It's better than Ocarina of Time by a lot.
>>733755651So neither of them are good games? Glad we can get that over with.
>>733755651>>733756212Many transgenders are saying this.
>>733755651Maybe on opposite dayOr in retardville
>>733757271Nah just try the HD rerelease and see for yourself, retard.
>>733755651>Shitward Butterfagknife>Better than OoT>>733757497>HD "demake">Better than OoT
>>733757731the rerelease is significantly better than the original
>>733755651Sorry, TP, you're still the worst in the series
>>733757759No it fucking isn't.
I will apologize to wind waker
>>733757898it literally is, lmao
>>733755651it's better than TOTK but it's still the second worst 3D zelda
>>733758379Totk is the best one though, you're whack.
>>733755651its actually underrated as fuck
>>733758074No, and it never fucking will be, kek.
>>733755651BoTW + ToTK are still the best.
>>733758870lol it literally is
>>733758916LMAO no. It's hot fucking dumpsterfire-tier garbage and now, we have Tardybayashi's Ubishit Zelda because of it, you retard. Aonumale is a fucking hack sham that needs to be put on the fucking Mario team and for Koizumi to be put back on the Zelda team.Sit the fuck down, the adults who actually grew up with legitimate Zelda (pre-SS).
oot mm ww tp and ss are all good
>>733757759Wow, a polished turd!Kill yourself
>>733755651Sex with Fi.
>>733758414>>733758908Not Zelda stay on topic please
>>733758980niggy you old, sit down for this one
>>733760201You wouldn't know a good fuckin' Zelda game if it bitch-slapped your sorry-ass face, faggot.You sit down, motherfucker, lah mao.
>>733760289The war is over we can go home tendie
The 30 hour long tutorial with nonstop handholding? I know you women see gamers as toddlers but this taking it a little too far.
2026 and OOT still gets a thread every day. Why?
>>733760650You had to be there
>>733760650It's still the gold standard for gaming.
>>733758980Nah fuck you. You had twenty years to eat the same Zeldaslop over and over, time to move the fuck on. Not your series anymore, shoulda bought extra copies bitch lmao
>>733760458The tutorial is easily over 60 hours long, actually play the game faggot.
>>733760729Absolutely cancerous behavior, kek. Niggers like you should be and need to be fuckin' violently thrown the fuck out and gatekept for being retarded NPC fucksticks.
>>733760821pssst, this isn't your franchise, you'd best leave before there's trouble
>>733760650It is a fun game.
>>7337606509 times out of 10 it's about how outdated the game is
>>733755651OOT just had harder hitting attacks, louder sounds, heavier gravity, more tight-knit snappy animations. I really think (((they))) forced them to make the games softer
>>733760874LAH MAO.Fuckin' end your bloodline, nigger, you'll never fuckin' be accepted, may as well just get your sorry ass John Lennon'd, Commie-faggot. It ain't your franchise, no matter how hard you pray for it to be, the Koizumichad Zeldafags will fuckin' laugh at you for putting in your Commiefaggot LGBBQGIOUBNAIYHBGBGHY++2S pedoshit.
>>733760912>The people who were 8 when skyward sword came out are now 23>Suddenly we get youtube essays about how it doesn't actually suck dick, and is totally underrated!People who can't distinguish between nostalgia and actual quality should be euthanized.
>>733761032Can we just euthanize them and the BOTW/TOTKfags already?
>>733760968Oot sounded like PZZZUT when you attacked something, and SS sounded like SSSSWURP, I don't know which I prefer
Ocarina of Time is fine, if a bit dull on the in-between field portions, and the 3DS version unfucked the Water Temple pacing. Majora's Mask is great so long as you're not playing unpatched 3DS. Wind Waker is a bit too barren and simple, but it's charming. Twilight Princess is fine, if underwhelming. Skyward Sword is okay in some portions and boring in others.There.
>>733761032>boomer cannot connect his depreciated motor functions to his dislike of the motion controls
>>733761090The clanking Link's sword off a metal shield for instance had flashier animation and a snappier bounce that made it exciting.
>>733760994The fans of Botw & Totk outnumber you a million to one, please see reason before you're completely eviscerated.
>>733761032I don't know. I'm not a SSfag but maybe they're discovering new things about it? It's not always the case that it's entirely nostalgia. OoT still gets new shit found out about it that keeps it interesting and the fans keep it alive. Something I would attribute to nostalgia would be TP. It's a good game but claiming it's on par with OoT or better when its biggest gameplay find is holding a rupee for 20 hours to clip through a wall is uh... Yeah. At least for me anyway.
>>733761154That sounds like a SHHHINK but in SS it sounds like PAGANG they're both rather shrill
>>733761109>the 3DS version unfucked the Water Temple pacing.No it did not. You cannot unfuck the Water Temple, it's inherently going to be fucked by design. It's a tower where you must raise and lower the water to progress. That is just a slog no matter what you try and do to it.
>>733761076Switch zelda fans aren't nostalgics, they're just hyper casuals, who prefer when a game doesn't require you to ever think about anything>>733761126I played the fucking game when it came out and the controls were shit then too, nerrel
>>733761171LAH MAO.There's more OoT and MM enjoyers than your pathetic faggot cult of fucking mouth-breathing troonfaggot Satanist pedo-diddling axe-wounded noodle-armed fuckwits. Real Zelda enjoyers that grew up with OoT/MM would fucking suplex your ass through a goddamn table.
>>733761238Maybe TP stands on its own without little contrivances
>>733761290NTA but water temple is easily the best dungeon in that primitive game, made you consider layout, good use of 3D design
>>733761308It can but that's also what will keep it from being legendary with games like OoT, Mario 64, etc. I'm not saying that it's bad by any means for that.
>>733761248There was a flash during the clank and Link physically got knocked back to a snappy stance. His moves had serious power to them, in SS they were a bit lighter.
>>733761302You're very old anon, you might want to take a breather there there
>>733761290Played about the same time as the rest of the dungeons for me. Shit, even the decomp letting you put Iron Boots on an item slot shaves the problems down so much to solely just remembering where to raise/lower the water. You're either really underestimating how some colored lines and the Iron Boots change unfucks that dungeon, or you struggled like me as a kid and really can't find those damn plaques like remembering to go under the rising platform in the central tower.
>>733761305It's okay to age out of your favorite franchises, it's happened to everyone at least once
>>733761346Aside from the keys and shit being hard to find there, putting on shoes in the N64 game took an incredibly long time and shouldn't happen very often.
>>733761391Link is knocked back in Skyward Sword as well though, it's the sound that's different
>>733761405>You're either really underestimating how some colored lines and the Iron Boots change unfucks that dungeon, or you struggled like me as a kid and really can't find those damn plaques like remembering to go under the rising platform in the central tower.Neither and it's clear from what I'm quoting that you don't even understand the issue at all. It's just an annoying temple to play. You can mitigate some of the issue by putting iron boots on its own button but that's not going to fix it.
>>733761463So you can unfuck the water temple it seems
>>733755651
>>733761484Nah, Link literally bounces back and rocks back on his heels which is kino. The 90s style wild inertia from attacks was well done during that time, now it's too dramatic with characters getting pwned and rolling around on the ground sideways all fucked up. We need more Amelia from Slayers energy. Where she got owned but was durable
>>733755651I never played a Zelda game in my entire life.
>>733761612Link flashing and looking at the floor when he is hit isn't any better
>>733761587BotWtrannies never recovered from this btw
>>733761587>U R MR GAYoh shit
>>733761649Damn good for you bro do you want a cookie or a gold star thanks for sharing with the class man
>>733761668Actually it is, the flashing is exciting and colorful, plus the invulnerability made him feel more durable and grounded. In Botw Link can get chain attacked and fucked the fuck up badly. If they wanted to go with that they should've sent him flying even farther then had him bounce off the ground to do some flips then reset. Added some tumbling from smash. Guess I'll just make my own Zelda game, I had a dream about it one time where it even had glitches that allow you to skip past boulders where you'd need bombs And the OOT Randomizer is the GOAT
skyward sword was a 3 hour game they padded out to make it an 8 hour game
>>733761812A nostalgiafag in the wild, unconcerned with objective reality. A fascinating specimen.
>>733761863Yeah the Aonuma effect that WW and TP both suffer from.
>>733761864They can improve Zelda but they need to bring OOT energy and make it fluid where it needs to be fluid and rigid where it needs to be fluid. The floaty gravity to backflips that land you barely any farther away has got to go, Link needs to leap farther backwards and gain some distance, that's why that worked so well in dungeons, you can get a better feel of your surroundings that way and still not feel like you're too far and closing distance is a hassle. Botw needs more speed and power. That's literally all it is, there's no magic nostalgia formula separating games, just needs better physics so you can attack faster and harder, it's more exciting.
>>733755651REMEMBER: ANY ENEMIES THAT YOU FIGHT, YOU CAN SEE THEIR INFORMATION ON THE START SCREEN
>>733761812Can't wait for the BOTW randomizer, where I enter Shrine #347 and instead it's Shrine #349, holy shit, id cum so fuckin hard
>>733761995Where it needs to be rigid*>>733762078I don't really even like replaying games anyway. I haven't replayed the OOT Randomizer ever since beating it except with random locations which I haven't beaten. I want to try the other randomizers but the only one I could beat was Wind Waker, every other classic Zelda game is too challenging. Majora's Mask has way too many annoying side quests. I just can't. OOTR is just it's own game.
>>733762228I don't play randomizers either but IMO a randomizer existing for your game is indicative it fucking did something right. Something very very right. A randomizer coming out 30 years later even moreso.It means people love it, and are autistically in love with it, and can and will go so far as to recognize every single location in the entire game world at a glance and work to navigate a randomized version of it by calling back from memory.Not a lot of modern games, including modern Zelda games, seem like they could carry that idea. Too many areas you could randomize would look too similar to be too similar to play.
>>733761238>OoT still gets new shit found out about it that keeps it interestingPic related for me, I played this game on launch and only now realized he does this when over a cliff or a pit.
>>733757497nta but i loved skyward sword since the wii release
>>733760729tourist are not fans and can't make anything new, the best that can happen is just recycling botw and old mechanics because nintendo is bad now.
>>733755651I said it before, TP is trash until you enter Lakebed Temple. Slow intro, Forest and Mine are drawn out and uninteresting dungeons, Bug Hunts are the worst filelr Zelda ever had, yes, worse then Triforce Hunt. And overall it feels like it is half of the game rather then "just" two temples and the entrance quest to the third.But Lakebed and onwards are memorable varied temples and interludes between them that don't take as long, and the plot steps up. But by then the damage is done, especially on replays.
>>733762553I don't see a pit though
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>>733755651No, but it does mog WW (although that applies to every 3D Zelda including the two BOTW games.)
>>733762356>a randomizer existing for your game is indicative it fucking did something rightSoftware to smear any hand placed design so you can squeeze blood from a rock?
>>733762617it's really good
>>733764293Are we really pretending that OoT's item placement had thousands of years of thought and love poured into each item's location now? Fuck outta here, retard.
>>733764723What blissful strawman cope.
>>733764770>No argumentWow, shocker. Who could've seen that one coming.
>>733764819That's my line.
>>733764869So you have nothing else to say so get the fuck outta here kid.
>>733764909Irony.
>>733755651Terrible overworld but the dungeons are god tier
>>733765042I don't really agree there, Ancient Cistern was good and the best in the game, but people overrate it a fair bit on a series wide scale (Though i'd still probably put it as a Top 5) and it and the Desert ones were the only memorable ones. Skyview is probably one of the shittiest dungeon i can remember ever playing in a Zelda and i can't even remember what the other ones were or their primary puzzles on the top of my head.BUT the Overworld(s) parts of the surface are basically dungeons of their own. It's really just Skyloft that sucks on that front.
>>733755651Skyward COCK is better by the very virtue of being the ONLY Zelda title where Link canonically FUCKS.
>>733761812This is the kind of autism I love to see on this board.
>>733755651SS was the first zelda game that felt like a waste of time to where I didn't have any fondness for it one minute after completing it. It was an ugly, piss-easy collectathon for babies.>>733765042OoT, LA, OoS, OoA, MC, WW, TP, hell, even MM had better dungeons. But SS having such shit dungeons definitely planted the seed of "do we really even NEED dungeons in a zelda game? Why don't we just make an open world ubislop daycare game with a hundred single-room puzzles based on five schemas, plus a thousand instances of the exact same eight korok homework assignments?". It was foreshadowing for what was to come.
>>733762356>IMO a randomizer existing for your game is indicative it fucking did something right.No, it means you can literally randomize all the hand placed design and it results in something superior to what was actually created by hand
>>733768052So I am better than you for playing Oot on release and feeling like it had no staying power?
>>733768052Hell noWW dungeons were dogshit
>>733768173No, your shit taste is a personal defect.>>733768203Better than SS's.
>>733768487Man, no
>>733760960So, like all those other other outdated games that get day threads for talking about how outdated they are, right?
>>733756212Zelda is the "Super Mario" of adventure/dungeon crawler games. All are aimed at children aged 7 and up.Zelda fans are not much different from adults who watch Peppa Pig.
>>733768052You're right in that BoTW+ToTK subhumans have nothing to do with Zelda, other than the game name and characters. Other than that, it also completely destroys what made Zelda popular and assassinates both Link's and Zelda's characters and looks - Link is now an actual homosexual twink wearing girl clothes, which makes it popular among the pre-troonout AGP audience and finalized troons. They now have their open world slop where nothing is placed with care and thought comparable to previous games, even the worst of them. It's as different to 3D Zelda up to now as OoT was to previous Zelda games. While OoT used the new technology available to push the games in a new, more aesthetically and gameplay pleasing direction, BoTW is a cutoff that began Ubishit clone open world sloppery. Not only did they destroy what made the series so loved, the story and treatment of the characters is worse than in their fucking MARIO games. The only Nintendo franchise that sank lower is Pokemon.
>>733768136Sounds more like the randomizer creates slop to slurp up by actually autistic people that don't play games other than the select few from their childhood.
