>SIE's new president Nishino, feels a strong sense of crisis about the decline of the PlayStation brand in Japan, this sense of urgency shared by Nishino and the Japanese team helped push forward the Japan-focused measures.Why isn't PS5 popular in Japan?
Hermann Hulst made Killzone and got mocked for failing to be a "Halo killer", he then swore to destroy the gaming industry from the inside - first by tricking everyone that Metaverses are a thing, then saying Live Service is the next big thing.then saying AI will generate vidya soon so we don't need studios.
Jim Ryan made sure japan hates playstation
>>733765039sony lost japan for a while now, there's no coming back for them. that fucking "X" and "O" switching was the last straw.
>>733765132Killzone was so good and the designs were so cool. I support him, he should destroy Sony first, then Nintendo, so everyone can become part of the PC master race.
>>733765039Fortnite and Roblox aren't big in Japan. That's what's driving PS5 sales currently.
>>733765039I mean don't they censor anything not gay as fuck? like last I checked they were censoring straight fan service in exchange for letting some crackhead fuck abby up his man pussy
>>733765039>Why isn't PS5 popular in Japan?GEE MAYBE KILLING THE JAPAN STUDIOS AND THEN DOING JACK AND SHIT TO APPEAL TO JAPAN DOESN'T GET THE JAPANESE VERY EAGER ANYMOREWell, that, and Japan shifting hard towards PC and handheld gaming. And that fucking Portal thing simply not being of any distinct value since you still need a PS5 in the first place.
>>733765390>Japan shifting hard towards PC and handheld gamingyou spelled mobile and gacha wrong
>>733765039Aside from literally firing Japan Studios and running the company from America, this was the first one with American Confirm/Cancel. That immediately sent a clear message that Japan isn't important to Playstation.
>>733765039Sony flat out dissolved their own internal development studios. Its basically late 360 pre launch Xbone tier at this point.Damn shame there is nobody to punish this cockyness
Roblox
don't knowdon't care
>>733765474>PS5 has all the gacha games>still not popular in japan
>>733765786Because those gachas are also on phone which is where the japanese play the most
>>733765786because the Japanese play on trains, PS5 can't be played in a train
Didn't they spit in the face of their Japanese fan base in the lead-up, release, and following month after? Yeah, no games, and pissing people off does that.They are now dealing with a Nintendo that is unrestricted and does not need the third parties to survive (third parties need Nintendo).
what game from Sony's IP vault that could win back japan?
>>733766216Ape Escape
>>733765659Was the correct move. They're failing for other reasons
>>733765689>RobloxSeriously fuck that shit
>>733765039He has better hair and looks more human than Furukawa so that's a plus in my book.
>>733765039cause they censored tifa and japanese games in general. japs dont want to play censored games by jap slaves
>>733766102A unrestricted Nintendo who cant avoid its "2nd console curse", or make anything that doesnt look like a early 00s game, or allow gachas in their systems because they fear they would predate their own software salesI expect theyll drop the Switch 2 early and go full Wii with retarded motion gimmicks for their next console
>>733766325it's not my cup of tea, but I kinda understand why kids love it.It's essentially their generation's Battle.net with playing custom maps and chatroom socializing.
>>733766396The most popular Roblox game and hence game in the world is literal brain rot that includes zero gameplay
>>733766418anon, the #1 game in Battle.net was fucking DoTA
>>733766386"The Switch 2 will fail any day now. It will crash and burn. That Wii U prediction never happened. No one ever said that it would not outsell it."
The amount of hard-core gamers in Japan has diminished since the 90s but there's around 10 million of them consistently buying since the PS3, PS5 could outsell PS4 and PS6 will most likely forgo a major power increase for portability that will greatly appeal to the Japanese market
>>733766496Nintendo games/hardware are shittier and lazier than ever, but sure enjoy your slop
>>733765039Have they tried actually making games?
>>733765474PC is bigger than PS in Japan and has been for years
>>733765039Isn't the only IP that is still alive to this day from the PS1 era, Gran Turismo?
>>733766580of course
>>733765039>Why isn't PS5 popular in Japan?You know why.
>>733766261apegirls gacha will be a smash hit just like the horse one
>>733765039Hmmm, maybe they should make the games uglier and less appealing? I'm sure that'll do the trick this time.
>>733766580PlayStation studios games on PS5:Astro's PlayroomDemon's SoulsMarvel's Spider-Man Miles MoralesMarvel's Spider-Man 2ReturnalRatchet and Clank: Rift ApartHorizon Forbidden WestHorizon Call of the MountainLEGO HorizonConcordStellar BladeThe Last of Us Part IGod of War Ragnarok God of War Sons of SpartaDeath Stranding 2Astro BotHelldivers 2Ghost of YoteiSackboy A Big AdventureSeems a big list to me
They could try making this exclusive to their console (doubt it will happen; SE would have to be insanely stupid). I doubt that will do anything, though not even DQ will save them. What Sony requires is a stream of Japanese-centric games, no Western nonsense, and a commitment to the Japanese fanbase.
>>733766580>Concord>Marathon>Fairgame$>Horizon: Diabetes among us>Intergalactic
It's really not even worth it to try and go after the Japanese market, it's a shrinking market and sony already has full third-party Japanese support and tendies don't buy third-party games and Japanese publishers will learn their lesson again just like every Nintendo console.
It's amazing how hard Sony dropped the ball when the switch 1 sold 35 million systems in japan, breaking records left and right. PS5 will be lucky to hit 8 million now
>>733765345>>733766342basically.Just wack woke shit like Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet. Horizon. Spiderman 2. God of War. Ghost of Yotei.No wonder no on wants it.
>>733768412What's woke about Yotei?
>>733768452https://imgbox.com/g/LrSppdFJfa
just make games with sexy girls in it againthe Japanese are not very hard to pleaseneither am I
>>733765039Japanese devs are literally stuck in the PS3 era. They can't seem to innovate anymore. All they do is the same old movie games. When the trend turned into online multiplayer, they have nothing and when they tried to chase the trend they failed miserably.
>>733766548seethe harder snoygger
>>733765039>Why isn't PS5 popular in Japan?No games. Memes aside, Sony just outright refuses to actually build their supposed brand with a strong roster of staple IPs. Remember that nonsense where these idiots bitched about not having any IP at the same time Astrobot was gluttonously indulging in the Playstation's history? Yeah. Even their shareholders are like "Hey, maybe you guys should make some fucking video games.".
>>733767143
No RPG’s
>>733770816Ah yes, being actively malicious to the people who actually make your products. A brilliant strategy!
>>733766997Holy mother of GRIM
>>733765039What sony games used to be popular in Japan? I only know that No Heroes Allowed and Popolocrois have kinda a cult following but thats it. LBP? They don't have anything like Pokemon or Mario.
>>733765039White cunts ruined everything again, hopefully the Japs can get them back on track
>>733770816This right here is why these companies are failing, they are purely relying on metrics instead of JUST MAKING FUCKING GAMES PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANNA PLAY
>>733765039simple reason that japs have like 3 hours of free time a day so they can only play games whilst commuting
>>73376699719 games isn't a lot for 5 years
>>733765039Japanese are too poor to buy a console or a pc.
>>733765039Westernisation and assassination of SIEJ during PS3 era.
>>733773730Sony made a special Japanese only PS5 at the same price as Switch 2. The result?Switch 2: 219.824 unitsPS5: 34.598 units
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>>733765474>hurrrrr Japan only cares about mobile hardwarethis is the biggest gaslight that gaijins made themselves to cope with the reality that Playstation in itself isn't interesting anymore, especially as Nintendo has gotten nearly all the third-parties.But at the same time, the big third-party screwed themselves with the GRAPHIC FIDELITY crap that Playstation pushed around a lot as games take much longer to develop. For instance, Square-Enix still hasn't shown a peep of DQXII despite it's been nearly 10 years since DQXI came out. You can't expect the interest of consumers to go on forever as if people were immortal or something.
>>733775275If I bought a new console, I want the hardware to be pushed to it's limit. I don't understand people who don't want better graphics.
>>733775275>especially as Nintendo has gotten nearly all the third-parties.wat?
>>733766458while your joke was funny, you proved his point.
>>733775340We already reached a plateau in terms of graphics, with greatly diminishing returns as of now, and I'd argue many modern games relying on graphic fidelity look uglier on the uncanny side compared to old titles from the PS3 era. Like how older Resident Evil titles had prettier females while women have the face of pancake in the RE Engine. But this is also a problem of artistic direction, since both Kunitsugami and Monster Hunter Rise don't have ugly-looking characters despite using the same RE Engine. Likewise, you get the shit from Yakuza Kiwami 3 looking far worse than the OG game on PS3, despite the PS3 hardware is technically "weaker" by now. >>733775341The Switch ecosystem has like 90%~95% of the Japanese third-parties by now and a larger amount of indies, despite those kinds of things were more of a Playstation thing in the past.
>>733765039Is he why recent SoP have had tons of cool Japanese game announcements? If so he’s doing his job right. Japanese games are what makes libraries exciting and the Western focus Sony has now is boring as shit
>>733765189Jim Ryan made sure everyone except normalfags hate PlayStation
>>733765132>>733765189>helped nintendo to get more popular to the point kids don't even know what is a playstation anymorebased guys.
>>733776032the main and biggest userbase playstation have since like 20 or so years ago is the normalfag one so he wasn't wrong to focusing mainly on it.
>>733767109They already tried that.Yakuza series was Sony-exclusive because Sony kept bribing Nagoshi, so much he even sabotaged Sega's revivals of Sakura Taisen, Puyo Puyo, and ended the Mario & Sonic series by insisting on a multiplatform release. He was very publicly telling players to buy a PS4.Persona 5 was Sony-exclusive for years and insiders alluded to some "agreements" preventing a multiplatform version. Ads were begging Japanese players to buy a PS4.Monster Hunter 5 was payrolled by Sony as something that should never see release on Nintendo platforms, with the plan being a heavy move to AAA graphics away from the existing Japan-centric DNA of the series, and that Nintendo only gets the Portable version. Capcom's directors saw the writing on the wall and panicked they were killing their series, so they dropped the series numbering and threw more ressources into the "spinoff".Final Fantasy series is irrelevant now because Square Enix didn't have the same self-awareness, Luminous Studios is no more after the Sony+West+DEI killer combo, so they're scrambling now for multiplatform releases and settling for less. Even DQ12 might have been a similar disaster that was caught before release, since the series doesn't have much besides its identity and everything to lose in Japan.Dragon Quest XI PS4 (and its delayed Switch release) in the first place was part of that big bankrolling by Sony to gain back ground in Japan. Square was too scared to commit to it fully so it had a 3DS version at launch and the existence of a Switch version was confirmed before the console's name reveal.Well in the end PS4 sales in Japan are comparable to the Wii U and that's on a good day, and it has been worse with the PS5.Sony Japan also announced a lot of Japan-centric projects around 2015, all of them cancelled unceremoniously, their Twitter accounts for Ape Escape for example were more effective at scaring away nips than promoting anything Sony.
>>733765132>then saying AI will generate vidya soon so we don't need studios.>Sony patented the idea of AI beating games for youSo the future of gaming according to Hulst is watching AI play AI generated slop?
>>733767109>>733776392Even as early as the 2010, Sony Japan was very conscious of the PC danger and did their absolute best to corral nip developers into restricting their ability to put out games for PC for Japanese audiences.That Microsoft/Activision vs "Sony fans" lawsuit revealed among many things that Sony was paying for total exclusivity or language exclusivity in Japan for stuff like Yakuza or Sega games in general.So Japanese players get "product not available in your country" when trying to buy the Steam versions, or find that Japanese language options are internally there and fully functional (with mods that simply reactivate the existing files) but were purposefully disabled by the publisher, sometimes after release, and it always turns out it's a Sony exclusive.They get Japanese indies too by having them sign away their rights to release on PC at all, or at launch, in exchange for "promotion on the Play Store" (which is a joke, they left the Vita and PS3 ones to rot for example unless you look up the exact game name)That's how it was a big deal when Namco eventually put up a video telling Japanese Elden Ring fans "what Steam is" and "how to use it".Either fanboyism or corporate ties or bankrolling won't save Sony in Japan at this point, they didn't earn their position in Japan in the PS1 gen with half measures but with a wide strategy targeting a wide net of audiences and game genres and lots of games that would be considered indies even by their standards. They took measured risks with smaller developers, risks that the western management Sony answers to would never take, and they had a unique appeal for the third party business model that's no longer unique nowadays (if anything it's Steam that's the more attractive storefront for new developers).
>>733775275Can't wait for the PS handheld to come out and bomb in Japan just like Vita did.We'll finally be able to move on from this lie
>>733778626Japan was the only market where the Vita saw any traction. It sold as well as the Sega Saturn there.
Have they tried making Japanese-centric games? Actually making games at all?
>>733778818Because it had some games Japanese people were interested in. It had nothing to do with it being a handheld.Wii U sold just as well in Japan as Vita
>>733779375>Because it had some games Japanese people were interested in. It had nothing to do with it being a handheld.The contemporaneous 3DS also sold very well. It outsold the PS2 there.>Wii U sold just as well in Japan as VitaNo, it sold about half as many units.
>>733779510>The contemporaneous 3DS also sold very well. It outsold the PS2 there.Because it had games people wanted to play. It had nothing to do with it being a handheld.>No, it sold about half as many unitsYeah, my bad. I realized to late I was thinking of total sales.Still, Japan amounted for 35% Vitas and 25% Wii Us
>>733765039Sony feeling panic about Japan today is like being worried your son is gonna kill himself at his funeral
>>7337808273DS isn't even close to PS2 in terms of having games people wanted to play.
>>733778818Like the other anon said, the Vita still had a bunch of games that got the Japanese audience interested, not because it was *just* a handheld>Vanillaware games (Dragon Crown, Odin Sphere, Muramasa)>Persona 4 Golden>God Eater (several titles)>Gundam Breaker 1 to 3>Disgaea 3 & 4 Returns and other NIS titles>rhythm games such as Taiko Tatsujin (V version and the Idolmaster spinoffs), Hatsune Miku Project Diva f 1 & 2, IA/VT Colorful>Minecraft (technically the most sold title in Japan on the console)>a dumpster of visual novels (Fate/Stay Night, Chaos;Head, Steins;Gate, Grisaia, Flowers, Memories Off, Utawarerumono, etc.)>Earth Defense Force 2 & 3>Ys 8 (which started as a Vita exclusive btw)>Atelier games>MGS 2 & 3 HD>Final Fantasy X HDNotice how nearly all of them are now on Nintendo with also sequels (Gundam Breaker 4, Girls und Panzer Dream Tank Match DX, Yomawari 3, Ys X Nordics, Atelier Sophie 2, etc.)Again Playstation had a reputation of being the platform if you wanted Japanese third-parties but that went out of the window, and SIE killed Japan Studio so it's not like the platform has anything of note for the audience there.
>>733765039>move offces to burgerland>prioritize burger audience and studios>censor japanese games>close japanese studios>how could this happen with me?
>>733781701closer to Epstein's island
>>733767143The American market of ideas is unmatchable
>>733765315Unironically this.Big sales are in western market, Fortnite, Call of duty, Minecraft lead the way.Japan is just irrilevant now, It is not 1999 anymore
>>733765039>move HQ to California and get an American CEO>chase "modern audiences" exclusively>implement the strictest censorship on the planet and call all the Japanese fans pedophiles>turn bald god of war man into a fucking cuckoldI wonder why Japanese people hate Sony now? It's the great mystery of our time.
Actual sales to consumers in Japan aside, Sony should have invested in building up Japanese (and Asia more broadly) development studios, rather than putting all their investment in expensive as hell Western studios where development costs have skyrocketed during the last decade.
>>733781368>>733781368>Notice how nearly all of them are now on NintendoAll of those games are also on PS5, so what's your point? Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives. All Sony needs is for the PS6 portable to have a competitive price with the Switch 2.
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>>733783390The problem is nobody wants le quirky power of friendship japanese game anymore, like FF or other shit. I hate to admit but the market has changed and the core is the West with its horrible taste.
>>733783441At best it will be equal in price. They'll both have the same games except that Switch 2 will also have Nintendo exclusives, so it'll be entirely redundant..
>>733784294PS6 Portable will play Apex Legends, though.
>>733784430That already has a port to Switch 1 and 2.
>>733781368Pretty much this. A lot of the games that really appealed to Japanese audiences are now readily available on Switch 1/2 alongside popular first party games like Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Pokémon, and Kirby. Without the luxury or exclusively having these games or popular first party IP to back on, it’s harder to sell PlayStation in Japan, and it’s unlikely that a PS handheld will immediately solve their issues unless they specifically invest heavily into new and older IPs specifically meant to heavily appeal to Japan.
>>733783441>All of those games are also on PS5, so what's your point?Because of these main points>Switch 1 & 2 are hybrid consoles so most users get two device types in a single one>Nintendo has first-party games that the Japanese wants to play and keep churning them every single year. SIE currently has virtually nothing>PS5 was heavily scalped in Japan by foreigners due of the weak value of the yen, SIE tried to counter by increasing the price twice of the system (and all the related accessories and PS+ subscriptions) from 50k yen to 85k yen. Switch 2 is 50k yen by comparison. >Digital JP-only PS5 SKU only came out a few months ago and that's likely because the new CEO pressured the whole branch to do something after Jim Ryan and Hulst left their position rotting in the japanese market for nearly 10 yearsSaying that "Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives" is a wrong approach of looking at the situation.
>>733765786Why would anyone play gachaslop in a console? Those are mobile games
>>733783903Either way Sony would have been in better shape if part of the few billion lost to their live service initiative went into building up Eastern studios where each title is a fraction of the costs. One Concord would have funded 8 to 10 Stellar Blades.
>>733766997>PlayStation studios games on PS5:>Astro's PlayroomLiterally tech demo>Demon's SoulsDemake from closed studio >Marvel's Spider-Man Miles MoralesIndustry plant DEI game>Marvel's Spider-Man 2DEI shit>Returnal3D TBOI>Ratchet and Clank: Rift Apartuncslop>Horizon Forbidden WestKek>Horizon Call of the MountainLmao>LEGO HorizonAlso on Switch>ConcordNot trying anymore I guess>Stellar BladeThis one counts>The Last of Us Part IPS3 game>God of War RagnarokWe must be better men>God of War Sons of SpartaLazy cashgrab>Death Stranding 2Kojimboslop>Astro BotOutsold by Touhou party>Helldivers 2Also on steam>Ghost of YoteiSpit on nip face the game>Sackboy A Big AdventureMore uncslopIs that it? No wonder nobody buys a PS5
People are going to insist it's because Japanese people are at work all day and ignore PC gaming
>>733785780>Danganronpa one of the best selling franchises in the PSP/Vita era announced their new game in a Nintendo directReally puts things into perspective
>>733765039Closed most of their game development studios and did nothing to assist the JP industry as the rising cost of game development choked it out. Now it's on phones, on the Switch, or playing low spec western games also on PS4/PC.
>>733766997>19 games>11 on PC
>>733783441>Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives.retard
>>733765132the man who killed sony
>>733787583>>Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives.>retardretard
>>733787583>Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusives.the fuck are you talking about?
>>733787992meant>>733783441
>>733787830what a fantastic comeback kid, wow.
>>733766386So what in the next 4 years?Holy shit it isn't even a year old man.
>>733767143The live service push has done so much fucking damage.
>>733765039>Why isn't PS5 popular in Japan?uncification of video games.
>>733765786They don't call it the oversized smartphone for nothing.
>>733765039Relocating to California tends to do that to your brand.
>>733787992That's still a main Nintendo seriesYou're never gonna see that game on another system you fucking retardHe meant actual third parties, not "Nintendo paid those guys to make a Zelda game"Inb4>You're moving the goalpostYou disingenuous piece of shit
>>733765039because snoy is westoidal garbage with no games
>>733765189based jim ryan
>>733765315nah, fortnite is, or at least it was, big in japanpretty sure it still is relatively big, even though apex has probably long since eclipsed it by now
>>733765689i can't believe that roblox is played by anyone anywhere, let alone asiaguess all kids are all retarded niggers no matter where they're from
>>733765786>all the gacha games>cant even play uma musume
>>733766418>most popular game in the world>anything on slopbloxdon't look at dfo's numbers, retard-kun
>>733766997>demon's souls>playstation studios developed...who's gonna tell him? i'm not reading the rsdt of that retardation
>>733765132he made killzone 2 a fps not like the others that had an amazing online then wet let's change everything take away the weight and then you end at shadow fallshit
>>733783441>Nintendo has no 3rd party exclusivesThey're literally the only one of the big three who still do
>>733775973>playing as a nigger>cool japanese game announcementlol
>>733793228literal who game
>>733766102>(third parties need Nintendo).lol third parties don't give a shit about nintendo, they're all flocking to steam
