we didnt know how good we had it
>>733714086>VRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRwas kinda annoyingcarts were the real peak>no installs, no noise, it just works
>>733714086I owned one of these but only had like 5 movies. When Blu-Ray won out I sold it at a garage sale.
>>733714086Are you being serious?
Even back then people were baffled by this.
>>733715804yes
>>733715842Uh, no? This was considered the pinnacle of soul.
>>733715842>fucking HD DVDs, how do they work?please get a juggalo to explain
HD DVD was funny because they waited far too long after blu-ray had already gotten rolling and PS3's were actually being bought. If they immediately tried to stop blu-ray with HD DVD right after the PS3 was announced, maybe it would've worked.
On June 15, 2007 Buka Entertainment (Russian distributor of, among many others, Ubisoft) announced the release of a HD-DVD-ROM version of Peter Jackson's King Kong made to promote the upcoming Toshiba laptops with HD-DVD readers, to be pressed by Markon Media.It's not known if this release ended up happening at all, given that Toshiba abandoned the format in February 2008. There's a chance a small run was produced for marketing purposes. Oddly enough, the source material for the game itself was used to promote the format, given that a copy of the movie was included with every Xbox 360 HD DVD player.
>>733715906>>733715915It was already over by the time this was introduced.
>>733714086I'm glad we passed the optical phase and returned to normalcy
>>733715002Definitely felt satisfying which disks and downloafs simply can't do. Holding a hunk of plastic with a nice label on it made it feel like your game was an actual, physical posession, not just a program.
>>733714086I remember playing GTA IV, being absolutely blown away - thinking about how amazing games would be 10 years from now. Yeah, we saw how that turned out.
>>733716142For me it was MGS2.
>>733716049lol
I was only ever impressed with the evolution in audio when games moved to CD's but we had vinyl at home
>>733716142For me it was literally any game from the golden 1998-2008 era. I kept thinking "wow these games can only get bigger, better, and have more depth!"Imagine my disappointment when games became smaller, worse and more shallow to appeal to the lowest possible dalit niggers and their 60IQ lifespan and views on media. Or when games became interactive movies instead of better games
>>733716703Vinyl sounds better if you have a real stereo>>733714086Hilarious that they tried to push this accessory for extra money when the thing had a disc driveNo way they couldn’t just release an update
>>733716809HD-DVD uses blue lasers.
>>733716142Games around 2018 (10 years after gta 4) actually were amazing compared to the 7th gen, only 1-2 years later started to stagnate or downright regress.
>>733714086How different would we be if it took off instead? Does HD DVD have any real advantages over Blu-Ray as a format?
>>733717484It was cheaper to make, and region free. That's it.Now it's a bitch to play.Warner Bros. (one of the big backers of the format) also suffered manufacture issues that made plenty of HD DVD (and regular DVD) discs useless.See also:https://youtu.be/2G9n0vJiKXw?t=873
>>733714086>nostalgia thread>look inside>7th gen cancer
>>733717043>Games around 2018 (10 years after gta 4) actually were amazing compared to the 7th genGod no. I can't think of a single good game from 2018
>>733714086There was nothing good about HD-DVD
>>733714086I bought an external dvd player, I have many movies and shit on discsYes I know I can stream them in 4k for free
>>733717839HD-DVD menu structure was better than Blu-ray's.
>>733717736Retard
>>733718062Proving his point
>>733716049There are people over 18 posting here now that have never bought a physical game.
>>733716049Remember that the only reason we don't have this anymore is because downloads and plastic discs are cheaper.
>>733718309XD
>>733718950Vavra?
>>733718061That doesn't mean anything, menus are free form either way.
>>733719198No. Have some AI slop.
Were hd dvds any different video quality wise from blu ray?
>>733720096They were effectively quad layer DVDs, so a dual layer HDDVD was limited to around 33GB of storage. That's barely enough for a 1080p movie using AVC.
>>733720096Blu-ray had a higher maximum bitrate, thanks to their higher capacity.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_high-definition_optical_disc_formats
>>733715002better graphics and full motion video are nice as hell but something about the near instant load times and pure physical feeling of holding your game was so nice
With that said, there are plenty of lossless audio tracks that became casualties in the format war.A big example being the Dolby TrueHD audio track of Happy Feet, stuck in HD-DVD.
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>>733718858remember when the switch to digital was going on and corporations said it would lower the price of games because they didn't need to print discs and pay for shipping and now games are $79?
company wars bullshit
>Snoy rolls with Blu Ray>Guess we gotta be the other guy
>>733720910Unironically yes, that's what happened. Microsoft wanted Sony to waste resources in a pointless format war so they could move on to digital.
>>733715842>>733714086>>733715857I hope this is bait
>>733720658Anyone who believes the price of mainstream video games is, in any way, connected to the money it takes to print and ship copies is a fucking moron who needs to take economics 101
>>733721342a lot of retards out there
>>733715906I've got one of those in my closet along with a few HDDVDs. It's total dogshit. I'm frankly baffled how anyone could think this garbage would ever win against BD. There was nothing "soul" about it, nothing Microsoft has ever made has any "soul".
>>733721091why do you hate SOVL
The drive's a piece of shit. I remember calling Microsoft because my 360's internal disc drive died and liked to eat and scratch the shit out of my games, and I asked if I could use the HD-DVD drive to act as an external loader for my games. They were baffled by the question and put me on hold for like fifteen minutes, only to come back and say it was impossible.
>>733717484it was lower capacity than blu-ray which directly translated to having lower bitrates and worse image quality. it could have more elaborate interactive menus than blu-ray but that was about it.the only reason to champion it over blu-ray was that the HD DVD association stated they wouldn't switch AACS keys if they were ever cracked, which would've made it very easy to rip from like DVD, versus blu-ray regularly rotating to new AACS keys to prevent them from being permanently compromised.i don't think they would've stuck with this as they already had plans to introduce draconian DRM later on like blocking analog video output so you could only use HDMI with HDCP.tl;dr things would be slightly worse but not very different.
>>733722364they were toying with the idea, as the HD-DVD drive's firmware has code to recognize XGD and XGD2 discs, but the operating system is designed to play dumb if you put in anything but a DVD or HD-DVD.given how the internal DVD drives were all keyed to the console they came in as part of the DRM scheme, they were probably never going to enable playing games through the external HD-DVD drive, but instead were considering swapping the internal drive for an HD-DVD drive if the format took off.what could've been.
>>733723073I never knew the bit about the firmware - that's a really neat detail. Thanks, anon.
>>733718858The same reason as to why there aren't hand painted portraits on toilet paper, btw.
>>733720658Well you see, the prices did actually lower because of inflation being a thing. Checkmate. You actually do get so many games for almost nothing these days that it's still true, even if you ignore the magic thing that makes your money worthless over time
>>733720395You should realize that cartridges were just shitty external SSDs.
>>733717720>reee my childhood is the center of the universe not yours settle down, bald man
>>733724724NTA. That only applies to modern cartridges. Old cartridges were mask ROMs, that are way better at keeping data, and a lot more expensive.
>>733716142GTA V blew it out of the water and released only 5 years later
>>733725282I summon crowbcat to correct this peasant!
