>Kickstarted the indie scene and proved that people could make games without help of big studios>Proved that videogames could be more than stomping on turtles and getting the high score, they could be used to tell stories>Invented the comfy horror genre and the action RPG genreIs Undertale the most influential videogame since Mario Bros?
>>733713627that's not fez
>>733713627that's not cave story
>>733713627I played it blind few months release and enjoyed it. Its not the greatest game of all the time but its one of the best of its year
>>733713627>for decades I thought this game was made by one person>turns out the creator already had an established fanbase from another thing>already made 50K before Undertale even releasedEvery successful indie game story has been nepo shit/fraudulent. There are very few indie games that are actual true success stories. And for Deltarune, its popularity seems not organic either because its fans only discuss shit that are their headcanon and never happened in the game.
>>733713627retarded zoomer.
>>733714496starting out in romhacking/fan-games before making your own stuff, is one of the most traditional and least-fraudulent ways to grind a fanbase.
>>733714628I was talking about Homestuck. People already know the BLM supporter Toby and already donated 50k to him even before Undertale released. This is why comparing other indie games to Undertale feels so disingenuous. Most indie devs don't have an established fanbase already and isn't given half a hundred thousand dollaroos before their game releases.
>>733714496Wait until you hear about Omori>Made by fat Chinese woman>Took like 10 years to develop and many thought they were scammed >At least she is a pervert, but it barely bleeds into the game because she hired a team of excess faggots who would make it awkward >Said excess faggots probably ate up a lot of the grift money >All for an rpgmaker game a single bored Japanese guy could make in a week>One that's art style, while decent, is deliberately cheap and sketchy
>>733714802Omori doesn't have nonbinary characters or girlbosses like Undertale/Deltarune do. Which is rare for games of that niche. Undertale emasculated and made the only masculine character in the franchise a joke and a punching bag (Asgore) because being male is bad. Every character has to look gender ambiguous because the BLM supporter creator has to pander to twitter instead of real people. Not that any of this matters because both games are garbage that would've gotten no attention if it wasn't for let's players and video essayists. People who got into videogames for gameplay don't care for these games.
>>733713627Tranny autistic games worshipped by the scum of society, made by a jew, of course. So it doesn't prove shit.
>>733713627That's not Braid.
>>733714978If we are to believe her word, she supposedly isolated while making the game to keep it "pure" so this could be why it feels not woke. Although there is a character she essentially let a random troon walk all over and insist he was actually born a woman. I think it may have been the troon's self insert OC to be fair though, never let these people suggest characters.
>>733715228>omori>not wokehuh?
>>733715338It isn't overbearing and is mostly limited to the real world in it
>>733715049/dbz/spic
>>733713627You're either retarded or pretending to be retarded, which makes you retarded. retard.
>>733713627>>Proved that videogames could be more than stomping on turtles and getting the high score, they could be used to tell storiesEverybody knows that was The Last of Us though
>>733714496>>turns out the creator already had an established fanbase from another thingNot really He was just a somewhat known Homestuck musician >>already made 50K before Undertale even releasedThat's how Kickstarter works, and how much the game raised doesn't mean muchHiveswap raised 2.5 million bucksMighty Number 9 raised almost 4 million bucksBoth games ended up instantly forgotten, and yet Undertale is still being talked about.Almost as if how much money you work with doesn't reflect how a successful a game will be, otherwise, we wouldn't have constant flops of recent AAA games.Also do you think Toby just magically raised 50K because of muh connections? He made a promising demo, people liked it and gave him money. It's not rocket science. >Every successful indie game story has been nepo shit/fraudulent. What nepo shit? Do you even know what this word means?And what does Toby do that is fraudulent? >And for Deltarune, its popularity seems not organic either because its fans only discuss shit that are their headcanon and never happened in the game.Wow retard, you may as well apply this to every fucking ongoing series ever.>>733714732>>733714978>muh BLMoh never mindIt's just some dumb /pol/nigger
>>733713627unironically yes, but its biggest contribution is ralsei faggots
>>733718728>Both games ended up instantly forgottenHiveswap is funnier than that because it's been over a decade and that shitty point and click game STILL hasn't been completely released.
>>733718728>He was just a somewhat knownYes anon, this is what we call "having an established, pre-existing fanbase".Your wall of reddit spaced cope text doesn't change the fact that Undertale and its success didn't magically spring forth out of the aether like so many people want to pretend.
>>733722040/v/ had nonstop toriel threads since the demo in 2013 so you bet your ass thats not all of it.
>>733722162>mentally ill jackasses have existed on /v/ since 20xx spamming "general" threads outside of /vg/ for some insipid sludgesay it ain't so.
>>733722162This
>>733722040>Yes anon, this is what we call "having an established, pre-existing fanbase".Anon, let me ask you a questionHow do you suppose Toby got his popularity in the first place before he made Undertale?I will answer that for you since you obviously don't know jack shit. He got his popularity from being a talented musician. That's it. If he wasn't talented, he wouldn't be part of the Homestuck music team, nor capable of making successful games like Undertale and Deltarune.Just because he didn't start from zero like ConcernedApe, that doesn't mean his feats is any less impressive.The guy literally had to work his way to reach where he is today.>Your wall of reddit spaced cope text doesn't change the fact that Undertale and its success didn't magically spring forth out of the aether like so many people want to pretend.That's a lot of words to say you got BTFO and can't any refute any more of my statements.
>>733723376>Just because he didn't start from zero like ConcernedApe, that doesn't mean his feats is any less impressive.Yes, it does make his feats all the less impressive. It's the difference between starting with $0 and becoming a millionaire under your own power, and starting with $0 (+ a small loan of $1,000,000 from daddy) and becoming a millionaire.
>>733723516>joining a popular webcomic music team through your talent is the same thing as getting a loan of million dollar from a family member Were you dropped on your head as an infant?
>>733723516Toby Fox started out with approximately 5 million dollars though. His parents were quite well off and didn't want to see their son suffer.
