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>half my games dont work
>everything crashes when it does
you guys fucking lied to me
this isn't fucking easy
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>bazzite
Why did you install a meme distro instead of Arch?
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>>733762797
no refunds
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>>733762797
Learn to use this shit on a secondary old machine, make one out of parts you upgraded from in years past, then when you know what you're doing use it for your primary machine.
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>>733763000
everyone tells me arch is only for linux experts because it breaks all the time when you update
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>>733763092
>get a 4 year degree in Linux PhD on secondary PC because you can just play your games
gee...
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>>733763127
>everyone tells me arch is only for linux experts because it breaks all the time when you update
They are sucking their own dicks, any retard can install arch or any linux distro just fine.
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>>733762797
I thought bazzite went to shit last month because an important contributer left?
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>>733763137
God forbid you have to learn something new because if would stop you from playing your little fucking games. You deserve to never achieve shit in your life. Great news is you are probably more than 1/4 on schedule.
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>he fell for the linux meme
just use a debloated windows
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>>733763760
Lol debloated windows is myth to all these zoomers and third world bugs. They could never understand you can pick apart windows and get back that 2gigs they see in task manager being held hostage. Its a mythical world of hackers and people smarter than them.
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Congratulations on your transition <3
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>>733763467
Yes, bazzite trannies bullied out one of the lead developers
You should be using an Arch-based distro anyways like CachyOS, EndeavourOS, or Arch itself
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>>733763603
>be windows 11 gamer on icelandic snow counting image board
>"get troonix get troonix it's easy, games run great and much fun"
>try troonix , crashes, shit and not much fun
>"what do you want to play your fucking games for? why don't you want to learn a entire new complex OS in between games of Skyrims?"
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>>733763760
It's that simple
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>>733763962
I dont use linux, never vouched for linux, think linux gamers are pretty cringe. I use debloated windows 11 pro and in my 34 years of using windows never had a problem i couldnt fix or work around. Todays problems people bitch about with os is alien to me.
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>>733762797
>Bazzite
Another bamboozled tourist lmao.
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>>733762797
I've been using Nobara for half a year and KDE is getting on my nerves, if I use this as an excuse to try gnome what distro should I get?
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>>733764356
bazzite gnome
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>>733763003
Don't listen to this liar. I have already fully refunded OP
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>>733764356
Try CachyOS, I was on bazzite and it was pissing me off so I went to that and it worked just fine.
You can pick basically any DE they offer tons, I picked XFCE for my old laptop and it works perfectly.
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>>733762797
Lel at linux troons, as bad and jeet as windows is only way I'm switching is if Gaben releases steamOS for PCs I can't be fucked to tinker with shit just to play bing bing wahoo
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>>733764501
Why did you pick CachyOS and why did Bazzite piss you off?

Genuinely asking, gonna replace my windows Legion Go with a Linux OS, not sure which one atm

Leaning towards Bazzite because it's a handheld for mostly gaming
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>>733764616
SteamOS is just Arch with a few programs pre-installed. You can recreate it in under an hour.
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>>733764709
I do not care, I want to press a button, install it and all my shit works and updates on it's own
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>>733764621
I run Linux Mint on my main machine have done for years and I love it, but my old laptop is weaker so I wanted something more gaming optimized.

I tried Bazzite but its stupid bazaar software center kept crashing every time I tried to use it and then my wifi suddenly stopped working so I decided enough was enough and tried CachyOS.
I've not been on it super long and haven't used the laptop as much, but it runs faster and doesn't have any annoying issues so far. It seems well made and performant, fuck KDE.
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>>733764747
You should stick to tech made for retards then, like a phone.
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>>733763000
>meme distro
>instead of arch
lol
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>>733764795
Can't play vidya on a phone, troonie, maybe after tweaking your faggie programs you can also tweak some chemicals make toonshine
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>>733762797
>every time you launch a new program you have to troubleshoot to get it to work.

I’m not 15 trying get a new crack to work. No one has time for this shit anymore. I don’t want to sit down in the evening with a nice highball and spend 2 hours configuring some game. I want it to just fucking work.
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>Get Linux it's so easy
>No not that one
>No not that one
>No not that one
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>>733764356
I like the way Nobara breaks itself every update for a few days. Keeps my on my toes.
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>>733764356
i would use fedora you always have the latest gnome that way
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just play games on console
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>>733765023
yeah if your time is limited i don't think this stuff is worth the effort, just deal with windows
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>>733765023
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>>733765023
If you are looking for things to work, get out the house do something worth a fuck. Computers suck ass.
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>>733762797
>he fell for it
People telling you to install Linux do it just to fuck with you, nobody here actually uses it.
inb4 fake user replies
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>>733763127
It's that kind of mindset that kept me from installing Linux at all for years even though I had long since grown to hate Windows, and in the end the only difficult part was getting my USB to flash correctly.
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You'll notice OP posted a pic from google instead of taking a screenshot of "his" desktop. Peculiar.
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>>733766040
These things are gonna to get worse since theres a ton of kids here for summer
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pop_os or cachyos
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>>733764616
I've had my deck for 2 years now and I can tell you you're not going to get the experience you want with steamOS.
Every retard on this board telling you gaming on linux just works is a shit eating shill.
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Literally just werks for me. Binblows on a secondary drive forthe rare occassion that the bros want to play those games with shitass kernal level anticheat.
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>>733762797
That's what you get for listening to Linuxfags. It's also woke as hell by the way.
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>>733767516
Pozzite
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>>733767516
>>733767539
I don't give a shit if my operating system is woke. I give a shit if it works.
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>>733767650
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>a linux fotm distro was just a meme and is now ded
Windows ALWAYS wins. bazzite was probably just harvesting userdata like linux users are always screaming M$ is doing
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>>733762797
Didn't this one implode like a month ago or did I mix it up with a different gamer distro?
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>>733767786
>90% of it is a user problem
how are you complaining that it's the machine's fault because you don't know how to go into bios?
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>>733768037
No? They are core problems apart of the system as a whole.
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>>733767786
Now lets see the list of Windows issues.
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>>733762797
Ummmmmmmmm why would you vaste your time playing games not vetted by the Linux community? There's a perfectly curated list made by passionate people who chose the best experiences already.
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>>733768130
Windows has its own problems, sure, but Linux? That's on another level.
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>>733768097
looks like most of it is a user problem because they're either lazy or running on outdated information and complaining for the sake of complaining. UE5 crashes randomly on windows and you don't think much of it but it has to be held against linux for some reason?
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>>733762797
here's the thing anon, linux is different than Windows. Unless you had to learn Windows, you're statistically too stupid for Linux (too young and retarded).
I wish the saying "zoomies dumb lol" wasn't true, but it is.
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>>733768374
That's just cope. Even the graphics would be completely broken without AMD and NVIDIA getting involved. Hardly a "user" problem. Also, I don't even believe that list said anything about UE5? People bash that engine in general because it's trash, not because of it being le Windows' fault.
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>>733762797
That's the typical Linux experience for you. It manages to you problems with the most simplest of things that you could never even imagine failing on Windows.
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using mint cinnamon right now
works pretty well
fucking amazed at how fast shit is compared to when I was using windows 10
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>>733768587
list has bitching on things people won't use like printer compatibility, how the linux task manager isn't like windows, game dev tools and whatnot so yes it's a user problem
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>>733764356
Just use base fedora workstation with gnome, it's probably the best gnome distro without any outside fuckery on the applications in the repos.
Although I'd recommend taking a look at the howtos from rpmfusion on how to install nvidia and amd drivers, these later don't come with hw acceleration for h264 and h265 without replacing the drivers with the ones from rpmfusion.
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>>733762797
What games did you actually try?
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>>733765187
>migrate to linux
>people keep saying mint is good for newbies
>try it
>got slapped with outdated packages, and my ass nuking the repo trying out 3rd party repo
>then got told to try fedora
>Nobara shit itself every other major update
>said fuck it, I'll go with arc
>never fuck itself, just some minor bugs from bleeding edge updates
I lol'ed
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>>733769398
>got slapped with outdated packages
have you tried like
updating them?
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>>733768783
>It's a user issue because they didn't personally fix the problems baked into the system!

That's what you sound like.
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>>733769543
>my prebuilt rig doesn't have gamer RGB on it!
That's what you sound like.
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>>733762797
>he fucking fell for it

AHAHAHAH
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>>733769475
Debian based distro is using an old stable version by design. At the time I was a linux noobs, and looking for 3rd party repo was scary, and I somehow fucked my dependencies.
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>>733769475
lol you know some distros won't release unless something is 100% stable right
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>>733767786
do you have the source of those claims? i don't doubt them, I just really don't want to save an image with ugly troonjaks...
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>>733769930
source is chatgpt with additional nonsense editing
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>>733769921
Sounds good to me.
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>>733770034
ok then get used to things being outdated
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>>733762797
>"i installed bazzite"
>posts screenshot from their website, instead of his own
At least try to make it a bit believable.
You should've been fake installing CachyOS instead anyway. Bazzite is almost 4 months behind on kernel updates now, ever since they ousted their sole kernel maintainer. Now they've created some fake Org, to try and get other gaming handheld distros to do their work for them: https://universal-blue.discourse.group/t/a-brighter-future-for-bazzite/11575#p-32627-introducing-the-open-gaming-collective-1 to fix their kernel predicament.
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>install bazzite just because fuck it why not
>no gpu drivers install
correctly, no games launch, nothing works except the ui
very cool gamesmen
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>>733770075
As long as things work, I shall.
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>>733762797
Why would you listen to retards who only play the 5 same 5 rpgs over and over and occasionally play half life 1 very badly. They don't know anything about video games.
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>>733770132
Did you install the correct version for your graphics card?
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>>733770132
>pick distro with training wheels
>wonder why you're moving at training wheel pace and everything updates shit faster than your machine
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post the PRETTIEST distro right now
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I have a LegionGo1
What should I install? Bazzite or.. Steamos? (Beta SteamOS Support)
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>xe fell for the troonix meme
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>>733762797
I can't find a game that doesn't work
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>>733770497
desktop environments aren't exclusive to distros though?
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>>733770518
steamos for sure, its going to be getting a lot better soon too
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Nobara is great for everything gaming-related. Haven't found a game that doesn't work or doesn't work properly.
Its only problem is that it's coded by 3 or so people, so when the next update wave comes in, something's bound to break and it will be at least a week of sitting on an older kernel till they fix it.
Thinking of a CachyOS or PopOS switch. Convince/dissuade me. Windowscucks need not reply.
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>>733764896
you can play the greatest game of the 2020s on a phone
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>>733770943
Try cachy. I only use their repo with vanilla arch but can vouch that they have less annoyance than nobara.
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>>733770943
That's the problem with derivatives that are not really distros essentially just the distro with stuff pre-installed. Not to say all of them are bad, but most of them are.
It's a good idea to just use a real distro and install what you need.
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saarlux is only for the poor
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>>733771040
Anything nasty/experience-breaking so far?
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>>733762797
>Linux is shit
Sky is blue
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>>733769930
>>733769996
Just search for "Main Linux problems on the Desktop, 2023 edition" because I can't post the link as 4channel thinks it's spam.
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>>733771075
Nothing wrong with running a distro that comes with all the stuff you need pre-installed and pre-tuned. Saves you time and effort.
>>733771078
>giving your money to microshit
Pathetic.
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>>733771204
as I said poorfags and thirdies like you
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>>733762797
Installed nobara, no issues. Maybe this whole computer thing just isn’t for you
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>>733771256
Good goy, pay to have microjeet install spyware on your PC and then brick it. Pajeet the CEO needs a new private jet, and you don't need that privacy.
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>>733763137
A phd is over twelve years of just college
Even being a fresh phd graduate still puts you at the bottom of the barrel of phd holders
Yknow because its something you do before you turn 30 generally
Stop being a NEET
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>>733763845
I can't even get most of my first world friends to do it. Even the most basic shit that's really easy to do but no they'd rather suffer from ads and retarded online search in their start menu. It's amazing what people are willing to suffer because they don't want to step out of their comfort zone.
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>>733770980
>gacha mobile trash
kys
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>>733762797
I run cachyos and i have not run into a game in my library thay does not work.
I could not however get pso to run deapite people saying it works fine.
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>>733763000
Arch is a meme distro. There's no reason to use anything other than Fedora, the literal creator of Linux prefers it because it's simply the best one.
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>every other retard here talks about how trying linux bricked their pc, killed their dog and forced them to read several pages of documentation or whatever
>tfw changed to linux mint years ago after windows 7 went EoL and its been business as usual
>biggest "challenge" was flasing a usb
I hope you fags are merely pretending to be retarded.
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>>733762797
Did you? Did you really? I'm not sure that you did. In fact I believe you have confabulated the entire story.
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>>733772286
Same. Used the same ISO for my Surface Pro as well, and the only thing I had to do there was install the specific Surface kernel to get the touchscreen working again. I don't understand people that bail on Windows cause shit's broken only to jump to a distro where shit's also broken.
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>>733771408
typical salty goy response
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>>733771697
> the literal creator of Linux prefers it because it's simply the best one
He also uses Gnome. You don't use Gnome do you?
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I use Arch+KDE and I have 0 issue. Also mods should increase the filesize because I bought a QHD monitor and the screenshot is too large for the site.
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>>733772429
those games run on shitnix because they're all fucking ancient
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>>733771621
because it doesn't affect them you retard
nobody uses the star menu you retard
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>>733772474
The only games that actually have problems on linux are Riot games and competitive shooterslop like Apex.
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>>733764621
I have CachyOS on my Legion Go and it works fucking perfectly with the handheld edition.
I also used it as my comfy main PC while docked for a while.
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>>733768037
>you don't know how to go into bios
This is where windows won, linuxfags can't even start to comprehend how to appeal to normalfags then they are surprised when they use windows
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>>733772286
>I hope you fags are merely pretending to be retarded.
You underestimate how tech-unsavvy zoomers are. Anything beyond kindergarten-tier handholding shit like Android and iOS UI sends them into a stupor. Most zoomers cannot even figure out folders and file systems, let alone flash a USB and switch to another OS. Having to run a command or two in Terminal would probably give them heart attacks.
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>>733772286
They are, as in it never even happened. None of the "people" "complaining" have ever posted a single desktop screenshot or a pic of their decks, every single post you see here is shilling. In fact, it's largely one guy who never changes his posting style.
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>>733768587
>Even the graphics would be completely broken without AMD and NVIDIA getting involved.
do you think microsoft writes the Nvidia drivers for windows?
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>>733772541
Depends on how you define having problems.
No game is immune to random crashes, especially when you do something weird and crazy like alt tabbing, trying to open another program while the game is running or putting/letting the computer go to sleep. Linux is an amateur piece of shit and it's probably riddled with even more government backdoors than windows.
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>>733772938
>No game is immune to random crashes, especially when you do something weird and crazy like alt tabbing, trying to open another program while the game is running or putting/letting the computer go to sleep.
I have no problems with any of that.
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>not a single mention of OP's GPU vendor
Of course it's nvindia
Stop listening to copers saying they're fine, you have to jump through hoops that don't exist on AMD
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>>733772797
No? According to an anonymous NVIDIA engineer, so many games ship out broken for Linux causing AMD and NVIDIA to do specific fixes and little hacks just for them. The Linux "community" is so fractured and doesn't have what's needed to get things working properly, so imagine how bad it would be if they didn't even bother.
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Worx on my linux mint machine
I even fixed the hanging stuttering issue
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>>733773114
???
You do know that that's being done constantly on windows right?
If anything it's more understandable on Linux since they have to go through translating the jeetware that is directx
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>>733773114
You mean like those 'game ready drivers' you have to download every other week?
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>>733773097
I wouldn't be surprised if this "nvidia doesn't work on Linux" shit is an actual FUD campaign by Microsoft.
>Oh, you use [GPU brand with the dominant market share]? You better stay with Windows 11 for the Best Experience™
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>>733773285
But you should. Even when Nvidia works on Linux you still get 20-30% less performance than you would on Windows.
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>>733773285
It absolutely doesn't work at the same level of seamlessness as AMD
You need to be motivated by your hatred of Microsoft to work around things and not get upset at Nvidia issues caused by their nigger attitude towards drivers
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>>733773185
Yes, but now they have to do things specifically for Linux (which is only like 2% of people) which is supposed to be independent of things like Windows entirely, but they don't have the resources to do it themselves.
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>>733773097
>not a single mention of OP's GPU vendor
To be fair that's because the OP is a made-up story
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>>733773440
All the work needed lies at the developer level
Soon they'll be forced to retire DirectX anyways due to valve giving them a big incentive to use vulkan with their ARM support
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>>733773249
Depends. Maybe if you're playing AAA slop, but yes, even there is issues on Windows because of developers not doing things properly and them having to patch the driver in various ways for example.
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>>733773285
No, that's well documented, nvidia gives zero shits about their linux support. Which makes the silly shill going about anonymous engineers complaining about something they categorically do not care for sound real funny.
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>>733773392
I use nvidia on archlinux KDE Wayland, and I've never had to "work around things" like you say. Shit just werks for me without issues
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>>733773507
All that means is they're not hacking what you play to work better, only the AAA slop. May I mention the absolutely sorry state of DX9 support in modern nvidia drivers? People are having to pull out DXVK on Windows to stop shit from crashing.
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>>733772690
The irony of this post (and the one he's replying to) is that these users haven't even bothered to change their fan curves. They just click the icons like babies.
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>>733773621
What an oddly specific thing to say. Projecting much?
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>>733773497
Well, there's a lot of old games that still use DirectX, so if the developers don't bother changing it, you might still have certain problems.
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linuxfags staying classic
>use linux
>nonono, not that distro
like if OPs issues get magically fixed by using anything else.
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>>733763127
Just like they told you Bazzite just works right?
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>>733773649
It's the #1 thing I do when I install a new OS, and doing it on Linux was not an easy process. Imagine listening to your computer humming 24/7 for no reason at all I bet your hallway chirps.
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>>733762797
works on my machine
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>>733762797
Check the system requirements on whatever gamestore you are buying the game on, and see whether Linux is supported under the "OS" section, if not why would you move to a unsupported OS and then blame the OS for not working with a game made for Windows??
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>>733773618
Well, sometimes they might have made changes that broke older fixes. I was just being cheeky there because I don't update that often because I don't play AAA stuff. Also, that's what happens when you don't use AMD.
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>>733773685
Older games are fine, Linux is on par or better at dx11 and older, they just need to finish extending support to older directx versions
What matters is the abandonment of DirectX 12 and actively supported games switching to vulkan
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>>733762797
i installed bazzite like almost 2 weeks ago (first time using linux) and i've had no issues
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I've been doing casual Mint usage on my laptop, wonder if it'll be a smooth sailing on my main machine
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>>733773732
>doing it on Linux was not an easy process
Sounds like a you problem.
>install controller software for your mobo
>adjust fan curves
Not sure why you're trying to sell this as some sort of achievement.
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>>733773830
Well, it's still extra performance cost stressing your hardware more translating DirectX into Vulkan, and also if the developers don't actively support ones like DirectX12, you can run into issues for example.
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>>733771697
The people doing all the fucking work use gentoo or debian or ubuntu
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>>733765173
kek
it do be like that
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>>733765173
nvidia drivers are the same no matter the distro
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>>733762797
>half my games dont work
Works on my machine
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Bazzite is a pain in the ass.
You need to learn about flatpak management because the way in which you would introduce "native packages" to it is by doing some retarded shit called "layering" that you're not supposed to do often if ever.
If you want to fuck around with some of the defaults, because certain folders are read only, you're on your own.
If you want to install certain software on it that's a bit more obscure, from some random github repo, you're on your own. You're told you need to use distrobox for it. You basically need workarounds for fucking everything.
On paper, it sounds excellent to have a system that's more stable but also fresh. But you'll find it isn't stable enough that you can forget about doing things like rolling back often.
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>>733773943
I'd define it more as chore and a pain in the ass than an achievement. For example one of the problems last time was that Linux ships with outdated kernel header files, for some reason. When stuff doesn't work the solution is pasting commands into the console until it gets fixed, which may or may not break more things along the way. It's a piece of shit.
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>>733771082
Out of sync repo that soft brick my DE because of version mismatch. Then again I think that's on me because of slow download speed on their mirror and I just cancel the update midway and run rate-mirror thingy.
Then again, I only cherry-pick their packages on my arch installation so I can't comment on the whole experience
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Non-meme distros for gaming are the following :
>fedora
>mint
>ubuntu
>arch (cachyos if you're retarded)
Bazzite will likely not last the year
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Install Gentoo
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>>733774408
Honestly that's kinda weird. I always thought what they did with their repo was just basically "is that an update to a base package? just run it through with the optimizations" for most packages which shouldn't cause much of a sync issue.
What I found some time ago is that they metapackage some things, like nvidia drivers.
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>>733762797
It's over... looks you you'll have to suffer windows then
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Bazzite is based on Fedora and its "immutable" so I'm not really sure how good an option it will be overall as compared to something that is based on Arch or Debian/Ubuntu. I mean, maybe its okay but its been a long time since I've bothered with anything based on Redhat/Fedora thanks to RPM format dependency hell but its probably different now. More recently I see anons talking about how they let some troon cancel a maintainer out of his position on the project so that's unfortunate if it was true and not just culture war nonsense. In any case, I suggest something like
>EndeavourOS
This is basically mainline Arch, but with a graphical installer and some sane DE defaults you can choose. I still think there is some value in actually building Arch directly following the install guide as its helpful to see how your system is 'put together' on Linux, but if you just want to get going EndeavourOS is a good place to start while also being compatible with Arch repos and not just AUR.
>CachyOS
Similar to EndeavourOS, CachyOS is Arch based but has some kernel and other optimizations made for performance. You can do all this on Endeavour or Arch itself too but its nice to have it all bundled. Especially beneficial if you have relatively recent hardware (ie a Zen4 CPU or newer they advertise they compile with performance flags to take advantage of its feature etc).
>PopOS
A Debian/Ubuntu based desktop distro by the System76 crew, its all around viable and fairly up to date, but uses the Debian style packaging system and is NOT rolling release, so if you were used to Arch having the latest bleeding edge things in the default repos, its a little different here. This is not better or worse, just different. They're also working on a new custom DE called Cosmic
>LinuxMint
Another good option, with many of the similar Debian/Ubuntu elements as described above. Also created the Cinnamon DE

Out of room, but many good options. Read a bit to smooth the process
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>>733774737
I only use my PC to browse the web and play games. Nothing else. No productivity. AMD GPU+CPU. What would you suggest.
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>>733774709
>10 LTSC always 'just werks'
"Suffer" is a strong word. I'll give Linux another go in 2032, maybe it'll actually work by then.
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>>733772938
works of my machine
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>>733773930
Mint is the most stable shit you can get as long as your hardware isn't very very recent (ie current gen).
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>>733772938
I have been using linux for 2 years with multiple machines and I have never encountered any of the issues you mention, that's quite peculiar!
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>>733763000
every single one of you linux faggots are trannys
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>>733775198
Only straight white men can handle gentoo
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>>733774903
Nobara, hands down. It's essentially plug-and-play.
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>>733775016
5700x3D / RX 6700 XT
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>>733775648
Yeah well it should work perfectly fine, I had a similar combo (same gpu) for about a year with mint and I encountered almost no issue. It's the RDNA4 cards that have common issues with older kernels.
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>be me
>be 3 years ago
>want to make the jump
>go for Mint
>Xfce
>it just werks
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Is there any distro that isn’t filled with israeli spyware and backdoors?
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>>733776081
the only 100% secure software is the one you personally made
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>>733774737
>More recently I see anons talking about how they let some troon cancel a maintainer out of his position on the project so that's unfortunate if it was true and not just culture war nonsense.
It's more like that was an excuse to boot him out rather than the reason itself. He backpedaled like a bitch on that. There's no reason to trust the lead on Bazzite though (MS employee).
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LMAO we got another one lads
>>733763000
>any linux
>not meme
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should i install steamos or cachy on my rog ally x?
my desktop is cachy btw
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>>733771621
Never seen ads in windows in my life. This is on you using a prebuild and letting all the preinstalled stuff hang in there.
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>>733776306
Install gentoo
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>>733776149
So temple os?
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>>733776306
what would be the point of cachy?
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>>733775568
See Nobara would have been great if:
1. Their community wasn't stuck on discord
2. "No don't update like this update like that or it breaks" wasn't a fucking thing, I'll use dnf the way I want you bitch ass nigga
3. Its update distribution schedule wasn't retarded. It almost seems arbitrary. Here's a fucking dump of packages every month, what's that? You can no longer boot? Whoopsie poopsie, should have used the piece of shit that is timeshift.
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>>733762797
What issues are you having? Bazzite works fine across the 20 different machines me, my family and my friends own. It's literally the first time "Linux easy mode" existed.

>>733764356
Nobara and Bazzite have GNOME editions.

>>733764616
SteamOS and Bazzite are almost no different. The only difference is SteamOS doesn't have a package manager so you can't "side-load" "native" applications like you would on Bazzite. This makes it less usable on a PC and more appropriate for a handheld or couch gaming console.
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>>733776351
I believe you aren't Terry Davis so no
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>>733769398
There is a reason why Arch is so popular for home computers.
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>>733776408
Performance and installing shit that is annoying to deal with on immutable
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>>733773807
ProtonDB not gamestore. A lot of games dont natively support linux but run perfectly out of the box through proton and steam autoenables it if you are on linux
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>>733776475
I just figured the Jews would be too afraid to use it.
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>>733764356
Before switching to GNOME, consider it shits itself with Wine on Wayland, if you use it.
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>>733766018
Eh windows just works. You are only hurting yourself by trying to use Linux and be a contrarian.
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>>733776310
>he thinks I have a prebuilt
I have been building my own PCs since early 2000s. I have never had a bloated version of win10 or 11 installed on any of my devices.

>Never seen ads in windows in my life.
Take a screenshot of your start menu.
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>>733776439
Well, Nobara is developed by what, 3 dudes? That's to be expected.
>timeshift
Why even bother with this garbage, it lets you choose the previous kernel when booting.
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>>733762797
>DUDE YOU HAVE TO GET RID OF WINDOWS NOW AND INSTALL BALLZINOUGHT, IT IS OPENSOURCE
>install it and nothing works at all
>LOL WTF WHY DID YOU INSTALL BALLZINOUGHT AND NOT TROONOS
linuxfags are so fucking gay
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note to self
never use btrfs and just use ext4
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>>733776614
>Well, Nobara is developed by what, 3 dudes? That's to be expected.
They keep telling people otherwise. "No there's an actual team involved the one guy distro thing is an old meme!"
>it lets you choose the previous kernel
As if that's the only thing that ever breaks
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>>733776547
I have gone through the suggestions and I have decided to go with CachyOS with Cosmic
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>>733776614
>Nobara is developed by what, 3 dudes? That's to be expected.
I expected an OS that everybody claims is superior to Windows to just work.
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>>733776475
mel gibson should make a movie where he plays terry davis
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>>733776673
If you don't need HDR that's probably the most sensible option right now
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>>733776653
Did it corrupt itself on you?
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>>733774326
>typing sudo apt/dnf install package name in terminal is hard
It is quite literally easier than doing so on fucking windows with installer. And updating is magnitudes easier because you type update and upgrade commands and it updates ALL the applications you have installed.
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>>733762797
This is a very organic thread
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>>733776547
wine wayland works perfectly fine on GNOME.
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>>733776629
Windows is a piece of trash and you should get rid of it as running malware on your pc is generally not a good practice.
>b-but muh linux hard
The faster you learn to use it the sooner you wont have problems with it
>b-b-but muh out of the box slop
Maybe the whole computer then just isnt for you? There are a lot pf other easier hobbies, you should try those
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>>733767650
Them being woke affects the functionality. Bazzite kicked their only dev in charge of the handheld daemon, aka game mode because the dev was a transphobic chud or whatever. That's the main reason people used bazzite.
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might as well ask here
how do i backup shit i installed from AUR?
i wanna backup citron emu i have installed
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so when installing packages should i do pacman -S or pacman -Syu or pacman -Su
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>>733776918
I have no such good experience.
If I enable VRR on GNOME with wine on wayland, it'll decide to halve framerates (what's displayed rather than what's reported) for no good reason.
I can enable VRR on plasma with wine on wayland (and also on hyprland for that matter) and no such problem happens. I can have the same game use VRR at something like 75fps and not look like 38. So something's broken with GNOME.
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>>733777126
paru -Syu --noconfirm
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>>733773720
Just use Debian/Arch/Fedora or SteamOS if you're a Valve Cultist
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>>733777126
-S for installing packages/programs, -Syu is for full system/packages upgrade
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>>733777153
oh, mb, thought you were asking for system updates
if you're on cachyos you have a package installer with a browser, just use that
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>>733773720
>like if
Ola Windows turdie shill
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>>733777096
If you mean the installation packages and such, you can probably just find them on your .cache/yay or .cache/paru or whatever the fuck. *
If you mean what's already installed well, that's a system backup. If you have btrfs you can use quick snapshots to back that up (maybe even specifically by creating a configuration that targets a subvolume indicating folders where those things get installed) but generally people just back up most of the system folders except /home where things don't (usually) get installed.
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>>733776653
Really? For me it's the opposite. ext4 and ntfs get unrecoverably corrupted if you have a failing SSD or flash storage while btrfs always at least let me recover data without corruption.
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>>733777126
man pacman
RTFM
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Use mint
you can even play halo online
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>>733777287
btrfs got some serious patches (even with it being slow, which was one of the main complaints) but it's known to have some corruption issues.
However it's no XFS, which I've seen more people have trouble with. XFS always seemed like a meme to me (causes trouble with really old games and inodes, cannot be shrinked, doesn't have some of the good features of btrfs, difficult to recover). All I've seen about is "it's fast, look at benchmarks". As though ext4 and btrfs aren't.
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>>733777283
ty bro, do i just backup this file?
>citron-2026.02.1-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
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>>733777146
>vrr
this has nothing to do with wayland though or wine for that matter.
but you are correct that vrr is still experimental on GNOME until v50.
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>>733777387
If he's having trouble with the average latest distro he's gonna have more trouble on Mint, where he's going to have to fuck around to get latest Mesa/kernel and the compositor in Cinnamon (Muffin) is actively fucking his performance up.
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>>733777639
If it doesn't have to do anything specifically with wine on wayland, why is the behavior different with wine on xwayland -or- gamescope, within the same proton runner, same drivers, same game, same settings, same fucking practically everything?
There is a way in which wine on wayland interacts with the compositor that makes it so when VRR is enabled, there's something like an active frameskip. In such a way that if you were to bind the gdctl command that toggles VRR on or off to a keyboard shortcut, the moment you toggle it off the game goes back to smooth (but without VRR, so at the max refresh rate of the monitor).
Maybe GNOME 50 fixes this, but it's on beta right now.
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>>733777126
pacman -sybau works best
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>>733777638
Yes that works as well. Pacman can install such files directly.
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>>733777024
nta but imma just use windows that came on my pc and every game is made for lol
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>>733763000
Maybe he is not interested in transitioning.
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>>733777946
>vm
epic falseflag
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>>733764356
>gnome
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>>733778048
Unsurprising but really, this is not just a GNOME foundation thing.
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>>733766040
Then why has the number of Loonix users grown over 200% in the last year?
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>>733778178
Wow now it has 200 users.
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>>733777934
They are replacing that thing with copilot soon
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lmao another retard groomed by linuxtrannies
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>>733778220
Don't you want to install copilot 12 agentic long term release formerly known as windows?
What's it lacking?
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>>733778128
You should look into him and the gnome group more then.
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>INSTALL LINUX IT'S BETTER THAN WINDOWS
which distro do i install?
>not that one
>not that one
>not that one
>only fags use that one
>tranny distro
>gay
>fag
>just use windows
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>>733778178
It's 20%, not 200%.
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>>733778278
Oh I do, but I don't just stop at that, I don't have tunnel vision with this sorta shit.
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>>733766040
It’s comfy
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>>733763137
You should have been into computers when you were a kid and learned Linux for the hell of it before you finished high school but you were too busy playing faggot games for console babies and remain computer illiterate to this day.
You don't belong on PC at all, let alone Linux.
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>>733778310
Gentoo
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>>733762797
I've been on bazzite for nearly 2 years now on my 2nd PC, i have yet to find a game in my library(or pirated) that doesnt work
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I don't get why you'd go for something like Bazzite over Mint as your first distro.
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>Half of my games don't work
You know funny enough saying this means you own maybe like 8 games total.
And even then semantically it could be argued the games that "don't work" do because they're designed to shit themselves and die if they're running on linux and failing to do that would mean that they weren't actually working.
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>>733762797
Wait until steamos gets released for desktop computers. Or dont, i think u can already install it. U probably need AMD gpu

Personally i use 2 pcs and a kvm switch, one with linux, one with windows purely for gaming i use it as a game console pretty much
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>>733778310
>which distro I install
The one you like
>but idk about them
Just read the summary of pros and cons, take a look at screenshots and then decide for yourself
>I have a problem
Claude or forums for fix
>wrong distro
Retarded people rather, every distro is ok, just was designed with some specific direction in mind, you will have to do some work if you want something outside that direction
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>>733778472
x11
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>>733777916
[Serious]
What does that do? I barely used Arch and know what Syu does, but googling pacman sybau only finds me reddit/tiktok memes.
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>>733778750
Run man pacman
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>>733774903
You will be fine with most but for gaming I suggest either Arch or the two Arch derivatives (Cachy, Endeavour) I listed simply because gaming often benefits from quicker updates of some driver or other software aspects
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>>733778781
not on linux right
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>>733778807
What the fuck are you saying
Run man man
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>>733778750
Sybau is short for shut your bitch ass up
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>>733778624
>Wait until steamos gets released for desktop computers. Or dont, i think u can already install it. U probably need AMD gpu
SteamOS does fuck all that the average recommend distro cannot in order to get games working. All it is is just a version where the priority is getting valve hardware to perform well and be reasonably stable (it being based on Arch doesn't mean it's up to date) and a bunch of bullshit to make it seamlessly switch between a desktop and a gamescope only session. If his games won't work on bazzite, his games won't work on steamOS.
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>>733778485
NTA
I used protondb's Steam Library checker thing to see what games would be trouble when I install cachyos next month.
Like 4 out of 300+ games were bronze or worse. Maybe 50 were Silver.
The only game that was borked was Destiny 2 because bungo's anticheat is ass.

I don't know how anyone is perpetuating this myth that lots of games don't work on Linux.
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I just use Ubuntu
it works for me and my needs
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>>733779045
Proud of you
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>>733778640
>every distro is ok
Nta. Objectively there are distros that are better then others.Zorin is the best for gaming.
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>>733779042
lots of people only play live service trash
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>>733778857
sorry I meant: I'm not using linux right now, so I don't have pacman or man commands to check on a terminal.
I'm googling it. And found the b arg alone but doesn't really make sense. Also couldn't find the -a arg by itself.
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>>733773383
And yet since Linux isn't bloatware filled with spyware like Windows your performance will probably improve because the OS isn't hogging 12 GB of RAM for no fucking reason.
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The fuck is a Bazzite?
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>>733778903
Oh... so it was just a reddit meme.
thanks.
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>>733779080
Because sybau means shut your bitch ass up
So instead of asking people on fucking 4chan what your package managers flags are learn to use man you colossal tit
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>>733763000
Bazzite is really funny because a guy doing the heavy lifting got booted from the "dev community" for saying transphobic things in another discord so the gay furries kicked him. now Bazzite cant keep up
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>>733778750
Pretty sure he's a dumb teenager abbreviating shut your bitch ass up.
That being said if pacman did parse -s as -S (Sync) it'd hit ybau as options for syncing which would
>y: Refresh your list of packages
>b: Attempt to set a different database location which wasn't supplied so nothing
>a: does nothing with the Sync function
>u: Attempt to update all packages that are out of date
Or in short probably do nothing since pacman -s is an invalid function (probably)
>>733779106
Fedora meme fork that comes with steam that tries to act like a Steam Deck.
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The amount of shills defending your PC getting appropriated by spyware and retards lifting microjeet's shit-smeared balls ITT is simply incredible.
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>>733779129
>bitch ass
Didn't expect 4chan to be so full of niggers that their ebonics were considered common knowledge.
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>>733779106
An attempt to clone SteamOS for desktop. A pretty mid one, I have to admit. But it is essentially Linux with training wheels for 70 IQ "hurr durr what if I break something" grugs.
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>>733779185
I mean dude, you're on /v/ in 2026, all the reasonable people left so you're left with jannies samefagging trying to run psyops against things they don't like or shills that are paying to advertise to nobody.
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The only thing stopping me switching my main desktop (and the only one I have still running windows) is losing access to the Affinity programmes. GIMP is hardly a replacement and the current 'solutions' to get it running are all extreme cope that barely work.
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>>733779063
Yeas, but every distro is workable. You can absolutely play games on ubuntu, it will just take more commitment to make it work than on gaming distros where everything is pre-installed
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>>733779185
>spyware
linux has that too
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>>733774686
More like not all their mirrors are not updated at the same time (usually just a few hours diff), so when I changed the mirror in the middle of a big update (usually KDE meta package), I got a stale mirror and stuck on partial upgrade. It's fatal to have a version mismatch of kwin and workspace lol.
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>>733779337
If (and only if) you have an nvidia GPU, the current appimage you can find for Affinity V3 on mattscreative or whatever the fuck his name is github does work relatively well with OpenCL working.
If you have an AMD GPU you're kind of out of luck there though unless you enjoy no HW acceleration (trust me, with RAW editing it's a fucking slog)
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>switch to linux a couple months ago
>constant problems
>pissed off
>someone says that distro (mint) sucks
>switch to cachyos over the weekend
>way better experience in pretty much every way with only one thing not working out of the box
>games running noticably better too
I feel lied to by all those linux youtubers recommending mint
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>>733777126
You do
pacman -S package
If that gives an error, you do
pacman -Syu package
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>>733779478
That's interesting. I have a 5080 but had to put my 7900 XTX back in this windows machine because Affinity was completely fucked on all 5000 series cards, at least a few months back when I last checked.
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>>733779474
One of the things I noticed (but I didn't particularly test in other arch based distros) is that updates would sometimes stall. This has been happening to me for the last 2 fucking years, fairly frequently. So it'll get to the usual pacman downloading package list that fills up and it's all zeroes for like 10 seconds or sometimes more until it fails. And I can create mirrorlists and whatever the fuck, use different mirrors, it just happens fucking always.
It's kinda sad because on debian based distros I have a blazing fast process that never stalls, zypper is now decently fast as well, and even dnf which used to suck absolute fucking nigger dick on this is now relatively fast (I guess they did some things to dnf5).
I wonder if it happens on Arch. Hell I wonder if I should switch to Arch, it's not like I don't know how to apply practically any tweak cachyOS does (even the fucking btrfs snapper setup)
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>>733779397
The comparison is retarded because on linux you have exclusively opt-in telemetry on SOME distros which anonymises your data if you want to use it and windows just sends screenshots of what you’re doing every couple of minutes to the server with your windows username attached to it and monitors everything you do in order to pin this info to you as a real person. And if you go out of your way and run some scripts to disable this, next windows update will revert everything
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>>733762797
You got /g/roomed
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>>733779620
Mint is granny Linux, anyone can use it. It probably keeps being recommended to Windows users because it's both ancient so everyone knows it exists, and most Windows users portray themselves as tech illiterate cretins who struggle to send an e-mail.
CachyOS would not be ok for someone like that.
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>>733779620
Mint is a huge improvement over Ubuntu which is what most free notebooks given to thirdworlders come preinstalled with. So for the kind of people who only use their low-spec PCs for school homework and social media, Mint is the greatest thing ever.
If you have a modern computer, something optimized for high performance will obviously work better for your use-case.
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>>733779620
99% of the issue is mint being stuck on x11.
>better performance on cachy
doubt. benchmarks put it within percentiles of everybody else.
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>>733779639
I don't know if I'd say it's worth it though.
The tradeoff I've seen (I have a 4070S and a 9070XT) is that on the nvidia side, I couldn't use the max refresh rate on my monitor + adaptive sync without it shitting itself and there were minor wayland artifacts, and DX12 performance was some fucking dogshit (but I guess they're fixing that?). So I had a better experience with shit that needed OpenCL but as for the rest it wasn't a good experience.
BUT, with the 9070xt, despite having a nice wayland experience, despite having no normal display issues and generally good non-RT performance, I'm still dealing with almost as broken HDR anyways (which I thought it'd be fixed), some weird fucking input lag in some titles I can't for the love of me understand, what I mentioned about openCL sucking cock, and I'm afraid of trying to use overdrive (overlocking/undervolting), because I had the 9070xt crash a lot even if I didn't change settings with that (to be fair, undervolting nvidia on linux is barely a fucking thing). So it's more mixed of an experience than I thought.
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for me, it's nobara
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Ever since switching to linux I have been totally blocked from posting on 4chinz from my desktop due to "abuse".
I can phonepost from my own wifi so thats clearly bullshit.
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>>733780156
spoof your user-agent
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>>733780156
Enable cookies?
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>>733780030
cute f1
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>PC Gay Man
>in 2026

lmao
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Just fucking use arch. You're going to be using the terminal and learning how your computer actually fucking works anyway so you may as well go through the process that'll actually have you learn this stuff and not tie you to some fucking derivative thats going to go up in flames in 5 months. Your choices are arch, debian, gentoo or fedora. Cachy, bazzite, mint, it's a coat of paint that youre going to have to peel off at some point anyway.
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>>733769398
It's very basic.
Instead of pretending everything works or should work, Arch gives you a state of fucking learn to do some shit yourself. Once you're in that mental space instead of expecting the maintainers to do everything for you, it's easier to find out how and why something's not behaving the way you want.
I feel sorry for new people being shoved into atomic distros
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>fake thread
>fake engagement
>just a vehicle for microsoft to associate negative sentiment with linux online
when are jannies going to clean it up
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>>733769398
Lol this was pretty much my exact same experience
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>>733780030
I actually like the theme nobara applies over Breeze
What I didn't like was this >>733765187
Just give me a rolling release that is designed to be rolling release instead of this Fedora box
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>>733780548
>just study linux for hundreds of hours before using your desktop
most people just want to open their browser.
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>>733780736
ChromeOS might be more your speed, faggot
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>>733780736
>hundreds
Couple of days MAX for everyone with IQ over 80 to get the basics
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>>733780661
See >>733779331
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>>733763000
Linux users truly are vegans of IT.
If someone tries your bullshit diet and has problems, you don't help them and instead tell them to try this other linux diet.
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so wait arch requires you to play a game of pac-man just to install software?
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>>733772429
You have the issue of putting stuff on your desktop like a retard. You cant just hit super key & type the name in lazy nog?
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>>733780709
ikwym
been using for like a year iirc and to avoid breaking things I just don't update as soon as the updater starts sending the notifications, I usually wait a day and check what is being said in their discord lmao
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>>733780364
This might sound retarded but what is the best way to learn linux? You just pop open the manual and read it? Im just using it and occasionally learning stuff via troubleshooting problems and following old forum posts for fixes.
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I appreciate windows' existence. It gives knuckle dragging apes that cant lift a finger of effort to bettering themselves for their own benefit a boiling pot of curry shit that they willingly eat out of their own stubbornness and learned helplessness
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>>733762797
Can't express into words how much I hate this immutable meme. This is not how Linux is meant to be used. The babyfication of the system is only creating more problems, on top of giving mewcomers a very wrong idea of how anything works.
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>>733780364
The three distros you mention as coats of paint are fundamentally different.
Bazzite is not a coat of paint on Fedora, it's an atomic distro, heavily touched, and heavily against the user reverting any of that unless they learn how to build their own fucking thing on github through ublue templates. It's a locked little cuckbox.
Mint is not a coat of pait on Debian, it's heavily touched Ubuntu (which is already a big fucking detachment from Debian, although LMDE exists) that reverts the snap retardation and adds their own half assed janky ass DE.
CachyOS is more like a coat of paint on Arch, and most of the modifications it has can be done much more easily (and reverted) than the other two, and 99.9% of what exists in the Arch wiki applies to it.
So I cannot put Cachy in the same category. There's very few reasons to urge a user to use Arch over Cachy in this day and age unless they have really old hardware or they are really obsessed with bloat.
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>>733763467
He didn't leave, he was forced out. And he was the only one that had any actual programming experience.
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>>733780831
if someone tries being a vegan by eating nothing but lettuce then telling them they should try a different approach to the same idea makes perfect sense
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>>733781000
>You just pop open the manual and read it?
lol no. that's an easy way to drown in useless shit.
what you're doing is the way to go, just use it and knowledge will come naturally.
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>>733780920
This is probably the most sane piece of advice regarding updating on fedora and fedora based distros. Specially major releases, you want to wait for at least a fucking month or two after F44 releases to switch to it or whatever.
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>>733780831
>dont try to hell them
There are forums. There is claude. Every question they might have has been answered millions of times already. 99% of problems new people have with linux can be solved by copying their post and pasting it into a search bar. The infuriating part of melanated windows shills (((trying))) linux is the fact that they absolutely have something they donned know how to do on windows, and if they need to do that they will go and fucking google their problem, but the moment they even look at linux distro everything must be spoonfed to them or they will cry how shit the OS is
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>>733778048
Why can't I find anything on google?
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>>733781000
For me, I had a goal. I wanted to set up a web and media server. Pick a mainline distribution, any one. Then define our goals and investigate the process of getting those going. If you want a good way of going about get chatGPT to run you by the basics of file directory structure, desktop environment software and it's various standards, how linux handles executables and process and then if ou have any identified gaps in your knowledge just consult you AI to go a little further in depth until you are satisfied l. Just make sure to have obtainable goals
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>>733778310
The main thing to watch out for is whether the distro relies on systemd. Systemd is part of the OS init system(the first process, which loads everything else eventually). There are many other init flavors, and for the most part each is dedicated solely to sitting above everything else and then launching other components as needed. With systemd though, someone got the bright idea that they should combine the functions of Windows' directX and svchost, and cram them into the init. This does streamline things, and many "easy" distros use it(Mint, Cachy, etc). However it also means the "control the entire system with absolute god privileges" process is also now loaded with a shitload of potentially insecure code. I'll take that a bit further and say that I'll bet my last dollar that every state-level actor has compromised systemd in multiple ways, and the vaunted Linux resistance vs malware doesn't exist on such distros; it's just a matter of time for the small-time players and thieves to get in on the action.

Unlike most other chunks of the OS, systemd is not the kind of thing you can easily rip out and replace, so if you decide the drawbacks are unacceptable you'll need to find a distro that uses one of the other proven inits instead. Or just look more closely at the distro that interests you, there are several that have a whole pile of init choices letting you pick what you need.
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>>733780861
No you just have to run the command and the computer plays pacman for you and installs the packages when it runs out of quarters
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>>733763760
yep this is the way, until Microshill makes it impossible to debotnet their OS I'm just gonna keep doing it
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>>733763760
>don't learn to swim until the ss winjeet completely sinks
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>>733762797
WHY WOULD YOU EVER INSTALL ANYTHING 4CHAN TOLD YOU TO INSTALL ON YOUR COMPUTER?
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>>733781076
To me from his blogpost it seemed like he was in charge of kernel maintenance and HHD, that's about it.
I don't know why "he got kicked because of the playtroon thing" is so widespread, that seems to me like an excuse they used to push him out from his own account other than anything else.
His whole "yeah with playtroon I meant playtron + gooner" thing is so fucking pussified I don't know what to say. Just say you dislike the tranny noncery in there.
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>KDE
>Based on Fedora
holy fucking shit
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>>733781531
>best desktop environment
>based on best distro
Based
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Resident Evil 0 is still broken on steam deck btw. There is no fix lmao.
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>>733781289
>it's just a matter of time for the small-time players and thieves to get in on the action.
I've been hearing this for over 10 years, and data theft or hacking attacks against run-of-the-mill Linux users can be counted on the fingers of one hand. Most of them occurred due to phishing and total carelessness, such as not setting rights and running everything as admin, rather than through a systemd exploit.
Most of Linux-oriented malware targets servers and data farms rather than individual users, anyway. No one's coming to steal your furry porn stash.
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>>733762797
>Bazzite
Literally a tranny distro
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>>733777146
>So something's broken with GNOME.
GNOME is broken by design.
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>>733763127
>it breaks all the time when you update
That's just every linux distro. It's a meme to trick people into installing Linux. It's like telling people to buy a jack stand from harbor freight. Hundreds of people die a year from being underneath a car using HF jack stands.
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>>733781779
works on my machine.
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>>733781779
I've been using GNOME for years and haven't had a single problem. I am genuinely convinced that GNOME haters haven't tried the DE or are tinkertrannies that need settings to tinker with
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i set up Nobara on a separate drive over the weekend
So far its been great. Only thing thats annoying is when it boots it sits on a grey screen with 3 dots for a bit and once it gets to the login screen it takes a minute for my keyboard to work
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>>733781678
How do I open the full size of ts on an iToddler device
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>>733781821
>>733781887
Do you have thumbnails on the file picker yet?
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>>733781943
Uh, yeah?
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>>733781924
I don't know. Download the image and zoom?
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>>733781097
That analogy doesn't make sense since OP is using a distro and didnt just install one "driver"
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>>733781981
Nah never works, same as opening image in a separate window. Found the disable mobile view button on the bottom, it worked
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>>733781174
Thank you for proving my point.
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>>733763000
FPBP.

I like Bazzite, but it's a toy compared to Arch and more mature distros.

The ONLY reason to use it is because you're too dumb to spin the holo Steam Arch fork.
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>>733781943
there is no usecase for that
Just keep using windows if you care so much.
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>>733781943
yeah they reworked the file picker into being a nautilus extension.
these days everything goes through portals so you can use whatever file picker you want anyways.
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> ctrl+f "suse"
> 0 results
Why?
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>>733763000
>Arch
meme
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>>733763127
Install gentoo
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>>733781531
usecase for seething about KDE?
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>>733765173
>Linux is easy and can do everything that Windows can
>as long as that "everything" is Linux shitposting on a Bulgarian fish breeding forum or posting desktop screenshots on Reddit
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>>733779661
You're talking about cachy, right? They have their own fork of rate-mirrors that works pretty well. But yeah, their mirrors are whatever some contributors donate and sometimes it just sucks
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>>733762797
Sorry you fell for for the Linux Youtube grifters who recommend whatever is the distro of the week(CachyOS right now).
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>>733782141
I've had thumbnails for as long as I can remember, why do KDE users bring up outdated issues?
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>>733778048
HOLY SHIT IS HE A FUCKING GENERAL ATOMICS MQ-1 PREDATOR???? BASED
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>>733781640
But linuxfags told me every game works on the steam deck you just need to install wine and proton?
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Mint just works for me. I completely removed the windows partition now from my laptop. I would test fedora kde but I won't distro hop for now.
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>>733762797
>half my games dont work
literally the only thing you have to do is add any .exe to steam as a non steam game and that's pretty much it. proton does all the work for you
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>>733782524
Clicking 2 buttons is too much to ask these days
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>>733776653
I have a partition with my system in ext4 and one for data I will read instead of writing most of the time in btrfs like games, pictures and music. It just works. I think I will be hard for me to destroy it somehow
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Guys I am going to make my own operating system and it’ll probably be the best one ever I just need to uhhhh learn to program real quick…
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>>733762797
No one cares. This isn't a tech support forum or your blog.
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>>733782870
>cue to anon in 10 years running over CIA agents
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it's harder to get games to work on linux when you get them from fitgirl repacks instead of steam
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>>733780364
I don't get the Gentoo one. Nobody would have to do that level of autistic tweaking. Arch also made it pretty easyt with Archinstall
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>>733782781
>unironically believing this retarded website
That shit doesn't work, there's a reason the game is still listed as unsupported by valve.
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>>733782870
they glow (You) shine
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>>733782870
just have AI make you an OS, what could go wrong.
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>>733782938
They're 100% correct though. I was able to play Spyro reignited because you needed to disable avx instructions in openssl for some reason and the commentors give you the env variable to do it.
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>>733782931
What distro does Air Shakur use?
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>>733782781
Have you actually tried it? It doesnt work for some reason.
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>>733782162
It's not the solid it seems to be.
It's not like some people will tell you "it's boring so nobody has a reason to talk about it".
Actually, it's not that decent.
Right now it's on a transitioning phase of "let's get rid of this deprecated shit and replace everything YaST with something else that we think might work". They're doing weird changes that made people want to quit.
For instance, grub2-bls. They switched over to that and poorly explained the whole process.
Another thing is that like Fedora they have to rely on a third party repository or flatpaks to make codecs work. Problem is Packman is not as tight with openSUSE as rpmfusion is with Fedora, so updates get fucky more often.
Their slowroll release (which the whole point of is to delay packages for "more stability") is actually less stable than TW.
Their other projects are a bit of a mess. Kalpa is a one bearded guy project that some people love but it's been in Alpha for god knows how long. Aeon is pushed by a moron who will argue with you on reddit about how insecure using a third party repository is and why flatpaks and containers is all you should ever trust.
The only things I like about openSUSE are:
1. Transactional updates can be set up on a non immutable distribution (however this system is kinda shit if you enable third party repos, you have to avoid pingponging between vendors)
2. Pioneer of a btrfs snapshot + rollback setup that just fucking works as it is supposed to (and they focus a lot on not breaking the thing, I mean they got this working even with systemd-boot, which I thought couldn't be done), only CachyOS seems to achieve something like this
3. Unlike Fedora a lot less of their packages are stale and their state of "brokenness" on TW is not dissimilar from arch, so not way too unstable
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>ur distro shit mine good: the thread part 1488
not this crap again
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>>733783043
Good for you, it doesn't work either way.
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>>733778364
this. disgusting how many normalfaggots are on this board.
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>>733779620
Mint is just Ubuntu but green and using cinnamon. It won't install wine or anything that run windows games out of the box for you. Steam should work perfectly fine though.
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The only issue I had was learning about disk formats and needing to properly format the drive my games loaded from into ext4 from ntfs
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There's something I will never reach to understand.
The official method of distribution Valve uses for Steam on their official website is a debian package.
Any other method of distributing Steam itself is unofficial stuff. Including the Flatpak (probably a reason why it's so fucking ass). Hell there's even an AppImage version of Steam.
Their OS, SteamOS, is Arch based though. Why is this?
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>>733782060
You can also just open image in new tab and change the -m.jpg to either just .jpg or .png
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>>733783591
ubuntu was the go to distro on linux for a long time, and steam machines originally were ubuntu based.
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You guys need to get your narrative straight
Do you want more people to use Linux or keep it a cool kids club
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>>733782931
Gentoo is all about choice but that comes at the cost of having to compile your own packages for the most part, i honestly think its a better distro than Arch.
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>>733783550
If you have your steam games in a NTFS partition it's very likely for them to crash on steam. I learned that the hard way.
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>>733768374
>looks like most of it is a user problem
>95% of the list is security vulnerabilities, missing or incomplete systems/features, nonexistent hardware compatibility, and overall universal instability in both kernel and distros
Your definition of "user problem" is off
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>>733783776
I want computer illiterate retards to go back to consoles
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>>733783776
all linux issues are now external
nvidia, anticheat, adobe shit
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>>733772474
Old games running well are actually more impressive than new ones because old games tend to become broken on new Windows versions and drivers. This is one thing that linux apparently shits on windows for, since you don't need to go on pcgamingwiki to fix old games on linux.
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>>733783819
Back when I still dual booted I just softlinked the compatdata folder on the NTFS drive to the one in my main stream folder and that fixed it
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>>733771690
So then gayems don't work then. Got it.
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>>733784030
That's because windows compatibility mode sucks. Wine is simply better.
If a game needs compatibility mode to run on modern windows it will probably be less hassle to play on linux.
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>>733780886
You sound upset.
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>>733783808
That sounds like a nightmare to configure, to be honest.
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>>733784030
That's partially true. What linux relies on for a lot of these games is not too different from what windows does (wrappers and compatibility layers). It just so happens that something like dxvk can be used on Windows as well, and people had their success with it.
Another thing is the whole NTSync patch where people pretended that before it things just worked, but now we have the patch, things now just work (in regards to some older titles). So which one was it? Nobody knows. That fucking patch made a lot of youtubers talk about it like it was a performance boost all across the board when it wasn't a big deal at all.
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>>733784024
Well if you want more companies to support Linux, it needs more users. Which would mean normies. Which would mean either making a distro that is as idiotproof as Windows or as trendy as MacOS. For Adobe it would likely mean the business sector would need to use Linux more.
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>>733772474
Games were better back then. Though I'm not sure why he has the "kid-friendly" version of Spider-Man 2 installed, that one sucked and was a bait and switch for people that bought it back then.
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>>733780831
If you can't do basic research you are a npc that should install win11
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>>733783043
>>733783252
>Anon says game doesn't work with Proton experimental
>Linux troon says it works for [unrelated game]

Why does this happen so often?
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>>733784505
>Well if you want more companies to support Linux, it needs more users.
it's happening, things like this just take time. gog and nvidia for example are hiring linux devs.
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>>733783819
It's way more weird than that, I have my games on NTFS archives because I dual boot windows and linux, so basically, pirated games will work out of the box both in the windows partition and the linux partition by adding them on steam as non-steam games and launching via proton, nothing else needed, but legit bought games, installed on a ntfs partition will NOT work by using proton in the linux partition, instead they will require a fresh installation, doesn't matter if you install it on a ntfs, ext or whatever else, then they will work, it's mega weird.
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>>733784736
Well thats good to hear
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>>733784505
>a distro that is as idiotproof as Windows or as trendy as MacOS.
Ubuntu is literally that
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>>733784779
Disease 1 was always crashing on boot. It's a very old game. It just stopped after I moved to ext4. Anyway I nuked my windows 10 partition now. My Windows partition was kind to me to stop working without me doing anything lmao so I ended it's suffering.
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>>733784954
>Disease 1
I mean Disgaea 1... Wtf
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>>733785021
disease 1 sounds like a better game
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>>733784832
well its not doing a good enough job
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>>733784832
not really no, ubuntu is for businesses and servers. they don't really care about regular consumers.
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>>733783776
I don't give a flying shit about who uses Linux or not
You have to be some retarded consumer drone to care about "brand" wars, I will point out lies by said drones if possible however
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>PC
Windows.
>TV PC
Ubuntu
>Handheld
Deck

I'll switch the PC from Windows to something else at some point. I feel I've got too much shit to worry about fucking up before I make the swap.

Why Bazzite though, OP? I like Ubuntu, but it seems ugly as sin. I don't think I'd have bothered with it without AI answering & helping me out with all my questions.
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>>733785232
What the fuck are you talking about lmao
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works on my machine :^)
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>>733785363
canonical is a business, they make money from selling support. (you) don't matter to them.
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>>733785102
I thought /v/ liked the good old PS2 games.
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So what games DON'T work on Linux?
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>>733762797
Nvidia huh
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>>733785417
The entire system was designed to be as simple as windows, with no command line interaction required to use and is presented with a UI that mirrors macOS, I don't think you have any clue of what you are talking about, bot.
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>>733785506
games with anti cheat is a coin toss. as for the rest 99% runs.
check https://www.protondb.com/ for specifics.
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>>733785506
Multiplayer games that are forcefully broken by the devs, proprietary and kernel level anticheat doesn't work on linux nor it works through proton so games like battlefield will not run, however this is by will of the dev, for example helldivers 2 uses a kernel level anticheat, the anticheat doesn't work on linux but the game runs just fine on the steamdeck and other distros.
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>>733785556
Oh, that's lame that it blocks 50% of multiplayer games then
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RTX 50 series + driver 590 + dx12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1daM6oOaQ8
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>>733785620
So now I need to look through all my games and figure out which will or won't work?
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>>733762797
>Bazzite
When will people stop falling for this meme?
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>>733785669
NVIDIA Acid, coming to the mainstream driver with DLSS 5
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>>733785691
Just check on protonDB, but a safe guess is simply this anticheat = won't work.
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>>733785691
for multiplayer games, yes.
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Okay, what distro should I choose? I have Ubuntu on my NAS to watch TV and play lower spec games.

I'm on W11. I think I'd just like it to look nicer, and be clean, or something.
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>>733785758
It works fine, stop crying,
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>>733784372
Compiling doesnt take that long on modern hardware aside from things like a browser which have binary packages and Portage can be configured to use only a small part of your CPU so you can just keep playing vidya while its compiling.
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>>733774192
>gentoo
>people doing work
kek
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>>733785835
Just use winhance and disable the annoying shit
Installing linux for ricing is the stupidest fucking shit you can do
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>>733785835
Fedora KDE is the cleanest like for like Windows replacement.
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>>733783142
>and they focus a lot on not breaking the thing, I mean they got this working even with systemd-boot, which I thought couldn't be done)
At work we have a bunch of embeded systems running Debian. I wanted to achieve exactly this so fucking much, but never figured out how to do it seamlessly. Spent weeks researching this topic.
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>>733783756
>and steam machines originally were ubuntu based.
No, they were Debian based. I don't know if they were based on Sid or Stable, though.
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>>733779185
after moot got dicked by *pstein he created /pol/ and sold 4chan out to the j*ws who then hired indian bot farms to flood this place with low quality posts
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>>733785835
Ubuntu or Mint. I've distrohopped a lot, more than anyone here and anything else is a genuine meme. Stay away from rolling distros, even the developers behind them admit things crash and stop working because of the rolling nature - even though the users here don't seem to agree with the developers. So yeah, Ubuntu or Mint. For me it's Ubuntu 25.10.
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For all the curious newbies, just get CachyOS. Yes it's Arch, Arch let's you fuck up everything. But you get one of the best English wikis ever and CachyOS really tries to get your hardware setup right.

Also choose Btrfs as the filesystem and install timeshift. If you don't know shit at all, type paru timeshift into the terminal and then probably option number 1, that's all.

With timeshift you can snapshot your system folder, so if you fuck up you can roll back a day or two. Just setup the interval like you want to. Don't include /home, if include it and roll back your files between the snapshot and now are gone.

If you fuck up completely and the system doesn't start the graphical interface anymore, you still can roll back, just google timeshift Linux command line.

I killed my system a hundred times over the last ten years and it's always an easy fix.
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>>733787041
Newbies don't want to use wikis, and most experienced linux users don't want to either.
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Do I try Bazzitte then? Or PopOS? I like Ubuntu, but dislike how it looks
>>733782524
>>733781640
Uh, doe sit break at a certain point or something? I installed it after seeing this thread and it just works, I didn't have to change anything.
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>>733787107
And newbies don't want to download an .exe and klick on it. They want an AppStore. Fuck them. Learn stuff.
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>>733786365
your limine? being able to roll back any update by just rebooting solves arch
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>>733787134
>but dislike how it looks
So just fix that? If you can't do the most basic of things distrohopping isn't going to do it.
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>>733787134
PopOS uses Cosmic which is nice but I've had some issues and went back to Ubuntu. If you really dislike GNOME then i'd go for maybe Kubuntu?
>>733787253
Well, a newbie would probably prefer not being in a position, to begin with, where they have to roll back an update. Which happens more on rolling distros... aka arch.
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>>733787320
Oh, you can use Cosmic >>733787323 on Ubuntu. I'll try that. Thanks, fellars!
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>>733787572
Erh, no you cannot use cosmic on Ubuntu. You can in theory since it's Linux but there's no officially supported flavour of Ubuntu that ships with cosmic as far as I'm aware. Fedora has a cosmic version though.

https://ubuntu.com/desktop/flavors
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>>733785506
Basically anything anticheat gets fucked.
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every Linux thread is like "Cookies and Cream is my favourite Fuxor distro"
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>>733787785
Depends on the game. I've run games that use game guard and EAC on CachyOS with no problems. Been running it for 3 months right now with few problems (and most problems are just finding alternative apps for things like Adobe)
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>>733787840
I'm more of a rocky road gamer
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>>733787979
Kernel level anticheat is usually what breaks it unless the devs do some magic I don't care to learn about. For example I know wizardry variants didn't work when I tried, and that shit runs on phones.
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A Debian terminal is literally all you need.
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>>733787134
Mint is just green Ubuntu. If you like how Ubuntu just works for you then might not be a good idea to jump to other different distros right now... You probably don't like gnome that's fair.
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>>733781678
Very accurate. I was using Ubuntu in 1st year in college from a freeboot disk and loved it. Only using windows for my retro game library, really
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>>733785625
nta but it depends on game, it's not like linux can't run anticheats, it's just that some devs disable them on linux
for example
>nightreign/elden ring and fantasy life i: EAC
they work fine on linux, but then you also get shit like
>fortnite and apex: EAC
and the devs made it so you can't run them lol
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>>733787779
https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2025/12/install-cosmic-desktop-ubuntu-24-04-ppa

Oh I saw this
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>>733788643
bruteforcing it onto a fixed release distro isn't going to work well
those distros are made with specific foundations in mind and desktop environments aren't supposed to be modular and swappable there
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>>733788616
why windows then?
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>>733788621
I get Tim Sweeney doesnt want it on Fortnite solely because of his inferiority complex over Gabe Newell but the other companies make no sense, they claim its because most cheaters are on Linux but from a pure statistical standpoint most people play on Windows so thats where the majority of the cheaters have to be.
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>>733785669
Wow, it almost makes Milds look like Monster Hunter.
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>>733785323
>Why Bazzite though, OP?
Good for starters and people who are afraid to break something. Its system files are read-only. Its package system is gay as fuck, though.
>I like Ubuntu, but it seems ugly as sin.
Ubuntu is old. Many popular programs, such as Solaar, simply don't work on it, or require tons of crutches.
Fedora/Arch-based distros are where it's at.
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>>733789405
I've never heard of Solaar
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>install any linux distro or windows edition
>everything just works
Are these just bait threads, or is nu-4chan tech-illiterate? I keep seeing these threads daily here and on /g/. I’ve always used Nvidia on all my machines, yet I haven’t seen it cause a single issue.
Is this correct spelling?
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>>733789454
wtf you need this dogshit software ofr logitech hardware?
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I tried a live USB boost of Bazzite on my x220 back in October, but never tried installing it because it wasn't reliable.
Gonna try CachyOS instead, I just need it to get a general purpose browsing and media laptop off of Windows 10.
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>>733786225
I don't know how much a snapper rollback setup gets in the way there (I know that for instance Archinstall/CachyOS do this a bit differently but nothing is broken, just highly verbose when updating) but I doubt it's as bad as getting that thing to work in Fedora. I've tried time and time again on F43 and it's a fucking mess of a setup. You essentially have to install snapper without using its rollback function, instead you have to use btrfs assistant and it'll throw a bunch of errors on you. There's like 7 guides and it's all different, some people tell you to follow the older guides but then you can't because they changed the installer and no longer can you set up subvolumes the same way on the partitioning process, there's some fuckery with dnf5 as well... it's dogshit.
And the excuse Fedora gives for not implementing something like this yet? "Takes too much space". Yeah just forget about settings. No we can't ship a sensible default configuration for automatic snapshots, really? God I hate these people.
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>>733787041
>Also choose Btrfs as the filesystem and install timeshift.
Redundant, using limine and btrfs sets up snapshots in a better way.
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>>733762797
I somehow bricked the whole system by auto-installing some updates. Why is Linux still so fucking shit and Bazzite in particular?
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what linux distro should i use if im a unemployed argentinian NEET incel?
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>>733789751
gentoo
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>>733762797
>half
Did you turn on steam play/compatibility?
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>>733762797
>he fell for the Linux propaganda
What's next? Gonna join some cult that'll harvest your organs?
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>>733770854
gay
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>>733787323
>Well, a newbie would probably prefer not being in a position, to begin with, where they have to roll back an update. Which happens more on rolling distros... aka arch.
it happens far more often when experimenting than when using arch the normal way. Updates tend to break maybe once a year if a manual intervention is needed for some set of hardware or some specific package. The reason why rolling back would be needed frequently is because people keep installing a lot of dogshit from the AUR and making a bit of a mess there they want to revert back from because removing the 32 packages that got installed with that one you just grabbed and you don't want anymore is a bit of a pain in the ass.
The tradeoff for not having to worry about updates is that you just don't get up to date software or have to rely too much on other methods of distribution like flatpak/appimages, because relying on third party repositories to get up to date shit is not much more reliable than say, using a fucking rolling release distro, and you're prone to have update problems at some point the same way if not worse in some cases because of general syncing issues between "what you have in the official repo" and "what NautilusXxX6969 is providing you with".
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>>733789848
What's the alternative? Windows is imploding due to AI jeetcode and MacOS is lol
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>>733789229
big same, at least the games I play work fine, better than on windows tbqdesu, I hope more gamers make the switch so devs will have to swallow their pride and just enable stuff
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I just installed Ubuntu on my company laptop. How do I set DNS to our domain controllers? I need Active Directory to log into on-prem apps and servers. Does it support seamless-SSO for Microsoft apps? Any tutorials how to install Cisco Secure Client, Citrix Receiver and Workspace, Netscope, download group policies from AD? What's the recommended PAM-enabled RDP client here? I need it for Senhasegura connections.
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>>733790157
There is no alternative, take the Linux pill. Windows is in a near constant state of "LMAO OUR NEWEST UPDATE BROKE A BUNCH OF SHIT/EATS 20% OF YOUR GAMING PERFORMANCE! STAY TUNED FOR US TO PATCH IT(see: roll it back covertly) AND WE'LL DO IT AGAIN NEXT MONTH" at least in Linux when an update breaks some shit you can just 'sudo downgrade'
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Windows recently broke my NVME, so I switched to Ubuntu. It's alright. Shit just werks, or it doesn't, and Google Gemini fixes it otherwise.
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>>733784024
>open source shit breaks
>uhm, it's actually somebody else's fault
>real software breaks
>issue gets resolved, because it's made by professionals
Reminds me of using weird Firefox forks and the furries running them explaining how it's not their fault that half the websites aren't working and if I have an issue I should just take it up with the people running those sites.
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>>733789595
I'm not interested in using snapper, however. I wnat to use btrfs directly becuse the native tools already do all the work anyway. I have a bunch of self made scripts that create snapshots and revert them. What I wanted to do is work with systemd-boot and have it find the snapshots, allowing me merely choose them. I also have other requirements but at least this one would make me very happy.
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>>733789454
>>733789506
Official Logitech software doesn't work on Linux (despite users begging for it for 10+ years), and Solaar is the analog. Otherwise, say goodbye to custom keybindings.
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>>733787979
The issue with the Linux version of EAC is that it doesn't really do anything. Which leads to situations where Linux is 2% of your user base, but 40% of cheaters.
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>>733790536
Idk, I guess I'm more charitable to the nameless guys making weekly updates for free as in freedom and beer than I am to the trillion dollar corporation who wants you to pay for the privilege of being buttfucked
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You shouldn't be asking linux what it can do for you, you should be asking yourself what YOU can do FOR linux. You don't NEED to run that software/hardware you like using, you should run instead what linux wants you to use. Put down your head, suck it up, cope, and use what you have to for linux, you are used to it in life, might as well be a bitch to your computer too.
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>>733790271
>installing linux on company laptop
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>>733790669
>Which leads to situations where Linux is 2% of your user base, but 40% of cheaters.
name one example of this
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>>733779140
what did he say, like common shit or "advanced" hate?
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>>733785835
>Okay, what distro should I choose?
The first thing you need to understand is that people want you on Linux in order to hurt Microsoft. Not because they think it's better.
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>>733789751
>argentino
ANON YOU ARE NO INCEL, YOU ARE A VIRGO
YOU WILL STOP BRINGING TRANSEXUAL TRANSYLVANIAN PSYOPS INTO MY COUNTRY
INSTALL FEDORA OR DEBIAN IF YOUR MACHINE IS OLD, AND WHEN YOUR ASS IS WELL LUBED WITH COMMANDLINE KNOWLEDGE YOU WILL INSTALL ARCH MANUALLY LIKE A MAN
DISSAPEAR SCUMBAG
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>>733790812
I want to hurt Microsoft too.
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>>733790629
Don't quote me on this, but I think pikaOS has some steps that can be followed with debian to get that sort of thing done.
However, I think it might need some extra setup for stuff like read-only bootable snapshots, and I don't actually know if btrfs snapper will allow you to roll back properly (I know that from what I tested, snapper rollback does not work, and if any sort of rollback doesn't either, then the only reason to have bootable snapshots is to be able to access a working system to back shit up before reinstalling).
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>>733762797
Why did they name an operating system after that Concord character?
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>>733790669
This is just the lie devs use.
Apex big cheating scandal was a windows cheat being shown to the world during a fucking tournament. From this, Respawn and EA went "See, see! It's the Linux guys!!" And quickly cut out Linux users.
Fun fact: Apex to this day still has a cheater problem despite all the Linux "cheaters" being forceably removed
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>>733763906
Omarchy
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>>733762797
Did you set your games to play through Proton on steam? If a game doesn't have a native linux version, it obviously won't run without a compatibility layer.
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>>733790949
>>733790629
Nevermind, that's with grub.
The systemd-boot thing on openSuSE is a bit of a hack though. Apparently while they got it working it's basically not supposed to be the thing they want to use from now on (from their switch to grub2-bls by default I assume).
One thing I really dislike about both systemd-boot and grub2-bls there instead of the older grub bootloader is, it doesn't have a snapshot submenu. It just displays them all there, you boot up and it's just a fucking wall of snapshots with your system entry on top.
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>>733780886
Desktop shortcuts are tradition
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>>733785835
Nobara/CachyOS. Don't listen to people demanding you take full-on plunge into Arch or mess around with outdated Debian shit.
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>>733791294
Seconding cachy and also adding Endeavor.
Arch con GUI is kino.
t. Installed Arch Vanilla style the hard way but I wouldn't want someone like my mom having to muscle through that process
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>>733791193
desktop icons are bloat.
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>>733791115
grub2 is fine, too. I wanted systemd-boot because it seems to be much simpler to use and manage, but oh well.
There is one other big problem that openSUSE solved and no one else seems to - read AND write support for btrfs with grub2. Right now I have /boot in a btrfs partition so I can snapshot it, too. Makes it easy to back it up to our servers and revert it back if something goes wrong. Grub2 has read support, but it cannot write anything. So let's say I run a command to boot an entry after next boot by running "grub-reboot 3", for example. This edits the .grubenv file over at /boot/grub to boot the fourth entry in the menu. the problem is that file will never revert back to booting the default grub option because grub itself can't change the .grubenv file. Therefore I am now stuck booting the fourth entry every time until I somehow manage to revert it back, manually.
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>>733791458
>tfw installed Arch with SystemD because it was the default in the installer and Grub had that ugly purple startscreen
>people argue about all kinds of arcane shit between the two that I'm far too stupid to understand
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>>733791383
Cachy and Nobara are largely plug-and-play distros that come with almost everything pre-installed and set up, hence the recommendation. Endeavor is okay, but needs a bit of finetuning to run smoothly.
Not sure why everyone recommends Mint to newbies. It hasn't been relevant for years and you won't get much use out of it if you have a good PC. If you're a dude with a toaster who just wants to browse, then yeah.
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>>733791552
I strongly deslike grub because of its complexity, but still nothing comes close to it in the number of features.
We need the "Wayland of bootloaders" to arise.
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>>733791415
Desktop env as whole is waste of resources, just use terminal as god intended.
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>>733790271
Dude the IT guy WILL skin you alive
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>>733791562
>Not sure why everyone recommends Mint to newbies.
Because its programs are completely stable. If you're jumping ship from Windows, you're going to want to land on solid ground.
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>>733791562
Mint gets recommended because at its introduction it was easy to install and it looked approachable, kind of like how Pop has its moment in the sun and now Bazzite is the "easy" (see: sort of 'just works' but only for the most basic shit) distro.
Idk, I've seen enough 'easy' distro that have the weird fucking quirks that I'm scared of them.
Manjaro claims to be "just arch" but every single time I see someone troubleshooting an "arch" problem it turns out it's strictly a manjaro problem that doesn't affect arch in any way shape or form
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>>733762797
What fucking library do you have where half of it doesn't work?
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>>733766896
More like poop_os!. How's Cosmic?
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>>733791695
Problem is there is a big incompatibility with a "stable" system and having the latest GPU drivers. If you go the Mint route you'll get outdated drivers, If you want to install new drivers you need to delve in ppa's. This, for me, is worse than just installing CachyOS. At least with Arch-based distros you don't need to deal with AUR too much. but even if you do CachyOS makes it trivial to install new packages anyway.
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>>733791718
Zorin OS is trying to be the new Mint
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>>733791775
>38% of your games just work
uh
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>>733791791
My buddy fucking hates it and it didn't migrate his popshop apps properly to the cosmic shop, so he moved back to KDE.
That said he's a total retard who somehow didn't notice the insane screentearing he was getting on X11 with an AMD GPU of all things
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>>733791654
>>733790776
No trolling please. Can I at least connect to PXE to download and run company-compliant Windows image?
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>>733792040
You're going to die. And that's if you're lucky.
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>>733791695
If the solid ground is "this feature doesn't work because the display server being used isn't capable of making it work" then it's worthless.
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>>733791718
Bazzite is idiot-proof, that's pretty much its only advantage.
PopOS is okay, but Cosmic sucks donkey dick.
>Idk, I've seen enough 'easy' distro that have the weird fucking quirks that I'm scared of them.
In the end, a person chooses a distro the quirks of which he can live with. It's better to tinker and mess around in terminal for some minor glitch instead of having Windows' jeetcode shit itself six times a week and having a retarded AI peeking over your shoulder all the time.
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>>733762797
>install mint
>install steam
>click a single checkbox enabling steam compatibility stuff
>everything works
I don't know how the fuck everyone keeps fucking things up. It's THAT easy.
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I want to play Fortnite, otherwise I'd swap.
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>>733792040
hope you are the one that's trolling
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>>733789751
Huayra
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>>733792126
Yeah that's fair, still I prefer arch where if some shit goes wrong there's an entire section of fixes on a wiki vs a bunch of smug Ubuntu cunts going "well gee it works on my machine so that sounds like a you problem!" or some new shit like Pop/Mint having 0 formal community or support
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>>733790271
I think /g/ is a better place to ask for this anon.
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>>733791875
80 percent learn to read
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>>733792225
Grok and Claude are also excellent at finding advice for fixing lots of issues, I've noticed.
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>>733781790
SteamOS never broke once
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>>733792382
I've had some beta branch updates lock up and force me to restore from a backup, but yeah Valve has been pretty good
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>>733792281
Who gets a PC for "playable" hahaha
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>>733762797
In all seriousness, I wonder how many layers of proxies MICROSOFT has from themselves to the people who make these threads. They are obviously started by viral marketing companies. Can you imagine what would happen if there was a hack or leak that showed that these super racist and transphobic threads were started by Microsoft? That would be HILARIOUS.


Not that I care, OP is a faggot, but if the normies ever found out Microsoft stocks would tank hahaha.


We should really try to figure out who is starting these threads.
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>>733782362
Cuz it's still an issue on lots of crap which doesn't use portals. Not even a gnome issue, it's a software issue. For example Foliate which is Adwaita uses KDE file picker on KDE because it's made by people who are competent... Much software is not made like this.
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>>733792276
This thread about linux distros on a fucking video game board as more posts than entirety of /g/ combined.

>>733792090
Nah, half of the company is sharing passwords and personal information in simulated phishing attempts. A single laptop with Linux is the least of our problems.
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>>733792752
>the least of OUR problems
IT and management don't consider you in the WE or OUR team. I fully support the Linux world order, but you should move back for the sake of continued employment. Some other nigger is going to fuck something up and you'll end up eating crow because it's easy to blame the maverick going rogue and installing Linux
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>>733792592
>because it's made by people who are competent...
you mean gtk devs?
this shit is handled automatically by gtk4.
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The main thing I miss from Windows is Paint.NET. Krita is an ass of a substitute.
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>>733792883
A month ago our company announced that they'll be firing 700 employees globally, 150 only in Denmark, the rest in remote locations. Tomorrow we will know who will be fired. Winners were decided beforehand during the 3 week period.
Seriously, 1 laptop with Linux when I have 3 other leased laptops is nothing and at this point I don't care.
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>>733792578
>We should really try to figure out who is starting these threads.
Well, there just happens to be a certain bunch of people with a total disdain for hygiene and slavish devotion to corporate hierarchies who'll do anything for money.
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I'm just letting you guys know that I have asked AI to tell me what distro to use, and I'll keep you updated.
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>>733793213
I asked Gemini, GPT, and Grok.
All recommended Fedora as the top choice
Curious what you'll get recommended
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>>733793118
why do you have FOUR fucking company laptops
for what purpose?
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>>733793213
>Nobara
Fedora - For the Pro Gamer
>CachyOS
Arch - Maaximum FPS & Speed
>PopOS
Ubuntu - Modern & interesting, the first new desktop in a decade.
>Bazzite
Fedora - Turn your PC into a Steam Deck

I specifically told it not to recommend Ubuntu, Mint or Arch.
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>>733793395
thanks anon for feeding us your aislop.
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>>733793308
Company is required to provide us with a new laptop every 2 years. Also those fucking thinkpads break surprisingly fast in office environment.
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True niggas use Debian Sid. It's rolling just like Arch.
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>>733793395
But Ubuntu is the best
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>>733792454
Verified just means that it's confirmed to be running on steam deck out of the box.
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>>733793507
>black rose
>aislop
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>>733793046
If you say so. I have seen plenty of stuff that's busted, but I haven't checked if it's GTK4.
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Now I must decide.

PopOS or Nobara.

Do I want cool & new, or old and reliable?
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>>733793670
.hack os when
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>>733793670
Ubuntu
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>>733793713
That's for my TV ONLY!
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>>733781924
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>>733793743
If it's good enough for your TV it's good enough for you.
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>>733770854
Why does everyone like that icon pack? It's ugly as sin
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>installed new gpu (9060 xt 16gb)
>can't change fan curve
Why



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