Was it kino?
>>733747820extremely
>>733747820It was kino enough to keep Shadow alive instead of dying like intended while also getting a movie dedicated to it years later. Contrarians will say otherwise but the objective facts say yes, it was indeed kino.
I personally liked Sonic Adventure's gameplay better.
>>733747820SA1 is a lot better
>>733748592>>733748563I will qualify the sa1 nerdsgamma was better than mech tails and eggman, but amy and big were 0/10
>>733747820https://youtu.be/nhkb85jeOMkIf this isn't kino, I don't know what is.
>>733747820Absolutely, say whatever the fuck you want but THIS is when the 90's ended officially, all of the decade lead up to this screenshot in the OP
>>733748712I didn't hate the heavier feel of the mechs in SA2 but Tails' stages were sleep-inducing and the shrill beep of the laser has to go.Thank fuck for mods.
>>733748712Nah, Amy was fine. But there is nothing in Sonic Adventure 2 to compare her gameplay with.
>Shadow... I understand, you're unstoppable! Come on, everyone's waiting for us back on Earth!
>>733747820simultaneously both cringe and kino
>>733747820Sonic peaked here
>>733747820top 5 game for me. hate when it's shittalked on here. :(
>>733749986I've honestly seen more love for this game here than on the average youtube "channel".
>>733748592>>733748712there is no 1>>733747820the last good sonic game
>>733747820Absolute kino
>>733747820No, it was generally shit.>looks worse than SA1>terrible audio balancing>boring stages>legendarily shit Rouge/Knuckles stage>shitty last bossIts only good parts were introducing Shadow and a few tracks from the soundtrack.
>>733750385yeah well I hope you get raped by niggers or somethin
>>733747820Yes and it's Sonic Adventure 1 +2 + 06 are something the series will never be able to pull off again.
SA2 has too many scripted sequences and the levels are too narrow and straightforward. Also has a worse aesthetic than 1.
>>733748712>gamma was better than mech tails and eggmanNah his stages were like 30 seconds long, save for Hot Shelter.
>>733747820If you just watch the cutscenes, yes. If you're actually playing it? Hell no.
>>733747820It's aged like milk compared to other games that came out the same generation but it's still a fine enough game at least for the Sonic/Shadow Sections
>>733747820Highest order cringekino
>>733747820yesstill liked the first more though
slopnic was never good
LIVE AND LEEEEAAAAARN
If you've never gotten all emblems in the game, your opinion on the gameplay is worthless.
>>733751980>Original Genesis Trilogy>SA1/SA2>Unleashed HD>Colors>Generations>Shadow x GenerationsI beg to differ
>>733747820If it was kino why haven't they made a Sonic Adventure 3?
Chao garden, live & learn, and this fight alone make it extremely kinohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VXeIRsqqFbA&pp=ygUTQmlvbGl6YXJkIHNhMiBtdXNpYw%3D%3D
>>733752217Impossible to live up to SA2
It’s carried by the ending boss
>>733752217The people who could have done it have long since retired and even then, Shadow Generations showed us that it is kind of possible
>>733747820love this game and how it was early 00's edgekino. wish they had the balls to leave shadow be, his sacrifice and entire character arc was phenomenal. also, it was the last good sonic game which is a damn shame
>>733748592SA1 was garbage with long ass exploration scenes that led to nowhere other than you wondering where the fuck is the next level to push the plot. It didn't help that the camera was fucked up as well.
Sonic Adventure, when do i go fast?
>>733747820https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA2UX6k5lJk
>>733747820CringekinoIt's soulful for how sincere it is with itself. The story is nonsensical but it somehow comes together by the end. I use this game as an example of how good gameplay + good music can make it very easy to overlook things like the story in games
Should've kept Super Shadow's beta textures.
>>733752217they did, but they knew the game was gonna end up horrible so they took adventure out of the titlethe biggest thing its missing is the chao garden, which they didnt have time to do. every other element you could possibly define as an "sonic adventure game" is there
>>733747820Fuck yeah my only gripe is the Sonic vs Shadow boss fights are way too easy they both should be way more difficult.
Iizuka disliked having 6 separate characters with uneven gameplay content. Sonic has 10 stages, Amy has 3 stages, Big has 4 stages, etc. For SA2 he wanted to create a playlist where Sonic, Tails and Knuckles had even gameplay content.>City Escape>Wild Canyon>Prison Lane>Metal Harbor >Green Forest>Pumpkin Hill>Mission Street>Aquatic Mine>Route 101>Sky Rail>Hidden Base>Pyramid Cave>Death Chamber>Eternal Engine>Meteor Herd >Crazy Gadget>Final Rush
>>733752795How's the story nonsensical?
HOLD ON FOR WHAT IF
>>733753264Speaking of this game, apparently ChaosX has been real hush about the project because Sega wanted to turn P-06 into an official release. Not sure if that's true or not though.
>>733752795>Cringekino>It's soulful for how sincere it is with itself. The story is nonsensical but it somehow comes together by the end.Agreed with this part.The Sonic vs Shadow cutscene is the epitome of this.https://youtu.be/Qo609jN95fI
>>733753264>they didNo they didn't.
>>733747820It’s shonenkino. Sonic should always thrive to be like SA2.
>>733754849>nuh uhok
>>733753817>tails casually forging a useable chaos emerald and then never doing it again>the changing size of the master emerald>rouge is a well known and very famous "spy">sonic and shadow do not look similar and everyone confuses them>rouge would have fallen into lava even though she can fly or at the very least glide>exactly how much time did gerald robotnik have to make shadow evil and put his plans in motion after maria was shot?>in what context could gerald mess with shadows mind in the first place if shadow was ejected as soon as maria died? so his whole diary is off and the player just makes their own dots to connect>why is gerald's prerecorded message in the ark at all if he was arrested>it is never really explained why shadow can use chaos control without emeralds or atleast slightly far away from them. the entire fanbase just sort of accepts it unless some comic panel blabs about it.just off the top of my head
>>733747820Silver/White is better than piss gold and Sega will never convince me otherwise.
>>733747820incredibly kino
>>733747820Silver/White definitely has that sleek, futuristic vibe. Looks like something straight out of a sci-fi movie.
a jewel containing the ultimate power
>>733747820the entire game is so fucking stupidlove it though
>>733759115CHAOS.........CON-TROL!!!!!!!!
>>733757228>exactly how much time did gerald robotnik have to make shadow evil and put his plans in motion after maria was shot?He worked on him while in captivity, presumably under GUN's orders and supervision>why is gerald's prerecorded message in the ark at all if he was arrestedShadow put it there after Eggman released him>it is never really explained why shadow can use chaos control without emeralds or atleast slightly far away from them. the entire fanbase just sort of accepts it unless some comic panel blabs about it.Gerald made him that way. He has innate chaos energy.The rest is cinema sins level useless nitpicks that don't affect the story at all.
>>733748712nah using eggman at all was a fucking god send.
>>733752217real answer is that they got REALLY triggered by journos calling sonic friends shitty
>>733759246I really don't like how the models look in SA2, especially the tiny central mouths. And what retard thought mocapping was a good idea?
What did /v/ think of the movie? I thought it was done pretty well. I particularly loved the stargazing scene with Shadow and Maria. My main gripe is that the Robotniks get way too much screentime compared to Shadow.
>>733760215after not hating the first movie, and really liking the second (ignoring THAT scene), i don't wanna see it. I never cared much for the story of the first games, but SA2 is special, i don't want to see it changed, it doesn't even have rouge let alone the biolizard.
>>733760215LIVE AND LEARN
PINGAS
>>733747820is super sonic's hair a reskinned shadow model?
>>733760215I liked but but the whole segment of them exploring the abandoned base bores me a bit, and I think they COULD'VE pulled the Biolizard at the end with Gerald making it grow with water from a small one or some shit, I don't know, also, Live and Learn BARELY played, like, the ACTUAL lyrics, I could've appreciated hearing it a bit more,like, for a solid minute, but, like always, hollywood is scared of using the music from the games with Mario movie being a big exception.
>>733760032those answers are fair, but how much effort and time would it have really taken to explain these things in game? thats my issue with it. the lip syncing and translation is a mess anyway, just throw in one line of dialogue to clear things upim not willing to call these things nit picks, they are fair criticisms of this goofy kids game that I love. but its reasonable to point out bad writing, especially when all these games have it.just look at frontiers. tails has to have this entire boring character arc where he decides he needs to be more useful on his own, specifically after the forces shitshow.the guy can make homemade chaos emeralds, dude, he can more or less build his own weapon of mass destruction. There is nothing stopping him from being useful, its contrived writing and the writers just need everyone who isnt sonic to be useless.you can apply this to the "nitpicks" of sa2. rouge can fly. Why does rouge need to be saved by knuckles to show any affection and why did it have to be that specific scenario? they coulda just had him punch an incoming boulder or use his strength to save herAnswer: its lazy writing.
>>733760097I can enjoy the mech levels, but hes even heavier than tail's mech for some reason.cosmic wall and weapons bed kicked serious ass, I do get it. but you know, he coulda walked a little faster or steered better and the beeping sound was a dumb choice.
>>733748592Open Your Heart>Live and Learn
>>733760215call me a grouch, but it made me feel old as fuck. all 3 of these movies feel like they are for coco melon ipad babies instead of being just for kids. It wasnt horrible, but I have no desire to watch these ever again.I would have liked it more if it was closer to the game, but that was never going to happen. I felt nothing at the end and it all felt a little unearned.say what you want about sa2's story but it was a massive build up and pay off that did the job. these movies make me feel nothing. it just doesnt hold a candle to fighting the biolizard and watching the screen turn red as you enter the atmosphere
>>733760486>how much effort and time would it have really taken to explain these things in game? They're not necessary to understand the story and are not explained in detail for the sake of pacing. The story is told I'm broad strokes and doesn't bother with bogging itself down with the logistics of everything. And those points specifically can at least be inferred; Shadow constantly calls himself the "Ultimate life form", it doesn't need to be explained that being able to use chaos control is part of that description, Gerald'd diary already explains that he completed Shadow after he was captured, and how the Ark was rigged just requires you to pay more attention to what's deliberately not being shown to you for the sake of the twist.>rouge can fly. Why does rouge need to be saved by knuckles to show any affection and why did it have to be that specific scenario? Why does it matter and do you actually care or do you only bring it up because other professional nitpickers bring it up as a cheap gotcha to sound witty? The situation isn't even remotely comparable to Tails' whole arc in frontiers because, well, it's an entire character arc compared to a literal split second, spontaneous moment. >Answer: its lazy writing.No it's just lazy arm chair nitpicking. Anybody that isn't aggressively autistic doesn't care because it doesn't affect anything about the story or the characters.
https://youtu.be/Qo609jN95fIHow the fuck was it so kino
>>733747820SA1 was the better overall game, but I played SA2 more because it has the better Chao Garden
I still don't know how to actually do the Eggman vs. Tails and vice-versa fights I kinda just button mash till I win.
>>733760436>with Mario movie being a big exception.Except that they forced Illumination to replace several tracks with the usual hippity hops and zoomer bops.
>>733763287Stay close and keep circling around him and it's easier to avoid the fuck you laser
>>733763471I'll do that next time cause the laser would just always hit me.
this is autism related but when i pass through the cannon's core stage i sometimes stop to observe the design of the ark itself in these areas.you can tell that this stage was the one where the design team went all in on making it some kind of cool as fuck mystical but also sci-fi kind of stage with a lot of gizmos that you cannot comprehend, like what is even the purpose of these rotating cubes in sonic's part of the stage for example. this makes no sense from the start, so you can begin to use your imagination to fill the gaps.also something to think about is literally how long did this take to get built when humanity is clearly still in the 2000's era down on earth? the ark itself is so fucking huge dude, and most of the architectural engineering here looks NOTHING like what we would consider to be normal. how did they do it?its so cool bros...
>>733757228>>sonic and shadow do not look similar and everyone confuses themThey have the same body structure, Sonic has changed turned golden in public, Sonic wears different attire in SA2 and the only people who were aware of Shadow at the time were the people who wanted absolutely no one but themselves to know that Shadow even existed.It makes sense in the context of SA2, it does not make sense for people to confuse one for the other after SA2 unless they are still unaware of both hedgehogs or are so stupid that they can't tell who is who even when they know about both hedgehogs.If you show someone who isn't a sonicfag a picture of Shadow, they will think you're showing them a picture of Sonic because they aren't aware that Shadow is a separate character.I would not be surprised if there were Sonicfags at E3 2000 that thought Shadow was a new super form like Hyper since all they would've had on him at the time was a single headshot of him glaring at the camera over his shoulder.
>>733747820Yes.
>>733747820YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH
>>733748563I liked the SA hub world but i can see why they took it out for SA2.
>>733760215She should have been shoot, instead they pussied out and have her die because of a random explosion.
>>733747820It was beyond kino. It was Ludo.
>>733753981>>733752630>>733752240An artificial hedgehog uses the real the emeralds and a real hedgehog uses an artificial emerald.At their first meeting in San Francisco, Sonic felt as if he were staring into a dark mirror of himself, the fake hedgehog. Later, when they met in Green Forest/White Jungle, Shadow turns the tables, accusing Sonic of being the pale reflection of himself, the ultimate lifeform. Finally, we come to this scene, where Sonic has just used Chaos Control to warp out of the exploding capsule with a "fake" Chaos Emerald, a technique he learned by watching Shadow, the "fake hedgehog," perform it with a "real" one. They learn here that neither of them was the faker, and both of them were the real deal. After all, the "fake emerald" was indistinguishable from the real one because it had the same wavelength and properties.>You never cease to surprise me blue hedgehog. I thought that capsule you were in exploded in space.>[Starts jogging slowly] You know what I can say... I die hard! [Camera pans to the fake Emerald] You actually saved me, you know.>It was a Chaos Emerald, wasn't it? But, there's no way you could have activated the Chaos Control using an Emerald that's fake. [Sonic and Shadow start to run faster] So, there's more to you than just looking like me. What are you anyway?>What you see is what you get! Just a guy that loves adventure! I'm Sonic the Hedgehog!>I see. But you know, I can't let you live! Your adventuring days are coming to an end!You can feel he's for real, he wants to kill Sonic.The situation is desperate, he needs to settle this with his newfound rival as soon as possible, and then go back to the Control Room, to fulfill Maria's "wish".There was something special about them both finally reaching (what they thought was) the end.This is where Sonic's writing peaked
>>733755402Sonic games were way better when it was just a shonen anime trying to save the world. Shit was chunni and edgy asf but kino
I'm still sad that sonic has long since left the shonen era and is firmly in the gay (figuratively and literally) melodrama era. Just another thing that I liked hijacked by a bunch of people that need a blue hedgehog to validate their existence. I'll just be glad the Archie autism could end before they were able to shove all the modernisms in that universe.
>>733747820Of course it was kino, even if the audio mixing was ass
SA2 PC's lighting has been fixed>New Event Renderer, completely rewritten from the ground up to restore Dreamcast functions, add powerful transparency sorting logic, and debug features - such as a debug camera!>New Event model/animation replacement system, for quickly and easily editing events without needing to edit the entire event!>Dreamcast Events have finally been ported to PC, as-is, with no compromises!>Lighting data is now correctly read and applied as it was originally intended on Dreamcast>The GameCube version was restricted to 2 lights while Dreamcast used 4 for the Events, butchering the lighting - despite most light data being untouched in Battle>All Dreamcast Event files have been ported, including E0350 (Dreamcast intro), with care taken to make them as pixel accurate as possible. Changes were kept to what was necessary for accuracy and function (especially for transparency)>The game now supports specular color - or 'Offset Color' as it was called on Dreamcast! It's an extra vertex color that's added on top of the base vertex color and texture color, giving the effect of a bright spot on the polygon. For restoring the Dreamcast look of SA2, this is the largest leap yet as SA2DC used this effect nearly everywhere!>Dreamcast hardware supported multiple methods of combining vertex color, offset color, and texture color. This is now supported by Render Fix!>The Dreamcast and GameCube had totally different fog hardware. The Dreamcast can very easily recreate any GameCube fog, but the other way around is not so possible depending on how the fog is setup>The Dreamcast's fog system was very complex and we just can't restore that as of right now. All of those mods you see talking about fog restoration actually just get the fog looking as close as possible, they're just best case recreationshttps://github.com/shaddatic/sa2b-render-fix/releases/Right now Dreamcast fog isn't possible
>>733747820The kinoest Sonic game ever made.The best Sonic game ever made.The best 3D Sonic game ever made.The best Sega game ever made.The last great Sonic game ever made.The last good Sonic game ever made.The best Dreamcast game ever made.Top 5 Gamecube games ever made.
>>733765121this game was so fucking cool.thanks for writing this up
>>733748563SA1 will always be a extremely close 2nd.SA2 just improved and fixed everything "bad" about SA1. However I strongly prefer the open world exploring of SA1.
>>733760731Wrong
>>733766020The treasure hunting radar is strictly worse and 2 loses the hub worlds. I'd rather play the first.
>>733751986It was a good number of years until I learned it was "Live and Learn".It still sounds more like he's singing REMEMBER!And it sounds more like "you've been betrayed!" Than "you paid in trade".You paid in trade is a stupid lyric. It makes more sense to say "you can hardly swallow, you've been betrayed"
>>733750994>06Are you being a contrarian?
Five minutes should be plenty!
>>733748714my only complaint is that the final boss is too easy and quickif you're anything approaching decent you'll only get to appreciate the moment for like, 2 minutes
>>733765121Thank you very much, anon.I love Sonic so much.Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Eggman,Metal, Shadow, Rouge, all of em.My FUARKING heroes
sa1/2 is possibly the most autistic sovful jank ever conceived in any media.
>>733751702Thats a positive
>>733766604Plus Cream and Blaze!
>>733756732It's literally not SA3. That's an objective fact.
I just wish it had an overworld like 1.
I bought this sonic head and have no fucking idea what to do with it
Batman driving around radical highway and shadows becoming batman made my inner 7 year old and inner 12 year old selves fucking go full chuuni god damn
SA2 feels like a 90s action movie to me.
>>733760604>but hes even heavier than tail's mech for some reasonHe's a fat fuck, literally one of the heaviest characters after Big and Vector
>casually lifts self and entire mech
LIVE AND LEARN(HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW)
>>733763225there is no 1
It's awesome cringedgykinoCredgykinoKrinoludo
>>733748712playing as Amy was great (okay fine, the block puzzles in Hot Shelter were tedious as shit. The rest of her gameplay was ludo). Her only real flaw was she only had 3 action stages
