This is the worst world design this franchise has ever seen. >it looks prettyHalf of it can't be reached. Gone is the ability to go anywhere you want, like you did in the trilogy that came before. Walk down a hill, get stuck in foliage, go up a hill, get stuck in foliage. All locations have this one set route you need to use to get there, otherwise you're in for a bad time. No wonder they added that pathfinding mechanic. This is seriously shit.
>>733758279A ninja open world game sounds like an exceeding shitty idea even on paperLike why would a stealthy assassin go around exploring places in broad daylight?
>>733758279Odyssey was fucking greati really liked the ability to scale pretty much anything>>733758491Could worked to yasuke wasn't half baked like he isI can see a game where you have more traditional hack and slash stuff with one character roaming around the less dense area while other character in the densely populated areas with a lot of verticality
>>733758964Deus Ex already sort of did that, they got open hubs to roam around doing quests and dedicated levels to go full sneaky/combat in them, makes for a really nice gameplay loop
>>733759201Wondering around in big open fields during the day then using the night time to do ninja shit They could've done a lot of things but they didn't because Ubisoft sucks ass
>>733759030Is that Erika Ishii?
>>733758279Try undoing the fog of war for the entire map, you have no idea. There are many areas that can softlock you because a procgenned tree has no way to slide you left or right or even do stuff like webm related. The map is at its worst in the procgen hills where nothing exists but fog of war, but it's actually really good on the properly developed parts of it where humans did it. It's actually a solid map when you stick to the trails, garbage when you deviate from them. Claws of Awaji goes one step worse and the procgen hills randomly open up into a real area that's booby trapped so you just die instantly from the traps.If you want to explore the map better you either need to use a horse or Yasuke. The horse can climb way steeper hills easily and doesn't slide easily either but comes at the cost of sucking descending. Yasuke is significantly better at scaling hills because he can move at steeper angles without clambering, he swims faster, and trudges through snow faster. Naoe is better overall for doing stuff along the beaten path, when you want to deviate from it just switch or use a horse. It'll save you a lot of hassle.
>>733759663pot of greed mfer
>>733758279Black Flag was the last hurrah of the series so I don't know why you're complaining about a shit series being shit.
>welcome to the rice fields motherfucker>welcome to the rice fields motherfucker>welcome to the mud huts motherfucker>welcome to the rice fields motherfucker>welcome to the rice fields motherfucker>welcome to the mud huts motherfucker
maybe dumb question but can yasuke even swim?
>>733762620Yes. He does it at twice the speed Naoe does. He also rows a boat twice as fast. There's gender differences for how both of them play. Another thing he does faster is take the bars off of wooden doors assuming you don't just run into them to shatter them.
>>733762770t-thanks but I just wanted to make a racist joke...
>>733762295Origins was great but they seem to have learned all the wrong lessons from it.
dont even want to ask to be convinced on a game from this series anymore.
I'll just say it, I liked Ragnarok
>>733763250g-g-gawdlike....
>>733763250took me a second to realize what the fuck you were talking about
>>733763374I switched the spoken language to French. I think the voices reflected how character should sound better than the Eng dub. Eivor had a decent French Va that was really fun and cool, fit more with an adventurous viking who seemed more jovial than brooding.The Odin DLC was also insanely fun because you got to fly around as a bird
>>733763250Why?>The story was awful and extremely confusing trying to parse what exactly Odin did to cause the solar flare to advance faster and kill the Isu.>Magical powers really accomplish nothing much. You pretty much only run ice since it's so broken.>Divine upgrades give you a borderline useless passive buff for an armor set and it only functions in the DoR map itself and now you have to farm like two spawn points of these guys that take realtime hours to respawn just to upgrade random bits of your armor.>Every single weapon and armor set given to you is worse than anything you got in previous DLCs or even free content.>Jotnar are unnecessarily tanky to justify the elemental abilities.>The arena battle thing is not balanced at all for Drengr difficulty and you literally die in a single hit and enemies have absurd health buffs in it compared to anything else in the entire game. You have to drop your difficulty or it's not possible to clear.>Map is mostly open fields and random lava patches to justify the fire power when it's not sky islands.I guess flying on the sky islands was cool, I will admit.
>>733758491The modern RPG AC formula is probably what the series should have been from the start, the appeal of AC is historical tourism and I always thought the half baked stealth and focus on parkour got in the way but yeah if there was one setting where you want to do stealthy assasin gameplay it should be Japan. The Tenchu and Shinobi games were amazing.
>>733763583>The modern RPG AC formula is probably what the series should have been from the startNah dude, Odyssey showed people despise it when it tries to lean into the RPG aspect at all and they've listened to that criticism pretty clearly since. People want the Hidden Blade gameplay and parkour because it defines the series, the stealth being casualized does not change that fact. Having your damage dictated because you didn't have the right passives pissed a lot of people off.
shill ac odyssey to me bros
>>733763531>what exactly Odin did to cause the solar flare to advance faster and kill the Isu.I wasn't concerned with that, I just enjoyed seeing such a self obsessed god forgo everything for his own survival. I fucking hate the ancients and minerva shit, I enjoyed ignoring all of the references in favor of just enjoying some norse myth.>>Magical powers really accomplish nothing much. You pretty much only run ice since it's so broken.That's because you're boring. I never swapped from bird mode. Flying was fun, landing down to perch on a tree and kill a bunch of frost giants was thematically very fun. I just wanted a god fantasy, nothing more.>misc complaints about difficulty and grindingm8 this is fucking ass creed made by modern ubisoft, not elden ring. Difficulty is a meme with their games, I played on ultra easy story mode and had fun one shotting all enemies with a claymore. There's no satisfaction with beating these shit games on hard mode when they're as mechanically sound as bethesda games. Saved me time from grinding in a single player game too, you ruined your own experience.>Map is mostly open fields and random lava patches to justify the fire power when it's not sky islands.Sky islands are fun, the rest of the map was pretty boring ngl. it would have been better if they just took Scotland and added dwarf shit to it.
>>733758279why is her hair low-res...?
>>733763531Oh yeah I beat the helheim mode on story mode too. only took me 3 tries and that's because when I jumped off the perch to enter the first area eivor just hit the ground instead of the pool you're supposed to hit. These games are so poorly coded, I'm not going to subject myself to bullet sponge enemies and trying to optimize my fucking build when NPCs spaz through walls and I get set on fire for standing 6 feet from a fire pit.
>>733763693Do you dislike Assassin's Creed and just want a generic RPG in a Greek setting with Diablo Loot? You'll probably like it.Do you like anything about Assassin's Creed at all? It's one of the worst games in the series with a bloated map, the most repetitive content in the series, and Diablo Loot preventing you from even assassinating basic enemies without heavily investing into making your melee and bow damage worse to facilitate it or using an extremely specific crit build that turns you into a glass cannon.>>733763741>I never swapped from bird mode.You have access to three elements pretty early on permanently. You essentially just keep eagle for flying, fire for the constant lava walking, and ice forcombat.>Difficulty is a meme with their gamesThat's exactly why I play on the hardest difficulties because otherwise I literally don't have to touch their mechanics at all and the games become beyond boring. Shadows is a completely different game if you are not playing on Nightmare and Master Assassin. The stealth mechanics are borderline irrelevant on anything below Master Assassin and nothing matters with your equips even in the slightest below Nightmare difficulty. Even garbage weapons like the kanabo and bo can be used and the already unkillable Yasuke on Nightmare is even less killable.
>>733758491Am I the only person who understood that this was a joke kek
>>733763869>otherwise I literally don't have to touch their mechanics at all and the games become beyond boring. their mechanics are like red like green light. They add needless complexity. I enjoy seeing Eivor with a claymore mow down a castle like GUTZ. What the fuck does their mechanics bring?Anyway it's the only ass creed game I've played since rogue. I have no interest in the series, I just wanted a viking fantasy because GOW is unplayable and Skyrim is 20 years old
>>733763869this probably sounds dumb but lately I've been taking an interest in greek literature like the iliad, theban plays, their history, wars, etc, but I'm having a trouble imagining how those people looked like back then because I didnt grew up with greeks imagery (which are crucial because that means I wouldnt be able to figure out how they looked like, the nuances, etc) and culture in general. how would I imagine something if I didnt know what that thing was in the first place? With that being said, is odyssey a game for people like me?
>>733763986>What the fuck does their mechanics bring?Enemies constantly crowding you doing simultaneous attacks, you dying in 2-3 hits for a majority of the game, having to learn movesets, enemies actually being able to detect you while sneaking if you're not careful, it showing you what weapons are garbage and what aren't because otherwise every weapon is identical and all you're getting is a glorified skin, etc.Valhalla becomes a cakewalk about 2/3rds of the way through the game once you get rations on kill and you realize the stamina system actually doesn't matter in any way because of light attacks regenerating it.>>733764071If you just want it for the atmosphere and historical tourism, sure, just expect a lot of copy pasting between towns. Athens and Sparta are the only really distinct towns outside of Lesbos.Any person from history is barely interacted with. Plato is in a single Tales of Greece for like four lines, Herodotos farts around on your ship doing nothing and then randomly becomes your BFF who you trust with everything, and Hippokrates is interacted with two times in the entire game for like two or three lines. Pretty much the only major historical figure regularly interacted with is Alkibiades who just wants to have sex with you every time you meet him. There's a party where you meet with a few historical people but outside of meeting up with them like two times that's it.
>>733764310Again, you said it was bad and you didn't have fun, but your'e arguing that hard mode is good because of the mechanics, I explained that playing on story mode and just enjoying the power fantasy is better. You should just try the story mode, it's very relaxing.
>>733758279I dropped AC after 3Did the ancient aliens plot go anywhere?
>>733764442You do you man, that's just incredibly boring to me.>>733764662>Did the ancient aliens plot go anywhere?They're not aliens and yes. I haven't done a writeup of Shadows' Modern Day yet but Shadows is basically just about Abstergo making an AI that goes rogue and you're some rando syncing Naoe and Yasuke's memories who gets wrapped up in it.
>>733763641That's because the series started as a Prince of Persia spiritual successor and people are used to things being that way. But if I were to pitch you a game series where you visit historical places and meet with historical figures the best fit would be an RPG because it allows for a more immersive experience where you can tell small stories about people's lives at the time with sidequests. I would be insane if I proposed stealth assassin with parkour as genre for said new IP. Now the real issue with the nu-Creed formula is that Ubisoft just sucks, their open world games are formulaic, sloppy, bloated, held together by staplers and tape, suffer from terrible writing. The execution is bad, the gameplay and structure in the older Asscreed games was not good either but had some cool setpieces here and there and you didn't have to endure it for 100+ hrs so you were more forgiving
>>733764746You didn't play it? how can you say it's boring?
>>733759201In the first third in the hub levels you're a cop investigating cases, not a stealthy ninja
>>733764760>I would be insane if I proposed stealth assassin with parkour as genre for said new IP. Ghost of Sushi did all of what you said fine without any of that really so I don't think it's necessary.>>733764820>You didn't play it?I have 100%ed every single game except Shadows which I need to do a NG+ run of for the golden weapons locked to that difficulty. I'm saying that playing on lower difficulties is not for me, that type of gameplay is extremely boring to me.
>>733763693>shill ac odyssey to me bros>>733764071The discovery tour mode is really comfy. I hated the game but it was worth playing just to dick around as a tourist. Really lame that Shadows doesn't have it.
