With all the re-releases of classic fighting games with rollback netcode I wonder when they are going to do it for USF4.I tried it recently and the netcode is just fucking terrible.
USF4 will never get rollback because the entire community would go back to it right away. TNS did a USF4 a few months back with Jwong and Yipes on commentary and they were raving about how great USF4 was and how good it was to not have neutral skip slop
>>733706643If Capcom could somehow make USF4's net code just like SF6's then the game would be godlike.I think the main issue here is how will Capcom re-sell the game, it's kinda already complete.
>>733706787That's just oldfags being faggots and using practical reasons to not play the gameUMVC3 gets regular tournaments on TNS and it's in the same boat when it comes to netplayYou can also look at how Xrd also got rollback and yet the population didn't increase at all
>>733706797yeah, tried playing against some dudes in my region and I had around 1 second delay for everything. it was awful.
>Nostalgia faggotryWorse SF game ever, pulled me off fighting games completely and i was only able to be back into it with KoF XIII and SF5 years later.
>>733707638>i was only able to be back into it with KoF XIII and SF5 years later.Shit taste to think SF5 is even good I skipped 5 and played 6 and 6 has the other opposite problem
>>733707638KOF 13 is atrocious, god your taste is bad
>>733706787sf4 was the start of neutral skip slop thanks to focus.and it seems people forget you get 2 free ultras EVERY ROUND for losing.also keep in mind sf4 re-releasing on ps4 did nothing.however, even if you're not a fan of sf4, you gotta hate the fans for bailing near the end when the game started getting solved with proper setplay/oki.this is when a game is the most competitive.
>>733706643when we get UMVC3 rollback (aka never ever)
>>733706643I reached 3900pp (your skill as a player) without knowing anything about frames
>>733708779>sf4 was the start of neutral skip slop thanks to focus.SF3 did it first with parries.
>>733709956Fyi, 4k pp is where tournament and amateur pros are at
>>733707638>KoF XIII and SF5 in the same sentenceWho let this guy in the kitchen?>>733708490I take it you're someone who played that shit re-release that came out recently?
so the joke is that everyone knows that the third world shitters who play fighting games only play on wifi?
>>733712606Brazilian kens were a real thing back in the sf4 days lol
>artificially high skil floor>lots of non interactive gameplay >unbalanced >frustrating cheesy strats at all skill levels>small playerbase >dogshit netcode>locked framerates>expensive fg are only fun when you play with an evenly matched friend
>>733712947>artificially high skil floorWhat does that mean?
>>733706643I really want streetfighter and a fight stick
>>733713136needing to memorize arbitrary combo and strong flowcharts
>>733713290???
>>733713408Combos are bad game design
>>733713475?????
>>733713475>Combos are bad game designthis is truejuggling combos are terrible
>>733713475git gud.
>>733706787lmao they absolutely wouldnt.
>>733706787trueSF4 was the greatest tournament fighter ever made
>>733713738What makes you think so? We're all just pretending to like SF6 because anything else is either dead and/or shit
>>733708779>this is when a game is the most competitive.its also when a game shows its true colors and that was rather ugly for SF4. game only got shittier with AE and later and part of it was exactly because it got figured out better.
>>733713728getting good in fg is boring that's the problem
>>733713820SF6 is dogshit and probably the worst fighting game ever made that doesnt change that nobody will ever return to SF4.Everybody was fucking tired of it by the end of it and the nonsensical execution/setplay grind involved makes it too high maintenance to play when its not the current thing.I see old games with no online at all get more play as side games at events than SF4.Part of me wishes to see the epic SF4 rollback release just to experience the coping that would follow.
>>733713290>>733713475Why are you in a fg thread, let alone a sf4 thread if you can't handle combos lol
Post coolest ultras, i'll starthttps://youtu.be/wFwX4MA6TTA?si=HpSnbtFKx_PJATiG
>>733715106Y'all niggas just phony. I put that on my mama and my dead homies
ULTIMATEPSYCHOCRUSHAAAAAA
>>733706643I think about this very so often too. It's a shame the last good looking Street Fighter game can't be brought back because it'd undermine the enshittified SF5 and SF6. Remeber that eceleb psyop about SF4 being ugly? Despite it, to this day, being the best any of the characters have ever looked in 3D?
>>733706643Street fighter 4th strike when? That’s when I’ll start giving a shit about street fighter.
>>733716892Wth is that?
>>733716892They'll probably make an Ultra Street Fighter 3 one day. >>733717123This GIF is for (You)
>>733717190It was merely a q
>>733706787kek retards on /v/ genuinely believe thisthey re-released turd strike and mvc2 a long time ago with rollback and nobody went back despite being "better" games lmao
>>733717621nigger, 3s is one of the most active online fgs, just not the jewish capcum version
>>733717890post the fightcade lobby player count so I can laugh at you macaco
>>733717961400 players
>>733718184>not even 1K for the "best" street fighter game>not even 900 for the "best" street fighter game on rollback netcode>not even 800 for the "best" street fighter game on rollback netcode that is free>not even 700 for the "best" street fighter game on rollback netcode that is free and with south america boost>not even 600 for the "best" street fighter game on rollback netcode that is free and with south America boost and is constantly shilled online>not even 500 for the "best" street fighter game on rollback netcode that is free and with south America boost and is constantly shilled online and le moment 69this is the game that is scaring Capcom from taking over SF6 player base btw
>>733715106I hope Hakan comes backJuri, Hakan, and C. Viper are all S-tier SF4 characters in terms of designEl Fuerte, Abel, and Decapre are boring and suckRufus is cool
>>733718973Yeah for sureAlso hakan was a damn pita to play against. I kept falling for forward medium punch into getting 50/50'd kek
>>733718973>hakan is the best character oiled up
>>733718898>nobody is playing>okay, some people are planing but its not up to my arbitrary standardshave fun with sf6
>>733719682>arbitrarythis argument started with this post >>733706787read what is says retard
>>733718973I never understood the hate abel got. He looks street fightery enough and is also really strong
>>733720102his kit is cool, but his amnesia storyline, VA, and default design is all too boring.He's supposed to be a GSP inspired MMA fighter, but he's nowhere near as intersting
>>733706787I truly believe that USF4 is probably the best competitive game in existence, but even if it gets a rollback netcode, at best it will be like 3rd strike in terms of revival. Fighting games people are all about the new hot shit in the market. Only a few go back. Besides, this "normification" SF6 introduced to the formula seems to be resonating to the next generation of fighting players, since they cannot pull a classic style combo to save their lives, and cant deal with neutral game thinking because they have short attention span
>>733720870>Fighting games people are all about the new hot shit in the markettell that to smash playersAlso, zoomers today couldn't handle not having Modern controls, and would genuinely not believe the game would ask something as difficult as a 1-frame link in an age where new fighting games are coming out with 1-button special moves.>I truly believe that USF4 is probably the best competitive game in existenceSame.
>>733720782Idc about fighting game storylines personally but he never really stuck out outside of his kit. Now his kit? Bruh what were they smoking. Infiltration picked him for a high stake tourney just to abuse his st.lk lol
>>733720102Im thinking from the way he was playing, he seems to be Alex's replacement, which kinda sucked, even if Alex had failed to become the new face of SF during 3rd strike
>>733706787The people who would go back to SF4 are already playing it. Everyone else either quit fighting games or decided to chase after money above all else.
USF4 was best street fighter because it had muh boi. When is he gonna make another appearance in street fighter?
>>733722184How was he supposed to be alex's replacement? Being a brawler/grappler?
>>733706643>Best roster>Best intro (indestructible)>Best disrespect options (cancellable taunts, Ken's mid combo taunt cancel to ultra, MBison's metallic suit etc)>Good soundtrack and remixes>The announcer VA is hype>Best tournament history>Sky is the limit when it comes to skill>You can still play well even if you do bread and butter combos>Focus mechanic is not as black n white as parry or retarded as DR/DI>Arcade ladder with a rival, bonus stages, and a boss>Charming artstyle that still looks good>Decent AIWe didnt know how good with had it with USF4
>>733722454They're done bringing back SF4 characters until the next game. You'll get El Fuerte or Hakan there
>>733722528Nothing official, just a theory of mine based on Guile and Nash existence. They tried to re-invent Alex somehow with Abel, but the result was lukewarm. Personally, I like Abel as well.
>>733708779>game started getting solved with set play no it didn't, watch any tournament from 2015, it wasn't a vortex fest. In fact vortex was the weakest it had ever been
i always got filtered by blanka and guile in this game.
>>733723298They are never bringing back Hakan. He's too cool for the shitshow SF is now.
>>733708779>2 free ultras EVERY ROUND for losingI dont see how is this bad? It was a comeback mechanic, and it was great. It would have been trash if you could do maximum damage from the start, but it worked great since the damage was tied to your health pool.You want bad? Check how super meter works on SF6. Now you can store lvl3 super and get the chance to fuck up your opponent once the next round starts. It sucks
>>733723954Level 3s suck, and ultras suck. Both can be true. I like SF4 though but comeback mechanics are wack
>>733706643The most universally liked SF, and the one with by far the least amount of flaws outside of the netcode. However I still don't think it would get more than 1 active players on steam, most of the core playerbase has moved on, and new players want to play the newest games. Also a lot of the flaws people come up with are just 16er memes used when there was gamewarring between 4 and 5. Like vortexes in USF4 are not even close to as bad as standard SF6 oki. Or that it was super unbalanced, when tons of the cast got played at high level. Watch any tournament from that time and it will probably be hype
>>733723785I'VE GOT 6KHRS IN SF4 AND I STILL HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO FIGHT BLANKA. LIKE AT ALL. HE'S A LINESTEPPER. HABITUALLY. HE'S A HABITUAL LINESTEPPER
>>733724395>However I still don't think it would get more than 1 active players on steam, most of the core playerbase has moved on, and new players want to play the newest games.i logged in yesterday and saw some people in the ranked and custom lobbies.the entcode is probably the only thing keeping this game from having a healthy playerbase.I wouldnt say thousands of people but if it ever gets fightcade tier numbers it would be enough for me.
vortex fighter 4jab fighter 4
>>733713475Calm down, Sakurai
>>733723427Yeah i guess that makes sense. Alex was barely a functioning character in third strike, i guess they wanted move on from that
>>733723298>FuertePELASE, NO
>>733725593I woud ahve loved a usf4 version of alex.
>>733725593>Alex was barely a functioning character in third strikeThen why does he get played a lot on fightcade?
>>733726219because he is cool>t.Alex main
>>733726416Actually I was a Q main.
>>733726219nta, but no, he doesnt get picked frequent enough. Perhaps Alex players got increased these days due to Alex coming to SF6, but 3rd Strike is still a Ken game
>>733726549Q is also cool
>>733726582>but 3rd Strike is still a Ken gameYou don't watch too many fightcade games do you?Everyone gets played on fightcade, even the shittiest character, Sean.
>>733725962That'd be pretty sick honestly>>733726219Because he's cool lol. On a comp level, he can-t compete
>>733726863>On a comp level, he can-t compete>parroting the Ken/Chunli meme.Plenty of characters get used in comp. Just watch any Japanese competition.
>>733726975jap competitions are usually low stakes or have some sort ruling, like the team ones where you cant repeat characters.also he is not that used there either and when he does he usually explodes.
>>733726692>You don't watch too many fightcade games do you?I actually play once or twice every week. I dont know if tournaments are happening, so I dont see them. Yes, people will pick every character, but the most frequent picks are ken, then ryu then dudley and then urien. In fact, out of 5 games, the 3 of them will be with a ken player. Thats my experience with 3rd strike on Fightcade
>>733727593Ryu and Dudley aren't eve top tier. Those getting picked is good.
>>733727694dudley is absolutely top tier in third strike dude
I made people ragequit when i played a bit of 3s on fightcade as dudley because the timings on my bodyblow super varied each time. They couldn't punish me because of it. I used it as a means to get in/go through fireballs
>>733727816He has never been.Top tier has always been Ken, Chun, and Yun.Dudley has always been A tier. Not best but not bad.
>>733727927isnt A tiers also top tier?he is no yun or chun but he is on the same level as mokoto, urien and yang
>>733728000S tier is top tier.A tier is not best but not bad.How do you not know this shit?
>>733727694People tend to master easy to learn characters on Fightcade. I have yet to meet a good yin/yun and chun-li player. Ken players on the other hand(and some Uriens), are good because ken is almost top tier character, but he is easy to learn and play, and also does stupid good damageWhen it comes to 3rd Strike, I personally classify the one half of the roster to "viables", and the other half "to unviables". Alex is an unviable character because he has no good counter attacks to get him out of hard spots, mid mix ups, cant keep up with fast characters, and his charged attacks are almost as easy to see and parry, as Q's charged attacks
>>7337281093S has actually the largest roster of viable characters.The only person I haven't seen win shit is Sean.Everyone else at least gets wins over the top tier characters.
>>733728000It's good tier. S tiers are in a league of their own. A tiers can't compete with s tiers if both players are equally good>>733728000
>>733728081because every single tier list has characters in A tier as top tier and usually the S+ is for characters that are god tier kind of thing.
>>733728176Id say its 70% viable and 30% unviable.Everyone after Ryu cant really keep up with the A and S characters. Expect perhaps Hugo. Hugo is a weird case, and I feel that he is not truly a low tier. He may have some shit attacks, and probably cant keep up with S tiers, but he can be dangerous in the hands of someone who knows how to play the game. For me he is B like ryu>The only person I haven't seen win shit is SeanI have seen 12s winning S tier characters, mostly because players are not accustomed to 12s playstyle. In any case, with the exception of hugo, the unviable characters cannot win a pro tournament
>>733728642hugo is just on low tier because some match ups are really hard. else a single parry sends niggas flying
>>733728642I've seen plenty of Qs and Twelves take out Kens and Chuns before.The problem with S tier characters is the players get lazy because you don't have to be good to play them.
>>733728784>The problem with S tier characters is the players get lazy because you don't have to be good to play them.Thats for ken only, hence why he is a favorite pick. Yun has low health pool and difficult juggle combos (some good ones require the kara bug) and chun, while she is easier to learn than yun, she still requires some dexterity to use her. Yun and chun li are not easy to learn
>>733729554Chun is just like Ken in that she's braindead easy to play so you don't have to be good.
>>733727836
anyone wanna play some third strike matches later?
