https://www.gog.com/en/game/final_fantasy_viiThe OG FF7 is now on GOG completely DRM free, no shitty fucking Square Enix account required anymore!
>>733719459>PC version>OriginalLMAO
>>733719459I don't get it. If you're going to play an almost 30 year old game on your pc just download a rom...
>>733719652Emulation doesn't have the same modding support the PC version gets which has a lot of benefits
>it's just the ps4/switch port>with the shitty battle menus locked to 15fpsI'll stick to duckstation
>>733719459Also added as a free version of you boughted it on steam too
I guess this is okay? Except the Steam version just has SteamDRM now. With all the mods working EZPZ there is no other version or variant to play, they are all inferior.
>>733720131Steam version is also full price right now whereas GOG version is on sale
Steam launch is botched, currently 0 bytes in size and download doesn't work. But hey, it's nice to see it with actual controls.
>>733719709All of the ports are patched up PC-98.
>>733721961you'd think they would fix this shit, FF7 is their golden goose
Is Ff7 even worth playing?
>>733719652>I don't get it. If you're going to play an almost 30 year old game on your pc just download a rom...Emulated versions don't have parallel dimensions inside of them. Only official ports do.
it's like 5 dollarydoos with the code from mail, fair enough
>>733719459>gogtrash
The Steam version has been updated to FINAL FANTASY VII (2013) in the library, but not in the store, and the ability to purchase it has been removed.Disregard, https://store.steampowered.com/app/3837340/FINAL_FANTASY_VII/That's the new Steam version. Who's Fine, Co., Ltd.?
>>733722046Yes. Midgar is fantastic. After leaving the city it becomes a bit less so with every new area until it becomes really mediocre, but by that point you're almost finished with the game anyway.>>733723917<-- lmao lol
>>733722046It's fantastic, and don't listed to the trite about only Midgar being good. The rest of the game is fantastic, especially second disk. FFVII is at its most fun when it opens up
Seems like they messed up the speed of the game, battles are like 2x the intended speed
The 8 remaster and 3 + 4 3D remakes look worth a try. Are they good enough replacements for the base games, or do they ruin it?
>>733724249post midgar is the best part of FF7
>>7337254248 remaster has some small censorship, 3+4 3d remakes are good
>>733719459Why the fuck does it still require the login on steam ?
>>733723917Ah it’s basically the latest version from switch ported over?
looks like Japanese is now a supported language unlike the original steam releaseBut if it's true they changed the battle speed i might stick with the original.>I WANT THE ORIGINAL VERSIONbuy a cd key
>new release of FF7>still has a fucking launcherKill these people, holy fucking retards
>>733719459>GOG finally got THE Japanese gameHoly shit.
>>733725738launcher has options, retard
>>733725552Are you sure you're starting the new version? The new one doesn't have the 2013 suffix on the title. It's just 'Final Fantasy VII'
>>733725640It's the console version backported.
>>733726919According to whom?
Just tested it outthe battle speed is on steroids and Cloud defaults to running in the map screen.Yeaahh...this is a hard pass. Buy the CD Key if you want, and if it's the Japanese language you want from the game stick with emulation.
>>733725329Isn't it a turn based game?
>>733727673>Isn't it a turn based game?Sort of. It's "Active Time Battle". There is a way in the settings to make it true turn based, but that's not the default setting.As of right now, i shudder to think of how fast the game will be after casting Haste.
>>733725643>>733727523>>733727753>namefag>pass user>reddit spacingyou need to go back
>>733719459Oh shit this probably means no more SE account bullshit? I can use the latest version of 7th Heaven without having to log in?
the only original is the ps1 emulated version
>>733727991>you need to go backyou don't know who i am? i'm the anon that sued FROM SOFTWARE and BANDAI NAMCO GAMES over Elden Ring. That's not relevant to this topic however.I use a tripcode so i can have a searchable post history on 4chan.
>>733728069>emulatedBitch please play on PS1 or PS2 for the original experience or fuck off.
>>733726938Me.
>>733725458What did they censor?
>>733719459Won't play unless they restore this plotline. I want to pay for Tifa's services myself.
>>733728104>i'm the anon that sued FROM SOFTWARE and BANDAI NAMCO GAMES over Elden RingSo not only an annoying tripfag and passfag but also clinically schizophrenic, got it. Go back to the mental ward.
Not up on gog-games.to yet
>>733728543>Won't play unless they restore this plotline.That plotline belongs to ff7's parallel dimension. They already used ff7's parallel dimension's battle system for default ff7 remake, but didn't include this plotline for whatever reason in that version of the game.Anyway, someday you will be able to play that version of the game. Just sit tight or, if you want to help us find it, take the red pill and pay the psycho tax to help us find it.
>>733719564it came out for windows 98
>>733726806No, I'm not sure. I tried it like a week ago last time.
>>733719690>which has a lot of benefitsall your mods are gay and for retards. anyone who likes FF7 PC modding is fucking gay and retarded
Why are you like this?
>no more forced SE account
is the GOG version as broken as the new steam port?
>>733729008>I tried it like a week ago last time.Anon, this thread is about the re-release version that just came out today.
>>733719652Mods you gay retard
>>733729637reviews on gog are too busy celebrating they have games at all
>>733729637No SE account at the very least.Probably want to still use 7th Heaven if you want to better speedup features and such.I'll install it now and have a look but it'll take a bit.
>>733729637Just booted it and it's not the Eidos version that's on Steam. It's the Dotemu port.
Ok so this is the version that is also coming to steam later since this is just the console port.Also meaning the old mods won't work here.
>>733722083>Emulated versions don't have parallel dimensions inside of them.what did he mean by this
>>733728873Omg you again, get out of here schizo
Does it work with the 7th Heaven mod manager?
>>733731517Not yet because it's the dotemu port, not the eidos port that's been on Steam for ages.
>>733731212>what did he mean by thisgoogle "elden ring lawsuit". that should tell you the jist, except news outlets misreported the claims and think i sued the game because it's "too hard". that's not what it is.>>733731264you can't cancel me. seethe.
>>733726741which are accessible in game, making it pointless
Always block tripfagsNever reply to tripfags
>>733732316This tripfag is pretty cool and he bought an anon a game for christmas. I was in the thread where it happened.
>>733719690I'd respect the mods if they weren't mostly just HD crap that is grossly unfitting, or trying to unfuck various problems with the port itself. At some point I'd just recommend the PS1 version because despite certain bugs at least it's the game that was intended.
>>733722046Is the bola de dragón of JRPGS.
does tifa still call barret a retard?
>>733732802nothing has changed
the sound effects are all fucked up in the snowboarding minigame
>>733732859
>>733732802Depends if she did in the newer console ports because this is just those on PC.
>>733728846this means it's not out yet
>>733733027i meant story you moron
>>733730303Is that a good or bad thing?
>>733733878see >>733733027better in some ways than the current steam port, but fucked up certain things like the minigames extra hard. as per usual, there is no "perfect port" without fans having to unfuck things.
>>733733878It's the version that's on newer consoles.Which means that the mods for the old version aren't compatible (yet). But it doesn't require SE account, and has better speed up function without modding than the eidos version.
>>733722046If you use the Reunion mod that improves the translation, yes. It holds up better than most of the games that come after it. It's not perfect by any means and a few of the side quests and extras are kind of annoying. But nowhere near something like FF8 and 10.>>7337254248 Remaster is absolute trash because they just took the original files and upscaled them (into a blurry mess). You actually have to use a mod to restore them to the original. And then there's no point. Everything else about the game is the same. So might as well just play the regular version.FF3 DS, which the PC version is based on, is good in some ways. Like adding some characterization and new story to the game. But worse in others. Like the change in enemies and the job system. I'd say it's worth playing along with the Pixel Remaster.FF4 Remake on PC is straight up trash. They use the iphone menues and resolution. And the game already had some issues on the DS. Namely they tried to make it super serious like a Tomino anime when the original game wasn't trying to be. And the same problem with enemies as FF3 Remake has. Just play the Pixel Remaster which retains the original tone, pacing and balance. Plus it's half the time. You can beat it in 15 hours.
>>733734089>nowhere near something like FF8 and 10.I can understand liking 10 more (even that's a bit of a stretch) but fucking 8? 8 could've been a fucking masterpiece if it didn't fall off the stairs and hit its headDid someone play the succession mod? I wanna see how bad it gets lol
play the original black label ps1 release bros
>>733734785I mean that FF8 and 10 are examples of games that have even more extreme and annoying filler/side quests, making FF7 look good by comparison.Though I do agree with you that FF8 could have been one of the best...except Rinoa and Disk 3 happened.
>>733719459it's 1.60 USD on my countrymight as well get it
>>733735069ah very true my bad i cannot read and i have a stroke from work
>>733733027updatedalso kek the version they took off of steam had overwhelmingly positive reviews and now they replaced it with this version that has overwhelmingly negative reviews. nice job.
>>733735170Based Qatari-sama
>picrel>27 years later they struggle to re-release the game and it's in a worse state than beforeyep humans are devolving to be more retarded and incompetent
>>733738517It's the difference between a bunch of guys from the 90s vs "devs" who were hired because they're brown
>>733719459It's a shit version of the game.
>>733738517The people that made the ports were niggers
>>733732802She calls you, the player, a retard for making her climb so many stairs.
>>733741482>fight your way through the elevator>go back down to the bottom>run up all the stairs and get the couple items>characters don't complain
it's uphttps://gog-games.to/game/final_fantasy_vii
>>733719459>Final Fantasy 3 (3D) = good old game>Final Fantasy 4 (3D) = good old game>Final Fantasy 8 = good old game>Final Fantasy 9 = good old game>Final Fantasy 7 = no labelConfirmed by GOG, FF7 is the worst Final Fantasy.
>>733737119>imageforants.jpg
>>733719459>Throwing money at current year SE instead of downloading a ROM and using Duckstation
>>733738517Final Fantasy was at its best before voice acting and when the sprites or 3D actors were simple and abstract.Videogames that try to use realistic 3D models in TV-like cutscenes are almost universally bad, FFX is no exception.
>>733744221>Videogames that try to use realistic 3D models in TV-like cutscenes are almost universally badAlmost and universally...you know what, nevermind. The point is, there are exceptions. But FFX did start the problem most following games had. It's not that cutscenes are bad. But empty filler dialogue and bad scene direction is. And FFX is full of it. FFX is on the level of something like Metroid Other M or Breath of the Wild in the way cutscenes are done. That's the problem. And Final Fantasy IV and VI also had this problem, without voice acting.
>>733719459Gog doesn't use protection
Sephiros is my favorite JRPG villain.
>OP has an actual vidya announcement for once instead of politically motivated ragebait >it’s a giant nothingburger Well, at least it actually *is* video games.
Goddamn, Square, how do you fuck that up
>>733745094He's somehow both overrated and underrated. He has threads of characterization that no one talks about because fans just want him to give Cloud Dis Pear
So do I emulate or play this version?
can anyone give me the 5% discount code from the gog Newsletter?please
>>733745527Unless you're looking to mod it with new sounds, graphics and challenge stuff, just emulate. The PC ports are dogshit without mods, and right now things are having to reorient themselves for this new version stuff.
>>733745527Given that >>733745460 apparently they didn't include the installer yet, I guess it's emulation if you want to play it today.
>>733722046It's a stone cold classic
I'm playing it for the first time on Vita. Just got Cloud back in the party. It's okay. It feels more dated than Chrono Trigger cause it's so slow and clunky and has a bunch of dated shit that CT solved.Story is fine I guess. After Midgar you're basically just chasing Sephiroth like a dog chasing a mailman. Aerith has gotta be one of the most overrated girls in vidya.Customization is interesting but I feel like every materia takes so long to level up.Everyone really is a blank slate in a way that's more dire than FFV because in that game you're kinda growing characters out, if that makes sense. Like if you focus a character on magic jobs they're gonna be better magic users than someone trained in physical stuff generally. But because it's all arbitrary it mostly boils down to limit breaks.Music is killer.
Final Fantasy 7 was always free ya doofus.
>>733745519He's not really that great because he's pretty much a tool. And he has a mental breakdown, just like Cloud. Difference is, Cloud realizes it and improves with the help of Tifa. Sephiroth just remains in his delusion. And gets killed.The real villain of FF7 is Hojo and various guys in Shinra. But many people didn't get it with the original PS1 translation. You need to play the Reunion mod, where a lot more is explained during Cloud and Vincent's flashbacks.
>>733719459What even is GOG? I get that it’s a place where people download games for free, but apparently it’s not piracy? Do companies upload their games here like “yup now it’s free forever” yet keep charging on other platforms? Do users upload ROMs? Why has it taken 30 years for FFVII in that case? I just don’t get it
>battles at 2x speed>FFVIII sound effects in the main menu???>blurry mess>no mods
>>733746190It's basically a storefront where CD Projekt Red could sell their games separately of Steam without DRM and get the full proceeds for the time before it expanded outwards into a no-DRM site altogether. Yeah, some companies genuinely sell shit with no DRM on GOG, and then put DRM on it elsewhere; look at Capcom putting their Enigma garbage all over the Dino Crisis ports brought liberally over from the GOG releases. It's a legitimate storefront, however, rather than some user experience thing so people aren't uploading their own crap; instead GOG just takes these old ports, uses fan community patches if available and redistributes them. And sometimes they get modern games too.
>>733746112>demake
>>733728881it came out originally for ps1 97
Which one is better game, Breath of Fire 4 or Final Fantasy 9?
>>733719652>a rom.it's like a dozen of cd images
>>733746394>doesn't enjoy upskirts of FF7 womenFedora please leave us normal human beings alone and stick to tummy swords with footfags.
>>733746598Depends on what you're looking for. FF9 is a "richer" experience for content but absolutely slow as fucking molasses and has some seriously dumb little things. BOF4 is a fun little game with beautiful visuals and some oddities, but ends way too soon for the way the story unfolds.
>>733746190>What even is GOG?It's a storefront. I've gotten a lot of stuff for free but that's not really the focus of GOG. I go there when I want demos that are no longer on Steam, or stuff like VTMB where they include basic fan patches to unfuck the game. Recently they've leaned heavily into digital vidya preservation, which I really appreciate. I'll download ROMs all day every day, currently I'm playing through a fan translation of DQ1 & 2 (just beat 1 and started 2) and I just beat a romhack of Zelda 2, but I also like to purchase things legitimately and sometimes GOG is the best option.
>>733746697>doesn't enjoy upskirts of FF7 womenI do. But FF7 Remake isn't "FF7 women." It's ugly CGI barbie dolls, closer to Dead or Alive 5 than it is their original anime designs.
Did they fix Sephiroth's hilarious open mouth? The steam version is unplayable because of this, though it is funny
>>733745892>It feels more dated than Chrono Trigger cause it's so slow and clunky and has a bunch of dated shit that CT solved.Options menuMax battle speedActive modeYou are now actually playing FF7, thank me later
>>733746818Too old, she can get a sword to the back for all i care at this point.
>>733724249>Midgar midgar midgar!!!The game is actually great throughout
I'm watching a speedrunner play it now, and he knows the game inside and out>Combat runs at 30 FPS instead of 15, so combats are nearly unplayable>SFX that's supposed to loop and play over other audio just... doesn't>Backgrounds are blurry as fuckIt's clear that there was zero QA on this gameNot a single person even played the first fucking fight with SOLDIER to see that it was fucked up
>>733744661FFman was diagnosed with cancer but the cancerous franchise ran, ate, socialized and did everything an FFman could do, but it had cancer in its body. FFX has the cancer in its managed livable form. Let no one pretend it didn't.
this game are shit
was Tifa a virgin in FF7?
>>733747003PSX versions are always betterEven the remasters were fucked up really bad or even censored on purpose FYI
What is the obsession with killing pixels on older games? They did it to all the modern FF PS1 ports, it's like they can't STAND the idea of these pixelated prerenders existing so they slap a bilinear filter over top, and it royally fucks everything because there wasn't one iota of a fuck given. World map 3D assets get blatant tiling, high resolution models clash even more with the blurred shit that looks like a separate reality, and they regularly fuck up the masking for foreground layers while also occasionally fucking up animated backgrounds something fierce. I have to wonder who is making these decisions?
>>733747176>they slap a bilinear filter over top, and it royally fucks everything because there wasn't one iota of a fuck givenWell this is one of the devs, so it's kinda to be expected
>>733746502that was the beta tester release, the full one, with the composer's higher quality tracks available to be rendered if you had the correct hardware, released on pc
PC masterrace
>>733744661>nevermindGood, I've had enough of midwits failing to be clever today.
>>733747292midis on pc are not the intended soundtrack, now stop doing this every thread that involves the pc release
>>733719459Is this the version that’s replacing the one currently on steam? That one is being delisted
>>733747352it is the new version
>>733747352>That one is being delistedIt's already goneIf you didn't own the 2013 version earlier today, you can never get it again
>>733744661And no, none of the pre-FFX games have a problem with uncanny, not sufficiently human models trying to act out fully-blocked, realistic cutscenes.
You guys are like little babies, let me help youTo begin with, you can't just play FF7 raw on a modern screen. I mean you literally cannot; the assets were made to be filtered through the scanlines of a CRT, perhaps more intentionally than any game ever made. Either use mods for HD backgrounds and HD chibi models, or apply a CRT scanline filter. If you aren't doing either of these things, you are making the game hideously ugly, playing it wrong, and punishing yourselfSecond, play with the correct options settings. Max battle speed, Active mode. Your ATB gauge should fill near-instantly. This is the best way to experience the game by far. Next, understand that certain versions of the game are fucked up. If you've never played the original game before, it has perhaps the most powerful story in any video game, unironically... and it's going to be ruined by various factors, such as Sephiroth's wide open mouth like he's always about to eat a hotdog. This is not the only reason, but it's among the worst. All in all, the best way to play FF7 is to emulate the PS1 release, applying a scanline filter in your emulator of choice. Save this post so you and the people you love won't butcher a classic anymore
>>733732772Those screenshots all fucking suck.
>>733747176Nips hates how id software and 3dfx were superior, and how the console ports for japan were ass, while the akihabara chads had top of the line PC's at home
>>733747249>a rajeeshEVERY SINGLE TIME
>>733747176They should have stretched it to 16:9 too for the modern audience.
>>733747342this is the real version of the soundtrack by the original composer, this is what he was trying to make before having to reduce the fidelity for the psx releasehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpAvX5VEelM&list=PL_BhbJAAueZQYWaFUqPD1nuV_h6Qo6ejSthat's the way it is, i don't know why you believe you're in a debate
>>733719459You can't mod this version, and you haven't needed an SE account with FFNx and Seventh Heaven for years.
>>733746808>>733746360So, even i f the port is bad, at least it's a good version to have of FF7, without the DRM stuff. So people can at least fix it later with mods.
>>733747550Anon, Square could had shipped FF7 with higher res assets and Redbook audio for PC since PC's had OGG redbook audio at that time outside wav, but they didnt, fucking silver that came a year later had higher res stuff in it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhK4iMV3k6kAnd it is a fun underrated gameJapanese devs being 10 years behind on pcdev always bit them in the ass since the old gigi thinks that pc = perv machines.
>>733747513>And no, none of the pre-FFX games have a problem with uncanny, not sufficiently human models trying to act out fully-blocked, realistic cutscenes.FF8 was trying to go more towards realism than it was anime. And definitely imitating Hollywood movies. It just benefited from having some of, if not the best direction in the franchise history when it came to the FMVs. But the in game cutscenes were definitely going for the same tone as FF10 was. Where do you think FF10 got it from? It was made by the same team, which both Kitase and Nomura stated they'd been trying to aim for imitating Hollywood since FF6. FF8 was just the first time they had something close to being able to. And FF10 just was the next step forward with that.FF9 also has the problem. Even though the visual design is highly stylized, it tries way too hard to focus on animations and cinematics. To the point of causing cutscenes and battles to be way slower than they should be. Another problem that continued on with FF10.tl;dr the cancer of imitating Hollywood and realism started long before 10. 10 was just the next evolution.
>>733747653The OG version had native 16:9 with mods. No stretching.
>>733747924>native with mods
>>733747924>The OG version had native 16:9 with mods>OG version>modsThe fuck you saying
I'll just play the PS1 version with shaders.
>>733748108>>733747550based
>>733719459>OG>It's the Steam version aka the iOS version with lazy portingThey're even using the same PR image set for the store page. A shame but it looks like Square Enix doesn't want anybody to play the original PC port of FF7 after all, even though we know GoG could do it too because they already did it for the Resident Evil, MGS, and Dino Crisis games.
>>733747948>>733747958OG as in the current version doesn't have mod support, darkskin. Native as in it doesn't require anything other than the FFNx wrapper. Indianbros...
>>733748217The GOG release already has 7th Heaven Canary version support at least.
>>733748217>native other than the fact that it's not nativeI want browns to stop using the Internet.
>>733748209>They're even using the same PR image set for the store page. A shame but it looks like Square Enix doesn't want anybody to play the original PC port of FF7 after all, even though we know GoG could do it too because they already did it for the Resident Evil, MGS, and Dino Crisis games.what did gog do in those cases? did they do the port job themselves?
>>733746308It's a known issue that FF7's modern ports are all garbage. Just emulate the PS1 version and be done with it.
>>733747124No.
>>733747868Yeah and ff8 is the worst-looking one before FFX (and unlike 7, 9 and 10 it doesn't even really look good in screenshots)
>>733748314Those games already had PC ports so GoG just did their standard for retro releases: tracking down the rights, getting the license to distribute, repacking for digital installation, removing ancient dependencies such as DRM, and applying whatever simple fixes and wrappers necessary to get the game running on modern windows. A shame the MGS2 PC port got pulled, apparently there's something in the game that was licensed out but had to be replaced in the Master Collection version.
>>733747868>tl;dr the cancer of imitating Hollywood and realism started long before 10. 10 was just the next evolution.Wasn't this Sakaguchi's goal with FF6 and after? Takahashi left Square because Sakaguchi wanted to copy movies and Nomura said fuck you to Kitase and got a budget for an FF13 spinoff that was the same as FF13 because Kitase and Toriyama wanted to turn FF13 into a movie.
>>733749020I see, the weird part is how this re-release shows SE at least cares about trying to have an improved or decent version going on in all platforms. They just have no idea of who to hire to do a decent job.
>>7337491901) Sakaguchi has interviews even earlier than FFVI where he said he was always trying to make stuff like Hollywood movies. He just didn't have the technology to do it (but even then, you can see FF2 and 4 were already trying).2) Nomura was trying to make FFVersus into an interactive movie... Which is why it was such a mess in development. All the videos we ever saw were cutscenes or QTEs. The whole pitch for FFVersus was being an "interactive movie." Where combat and cutscenes would be indistinguishable.
Looks nice with some shadows. Though who cares about that stuff.
>>733748289This is what I was wondering about. I might pick it up on gog then.
tldr is this better than the 2013 version?
So is this another situation like with Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition, Sonic Generations, etc. getting removed from Steam and replaced with an updated version but as long as you have the original in your library you can still re-download and play it?
>>733750612the id Software remasters lets you keep the originals.Square eunuchs doesnt
>>733750547Ignoring any mods for the 2013 version. Yes, if for nothing more than not needing a sqinxs account
>>733750612You keep the 2013 Steam version if you already have it.
>>733750612The old port is listed as (2013) on Steam now if you had it before, yeah.
>>733749426>2) Nomura was trying to make FFVersus into an interactive movie... Which is why it was such a mess in development. All the videos we ever saw were cutscenes or QTEs. The whole pitch for FFVersus was being an "interactive movie." Where combat and cutscenes would be indistinguishable.Not him, but I'm pretty sure that was Toriyama? Kitase actually gave Versus the okay but it was Nomura who wanted to break free from the limits of cutscene-hold forward-random/symbol encounter-cutscene-hold forward. He said that level design was going to be one of Versus 13's most important features.>The whole pitch for FFVersus wasA fantasy based on reality or a Final Fantasy that would blatantly comment on real-world political issues without the names of real places and heads of state, but that's a separate thing from the point being made here.
>>733750819>a Final Fantasy that would blatantly comment on real-world political issues without the names of real places and heads of stateThat explains why Yoshi-P took a similar route and even went as far as hiring KH2 devs to work with him on FFXVI. Fucker also believed in the Versus trilogy.
>>733750819> but it was Nomura who wanted to break free from the limits of cutscene-hold forward-random/symbol encounter-cutscene-hold forward. He said that level design was going to be one of Versus 13's most important features.Source? Because all the footage and hype for the game all the time Nomura was in charge showed otherwise.
>>733751080>How do you consider that Versus XIII can offer this counterpoint to the Final Fantasy series?The stories from the past entries in the Final Fantasy series are not exactly as I would have done, but that’s as it should be because I didn’t direct them. My only concern in terms of Versus XIII is that FF always talks about human emotion and psychologies in a broad way, and I want to go deeper in terms of offering some crude reality in terms of human emotion or human behaviour. The goal, when a player holds a controller and plays an RPG, is to make them believe in another world – to experience a dream in a fictional world. It will be different in Versus XIII because of the intrusion of the real world, and things that are really happening. There will be less fiction and more reality.>Do you mean real-world events?Absolutely.>Do you think the power of the new generation of consoles means that there is a responsibility on game developers to deliver a new kind of gaming experience, rather than just better graphics, and is this part of your thinking with Versus XIII?Is there a new direction for game conception in general? If there is, then like you say it’s less about breathtaking graphics and perhaps more of a level design problem – one of the directions that interests me is how to manage and create, using the PS3, a seamless environment. In the past, field space has always been limited technically – in Versus XIII we want to see a seamless environment, and that in itself will create new situations and game elements. For example, someone could be shooting at you from a very great distance, or a battle could be happening both outside and inside a building in a very seamless manner. That’s part of what we want to do using new technology.https://www.fanverse.org/threads/new-tetsuya-nomura-interview-regarding-final-fantasy-xiii.240240/
>>733751080>footageSpeaking in this week's Famitsu, Final Fantasy Versus XIII director Tetsuya Nomura has said that the earliest we're going to see his game is at E3 next June."We'll gradually unveil it starting next year, at E3 if we're quick enough," said Nomura.He also talked about the development video shown at the Tokyo Game Show on the game."That wasn't development stuff, but a technical demo reel of sorts. We hurriedly put together a video because we wanted people be assured that Versus is also still under development."He also confirmed that the gameplay for the game will be similar of that to Kingdom Hearts."It will fall close to that category, but we're aiming for a fusion of new features with the classic FF style. We see level design as the most important part of development here, but it'll be a while before we can show any of that."https://www.vg247.com/nomura-versus-xiii-will-be-at-e3-if-were-quick-enough
>>733747747>Yamaha>Not a Roland SC-88/SC-88ProFake. Every gamer knows that the Japanese were ripping sound samples from the Rolands and continue to do so to this day.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqbh4HcYahs
>>733751291>>733751417Literally nothing you posted proved your point or mine. These are massive generalizations and ideas Nomura never got around to actually implimenting. All we ever saw was tech demos and gameplay, which were focused on lots of talking during fight scenes or having "seemless transitions from FMVs to in game cutscenes." Which is the only thing in your wall of text Nomura actually touched on.And these walls of text are also very familiar...Barry sama.
>>733751875Are you sure that's Barry? Barry defends all the changes Tabata made to Final Fantasy 15. The common narrative on 4chan is that Versus under Nomura would be a better game (depends on what definition), which wallposter anon seems to be proving.
>>733749190>Takahashi left Square because Sakaguchi wanted to copy movies and Nomura said fuck you to Kitase and got a budget for an FF13 spinoff that was the same as FF13 because Kitase and Toriyama wanted to turn FF13 into a movie.It's times like this I wish Stellafag still posted regularly. She loved the Tetsuyas like you wouldn't believe
>>733752234Barry defends everything to do with FF13. Including coming up with tons of interviews (and walls of speculation) for why all those tech demos and the pre-FF13 stuff was amazing. And saying Tabata just implemented it all of it into FF13.
>>733752515>Barry defending Toriyama's gameThis is new.
Sqeenix ports of old games are ALWAYS spiteful hack-jobs. It's not even unique to PC ports because when Sqeenix would port some older console game over to newer handhelds or consoles they'd still fuck with them in malicious ways. It makes a lot more sense when you remember how these old Jap Boomer executives don't understand why ANYONE would want to play an old game instead of buy my studio's most recent NEW release?!?!
Why is Smash more faithful than the remake?
>>733748301Retard. It could imply that it doesn't rely on external measures to achieve its purpose. For instance, if you add gameplay support to a game that doesn't support it, it can be described as now being natively compatible with controllers with said mod. Your brain is Indian mush. Legitimately unintelligent.
>>733744221>Final Fantasy was at its best before voice actingFF10 is the best Final Fantasy game.
>>733752709>gameplay supportgamepad
>>733752302>StellafagWho?
The GOG achievment unlock sound is more satisfying than Steamshttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/sNhyJRmJGFc?feature=share
>>733752716I just replayed all the FF games from 1-10. I used to think FF10 was one of the better ones, but it did not age well. It's got almost all the same problems as the later games. Tons of filler, terrible cutscenes, dumb story, etc. But also, an obsession with graphics to the point that it makes everything slower. Even combat.Combat also sucks because, while the ideas of being able to switch party members is great, the implementation of it is horrible. Having to constantly switch characters to allow them to touch an enemy and get EXP/AP means every battle takes 3x longer. As well as making characters like Khimari, Rikku and Lulu fall behind the others since mid and late game, the melee characters do far more damage. Simply allowing everyone to earn EXP/AP while off field would solve this (something earlier FF games did). But they fucked even that up.And then there's the terrible enemy variety. With 80% of the enemies in the game being flying enemy, dog, magic enemy and armored enemy. So the gameplay just boils down to rock paper scissors.On top of all this, the game has some of the worst side quests ever. And you even have to backtrack through the entire map (with no warp option) to get Auron and Tidus' gear. Because if you don't do it before getting the airship, their overdrives get locked out. But then after getting the airship...you get the warp option. Right after you don't need it. This is massive levels of developer trolling. And there's dozens of other things that are time-wasting filler like this. The worst of all is all the shit you do to get the celestial weapons and extra Aeons...only for the final boss of the game to troll you and you realize you can just kill it with your starting weapons and one Aeon.And I didn't even get to how stupid the story and dialogue is.tl;dr It's nowhere near the best FF game. The only people who would think so are graphicsfags blinded by nostalgia.
>>733742858Mostly means they couldn't/didn't patch anything or SE gave them a shit version like >>733748209saysKind of explains why the base price is 4 burgers, there's no way SE would drop their beloved baby for that low if there weren't a catch.
>>733748301>>733747948Don't be retarded. RenoDX adds NATIVE HDR support to games, as opposed to Windows Auto HDR and RTX HDR. Third-party tools can and do add native support for things like these to games.
>>733747292>beta tester releaseNow install the PC version and get to the cut scene where Cloud throws Sephiroth off that bridge , then look at the PS1 version and tell me which is better.
I really don't remember an rpg being worth the hype like this was, EVERYONE was talking about it
>>733742858But FF3 is the worst classic final fantasy and the 3D version is the worst of the bunch
>>733745460They did for FFIX at one point didn't they? I remember they released a "patch" that basically just deleted all the games files
audio is broken on the battle results screenwhat an embarrassment of a companyi am embarrassed to have been a final fantasy fan. this company doesn't deserve any of anyone's money ever again. fuck them.
>>733755536>But FF3 is the worst classic final fantasy
>>733732772Those screenshots all fucking rule.
>>733755737You heard me. FF3 stinks
>>733744115>too poor to afford a DRM-free $5 ROM
>>733755887FF3 is basically a remake of FF1. With vast improvements in every way except characterization. Which the remake added. But the remake messed up other things. So the pixel remaster is the best way to play it.
>>733756282FF3's job system feels like a gimmick because you constantly have to switch your party comp to handle the latest dungeon or boss gimmick. Then that's made worse because they don't want you switching too often so they added retarded limitations on how often you're allowed to do it, which at least the PR version fixed.It lacks the fun simplicity of the FF1 job system and also lacks the depth and complexity of the FF5 job system. It stinks.
>>733756447>FF3's job system feels like a gimmick because you constantly have to switch your party comp to handle the latest dungeon or boss gimmick. By this logic, most mechanics in most FF games are gimmicks. They force you to change something, be it gears or summons or whatever, to deal with new stuff. And often much more time consuming and punishing than FF3.FF3 is actually not that bad except maybe the parts that make you use mini. And it's still nowhere near as hard or annoying as later FF games. I just got done replaying FFX and that game basically makes you do that kind of thing all the time. "Okay, here's a random mob enemy you're going to be fighting 50 times. We'll make it have 2x the HP as the boss of the dungeon and take an annoying system of armor break, power break and silence each time." Which, for the record, is also how a lot of mobs are in FF1.>Then that's made worse because they don't want you switching too often so they added retarded limitations on how often you're allowed to do it, which at least the PR version fixed.The Pixel Remaster version "fixed" it because it was like that in the original. The only game that had this was the 3D Remake. Which is one of the major complains people have with the remake.>It lacks the fun simplicity of the FF1 job systemSo you admit you prefr the FF1 system because it's "simpler." This isn't a good argument.>and also lacks the depth and complexity of the FF5 job system.FF5 is my favorite game in the series. But it's not really that much more complex. You can just have a second menu option for another job. And FF3 also has unique options that FF5 lacks. Like more abilities for the one job you are using. As well as equipping multiple weapons without needing to waste a job slot on it. And a few more things. FF3 would be tied with 5 for me if it wasn't for FF5 having so many other great things on top of the job system.
>>733757102Changing strategy is not the same as being forced to change your entire build. The mini dungeons are by far the biggest example of this, but bosses like Garuda railroad you down certain party comps too. It's stupidly restrictive for a system that's supposed to be about freedom.And this ignores certain jobs just being straight up invalidated by other jobs. By endgame you are almost guaranteed to be using Ninjas and Sages because they are the only viable jobs by that point.>The Pixel Remaster version "fixed" it because it was like that in the originalWrong. The original had Capacity Points to stop you switching too often. It's better than the job sickness from the 3D version, but still needlessly restrictive.>So you admit you prefr the FF1 system because it's "simpler."Yes. There's an appeal to just picking your jobs at the start and committing to them the entire game. Your choice at the start matters throughout your entire playthrough and I enjoy that.>But it's not really that much more complex. You can just have a second menu option for another jobThat combined with the fact that the game never railroads you into certain jobs makes it way more complex. There's a reason no one does FF3 Four Job Fiestas.FF3 stinks
>another shit portWhy can fans decompile and recompile games perfectly for free with no budget, but these AAA companies can't release a single good version of their own game?
>>733747249>Jeet broke the portOf fucking course, why did I expect anything less than this?I'm so fucking sick of companies cheaping out and hiring Jeets.There's a reason India is the shithole it is, and it's because of Indians and companies are hiring those same fuckers with that same mentality to work on their code base, to work on their games, which then get fucked and wonder "Hey maybe it wasn't a good idea to hire someone who got their qualifications at a diploma mill?".Least I have my original Playstation and copy of the game still working fine so I NEVER have to give JeetEnix a single fucking penny.
>>733757574>Changing strategy is not the same as being forced to change your entire build.You have to do it far more in games like FFVI, VII and VIII. And a really annoying process of changing your entire Esper/Materia/Junction setup. In FF3, you just change a class and weapons. If you even need to. Many of the things are just like turning yourself mini or a frog, which you can undo the second you get through the water/hole. And then you're just playing with your regular team. Beyond this, there's only like 2 bosses that force you to change classes. And if you're replaying the game you can skip the Scholar ones.>By endgame you are almost guaranteed to be using Ninjas and Sages because they are the only viable jobs by that point.You can use anyone. It just depends on how much grinding you want to do. Which you also need to grind with Ninja's and Sages. One of the big flaws of the game I will admit is getting the final crystal right before the final area. Which forces this grinding. But this is also why some people will just run Black Belt/Regular mages for the end game. Which is viable.>Yes. There's an appeal to just picking your jobs at the start and committing to them the entire game. Your choice at the start matters throughout your entire playthrough and I enjoy that.But this can also screw your game if you pick the wrong ones and force you to replay the whole thing. Plus, it's not squaring with your argument that FF3 is "too restrictive" when it has far more options in jobs and changing.>That combined with the fact that the game never railroads you into certain jobs makes it way more complex. There's a couple bosses that are easier with certain classes. And certain classes which are way better than the others. You can easily be punished for trying to run a Berserker or Mime or Geomancer, which are overall useless. Which leads to certain classes being by far the optimal ones. Which you claimed was a negative for FF3.
>>733757843>>733747249>>733747176Why are there so many bad ports of PS1 games?
>>733758007Companies giving out the contract to the lowest bidder who 9/10 tends to be Indians. I'm not even meming either, that's literally how it works, they're on such a low wage there compared to Western salaries they can undercut Western studios who traditionally used to handle ports by a large margin. But there is a fundamental reason for that, you're paying for people who you can't trust if their competency is real, if their qualifications are real or if they fraudulently paid for some diploma mill degree in Comp-Sci.
>>733758007PS1 was notoriously bad to code for. Then trying to take that and port it to another system with a frenkienstien of emulation and new code.On top of this, Square was stupid and just threw out all the code for their PS1 games.
>>733758380>PS1 was notoriously bad to code forAre you fucking retarded?
>>733758007Also have to account for the fact that everything is based off of the Eidos port. Which itself was literally a beta build of FF7 they had to spruce up to pretend it's fully refined and complete like the PS1 version, and has had knock on consequences ever since the initial release in '98. So not only has Square-Enix piled retards on top of retards to keep porting this over and over and over who clearly aren't caring much for what they're doing, but they're using a tainted source they didn't even make themselves in the first place.
Do why would I play this over emulating the original PS2 version?
>>733759608Only reason to is if you want to use a mod.
>>733758380>PS1 was notoriously bad to code forSo we're just making stuff up now huh
>>733759608>PS2 version
>>733719459are the mods for the original mid port worth it at all? I've basically only ever played the PS1 release, be it on real hardware or on an emulator
>>733722046yeah it's an all time classic I think.
>>733722046It is a really beloved game, so yes
>>733744115>>733755951erm ASCHTUALLY they're ISOs split into the .bin and .cue
>>733760142There's some challenge content like New Threat, relocalization efforts if you wanted a cleaner version of the game's script, upscales or rearrangements, full 60 FPS and dynamic shadows stuff. But honestly, I think most of it is crap besides the challenge and framerate stuff.
who cares about your programmer tranny reddit news
>>733723917>What the is Square Enix's problem?
>>733760043Not my only typo. I'm tired and maybe drunk
>>733760142The Reunion mod adds a new translation which improves everything (except Cait Sith). And it replaces the regular models with the battle models, which match the environments a little better in my opinion. But their movement is kinda silly at times since it's matching the chibi models. But overall I think Reunion improves the game, if only for the better translation in the flashback scenes where 75% of the games exposition is dumped.
>>733757665That's... actually a really good question.
>>733760391Which one's the most recent one? 2013 seems more advanced than regular.
>>733757665>>733760658The answer is money. It's always money. They don't want to hire people to break down old games they lack the source codes to, they rarely want to hire fans that understand the games thoroughly (Tomb Raider is an exception to the rule), and they don't want to invest thousands, much less tens to hundreds of thousands, in having actual dev teams work to properly fix up and/or remaster their projects in any worthwhile capacity for what is supposed to amount to quick cashgrabs.Say what you will about re-releases, remasters and collections in general, I can at least appreciate the good ones, not shit like this.
>>733732772those are screenshots
>>733757665The original creators don't care about the games as much as the fans. This is especially true when it comes to the FF developers, who want to move onto new projects. They even had to trick Nomura and Kitase to start doing FF7 remake, after they said multiple times in interviews they didn't want to.
>>733722046>>733760616How it is that every single mod I see of this game make the game look uglier than it original was?
>>733720048o shit that's pretty sick
>>733761189The top one is bad fanart. Nothing in the second one is changed but the character models. And I know it clashes with your nostalgia goggles. But most modern players would say it looks better than the blocky chibi models.
>>733719459So what should I play now? I bought the steam pc version before this expecting this new one to be like the switch version (which I was told was the best with QoL) but it seems very borked.
>>733760616I wouldn't mind an updated translation but I feel like using the battle models for the overworld is silly, it's supposed to be mimicking the old style of the smaller overworld sprites with the larger combat sprites that all the classic FF games had (except 6, which had matching overworld and combat sprites)
I just checked Steam and now I have 2 Final Fantasy 7's? Which one do i play?inb4 "you need a SE account" I don't care, I already have one.
>>733761796The developers have said they actually wanted to have the bigger sprites for the whole game. This is why some of the FMVs have the more detailed looking sprites but then others have the Chibi. They had multiple different teams working super fast and not knowing what the other teams were doing. And you can see in the credits there's different people working on the overworld models and the battle models.If they were meaning to imitate the sprite look like you said, they would have also done it in battle. But they did different models in battle. They obviously were able to have the same models in and out of battle for FF8 and every following game. So it stands to reason they would have done it for FF7 as well. But they probably worried about some lag issues on the overworld. While the battle team ran into lag with some summons and effects, but just ignored it.
>>733746939Why don't any new players actually do this? The options menu is my first stop when I launch any game for the first time regardless of how old it is.
>>733761869The one labeled 'Final Fantasy VII (2013)' is the PC version of the original game. I don't know about another one except the remake.
>>733762263Did you just want to feel included in the conversation?
>>7337618692013 is the old port that required the Square-Enix account, and generally was what everyone modded. The one without 2013 is the new port that's currently broken as fuck on Steam as far as I know, like double speed battles that royally screw shit up.
>>733760705It's supposed to be the top one but apparently it doesn't work well and that it's all buggy.
>>733762302>answer someones question>do you feel included!?It's little wonder why people don't help others on 4chan...
>>733719459>those graphicslmao
>>733762643These cheats though>man i hate playing this fucking gameI just never got it.
>>733719459No achievements, no buy
>>733757843Because boomers hate their children, a 60 years old don't want to see a competent 20 years old white chad
>>733757665True but I fucking wish someone did that with Lost Odyssey and other games trapped in ps360
>>733731212That's the schizo that thinks there are parallel worlds inside of Final Fantasy games. He think that Versus XIII is hidden inside of XIII (or maybe XV? I can't remember), and he also has some schizo theory about a secret game being hidden inside VIII as well. I guess he's developing another theory about VII having the timelines that VIIR does the whole time. I can't tell if he's a legit schizo or just a normal person having fun larping as a schizo, but his posts are entertaining nonetheless, and he's always seemed harmless.
Anything I need to do to enhance or tidy up running FF7 on an emulator? Is duckstation the way to go?
>>733746598FFIX. BOFIV is one of my favorite JRPGs and in my opinion the best in the series but it is a slog towards the middle of the game.
>>733746883The Steam version uses the PC version which has this problem. Unironically just emulate the PSX ISO and add some shaders. My personal go to are the 4k HDR shaders on Retroarch, they emulate CRT displays so well that I haven’t used my actual equipment in awhile.
>>733747550Please listen to this poster, all of this is true.
>>733738517genuinely what the fuck happened, why can't companies just make games anymore?
>>733764162Games got bigger, higher fidelity, bloated, and thus more expensive and take longer to build.
>>733722046Not really.I beat it for the first time last year on OG hardware (30 year old zoomer), and while it wasn't bad, it was very underwhelming; so dry and boring that it took me almost two months to finish even when I didn't do much side content. Just a drag.>everything is so damn slow-paced from animations to transitions to loading to constant cutscenes and monologues>combat is braindead autopilot button mashing. Regular enemies are just braindead cannon fodder for grinding that pose zero threat whatsoever. Even bosses are a complete joke, and you will only ever fail to poorly telegraphed gotcha trollshit>enemy designs are complete nonsense, like they're pulled straight from the digimon reject pile and don't fit the environment at all>camera angles in combat are obnoxious and constantly obscure the fight>targeting enemies and allies in fights is very finicky. Having to actually point at 3D models instead of the list of names is baffling>magic spells are samey and don't really fill a niche or usecase, with few meaningful tradeoffs>no descriptions for any spells or items while in combat>no symbols for status elements and no way to view them>translation is extremely shoddy, full of grammar/spelling errors and nonsensical engrish>dialogue boxes look amateurish, appearing all over and blocking parts of the screen and character names only appearing their first line; when new, unnamed characters speak, no name is shown, and the dialogue box appears the same as if the previous character is speaking>d-pad digital movement feels awful to navigate isometric maps; you will frequently bang into walls and go back the way you came on screen transition>prerendered backgrounds are unclear and unintuitive regarding what areas you can traverse or interact with>constantly have to go into towns and talk to every Tom, Dick, and Harry to advance the plot>99% of the objects in the world can't be interacted with, while a few arbitrarily can and give zero indication
>>733764273>making games worse is literally taking up more time and money than if they just made games normally again.
>>733760616>And it replaces the regular models with the battle modelsThat's fucking horrible.Any way to change that? I just want the better translation
>>733722046It is really funny that /v/ cries incessantly about modern games and calls everything shit but yet will suck off some shitty braindead, poorly paced, bloated, cinematic piece of trash like FF7 with the only redeeming qualities being its characters and OST, just because it's considered some old untouchable boomer classic despite aging like milk left out in the sun and its appeal relying almost entirely on the technological spectacle at its time of release. DOS2 is like 500x the game FF7 is and is so much better in every imaginable way and just runs laps around FF7. Combat, encounter design, enemy design, boss design, challenge, replayability, build variety, RPG mechanics, pacing, environments, quest design, exploration, sense of adventure, world design, artstyle, player choice and agency, interactivity, reactivity, writing, characters, etc. are just all better many times over in DOS2. Probably the only aspect of FF7 that is better is OST.
>>733764162Final Fantasy VII and VIII and X were made by one team. While IX and XI were made by two other teams. It is stupid that it takes one team 7-9 years to make a game now. While FF8 and 10 took about 3. But that's because most of the good people left. Other teams are given smaller budgets and only a year and make better games (Trials of Mana remake for example). Limitations are often good. Final Fantasy games have endless budgets and keep delaying forever.
>>733764512You can read the readme and it tells you how to turn off each individual function of the mod.
>>733764552>DOS2The fuck is that? Disk Operating System 2?
>>733764802divinity original sin 2, just another larian dick sucker
>>733763618>Lost Odysseyi would love a steam port of this gameshit at this point i'd even take a squareenix-tier port
>>733765095I think someone recomp'd Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey likely wouldn't be too far behind.
>Started playing games without Steam>Actually enjoying games a lot more nowMaybe I'm autistic but I like going into my organized folders and clicking an EXE and having it just launch. I'm playing more games than I have in years.Not just GOG games but shit like Starsector too.
>>733764663So it's possible?Based
>>733719459The site's being hammered like crazy at the moment and it won't load on my browser now. I was just glad i bought the game an hour ago when it was still functioning.
>sound is broken>sound effects don't get interrupted, therefore new sound effects fail to play>no one noticed this the entire dev cycleFascinating.
>>733766278The crazy part is that since it's based off of prior port shit, they would've had to hear it as it was before and then start doing any tweaks and additions off of the prior versions for this. Somehow someone thought this was better than when they initially got it. Or, at this point another viable option is that they literally just did not sound test this port worth a damn.
>>733753243Dude, you don't have to be so brutally honest. Even if you're right.
>>733766278This is apparently deliberate to stop blowing out soundsystems.
>>733766278you need to set your irq and dma values for your midi drivers
>>733733951checked
>>733762780Anon didn't even answer the fucking question, he just came in with "urrrrhhhh I dunno... weemake?" like brother, that is not what I'm talking about at all. Pipe down or answer accurately, I have no respect for "me dunno" replies, get fucked.
>>733761869play the one that says (2013)use the 7th heaven mod manager if you want some mods
>Steam forums is just 2 retards fightingMany such cases.
This is worse than the Grand Theft Auto: The Trilogy – The Definitive Edition, by the way.
game won't even recognize my regular xbox one controller lol, what a fiasco
??? whats the difference ?
>>733768968see >>733762362
>>733767963Sounds like 7R threads
>>733769229They also tacked on like 2 extra gigabytes on the game too, what could they have done or added to warrant such a fucking thing?
>>733719459Yeah I'm trying the new release on steam right now.What the fuck is this font and why does it still need a fucking launcher
>>733769384So basically they now have the game localized for different languages. But to modify text in this game requires having the field data for each room, space, area, etc being individually modified and updated. And to have those languages working means loading those new field versions with the new text.So they duplicated all the game's map data several times over just to fit all the different localized texts in there.
>>733760264I started compressing mine into chd files.Much easier to compress
>>733769495theres a bit more then that but ultimately its for the ultra casual to speed the game along and have the game play itself. also I tried starting the game and the opening cutscene simply locked up and I was forced to bring up task manager and close it revealing that they used a 32-Bit client, fucking square cant even do the bare minimum.
>>733765959NTA but I played reunion a couple years ago and turned off every feature other than the translation so it's possible.
>>733769495jeet coding is out of control
>>733719459>Not FFT no thanks bro
>>733723917>That's the new Steam version. Who's Fine, Co., Ltd.?It has mostly negative right now but they're fixing it. Check their Steam forums there's a stickied post. They're trying to fix it.
>>733725643No no no no. You CAN change the battle speed if you want to make the fights quicker, it's optional. The speed of the game got fucked up on release and everything is moving faster but they fixed it.
>>733728104>you don't know who i am? i'm the anon that sued FROM SOFTWARE and BANDAI NAMCO GAMES over Elden Ring. That's not relevant to this topic however.
>>733744779I'm so fucking made the troons scared off the cute anime GOG mascot.
>>733745527>So do I emulate or play this version?Just play the newer version the devs are on the clock right now fixing it.
>>733747249>>733747636>>733757843It's just a fucking moderator. Has nothing to do with the actual devs
>>733770001>theres a bit more then that but ultimately its for the ultra casual to speed the gameYou know what? Hot take. I don't find this an issue. The game was never known to be challenging. There, I said it. "W-well then why add this shit then?" Old games are just slow anon.
>>733719459What's the difference between the new Steam version and the older one?
>>733770954Man thank you so much. That's exactly what I will do. Now I only need the motivation to actually do it
>>733772016>They're trying to fix it.That's what jeets always say
>>733772459Enough of your fucking racism dumbfuck
>>733772484good morning sir
>>733772521Bloody bitch bastard
>>733772294Ask another 20 times in this thread
>>733772521Good morning
RE 1-3 Classic on GOG do not run natively on Deck
>>733772676What do you mean?
Does anyone know how to download FF7 with all the mods without having to visit 10 different forum guides?
Did they release a changelog and finally patch that one bug so prevalent that it's listed on the store page because they are too fucking lazy to patch their own fucking game?
>>733773098anon, I...
>>733772676obviously, they only have windows executables
>>733760616Other than the upscaled background and Tifa stuck on that pose, I don't see the problem.
>>733719459Thanks for the free game
>>733729173new threat is pretty good. I dont care about the graphic mods, i still like how the original models look
>>733719690>modsThat battle models outside combat mod looks like ass, and doesn't have the same feel as blocky toons.
>>733722046This would look better if they added character lights to make them pop out more, right now they blend into background
>>733719459>no shitty fucking Square Enix account required anymore!But instead you get shitty bilinear filtering making everything blurry and a version that (atp) you can't fix with mods!Enjoy!
>>733719459Game for children, no point replaying as an adult. With mods and story overhaul maybe.
>>733729173>>733773838Spoken like true retards, both of you, completely unaware that there's more than just graphical mods.Kill yourselves, wastes of oxygen.
>>733747550This.The biggest tragedy of this era of gaming is how different they felt because of a seemingly inconsequential thing as scanlines. 3D models and assets were made with this in mind, despite other technical limitations that made them look how they did.It's not just an aesthetic nitpicking.
>>733773983>3D models made with this in mindAbsolutely not, deranged revisionism from people who weren't there.
>>733769442>why does it still need a fucking launcherBecause Squeenix keeps hiring the laziest companies to work on their games' ports sometimes.These fucks couldn't just do a normal and seamless in-game menu for the options and the boosts.
>>733773981What mods are there then?
>>733757102Yeah. They're gimmicks. Materia is a gimmick. Junction is a gimmick.No idea how this word is always loaded with a negative conotation.
>>733747550>Sephiroth's wide open mouth like he's always about to eat a hotdog.
>>733757102Job system sucks, it's like a shit stain in the whole franchise.
>>733774024They totally were. Pre-rendered backgrounds like the Sector 7 plate were made via 3D modelling, even if the final version is a "flat" background.t. did that in the 90s even before Pixar revolutionzed stuff with new techniques
>>733774143It's not in the PS1 version. Possibly because of an oversight.The retarded mouths were something the PC version had and they kept it for the 2013 re-release for whatever reason.A classic example of a bug that's a feature.
>>733774201You worded it as the real-time 3D models, but even then the backgrounds weren't designed around any CRT aspect. In fact, they're quite ass to see on real hardware hence the pointers.
>>733747292Quantitatively wrong. The PC port was built from an unfinished build of FFVII with a shitton of bugs still in the game. The people who ported it (who weren't Square btw) said they had to reconstruct sections for the game by literally having the PS1 version running next to them. Even then, they didn't get it 100% because it still had issues like the open mouth textures and incorrect lighting.Now stfu and kys
>>733757102>except maybe the parts that make you use miniAnd even those are over quickly, only one has a boss and for the first, you're given a free fire rod (which, in 3D, multiple people can be used if not equipped to a single person), giving free casts of Fire.>The Pixel Remaster version "fixed" it because it was like that in the original. The only game that had this was the 3D Remake. Wrong. The Famicom version had Capacity Points and you could be locked out of switching if you didn't have enough. The same formulas were repurposed for the remake's job adjustment system.
>>733774514is all that shit fixed these days with mods?
>>733763716this is either the same basket case that tried suing fromsoft for the same theory of a hidden game only japanese people could access or someone larping as him. either way I wouldn't call that harmless even if he got laughed out of court.
>>733722046It's not my favorite Final Fantasy game( probably more in the mid upper tier) but it's a damn good game.
>>733764291 kys
>people hating on ninostyle spriteswhy
>>733775441Some of them are, like the open mouths. Other things are sort of "covered up". For example, the downgraded lighting in the PC port isn't noticed by many people because they usually use model replacements. Other things like the discrepancy in the FPS for menus and whatnot, I think so?
>>733719459Bought it on GOG just because I want to support them. It's gonna take time before they port all the mods to this version but it's nice to have it ready.
>>733777585>ninostyle>sprites
>>733778145Only way to make the PC version look different. Otherwise duckstation is the only choice. I did like the Kaldarasha models though..
>>733719690The only FFVII mod I need is a QoL party and materia preset function because good fucking lord... micromanaging that shit just makes you never wanting to change up your characters...
>>733778193>Look decentFixed
>>733734089My fave thing about FFIII DS is that they rebalanced the jobs so that you just don't do 2 ninjas and 2 sages at the end because that'a fucking boring.
>>733774143>>733774514Why do they treat their most significant title this way? you'd think this would have been handled a lot better, you'd think that without the source code they'd have at least hired a small team to reverse engineer the game engine and rebuild it to make it hardware independent allowing SE to port it to any platform and maintain it for future customers.Even looking at Steamspy estimates are 1-2 mil units sold, but then there's consoles, this version of FF7, millions of units sold, sure at low price of less than $10, but 10s of millions of dollars in profits from just the re-release, could they not spend a few hundred thousand even doing the bare minimum overhauling the engine? Square Enix are probably losing out on more potential income by not remastering the game, as well as losing out on mindshare by not having an easily accessible and smooth running version of the original made available.I am just incapable of understanding this company, they are willing to spend 10s of millions of that first soldier spinoff that lost money but can't spare a fraction of that to fix the game that started it all.
>>733753243You sound like a fucking faggot
>>733739010>SQUARE SUDDENLY hired a gorillion brown people in 2002 that slowes down production of FF12 and 13.Yeah, it wasn't the fault of a shitty movie...
What do you call the type of remakes where it's similar story and characters but it's a vastly different setting? I always love that type of stuff. Like a remix type remake.
>>733763559It has achievements
>>733763559FFVII's PC ports have had achievements since 2013, retard. Even then, who gives a fuck?
>>733747176You do realize the original versions weren't pixelated at all, right? Yeah it's pure - and should always be an option, but the pixelated look would have been criticised back then as well.You do realize plenty of those old consoles DID have their own built in bilinear filters as well, right? That's why the pixels aren't misaligned on your screen. Tons of games had different resolutions depending on what screen, menu or situation was going on. These jeets just did a shit job - again.
>>733747747Is there a mod for the original yamaha soundtrack? All I see is orchestrated and remixed.
>>733779305I suppose that's where "reimagining" comes in, but the words are really just arbitrary I think.
>>733778483They operate with a concept of "good enough". Normies see FFVII with old graphics, and assume it's just "the original" and those who actually played it back then are a relatively small number now. Sure they could appease them, but the cost to profit ratio probably isn't high enough. They'd assume those who care are just emulating.
>>733781229There is one on 7th Heaven Mod Manager. I tried it last month.
>>733769442The real question is if they "remastered" the polygons and made everything, including the font, horrifically ugly like the FF6 remaster.
>>733774149No.
>>733782049Dude they haven't touched the polygons I many release, however yes - they did make the font uglier. It's just the same version that's on PSN.
>>733782567>In any release Fixed
>>733782567Yeah, I think at this point we just need a way to remove the smoothing filter from the game and it'll be more or less perfect. I'm pretty chuffed honestly.
>>733719459Take with a grain of salt, but someone was saying the 2026 release is just emulation and not a native PC version like the 2013 release. If that's the case, I'll just emulate it with my own setup and skip buying a fake PC version.
>>733769442It's the same font but there's a smoothing filter applied to the whole game, and the pixelated font gets smoothed out as well. It's not like FFVIII where they added a high definition font to everything.
>>733725458>small censorshipNo such thing. Any censorship at all changes it into an entirely new work.
>>733768968>>733769229>>733762362They fixed the battle speed on launch day. Still silly it released in that state, but just saying.
>>733753243You don't get the Celestial Weapons and shit for the final boss, you get them for the superbosses and whatnot.
>>733776136>or someone larping as himHe's been going for much longer than Elden Ring has been around.
