Is there any point in getting anything more than a 27" 1440p 180hz monitor for $300? This seems like the sweet spot and there is no meme oled burn in
Too poor to afford the 4K?
oled burn in hasn't been a thing in years
>>7337475184k and 60Hz don't @ me
>>733747518I personally went with a 1440p 165hz monitor. I see no reason to go for 4k
>>7337475184k 160hz ips panels are not really that expensive anymore, and if a game runs well for you at 1440p it'll run well for you at upscaled 4k as well, which is just better than any 1440p. OLED is very expensive still though
>>733747929Too poor to afford the graphics card that can do anything with it.
>>733747987>they fell for ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbEgQrigiLc
No point going 4k if you aren't buying some fuck huge monitor
>>733747518>the sweet spot
>>733748304Why compare regular 1440p to upscaled 4k? 1440p can use upscaling too. It performs a lot better and looks pretty much the same.
>>733748706if you're using upscaling at 1440p that means you have a 1080p capable GPU, in which case yes you should go for a 1440p screenbut if you have a GPU capable of pushing good frames natively at 1440p then that's a GPU that can push the same frames of upscaled 4k which is better so it's better to go for a 4k screen
>>733748304I tried 4k but performance at 4k was still around 10-20% lower even with the same render resolution. The upscaling algorithm is heavier when upscaling to 4k. You are also at the mercy of shitty devs. Some games like HD2 don't have DLSS and some games like MHW runs like shit even rendering at 480p or 720p.
>>733747987>>733747518>>733747929Anything above 1080p 60hz is a waste.
>>733749180nobody asked rajeesh
>>733749148>I tried 4k but performance at 4k was still around 10-20% lower even with the same render resolution.really? from my testing 4k dlss balanced runs about as well as native 1440p, with 4k dlss performance running slighlty better
>>733747518Unless it has that new pulsar tech, it's not worth getting.
>>733747518No. If you are going for 4K then you could go for a bigger one but you're not so that monitor is all you really need.
>finally want a bigger 16:10 monitor>dell stopped producing a 1600p monitor a year ago
>>733747518Using a 48" C4 OLED set for a monitor, but I have a big desk (4U).
1440p 140+hrz OLED sweet spot
>>733747518I need 34" 5k2k WUHD 240Hz/480Hz no OLED slop
>>733751853Sounds like you have an enormous amount of cocks you'll need to be suckin'.
the dudes who swear they can see the diffrence between 200hrz and 500hrz are like the audiophile fags that claim they can hear the same frequencies a dog could hear
>>733747518240fps 1440p seems about right. Your mostly playing 7th and 8th gen games. Most of the blur in videogames actually comes from the camera movement so fps is way more important.
>>733748553ah yes, a video of a monitor running at full brightness with none of the basic and easy precautions is totally representative of typical user experience
>>733752025there is a difference but most of it is from you watching static elements like when you're camping in counter strike or other boring slow garbage500 doesn't really improve on clarity from your own mouse movements
>>733752025https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qjSGEOEaXohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhLzso8MMMwEvery test shows there is a difference. Even if you cannot feel it it is affecting you.
>>733752025If you can't, there's something wrong with you>going from 30 fps to 60 fps: life changing>going from 60 fps to 120 fps: massive >going from 120 fps to 240 fps: pretty big>going from 240 fps to 480 fps: noticeable
>>733752103Hz and FPS aren't exactly the same thing. Hertz are how often the screen refreshes per second while FPS is how many images the GPU is putting out every second. Ideally you want the screen's refresh rate to either be exactly the same as the FPS or a multiple of it so the refresh rate divides equally by the frame rate. Since you are targeting 60 or 30fps generally this means a refresh rate of 60, 120, 180 or 240Hz are ideal (more than that and you will never ever have a game running that fast so it's just a waste to spend the extra money).
>>733747518>and there is no meme oled burn inget a Mini LED then?
>>733752451is mini led actually good? oled colors without the burn in sounds too good to be true. whats the down sides?
>>733752025My brother said he could feel he diffrence between 60 and 140. >He didn't have it set to 140 Funny how our own minds trick us
>>733752548Its not as good. Thats the downside lol
>>733752548>oled colorslmaominiled is just ips/va with tiny backlights instead of a single big oneit's not going to look considerably better, especially not oled tier
If your monitor costs less than $1000 lower your tone when replying to me
>>733752789s-sorry anon-sama...
Bright room that normies inhabit go mini ledDark room for neet chuds go OLED
>>733752789didn't want 2160p 240hz oled, i don't sit close enough to the screen for it to matterwhen there's a 2160p 32:9 ultrawide 500hz oled with strobing i'll upgrade
>>733752887black curtains and an expandable screwless curtain mount cost less than thirty bucks combined
>>733753036>black curtainsBlackout curtains are what you want.
>>733747518My opinion. Absolutely not. 4k performance requirements are insane, 1080p looks bad, 120-180 is about as good as humans can see without going into the insane performance requirements of +200.
>>733747518i like my 34" 1440pUW 144hz IPS monitor
1440p is a meme because you need to use 1.25 scaling on 27".4K is perfect with 2x scaling on 32" or even 27".
>>7337536641x scaling on 1440 27" is fine your eyes are bad
>>733753664>4KI love having to buy TWO graphics card to run fucking anything
>>733752789I have no problems blowing $1000 on a monitor if it was good and lasted. OLEDs don't last.
>>733753853They last long enough
>>733752548MiniLED is just an array of backlight zones. Even if you have a decent model with 1000+ zones they're still big enough that there's a ton of haloing in dark scenes.And they still don't fix the issues that IPS and VAs have. All VA panels for example have terrible ghosting and the same VRR flicker issue as OLEDs. IPS is better in that regard but they still can't match the colour gamut, contrast and response times of OLEDs. The only realistic usecase of miniLED IPS displays is if you want giganigga brightness that OLEDs simply cannot reproduce. Burn-in is a meme that doesn't happen during normal usage.
>>733753834Niggie I've been running 4K since my 2080Ti just turn some settings down
>>733753972>just turn some settings down>lower the graphics to ruin the games visuals How about no
>>733753992Looks better than blurry 1080slop
>>733753751I can see everything with perfect sharpness at 1x, it just isn't very comfortable when everything is so fucking tiny. The ideal effective PPI for a 27" display coincides with around 115% scaling at 1440p so you're objectively wrong btw. Can't argue with math, bitch.
>>7337540932k looks better than you playing on extra low on all settings
Personally I really like OLED
>>733753834Just use DLSS/FSR, retard. 4K DLSS Q runs at about the same framerate as native 1440p because internally it's just 1440p.
>>733748553It's theoretically possible to get dead pixels on any kinda panel too that doesn't mean it's realisticHe's literally putting it under the worst conditions imaginable just to prove that it isn't a big deal
>>733754256>DownscalingJust say you're a poorfag and move on.
>>733749180>Anything above 360p 25hz is a waste.
>>733754230lmao you rocking a 2050 or Smith?
>>733753905I have the shitty first gen qd oled and after four years of use I have no burn in. I didn't do any gay rituals like avoiding static images, I used it the same way I've used any other monitor.
>>733753967it's dishonest to bring up ghosting issues without mentioning that mini-LED is way brighter than OLED
>>733754102It's not comfortable for you because your eyes are bad. 27" 1440p 27" is only 109 PPI. Retina displays are much sharper than this. I use 1440p 27" 1x scaling and 4k 27" 1.5x scaling with zero discomfort. Put on some glasses or go get eye surgery.
>>73375390530 hours a week for two yearsDOA
>>733753905you clowns brag about 3000 hours like its a big achievement. thats a year of 8 hours per day lmao. normal people use their monitors for 8-10 years
>>733754285>says the nigger whose povertybox cannot handle 4K displaykek
>>733754371>realistic usecase of miniLED IPS displays is if you want giganigga brightness that OLEDs simply cannot reproduceAre you mentally retarded?
>>733747518You don't need anything higher than 60Hz. Beyond that is a meme for "competitive" multiplayer slop which doesn't matter.
>>733754389No, it's uncomfortable because it's objectively the wrong pixel density at normal viewing distance. You are a retarded brownoid who's gluing his face to the display if you find it comfortable. Or you never read any text because you're a braindead monkey who can't read.
>>733754308Enjoy playing on your low settings
>>733752254It is realistic for someone who doesn't want to baby their monitor. Do you really think people don't work for 8 hours a day or want their work interrupted with pixel refresh bullshit? He still runs normal pixel refresh at the end of the day when he is not actively using the monitor.
>>733754614Not even the best graphics card can run max setttings 4k but enjoy being a sheep having to buy 2x just to run games that looks worse than the 2007 era poorfag.
>>733754607I've used a 1440p 165hz IPS for almost 10 years now but I really can't say for sure if I would've rather had multiple better monitors in that timeframe instead. I have no idea whatsoever if IPS 1440p monitors have improved substantially but I really doubt they have.
The way some people fear burn in is pretty funny
>>733754762You're a boomer with bad eyes. Go get glasses and try again. 109 PPI is not that high. I'm telling you for your own good your eyes are bad.
>>733748553>have to intentionally burn it in for 5000 hours of usage and it will barely be visible on certain all grey apps and only if you have them fullscreenit's a nothingburger.
>>733754607that's 3000 hours of doing the same thing. You probably aren't going to be doing anything for 3000 hours in a year.
>>733747518>Crimson DesertJust go full K-slop and get an S90D
AAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIII DON'T MAKE ME RUN THE PIXEL REFRESH!
If you bought anything above 1080p 60hz for games you got scammed.
>>733747518wait a few years for g-sync pulsar monitors to reach the same pricepointor don't, $300 over a few years isn't a lot, but i don't like to upgrade monitors very often
>>733754102you are getting old bro...
>>733755276THIS NIGGA ASKING GROK FOR INFO AHAHAHAHABAHBAHAHAHAHAHoly shit zoomers are so pathetic.
>>733755385AI is gay but i'm going to side with him over the eyelet who thinks you need scaling to use 1440p 27".
>queue for competitive game>mandatory pixel refresh>get kicked for being afkNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>733755515Personally I use 4k for my mini PC with 150% UI scaling just cus I don't like straining my eyes to look at small text on my 120" screen. Its not so much that the text is small and unreadable but that larger text just looks more rounded and less aliased. Especially in modern games where all text is just a text file and font instead of hardset text like in older games.
>>733755532>queue for competitive game
>>733755532Some of them do the thing where they just automatically do a pixel refresh after being turned off when 4 cumulative hours of usage have passed, my TV does that so I don't know why all monitors don't.
>>733748553>posts video that debunks himis this the power of vpol?
>>733752618>>733752650https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRGwzbnuLJALooks pretty good to me? If they even comparable that's a win for miniled because of the price difference.
>>733756047Yea they both look good on my TN 1080p panel whats the big deal. Ill stck with my monitor
>>733752025The human eye can see 39,620 HzSorry that yours can't
>>733755532Just stop playing multiplayer faggot shit, problem solved???
>>733756047MiniLED has its own weird problems with ghosting and shit because they often use VA panels. If companies had invested in it like they do OLED we'd have some really nice monitors but they don't, unfortunately, it's mainly cheapshit no-name chink garbage that isn't dependable at all.
>>733756234Your eyes might be able to see it but there's no way your computer is actually running that fast, and if the computer itself isn't putting out 40k FPS then neither is the screen really.
i have a 4k 27'' 240hz oled monitor and i hate it it's too big and the refreshing pixels is annoying the colors are nice though
>>733756576>the refreshing pixels is annoyingSounds like it has a terrible response time.
>>733756639pixel cleaning*it asks every 8 hours and takes 5 minutes
>>733756673Oh right. Something to do with combatting burn in I guess?
>>733756730probably but as far as i know it's just a meme
>>733756762It sounds like something you can probably turn off in the monitor's settings somewhere (like using the buttons actually on the monitor itself) if you don't mind taking the burn in risk.
>>733756404this. and if you must, just say no to the pixel cleaning and do it later. fucking retards
>recently upgraded from a 1060 to a 5060ti 16gb>can barely run modern UE5 slop on ultra at native 60fps and 1080p resolution (if you turn on path tracing you'll need framegen and upscaling)>buy a 1440p monitor>have to still play at 1080p resolution regardless, because the 5060ti can't handle modern games above said resolutionIf you are a poorfag who can't buy a 70 or 80 card, don't go upgrading your native res or you'll regret it.
>>733756762>To turn off pixel cleaning on your LG OLED TV, you can follow these steps:>Go to the Settings menu on your remote control.>Navigate to All Settings.>Select General.>Choose OLED Care.>Click on OLED Panel Care.>Select Pixel Cleaning and then choose Turn Off. So says the bot.
>>733756987there is no reason to play native res anymore when dlss is so good
>>733756576>27 inches>too bigAre you a gnome?
>>733755023good thing I don't use any greyish apps in fullscreen...
>>733757126So, you're telling me to upscale 720p to 1440p?It will look like shit.
>>733757181What is it?
>>733757224720p is the most aggressive setting. put it on quality mode and it is literally free performance with no image quality degradation. go lower at your own risk if you want more performance
Is getting a high refresh rate monitor (anything above 60) useful even if you don't really play much on it? I have 2 32" FHD TVs that I've been using for more than a decade and I'm looking into upgrading at least one of them.I imagine that anything above 60Hz is gonna feel "smoother" but I was also thinking that a pixel count bump would be nice to make things crispier. Not thinking of having both since my gpu won't be able to use it and it's too expensive for me.
>>733757429If the frame rate goes above the refresh rate then you will get tearing and it's easy to go above 60. This means you will need to run v-sync to lock the frame rate to the refresh rate on a 60Hz monitor and v-sync has a small performance hit. To be on the safe side then 120Hz would be better I think if you are dead set on going as low as you can.
>>733757429Are you looking for 1440p 60hz or something? You can't even really find those anymore. Monitors are so cheap you can't even buy 60hz or 1080 anymore if your budget is more than $200. And yes it's a big difference.
Waiting for the MPG 271KRAW16
>>733757181Eh it's still expensive enough I'd rather just buy the cheapest 1440p OLEDs instead. Burn-in is less of a problem than chink QC
I went 3440x1440p 144hz 34". No regrets and there was always an UW fix for every game I have ever pirated or bought both old and new.
>buying an oled when TCL minileds existlol, lmao
>>733757987Wrong and when I do buy something it won't be budget trash
>>733757657That does make sense, yea. The ones I'm looking at are all above 120Hz so i think I would be fine in that regard.>>733757707I was looking at a 1440p 165Hz and a 4K 60Hz. Stuff is fairly expensive here and I'm in a hell of my own design with not really wanting to get smaller monitors
>>733758093if you do any sort of gaming at all then go with 1440p 165hz. the responsiveness is just on another level.
>>733757968Compatibility is the only reason I don't go straight for UW.
>>733758093Just remember that it is best to get one with a refresh rate that is a multiple of 60.
>>733747518Does anyone here have Dell U2725QE? 4k 120hz mini ledI'm planning to buy it for both work n gaming
>>733758210>>733758459Will keep it in mind, anons. Thanks for the help
>>733752254people actually run their monitors on full brightness?
>>733758689>Dell U2725QEI was doing research on this monitor a few weeks back and I kept finding a bunch of people with issues regarding coil whine and/or very bad backlight bleeding.
>>733758689get a chink miniled monitor like M27P6 for half the price. amazon has generous return policy if you are scared of qc issues
>>733758830Yeah, normalfags who use them in bright rooms
>>733747518what is this 2010? You get a 27 inch 4K
>>73374751827" is way way way too tiny. I have a 48" 4K 138Hz OLED monitor that I sit about 3 feet from. I can't imagine anything smaller. For 1440p 27" you'd have to sit so fucking close and if it ain't OLED you're going to melt your fucking retinas. I did 32" 1440p for a while. Those were dark times. I'm all about max-comf and objectively optimal viewing distance by resolution/screen size.
>bro get a 4kI'm not that dumb or that brown
>>733759187I sit an arms length away which is what normal people do. You're like a child sitting too close to the TV.
>>733758859>>733758920Seems like trouble, I'll look for alternatives then Danke anons
>watching anime upscaled using NVIDIA RTX Video Super Resolution™ and converted into HDR using NVIDIA RTX HDR™wtf I love AI now?
1080p 100hz with vrr is the patrician choice
>>733759187id argue 27 inch is too big. 26 would be good but they dont make that
Was gonna get 2
>>733759654Don't at me 4k bros. I ain doin it
>>733759654>>733759691i grabbed the rog 4k and it's really nice
No Pulsar, no buy. Eat my shit with your Oleds, HDRs and other cancers. Fucking tired of all modern screens looking like absolute shit in motion.>bro, just run the games at 500hz with BFI lmaoShut the fuck up.
>>733754683i'm not against OLED, my phone is OLED. miniLED just does HDR better, again you're being dishonest instead of being straightforward. you don't seem sincere at all and it's trivial to sniff out.
>>733761840pulsar is just BFI but with a fancy name
>>733761961Technically it is, but does it a bit differently and with better results. And when BFI does work with VRR, there's flickering.
>>733762117also at half contrast. bfi is ass
>>733747518bait thread made by a retarded niggerfaggot
>>733759636get a grip, 27" is the sweet spot for gaming and productivity. smaller just cramps your style. ain't nobody got time for squinting.
>>733752406this is cope made by retards who fell for the high fps meme
