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Post combat webms.
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>>733710030
These dudes are always good with patches. Looks like damage taken while attacking bonuses got a blanket nerf and honestly they deserved it.
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>>733710360
they didn't fix the deflection expert bug
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>>733710301
>Post combat webms
I'm still faffing about, but I think I'm comfortable enough flailing unskillfully pressing buttons to post footage
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>>733710360
not too bad, I'll live
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>>733710473
Well, that's down from how much, 80%?
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>Added Set Bonus to the Special Effect 1 and Special Effect 2 item filters.

Should've been in at launch, especially for NG+ where you couldn't filter graces. And the storehouse is fucked up since it has none of the inventory features of previous games or the current menus meaning you couldn't dump your whole inventory in storage with a single button and had to transfer each item manually.
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>>733710301
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>>733710564
i have seen this exact combo from like a couple different anons at this point. get some new material
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does this shithole support AV1 yet?
I'd make some schizo ninja webms but I cba to fuck around the awful filesize limit
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>>733710301
Reminder to PRACTICE YOUR BEYOND INFINITY TIMING
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>60 MB update
Where are the patch notes?
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>>733710749
https://teamninja-studio.com/nioh3/us/update/
good morning sir
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>>733710301
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>>733710510
I was at 65%
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>>733710823
>didn't ki pulse after night rain and continue attacking
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>>733710719
used it so much in Nioh 2 i'm kinda bored with it now, still not bored of 2kat though
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Go check the NPC summon they put for the first Yamagata fight. Actually kinda kino.
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>>733710518
why this is being mentioned let me ask
where the fuck even is the storage box?
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>>733710784
>still not even trying to improve the performance of the game
it's over, innit?
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>>733710301
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>>733711008
Hey at least they nerfed a ton of shit though
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>>733710360
I'm a little salty because Gozuki and Onryoki were the only two sources I had at the moment
like it was basically negligible with only those anyway but whatever, onryoki talisman fucking sucked with 0 tracking so it's whatever.
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>>733710998
You have to enter your equipment menu at a shrine or select items at the start menu to switch between the storehouse and your inventory
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>>733711113
I saw it anon
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>todo fixed
good thing I already finished the game, wew
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>>733711030
wasn't my cleanest fight, but it got the job done, also that hold square ability where you run and flail widly, i always forget it's a thing, don't really use it at all
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>Farming boss for Evil-crusher SS text in 2
>It ain't fucking dropping
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
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>>733711198
No you didn't
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ninja 2katters ww@?
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>>733711248
One thing that's cool to me watching this webm is how different this style of 2kat looks to the way I play, whereas in 2, pretty much everyone who used 2kat had to play exactly the same since 2kat was so limited. Say what you want about anything else regarding improvements or downgrades in 3, but 2kat got one hell of a facelift.
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>>733711373
2kat's just fun to use in general now because of the changes to combo structure. Out of every weapon it benefited the most from it in my opinion.
Winter Wind -> Double Flux -> Frost Moon is also pretty fun.
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>>733711284
oh n-ACK
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>>733710301
Any switchglaive combat clips?
Every time I try to incorporate some stance switching mid combo I start regretting not just going full heavi or full light stance.
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>>733711397
WOOOOOOOOWWWWWW, Nothing I could do!
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Is there a lot of input lag on PC compared to Nioh 2 or does my PC just suck? Trying the demo out and i kinda feel like moving underwater while Nioh 2 feels like the control is wired directly into my brain
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Here's your Hiddy cameo
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>>733711982
>hide canonically uses tonfa

interesting decision
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Yesterday I had 4.000 hp and after the patch I have 2.500 hp
They fucking nerfed Todo clan what the frick!!!
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>>733711646
I think the whole point of the switch attacks is getting another vector to build versatility/wildfire stacks, which combine into a big damage buff
If you have neither of those the attacks themselves aren't very good and you're losing out on the extra ki you'd get from fluxing more often
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>>733712053
get fucked, todofag. now you actually have to play the game lmaoooooo
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>>733711982
tonfa best weapon
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So what clan do we use now that todo got nerfed
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>>733712053
Yesterday I had 4.3k Health and now I have.... 4.3k Health, Oh nevermind. I'm not a Todo faggot.
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>>733712053
time to get good loser
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>>733711982
>Hiddy cameo
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>>733712231
>william gets a bossfight in 2 and is shown to be on par with Hide
>hide is used as a npc summon to help unfilter shitters in 3

Hidebros...
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>>733712231
>he does tokichiro's summoning gesture from the final DLC in 2
KINO
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Mumyo barbarian snu-snu desu
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>>733712231
DLC mumyo summon possible? r-right anons?
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>>733711008
I'm pretty sure most issues with performance aren't related to the game itself but some retarded dependency, this is the only logical explanation why people with similar PCs either run the game fine or it run like shit.
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>Todo still broken as fuck
What a nothingburger
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>>733712126
idk i never used Todo cause i'm not a streamer, game reviewer or faggot
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>Increased the effects of the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor."
huh? even more?
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>>733712602
No?
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>>733712602
>Fixed an issue causing the Todo Crest Protection "Life Bonus (Stamina)" to be applied to stats other than Stamina.
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>>733712561
from my testing and using a mod to mess with the LODs, panning the area in bakumatsu for example continously just fucks the cpu hard until I nerfed the draw distance of larger objects in the game to half of the game's default
this made my 5800x usage go while panning from 100% to 70-80% and the traversal usage drop is similar
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>>733712637
Wait, just below this is
>Decreased the increase to damage dealt by melee damage with the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor."
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>>733712637
The damage received I guess, because there is also
>Decreased the increase to damage dealt by melee damage with the Shinsengumi Crest Protection "A Warrior's Honor."
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how the fuck do you even see the Shinsengumi values in-game?
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>>733712638
>>733712656
It's still broken retards. You lost 1k hp at worst. What does that hp loss matter when you're still over 4k hp?
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>whine about performance
>never posts specs
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>>733712685
>until I nerfed the draw distance of larger objects in the game to half
Are you using a separate tool or ini tweak for this because I didn't see a draw distance setting?

"Red attacks" are a welfare mechanic and exist just to give you free damage
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>>733712819
Seems they also changed the scaling according to clan rank, so people who are high stamina anyway mau not see much difference, while those without too much stamina may see more difference. Just speculating, didn't have time yet to open N3 and check.
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>>733712869
check lyall's nioh3fix
it's in the .ini file tho the recent build he released made the draw distance change work weird, it barely does anything now so I compiled the older commit myself
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Man I'm getting burnt out in the last area. Same enemies, pretty lack luster quests. I think I'll just rush to the main objective after mibu temple boss
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the good
>transmog for any armor on either style
>claimed to have fixed the item consumption prevention bug
>bunch of progression fixes

the bad
>todo "fixed"
>mid attack damage reduction nerfed
>nothing mentioned about sword of meditation or tornado edge even thought they are "balancing" things
>no performance fixes
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>>733712965
they also didn't bother with the deflection expert bug and i'm not even sure if they're aware of it
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>>733712965
how the fuck is todo fix bad? how many of you fucking cunts used this shit? they should have nerfed it more.
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>>733712126
imagawa - close range bow damage up
mohri - bow damage up
it's bow-ing time
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>>733713032
they fear the power of 2kat and cestus users if they remove their chains
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Are there any cool/good skills for the tonfa? I feel like Im just chaining normals, while on katana i have genuinely useful skills
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>>733712861
My GPU handles the game fine. But I imagine my CPU must be getting fucking annihilated by this game DESPITE it being above Steam recommended specs. Just fought Shinsaku in NG+ and I actually struggled because the game shat out stutters every time the camera turned to the crucible thing in the boss room or whenever his spirit appeared
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>>733713045
todo had the most glory by a huge margine

its widely known that its actually good, and it seems like most people would rather use it than not. regardless of if you think its good, having the option is better than not
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>>733712965
>>todo "fixed"
What a whiny little bitch. Time to git gud, you shitter.
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honestly the todo HP before feels like how the game should be by default, getting killed in just two hits is lame
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>>733712861
I can't hold a steady 120 with 9800x3d and a 5080 but atleast there's a mod to get rid of the slowdown if your fps is variable but the cpu rape is insane in this game
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>>733712965
Todo is still retarded and shouldn't do what it does. Why would you allow one stat to provide the best increase to health, the best increase to equipload AND the best increase to damage if you just remodel?
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>>733713109
Uesegi (plus toughness and healing on enemy killed) is the first and only clan I been part of.
is having more toughness not good? I think it is. at my current clan ranking I am getting plus 19 toughness.
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>>733713134
bro the game is already easy, whats wrong with a little tension
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>>733713115
back to souls with you retard

todo was one of the few things letting people actually play the game. punishing people who build defensively just pushes them to instant kill onmyo one shot kill builds that are EVEN MORE cheese because instead of having more HP and just healing through attacks you spawn in and just instantly kill whatever you want

dumbfuck
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>>733713203
more tougness only good if it takes you to the next tier, otherwise it's pointless
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The parry-counter moves are such a fucking waste. Useful against like 3 opponents throughout the game and there's usually just the best one that makes the others take up a martial art slot.
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>>733713237
>todo was one of the few things letting people actually play the game.
do you write game reviews for an online publication by any chance? welcome to 4chan good friend! i will upvote your post!
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T-todosisters... we got cocky...
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>>733713278
Yeah, that's always kind of been a complaint of mine with the series. You get these cool parries and follow-ups with special animations but they only work on human enemies when for the most part you're fighting Yokai. For larger Yokai I understand, but no reason why some of the parries shouldn't also work on smaller Yokai.
At least in the Bakumatsu Era you fight a lot of humans.
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>>733713363
I already beat the game, I'm chillin
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>>733713293
>you used todo? you di'n beat da game!
>you used onmyo?
>you used ninja style?
>you used sloth?
>you used confusion?
>you used arts gauge?
>you used 1kat?
>you used axe?
>you used tonfa?
>you used claws or cestus?
>you used steel and carnage talismans?
>you di'n beat da game!!
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>>733713203
>>733713109
glory doesn't matter
when these people grow a brain they'll leave their clan and branch out to collect the other protection bonuses, there's literally 0 reason to stay tied down in one clan
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>>733713425
this early on people arent branching out, it is literally the ONLY time when glory matters because after the first few weeks people will have gotten the permanent bonus and changed over
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>>733711972
It's bad optimization, you can make it feel as responsive as Nioh 2 with enough tweaking if you have decent specs
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>>733713278
>>733713392
I go out of my way to never equip these in all 3 games/
living my best life with severing spin in all three stances
I only take them if they have the +1 attack, there are better things to spend my points on.
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>>733713237
>todo was one of the few things letting people actually play the game
holy shit what a self report
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Just checked, lvl 217 with 70 stamina, went from 7034 to 4852 health (Deputy Leader of Todo)
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>>733713419
I mean... Todo was literally bugged and working incorrectly. That's completely different from an intentional game mechanic.
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>>733713473
you don't even need to grind it all at once
glory will probably scale up amounts later and if it doesn't you don't even lose out anything switching off on that gamble
you literally only need the second rank to keep it permanent
I got 6 ranks into Toyotomi by end of NG and said "fuck this" and started grinding up others.
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>>733713508
>severing spin in all three stances
vro? your morning moon?
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>7034 health
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>>733713692
Yep, that's how it was kek. With lvl 250 and some more life substats it could even go a bit up I'm sure.
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how can you tell at which rank you get the permanent bonus for it?
i haven't been able to find any place where they list the different clan rankings..
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wait why am I suddenly able to mix and match samurai and ninja parts
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>>733713857
update removed the style restriction since it was a popular request/mod
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>>733710564
I hope there are ways to make that first move disgustingly broken because that's the true way for a Samurai to kill.
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>>733713881
>can wear okita's PJs on my ninja
hell yeah
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>>733713857
>Made it possible to set equipment from different Styles in Equipment Appearance.
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>>733713815
At lv160 when not abusing a broken clan bonus your health is supposed to look like this btw
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>>733713658
for what? So I can whip out the cancel attack that's the same as ki pulse follow up?
there's so many attack up effects and as far as I can tell they don't stack, my morning moon will get overwritten the second I fart and cough in my enemy's direction. I found myself simply never using this shit while severing spin has universal appeal as a capper on arts combos in all stances
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>>733713974
>>733713881
I see, I didn't even know there's an update. I thought it was an unlockable cause I just arrived at the last area.
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>>733711982
This is Hide during the Shadow chapter of Nioh 2. So he was helping newbies back then.
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>>733713816
you literally only need the second rank, read the help menus
it's just that obviously you would want the effect to be stronger than that.

also FYI from what I've seen if you switch clans it doesn't automatically switch in your new protection bonus you have to manually change it in BLESSINGS menu
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What's the tl:dr of the patch? Besides the sam/nin glamour change, that's awesome
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>508 damage without shinsengumi
>554 damage with warrior's honor B-
Meh
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>>733714098
10% is on par with a 7p grace bonus (that isnt inari)

that's pretty good desu
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>MC's name is TOKUFUCKINGGAWA
>lol go pick a clan to represent
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>>733714012
Itwon't get overwritten, the game keeps track of all buffs and counts the strongest one. But morning moon lasts like 10 seconds so it won't work for long
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>if you didn't abuse bugs to +15 all your weapons and armor the game is now unplayable
t-thanks
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>>733714095
the health bug for todo got fixes and the shitters are crying en masse
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>get to Path of the Shogun
>exploration bonus +10 luck
>get it after doing only like 5 bases/crucibles
oh okay it's nice you don't have to do too much
>get to Heian period
>it's the same bonus, that same bonus is for the ENTIRE NG+
damn they don't wanna give us any actual incentive to redo anything, huh? not like +10 Luck per era would've broken the game economy. What are they afraid of? us getting 3 divine drops instead of 2?
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>>733711982
where is that?
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>>733710301
Playing Nioh 2.
What are some weapon skills that can proc something like Poison with one use?
Like Wild Lions for Tonfa or Crimson Flurry for Kusarigama
Bonus points: unlocked early instead of farmed scroll nonsense or Veteran skills
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZLmU0Sc_Hs
I love the kusarigama bros
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>>733714098
>>733714140
so 10% dmg buff overall, or 20% (or whatever it is) from Kakizaki against winded enemies, hmm, not sure which i prefer tbqh, might go back to Kaki
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>>733713942
>TN actually listening to requests
Time to go request the cleavage underwear from RotR
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>>733714242
if you did one before but not all is it still fucked? i did one to test it but i didnt have enough money to do all my gear, i hope its not still retarded if i have at least one +15 item
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>>733714095
todo and shinsengumi clans nerfed so now you can't play with one hand and one eye on other monitor on 4chan, I guess
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>>733714242
exploit early and exploit often
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>>733712053
I guess that's something they really needed Todo
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>>733714174
yeah anything with uptime that pitiful is practically worthless to me it's the main reason why I fucking abhor Wo Long
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>>733714363
>against winded enemies

never gonna proc in any situation that matters.
any boss that you can break the stamina for you are already slamming and regular enemies die in one grapple as is
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>>733713392
I think human enemies and bosses need to be changed. I don't think they are threatening or fun enough to loop these strong counters. Maybe they should cost spirit force and grant you a buff so you don't cheese them with it while still retaining their powerful effects
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>>733714385
the moment you picked up a +15 item the game lowered costs for soul matching permanently, and increased your bare-handed attack massively
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>>733714384
Is all of that vanilla?
If so I'm surprised the backside isn't a square and there are actually hips present. But that's why it doesn't say vanilla to me.
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>>733714492
nice

ez game, love to see it. sorry 4 u tho
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>>733710301
When do the shrine maiden set starts dropping?
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>>733714538
2nd area. It's not sexy or skimpy so it's SHIT
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>>733714739
it's never been skimpy, anon
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i might try li clan, i just wasnt interested in the crimson general set because it has zero damage bonuses

you cant get a +1 to the clan bonus with yasakani, can you?
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>>733714515
no, it's modded. you can tell because of how amateurish the model looks
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Luv Mid stance. Not swappin' off. Don't care for high stance. Don't care for low stance. Simple as.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwWvPjErPPE
>is the most kino soundtrack in your path that isn't from 1 or 2
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>>733714764
the clan bonus IS the damage bonus
A toughness and A agility at the same time is comfy as fuck though
and no obviously yasakani doesn't affect that, so you're stuck with the Odachi bonus and your second bonus at 6 items max
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>>733714324
Escape from Hikoto Slope, the second level of the game before you enter the open field. He was added because a ton of people were getting filtered by Masakage
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>>733714925
i wouldnt mind an odachi bonus since its so weak, but i am not grinding out grace bonus sets of weapons and accessories.

how high does the damage bonus go? its 10% with 5 pieces at rank 1, what does it end at? if its large enough i'll grab it
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>>733714384
is that the fucking flying ferret animation?
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>>733715048
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the 2 piece life bonus on graces is now the most valuable one
nu meta is 2p of like 9 graces and some cheeky kintaro / WotE / brave demon hunter combo
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>>733714441
Watanabe has a buff against attacking enemies.
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>>733711982
bro
if these knuckle draggers cant even pass such a simple boss they should uninstall on the spot
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>>733715048
seems to go up to %20 (4% each) which is pretty good IMO
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>>733715291
that's not bad, but its competing with 3p demon hunter/2p warrior of the east for 25% minimum martial arts damage

damn, i was hoping it at least went up to like 30 or maybe 40%
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>shrine maiden gear finally released from ninja
it was dumb from the start
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And last one
As fun as the pinwheel shuriken is, mid-air catches take like 20 years to throw back out compared to grounded catches

But it's fun.
So I'll NEVER learn my lesson
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>>733715872
i really do wish it was more powerful, feels like the fire shuriken do more damage outright

maybe if instead of catching it and throwing it back it out ricocheted or something? with multi hits?
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>>733715496
>>733715872
what do you use? I have a similar 19 second clip but I'm having a hell of a time getting it under 4MB even at 480p
I don't do this very often.
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Crimson General is comfy as fuck to use. I'll take ki damage bonuses over normal damage any time because i get to spend more time with enemies.
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>>733715974
It just needs a flat out damage boost. The commitment is too high compared to what it does.
Or even better yet, give it a huge amount of ki damage to make it different from the rest of the shurikens.
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The glory buffs are kinda nice. Was getting 60 glory per revenant and now getting 160. Just killed the bloodedge demon and only got 360 glory though.
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>>733715361
just looking at some items I have isn't that more like 18%? how are you getting 25 minimum? Is it from the total set level buffing it?
I guess that's better but you gotta realize the crimson bonus doesn't care what level your items are
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>>733710784
>Patch fixed Infernal Calamity
It's now just as good as Thunder Calamity. Maybe even better.
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>>733711982
>he does the "dont worry, I got this" emote
The dev must be having fun when they added this.
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>>733716123
set level average buffing it yeah, at 160 its like 9% for wote and 15% for demon hunter

>crimson demon doesnt care about level of your items
and this is good, but its like an early game bonus more than anything. i guess it would've been busted if they late it scale to 40% without requiring something else.

here's to hoping it gets some kind of ethereal rarity set bonus buff or something
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>>733716198
this vindicates that one anon in another thread who said this was hiddy's canonical appearance
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Come on you retard game, give me that 170 weapon drop ffs.
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>>733716246
I've read that it seems to scale with your character level but I'm not sure if it's true.
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>>733716241
I mean that is his look as default and on boxart.
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>>733715974
>>733716065
the catch timing is ridiculous
they really need to let you buffer it and not let you throw another one until you miss the combo window. as it stands half the time you just waste a charge trying to catch it.

realistically as far as tools go you just get the most bang for your buck out of Shuriken, Fire Shuriken, and Shrapnel bomb. Pinwheel has its niche at least, but I can't figure out what the fuck Kunai is supposed to be even good for. Whatever it has over Shuriken seems so marginal it's better to just have shuriken.
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>>733716285
Got 2 headpieces so far, but if it's THAT rare then I might just give up, all that time wasted will get immediately outscaled by dlc caps rising anyway.
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>>733715998
The usual; https://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter
>>733715974
Numerically speaking, at 99 skill at least, it hits harder out of any physical throwable tools if 1 or more of the hits touch the back even on single tosses. Falls completely short when compared to the 2 of the calamities though. And obviously 3 catches or using it in the middle of a combo is a bit hard to do due to the variable nature of what angle the thing decides to go and if there is a wall over there.

But it's fun so...
Though honestly I think if it was to get any buff, it should do more damage per time's it's caught and tossed. That seems like it'd be fun
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>>733716241
The anons in the other thread were debating whether hiddy's default appearance was recognizable rather than official though.
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Whew lost 12% -%DT and 2k life from the patch. on tonfa Felt like was already using all my affixes defensively and now I don't know what the answer is for NG++. I am fine right now for current content but I am under no illusions this setup won't be paper come new content.
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>>733710301
Who the hell do I have to kill to have mountain breaker chanced to LB+Y? Tonfas only have one LB+Y technique and its shit
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>>733716246
A lot of the decisions in this game just reminds me of Nioh 1 and chasing 170's is one of them. Was it 170? I just remember that it was the result of a bug that they fixed but then allowed in another way
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>>733716482
Most weapons have that issue, it's very clearly on purpose.
They even restricted skills to one stance that were available to multiple in the previous game, absolutely baffling.
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>>733716426
What level are you, out of curiousity?
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>>733716428
>Though honestly I think if it was to get any buff, it should do more damage per time's it's caught and tossed. That seems like it'd be fun

it would be fun, but removing the clunk would be preferable to just making it way more worth it to stand way the fuck far away and making guaranteed sure you could catch it if it like, doubled the damage both times you caught it so it was doing 4x on the 3rd throw or something

for me personally, making it more usable, even for lower damage, would make it more fun, because i agree that it is cool. its very naruto
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>>733716567
219, I'm pretty sure I had those 170 headpieces at least a few lvls before
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>>733716460
not really
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>>733716634
Mhh, raising your level might increase the chance for 170s drops then, if it's true. I've seen a few people say they started to get more high level loot after they maxxed their level even in lower areas.
But I haven't seen a real proof of it.
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>PC anons are getting their first taste of team ninja patches
They are going to rebalance and rework a lot of things, mostly for the better.
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Is there like a list of ranks? What rank can I join a new clan while keeping my previous clan bonuses?
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>>733716634
no idea what triggers it, i've been hunting full 170 since last week and only missing chest and ranged wep now. once you get the first 170 drop in any given slot they seem to drop pretty consistently, but getting that first drop can take ages and there doesn't seem to be any way to force it other than grinding your ass off
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>>733716638
I mean, yes really. Unless we're talking about different anons I guess.

>>733684059
>Would the average player even recognize the default hide appearance?
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>item drop rate at 59%
>shingen still doesn't drop the smithing text for his sword
what the fuck WHYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>733716748
>>733716808
Interesting. I'm not sure if I'll have the patience to go all the way to 250. Even if I just settle for 160s there's also the issue of accessory drops being absolutely abysmal.
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>>733716830
we're definitely talking about different anons lol
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>>733716808
Any specific locations they need to be? I'm doing grind spots on final crucible and until now I didn't realize there is 170's, been level 250 for a bit now.
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>>733716785
literally just the second rank but obviously you are going to want to improve the bonus
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>>733716479
That's fair
Mid-air tosses being made a bi quicker would be more enjoyable for me as well
Since they really are kinda slow right now
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Has anyone done a comprehensive tier list of yokai cores yet?
Hino-Enma is probably going to be at the top, but what about the rest?
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>beat Yoshitsune's ass so hard out of sheer fear of having to deal with that gigantic faggot Kagetoki again
what a gay ass mission
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>>733710719
>does one fist of reckoning and outdamages you without having to be autistic.
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>>733716995
>literally just the second rank
what does this mean?
the second upgrade you get? or the second best?
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>>733716896
Fair. Those two were noticeable to me because they started to throw insults
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>>733717249
tier s - scampus, lil niggas consistently track the enemy and gives you luck for better chance of getting greens
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>>733717509
Second upgrade you get, but the bonus improves as you rank up so you may want to rank up further before switching.
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>>733717605
It's hilarious they basically gave you a reusable scampuss summoning bell when that thing was consistently the most broken thing in 2.
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Wow does Nioh 2 feel like shit to play after coming straight from 3. I just platinumed 3 and thought I wanted to do another rerun of 2. There are so many things I miss, such as no auto loot.
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>>733717714
do they give you spirit gauge? that was the main reason they were busted in 2 is because they let you spam gozuki completely freely for like 90 seconds or whatever straight
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>>733717487
>Kagetoki again
he is just properly playing the ninja style gameplay unlike EVERY OTHER ninja npc
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>>733717860
Nah, they don't. They were busted because they dealt continuous ki damage and harassed enemy non stop, anima was just a bonus.
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>>733717791
autoloot should've been the default from 1 to be honest. No idea why they thought people would sit around looking at the loot for minutes waiting to see if they wanted to grab each piece rather than just grabbing it and looking later.
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>>733717876
damn now I feel kinda bad for playing ninja mode, the yokais probably look at me like I eat dicks for breakfast
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>>733717509
you just need the bare minimum of glory to get to the second rank, deputy leader
the shit only exists so people don't just parade through the menu and unlock all the bonuses at once
which doesn't make much sense because isn't there like an 8 hour timegate on transferring again? Maybe they were considering dropping that at one point who knows
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>>733717791
Play wo long, it has autoloot too.
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>>733716918
i prefer this place in Scion of the Gods crucible. i did passageway shrine in final crucible for a bit, but felt the ilvl drops there were lower on average.

i farm Scion of the Gods 90% of the time, then throw in some bloodedge demon or enhanced crucible or expedition when i want to change it up.
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>Played normal fighter Spear/Axe in 1
>Mage Staff/Glaive in 2
I guess I'll play Ninja in 3. Kusarigama + 2Kat?
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I see the troon mods have been released already. Great.
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>Go from 6k to 4k after patch
>Didnt even notice because I still have -80% damage while attacking and lifesteal through amrita
Its fucking nothing
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>>733718170
What?
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>>733718120
The nude mod makers should add a jumpscare at a random point and have an NPC just blurt out:
>Why are you running around such a dangerous place in the nude?
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>>733718178
>after patch
>>Didnt even notice because I still have -80% damage while attacking
Didn't they nerf that too?
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>>733718120
the canon appearance for the shogun who loved molesting young boys
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>>733718120
Are 170 crucibles not dropping as those later two wouldn't have an oppurtunity to that.
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Why are there so many equipment skills with the (Critical) bonus? Only challenge runners will ever actually want to play with low health in Nioh, there really does not need to be 'guard ki consumption -6.7% (critical)' or similar
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>>733718214
Oh shit looks like they did. Lost 10%
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>>733717989
dont worry, at the end of his quest, he has lost all honor from yoritomo who then exiles him and is eventually killed
ofc not before yoritomo takes back his summon box who then passes it down to raikou and some how manages to pass through the tokugawas to (you)
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>>733718120
you gooners really play like this?
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>>733718214
Samurai axe players could pretty easily hit 95% (where I've been told there is a cap but I haven't checked myself). Honestly samurai in general is the sole reason for the nerf because of just how -%dt scales better the higher you go for it. They are basically the entire reason behind the nerfs.
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>>733718315
yeah it's pretty great
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>>733718269
its basically filler
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>>733718269
the same reason Unscathed bonuses are so common too
or 0.5 poison resist garbage in most games
it's all bad shit there to waste your time and piss you off
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>>733717908
And you could summon 3 at the same time for what, 20 to 30 seconds? They were hilariously fun.
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>>733718269
last stand talismans put you at critical and are pretty powerful

its probably not actually a viable way to play (yet) (maybe), but i forget if it still effects living weapon. i would be ok with seeing a nerf to "while attacking" DR if we saw a bump to critical defense
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I started playing Nioh 3 a few days ago. I was hoping samurai armour would look a bit cooler. Are there nicer sets further into the game?
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>>733718626
yeah, and you can unlock transmog and use gear from either style in it
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>>733718626
>Are there nicer sets further into the game?
not really
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does preservation talisman ever get better than 20 seconds or can I continue to keep Magic as my dump stat?
I've been keeping it low because I don't really feel like I need the last two onmyo slots, having a third quickslot wheel is contra-QoL in my opinion
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>>733718759
there is a passive skill that makes onmyo last longer, i havent bothered to check by how much though since its so cheap
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>>733718626
what the fuck are you even LOOKING for?
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>transmog youngblood armor
let me guess, you need more?
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What kind of skills should i be looking for on Samurai armor? I don't really know what pieces to keep
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>>733718690
It's incredible how much more effort was put into RotR's fashion gear. TN have managed to go backwards.
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>>733718626
I absolutely adored this set + hat aesthetically, looks really cool with 1kat.
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>>733718903
if you have to ask this the answer is just equip the biggest number
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>>733718873
I worry about our newbies, it's like using their eyeballs is considered "illegal" if they can't figure out what gear to use.
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>>733719090
including myself, holy shit I need sleep
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I'm out of KHANTENT
it's so fucking over bros, guess I'll fuck around in multiplayer
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>>733718626
For me its tiger of kai chest with Okita's Hakama's
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>See the ninja default outfit
>Oh, sweet, they're actually making female specific clothing look good, I can't wait to see what's new.
>everything is a recolor from 2
>Most of the good outfits from 2 aren't even in the game
>Samurai side is abysmally shit
>The few new outfits have massive issues like the pants on Himiko's bakumatsu outfit looking 20 sizes too big if you wear them with anything but the full outfit

What a let down. No wonder everyone's naked.
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based janny
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Todo members did not beat the game
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>>733711982
>i used tonfa in nioh 2
>hide canonically uses tonfa
KINO
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>>733716065
Maybe they could give it knock back that's stronger the closer the enemy is to you when you throw it. I'd also be happy if they made the catch and return automatic as long as you're not in the middle of an attack or currently being hit. As it is now, my main use case for the weapon, having two or more enemies lined up, has been completely overshadowed by Thundering Calamity.
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>>733719710
>if they made the catch and return automatic
woah there
The entire reason I even use it is because that's fun to do.
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>>733718945
i bet Sony somehow has the rights to that shit so TN can't recycle it into Nioh
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>>733718120
what skill are you using to blast them like that?
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>>733719985
hellshock for the jailer onis, hellfire or whatever the fuck it's called for the grudge spirits
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Bros, any suggestions for inventory management?
Right now I do this:
>eternal rest all cores aside from the yellow highest leveled two for every yokai
>dismantle all gear with hammer icon
>soul extract all gear with +level
>donate to the clan what it requests
I still have a shitton of stuff though, do i sell for gold or for amrita?
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does some kind of divine droprate + effect exist somewhere?
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bros I've played all niohs for hundreds of hours and I still never Flux II, I just Flux I how do I train the muscle memory
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>>733720428
write on your screen in sharpy right in the middle "start fluxing"
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>>733720428
You're probably doing it too fast, at least that was my problem.
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>>733720428
I kinda get how you feel
I used to consistently flux 2 all the time in Nioh 2
I almost never use it here, hell I'm barely using frostmoon and flux 1 to its fullest
when things are going good my art is pretty much always full and I'm more focused on dialing in my combo I just never even think about my ki or fluxing
I spend most of my time just dumping the ki bar out and recovering with guardian skill it just feels so free
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Is the performance good yet I want to run the game in my 2017 cpu
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>>733720184
That's basically what I've been doing. I'm selling the rest because I'll need a metric fuckton of gold for +levels.
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Someone double check this for me because this doesn't feel right but I'm at shinsengumi warrior's honor B+ and by the numbers I'm looking it its roughly a 9-10% melee damage boost and a 35-40% increased back damage taken. I never tested the numbers before the nerf since I was still levelling the clan rank but it felt much more impactful than this I think.
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>>733715872
I used the Pinwheel the entire game because I like it that much. It's the only thing in my arsenal I never changed.
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>>733720539
>"jumping was a good addition to the series"
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>>733711982
>>733712231
>>733716198
>doesn't let you import a Nioh 2 savefile so they look like your actual Hide
How disappointing
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>>733720659
>I'm selling the rest because I'll need a metric fuckton of gold for +levels.
Good point, I'll have to remember to reset prestige to max sell value beforehand
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does the sudama blessing thing even work?
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>>733720428
By forcing yourself to do it. After you force yourself for long enough, bam. Muscle memory.
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>>733721061
I honestly don't see much difference.
I bet it works on a principle like "you have 0,5% chace to drop this so now with your 30% sudama bonus you have 0,6% chance".
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>>733721061
Absolutely, you’ll flood your inventory with what you wanted passively. I got like 8 ninja magatamas and enough kuroki armor to get tiresome.
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>Decreased the effects of the Kato Crest Protection "Damage Taken (While Attacking)."
Decreased the effects of Damage Taken (While Attacking) for the Samurai Style Guardian Spirit Kongojishi.
Decreased the effects of Damage Taken (While Attacking) from Gozuki Soul Cores.
Decreased the effects of Damage Taken (While Attacking) from Sentry Soul Cores.
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>733721290
I'm pretty sure this is how it works.
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If yall niggas are stacking damage taken when atacking then it means there's something fundamentally wrong with enemy attack start up animation, hitboxes and incoming damage.
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>>733721292
Kintoki armor, rather.
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>>733711982
>>733712231
>hiddy is still alive
why wont he fucking help us
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>>733721407
No, it means that you can spend literally all your time attacking and combined with samurai’s martial arts you don’t actually need to play the game.
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>>733721407
niggas stacking "make the game fun" buffs and tn comes in with the fucking hammer and literally cuts EHP by like 80-95% because they fucking hate giving players more options than

>naked onmyo spam
>naked ninjutsu spam
>running the fuck past everything

shits so fucking boring when you die in 2 hits. makes deflecting so much arbitrarily worse
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so no cheese?
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>>733721531
Anon I only reached “dying in two hits” for a brief window in midgame before I bothered upgrading my gear and at the very end of NG+.
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>check the update
>went from 91% to 77% damage reduction when attacking
jesus christ they FUCKED me
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>>733721501
NIGGA NO ONE IS ACTUALLY PLAYING THE GAME

ALL THE NIGGAS ARE SPAMMING MAGIC AND KILLING NIGGAS IN ONE HIT YOU FUCKING RETARD

FUCK ALL THE WHINY FUCKING SOULS PLAYERS BITCHING ABOUT SHIT THAT DOESNT MATTER IN A SINGLE PLAYER OFFLINE RPG GAME

GOT BITCH ABOUT DIFFICULTY SLIDERS IN BETHESDA GAMES
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Probably a really bad comparison but I can't think of a different game to use but is the gameplay differences when switching between ninja form and samurai form in this game similar to Yasuke and Naoe in ass creed shadows? Like when it comes to how differently they play where one is more stealthy and the other is more in-your-face typing, or is it just different movesets with the combat itself still rather similar where they're more or less "equal" when brawling an enemy. Like are you encouraged to use samurai form when going toe-to-toe with a large oni while using ninja form to be more stealthy?
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Is this nigga unironic right now? I still can't tell if this is parody
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>>733720428
I feel flux 1 is just fine. I only ever use flux 2 when I'm at almost 0 ki and wanna make up some ki so I don't get guard broken if I miss a deflect in then ext couple of seconds.
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>>733721531
I remember stacking guard ki reduction when I had trouble with nioh 2. It felt more meaningful that ungabunga hyperarmor through everything.
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>>733721407
i kurama sword dance into severing spin and have 0 issues
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>>733721585
Well damn either I'm building super wrong or I really need to optimize my gear because this is what I had upon finishing NG+
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>>733721442
Busy breeding Mumyo for an eternity.
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>>733721641
Most people are actually playing the game. Most people weren’t stacking todo buffs and 95% reduction in attack damage rendering them functionally invulnerable.
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>>733721317
I went down to 56% from 60 something. Not too bad.
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>>733711982
Lmfao, chink is so mad
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>>733721853
i lost 14 fucking % man
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>>733721672
It's both different movesets but also different priorities
They're both going head to head with an oni. It's just Samurai does it from the front where as ninja is heavily rewarded for hitting an enemy in the ass.
Samurai has multiple stances and has an overall higher skill floor
Ninja has it's ninjutsu, better aerial combos, and more tools with which to actually get behind something when it's trying to murder you

Both of them can be stealthy and sneak.
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Were the star substats in previous games also limited to exotic gear? I don't remember, but I think you could get them on other gear as well. Here so far it seems greens are not g etting them at all period.
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>>733710301
nah, post ryona shots instead
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>Fixed an issue where dropping equipment that was enhanced through Soul Matching or Enhancing Soul Cores and then picking the equipment up again would cause the enhancement limit to be reset.
>no more cheap +15 items either
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>>733721941
I'm pretty sure the stats greens can get should be starred but just visually aren't right now
Greens can get green versions of all the special effects which usually are substantially better than both stars on regular equipment and what you can craft on.
Like "33 [element]" compared to the +6 you can craft at the smithy
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>>733721767
free dmg free hp
nerfd
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>>733721807
>todo glory clears next highest clan by nearly 100% more

yes they fucking are, you retarded nigger

pre nerf values had you at roughly 8k hp with some investment, and 91% DR gave you EHP of ~88k
post nerf values have me at 4k hp and 77% DR gives you ~17k EHP
>nerf player health by over 80%
this is fucking gay, and TN is retarded for doing it

no other game would cut your healthbar to below 1/5th its maximum and offer no real alternative for it
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>>733721585
>no cheese
>6707 health
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This spergout might be funnier than the first time Todo got nerfed
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>>733722137
todo was literally bugged
you were never meant to have that much hp ever you retard
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>>733722137
Todo is less than 20% of players even when only looking at the top10 so he's right
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>>733722137
I'm more disappointed in shinsengumi nerf than todo. It was clear todo was going to get nerfed to the ground (read: changed so it's still ok for high stamina but not just way op). Gumi got hit too hard for what has a built-in negative.
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>>733720598
>finished the game on an i7 8700
game works (tm) if the CPU has 6 cores and 12 threads
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>>733721924
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I only use fucking garbage so no nerf will be hitting me.
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>>733722265
yes, and what they "meant for players to have" is fucking horrid dogshit

i dont fucking care what they meant, the players liked it and used it because it made the game FUN

it was a completely optional clan that a lot of people happened to find made the game a lot more fun. this isnt some pvp shooter where its giving you a crazy advantage over someone else, its a fucking single player offline RPG game. not touching the clearly still broken fist onmyo and ninja builds is just the cherry on top, and its a way lamer playstyle to just instant kill everything vs actually engaging with the game and the enemies
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>>733722501
how about you git gud instead of using a crutch
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>>733710784
>all these nerfs
>nothing on performance
yep seems about right
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>"this games EASY"
>nerf Todo
WAHHHHHHHHHHH WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
lmao
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>>733722137
time to git gud
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What's the best weapon and skill for parrying? I notice a lot of weapons have a parry where you press forward and E, and some weapons you parry just by blocking at the right time?
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>onmyo oneshots untouched
>fuck your grug build though
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>>733721672
it's night and day
a lot of the principles are the same like ninja isn't about being sneaky and you can still do sneak attacks in Samurai. Mainly they have completely different gear pools and movesets and don't really share any weapons

Samurai gets the normal stance system with ki pulse, which has been buffed with new 0 ki stance switching attacks. It gets deflect justguards that refill your ki and proc buffs. It gets a meter that fills with attacking and blocking, when you activate it you can chain together as many strong attacks and martial arts skills as you want for 0 ki, an attack boost, and even super armor if you equip certain passives.
Ninja has faster movement, ki regen, and cheaper dodging and dashing. Instead of ki pulse it has a free 0 ki dodge that leaves an afterimage that breaks enemy tracking for a split second. Instead of stances it has ninjutsu skills you can equip, the skills refill as you attack. Instead of deflect it has timed dodge called evade with big invincibility window and refills ninjutsu. While Samurai gets the buff to attacks used with the art gauge Ninja gets a buff to all damage done on the back of the enemy
the arts gauge and ninjutsu gauges all fill in both modes

You can also make your ninja and samurai appearance completely different characters although you can't make them different sexes, it's like putting on a ninja disguise I guess.
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>todo niggers still littering the game with their graves like jeets
lol
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Despite Todofags making up 13% of the population, they cast 50% of all sloth talisman.
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>>733722705
axe - soul devourer
it restores your hp by 50% of the damage you deal which is pretty fucking insane, the thing restores like 2k hp each time i parry with it
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What's the highest rank for a clan? Samurai General?
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>get yokai boss to 10% Ki
>summon Scampuss friends
>they hold him down
>full charge Sword of Meditation
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>Fifteen thousand four hundred and seventy seven people
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>>733722713
You can flock to that and hold onto it for dear life until it gets nerfed too lmao
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>>733722798
elder at 60k
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>>733722397
>if the CPU has 6 cores and 12 threads
I have an i5 7400
I think I'll upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600, the rest of my pc is actually pretty decent
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>>733722823
wtf, does the can protection keep going up until then or is there a cut off point?
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you still can't transmog a ninja sword to be a samurai sword right?
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>>733722137
>gives you ~17k EHP
Enemies are balanced for you to have about 3k, deal with it
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>>733722979
supposedly the last upgrade for blessing effectiveness is at 30k (minister) so getting to 60k is a waste of time
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>>733716781
>first taste
For balance patches maybe, not so much for performance issues as Rise of the Ronin suffered heavily.
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>>733721672
More or less equal in terms of combat viability but incentivizes different things, there's a bit more differentiation initially but certain upgrades bridge the gap. Samurai has universal deflecting blocks and its moveset divided by stances giving you a lot more moves per weapon, it can ki pulse for better ki management, and the arts gauge is basically I'm gonna get a fat bonus on chaining my heavy-hitting weapon moves. As you'd expect most heavy armors with set bonuses are samurai.. Ninja on the other hand has universally better evasion, and is overall faster which helps in getting the additional damage from whacking someone in the back. A key note on armor sets is that ninjutsu has most of the set bonuses related to using onmyo magic offensively so blasting is a ninja thing. It also feature ninjutsu which are rechargable spells and tools. That said you fill up the arts gauge and the ninjutsu recharges by hitting things in either stance so you want to switch between the two as needed

A lot of people, myself included, will find that the combat just clicks a bit better with one style over the other and limit switching to specific scenarios. In my case as a mainly samurai player I switch to ninja for its guardian spirit skills, ninjutsu, certain human enemies, and having a living artifact moveset that doesn't suck. You don't need to master both to beat NG+ but its still good to know what each side has.
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>>733718189
Probably some gay anon or femanon complaining about nude mods.
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>0 gameplay improvements
>0 new content
>0 performance improvements
>NERFS NERFS NERFS NERFS (IN A SINGLE PLAYER GAME)
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>>733712925
So the 0.0.3 version is better for LOD?
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I played plenty of parry games but this is the first one where so many windows are inscrutable despite the move being slow and readable
Have i just become an unc or is the legacy stuff not meshing well with parrying everything
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>>733722697
It's always the faggots abusing the broken shit crying about the game being too easy.
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>>733722993
>ESL nigger cant understand how math works

this is why them changing it is shit, because all the fucking knuckledraggers who come from souls and dont even understand their OWN game start bitching about how "you didnt beat the game" and they fucking grind everything worthwhile to a pulp for all of like 16 people who dont even play the game
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>TN nerf obviously bugged or blatantly overpowered stuff
>exploit abusers start shitting and crying "IT'S A SINGLE PLAYER GAME!"
every time. if you need to cheat to win, you did NOT beat the game
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>>733723157
the parries in nioh are just fucking jank, not a you problem
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>>733723157
>>733723271
Actually, it's a both of (You) problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dX7CdMfP54U
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>>733723196
No dipshit (You) don't understand, the game is not balanced around stacked damage reduction while attacking, that is a welfare build for people too bad at the game to progress normally. It's there for game journalists. On a character with no bonus DR from sets, clans or affixes enemies at the start of NG+ will not oneshot you at 3K life
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>>733723187
I didn't even consider Todo.
I level all my stats evenly.
Game is too easy.
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>>733723421
>I level all my stats evenly.
I've seen a few people do this. Why?
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>>733723153
It's the version inbetween. 0.0.3 is just a hammer tier solution that changes multiple things under 1 value. I'm using this commit https://codeberg.org/Lyall/Nioh3Fix/commit/e1594c7245abec08778c9fc3ce10de1853aa6f3d which I compiled myself.
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>>733723383
>the game is not balanced around stacked damage reduction while attacking
but every single fucking boss in the game has infinite hyperarmor, super armor and ki regen and attacks nonstop? why the fuck am i not allowed to attack at all times when they can?
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>>733723157
Nioh 3 probably has half the window of your parry game of choice.
That shit was even more stringent in the alpha
Regardless, I've glued the deflection skill to myself and will never be removing it.
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>>733722501
I haven't even hit 3k life yet and never abused naked spam and still never got stonewalled the entire game
you're just a pussy afraid of fun, afraid of being suboptimal when the games true build autism paradigm hasn't even hit yet, afraid of getting good.
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>>733723495
first videogame?
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>>733723242
agreed. i hope they nerf the oneshot onmyo ninjutsu stuff I see in coop all the time
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>>733723457
Personally I don't give a shit about the numbers side of things.
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>>733723495
They aren't the boss for nothing
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>>733723457
scaling seems to be pretty dogshit so there's no real harm in doing things evenly
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>>733722806
I miss him spawning in places like that
why was yesterday's on the fucking tiny cliff next to the shrine with the painter ghost?
why is the one I fought today on another cliff just as small but boxed in with walls so the camera fucks around?
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>>733723674
You get great scaling until 10, then a bit less until 20 and then it drops hard.
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>>733723602
Same co-op is unplayable and not fun.
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HP? Damage taken while attacking?
Why would I let enemies hit me?
Break purple ki in ninja style and then cook them in samurai style.
The game is practically begging you to do this.
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>>733723602
Probably will with the next big patch, the JP side is talking about it too where even open expeditions runs the risk of somebody coming in and ruining the fun
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>>733723139
running around with naked chick that looks like female william is very strongly AGP coded there's simply no getting around this.
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>>733710301
Imagine if this thing was a shortstack with curvy hips
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>>733723808
>break ki
nice fucking joke
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I want my Sudama helmet cmon TN.
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>>733723832
>watch porn with women in it
>"you must want to be the woman in it. you're some kind of tranny"

i hate trannies too but wtf is the logic for this
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The only thing I'm sad about with the nerfs is I was working on a cool LA DR while attacking build and now the DR while attacking might as well not be there. Oh well
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>>733723808
>Why would I let enemies hit me?
Why wouldn't you if they hit you for 50 damage which you can totally ignore, smack them for 12k damage and regen 6k life back
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>>733723832
it's just every games with a character creator where AGP avatarfags thrive
worst part is they feel vindicated forcing everyone to watch their crap
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>>733723157
are you strictly talking about burst attacks and burst break counter? because in that case it's like nioh 2 where some of them are easier to counter with guardian skill before the attack starts. If you can't burst break with guardian skill yet keep playing the game.
or do you mean those garbage parry martial arts or deflect too?
IMO deflect is generous and extremely optional in this game, unlike most deflect slop where it's stringently expected and failure is punished.
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>>733723832
I play as a dude myself, but I'd at least like to see modders go for a more sexy redesign of the female chest wrap at least. That way I can at least see that reflected on female character benevolent graves if I decide to use them.
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Tell me about your builds lads. I want to take a break from righteous strategist samurai + exalted ninja living artifact build to test out some other stuff so I'm curios what weird shit people have been doing aside from the usual suspects. Like last I checked it takes ~23 stamina to go full red armor with Ii clan for A agility with heavy armor, although I'm not sure if there's anything that cool people have done with that
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>>733723457
you have to be absurdly high level to even pump something and the game's scale just isn't at that point yet until DLC endgames come out.
having baseline 30 between 20 and 40 for everything is simply too good considering there are stat minimums for different gears and shit.
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>>733723902
??? On Shinsengumi 5 NG+ I broke all of their ki multiple times.
>>733723947
That sounds like UngaBungaSlop. I'd rather break their ki and then water sword half their health in 5 seconds like God intended. Using health as an expendable resource is contrary to my roleplaying mindset.
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>boss has a 2 hit combo
>there's a 10% chance of a 3rd hit
cool
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>>733724031
samurai deflects
i'm actually stuck at this fight >>733723372
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>>733723939
How effective was it before? Was the uptime on it severely beating out the 50% decreased LA time in exchange for no gauge loss on getting hit skill?
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>>733721921
He's not wrong. Instead of actually improving the game they're just nerfing all the fun shit. Meanwhile, enemies like Kuntimatsu are still just as broken and cheat the game's rules.
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>>733724187
Nice feet
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I tried going back to samurai after ninja and it feels like moving through molasses. I think the number 1 reason people find ninja easier is because you don't really have to worry about ki management almost at all. It plays like a normal action game and removes the enforced trade off for every attack in ki.
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>>733724193
Wind magic + ki damage + yamabiko + damage to winded enemy + sam2kat + nin1kat + toonf.
It's just that simple.
>>733724341
Cunnymatsu is not hard, what are you struggling with?
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>>733724341
>enemies like Kuntimatsu are still just as broken and cheat the game's rules.
I just beat him on my first try in NG+ when it took me afew tries in NG.
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>>733724324
I found Kongo was so powerful that it was giving me significantly more time with LA swinging away then Murokumo. Now, I'm not so sure, will do some testing today
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>>733724320
deflecting is completely optional though
I love that video but the game isn't forcing you to do a perfect flex like that. I pretty much just deflect the moves I feel confident deflecting.
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>>733724273
>3rd hit is a grab that will tank whatever you were throwing at it
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>>733723457
I'm constantly switching weapons so I don't want my output to swing wildly as I play.
Also I expect from previous games experience there to be little to no point in build faggotry till at least dlc2, most likely dlc3, so might as well even them all out.
I considered making an exception for magic to unlock the slots, but eh I don't actually have that much shit I want to use.
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>>733724193
I'm barely putting any conscious thought into it
It's mostly even stat distribution
I didn't even level up guardian spirits or use reputation until what I think is the last area
I'm still chewing everything to pieces with a ninja for ki break->samurai cum meter for punishment set up+guardian skill
The game is way easier than 1/2 but part of that is they did not do all that much to modify the returning Yokai. Most of them simply cannot handle player movement speed and aggression at the level you can easily achieve here.

I am not sure how much more difficult it gets on NG+ but I'm kind of surprised I'm already apparently so close to the end. The Kyoto map that references Ryoma is the last one according to posts I've seen here.
Content wise it does feel sort of anemic compared to 1/2.
I don't understand why some Yokai haven't been used more.
I have seen maybe 1 or 2 tengu.
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>>733723602
People relying heavily on Omnyo is just a natural reaction to the shit boss design in Nioh 3.
>Everything has hyperarmor now
>Everything can kill you in two-three hits now (1 hit if a Bloodedge Demon grabs you in NG+. I wish I was making this up)
>No openings. Ever. We Elden Ring now. You really think the enemy should abide by the same rules the as you? Stop being greedy, son!
>Damage sponges everywhere!
>Non-reactable combo-starters and grabs that take off 3/4ths of your health bar
>Infinite poise
>AOEs and 360 slashes out the ass
Gee, it really is a wonder why everyone is so reliant on buffing their defense when attacking through enemy's attacks and/or Omnyo/Ninjutsu spam
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>>733724187
>still no Fuka uncensor mod
Both you and the modders deserve Nexus and whatever pay wall singularity hell that awaits you.
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>onyudo-bros... surely we will be included in the dlc... right? We are literally one of the most iconic characters like nue
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>>733724193
Tonfa demon dance and wild lion spam for human bosses. Ninja sword kick spam for yokai bosses.
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>>733724193
I'm also exalted but samurai is Goichimonshu because I swap to ninja a lot and I'm desperate for anything that impacts both styles
No grace either because I can't get the Benzaiten pieces I need

Accessory farming is a bitch.
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>>733724517
I should add this was with 75% DR on top of Amrita gauge charge and LA durability and time buffs. Build falls apart under that DR threshold which unfortunately isn't attainable post nerf while still maintaining the LA gauge/time/durability set bonuses
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>>733724810
You barely even see Fuka in this game unless you decide to transform into her, so it's obviously not a high priority for them.
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>>733724392
>I play as basic bitch 2ninjakat/ninja1kat
>Why is the game so easy as ninja?
It's because all of the actually interesting sets for Ninja (Kobo Daishi, Gallant Ninja, etc) are medium armor. And Medium Armor in Nioh 3 sucks massive chode. It offers neither the benefits of freely dodging about like with light armor, nor the sturdy defense you get wearing heavy armor. You just get this middling "worst of both worlds, benefits of neither" garbage while suffering from constantly being out of ki after doing a mere two-hit combo with a splitstaff.


Basically, if you're going Samurai and are not wearing Heavy Armor, you're doing it wrong. And if you're going Ninja and not wearing light armor, you are doing it wrong. There is absolutely zero reason for medium armor to exist in this game, much less the series.
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>>733724998
I still haven't tested if crit health works with LA
If it does then you can use last stand to force you there and a bunch of the very good crit affixes to keep you there.
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>>733725087
Burn in your golden hell
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Thankfully I didn't use Todo or anti-damage taken stacking, so I can confirm the game is easy even without it. Remove your crutches and learn to walk without them, Todofriends!
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I wonder how strong Hide is
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>>733710301
any mod to bring back fuku naked jap hips
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>>733724992
The fuck is Exalted Ninja? Don't think I've come across this armor set yet
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>>733710301
I dropped the demo cause I thought the mode switching was super lame and obviously tacked on because I guess they think every new Nioh game needs a new gimmick
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>>733724836
>THREE (3) different literal blobs made it
>licky licky monk didn't
After jailer demon spam this is my biggest issue with enemies in 3.
>>733724810
These pants aren't worth it without swordmaster's top from 2 anyway.
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>>733725446
character morphing
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>>733725112
I'm not sure of your point. Most people will end up using medium armor as ninja because the game chucks tons of it at you at certain areas. So unless you forge a properly leveled light set every once and awhile yourself, you are going to have a lot of instances where you go medium. And yet despite this, ninja is easy. Are you saying it would be even easier if we went light armor as ninja?
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>>733725378
It isn't really a gimmick, it's more of a class choice. You can play samurai, play ninja or play hybrid. it is your choice.
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>>733725516
Samurai is the actual easy mode of the game though. Not Ninja
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>>733725527
Oh, the female-exclusive outfit. Yeah, I always ignored that shit. Damn shame too, because the set bonuses seemed nice
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More people need to host NG+ Sinister End runs instead of just spamming queue in hopes of getting in just before Hiruko.
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>>733725516
I don't know, why would you do that when all the sets that boost ninjutsu are light?
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What 3 stats should I make my odachi scale with?
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>>733725498
If you could port the swordmaster's the top from 2 you could also port the pants and morph, the fact you only get versions of existing armors mean nobody figured out yet.
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>>733725835
your 3 stats that are the highest
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>>733725735
>Using ninjutsu as a ninja
You're missing the point. The point is tonfa spam.
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>>733723152
>nooo 95% DR while attacking is GOOD
>balance doesn't matter ever, if a single player game is broken JUST LET ME NOT PLAY IT
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>>733725595
getting stuck with low ki occasionally and needing to ki pulse all the time doesn't seem as easy as just ignoring stamina.
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>>733726016
>>nooo 95% DR while attacking is GOOD
yeah? it's one build
why doesn't ninja get nerfed, they have a move that lets them ignore 100% damage taken called the dodge button
that should get nerfed too for the sake of fairness it's even more overpowered
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>>733726023
You pretty quickly bottom out on stamina as ninja. Only talons and their pseudo ki pulse get infinite stamina.
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>>733726080
>one build
If your single player game gives you two starting weapons, the spear or the thermonuclear warhead, the game has failed to make an interesting or nuanced choice.
>why doesn't ninja get nerfed, they have dodge
Samurai has deflect. Deflect is as strong or stronger than dodge. Deflect and dodge are basically identical, but dodge is slightly safer if you fuck up the perfect timing.
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>>733726090
>You pretty quickly bottom out on stamina as ninja.
Ask me how I know you're lying. Well, because I played the whole game as ninja and never had that problem.
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>>733726186
deflecting is the hardest thing to do in the game
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I'm at the end of the 3rd region and the game feels... Surprisingly small?
The first Region was quite good, then the second just felt like a big copy-paste field with not many distinct landmarks. Then the third is just a long linear path with a big dungeon.

I assume there's only one more?
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>>733726229
no. the hardest is stopping yourself from trying to deflect everything like a retard.
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>DR builds where fights take 10 minutes BAD NERF NERF NERF
>80k dmg streamer meme builds where you one shot everything and ruin multiplayer are fine though :)
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>>733726280
there's 1 more big field then there's a final dungeon crucible
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>>733726229
It's dodging actually. Thanks to the insane amount of tracking these enemies possess on their attacks. It's time to put up or shut up. Everyone needs to post screencaps of their boss stats. Which bosses did you die to the most? All these liars saying it wasn't Kuntimatsu and Hiruko need to put their money where their mouth is.

Not going to bother posting because I will freely admit it. Hiruko and Kuntimatsu is where I died the most.
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>>733726229
What? Bullshit, it's a 10-13 frame window, and if you fuck it up you're blocking. Sure you'll take some chip if the attack has element and in NG+ it'll whack a hole in your ki, but fuck man.
>>733726205
Did you exclusively play a ninja that only attacked three or four times before retreating? You know you can just keep going, right? I eventually gravitated towards talons because they have the best combo time due to their pseudo ki pulse while also doing decent damage, and I can take bosses to true stagger state in one ki bar sometimes.
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>>733726309
>>DR builds where fights take 10 minutes
even with my 91% reduction build i was still shitting out enough damage to kill things in like a minute or 2
it's nerfed down to 77% now but i had already beaten the game with a 78% reduction build before optimising to that 91% one so basically nothing has changed for me really
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>>733726280
Be careful of the giant wall after that dungeon. it's pretty big.
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>>733726309
>fights take 10 minutes
You're immune to damage and the fights are taking 10 minutes? Did you forget that getting that much DR is trivial and can be done while you are also hitting for six digits?
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>>733726393
>10-13 frame window
that's fucking ridiculously small
you expect me to actually hit that in the chaos of a fight when the enemies are attacking 200 times a minute with screen wide aoe sweeping attacks
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>>733726393
>it's a 10-13 frame window
8-13
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Noticing a LOT more coop runs where the host gets instantly erased today... You guys didn't ALL use the 8k health bug... did you?
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>>733726280
It's not really a third region, it's a dungeon and the only way to return there is by using a scroll.
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>>733726393
>Did you exclusively play a ninja that only attacked three or four times before retreating?
No, I was constantly dodging around the enemies and attacking. Maybe Barrier talismans improving ki regen had something to do with me having no ki issues at all.
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>>733726468
Yes. Because I could do it, and I'm no master gamer XXX. I swapped to ninja with preference for things like Envy to be able to dodge in past her infinite fire fountains, but otherwise deflecting and getting huge punishes fucks up both human and yokai bosses.
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>>733726386
the boss that killed me most in the game was the fucking tutorial masakage (20 times)
the 2nd most thing that killed me was masakage again (on a horse this time) (14 times)
the 3rd most thing that killed me was final boss hiruko (12 times)

i died twice to kunimatsu
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>>733726458
>>733726419
I was being dramatic but regardless I fail to see how a 3 minute fight somehow warrants a nerf when any linear damage build doesn't even have to know what the bosses moveset is to walk in the room and nuke them in 4 seconds
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My first NG run, I was getting my ass torn open by Hiruko as a Ninja. Switched over to Samurai (style that I ignored the majority of the run) and was deflecting his attacks with ease. Could have easily beaten him if I had stuck it out with that style. But I was stubborn and wanted the win my Splitstaff Ninja medium armor build. People who are saying it's difficult to deflect in this have clearly never played Lies of P. You retards are delusional.
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>>733726474
Nope since I picked Date
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>>733726504
Well yeah, no shit my guy. If you had A agility on sam and had barrier up, you'd have trouble running out too.
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>>733726567
Until I see a screencap, you're lying

>>733726617
>Date
mein neger
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>>733726597
Because you can both have the instakill nightmare bullshit build AND the 95% resistance build at the same time while losing very little.
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i pirated it and haven't updated since launch, will i have beaten the game or not when i'm done based on any changes made?
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>>733726474
Uesugi Elder here.
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For the anon looking for the Yasha NG+ Crucible wraith: Tomoe Gozen master in Heian.
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>>733726474
I started using it after I beat the game to be the big helper in co-op, but previously I just used the ki damage and winded damage clan until I became elder.
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>lightning calamity
>fire element weapon move
>water element weapon move
>wind talisman
>literally any other move
>max level confusion
>tornado edge 3 times while ignoring basically all damage the boss does
>win
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>>733726756
just play and have fun and shut the fuck up
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>>733726718
You need to substantiate your claims because I have 150+ hours and have not found a way to maintain that much DR while also nuking things instantly like any dmg build can
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>>733726813
i'm almost done with NG just wondering if it's worth actually updating yet, i don't want to download it again if i don't have to
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>>733726468
>>733726606
>>733726471
deflect is easy... and mostly optional unless your some retard who spec'd C toughness
the timing being tight is fine the fact is most of the moves performed are very honest honest with their timing... unlike other deflectslop like where winds meet other shit with those gay delayed fromsoft downswing pauses
and really there's a skill that opens the window up for evade and deflect I don't know why you wouldn't have that shit on.
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>>733726698
>Until I see a screencap, you're lying
my numbers were slightly off but yes, the fucking masakages killed me basically more than anything else in the game
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>>733724836
Do people actually like this Mf? One bitchslap dealing 1.5k damage or instant breaking guard isn’t my idea of fun but you do you. If he gets in then they better add Namahage as well.
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>>733726912
The thing is, the increased window actually seems to work for Deflect. It doesn't do jack shit for evade because of how much tracking there is in this game. And like others have stated, if you miss the timing for deflect, you just end up blocking the attack. And at worst, take some elemental damage. If you miss the timing of an evade, you eat the entire fucking damage. I will never comprehend how this meme of
>Ninja is unga bunga mode
even got started
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>>733726960
lmao you died to Mezuki?
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>>733726995
it's just a weird omission. It's been a staple Yokai since the first game

Honestly it kinda pisses me off even since I know they're gonna repackage old Yokai as "new content" in the 2 DLCs
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>>733726995
He's a scary world monster which this game sort of needs. He's better than "BIG jailer"
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>>733727034
not my proudest moment, shit happens man
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>>733726912
>and really there's a skill that opens the window up for evade and deflect I don't know why you wouldn't have that shit on.
doesn't work for cestus and dual swords, so that's a pretty good reason
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Does the ninja dodge even have i-frames?
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>>733726960
This is clearly photoshopped. I can tell because I've seen a lot of photoshops in my day.

Just kidding. I'm curious to know which style you used to beat Kuntimatsu though. Samurai or Ninja?
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>>733726995
Getting clapped for 75% of your health is a good thing however. And fighting 2-3 of them in an enclosed room, like in previous Niohs, is something we're missing.
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>>733727051
Tengu would have been complete putrid dogshit in Nioh 2 if they ported them over 1:1 with no changes to it's moveset.
I don't care what old shit they bring back as long as it's moveset is updated
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>>733727114
It does. When it properly activates and the attack you're trying to evade doesn't magically lock onto you like a missile from an F22-A
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>>733727034
He I died to Mezuki and Gizuki once in all my playthroughs, sometimes you stop paying attention to groups deep in your combos and fuck up a switch counter. I think fucking up a guardian counter killed me more than anything else in my playthroughs.
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>>733726910
the update is mostly bugfixes and nerfs to todo clan and less damage while attacking
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>>733727141
i have literally never used ninja for a single boss fight "seriously" at best i use it for a calamity for confusion then swap back to samurai

i beat every boss on ng and ng+ with odachi, and after beating the game twice i swapped over to axe, so i expect the dlc to be even easier actually
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>>733727228
>nerfs to todo clan
bigfixes to todo clan*
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>>733727141
Why limit yourself to one style for a fight? Swapping is free and they both have great tools.
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any recommended coomer mods so far
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>>733727020
>It doesn't do jack shit for evade because of how much tracking there is in this game
do you even understand how Nioh works? That shit is by design. before Nioh 3 I literally just dash out of the way of everything because that's how you avoid things, by dashing and not dodging.
Evade is good, most bosses have fuck huge area attacks that farm free ninjutsu charges, the window is nice and meaty to dodge them as they come down. I finally have incentive to dodge instead of run away from attacks. The mileage varies depending on the boss, but yokai form Takeda Shingen for instance is extremely easy to just kite and spam projectiles.
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Are there any armor sets with basic stat requirement? Halfway into the Hien era on my level 1 run and have been using the frost armor set and ninja heir set the entire time because there is almost nothing else I can equip.
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>>733727293
>Why limit yourself to one style for a fight?
i hate how ninja plays, it does not mesh with my mentality
it's made of paper and i like trading hits
i only use ninja for confusion and nothing else
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>>733726995
They are missing so many Yokai and it doesn't make any fucking sense.
There's a fucking fart gas ocean in one map but there are no tesso.
When you see fart gas in Nioh you do not think of jailers and Gaki, you think of Tesso.
There is a map with a tengu as a major enemy but there are no Karasu Tengu in it.
I am on the last map right now.
I have seen 1 Waira and 2 Karasu Tengu.
I have not seen:
Namahage
Tesso
Mitsume Yazura
Rokurokubi
Onyudo
Kiryoki
Oboroguruma
Fox Spirit

I have seen a thousand dwellers, Gaki, jailers, Bakegani, and dogs
Where the fuck are all the God damn Yokai

How do you make an open world game and remove half the fucking generic roster
This is totally discounting missing boss Yokai
Where the fuck are all the God damn Yokai at
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>>733727114
I'm pretty sure only Evade, Mind's eye, and the similar tonfa skill have iframes
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>>733727254
>niNjA iS EaSy MoDE!
lol
lmao

>>733727319
>y-you're not supposed to evade, you just dash
>Have you tried doing a barrel roll instead of a tight turn away from the QAAM?
Never post in a Nioh thread ever again.
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>>733727254
>at best i use it for a calamity for confusion then swap back to samurai
damn why do all the "I beat the entire game Samurai" niggas always turn out to be frauds
I haven't used confusion a single time
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Anyone figured our what the deal is with the offering boxes at Six Jizo? I found that the tea guy in the eternal rift sells revenant skins for a weird amount, so I donated the same number at Six Jizo but it did nothing. Maybe you have to be wearing the revenant skin??
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>>733726995
Him, Tengu, Cyclop and Namahage are my favorite normal yokai enemies,
I'm also really happy Rokurokubi and Tesso didn't return, shame that Nuppeppo and Waira couldn't join them in the shadow realm.
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>>733727553
>I haven't used confusion a single time
some weapons have better elemental attacks than others
axe elemental attacks basically instantly apply status so just y+x in high and mid and you have confusion ready to go for an instant 40% damage boost which is pretty huge
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>>733727534
this isn't fromgarbage dodging isn't for using iframes in the enemy's face
yes you actually have to avoid the entire attack hitbox in Nioh games
but now they made a strong option that makes dodging good as long as you time it to trigger evade. that's what I was saying. Dodge is a positioning tool not iframe farming mechanic, in Samurai you do still have to move out of the way to avoid the intentionally designed tracking.
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>Can't even get Himiko's outfit as a gear set for the lady Tackechiyos
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>>733727718
you can get her bakumatsu outfit
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>>733727718
Some outfits are just missing as far as I can tell. There was that really cool second set Sohaya set with the bone gloves
I haven't found it yet
No scampus set either
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>>733727709
Hitboxes have nothing to do with tracking. If I see the move coming, and I time my evasion correctly, I should be able to evade it in theory. But most of the time I do not, because these bosses practically resort to hitscan with their attacks.

>>733727776
>bakumatsu outfit
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>>733727667
If I really wanted to do it I'd just spam shadow arts and then steamroll the enemy like a sissy
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why is tonfa so much better than every other ninja weapon?
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Does Epstein turn back into a good guy if you crush his amrita supply
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why is 1kat so much better than every other ninja weapon?
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>>733727843
you sound like the kind of faggot who got filtered by Hino-Enma spinning in your face in Nioh 1
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>>733728048
>stab epstein
>the red glow fades from his eyes
>oh wow i was a bit mean
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>>733728023
Human enemies just can't handle spinning shit. It's almost comical how you can grind a human bosses ki bar away just spamming demon dance and wild lion.
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>>733728065
because it starts with kickslash day 1 and most of the enemies and even bosses have zero answer to the cyclone combo

>>733728023
because the ki bullying is ridiculous and you can just demon dance spam everything until it dies.
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>>733723457
There are just enough levels to have 40 in everything (plus an extra five). 40 seems like a nice number for almost every stat when, when they hit their most severe diminishing return, and when Magic unlocks the last Soul slot. I was building up to All-40 until near the very end of NG+ when I started experimenting with the stats and how well they scaled with gear effects.

The gains and practical relevance of stats are pretty skewed.
Constitution is a pretty linear gain in Life, but you don't really need it above 10. You can get better survivability from higher Stamina.
Heart and Strength, unless you have set bonuses that scale off of them, have no reason to be raised higher than 20 and 15 respectively.
Stamina is best around 45 before its biggest diminishing returns on weight limit.
Magic may as well be 40 for all Onmyo slots, then go higher if you wanna be a mage.
That leaves Skill and Intellect, pump everything into them, then remodel your weapons' reference stats to scale off of them.
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>>733728048
>>733728174
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I hate the fish shogun. Worst boss in the game.
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>>733728048
>Destroy Hitler Amrita
>Becomes an architectural painter
Bravo team ninja
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>>733728761
>massive dr when attacking from the front
>have to hit his sides or back
>fucker is constantly turning towards you to make this as hard as possible
horrible fight
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>>733710301
>4p General of Ruin
>3p Brave Demon
>2p Sword and Zen
>3p Benz
>2p Hotei
>Sword of Salvation
I'm fucking deflection-maxxing
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>>733727709
>this isn't fromgarbage dodging isn't for using iframes in the enemy's face
>yes you actually have to avoid the entire attack hitbox in Nioh games
this is complete bullshit just in case any new players read this and took this fag seriously
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>>733729658
*grabs u*
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what's her problem?
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>>733730108
Needs defeat correction
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>>733730108
Someone stole her arm anon.
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Got the mirror on NG+, what should I be doing?
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>>733728174
>baal joined you as a guardian spirit
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>>733729049
I just kicked his ass. You have to hit him from the sides? I didn't notice any DR.
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>>733730349
lesser crucibles and spikes
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>>733722806
During the demo lol.
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>>733728472
honestly thanks man. I don't need 50 in constitution the difference of having the points elsewhere was like 350 hp.
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>item drop rate also increases equip drop rate
oh fuck now i need another piece of ebisu for my farming set



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