it.
>>733692753the trick is to make a game that's way bigger than both communities, such that it doesn't matter whether fgc and smash heads join in
>>733699120trigger warning on this image btw
>>733699536>both the girls are humanWHAT the FUCK?oh, wait, there are a lot of humans here. somehow i thought this was a Rivals of Aether situation where every character was an anthro. Blaire a cute.
>>733692753I like the idea but the character designs are really fucking bland and the gameplay looks agonizingly slow from the clips I've seen, hope I'm wrong but even then it's going to be kinda hard to get excited about playing any of these >>733699536 fuckers unless one of them has an extremely cool gimmick or something
>>733699758>>733697478>>733696368you all thought it was a furry game because one of the four characters in the OP webm is an animal? what is with this board man
>>733694489Depends on how many new players join, but games with meta built around specific intricate inputs usually have newcomers get dogpiled and quit. The same will happen with GunZ if it eventually releases on steam
>>733698717>City>Country>Continent>[other]>Country>Country>Country>Country>Region>Country>[other]This bothers my autism
>>733696992Couldn't you make an engine like musou but with strict character movesets and let player use "their own" characters totally not ripped from other games™ conveniently made available somewhere? Since smashfags are unable to touch anything without bingbing wahoo man & co
>>733700023Are you new? Furfags have always had the most enduring group of haters on /v/ and /b/ since the sites inception
>>733699536Black guys outfit looks odd next to the rest of them. Like some South American attending the Oscars.>>733699758Over half of them are animals. The large lizard has gay bara energy and the fox and smaller lizard looks like western cereal packet mascots.The sword chick is just a soul calibur chick.Skater is generic. Gorilla is cool but seems similar to to guilty gears designs.The tribal chick with a mask and sidekick is cool.
>>733701113I think Achilles is a robot.
>>733700023people are obsessed with furries and would be calling Banjo-Kazooie and Donkey Kong Country furry if they released today
>>733700757You're describing Rivals of Aether Workshop
>>733692753thats not a fighting game thats smash bros
we need to retire the term smash clone / melee cloneit has lost all meaning
>>733695409T7 netplay is still solid and you have arkadyzja for TTT1/T3 >>733692753nope. all that can do that is trying the game and seeing if you like it, melee is a mess but it was kinda fun, i'd honestly rate it over many "real" fighting games.
>>733692753Platform fighters are not fighting games>b-but Nope, they are not fighting games, no matter how many half baked mechanics you throw in.
>>733704723Why?
>>733697328>>I GUESS it's okay, but it's no [boring platformer mode carried by cutscenes / roguelite mode that was trapped on the 3DS / PNG of a map full of imbalanced event battles]>>Where are all my favorite brands and IPs?
I had my fill. It was fun while it lasted. Maybe something will grab my attention again at some point.
is this what normies want out of fighting games? this and long story modes?
>>733694994none of what's in OP looks like a melee clone
>>733692753fighting games are a nortubel tier genre
>>733706018>long story modesYes
>>733698717>go to Evo Mexico>get dunked in acid for beating a drug lord's kid
>>733706541PROHIBIDO JUGAR CON RUGAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>733706541>go to Evo America>get put in a concentration camp
Smash players play Smash because it has Mario and Zelda and bing wing wahoo. Everything else surrounding it is glazed to high heavens.
>>733694994>try to emulate the Smash games that are actually popularBeeecuz in order to do that, you would need actual likeable all star characters. HUGE hitters. No body wants to play a game with fucking no bodies. No one wants to play game where the mechanics are a dime of dozen stolen from "DUDE WOULDNT IT COOL TO ADD THIS FROM GAME I PLAYED FOR A BIT AT A PIZZAHUT" trying hard to get tourneyfags to play when they go back to melee. STOP MAKING games for melee tards. Stop making platforming fighters if all you can do is just steal shit from games that did theirs better.
Thoughts on Akuma in 3rd strike and alpha 3? Worth picking up?
Looks interesting, not gonna lie.
>>733694994You're not getting Smash money no matter what so you may as well make the game you want to play, for freaks.
>>733707929>least annoying rosterfag
>>733706018It's obviously a Subspace emissary reskin/clone/ripoff. Even the portals look extremely similar...
>>733709313>It's obviously a reskin of Subspace Emissary>it also uses very similar stat icons to Smash RunOh no, someone's actually developing something that Smash fans have been begging for for years. This is terrible.
>>733692753>uhhh its super well designed!!!>it has parries>dodges>shields>alpha counters>wavedashes>air combos>ground bounces>a super meter>with EX moves>wall bouncesyeah you know that's too many shitty mechanics being packed in together for no reason rather than actually having a coherent gameplay design?its the epitome of slop, just putting in everything it can
>>733710891what's incoherent about it?
>>733709313>>733709775but subspace blows. i believe it's one of those things people say they want but it's just nostalgia speaking. superarmor bosses = not fun. unless they really lean on the co-op aspects that is
>>733698717Sony and Bungie should sue the saudis for stealing Marathons colour scheme.
>>733706368when was the last time a fightan game shipped with a VN?
>>733710891You haven't even played the game.
>>733698717all of those events will have rivals 2 btw
>Cute Aztec goddess in your gameYup I'm backin
>>733720451Wei Shan bros we are so back.
>>733718857>Rosalina with a disjoint and a 5-star recovery, whatever that meansI am... concerned.
>>733717040*loud buzzer*WRONG
