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Strive and its consequences. Discuss
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>>733706486
trannies need to kill themselves, there I saved you a thread going to bump limit
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>>733706486
its funny, you would think this one character being made a troon wouldn't matter in a fighting game with a weird obscure story, but what they did permanently killed guilty gear.
People like to make fun of chuds for being contrarians while everyone enjoys themselves, but here is a franchise they murdered with no mercy or quarter given.
And when you analyze their sad attempt at reviving it with lucy, its just so pathetic you gotta feel sorry for the.
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>>733706486
Hmm it's still alive and a big expansion update is coming so no. Maybe after the update we'll see the whole consequences.
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Love the characters, lore, music
Hate the gameplay
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Guilty Gear was objectively cool and tightly gatekept. This is what entices trannies to want to penetrate it even more. It's a territory game to them, and now because of the lack of gatekeeping, one of the most esteemed series has fallen. Strive is shit and not GG anyway though so they can have it.
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>Make game with horrifically punishing counter system
>Add characters that have basic TODs if they counterhit because blocking loses you the game
>Add Happy Chaos who completely throws the concept of learning frame data out the window because of the variable nature of his gun
>Release dogshit characters throughout the latest season of the game because you've made too many characters that define the metagame in your first year

I'm curious what the next update can do but I've never put more time into Strive than when it was first released. But I do think for all the concerns I had about the simplified controls, playing Strive optimally still requires a brain cell or 3. The gatling changes are probably the least offensive design concession looking back.
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>>733706486
Don't follow this shit. Did they truly give Dizzy a burka? What's the point of that character if she can't be sexy?
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>>733706486
They've been disastrous for my dick.
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strive saved gg
strive 2.0 will mog every other fightan numbers besides sf6 but that's only cause jappas are insane for that shit game lmao
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>>733706486
hated the wallbreaks, hated the homogenized roster-wide gatlings, hated the (lack of) movement, hated how attempting an air combo will yank the opponent 20 feet away from you
not even the music stands up anymore. pretty much all of the good tracks are from the vanilla cast with a couple DLC outliers
fuck this game
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>>733710146
>strive 2.0 will mog

Only if they finally butcher HC.
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>>733706486
I liked it desu
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>Strive
was/is good
>and its consequences
weren't any
>discuss
nah
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>>733706486
It replaced Skullgirls for being the most revisionist gay fighting game ever.
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>>733710349
>not even the music stands up anymore. pretty much all of the good tracks are from the vanilla cast with a couple DLC outliers
I agree. the dlc songs were so ass, only baiken and that one aprt of HC song are good.
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>>733713020
that's still skullgirls
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>>733713185
bedmans "the circle" is the best track in the game you fucking faggot
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>>733713227
SG is dead, little bro.
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>>733709090
>>Add Happy Chaos who completely throws the concept of learning frame data out the window because of the variable nature of his gun
Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?
>inb4 everything is plus because of gunshot
How do you think he's placing the shots? He's trying to plug the holes in his strings so obviously he needs to know where those holes are in the first place
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>>733706486
Got this on switch and bought the Lucy dlc. She's fun but the online is literally dead right now. The other guilty gears blow this one out of the water though.
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>>733706486
I like how they changed some characters but across the board everyone got hit with the SFV hammer where they're just budget versions of themselves or a completely different character. All the Valentines got hit hard with only jacko winning its a crime what happened to Ram and dare I say, Elphelt. I don't like how the combos feel in this game, it almost reminds me of MK where you just dribble the opponent off the ground. I liked most of the confirms in the older games like how in Xrd Jam could land f.S counter into an iad on a standing opponent or doing the jump intstalls with chipp, most of the combo routings aren't that fun anymore. The best asset of this game is the visuals because it looks great at the cost of everything else.
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>>733706486
Killed Guilty Gear, a once beloved series. Its failure is the ultimate proof that appealing to bandwagoning trannies will give you nothing but ask for your soul in return.
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>>733714392
yeah all my favorites got a gut punch to their playstyles. bedman, ram, dizzy, may...
but the worst offender for me it's how they completely removed the absolute staple GG mixup 'low airdash overhead/empty low' for what, quick dust RC/2k? what a travesty
I remember my friend had a genuine epiphany when he was getting hit by my dizzy's low airdash jK in xrd
>he asks: why am I crouching when I can clearly see you in the air
>I explain he's trying to defend against an empty jump low. when I do an airdash that low in the air, it messes up the jump timing and you think I'm already on the ground
>hfw
that's how good that shit was. dude was hooked to the game from that point on
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>>733714392
Xrd Ram is an extremely boring and shitty character. They were right to redesign here, the problem is that despite making her play differently, she's still just as boring and unfun as before just in a new way.
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how did gg have such a playerbase shift from xrd to strive, is it really just bridget? gg players used to be the same as melty players
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>>733715868
What kind of shift?
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>>733715427
Honestly I agree, she was pretty one note and you only ever used a couple strings and f.S into knockdown -> death but her iteration in Strive didn't even keep anything that made her unique and that's what the main problem is to me. She has the juri issue where they aren't sure what she wants to be.
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>>733715868
true fans vs. bandwagoners who just 'play' because of bridget
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>>733715868
old gg never had a playerbase lmaooo
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>>733715289
>it's failure
>most successful gg ever
>second most successful arcsy game after strive
>after five years still strong numbers and tournament presence
>so successful they decided to keep supporting it with a completely new revision
but anon said it failed lmao
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>>733706486
>Strive and its consequences
Record Bridget merch profits.
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>>733717291
You have a golem's idea of success. True success is respect, legacy and fundamental merit. Selling out is an even greater failure than not even trying at all, even if it offers what seems like success in the short-term. So yeah, Strive is a failure and it put GG on its deathbed - difference is that it once would have been joined by its beloved fans on that deathbed, sad to see it go. Now it'll die alone, with nobody caring about it, forgotten as all the "GG fans" have moved on to whatever the next thing that panders to trannies is.
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>>733715868
Old GG playerbase was annoying fags and nu GG playerbase consists of both some of those same annoying fags with some new ones since more people actually want to play it instead of pretending to. It's the same shit but with a larger population complete with the same way you should ignore anyone that gives a shit about bridget now as back then.
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>>733706486
Arc Sloppy Works was never good
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>>733717425
>respect
Lol
Also it's been 5 years since strive released with a new update coming this shit and it's success is beyond short term now. arcsys has acquired an entirely new and much larger group of fans as of dbfz and THEN strive to the point that the group that cherish and enjoy strive is about 100 times if not more larger than the group of old beloved fans. Even if every single strive player was a tranny who got it because of pandering, they would have moved on already if that was the case but the game is still trucking and people are still showing out to play it.



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