>Uses Black and White MagicsShouldn't they be Gray Mages? What makes them red?
>>733749096that bitch Gandalf took the copyright on grey
>>733749096Red is simply a cooler color.
>>733749096Red because they also use a sword they are drawing blood with
>>733749096What’s the correlation between blue and copying stuff?
When will they get a green, pink and yellow mage?Then we can have power ranger mages
>>733749096I'm guessing it's just because of the palettes they used in FF1. The 6 classes are evenly split between a red/white palette (Fighter, White Mage, Red Mage) and a blue/brown palette (Monk, Thief, Black Mage). Making them wear red and have white hair would've been the best way to distinguish them visually from the other classes, especially the other two mages, while staying within the limits of those two palettesIt'd be kind of weird to call them "grey mages" when the sprite isn't grey at all. Even the Black Mage at least has a black void for a face to fit the name
>>733750708ENTER GREEN MAGE
They're derived from Wizardry's Bishop class.
>>733749096They're red-y to rumble
>>733750708>When will they get a green,already a thing
The Black/White/Red mages are a reference to Dragon Lance's order of high sorcery where each alignment had to wear a specific colour when it came to robes.https://dragonlance.fandom.com/wiki/Orders_of_High_SorceryEvil mages wore black, Good wore white and Neutral had red robes, FF1 didn't have alignments so Kawazu reinterpreted that colour scheme through a different lens, Black mages focused on offensive spells and support, white mages focused on defensive stuff, healing and anti-undead/evil spells, red mages were closer to the Krynn equivalent of Red robes being the mages that were most focused on learning magic without discrimination so they got everything but the top tier spells.
>>733751423Carrot from One Piece?
>>733751423Heavily dislike this addition since they usually just take spells from both white and black but have nothing that really makes them unique
>>733754220It's basically just WHM balancing and saying they should only get restorative spells instead of restorative spells AND buffs.
>>733751423Not enough games with green mage bros
>>733751423bnuy sexo
>>733749096Most of Final Fantasy I was stolen from D&D 2nd edition, so I think it's a reference to something in Forgotten Realms
>>733756334probably Raistlin from Dragonlance
>>733752430/thread
What’s the coolest party formation?
>>7337583254 fighters, just like my dnd party. And shitload of healing items.
>>733758325fighterblack magered magethief
Why didn't mages have Cantrips/Lv 0 spells that they could use at no cost?
>>733758580because this isn't DnD?
>>733758325Black Mage and White Mage are required to get all the spells. Fighter is similarly important for getting the best swords. Black Belt lets you save money on weapons.
>>733751423to really make them feel unique they should have been focused on board manipulation instead of just being a defensive mage white mage in tactics A2 is primarily focused on healing spells and has few support spells but still feels to tied together
>>733749096Many background elements already used the various shades of gray so it would make it hard to see the character if you then also used gray in the sprites. sprites were limited to 3 colors+black, red pops, green or gray would make the character hard to track against the background so the character sprites didn't use those colors.
>>733749096They are also fighters
>>733749096Early FF is heavily based on D&D, in fact the JP version of FF1 uses spell slots like D&D instead of MP.In the Dragonlance D&D setting there are 3 kinds of wizards:>White Wizards who use magic for good and the betterment of man>Black Wizards who use magic for destruction and their own desires>Red Wizards who lay between these two dichotomies and use any kind of magic they pleaseSound familiar?
>>733758325Double Fighter, White Mage, Black Mage is a good party. That's the team I beat NES FF1 with. Fighter, Black Belt, White Mage, Black Mage is also great. Bosses fucking melt once FAST/Haste is on Black Belt. Just gotta hope he doesn't die beforehand. If you're playing a version that doesn't utilize the NES inventory system, you can have the BB use the Giant's Glove to give himself SABR (or does it cast TMPR? Been too long since I've played 1) to expedite the boss killing process.Fighter, Black Belt, Red Mage, White Mage is another great setup. I've also swapped Black Mage for Red Mage in the double Fighter party.
>>733749096because THIS is a grey mouser
I like blue!
>>733759087No other rpg gave the same feel as this. Maybe its cause I was reading Fellowship at the time but getting the ship, then finding the canoe etc really felt like an adventure I was personally having rather than watching a movie in numbers go brrr format.
I lent a friend my cart of FF and he was like this is stupid, all you do is fight imps
>>733749534I'm pretty sure red is an warmer color than grey.
>>733749096>what makes them redmy guess? the red robes and red hat. the actual answer? Red was the color of the fighter in FF1, so to visually signify Red Mage as a hybrid melee and caster, he's red but has robes
>>733763102Yep, there's a reason it was so successful. It feels like a real adventure. The big standout moment for me was climbing up the mirage tower and arriving at the floating fortress to see it's a classic sci-fi space ship. And then later making the connection that the Lufenians are a stranded advanced species who have gone somewhat primtive. It's really cool and calls back to the early 20th century where sci-fi and fantasy weren't so split.If you liked FF1, try reading the Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser stories. They were the biggest inspiration for the early dnd stuff that inspired FF1 and 2.
>>733752430Cool
>>733749096Because they were a legal loophole because they didn't know if they could call them Bards and not get sued. Some titles even give them Archery as an option as a callback to their original intention
>>733752131Cardinals can only use holy magic
